**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 12 02:59:56 2009 Oct 12 03:00:42 ptitjes, ping Oct 12 06:40:33 Shared tmpdir for different distros is a mess! :( Oct 12 06:41:30 shr requested different gcc version than angstrom and now I have conflicts between gcc gcc-cross and intermediate etc.. Oct 12 07:19:14 Weiss: ping Oct 12 07:20:32 Blu3: pong Oct 12 07:21:12 n/m, it was an issue with a mismatched $host/python-version and $target/python-version Oct 12 07:21:46 i.e. was launching i686-...gcc instead of armv4...gcc Oct 12 07:24:25 Blu3: you mean the fact you ping me ? Oct 12 07:24:39 python ??? Oct 12 07:24:49 :p Oct 12 07:24:53 yes. i pinged you because you'd encountered it before. this was before i solved it Oct 12 07:57:52 JaMa: re-ping Oct 12 08:01:38 Weiss: i tried to rebase libdrm to latest git-master and just first patch creates conflict (rebase created many conflicts, so i applied my first patch autoconf/automake stuff conflict and then remaining patches from your branch and it looks ok Oct 12 08:04:03 hmm.. the stuff which alters configure.ac, Makefile.am and so on? Oct 12 08:04:27 yes Oct 12 08:04:48 the rest is in separete dir so no problem there :) Oct 12 08:05:38 so I removed patch for configure.ac Makefile.am from your first patch and created own and then applied all on clean upstream master Oct 12 08:06:18 now I'm waiting for it to build and test Oct 12 08:06:49 ok, great Oct 12 08:07:09 is there anything exciting upstream, or was it just a maintenance thing? Oct 12 08:08:29 probably nothing exciting for our glamo use.. Oct 12 08:09:11 but I merged libdrm-glamo_git.bb to libdrm_git directly and I wanted to have correct PV for both (2.4.15+gitr..) Oct 12 08:10:09 now I have libdrm_git from mesa git and then applied your patches on top of it just for om-gta02 (this should be better for oe.dev branch) Oct 12 08:10:48 as in anongit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm.git? Oct 12 08:11:56 yes git://anongit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm Oct 12 08:12:26 that's the right one to use Oct 12 08:12:34 (for libdrm at least - stay away from it for the kernel bits) Oct 12 08:12:41 (but you probably know that already) Oct 12 08:13:10 Weiss: kernel bits you mean whats included in git.openmoko kernel kms branch? Oct 12 08:13:14 yep Oct 12 08:13:40 drm.git also contains the DRM kernel bits to be built as a module, but it's not maintained Oct 12 08:13:57 yes I know from using nouveau on my desktop :) Oct 12 08:15:06 Weiss: and what about updating kms branch for larsc's kernel branches? Oct 12 08:15:42 Weiss: looks like just non-kms glamo driver is in http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/glamo-2.6.31 Oct 12 08:16:16 * JaMa still hopes that 2.6.31 will solve kms WSOD automagically Oct 12 08:16:48 ah, yes - I need to do that Oct 12 08:17:15 probably when I get internet access in my new flat, though Oct 12 08:18:13 once I'm a bit more settled in my new country, there'll be lots more Mesa work.. Oct 12 08:18:43 great! looking forward to test it as always :) Oct 12 08:19:17 :) Oct 12 08:19:44 I've been working on vertex submission, but the guts of Mesa are quite hard to figure out Oct 12 08:22:31 Weiss: hey :) Oct 12 08:22:34 morning :) Oct 12 08:22:45 Weiss: btw, do you experience any problems due to language difference? ;) Oct 12 08:23:27 PaulFertser: not so many - I've been learning German for a long time, so it's just a question of getting "tuned in" and learning all the missing vocab Oct 12 08:24:53 Weiss: oh. I thought that English is enough there. Oct 12 08:25:26 you can get away with just English, but it feels like cheating Oct 12 08:25:35 On my short trip the only language-related problem was talking with truck drivers :) Oct 12 08:25:44 work is all in english - it's the official language of the research centre Oct 12 08:26:03 yeah - I had some interesting problems when my belongings got delivered. I don't think the delivery driver even spoke German.. Oct 12 08:28:09 Weiss: have you got a bike already? Oct 12 08:36:51 morning Oct 12 08:51:17 Weiss: lol Oct 12 08:51:52 Weiss: you might be right Oct 12 08:53:48 heyho Oct 12 09:07:50 PaulFertser: not yet.. I might buy one or bring my own across, though Oct 12 09:09:00 Weiss: beware, blinking tail light is prohibited there :) Oct 12 09:11:21 ah, nobody really cares (usually) Oct 12 09:12:46 still searching for a 2.6.28 kernel, anyone got one? Oct 12 09:12:59 though I can't speak for other regions, and that's prolly a comunal policy Oct 12 09:14:25 blindcoder: what's your particular need? Oct 12 09:14:46 PaulFertser, joerg_42: same in the UK - technically. but noone cares because blinking ones aren't exactly more difficult to see.. Oct 12 09:14:57 joerg_42: what about jake brake (on trucks)? Oct 12 