**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 23 02:59:58 2009 Sep 23 03:53:34 Hmm bigest problem with image build here is that just after unpacking tar.gz I have few "stalled NFS handles" on fs.. http://pastebin.ca/1576065 Sep 23 03:54:16 that was the reason for vdso segfault.. because /tmp was unaccessible :/ Sep 23 04:02:14 Hi there. Sep 23 04:05:48 Hi Sep 23 04:06:16 Hello JaMa. Sep 23 04:57:29 prahal: Look at the intone wiki page for a less cpu intensive mplayer Sep 23 05:43:50 I always get updating shr-unstable tree Sep 23 05:43:50 HEAD is now at b1b6257 shr-autorev : autorev paroli Sep 23 05:43:50 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly Sep 23 05:44:04 even when repeating it... :-( Sep 23 05:47:32 spaetz: yes... it restarted again. Sep 23 05:52:22 :-( Sep 23 06:00:51 hello,..tried to buils SHR-unstable but misc-vapi_git.bb failed (Requested 'vala-1.0 >= 0.7.6' but version of Vala is 0.7.5-fso2 Sep 23 06:00:51 http://paste.debian.net/47294/ ) ...any tips? do I have to build from scratch? Sep 23 06:04:45 schasch: update your tree Sep 23 06:04:51 http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/vala?h=shr/import Sep 23 06:05:07 there is no 0.7.5 but a 0.7.6 Sep 23 06:05:38 and note that I have problems updating the OE git as it is "hanging up unexpectedly" on my, most of the time Sep 23 06:08:04 good morning Sep 23 06:08:10 is there a worldtimeclock for SHR available? Sep 23 06:09:10 spaetz.thanks... update my tree : do I have to copy the files manuaaly or ist there a bitbake-order (bitbake update/upgrade ??) Sep 23 06:31:47 in directory up from shr-unstable you should just do a "make update", but as I said, most of the time OE git will hang up and that error message is hidden somewhere in the output Sep 23 06:31:53 repeat until success :-( Sep 23 06:32:05 blindcoder: not that I'd know of Sep 23 06:35:33 :( Sep 23 06:37:03 TZ=Asia/Dhaka date Sep 23 06:37:05 :P Sep 23 06:43:10 spaetz:thankx Sep 23 07:30:22 hey hi @all Sep 23 07:45:54 spaetz: http://pallas.crash-override.net/~blindcoder/fltkclock.png Sep 23 07:46:11 currently with hardcoded timezones, but I needed something quick'n'dirty Sep 23 07:47:09 updates every second Sep 23 07:48:06 mrmoku: can you upload libconfig-1.3.1.tar.gz to http://build.shr-project.org/sources/ because it's removed on the projects page Sep 23 07:49:18 mrmoku: please ignore my last findutils commit... Sep 23 07:49:59 JaMa: you can create yourself an patchwork account, to reject your own commits ;) Sep 23 07:50:42 Heinervdm: why is it removed? updated version? Sep 23 07:50:49 mrmoku: yes Sep 23 07:51:00 ah great :) Sep 23 07:51:00 1.3.2 is current stable Sep 23 07:51:27 why not update instead? Sep 23 07:51:47 mrmoku: that's the alternative :) Sep 23 07:52:01 * mrmoku would prefer that alternative :) Sep 23 07:52:01 will try if it compiles Sep 23 07:52:06 good thanks Sep 23 07:53:35 that reciepe has a hardcoded PV in it ;) Sep 23 07:57:21 mrmoku: do we use update-alternatives for -native packages too? Sep 23 07:58:14 mrmoku: findutils-native includes findutils.inc where find is renamed to find.findutils.. the same for xargs.. but version from oe.dev doesn't call update-alternatives Sep 23 07:58:16 i think there we should use virtual Sep 23 07:59:34 Heinervdm: how? Sep 23 07:59:47 don Sep 23 07:59:52 't know :) Sep 23 08:00:07 i've begun to write before your second sentende ;) Sep 23 08:02:02 mrmoku: it builds, patch sent Sep 23 08:07:24 Heinervdm: you mean virtual as using find from system instead of stagged one from bitbake? Sep 23 08:08:06 JaMa: installing only one that provides that feature Sep 23 08:10:57 Heinervdm: but there are alternatives find from findutils and find from busybox.. Sep 23 08:11:16 Heinervdm: you probably don't want to disable whole busybox just because you prefer find from findutils Sep 23 08:11:20 yes for this constallation it dosn't work Sep 23 08:12:38 reporting problem for org.oe.dev also doesn't work :/ http://bugs.openembedded.org/ Sep 23 08:14:11 pkconfig is dumb!!! Sep 23 08:14:53 i hab bluez and bluez4 in my stagging dir and it just finds the one that was compiled last Sep 23 08:47:25 shouldn't we update the upstream version then? Sep 23 08:48:16 ahh, sorry, I was backlogged :) Sep 23 08:48:20 spaetz: update what? findutils, bluez libconfig? Sep 23 08:48:24 findutils Sep 23 08:49:00 i think JaMa is trying to do stl like that Sep 23 09:00:17 Hmm, i sent 3 patches, but only 2 arrived... Sep 23 09:08:57 spaetz: what? I just updated findutils recipe from 4.4 to 4.4.2, but 4.2.29 is still preferred, because 4.4.2 needs newer glibc than our 2.6.1 (at least seem so) Sep 23 09:09:16 spaetz: findutils-native-4.4.2 is ok Sep 23 09:10:15 spaetz: and I'll send patch for org.oe.dev branch too Sep 23 09:14:09 JaMa, good. It would be great to switch away from our import branch soon Sep 23 09:14:20 otherwise we'll always lag behind OE Sep 23 09:14:56 yes, I'm also looking forward for switch.. Sep 23 09:15:21 where to should one send patches for oe.dev? Sep 23 09:15:42 stefan pushed some more yesterday :) Sep 23 09:16:13 Heinervdm: i just added for oe.org.dev branch.. git config --add sendemail.to openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org Sep 23 09:16:14 spaetz: i asked mickeyl to have a look at our python recieps, and he agreed that he will commit them to oe.dev Sep 23 09:16:49 JaMa: but for that i have to subscripe that ML? Sep 23 09:17:22 Heinervdm: I think he already synced them few weeks ago, so only new packages as pisi deps should be different i guess Sep 23 09:17:37 Heinervdm: probably.. otherwise it would need moderator approval.. :/ Sep 23 09:18:02 spaetz: that's a list from 4 days ago of all packages needed for task-shr-feed: http://shr.pastebin.com/m4ba6f771 Sep 23 09:18:18 btw do you know how to setup gmail account to forward mails which were