**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 12 02:59:57 2009 Dec 12 07:28:33 mrmoku|away, I'm back now, but I'm doing h.w and will go surfing again in an hour or so. Dec 12 07:28:44 though if you have something *quick* to ask, go ahead. Dec 12 07:29:37 burrp Dec 12 07:31:57 hey raster, a quickie before I go. I see Samsung started using e in their phones (the bada framework) do they contribute code back? Dec 12 07:40:09 Apparantly they do; see Editje and the work that's done right upstream Dec 12 07:40:59 cool. Dec 12 07:41:00 :P Dec 12 07:41:10 TAsn: bada has nothing to do with linux or e Dec 12 07:41:19 raster, really? looks exactly like e. Dec 12 07:41:26 all the widgets and ui concepts. Dec 12 07:41:28 bada is some crappy rtos Dec 12 07:41:29 ignore it Dec 12 07:41:41 we are working with samsung on real linux phones Dec 12 07:41:50 oh cool. :P Dec 12 07:41:52 eta? Dec 12 07:41:56 with real os's, real packaging, real display system, etc. Dec 12 07:41:58 cant tell yoou Dec 12 07:42:00 :) Dec 12 07:42:05 damn you. Dec 12 07:42:07 thar be nda's Dec 12 07:42:11 :P Dec 12 07:42:43 but i have been explicitly told we can say that we work with the samsung mobile platform group doing linux for future products Dec 12 07:42:47 anyhow, having a real os and package managers seems like a good idea. Dec 12 07:42:55 i'm excited :) Dec 12 07:43:05 raster, about the latter I knew. Dec 12 07:43:14 are you allowed to say you are excited? Dec 12 07:43:16 :P Dec 12 07:43:29 yes Dec 12 07:43:40 i cant give u product details, dates and so on Dec 12 07:43:48 i'm j/k... Dec 12 07:43:51 you'll just have to patiently wait for that Dec 12 07:44:07 and probably trust that if i'm excited... it's likely yummy hw. Dec 12 07:44:36 raster, one last teaser, will they call it "the raster phone" ? :P Dec 12 07:44:58 because IIRC you had a nice idea of a raster phone quite some time ago. Dec 12 07:45:58 hehehehe Dec 12 07:46:01 can't say :) Dec 12 07:46:14 wait and see... and drool Dec 12 07:46:15 :) Dec 12 07:46:16 ok, so I guess I'll have to wait. :P Dec 12 07:46:42 unfortunately, it sounds like I'll have to buy that phone :P (and port shr to it, of course) Dec 12 07:47:07 with all the respect to sw, I'm only interested in better hw. Dec 12 07:47:22 understood Dec 12 07:47:30 but, I must say, hearing about samsung making a true linux phone is great :P Dec 12 07:47:35 I'm really happy about it. Dec 12 07:49:06 :) Dec 12 08:03:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r6547f93746ae 10/fsodeviced/ (8 files in 7 dirs): Dec 12 08:03:37 freesmartphone.org: fsodevice: refactor audio player to handle multiple player backends per process Dec 12 08:03:37 freesmartphone.org: add skeleton for gstreamer backend Dec 12 08:32:40 It,s nice to hear samsung finally found linux a worthwile OS for their hw. Not surprising though. For the better hw to drool I have to say the existing hw running real linux doesn't miss any property that samsung is likely to implement any time ever Dec 12 08:35:06 ? Dec 12 08:35:26 didnt quite get that Dec 12 08:37:46 for the let's call it samsung-linux I feel it's more like a bad thing to have yet another 'distro'. Hope they decide to port mer, debian, or even OE (if it's the last option) rather than come up with yet another project Dec 12 08:38:27 wait and see Dec 12 08:38:30 :) Dec 12 08:39:10 sure. and rather calm and unexcited Dec 12 08:47:32 i'd be most unhappy with just "yet another os" Dec 12 08:47:33 :) Dec 12 08:47:41 (for no good reason) Dec 12 08:47:54 btw you all are aware even a open-source driver in plain C is worth next to nothing without the docs about the hw it has to control. Like in - you don't gain much in knowing which proprietary ATcmds are sent via ttySAC0 to a modem Dec 12 08:49:00 "yet another linux-based platform" is bad enough Dec 12 08:49:29 if you think you will get full hw docs... you should