09:15:23 PaulFertser: huh, what's that? Oct 12 09:15:33 Weiss: the problem with blinking is exactly the opposite afaik, they seem to be nearer and more important than in reality. Oct 12 09:15:51 joerg_42: cool engine braking system for diesel trucks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_brake Oct 12 09:16:03 hmm.. ok Oct 12 09:16:35 Weiss: because you can't easily tell where a blinking light is located afaict. Oct 12 09:16:39 PaulFertser: absolutely no idea Oct 12 09:17:08 You gotta start hanging out with truckers ;) Oct 12 09:29:06 hello all.. i just want to build my own image.. like it's written in the wiki, vala makes a failure which crashes the building Oct 12 09:29:13 there's also a workaround.. Oct 12 09:29:27 but i've got a error with bitbake Oct 12 09:29:36 ERROR: Please set the 'PERSISTENT_DIR' or 'CACHE' variable. Oct 12 09:29:46 so i couldn't use that workaround Oct 12 09:29:56 could someone help me? Oct 12 09:31:19 i define the cache-variable in bitbake/conf/bitbake.conf Oct 12 09:31:25 but it doesn't help Oct 12 10:03:18 skamster_: just do as I do - try to convince the world to write everything in Python, then we won't need bitbake :P Oct 12 10:03:33 sybren: everything in python2.6? Oct 12 10:03:40 nah, 3.1 Oct 12 10:03:56 i don't think my distro supports that at all yet Oct 12 10:04:03 sybren: but then i also couldn't build my image ;) Oct 12 10:05:04 lindi-: that's just a matter of time. I think that by the time we have convinced the world to do everything in Python, they have upgraded to 3.1 or newer. Oct 12 10:05:40 skamster_: you'll just have to scp it to your PythonOnAChip chip and run it, no baking required :) Oct 12 10:06:08 sybren: i hope not :) Oct 12 10:06:18 lindi-: why not? Oct 12 10:06:28 sybren: well at least the scoping is very weird Oct 12 10:06:41 it is? can you explain? Oct 12 10:07:09 sybren: after "for i in xrange(5): print i" i has a value outside the loop as well Oct 12 10:07:34 that's not that weird, it's actually quite useful Oct 12 10:08:00 and still scoped to the block it was first used in, namely the block that contains the for statement Oct 12 10:08:24 after a statement like i = 5 you would also expect i to have a value, right? Oct 12 10:08:39 sybren: only in the block Oct 12 10:09:06 damn bitbake Oct 12 10:09:13 lindi-: and that's what's happening with the for-statement as well: the variable is scoped to the block the for-statement is in. Oct 12 10:09:40 sybren: but the block is the whole function? Oct 12 10:10:14 could be, yes. I've never been bothered enough to check this thoroughly Oct 12 10:10:41 sybren: it is Oct 12 10:12:18 on the whole, I find Python's scoping quite useful and intuitive, especially when you start using inner functions, function decorators, bound functions, etc. Oct 12 10:13:07 sybren: but i don't need those. i just want to be able to minimize the number of in-scope variables at any given time to make it easier to understand the program Oct 12 10:13:19 if someone could help me with this fucking bitbake, it would be wonderfull.. Oct 12 10:13:41 skamster_: sorry, I'm always fighting with bitbake myself whenever I venture a try Oct 12 10:14:06 lindi-: in that case just make sure your functions are small ;-) Oct 12 10:16:31 sybren: an alltime good advice Oct 12 10:17:12 sybren: sure but you can further reduce the number of in-scope varibles by lexical scoping Oct 12 10:32:29 lindi-: if you really need to optimize that much, you should either just get more programming experience or start making your code a whole lot simpler. Oct 12 10:32:40 now I'm off, bbl ;-) Oct 12 11:36:48 PaulFertser: I've been told that 2.6.28 doesn't do a wsod that often (screen white, but phone still working), but I can't find a 2.6.28 anywhere Oct 12 11:37:17 PaulFertser: and since I get that twice or three times a day now it gets really annoying Oct 12 11:37:18 blindcoder: you can checkout whatever version you need from git repo Oct 12 11:38:45 PaulFertser: I have tried to bitbake 'linux-openmoko-stable-2.6.28' but thta gives me a 2.6.29-rc2 :( Oct 12 11:39:22 PaulFertser: how can I do that checkout? Oct 12 11:39:51 blindcoder: nah, you just git checkout the proper tag (fork-to-stable-2.6.29-rc2 Oct 12 11:40:05 blindcoder: go to the directory with kernel sources etc. Oct 12 11:41:14 PaulFertser: okay, I'll see what I find Oct 12 12:09:48 ~log Oct 12 12:09:49 methinks log is http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel/ for #openmoko-cdevel only. Maybe you meant "~logs" ? Oct 12 12:16:56 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * reec68ecc2564 10/lib/simfilesystem.cpp: Oct 12 12:16:56 freesmartphone.org: simfilesystem: first attempt at fixing READ BINARY implementation to something that vaguely resembles a real GSM Oct 12 12:16:56 freesmartphone.org: device Oct 12 12:16:56 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * rb6cc7dbc485d 10/modems/generic.xml: generic.xml: define SIM elementary file EFspn (SIM Provider Name) Oct 12 12:39:47 Would someone know what is the level of implementation of cornucopia? Oct 12 12:39:58 Which subsystems are 100% working in vala now? Oct 12 12:42:41 mickey|office: odeviced has been fully ported to vala, righ ? Oct 12 12:43:04 fsodeviced, fsousaged, fsotimed, fsonetworkd Oct 12 12:43:17 with fsousaged being broken atm. due to some async dbus changes in vala Oct 12 12:43:23 fsogsmd in da works Oct 12 12:43:24 :D Oct 12 12:44:01 yay to mickey|office :) go go go :) Oct 12 12:44:11 thanks mickey|office :) Oct 12 12:44:28 ;) Oct 12 12:44:32 mickey|office: good :-) Oct 12 12:44:37 mickey|office: When do you expect it? Oct 12 13:03:54 playya: the problem with elmdentica you have is because shr-unstable from current shr/import branch is much newer than shr-unstable published on web.. Oct 12 13:04:10 yes. Oct 12 13:04:11 playya: you have sort of shr-unstable testing candidate Oct 12 13:05:52 JaMa: Xserver 1.7.1 RC1 is out ;) Oct 12 13:06:44 Heinervdm: its just 16 patches, but we can try it :) Oct 12 13:07:02 :) Oct 12 13:07:03 I'll run my script if you want :) Oct 12 13:07:10 script? Oct 12 13:07:43 contrib/source-checker/bump.xorg... Oct 12 13:07:58 ah :) Oct 12 13:08:23 it checks if everything xorg related in OE tree is uptodate with xorg individual releases Oct 12 13:08:48 thats how I create those Latest xorg stuff .. patches Oct 12 13:09:45 54 upgraded packages :) Oct 12 13:09:50 mostly font packages Oct 12 13:16:56 JaMa: do you have OE committ access? Oct 12 13:17:05 you should be committing directly ... Oct 12 13:18:01 no Oct 12 13:18:56 but now all can blame mrmoku for my patches as he is acking them :) Oct 12 13:40:58 hehe. You really should be asking for commit access. You have my +1 Oct 12 15:51:13 Do we need matchbox-panel-2 ? Oct 12 15:59:35 ~logs Oct 12 15:59:36 All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Oct 12 16:00:25 JaMa: just this: [15:41:00] hehe. You really should be asking for commit access. You have my +1 Oct 12 16:01:30 thx.. my machine doesn't like much builds in parallel :/ Oct 12 16:02:40 JaMa: i can build now nearly a full image in shr/merge Oct 12 16:02:40 just 1 package left Oct 12 16:02:45 shr-image? Oct 12 16:03:01 task-shr for now :) Oct 12 16:03:18 openmoko-icon-theme-standard2 is failing Oct 12 16:04:54 sent a patch to shr-devel :) Oct 12 16:19:43 JaMa: everything for shr-image builds now :) Oct 12 16:20:18 mrmoku|away: ping, please apply the patches and merge org.oe.dev :) Oct 12 16:32:44 Heinervdm: applied locally on buildhost and building :) Oct 12 16:32:57 :) Oct 12 16:33:07 shr-oemerge Oct 12 16:33:12 yes Oct 12 16:34:10 hi Oct 12 16:34:13 lindi-: ping Oct 12 16:48:55 Heinervdm: nice, much less "preferred version not available" :D Oct 12 16:48:56 only Oct 12 16:49:18 NOTE: preferred version 0.9.1 of libvncserver not available Oct 12 16:49:19 NOTE: preferred version 0.97 of gpe-gallery not available Oct 12 16:49:21 NOTE: preferred version 20060801 of emacs not available Oct 12 16:49:22 NOTE: preferred version 1.4.0.002 of imlib2 not available Oct 12 16:49:56 dos1: the dpms patch for xf86-video-glamo is missing Oct 12 16:50:26 libvncserver and gpe-gallery are svn or git version Oct 12 16:59:59 khiraly1: pong Oct 12 17:00:45 lindi-: I have voice problem the worst with my friend's phone. He basically cant here me at all Oct 12 17:00:59 khiraly1: he has gta02? Oct 12 17:01:03 nope Oct 12 17:01:15 khiraly1: does it work with others? Oct 12 17:01:24 khiraly1: i mean, does your gta02 work with other phones? Oct 12 17:01:26 lindi-: I will ask for the exact mobile phone type, and see, if he can record the audio via his mobile Oct 12 17:01:30 yes, mostly Oct 12 17:01:42 people complains from times to times... Oct 12 17:01:42 khiraly1: can you hear him? Oct 12 17:01:51 for me, the voice is excellent Oct 12 17:02:13 khiraly1: can he here anything? Oct 12 17:02:18 khiraly1: can he hear anything? Oct 12 17:02:39 yes he here something, but he understand really hard, and usually ends up calling me back from landline Oct 12 17:03:07 khiraly1: ok, have you tried amplifying the audio on your end with alsa settings? Oct 12 17:03:16 I need to speak really slowly, to get him understand me, but its really annoying, and he usually says: OK, I call you back from landline Oct 12 17:03:22 khiraly1: and please figure out what phone and operator he has Oct 12 17:03:41 lindi-: yep. I tried fso-simplemixer.py recently Oct 12 17:03:43 khiraly1: so it's not just silent voice but something more complex? Oct 12 17:04:16 lindi-: yes. Its basically my voice is crashing, if I speak normal of too fast. Just with him