initialy sent by me? Sep 23 09:18:20 JaMa: python packages in that list are missing: http://shr.pastebin.com/m4ba6f771 Sep 23 09:19:13 everytime I send something to some ml.. its not forwarded back and stored in right folder on my 2nd e-mail account, because gmail ignores emails where I'm sender while forwarding :( Sep 23 09:20:42 I don't use gmail Sep 23 09:23:01 JaMa: that is the right ML for commits: Openembedded-commits Sep 23 09:24:51 JaMa: oh no, it just shows the commits Sep 23 09:25:53 Heinervdm: see http://patchwork.openembedded.org/project/openembedded/list/ Sep 23 09:26:37 Heinervdm: yes.. there are patches from openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org Sep 23 09:26:47 ok :) Sep 23 09:27:27 Heinervdm: but there isn't mine.. maybe I'm wrong :) Sep 23 09:27:45 http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/1057/ Sep 23 09:27:50 there is your name Sep 23 09:28:29 Heinervdm: this one is old.. and send from bitbake oe repo Sep 23 09:29:05 JaMa: perhaps there patchwork is slower then ours Sep 23 09:29:07 Heinervdm: ah findutils arrived too Sep 23 09:31:56 Heinervdm: the newer obex one and ommit the first one? Sep 23 09:32:32 * mrmoku` is getting angry with his provider for all those disconnects :( Sep 23 09:32:55 mrmoku`: it's a duplicate Sep 23 09:33:04 ok, so just one of them :P Sep 23 09:33:15 i think both would work ;) Sep 23 09:33:51 nop Sep 23 09:34:02 I tried that... and git complains :) Sep 23 09:35:09 s/would/wouldn't/ Sep 23 09:35:09 Heinervdm meant: i think both wouldn't work ;) Sep 23 09:35:34 ahh Sep 23 09:42:34 Hello all, anybody know where the debug info out of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 goes to when you install it in the phone. I can't see it logged anywhere in /var/log Sep 23 09:53:02 Arigead: to stdout Sep 23 09:53:43 Arigead: so either check consoleoutput when starting it from the console or /tmp/x.log when started via Desktop icon Sep 23 09:58:54 mrmoku: thank you kindly :-) Sep 23 09:59:19 Arigead: np Sep 23 10:21:18 * mrmoku lunch Sep 23 10:45:32 hi, any qi dev here? Sep 23 10:48:03 * raster ate them Sep 23 10:48:29 lol Sep 23 10:51:20 were they tasty :) ? Sep 23 10:59:25 hello to all devs Sep 23 11:07:05 if people are interested in a very very simple worldclock for the freerunner Sep 23 11:07:21 http://pallas.crash-override.net/~blindcoder/fltkclock_13-r0_armv4t.ipk Sep 23 11:07:26 screenshot: http://pallas.crash-override.net/~blindcoder/fltkclock.png Sep 23 11:11:41 hey, it seems that finally my SHR buiild might make it through. This hasn't happened for a long time... Sep 23 11:29:13 raster: red dust? Or aren't you @home? Sep 23 11:30:58 raster: maybe .kr still Sep 23 11:33:06 joerg_42: red dust has mostly blown away now ... Sep 23 11:33:22 aah Sep 23 11:33:41 PaulFertser ping Sep 23 11:35:17 dvarnes: probably raster burped after eating Qi devels. Now he moved out of town so red dust gone XD Sep 23 11:36:11 JaMa: yesterday you said sth about DGA, today libXxf86dga-1.0.99.2 does not compile for me Sep 23 11:37:33 joerg_42: lol Sep 23 11:45:42 Heinervdm: the same said dos yesterday.. but without log i have no idea.. compiles fine here.. show me log.. Sep 23 11:45:58 Heinervdm: is it after upgrading xorg-xserver to rc2? Sep 23 11:47:40 Heinervdm: recompiled fine now Sep 23 11:48:23 JaMa: http://shr.pastebin.com/d796e96c4 Sep 23 11:48:25 * mrmoku too has problems with xf86dga Sep 23 11:48:36 JaMa: i compiled rc2 too Sep 23 11:48:42 yesterday Sep 23 11:48:52 or the day bvefore Sep 23 11:49:54 hmm... my problem seems somewhat more simple :P Sep 23 11:49:56 XF86DGA.c:65:36: error: X11/extensions/xf86dga.h: No such file or directory Sep 23 11:50:08 mrmoku: i'm having the same Sep 23 11:50:36 ahh... yes... but the rest of the log looks different Sep 23 11:51:10 ping larsc Sep 23 11:53:11 Heinervdm: missing depend for xf86dgaproto? Sep 23 11:54:56 mrmoku: no it's there Sep 23 11:55:05 hmm Sep 23 11:56:15 @all: a quick poll: should we get apt for this #chan (so the factoids between #openmoko and this chan are in sync), or should we keep bzzbot (which is a little err... limited functions in comparison to apt. E.g does no logs)? Sep 23 11:56:22 have to go now, birthday of my godchild Sep 23 11:57:16 Heinervdm: try to upgrade xf86dgaproto first Sep 23 11:58:18 ../shr/recipes/xorg-proto/xf86dgaproto_2.0.99.2.bb Sep 23 11:58:59 2.0.99.2 ? Sep 23 11:59:58 yes Sep 23 12:00:43 ok, build Sep 23 12:01:00 both? Sep 23 12:01:07 no :) Sep 23 12:04:23 (apt) darn, didn't expect the topic was *so* controverse Sep 23 12:05:01 DocScrutinizer-8: can't we have both? Sep 23 12:05:03 ok, so is current shr-unstable flashable? I only have an extremly old -testing as backup when things break Sep 23 12:05:21 DocScrutinizer-8: :-) Sep 23 12:05:34 JaMa: now both build Sep 23 12:05:46 mrmoku: rebuild xf86dgaproto Sep 23 12:05:51 Heinervdm: probably yes. But I need to check how they cooperate wrt to ~ and "s/x/y/" Sep 23 12:06:04 Heinervdm: already done :) Sep 23 12:06:26 why should we need 2 bots? Just have one and be done with it Sep 23 12:06:30 ~ping Sep 23 12:06:53 ~botsnack Sep 23 12:06:53 DocScrutinizer-8: aw, gee Sep 23 12:07:02 !botsnack Sep 23 12:07:08 logs are already here: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel/ Sep 23 12:07:20 ~logs Sep 23 12:07:21 well, logs is at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel.txt Sep 23 12:13:20 ~seen mwester Sep 23 12:13:22 mwester was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 9d 18h 28m 46s ago, saying: ':p'. Sep 23 12:13:34 ~mwester Sep 23 12:13:35 rumour has it, mwester is a denizen of "the most corrupt state in the union (FBI, 09 Dec 2008)" Sep 23 12:13:50 mrmoku: ping Sep 23 12:13:58 vegyraupe: pong Sep 23 12:14:14 mrmoku: hey, can you build paroli (and autorv) from a branch ? Sep 23 12:14:24 vegyraupe: sure Sep 23 12:14:54 