know well enouhg about that world to know that you'll be lucky enough to get source Dec 12 08:49:30 :) Dec 12 08:49:51 android is linux-based... will we have android apps running on i.e. SHR anytime soon? Dec 12 08:49:55 just saying Dec 12 08:50:12 Wonka: depends on your meaning of linux Dec 12 08:50:17 in the most strict sense - yes Dec 12 08:50:22 in the common use sense. it isn't Dec 12 08:51:05 i meant the most strict sense. Dec 12 08:51:09 it's not GNU/Linux Dec 12 08:51:35 "Linux is the kernel" Dec 12 08:52:26 thats largely useless as that pretty much fails to specify 98% of usefulness than apps need Dec 12 08:52:29 :) Dec 12 08:52:48 (doesnt tell u a libc - if any, windowing env, all the other bits) Dec 12 08:53:18 yeah. And busybox will qualify it for a not-a-real-linux :f) Dec 12 08:53:21 I *HATE* BUSYBOX! Dec 12 08:53:49 raster: does android use a GNU libc at all? Dec 12 08:54:12 DocScrutinizer: SHR has busybox... Dec 12 08:54:16 I *HATE* BUSYBOX! Dec 12 08:54:23 busybox! Dec 12 08:54:26 I *HATE* BUSYBOX! Dec 12 08:54:35 * Wonka detex a script Dec 12 08:54:42 * Wonka detex a busybox hate script Dec 12 08:54:49 you're sure ? ;-) Dec 12 08:55:00 * Wonka detex a busybox hate script that doesn't trigger on ACTIONs Dec 12 08:55:26 :) Dec 12 08:55:31 by the way: http://pastebin.com/m6d0f3b46 Dec 12 08:56:13 Wonka: no. Dec 12 08:56:19 anyway. Missing decent shell is a more precise definition of a sufficient 'not a real linux' criterion Dec 12 08:56:38 android has nothing vaguely gnu or linux in userspace Dec 12 08:56:53 DocScrutinizer51: busybox isnt bad Dec 12 08:57:06 if built and configured right Dec 12 08:57:14 *sighs* Dec 12 08:57:28 raster: but it's linux-kernel-based and therefore my claim that "yet another linux-based platform" was bad enough still holds ;) Dec 12 08:57:29 at least it has cp.... unlike androoid! Dec 12 08:57:31 android Dec 12 08:57:46 Wonka: i dont call it linux Dec 12 08:57:53 as the common usage of linux is not just the kernel Dec 12 08:58:16 u will find the majority of references to "linux" on the web mean gnu/linux Dec 12 08:58:26 raster: ok, let's call it "yet another platform built on a linux kernel" Dec 12 08:58:31 sure Dec 12 08:58:34 that i accept :) Dec 12 08:58:54 anyway, i'd like to have shr-unstable build again - what's that error message in http://pastebin.com/m6d0f3b46 all about? Dec 12 09:05:11 raster: busybox is a PITA no matter how it's configured. You always have a 'almost compatible' set of essential commands and you never know when it shoots your back. Try 'su' with busybox :-/ Dec 12 09:05:38 a nightmare Dec 12 09:05:47 u just install a real su Dec 12 09:05:56 thats a special case thanks to being suid Dec 12 09:08:16 so following this concept I end up with that crappybox PLUS almost all the standard tools installed in parallel. What's the use of that crook themn? Dec 12 09:08:45 i've neever replaced the bb tools Dec 12 09:08:51 so i have a totally different experience Dec 12 09:08:55 i've found them to be sufficient Dec 12 09:09:24 so you never use less, or find? Dec 12 09:09:40 or nice Dec 12 09:09:50 or netstat Dec 12 09:09:58 or or or Dec 12 09:10:39 find i use Dec 12 09:10:42 or top Dec 12 09:10:54 i just switch to more on devices Dec 12 09:11:00 top is minimal but enough for me Dec 12 09:11:07 find works fine Dec 12 09:11:13 sure - it doesnt have all the options Dec 12 09:11:13 nope Dec 12 09:11:14 i dotn sse them Dec 12 09:11:15 dont Dec 12 09:12:02 its a device Dec 12 09:12:19 i dont expect the full complimeent of every unxi cmd-line tool ever Dec 12 09:12:22 and to have all options Dec 12 09:12:29 busybox is sufficient imho Dec 12 09:13:00 for whatever you expect on your devixe. it might suffice Dec 12 09:22:36 <[Rui]> morning! Dec 12 09:48:28 Wonka http://lists.projects.openmoko.