is the worst Oct 12 17:04:28 I try to record, what he hear Oct 12 17:04:54 If he would have voice recording, it would be the best. If not, I will do it with a microphone Oct 12 17:04:54 khiraly1: recording would let us report it as a bug Oct 12 17:05:20 lindi-: just wanted to inform you, that I found definietly the worst phone;-) Oct 12 17:06:03 lindi-: and by the way, phoning landline is usually the best experience Oct 12 17:06:42 khiraly1: we need to make others believe this is a real bug so the recording is kind of mandatory here :( Oct 12 17:07:08 Heinervdm: xserver-kdrive-glamo? Oct 12 17:07:22 it's =? Oct 12 17:07:22 I never really understood, why we cant route the audio through the cpu, and postprocess the voice from software, to send it in excellent quality Oct 12 17:07:30 ?= Oct 12 17:07:54 hmm Oct 12 17:07:58 dos1: that's overwritten in shr-om-gta02.conf Oct 12 17:08:01 ok, i'm not bitbake expert, i trust you ;) Oct 12 17:08:11 lindi-: this audio chip is so complicated, that I cant believe even the designer see the big picture. He just integrated every possible feature into it... Oct 12 17:08:17 dos1: it's the config from shr/import ;) Oct 12 17:08:18 khiraly1: it would consume cpu time and add delay Oct 12 17:08:38 khiraly1: that's probably the reason Oct 12 17:08:45 lindi-: who cares about cpu time? While I talk, I can pause all other apps Oct 12 17:08:45 ;) Oct 12 17:08:55 khiraly1: but linux is not real time operating system Oct 12 17:09:34 khiraly1: that audio chip is dirt simple Oct 12 17:11:30 khiraly1: and I don't understand how you could postprocess a signal of >80dB S/N and <1% distortion to a "really high quality" by any cpu-dsp-algorithm means Oct 12 17:13:41 khiraly1: you got a noisegate and even an echo-cancellation in calypso and you can tune this to your personal preferences. What else do you need? Oct 12 17:13:55 joerg_42: something is definietly f*cked up. Really. I never had such problem with other mobile phones. Oct 12 17:14:41 joerg_42: It is fustrating like hell. And I need a pilote license to fully set it up. I didnt succeed (yet) to obtain a good voice quality with all mobile phone Oct 12 17:14:43 khiraly1: that's simply because on other phones you can *not* postprocess the audio in any way you like Oct 12 17:15:07 people keeps complaining to me from times to times. And I found recently the worst phone Oct 12 17:15:29 khiraly1: and you really think adding another degree of complexity will help that pilot-licence issue? Oct 12 17:15:44 khiraly1: what's pilot-license? Oct 12 17:18:14 it is as complicated as driving a plane. So full of settings (many analogue meters, you need to care of while you drive an airplane) Oct 12 17:18:33 khiraly1: so? Oct 12 17:18:38 i like it Oct 12 17:18:43 khiraly1: (pilot licence) look at wiki. all the needed knowledge is there Oct 12 17:18:51 that's why i bought that phone Oct 12 17:19:01 ~tell khiraly1 about fr-audio Oct 12 17:19:08 so if something is really complicated people says, its as complicated as obtaining a pilote license. Maybe its only a hungarian term Oct 12 17:19:14 sorry for that Oct 12 17:20:06 using freerunner at daily usage is really great opportunity to learn new things Oct 12 17:20:16 i learnt a lot thanks to FR and SHR Oct 12 17:20:45 if someone needs phone working out of box, then freerunner isn't for him Oct 12 17:20:50 that's all i think about that :P Oct 12 17:20:56 dos1: I do use freerunner daily. Since multiple months. And I do talk many times a day. So I know that I have problem with voice in general Oct 12 17:21:25 then instead of complaining, fix that problems ;p Oct 12 17:21:32 but I dont want to convince you. The voice quality varies with various cellphones. So it depends with who are you talking Oct 12 17:21:46 if you talk always with the same 3-4 people, then maybe you never experience it Oct 12 17:21:57 ok, enough talk. I will report it, when I have recorded audio Oct 12 17:22:01 well, i have my neo still not buzzfixed Oct 12 17:22:15 but i don't complain, as i know it can be fixed Oct 12 17:22:22 i'm just too lazy ;D Oct 12 17:22:34 Im not sure at all, that it can be fixed... Oct 12 17:22:57 ~lart khiraly1 Oct 12 17:22:57 * apt pours gasoline all over khiraly1, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze Oct 12 17:23:10 i meant hardware fix ofc Oct 12 17:23:18 ok, bbl Oct 12 17:23:46 khiraly1: what has pilot license to do with openmoko? Oct 12 17:23:57 khiraly1: ah Oct 12 17:24:04 lindi-: nevermind. was a really bad example Oct 12 17:24:12 fso-monitord fails... Oct 12 17:24:16 my weak english skills, thats it Oct 12 17:24:31 Heinervdm, hmm? Oct 12 17:24:54 khiraly1: i guess we should talk about rocket scientists or something Oct 12 17:24:59 playya_: http://shr.pastebin.com/m397a5bfd Oct 12 17:25:30 lindi-: yeah, thats the correct term in english Oct 12 17:29:20 can i tell git to use the remote branch while merging? Oct 12 17:29:31 i want to replace master by hlid Oct 12 17:30:50 playya_: just use git merge origin/blablabla Oct 12 17:32:19 PaulFertser, yes. but i have to solve some conflicts, but i override master bei origin/dbus-hlid Oct 12 17:33:07 playya_: i do not quite understand you Oct 12 17:33:39 i merge the conficts by hand Oct 12 17:35:36 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r96bd628bc3ea 10/fsogsmd/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetSimInfo() partly done (imsi and issuer) Oct 12 17:39:51 if I can open Dialer, but making calls doesn't work, and incoming calls don't seem to do anything, and suspending never happens even though FSO sends out the suspend idle state, would that be a problem with frameworkd or ophonekitd? Oct 12 17:41:34 net_tux: looks like ophonekitd Oct 12 17:42:36 any suggestions on a scripted way to monitor that so I can have my FR notify me in some way (or just automatically restart ophonekitd)? Oct 12 17:43:06 I can easily write the script, I just need to know how to poke ophonekitd the right way Oct 12 17:43:31 panicking: larsc: yes, i admit there's a possibility for a race, sysfs nodes are read directly indeed. I'm still puzzled by the high rate of reproducibility in A. Oct 12 17:43:46 net_tux: shr-settings checks when it loads up, you could probably use the code from there Oct 12 17:44:14 shr-settings just checks it by ps :P Oct 12 17:44:24 ophonekitd should be fixed to stop crashing Oct 12 17:44:33 as of when? Oct 12 17:44:39 hiding the crash really isn't the answer :P Oct 12 17:44:40 PaulFertser, I'm working on a freerunne nuclear detonation Oct 12 17:44:48 version in repository shouldn't crash at all Oct 12 17:45:05 would that be in the mrmoku feeds? Oct 12 17:45:07 only on some weird things coming from phonegui-efl Oct 12 17:45:15 dos1, i explained yesterday about 5 very reproducible reasons why it crashes Oct 12 17:45:18 panicking: don't forget to use enough heavy water then :) Oct 12 17:45:27 in mrmoku feeds it can crash often :P Oct 12 17:45:29 D_2O Oct 12 17:45:30 PaulFertser: yep. that it actually happens puzzels me too Oct 12 17:45:30 it shouldn't crash even if phonegui-efl sends weird tings Oct 12 17:45:39 i'm not using mrmoku, i told you :P Oct 12 17:45:55 Blu3: a) i'm not saying what it should, just what it does Oct 12 17:46:02 Blu3: b) about mrmoku feeds wasn't to you ;P Oct 12 17:46:30 :] ophonekitd in shr-u repo is quite unstable if anything except idle happens Oct 12 17:47:17 so, the most stable thing right now is to build it myself from the repo? Oct 12 17:51:58 wpwrak, the nuclear detonation happen if I write the power status as the last one register Oct 12 17:52:12 and seems that every register can be written if the device is power down Oct 12 17:52:25 because every register is accessed using the sysfs Oct 12 17:52:42 to write threshold, rate , scale etc Oct 12 17:52:56 So for now I don't now why but it fix the problem Oct 12 17:53:10 panicking: (detonation) no, it shouldn't happen if you write CTRL1 last Oct 12 17:53:22 I do it Oct 12 17:53:27 but it doesnt' work Oct 12 17:53:41 panicking: now that's very interesting Oct 12 17:54:01 larsc: i can't reproduce the race even while constantly requesting current_now Oct 12 17:54:14 /* restore registers after resume */ Oct 12 17:54:14 for (n = 1; n < ARRAY_SIZE(regs_to_save); n++) Oct 12 17:54:14 __reg_write(lis, regs_to_save[n], lis->regs[regs_to_save[n]]); Oct 12 17:54:14 __reg_write(lis, regs_to_save[n], lis->regs[regs_to_save[0]]); Oct 12 17:54:24 sorry Oct 12 17:54:27 i wrong Oct 12 17:54:30 code Oct 12 17:54:33 the code Oct 12 17:54:49 I miss a 0 Oct 12 17:54:51 :( Oct 12 17:54:59 I will test it again Oct 12 17:55:29 But the code is ok without this swap because you can write register when the device Oct 12 17:55:39 has power down mode Oct 12 17:59:02 panicking: (write registers when down) okay, that's good. so in this case we don't have an explanation why andy introduced the code that overwrites the saved register value Oct 12 17:59:17 I have an error Oct 12 17:59:19 in my code Oct 12 17:59:23 I'm checking it again Oct 12 18:00:02 Ok Oct 12 18:00:04 this is better Oct 12 18:00:08 so at the end Oct 12 18:00:11 write to 1 to n Oct 12 18:00:15 and then write 0 Oct 12 18:00:18 seems to be ok Oct 12 18:00:33 so the detonation can't happen Oct 12 18:00:35 are you agree Oct 12 18:00:36 ? Oct 12 18:00:37 or you could just reorder the regs_to_save array Oct 12 18:00:43 yes Oct 12 18:00:50 i reorder them Oct 12 18:00:52 just check Oct 12 18:00:59 if there is somenthing in the code Oct 12 18:01:06 ok? Oct 12 18:02:08 mrmoku|away, phew, I'm after the test :) Oct 12 18:03:09 Test again and send a new