mrmoku: ok, coz we will do major work in the near future, ie as of today or tomorrow, and that will break a lot of things Sep 23 12:15:00 but I created an shr branch Sep 23 12:15:09 which contians the current code and won't be affected by us Sep 23 12:15:10 vegyraupe: good :) Sep 23 12:15:37 vegyraupe: branch is called shr? Sep 23 12:15:41 development can continue there and we will keep up with it and pick commits that need to be kept Sep 23 12:15:43 yes Sep 23 12:15:47 ok Sep 23 12:16:31 how can i tell bitbake to use the latest cornucopia from git? :/ Sep 23 12:16:51 vegyraupe: btw... what is parolis current version number? Sep 23 12:17:00 might as well fix that if it's wrong Sep 23 12:17:23 mrmoku: heh, I am not sure if we have any Sep 23 12:17:24 agg1n: check conf/distro/include/shr-autorev-unstable.inc Sep 23 12:17:32 which one do you have right now ? Sep 23 12:17:34 PV = "0.2.1+gitr${SRCPV}" Sep 23 12:17:43 heh Sep 23 12:17:44 nice Sep 23 12:17:50 never knew we had a number Sep 23 12:17:50 vegyraupe: will leave it as is then :) Sep 23 12:17:53 heh k Sep 23 12:18:33 anybody knows when mwester will be back again? Sep 23 12:18:51 vegyraupe: thanks for notifying before breaking... usually people break and notify afterwards :P Sep 23 12:19:14 mrmoku: no problem, we care about the distros ;) Sep 23 12:19:26 :) Sep 23 12:19:39 joking aside, no prob, I am happy that paroli runs on shr and that there is a packge Sep 23 12:20:23 mrmoku: should i insert PV=.. there? Sep 23 12:20:38 no Sep 23 12:20:51 agg1n: moment Sep 23 12:21:13 FSOREV_cornucopia = "${AUTOREV}" Sep 23 12:21:27 it is on AUTOREV... apart from fsousaged (which you're interested in) Sep 23 12:21:41 so just set Sep 23 12:21:42 SRCREV_pn-fsousaged = "2497004b66b46b9854c774cd397a4f40c39f3d10" Sep 23 12:21:52 to use ${FSOREV_cornucopia} instead Sep 23 12:22:38 mrmoku: ok, thx, thought that AUTOREV means something "take the newsest" Sep 23 12:22:59 [14:16] agg1n | how can i tell bitbake to use the latest cornucopia from git? :/ Sep 23 12:23:08 isn't that what you wanted? latest == newest? Sep 23 12:23:13 yes :) Sep 23 12:23:16 ok :) Sep 23 12:23:27 agg1n: btw. latest fsousaged was segfaulting Sep 23 12:23:35 so we still have problems to solve :P Sep 23 12:23:57 * spaetz decides to not flash the latest build then :-) Sep 23 12:25:34 * mrmoku thinks spaetz makes good decisions :P Sep 23 12:25:42 spaetz: at least if you depend on it as phone :) Sep 23 12:30:09 well, actually this might be an aspect for me getting more involved in testing, once I have N900 Sep 23 12:31:18 but then otoh I'm not short on potential testing devices right now :-S Sep 23 12:31:21 JaMa: another thing not working for me with xorg is the power button Sep 23 12:31:42 DocScrutinizer-8: when do u get one? Sep 23 12:31:44 mrmoku: do you have it as another input in xorg.conf? Sep 23 12:32:04 raster: next week Sep 23 12:32:09 JaMa: don't remember... just noticed because I wanted to power down to reflash :) Sep 23 12:32:15 mrmoku: i guess it works for me.. but I don't like suspend/resume because of wsod.. so I'm not using it Sep 23 12:32:16 JaMa: will check after reflashing Sep 23 12:32:34 JaMa: suspend/resume worked fine for me Sep 23 12:33:05 * JaMa has now strange neo state.. Sep 23 12:33:19 hard WSOD with every Xorg start.. Sep 23 12:33:50 raster: at least I hope so Sep 23 12:33:51 not easy to debug.. as there is just one try and then remove battery.. Sep 23 12:34:18 but it works good when started from chroot (from non-drm shr kernel) Sep 23 12:34:21 Weiss: ^^^^ Sep 23 12:35:19 DocScrutinizer-8: hope its good and worth the $$ Sep 23 12:36:10 raster: your comments seem to contain a strange kind of pending doom prophecy Sep 23 12:39:09 none intended Sep 23 12:39:15 its an expensive bit of hw Sep 23 12:39:31 and an unknown quantity in that iotsd not out there Sep 23 12:39:41 no "real experience" from others to yay or nay it Sep 23 12:41:09 well, there were real tests on prototypes Sep 23 12:41:55 for me, if it's keeping level of N810, I'm fine with it Sep 23 12:42:51 of course plus the usual phone functions as known for every featurephone since >10 years Sep 23 12:44:12 s/every/every Nokia/ Sep 23 12:44:13 DocScrutinizer-8 meant: of course plus the usual phone functions as known for every Nokia featurephone since >10 years Sep 23 12:44:53 DocScrutinizer-8: you have the N900? Sep 23 12:45:08 admiral0: not yet Sep 23 12:45:22 i want to buy it too Sep 23 12:46:21 of course i want to try it first Sep 23 12:46:35 see what hw does it have Sep 23 12:46:48 I know the hw Sep 23 12:46:59 as from the specs Sep 23 12:47:11 and from N810 Sep 23 12:47:41 what wifi chip does it have? Sep 23 12:47:57 DocScrutinizer-8: well... nokia lost their nxxx devs before release Sep 23 12:47:59 long before Sep 23 12:47:59 and if I really absolutely hate it, I'll simply send it back Sep 23 12:48:13 so it may have issues Sep 23 12:48:20 raster: ouch, didn't know that Sep 23 12:48:23 raster why? Sep 23 12:48:24 and the same ppl dont work on nxxx stuff as do on their phones Sep 23 12:48:37 admiral0: dont u rememebr when nokia bought trolltech? Sep 23 12:48:46 yeah Sep 23 12:48:57 and then a few weeks later almost all of the maemo dev team up and left? Sep 23 12:49:08 it's got a smaller screen than the N800. That's a reason for me not to get it Sep 23 12:49:09 ah, you mean gnome mobile devs went away? Sep 23 12:49:13 or at leats a huge chunk of them - all the gtk/gnome/glib/gwhatever guys Sep 23 12:49:49 i don't mind... imo gtk is far behind qt Sep 23 12:49:59 I have the FR as a reliable phone *cough* *cough*. So I need the Nxxx as a tablet. Sep 23 12:50:08 admiral0: not gtk vas qt Sep 23 12:50:17 its that the apps are gtk based and they lost their devs Sep 23 12:50:25 admiral0: of course all are jsut dwarfed by enlightenment :-) Sep 23 12:50:31 hahahah Sep 23 12:50:59 sorry