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2008-December/000480.html Dec 12 09:53:22 von__fritz: thx Dec 12 10:00:08 There's a python application (advanced geocaching), I submitted patches for (that are not yet committed) and I wonder if it's automatically build for SHR or not. Dec 12 10:00:33 I didn't find any bb recipe so I don't think so. Dec 12 10:01:02 How can I get this app to have a bb recipe. There seem to be a setup.py Dec 12 10:01:47 dvermd: it's in recipes/openmoko-3rdparty/ Dec 12 10:01:52 so it's there Dec 12 10:02:31 ok, I'll wait for my patches to be committed then and work on others Dec 12 10:02:44 Heinervdm, thx Dec 12 10:05:30 Heinervdm, should the reciepe be updated each time a new code version is released ? Dec 12 10:06:05 dvermd: there SRCREV needs to be bumped Dec 12 10:06:06 got a problem Dec 12 10:06:25 i have an sms which always reappears after reboot Dec 12 10:06:25 any ideas? ^^ Dec 12 10:07:06 the message-gui breaks after deleting it, but optical it seems beeing deleted (until reboot) ^^ Dec 12 10:07:53 i thin that message was sendet on updating ^^ Dec 12 10:07:58 +think Dec 12 10:08:21 ok, I'll check the installed version and who should I ask to bum this SRCREV if it's out of sync ? Packages says version 0.1.2 and code is 0.4.2 Dec 12 10:09:08 dvermd: the part after the svnr is the SVN revision, that's the important part Dec 12 10:10:07 can you give me the full path to the receipe please ? and it's on git repo is SVN tag use for this one too ? Dec 12 10:11:26 dvermd: oh it's gitr Dec 12 10:11:28 http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/openmoko-3rdparty/advancedcaching_git.bb?id=fb775893cb35b709d20af1afaeb13bbeb5ee4abf Dec 12 10:12:21 dvermd: and rev is: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc?id=fb775893cb35b709d20af1afaeb13bbeb5ee4abf#n15 Dec 12 10:13:22 it's the latest rev Dec 12 10:13:31 Heinervdm, yes, it is Dec 12 10:14:06 Heinervdm, someoe bumped it, maybe the agtl guy Dec 12 10:14:42 agtl? Dec 12 10:15:15 Heinervdm, advanced geocaching tool Dec 12 10:15:56 dvermd: no, thats bumped only by us Dec 12 10:16:07 Heinervdm, the bb should be updated to show 0.4.2. and not 0.1.2 before the git version, that's confusing Dec 12 10:16:33 Heinervdm, so you did your job, reat Dec 12 10:16:41 great ! Dec 12 10:17:11 everyone does a great job ;) Dec 12 10:17:38 :-) Dec 12 10:19:14 Heinervdm, how do you kmow there's a new revision of an app ? do you monitor them or do you wait until the bpp maintainer tells you so ? Dec 12 10:20:17 dvermd: we don't monitor it. we will bump it if someone tells us, or we recognice it on our self Dec 12 10:20:50 normally there is a mail from the author on the community ML Dec 12 10:23:20 Heinervdm, ok, i'l wait and go with my own deployment with my patches for now. thx Dec 12 10:23:52 dvermd: did you sent you patches per mail, or did you just open a ticket on that page? Dec 12 10:24:21 I send patches to him by mail Dec 12 10:24:32 I didnqt get your url Dec 12 10:24:49 there was no url :) Dec 12 10:25:08 mail is good Dec 12 10:25:10 Heinervdm,ok, so on which page ? Dec 12 10:25:25 the opkg one ? Dec 12 10:25:27 http://github.com/webhamster/advancedcaching/issues Dec 12 10:26:08 i made the experience that mail is much faster then tickets in such small projects ;) Dec 12 10:26:12 Heinervdm, this issue is closed in shr bb receipe Dec 12 10:27:11 the guy doesn't have the time to commit patches or ansmer all my mails Dec 12 10:28:18 If he commits my patches I may ask him the commit rights Dec 12 10:28:21 hmm, commiting a patch doesn't need so much time... Dec 12 10:28:53 I know but reviewing and testing them may even if there weren't that big Dec 12 10:29:24 ok, that's right, so just wait till he has more time Dec 12 10:30:51 yes Dec 12 11:05:07 <[Rui]> it seems sizing of entries has been fixed in EFl Dec 12 11:20:46 I am getting a failure building eglibc ... Dec 12 11:20:50 configure: error: C preprocessor "arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-gcc -E" fails sanity check Dec 12 11:20:54 any hints? Dec 12 11:27:50 BillK_: esaiest way is rebuild from scratch Dec 12 11:28:04 OUCH! Dec 12 11:28:13 too big a change? Dec 12 11:28:23 don't know what changed Dec 12 11:29:02 not a drama ... take it just rm tmp and thats all thats needed? Dec 12 11:29:17 yes Dec 12 11:30:44 tkx Dec 12 11:55:03 Hi Dec 12 11:55:55 i've got some problems cross-compiling an app can anyone help me ? Dec 12 11:57:52 i tried to configure the src by typing ./configure --host arm4t Dec 12 11:59:01 but the configure script cant find Theora although libtheora-dev is installed via opkg-target Dec 12 12:02:11 can someone please help me ? Dec 12 12:10:15 you might have to change PKG_CONFIG_PATH to point to your libs Dec 12 12:10:22 or rather, the .pc files Dec 12 12:10:38 The Openmoko toolchain contains a setenv variable for things like htat Dec 12 12:10:44 might want to take a peek in there Dec 12 12:10:52 or use a full fledged build system Dec 12 12:10:59 such as build root, openembedded, ptxdist etc. Dec 12 12:19:52 okay, thanks Dec 12 12:20:59 okay, problem solved i set the path to the theora headers with the "--with-theora=" Dec 12 12:21:23 paramete of the config script Dec 12 12:24:33 right, explicitly pointing to it should work as well Dec 12 12:25:25 how can i make screenshots of the moko-screen? ^^ Dec 12 12:25:36 made an german keyboard, want to public it Dec 12 12:25:48 Hardy: gpe-scap Dec 12 12:25:57 thanks Heinervdm Dec 12 12:27:49 german keyboard is a good idea :) Dec 12 12:27:57 * mickeyl sends a couple of öäüß Dec 12 12:28:56 yeah Dec 12 12:29:28 but on writing an sms the font wont have those "german sightns" xD Dec 12 12:29:40 in python-script they would be showed Dec 12 12:33:51 hey, there is another problem, it now compiles but there are many warnings like that "warning: comparison is always false due to limited range of data type" Dec 12 12:34:37 the code to that is : if (Option==-1 && MAIL==-1) MainLoop(); Dec 12 12:34:43 Option is a char Dec 12 12:35:58 on my x64 ubuntu it compiles without that warning Dec 12 12:37:17 different architectures may have different sizes for the intrinsic datatypes Dec 12 12:37:33 could be an upstream bug Dec 12 12:38:06 hmm okay, and how can I fix that ? Dec 12 12:40:19 i think it wont work if i just replace char with integer Dec 12 12:42:13 hmm Dec 12 12:42:15 signed char? Dec 12 12:42:22 or just int8 Dec 12 12:44:20 ah signed char, okay, as i come from the java development i didn't know there is a signed charanyway :-) Dec 12 12:53:23 signed char is quite nonsense anyway ;-) Dec 12 12:54:55 DocScrutinizer51: except on arm... where some galoot decided to just be different and make chars unsigned by default Dec 12 12:54:56 :) Dec 12 12:55:48 well a char can,t have a sign. Dec 12 12:56:07 the problem is people stating they want a char when they really want an int8 Dec 12 12:56:18 I'm just frowning on the name Dec 12 12:56:33 mickeyl: exactly Dec 12 12:57:22 on a strict typechecking lang this would never fly Dec 12 12:57:36 DocScrutinizer51: well int is singed by default Dec 12 12:57:39 short is signed Dec 12 12:57:45 so.. by logic.. char should also be signed Dec 12 12:58:03 and thats the case on other archs Dec 12 12:58:07 not arm Dec 12 12:58:09 :/ Dec 12 12:58:23 no. there,s no such thing like negative "A" Dec 12 12:58:36 there is no such thing as an int8 Dec 12 12:58:45 well not originally Dec 12 12:58:53 u had char, short, int, long, etc. Dec 12 12:59:01 that,s another issue Dec 12 12:59:20 and as such signed char is convenient Dec 12 12:59:34 in ascii > 0 == valid ascii < 0 == not ascii Dec 12 12:59:48 and it's consistent with short and int being signed Dec 12 13:00:06 as such 'a' tho is not a char and char is not an 'a' Dec 12 13:00:27 a is gthe resultant output of an encoding system interpreting a value