patches Oct 12 18:03:11 patch Oct 12 18:05:02 wpwrak, sorry if I don't follow you on the beginning but seems thow the code that everthing can be Oct 12 18:05:04 written Oct 12 18:05:13 i found a thread about accel changes around the date andy committed that mega-change. looking for clue now ... Oct 12 18:05:16 clueS Oct 12 18:11:30 (clue) found none :-( Oct 12 18:11:31 SHR: 03mok 07shr * rdbd7d31be40f 10/ (14 files in 4 dirs): WIP on the no-async rewrite of ophonekitd Oct 12 18:11:41 SHR: 03mok 07shr * rd13427297e4f 10/ophonekitd/ (42 files in 7 dirs): ophonekitd: WIP big rewrite - split it in two :) Oct 12 18:11:55 Ainulindale, mrmoku|away, dos1 here? Oct 12 18:11:57 mrmoku, sup? Oct 12 18:12:15 TAsn: congrats :) Oct 12 18:12:23 mrmoku, thanks. Oct 12 18:12:28 lets just hope it'll be an A Oct 12 18:12:28 :) Oct 12 18:12:43 anyhow Oct 12 18:12:51 what did we decide? Oct 12 18:12:59 do we want to take the winning logo? Oct 12 18:12:59 to be exhausted ;) Oct 12 18:13:06 ahh... log :) Oct 12 18:13:07 +o Oct 12 18:13:08 or do we want to have an internal vote as well? Oct 12 18:13:15 mrmoku, btw, ophonekitd, works? :0 Oct 12 18:13:22 * mrmoku did not read mails the whole day... Oct 12 18:13:29 mrmoku, it wasn't sent in a mail Oct 12 18:13:32 TAsn: progressing - in your direction :) Oct 12 18:13:33 the voting is noww over Oct 12 18:13:41 mrmoku, hehe, damn. :) Oct 12 18:14:03 TAsn: send complete results to coreteam ml, we'll see :P Oct 12 18:14:05 mrmoku, voting is now over, do we want to publish the winner, or have an inner vote as well? Oct 12 18:14:07 I threw away the multithread idea... as it does not work :( Oct 12 18:14:07 ok. Oct 12 18:14:15 dos1, I'll only send top 5 Oct 12 18:14:17 ... Oct 12 18:14:35 dos1, actually top 2 Oct 12 18:14:40 TAsn: so... I split ophonekitd in two halfes ;) Oct 12 18:14:41 as they are WAYYYY AHEAD Oct 12 18:14:51 what was the vote? Oct 12 18:15:00 mrmoku, lol, reminds me of what someone said. Oct 12 18:15:07 mrmoku, a gui daemon and an ophonekitd? Oct 12 18:15:11 mrmoku, what do each of the halves do? i.e. what is responsible for what? Oct 12 18:15:22 TAsn: ophonekitd and ophonekitd-phonegui, yes Oct 12 18:15:38 mrmoku, so rename ophonekitd-phonegui Oct 12 18:15:45 and thus I had to implement our dbus stuff Oct 12 18:15:46 ophonekitd-phonegui should be called Oct 12 18:15:52 ophoneuid Oct 12 18:15:52 :) Oct 12 18:15:55 or Oct 12 18:15:57 phoneuid Oct 12 18:16:13 (without the g as it's a UI not a GUI daemon) Oct 12 18:16:14 ophonekituid Oct 12 18:16:33 TAsn: well... thing is we have phoneGui all over the place Oct 12 18:16:46 well Oct 12 18:16:55 mrmoku, NO! Oct 12 18:16:56 ugly :) Oct 12 18:17:01 mrmoku, it's time to drop it. Oct 12 18:17:02 ... Oct 12 18:17:05 GUI can stand also for different things than Graphical User Interface Oct 12 18:17:09 and btw... right NOW I don't care ;) Oct 12 18:17:12 phoneuid :) Oct 12 18:17:16 let's call it "Great User Interface" Oct 12 18:17:18 ;D Oct 12 18:17:24 mrmoku, aren't you creating another git repo? Oct 12 18:17:27 if not, you SHOUDL Oct 12 18:17:27 :) Oct 12 18:17:29 SHOULD Oct 12 18:17:32 no Oct 12 18:17:52 they are shareing an include file ;) Oct 12 18:18:37 sharing even :P Oct 12 18:18:43 does fso-monitord compile in shr/import? Oct 12 18:19:07 brb Oct 12 18:19:07 Heinervdm: i think it does Oct 12 18:19:39 dos1: then sth in shr/merge is wrong Oct 12 18:19:57 dos1, sent. Oct 12 18:20:17 mrmoku, they should probably not do that ;) Oct 12 18:20:28 mrmoku, well, I'll look into it tomorrow, or maybe the day after that Oct 12 18:20:33 as I'm terribly tired :) Oct 12 18:20:46 mrmoku, Ainulindale dos1 look at your inbox Oct 12 18:26:03 PaulFertser: for the race to happen you also need timeouts from the battery Oct 12 18:27:30 Heinervdm, atm not Oct 12 18:27:57 playya_: but it's worked on? Oct 12 18:28:12 yes. but's not high prio Oct 12 18:28:26 playya_: what's last buildable rev? Oct 12 18:28:49 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1026537fb9be 10/fsogsmd/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: implement org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.