raster, but qt is catching up with features efl offers Sep 23 12:51:23 admiral0: and? Sep 23 12:51:49 and offers documentation Sep 23 12:51:59 and? Sep 23 12:52:04 so go and use qt. Sep 23 12:52:20 i use qt :P Sep 23 12:53:15 if efl had some things like good documentation it would attract a lot of devs Sep 23 12:53:17 then why "sorry" Sep 23 12:53:30 because i think efl is nice Sep 23 12:53:35 as if i should compete faster for someone not using efl anyway Sep 23 12:53:45 it has docs Sep 23 12:53:50 i tried to use efl raster... Sep 23 12:53:52 i dont have time to add to them or make them better Sep 23 12:54:05 and edbus has no real documentation Sep 23 12:54:12 u are talking a company with dozens of paid devs vs volunteers and some contractors Sep 23 12:54:20 no it doesnt. i didn't write it Sep 23 12:54:38 but i'm not going to go drop everything and go write docs for it for you Sep 23 12:54:59 i know that too Sep 23 12:55:08 and i'm not asking for it Sep 23 12:55:08 if u paid 20 devs for the past "years" that qt has been catching up - efl would have tonnes of docs Sep 23 12:55:22 there isn't anything more/extra/better that i can do Sep 23 12:55:32 so... contribute, or use qt - it is your choice Sep 23 12:57:10 dbus isnt a massively heavily used thing in e land anyway - so its hellishly low on any priority list Sep 23 12:57:10 i tried. but i am not experienced enough to understand from source Sep 23 12:57:31 no need Sep 23 12:57:39 i figured out edbus by reading examples Sep 23 12:57:44 i didnt write it Sep 23 12:57:55 no docs Sep 23 12:57:55 raster, you are you :P Sep 23 13:01:45 remember - e's primary open source goal is a window manager, not a generic app dev toolkit. Sep 23 13:02:10 in that you are doing great Sep 23 13:02:12 ;) Sep 23 13:02:17 priority is that, thus docs etc. is different to trolls Sep 23 13:02:28 thus things get done differently Sep 23 13:02:36 docs are much lower priority Sep 23 13:19:57 ~logs Sep 23 13:19:57 rumour has it, logs is at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel.txt Sep 23 13:20:33 [15:11] mrmoku | agg1n: ping Sep 23 13:20:33 [15:12] mrmoku | agg1n: ** Message: plugin.vala:375: register_resource called with parameters: :1.62 Bluetooth /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth Sep 23 13:20:36 [15:12] mrmoku | is what fsousaged gives me now Sep 23 13:20:39 [15:12] mrmoku | after that boom Sep 23 13:20:41 [15:16] mrmoku | ptitjes: unfortunately your little project uses /usr/bin/valac ... otherwise I could point it to the OE one :P Sep 23 13:21:45 mrmoku`: the problem is fixed indeed Sep 23 13:21:48 :p Sep 23 13:21:52 ahh good :) Sep 23 13:21:52 mrmoku`: thanks anyway Sep 23 13:34:03 mrmoku: i'm giving up on bitbake... i'll now try to build fsousaged on my fr.... Sep 23 13:34:19 agg1n: ouch Sep 23 13:37:21 mrmoku: do you think it's fsousaged's fault that ophonekitd failes? Sep 23 13:37:41 agg1n: its not ophonekitd segfaulting... its fsousaged :P Sep 23 13:38:28 mrmoku: i can't get fsousaged to segfault, do ihave to do something special? Sep 23 13:39:38 agg1n: what does ListResources give you? Sep 23 13:40:06 mrmoku: what do you mean? Sep 23 13:40:27 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage ... ListResources Sep 23 13:40:54 agg1n: because fsousaged gets automatically restarted by dbus activation you might just not notice it segfaulted :P Sep 23 13:41:14 ['CPU', 'Display', 'GSM', 'Bluetooth', 'WiFi', 'GPS'] Sep 23 13:41:23 agg1n: and that is current HEAD? Sep 23 13:41:45 root@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed fsousaged Sep 23 13:41:45 fsousaged - 0.9.0.1+gitr502+38457666000ed0865f0e89fd157a28c4738e525f-r0.0 - Sep 23 13:41:54 no Sep 23 13:42:11 249... Sep 23 13:42:14 ahhh Sep 23 13:42:31 it is current HEAD that is segfaulting... that's why I set the rev to one older Sep 23 13:42:57 but with the fix you and ptitjes came up yesterday... we need current HEAD to get rid of the doubled signal Sep 23 13:43:04 ok, will install current HEAD.. Sep 23 13:43:38 agg1n: want an ipk? Sep 23 13:43:45 mrmoku: yes! Sep 23 13:43:49 moment... Sep 23 13:45:27 agg1n: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/fsousaged/fsousaged_0.9.0.1+gitr502+38457666000ed0865f0e89fd157a28c4738e525f-r0.0_armv4t.ipk Sep 23 13:49:46 mrmoku: thx, now it segfaults :))) Sep 23 13:49:58 agg1n: welcome ;) Sep 23 13:51:07 admiral0: pong Sep 23 14:07:49 mrmoku: any idea how i can at patches to fsousaged in my bitbake? (if i add it to conucopia.inc i get an error msg on build: "No file to patch. Skipping patch." Sep 23 14:08:17 agg1n: I'm doing it via the local-builds.conf Sep 23 14:08:45 agg1n: put something like: Sep 23 14:08:47 SRC_URI_pn-fsousaged = "file:///home/mok/src/other/openmoko/cornucopia/fsousaged" Sep 23 14:08:50 SRCREV_pn-fsousaged = "LOCAL" Sep 23 14:08:52 SRCPV_pn-fsousaged = "LOCAL" Sep 23 14:08:55 S_pn-fsousaged = "${WORKDIR}/${PN}" Sep 23 14:09:02 into conf/local-builds.conf and activate it in conf/local.conf Sep 23 14:09:40 ok Sep 23 14:10:01 PaulFertser: is it possible to qi to pass an additional kernel switch if usb is connected(power)? Sep 23 14:10:15 s/kernel switch/kernel param/ Sep 23 14:10:17 admiral0 meant: PaulFertser: is it possible to qi to pass an additional kernel param if usb is connected(power)? Sep 23 14:12:13 ptitjes: when does one get (process:2058): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot retrieve class for invalid (unclassed) type `' Sep 23 14:13:11 ptitjes: var r = new Resource( name, sender, path ); Sep 23 14:13:14 is causing it Sep 23 14:14:21 mrmoku: maybe users has to be a contrsuction property.. but i'm really new to vala Sep 23 14:16:10 agg1n: what do you think... will we learn enough vala by debugging to write some nice lfg-vala-efl? :P Sep 23 14:18:35 mrmoku: i would love to do that.. is that possible with current ophonekitd? Sep 23 