within the ascii range Dec 12 13:00:31 doesnt have to be a char Dec 12 13:00:38 can be an int or a short or... one of many things Dec 12 13:00:39 L( Dec 12 13:01:51 so i have to change the type from char to int8 where needed ? Dec 12 13:02:23 basically a type of a character-var should b an enum Dec 12 13:03:26 that even might change internal representation wth collating sequence Dec 12 13:03:46 by the way this is not my own source i just try to port my favorite-dos era game to the moko since it is open source Dec 12 13:04:21 DocScrutinizer51: but it isnt Dec 12 13:04:28 well ok Dec 12 13:04:35 it entirely depends how you look at it Dec 12 13:04:43 yep. due to historical reasons Dec 12 13:04:54 as such traditionally test is stored as asciit strings which have 8 bits (1 byte) per hcaracter Dec 12 13:05:04 and as such in the world of c - char maps to that nicely Dec 12 13:05:21 char is ALSO the only 8 bit data type Dec 12 13:05:33 int8/uint8 are just typedefs in a header Dec 12 13:05:38 its not actually core Dec 12 13:05:57 that's prolly why ritchie missed to have a type 'byte' Dec 12 13:07:08 as I said. in a decent strict typedef lang this would never have happened Dec 12 13:08:07 C is a evil hacker tool ;-D Dec 12 13:09:29 MUHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA Dec 12 13:09:37 * raster rubs his hands together in glee Dec 12 13:11:12 :D Dec 12 13:16:27 hmm, it seems everything in this program is made with chars O.o Dec 12 13:16:41 it depends what they are used for Dec 12 13:16:48 and what the intent was Dec 12 13:17:03 it doesnt necessarily matter signed vs unsigned as you only use a sub-range of the type Dec 12 13:17:19 (eg only 0 or 1 as a value or values <= 127 and >= 0) Dec 12 13:17:50 i know, i've got the same problem with unsigned and signed bytes in c# and java Dec 12 13:18:39 :) Dec 12 13:18:56 it is a shame some silly person decided to "be different with what a char iss Dec 12 13:19:03 but... it is whhat it is now Dec 12 13:19:16 its actually only bitten me once or twice Dec 12 13:19:26 i keep it in mind these days Dec 12 13:19:27 :) Dec 12 13:19:30 "Standards are great, everyone should have one"... ;-) Dec 12 13:19:48 hahahahahah Dec 12 13:20:01 * raster gets back to improving e.org Dec 12 13:22:06 hmm now he warns me that strcpy may have problems, with signed chars Dec 12 13:22:15 can i ignore that ? Dec 12 13:26:13 eh? Dec 12 13:26:16 strcpy wont care Dec 12 13:27:07 okay, thanks Dec 12 13:36:34 hi all Dec 12 13:36:45 raster: what can you tell me about illume2? Dec 12 13:38:29 pbaxter: pants Dec 12 13:39:10 raster: what do you mean? Dec 12 13:39:49 thats what i can tell you Dec 12 13:39:50 :) Dec 12 13:41:24 hello Dec 12 13:41:58 Any one here who can answer and Elementary question? Dec 12 13:42:14 raster, http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/465 BAH! :P Dec 12 13:44:51 added my keyboard: http://www.opkg.org/package_314.html Dec 12 13:45:03 TAsn: i'm tempted to close it Dec 12 13:45:20 ewekbit stuff already scrolls and more Dec 12 13:45:29 gustavo and co just have it all in private git repos Dec 12 13:45:34 precisely why i feckin HATe git Dec 12 13:45:54 raster, so the code is there? Dec 12 13:46:49 yes Dec 12 13:47:00 tho the way they did it - its entirely done in webkit Dec 12 13:47:13 not using somethng like elm's scroller as thats universal and can sscroll anything around Dec 12 13:50:45 hello Dec 12 13:50:54 what is this: Dec 12 13:50:54 hi kahlb Dec 12 13:50:57 * Failed to extract control file from /tmp/opkg-Dj4qsk/unstable Dec 12 13:51:23 this appears when I try to install advanced geocaching tool in shr-testing (latest) Dec 12 13:56:21 no idea? Dec 12 13:56:43 this is one of the most important software for me... Dec 12 13:58:24 raster, when do they plan to commit it? :P Dec 12 14:01:58 commit wekbit? Dec 12 14:02:01 i dont know Dec 12 14:02:05 i'm not working on