{Get|Set}ServiceCenterNumber() Oct 12 18:28:52 I always built the dbus-hlid branch Oct 12 18:29:09 hmm Oct 12 18:29:10 but fso-glib now uses async which makes it unbuildable Oct 12 18:31:02 TAsn: yeah... me is tired like hell too Oct 12 18:31:06 mrmoku, :) Oct 12 18:31:37 I'm merging dbus-hlid to master and try to fix the build issues Oct 12 18:31:41 could not sleep well due to those threading shit Oct 12 18:34:42 TAsn: 4 is the green circles one? Oct 12 18:35:26 shhhh Oct 12 18:35:28 don't tell Oct 12 18:35:30 but yeah :) Oct 12 18:35:40 asking because the image is numbered differently ;) Oct 12 18:35:52 no it's not. Oct 12 18:35:59 oh yeah. Oct 12 18:36:06 it's the numbering in the wiki page that matters Oct 12 18:41:29 SHR: 03mok 07shr * r4153e64961dd 10/shr-contacts/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am src/contacts-main.c): shr-contacts: adjust to new ophonekitd Oct 12 18:41:40 SHR: 03mok 07shr * r1133ff5644fe 10/shr-messages/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am src/messages-main.c): shr-messages: adjust to new ophonekitd Oct 12 18:43:16 mrmoku, WAIT, the gui daemon already works? :)))) Oct 12 18:44:31 mrmoku, ? :) Oct 12 18:45:54 TAsn: well... partly :) Oct 12 18:46:03 efl2 still needs adjusting Oct 12 18:46:18 and the ui daemon needs some more interfaces Oct 12 18:46:59 but you can already request for lets say, contact list? Oct 12 18:47:00 :) Oct 12 18:47:05 yup Oct 12 18:47:07 :) Oct 12 18:47:29 missing the dialogs and the dialer Oct 12 18:47:31 omg, you rock. :) Oct 12 18:47:36 mrmoku, that's fine Oct 12 18:47:46 it's aready in master? Oct 12 18:47:59 well... no, because I was running in the wrong direction for two days :P Oct 12 18:48:05 not in master Oct 12 18:48:22 mrmoku, so the changes you did in shr-contacts and messages were also done on a branch? Oct 12 18:48:31 yup in the no-async branch Oct 12 18:48:37 i c. Oct 12 18:48:39 cool enough. :) Oct 12 18:49:23 * TAsn is anxiously waiting for a merge :) Oct 12 18:49:29 omg so cool .:) Oct 12 18:49:59 TAsn: btw... the phonui thing can be started via dbus activation... what do you think? :) Oct 12 18:50:12 mrmoku, like fsousage? Oct 12 18:50:15 yup Oct 12 18:50:29 probably fine ;) Oct 12 18:50:52 how does that work? Oct 12 18:51:02 does it just start on first call Oct 12 18:51:03 and stays on? Oct 12 18:51:16 you just have to supply a service file for dbus Oct 12 18:51:18 btw, we need to make two additional frames Oct 12 18:51:29 notifier and shr-today frames Oct 12 18:51:50 and phonelog ;) Oct 12 18:52:09 that's not in the top of our todo, but yeah ;) Oct 12 18:52:18 (/me likes pyphonelog) Oct 12 18:52:22 :P Oct 12 18:52:32 but now for real. Oct 12 18:52:43 notifier and shr-today are really before in our todo Oct 12 18:52:57 as the phonelog somehow works ok Oct 12 18:53:09 notifier barely works Oct 12 18:53:25 and shr-today has issues Oct 12 18:53:37 TAsn: which issues has shr-today? Oct 12 18:53:41 except ugly graphics? :P Oct 12 18:53:47 dos1, ugly graphics Oct 12 18:53:50 and someone reported Oct 12 18:53:51 ;D Oct 12 18:53:55 (I don't remember who) Oct 12 18:54:01 that it prevents the phone from suspending Oct 12 18:54:07 dos1, btw, did you write shr-today?) Oct 12 18:54:33 the mysterious bug reporter claimed it was you. Oct 12 18:54:47 (I don't believe I don't remember who told me about that, it was only yesterday!) Oct 12 18:56:15 TAsn: it suspends fine for me Oct 12 18:56:23 mrmoku, I don't use it, so no idea ;) Oct 12 18:56:30 I have no issues with shr-today (apart from missed calls not being deleted) Oct 12 18:56:30 but someone reported a bug about it yesterday Oct 12 18:56:35 anyhow Oct 12 18:56:42 (which is not shr-todays job anyway) Oct 12 18:57:00 making a notifier Oct 12 18:57:10 What is the lifetime of a query path in opimd contacts? Oct 12 18:57:20 * baruch is starting to work on adding opimd support for web-manager Oct 12 18:57:22 until disposal? Oct 12 18:57:25 or incorporating it into shr-today is in the top of our todo. Oct 12 18:57:34 baruch, I think you need to dispose it Oct 12 18:57:39 otherwise it'll just stay. Oct 12 18:57:41 TAsn: no, i'm not author of shr-today Oct 12 18:57:44 yup incorporating sounds like a good ide :) Oct 12 18:57:46 +a Oct 12 18:57:53 mrmoku, I'm glad :) Oct 12 18:57:55 TAsn: but i worked quite lot on it by few days Oct 12 18:58:08 I really want to make shr-today pop forward Oct 12 18:58:11 when the phone suspends Oct 12 18:58:25 it does all that :) Oct 12 18:58:30 mrmoku, really? Oct 12 18:58:33 it pops in when the screen locks Oct 12 18:58:34 shr-today sounds cool :) Oct 12 18:58:39 it is :D Oct 12 18:58:47 so we really jsut need to write it in c Oct 12 18:58:49 nothing more Oct 12 18:58:52 but actually Oct 12 18:58:53 :) Oct 12 18:58:54 in the weekend Oct 12 18:58:59 I'll finish writing phonegui Oct 12 18:59:02 support for multi backends Oct 12 18:59:02 baruch: query path? over session, until you discard it Oct 12 18:59:14 and then I'll just make a launch app backend :) Oct 12 18:59:14 TAsn: hah... want to see that ;) Oct 12 18:59:21 mrmoku, hehe :) Oct 12 18:59:33 * TAsn meant hopefully Oct 12 18:59:41 I have NO CLUE how to do that (without adding a daemon for each and every one) Oct 12 18:59:54 mrmoku, hehe don't worry. Oct 12 18:59:58 I have an idea. Oct 12 18:59:58 :) Oct 12 19:00:02 you'll see. Oct 12 19:00:07 fine :P Oct 12 19:00:09 * TAsn is too tired to explain it now. Oct 12 19:00:09 ;) Oct 12 19:00:16 this test was a