14:19:03 agg1n: hmm.. not sure... but hopefully we will get there soon Sep 23 14:22:51 ptitjes: you have to fix and update ophonekitd-vala Sep 23 14:23:08 there are at least two people interested in finally writing that fscking new frontend! Sep 23 14:28:38 nice to see there is some 2.6.31 activity in kernel.git at git.openmoko.org :) Sep 23 14:31:33 dos1: yet more instability ;) Sep 23 14:32:47 mrmoku, which projectthrows that error? Sep 23 14:32:55 playya_: fsousaged Sep 23 14:33:02 woot? Sep 23 14:33:17 playya_: it came with the last commit from mickey_away that splits one .vala into two Sep 23 14:33:52 playya_: it is thrown when constructing an instance of a Resource class Sep 23 14:35:18 yes. maybe it's a vala bug Sep 23 14:35:46 ...resource_new calls g_object_new( RESOURCE_TYPE .... Sep 23 14:36:00 this should register the type Sep 23 14:38:37 mrmoku, do you have some previous lines like "GType is in use" ? Sep 23 14:38:59 ** Message: plugin.vala:130: /usr//lib/cornucopia/modules/fsousage/controller.so load (GType is in use) Sep 23 14:39:05 ** Message: plugin.vala:130: /usr//lib/cornucopia/modules/fsousage/lowlevel_openmoko.so load (GType is in use) Sep 23 14:39:12 playya_: those I have, yes Sep 23 14:39:36 hmm. i think mickey caused a name collision Sep 23 14:47:39 PaulFertser: ping Sep 23 14:59:10 dos1, what do we need vala in task-shr-feed for? Sep 23 14:59:19 TAsn: for me ;> Sep 23 14:59:28 ? Sep 23 14:59:29 TAsn: i want to have valac on my neo :D Sep 23 14:59:37 I hope you are joking Sep 23 14:59:39 no Sep 23 14:59:41 i already have Sep 23 14:59:43 ohhh Sep 23 14:59:44 nvm Sep 23 14:59:45 shr-feed Sep 23 14:59:48 gcc, valac etc. ;) Sep 23 14:59:54 for some reason I thought image Sep 23 14:59:57 :) Sep 23 14:59:58 dont mind me :) Sep 23 15:00:18 I'm going away again. Sep 23 15:00:19 ciao. Sep 23 15:04:35 larsc: pong Sep 23 15:04:55 admiral0: requires qi modification, seems trivial enough Sep 23 15:06:34 åá Sep 23 15:07:10 should be great to add init=whatever to launch only a gui Sep 23 15:10:36 PaulFertser: I've started pushing things to git.openmoko.org. I was wondering if you had some time to go through [1] and see if ok, or if something is missing. Sep 23 15:10:40 [1] https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/target/linux/s3c24xx/patches-2.6.31/057-pcf50633.patch Sep 23 15:11:51 so we soon will have 2.6.31? Sep 23 15:12:20 i guess Sep 23 15:12:49 larsc: i'll try today's evening. Sep 23 15:13:44 i'm not exactly productive lately :( Sep 23 15:18:02 mrmoku: ERROR: '/home/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/freesmartphone/libfsobasics_git.bb' failed Sep 23 15:20:31 dos1: ? Sep 23 15:20:49 dos1: any log? Sep 23 15:21:14 PaulFertser: so could you please tell me how to know if usb is charging? Sep 23 15:21:24 ohhhh Sep 23 15:21:32 i know C, but i'm almost a complete noob in hw issues Sep 23 15:21:38 mrmoku: that's probably the same as previously Sep 23 15:21:43 but i think i know why it happens Sep 23 15:21:50 (checking now, if it's what i think it is :P) Sep 23 15:22:16 admiral0: there's a status register in pcf50633 that tells if usb is active or not. Sep 23 15:22:39 mrmoku: yup, it's that vapi thing Sep 23 15:23:35 how do i get it? Sep 23 15:23:58 mrmoku: fixed ;) Sep 23 15:24:19 mrmoku: cleaning vala (that one for neo, not -native) helped Sep 23 15:24:27 mickey_away, come back and fix it! :P Sep 23 15:25:29 heh Sep 23 15:36:16 admiral0: i do not have the datasheet handy, sorry Sep 23 15:36:42 anyway i find it cleaner to do it with initscripts Sep 23 15:42:37 agg1n, playya_: reverting 62a65b70ce9edd3c1ad1469367a07345afc7473a fixes the segfault Sep 23 15:42:49 ok Sep 23 15:42:56 agg1n, playya_: though... the signal thing is not yet fixed correctly I think Sep 23 15:42:58 mrmoku: revert 2ecaaa7ef01807de26ef5dbefa6c0198cb0e7a14 in shr/import Sep 23 15:43:05 I get only one signal... but to early Sep 23 15:43:11 when the resource is not yet ready Sep 23 15:43:41 ok. checking Sep 23 15:44:23 dos1: done Sep 23 15:44:31 mrmoku: thanks Sep 23 15:44:51 mrmoku: are you aure that it's really send to early? yesterday i found out that while the resource is getting enabled a disable call come from somewhere :X Sep 23 15:45:00 s/aure/sure Sep 23 15:45:33 agg1n: hmm... how did you check that? Sep 23 15:46:47 mrmoku: i inserted some "print"s in resource.py or so (dont't know why that is used oO) Sep 23 15:46:58 i'm wondering why fsousage handles it's own state instead of just proxying Sep 23 15:49:00 mrmoku: half a second after gsm resource was started to be enabled, a "disable" command was put to queue, which then gets executed right after "enable" command is finished -_- Sep 23 15:49:21 agg1n: as soon as ophonekitd segfaults it gets disabled because there are no more users Sep 23 15:50:25 mrmoku: ok don't know when ophonekitd segfaults exactly :/ Sep 23 15:51:18 isn't it after the resource_changed callback gets called? Sep 23 15:51:20 mrmoku, what's higher priority? the signal or the type? Sep 23 15:51:44 playya_: well... the type makes it segfault... so the type. Sep 23 15:52:09 But that one is fixed by reverting the split of plugin.vala Sep 23 15:52:16 * mrmoku tried that Sep 23 15:54:59 playya_: question is if proxy.enable() is sync and returns when the resource is ready... Sep 23 15:56:12 afaik vala creates a wrapper for async methods which are called synchronous Sep 23 15:56:39 playya_: but that would be with yield then, no? Sep 23 15:58:02 hmm. maybe with 0.7.6 ... Sep 23 15:58:58 can you paste the laste 10-20 lines of the output and maybe some lines from the log? Sep 23 16:02:59 playya_: for the signal thing? Sep 23 16:03:38 both if possble Sep 23 16:03:57 playya_: for the signal thing fsousaged does not output anything Sep 23 16:04:06 ok Sep 23 16:04:20 1s. i have an idea Sep 23 16:04:51 I have to be the first who request