it Dec 12 14:02:07 i cant tell u Dec 12 14:02:10 <|Fate|> wheres the discover me setting in shr, when using manual bluetooth? Dec 12 14:02:12 ask gustavoi Dec 12 14:02:15 (k-s) Dec 12 14:02:56 TAsn: how is the clock in idle screen supposed to work? Dec 12 14:03:05 mrmoku, edje magic Dec 12 14:03:13 missing edje magic then ;) Dec 12 14:03:24 or at least that's what slyon claims Dec 12 14:03:33 hi TAsn Dec 12 14:03:38 sorry I don't have much time Dec 12 14:03:42 daniele_athome, hey. Dec 12 14:03:47 I'll reply you by memoserv :D Dec 12 14:03:58 daniele_athome, I don't even remember what I memoed you about :P Dec 12 14:04:22 I just remember it was something important. Dec 12 14:04:31 so please reply and maybe include some info. Dec 12 14:04:33 or better yet Dec 12 14:04:34 TAsn, about my phone stack Dec 12 14:04:37 :D Dec 12 14:04:38 lol Dec 12 14:04:40 oh, right. :P Dec 12 14:04:44 just use email Dec 12 14:04:49 tom @<#"$#@P@#$PCHHPC<> stosb.com Dec 12 14:05:31 anyone? how do i set bluetooth to be discoverable? Dec 12 14:06:15 F4t: via dbus call me thinks Dec 12 14:06:17 ehm Dec 12 14:06:29 ok username tom Dec 12 14:06:30 mrmoku, no settings option? Dec 12 14:06:32 domain stosb.com? Dec 12 14:06:35 :S Dec 12 14:06:36 yes :P Dec 12 14:06:42 I thought that looks obvious :P Dec 12 14:06:50 F4t: as far as I remember bluez is completely dbus only... Dec 12 14:07:15 :D Dec 12 14:07:20 there was a feature once, in settings to do that.... where did it go? Dec 12 14:07:54 dunno Dec 12 14:08:02 okie shower. :P Dec 12 14:08:14 monstrous waves Dec 12 14:08:32 even wickeder tiredness Dec 12 14:08:40 even crazier h.w :P Dec 12 14:08:55 TAsn: what is the reasoning behind taking a shower _before_ jumping onto the waves? :P Dec 12 14:09:09 it's not before, it's after. Dec 12 14:09:15 I went surfing 5 hrs ago Dec 12 14:09:18 just came back. Dec 12 14:10:50 raster, can't find his nick, what's his email address? Dec 12 14:11:13 TAsn: ahh :P Dec 12 14:11:15 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri Dec 12 14:11:22 thanks Dec 12 14:13:47 raster, okie, sent him an email :P Dec 12 14:13:50 now, shower. Dec 12 14:19:36 quick stop Dec 12 14:19:38 A man is smoking a cigarette. Some girl becomes irritated with the smoke and says, “Can’t you see the warning on the cigarette pack? Smoking is hazardous to your health!” Dec 12 14:19:38 The man blows the smoke rings on her face, “Baby, I am a c programmer. I dont give a shit about warnings” Dec 12 14:19:40 LOL Dec 12 14:20:55 hehe Dec 12 14:24:36 mrmoku, jokes aside, if you'll start ignoring warnings i'll kill you :P Dec 12 14:25:08 j/k, I won't kill you, I'll just switch to -Werror (as we already want to do:P ) Dec 12 14:32:06 TAsn: actually... I was thinking about doing that for phonefsod ;) Dec 12 14:32:16 (switching to Werror... not ignoring :P) Dec 12 14:46:55 mrmoku, don't forget to also add Wall and Wextra Dec 12 15:43:47 Slyon_: hey, time for a small question? Dec 12 15:43:57 mrmoku: yep Dec 12 15:44:05 Slyon_: should time already work? Dec 12 15:44:50 (via edje in idle screen) Dec 12 15:45:11 mrmoku: yes, should work, i tested the edje in my edje test launcher and it works Dec 12 15:45:18 hmm Dec 12 15:45:21 does not work for me Dec 12 15:45:25 what could be the problem? Dec 12 15:45:25 doesn't it work on the moko? Dec 12 15:45:28 mrmoku, try git pull :P Dec 12 15:45:28 no Dec 12 15:45:58 dos1, what about syncing opimd with master? Dec 12 15:46:20 I beta tested your crappy sw, and it works :P Dec 12 15:46:39 TAsn: no... I'm up-to-date Dec 12 15:46:45 mrmoku: hmm it has to be inited by idle-view.c Dec 12 15:46:51 ahh Dec 12 15:46:53 how? Dec 12 15:46:59 but there is a signal for that in the code Dec 12 15:47:09 Slyon_, signal for that is removed. :P Dec 12 15:47:17 TAsn: really? Dec 12 15:47:22 that could be the problem then Dec 12 15:47:30 yeah, signal for time sucks :P Dec 12 15:47:44