bitch ;) Oct 12 19:00:23 * mrmoku is too tired to understand it ;) Oct 12 19:00:32 hmm, multi-backend Oct 12 19:00:52 what if the session lasts forever, it's a daemon, it never quits, I can just reuse the query path? Oct 12 19:01:01 no overengineering please :;-) Oct 12 19:01:08 baruch, yes. Oct 12 19:01:11 baruch: you should be able, yup Oct 12 19:01:12 spaetz, don't worry Oct 12 19:01:19 it'll be done in a branch Oct 12 19:01:24 (until merged ;] ) Oct 12 19:01:25 spaetz: just megahacking :P Oct 12 19:01:40 (instead of overengineering) Oct 12 19:01:41 ok, saved me a resource leak, I started to implement it as a temporary thing Oct 12 19:01:42 hehe Oct 12 19:02:00 and it does get updated with new contacts being added? Oct 12 19:02:16 baruch, that's an interesting question! Oct 12 19:02:18 dos1, ? Oct 12 19:02:19 :) Oct 12 19:02:44 hmm Oct 12 19:02:50 it should Oct 12 19:03:09 I'll let my users test it for you Oct 12 19:03:14 when new contacts are added it should, i implemented that IIRC Oct 12 19:03:38 but it isn't when contact is deleted or edited Oct 12 19:03:38 as it's unimplemented yet Oct 12 19:03:56 I'm not even sure why you took the approach of this query object Oct 12 19:04:22 seems to me that issuing the query each time would have been better Oct 12 19:04:31 or rather simpler Oct 12 19:05:19 baruch, exactly what I said :) Oct 12 19:05:43 just makes probing amazingly difficult Oct 12 19:05:44 just noticed there is a dispose method... Oct 12 19:05:47 (3 dbus calls) Oct 12 19:05:57 kid is calling me... Oct 12 19:13:37 SHR: 03mok 07shr-specs * r4e2726531390 10/ (12 files in 4 dirs): regenerate Oct 12 19:13:37 SHR: 03mok 07shr-specs * rdbd570051e32 10/ophonekitd/ (Makefile org.shr.ophonekitd.Dialogs.xml.in): add org.shr.ophonekitd.Dialogs Oct 12 19:13:37 SHR: 03mok 07shr-specs * rf9d908498844 10/ophonekitd/org.shr.ophonekitd.CallManagement.xml.in: fill org.shr.ophonekitd.CallManagement with life Oct 12 19:22:13 http://xkcd.com/456/ :DDD Oct 12 19:26:07 dos1: my cousin studies to be an actress Oct 12 20:04:36 TAsn: better? Oct 12 20:04:40 SHR: 03mok 07shr * r2fa42c176f9c 10/ (40 files in 11 dirs): ophonekitd: rename ophonekitd-phonegui to phoneuid Oct 12 20:07:15 ;) Oct 12 20:09:23 WTF Oct 12 20:10:01 my english students book Oct 12 20:10:06 dictionary Oct 12 20:10:13 Accessories: Oct 12 20:10:23 iPod - odtwarzacz MP3 z dyskiem twardym Oct 12 20:10:25 it meands: Oct 12 20:10:36 lol ?:P Oct 12 20:10:40 s/meands/means/ Oct 12 20:10:40 dos1 meant: it means: Oct 12 20:10:41 iPod - MP3 player with hard drive Oct 12 20:10:49 O_o Oct 12 20:10:57 dos1: omg... nice book ;) Oct 12 20:13:13 dos1: oh, i could understand it without translation Oct 12 20:14:51 * dos1 is searching for MacBook in that dictionary (it's a little revision dictionary at the end of book) Oct 12 20:14:53 tomorrow is palm pre out in europe!!! Oct 12 20:15:31 hmm, very useful translation Oct 12 20:15:33 FBI agent - agent FBI Oct 12 20:15:34 ;x Oct 12 20:16:24 mouse? Oct 12 20:26:44 dos1: or CSMA/CD? Oct 12 21:55:18 <__0xEF_> hi.. is there any nmap version built for shr distribution?.. Oct 12 22:00:21 __0xEF_, which machine? Oct 12 22:00:34 __0xEF_, moko phone? Oct 12 22:01:25 __0xEF_, http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=nmap here but ssshhhh Oct 12 22:44:55 hi made a local hack to get ophonekitd /phonegui to build against latest frameworkd http://pastebin.com/f499ff751 Oct 13 00:28:01 mrmoku|away, YOU ROCK! (rename!) Oct 13 00:41:49 TAsn: ??? Oct 13 00:42:19 DocScrutinizer: ??? Oct 13 00:42:34 [02:28] mrmoku|away, YOU ROCK! (rename!) Oct 13 00:42:45 I really should go to bed (it's 2:40 and I'm up at 7:00) Oct 13 00:42:57 DocScrutinizer, sec, I'll show you what I was referring to Oct 13 00:43:04 SHR: mok shr * r2fa42c176f9c / (40 files in 11 dirs): ophonekitd: rename ophonekitd-phonegui to phoneuid Oct 13 00:43:06 :-) Oct 13 00:43:10 :) Oct 13 00:43:18 aah Oct 13 00:43:21 thanks Oct 13 00:43:36 gui will now be available through dbus :) Oct 13 00:43:42 should rock :) Oct 13 00:44:08 TAsn: huh, thought you're different TZ than me Oct 13 00:44:16 DocScrutinizer, I am. Oct 13 00:44:20 I have insomnia Oct 13 00:44:35 I change timezones frequently Oct 13 00:44:43 so it's 2:44 *here* Oct 13 00:45:09 my clock shows 2:44 though for me it's 20:37 Oct 13 00:45:09 :) Oct 13 00:45:26 errr, uhum Oct 13 00:45:34 anyhow, I'm off, let's hope I'll be able to fall asleep in the next hour or two :) Oct 13 00:45:35 night. Oct 13 00:45:43 TAsn: you sound like raster :-P Oct 13 00:45:55 night Oct 13 00:48:03 or like me: for me my private TZ is sth like 23:186 Oct 13 00:48:59 so time for lunch :-P Oct 13 02:58:29 can somebody cat /etc/pointercal Oct 13 02:58:39 doesn't matter what device **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 13 02:59:56 2009