gsm. Sep 23 16:09:25 ping larsc. Sep 23 16:14:21 Hello All, I built myself a local copy of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 with bitbake, and tried to install the resulting ipk into my freerunner. scp'd it across and did an opkg install but it produced an error. I'll try post it here, hold on Sep 23 16:14:48 Installing libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2-0 (0.0.1+gitrLOCAL-r1) to root... Sep 23 16:14:48 Collected errors: Sep 23 16:14:48 * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2-0: Sep 23 16:14:48 * libframeworkd-phonegui0 (>= 0.0.2+gitr760+75e456b0178df1ea6652330ad5b7188b6b148cd8) * libframeworkd-glib0 (>= 0.0.1+gitr99+6bf821c00cb51aff39eeb60e6133b36c0322871f) * Sep 23 16:15:42 Arigead: scp the libframeworkd-phonegui0 ipk and install that one first Sep 23 16:17:01 mrmoku: thanks I'll try that. I did have the repo libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2 installed and removed that before I installed my own so thought it would resolve things. Thanks a millio Sep 23 16:24:07 mrmoku, ok. i can reproduce it Sep 23 16:24:21 playya_: good thing :) Sep 23 16:24:52 mrmoku: my fsousaged didn't segfault Sep 23 16:25:14 agg1n: which one? Sep 23 16:25:30 mrmoku: i hope it is HEAD :D Sep 23 16:26:04 agg1n: better check ;) Sep 23 16:26:10 * mrmoku off for dinner meanwhile Sep 23 16:26:15 bbiab Sep 23 16:28:34 mrmoku: yes, it seems to be my locally built fsousaged, strange, i just changed the order of resource.c|vala and plugin.c|vala in the makefile... Sep 23 17:06:04 Weiss: ping Sep 23 17:07:06 Weiss: non-KMS glamo on drm enabled kernel with latest xorg segfaults in glamo code, any idea? http://pastebin.ca/1576710 Sep 23 17:12:04 agg1n: hehe... I was looking at (and thinking about) Makefile ordering too... did not try though :) Sep 23 17:14:29 agg1n, playya_: sleep(1) between getting the ResourceChanged signal and powering the antenna is enough to make ophonekitd work Sep 23 17:14:53 http://www.robobunny.com/projects/asciiquarium/html/ Sep 23 17:15:01 DOWANTDOWANTDOWANTDOWANT on neo! Sep 23 17:15:03 :D Sep 23 17:15:53 i have it on pc Sep 23 17:15:55 it's awesome :) Sep 23 17:18:23 oh, that's perl Sep 23 17:19:54 mrmoku: ok, i'll check if proxy.enable() is sync Sep 23 17:25:09 mrmoku: damn, it doens't even make a difference if its async or sync Sep 23 17:42:10 dos1: hehe, nice Sep 23 18:35:11 dos1, here? Sep 23 18:35:23 tamagotchi man? Sep 23 18:36:20 TAsn: hmm? Sep 23 18:36:50 dos1, did you see all the emails about phonelog? Sep 23 18:37:03 they all look like opimd bugs :) Sep 23 18:37:10 btw, is it safe to opkg upgrade? Sep 23 18:37:23 and mrmoku what about my testing image? :) Sep 23 18:37:37 TAsn: it's safe Sep 23 18:37:42 thanks. Sep 23 18:37:43 TAsn: and i saw mails Sep 23 18:37:52 TAsn: safe way to hell ;) Sep 23 18:37:54 TAsn: and i need more info Sep 23 18:38:10 dos1, phonelog works great for you? Sep 23 18:38:13 yes Sep 23 18:38:28 you are using pyphonelog, right Sep 23 18:38:29 ? Sep 23 18:38:51 * TAsn is upgrading Sep 23 18:38:54 after a long time Sep 23 18:38:56 well, there is only one reported opimd bug ATM (with backtrace and everything needed), but it makes whole frameworkd failing ;P Sep 23 18:38:58 I was out. Sep 23 18:39:01 TAsn: yes, i'm using pyphonelog Sep 23 18:39:06 dos1, hm.. Sep 23 18:40:30 I'm trying to think what to do. Sep 23 18:43:10 can someone point me to any examples/docs of connecting to an ISP using a data call? Sep 23 18:43:26 dos1, to me it seems like the "getting data from opimd" part is broken Sep 23 18:43:29 as the db looks good Sep 23 18:43:32 though this is terribly weird. Sep 23 18:45:03 ok, dos1 still here? Sep 23 18:45:06 I think I found a funny issue Sep 23 18:45:21 pyphonelog Sep 23 18:45:26 TAsn: yup? Sep 23 18:45:29 gets calls this way: Sep 23 18:45:38 if there's a limit of 50 Sep 23 18:46:12 it'll get all the new calls (i.e, after reboot), and if there are less than 50 it'll complete the list with oldest calls possible Sep 23 18:46:16 i.e Sep 23 18:46:23 after a cold boot Sep 23 18:46:33 I'll get calls to Sep 23 18:46:34 1 Sep 23 18:46:34 2 Sep 23 18:46:35 3 Sep 23 18:46:35 4 Sep 23 18:46:41 if I'll make a call Sep 23 18:46:41 ooooooooooohhh Sep 23 18:46:43 I'll get Sep 23 18:46:44 1 Sep 23 18:46:44 2 Sep 23 18:46:45 3 Sep 23 18:46:46 4 Sep 23 18:46:48 i know Sep 23 18:46:48 5 Sep 23 18:46:58 :) Sep 23 18:46:58 what's the issue? Sep 23 18:47:04 string vs. float Sep 23 18:47:07 ? Sep 23 18:47:10 sorting? Sep 23 18:47:14 yup Sep 23 18:47:21 you kept a float as string?! Sep 23 18:47:41 btw, I'm not sure you completely got me Sep 23 18:47:45 so I'll explain just in case Sep 23 18:47:53 let's say I have calls Sep 23 18:47:53 1 Sep 23 18:47:53 2 Sep 23 18:47:53 3 Sep 23 18:47:54 4 Sep 23 18:47:55 in db Sep 23 18:47:58 actually Sep 23 18:47:59 4 Sep 23 18:47:59 3 Sep 23 18:48:01 2 Sep 23 18:48:03 1 Sep 23 18:48:07 (in that order, 4 is the newest) Sep 23 18:48:10 I'll make a call Sep 23 18:48:13 I'll see now Sep 23 18:48:14 5 Sep 23 18:48:15 4 Sep 23 18:48:17 3 Sep 23 18:48:19 2 Sep 23 18:48:21 1 Sep 23 18:48:23 after a reboot I'll see Sep 23 18:48:25 4 Sep 23 18:48:27 3 Sep 23 18:48:29 2 Sep 23 18:48:31 1 Sep 23 18:48:32 TAsn: in database it's stored as string AFAIR Sep 23 18:48:33 and after making a call Sep 23 18:48:35 I'll see Sep 23 18:48:37 6 Sep 23 18:48:39 4 Sep 23 18:48:41 3 Sep 23 18:48:45 2 Sep 23 18:48:47 1 Sep 23 18:48:57 I gave a complete bug report, do as you please :) Sep 23 18:49:14 (assuming that you please to fix it) Sep 23 18:49:33 (bad english always convinces people to fix bugs{ Sep 23 18:50:53 dos1, Sep 23 18:50:55 2|1|Line|1 Sep 23 18:50:55 1|1|Peer|tel:097454558 Sep 23 18:51:00 wtf?! why in different lines? Sep 23 18:51:06 it should be Sep 23 18:51:18 TAsn: look at tables structure Sep 23 18:51:18 1|tel:number|1 Sep 23 18:51:22 doesn't it? Sep 23 18:52:37 I can see you made it "generic" Sep 23 18:52:40 I'm just wondering why Sep 23 18:54:32 dos1, any reason why? Sep 23 18:54:58 not now, i have to read book to school for tomorrow Sep 23 18:55:02 sorry :( Sep 23 18:55:09 oh, school started, bah. :| Sep 23 18:55:20 well do you want me to open a bug report about this issue? Sep 23 18:55:34 if so, what do you want me to write that'll let you know what I'm talking about? Sep 23 18:56:33 TAsn: write what you want, i'll ask you if it won't be enough Sep 23 18:56:47 Type TEXT, Sep 23 18:56:48 Timestamp TEXT, Sep 23 18:56:48 Timezone TEXT, Sep 23 18:56:48 Direction TEXT, Sep 23 18:56:48 Duration TEXT, Sep 23 18:56:48 Cost TEXT, Sep 23 18:56:52 wth?! text? :| Sep 23 18:57:29 timezone is ok, but the rest... Sep 23 18:57:30 :| Sep 23 18:59:26 TAsn: hasn't started school in israel yet Sep 23 18:59:38 bumbl, school already started Sep 23 18:59:42 s/started school/school started/ Sep 23 18:59:42 bumbl meant: TAsn: hasn't school started in israel yet Sep 23 18:59:44 though I'm too cool for school Sep 23 18:59:47 (actually, too old) Sep 23 19:00:25 TAsn: i know - but usually one knows when school starts anyway (streets get calmer, everything is nicer when those litte bastards are locked somewhere ;)) Sep 23 19:00:53 TAsn: can you possibly teach maths at school? ;) Sep 23 19:01:15 PaulFertser, huh? Sep 23 19:01:24 bumbl, oh, of course I noticed, traffic got crazy. :| Sep 23 19:01:33 lucky me, I bought a motorcycle :) Sep 23 19:01:41 TAsn: well, if you're too old to study there you can at least teach. Sep 23 19:01:53 PaulFertser, I'm to young to teach. Sep 23 19:01:55 too* Sep 23 19:02:08 I'm exactly in the right age to party :() Sep 23 19:02:14 nothing more. Sep 23 19:02:30 TAsn: well that's the best age in life ;) Sep 23 19:02:41 hehe :) Sep 23 19:02:44 yeah. Sep 23 19:03:14 though you should somehow get enough money to party with some job Sep 23 19:03:16 ;) Sep 23 19:04:59 that's why I do work Sep 23 19:05:02 just not as a teacher :) Sep 23 19:05:35 Hello gang. I have a question regarding microSD. It seems that my FreeRunner suddenly can't read any of my microSD cards anymore. At first, I thought it was a distro problem (I was using SHR), but now, I'm trying to upgrade the GSM firmware, and when I try booting into the SD card (using the NOR boot loader) it loads the kernel, but then panics with I/O errors! Sep 23 19:05:37 Is this a known issue? Sep 23 19:05:46 TAsn: my stupid students told me today that i should teach them instead of telling "read there and there, do that and that and ask questions" :((( Sep 23 19:05:55 Luckily not all of them. Sep 23 19:06:07 Andre613: not really Sep 23 19:06:34 Andre613: have you tried to clean the contacts with alcohol? Sep 23 19:06:52 PaulFertser, I hate the stupid spoiled needing to be spoon fed brats of today's generation Sep 23 19:07:04 I always told my parents not to allow my brother to take a private tutor. Sep 23 19:07:24 as it's a waste of time, money and most of all, it's just bad education, letting the kid give up on himself :| Sep 23 19:07:28 PaulFertser: hrm.. no, actually I'll give that a shot. I know the cards are still good, since the PC can read them fine. Sep 23 19:07:30 TAsn: it looks like those who tell me that are just trying to go the easy route not understanding it's not really beneficial. Sep 23 19:07:46 TAsn: yep :-/ Sep 23 19:07:47 PaulFertser, of course. Sep 23 19:08:29 TAsn: my brother left home at ~16, started to live partially with my granny, partially with his friends etc. Sep 23 19:08:44 wow. Sep 23 19:08:53 that's hard :| Sep 23 19:09:03 I still haven't left home, and I'm 21 Sep 23 19:09:11 I plan on leaving home next year though Sep 23 19:09:27 though here Sep 23 19:09:30 TAsn: probably when he was ~17 he brought a girl there (to my granny's) and lived with her for about 2 months. Sep 23 19:09:35 people actually stay at home Sep 23 19:09:40 until 23 Sep 23 19:09:41 or more Sep 23 19:09:49 so I'm ok :) Sep 23 19:10:05 PaulFertser, how did your granny respond to that? Sep 23 19:10:45 TAsn: she didn't like that girl but didn't really loudly complain as well. :-/ Sep 23 19:10:48 TAsn: it depends on what this tutor does - i think the tutor system as it is within the british educational system (universities) is quite nice Sep 23 19:11:17 bumbl, I know nothing about tutoring in the uk Sep 23 19:11:19 I'm talking about kids Sep 23 19:11:22 taking private tutors Sep 23 19:11:27 who teach the same thing as the teacher Sep 23 19:11:44 just instead of letting kids do some reading at home Sep 23 19:11:51 ok - here half of our class (the lazy ones) have a private tutor Sep 23 19:11:53 they just spoon feeding, reading with the kids Sep 23 19:12:16 bumbl, exactly, the lazy ones who are too lazy to read for themselves and prefer having someone read it for them. Sep 23 19:12:20 and help them solve questions Sep 23 19:12:27 instead of thinking about them for more than 15 mins. Sep 23 19:12:31 but actually although they should know better this keeps them from going to facebook, watch tv,... Sep 23 19:12:52 so they pay a kind of "nanny" although they should be too old for that Sep 23 19:12:56 which in turn means exactly what I said Sep 23 19:13:01 does someone know what does AT%CUNS=2 do ? Sep 23 19:13:03 they are giving up on themeselves Sep 23 19:13:21 they don't think they can resist all the temptations Sep 23 19:13:25 and study for real. Sep 23 19:13:51 Deubeuliou: unsoliticed replies related IIRC Sep 23 19:13:55 Deubeuliou: let me see Sep 23 19:14:22 uk university tutor should mentor you (e.g. help you to help yourself, discuss stuff with you, give you tips,...) Sep 23 19:15:08 universities tutors are different than Sep 23 19:15:14 high school tutors Sep 23 19:16:08 omfg Sep 23 19:16:09 TAsn: well but i'll tell you - just because they have a tutor now it does not mean they will fail later Sep 23 19:16:12 it's still upgrading Sep 23 19:16:12 :| Sep 23 19:16:22 bumbl, of course not Sep 23 19:16:36 it jsut means they'll have difficulties later (in life) Sep 23 19:16:43 because they'll grow up being spoiled Sep 23 19:17:44 i wish it would be so - but money (and contacts) makes the world go round Sep 23 19:18:47 at least here nepotism is quite strong Sep 23 19:18:51 what the heck is this moblin hype? Sep 23 19:18:57 PaulFertser: Looks like your suggestion worked! She booted into the GSM flash app! Sep 23 19:19:07 dell announces tomorrow its first moblin edition laptop Sep 23 19:19:47 khiraly11: big player behind - streamlined interface - integrated social networks Sep 23 19:20:01 i know all this. Just whatta heck Sep 23 19:20:08 bumbl, of course :) Sep 23 19:20:12 but they'll still suck Sep 23 19:20:12 could be big for average joe Sep 23 19:20:15 its beta as hell, and they are coming out with an actual device? Sep 23 19:20:16 even if they'll get good jobs Sep 23 19:20:17 and money Sep 23 19:20:19 anyhow, I'm off. Sep 23 19:20:24 bye Sep 23 19:20:41 good jobs + money != suck by the way Sep 23 19:20:44 its a *mobile phone*, I saw in the presentation video Sep 23 19:21:01 at least not in a capitalistic system Sep 23 19:21:07 khiraly11: that's what we need Sep 23 19:21:12 what they will use as gsm stack? freesmartphone? I doubt it Sep 23 19:21:22 yalbm = yet another linux based mobile Sep 23 19:21:32 khiraly11: i think they'll use ofono Sep 23 19:21:42 Deubeuliou: i'm not sure but probably that disables or enables unsolicited replies in between regular replies. Sep 23 19:21:44 rotfl @ ofono Sep 23 19:22:02 its more beta then anything else. ITs like frameworkd from last year Sep 23 19:22:28 PaulFertser: ok. I saw that FSO writes CUNS=2 at startup and never changes it Sep 23 19:23:05 I was wondering what between =0 and =2 enables and disables it Sep 23 19:24:38 thanks :) Sep 23 19:26:29 khiraly11: (ofono) are you sure? They say they'll be ready to replace proprietary telephony on n900 in like 4 months. Sep 23 19:26:47 Deubeuliou: welcome, hope i did remember it correctly ;) Sep 23 19:27:09 aham, but freesmartphone.org is usable *right now* Sep 23 19:27:32 no serious bug. IT didnt crashed on me since two weeks continues run Sep 23 19:28:55 khiraly11: there's some odd dbus issue though? Sep 23 19:29:28 khiraly11: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19796 Sep 23 19:33:26 PaulFertser: btw, n900 is no competition, its more powerful than my old desktop computer. If they can run it on GTA02, then we can talk;-) Sep 23 19:33:48 lindi-: heh, I tried to read the initial reply, but honestly I dont udnerstand when this bug happens Sep 23 19:34:43 khiraly11: they do run it on gta02. Actually, ofono devs are even using gta01's Sep 23 19:35:09 hmm Sep 23 19:35:15 its news to me Sep 23 19:35:42 ok, then I take back my words. Im uninformed enough to give serious thoughts Sep 23 19:43:53 hmm, dell comes out tomorrow with a developer edition Sep 23 19:43:56 thats better Sep 23 19:49:33 lindi-: ping ? Sep 23 20:14:28 21:36, I said: * TAsn is upgrading Sep 23 20:14:32 23:11 Sep 23 20:14:37 I'm still upgrading Sep 23 20:14:41 wtf?! :( Sep 23 20:15:07 ~1:40 Sep 23 20:15:11 and still going. Sep 23 20:15:21 ciao. Sep 23 20:18:32 khiraly11: wrong it looses sms here every now and then, suddenly does not accept or place calls anymore (with and without dead modem [without and with interference noise]),... Sep 23 20:19:36 well anyway - have a nice day Sep 23 20:31:30 are you guys having trouble building tangogps 0.9.7? Sep 23 22:01:37 mrmoku: proxy.enable() is async Sep 23 22:02:00 Weiss: I was playing with illume keyboard segfaults.. first trace ended always in miDCRestoreUnderCursor then after commenting this function out in miDCSaveUnderCursor and later in miDCPutUpCursor see http://pastebin.ca/1577122 Sep 23 22:02:33 mrmoku: i'll provide a patch soon Sep 23 22:03:24 s/mrmoku/mrmoku|away Sep 23 22:37:27 playya_: ping Sep 23 22:38:04 agg1n1, pong Sep 23 22:39:05 playya_: you want to apply two patches? or should mrmoku test them first? Sep 23 22:39:35 show me the patches Sep 23 22:40:07 http://agg1n.pastebin.com/m3e815b6c Sep 23 22:40:28 this solves the problem with that gtype warning Sep 23 22:40:45 http://agg1n.pastebin.com/m5eee4f50 Sep 23 22:41:30 this fixes the bug that the ResourceChanged signal was fired before the resource's state actually changed Sep 23 22:42:27 nope for the last one Sep 23 22:42:50 or, 1s Sep 23 22:43:22 removing all updateStatus() should cause some new problems Sep 23 22:44:51 they are just _moved_, the patch makes updateStatus() the callback for the dbus calls which tell the resource to enable/disable/.. Sep 23 22:49:14 hmm. libfso tells me it is async Sep 23 22:49:20 but not the implementation Sep 23 22:50:03 the implementation is somewhere in python Sep 23 22:52:18 yes Sep 23 22:53:02 but the client code needs some extra glue for asnc, too Sep 23 22:54:58 maybe proxy.enable() is sync, but the implementation then just puts "enabled" to a queue and returns Sep 23 23:10:53 agg1n1, i rebuild fsousage and test your patches Sep 23 23:11:16 playya_: thanks :) Sep 23 23:22:29 playya_: i'm going to bed now, gn8 Sep 24 00:11:22 JaMa: hmm.. there's been quite a lot of cursor-related stuff going into the Xorg tree recently.. which revision are you using Sep 24 00:11:26 +? Sep 24 01:06:46 l.151 of frameworkd framework/subsystems/odeviced/audio.py there is a typo : ivorbisdec instead of vorbisdec Sep 24 01:07:38 if any debian dev is around , there is also a missing dependency on python-alsaaudio Sep 24 01:09:25 oh no sorry ivorbisdev is correct :-/ Sep 24 01:13:05 and afaik it checks for ivorbis and if it doesn't exist it uses vorbis **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 24 02:59:58 2009