**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 29 02:59:57 2009 Dec 29 03:50:55 Who is at 26c3? Dec 29 03:51:51 * larsc <- Dec 29 05:12:09 Hi , Can other software maps be used with tangoGPS ? Dec 29 12:18:13 does anyone maintain a package of useful phone numbers (like 'balance enquiry') for all different providers and countries? Dec 29 12:19:27 wookey_: I'm afraid not, USSD info is spread around the various websites. I'd love to see a centralized database such as mobile-broadband-provider-info Dec 29 12:22:57 mickeyl: OK, well Toby-churchill would like to start a project for this if there isn't one already Dec 29 12:23:34 I'd loike to talk to people who have some understanding of how best to index/categorise entries Dec 29 12:24:09 e.g. is by 'network-name' sufficient? Dec 29 12:24:29 We need to make a list but it's clearly the sort of thing that is best maintained collaboratively Dec 29 12:24:39 mickeyl, sorry for yesterday I was in a hurry :) Dec 29 12:29:53 mickeyl, we were saying about efl bindings, using compact classes right? Dec 29 12:30:02 for binding event structs, I mean... Dec 29 12:34:44 yeah, try compact classes or classes Dec 29 12:40:39 i guess noone tried to update GSM firmware of a GT001, right? :D Dec 29 12:40:47 * mickeyl is about to try that Dec 29 12:40:54 now lets compile fluid x86 first... Dec 29 12:42:27 I have a vague memory of someone trying that maybe.. Dec 29 12:42:49 the firmware i have there is pre-moko1 Dec 29 12:42:57 so it definitely needs an update before i work with it Dec 29 12:43:03 eek Dec 29 12:43:04 fun Dec 29 12:43:09 AT+CGMR Dec 29 12:43:12 Dec 29 12:43:12 OK Dec 29 12:43:13 :D Dec 29 12:43:44 i don't think there are more than 5 or 6 GT001 in the world anyways Dec 29 12:43:51 i'm actually surprised that it still works Dec 29 12:44:06 but it might become handy for my finishing fsogsmd Dec 29 12:46:13 alphaone: can you ask Stefan whether he build a version of fluid for x86 ever? Dec 29 12:46:15 wpwrak: ping Dec 29 12:46:19 mickeyl: i think there are more than 5-6 ;) Dec 29 12:46:31 really? Dec 29 12:46:38 i don't think so Dec 29 12:46:38 yeap ;) Dec 29 12:46:52 OK, turns out we have a reasonable list already in xml form. I'll put that up for comment. I presume a page on the openmoko wiki is as good a place as any? Dec 29 12:47:00 wookey_: sure thing Dec 29 12:47:03 mickeyl: mmh ? Dec 29 12:47:06 mickeyl: maybe not in use but it should ;) Dec 29 12:47:23 wpwrak: you ever built a fluid for linux/x86? i have a GT001 which I'd like to flash to moko12 Dec 29 12:47:27 ~seen dos1 Dec 29 12:47:30 dos1 was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 1d 20h 41m 11s ago, saying: 'yup, at least that's what i suppose ;)'. Dec 29 12:47:49 soltys: hmmm, GT001 != GTA01, right? Dec 29 12:48:48 maybe ;) Dec 29 12:49:15 mickeyl: hmm, yes, i think i did. when testing the cables for dieter Dec 29 12:49:20 but why only 5-6 devices should be in the world ;] Dec 29 12:49:28 what on earth is a GT001 ? Dec 29 12:49:29 wpwrak: awesome, would you still have that one laying around or know how to build? Dec 29 12:49:32 is someone with buildhost access alive here? Dec 29 12:49:38 GT001 is a GSM Evaluation board with a TI Calypso Dec 29 12:49:41 * JaMa needs log from navit-icons build Dec 29 12:49:51 mickeyl: i think it was just "make" ;-) lemme check ... Dec 29 12:50:01 JaMa: aren't they on tinderbox? Dec 29 12:50:50 well Dec 29 12:50:58 the makefile is configured for MSCC Dec 29 12:51:07 mickey@opal:/local/pkg/openmoko/internal/trunk/fluid$ make Dec 29 12:51:07 cl /DOS=WIN32 /DTARGET=0 /DMSC=1 /W2 /Yd /nologo /Od /MD /Zi /Ipc /I/Include /c pc/fileio.c /Fopc/fileio.obj Dec 29 12:51:07 make: cl: Kommando nicht gefunden Dec 29 12:51:49 cd svn.internal.openmoko.org/trunk/fluid/pc && make Dec 29 12:52:18 ooh Dec 29 12:52:20 the 'pc' directory Dec 29 12:52:31 awesome, here we are Dec 29 12:52:35 mickeyl: (calypso evil board) wow. a rarity indeed :) Dec 29 12:52:43 indeed Dec 29 12:53:07 ok, let's see whether we can flash it w/ moko11 Dec 29 12:53:57 Heinervdm: seems like only when task fail.. I need log from successfull one :/ Dec 29 12:54:09 JaMa: ah, ok Dec 29 12:54:09 http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/386534/ Dec 29 12:54:36 mickeyl, good it's working ;) Dec 29 12:56:49 hmm Dec 29 12:56:51 ok, wrong UART Dec 29 12:56:55 it's not ttySAC0 of course Dec 29 12:57:03 how can i submit /dev/ttyUSB0... Dec 29 12:58:59 perhaps FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttyUSB0 ./fluid ... Dec 29 12:59:58 yup, that should do the trick Dec 29 13:04:24 hmm, ok, it opens the device Dec 29 13:04:29 but does not detect a reset Dec 29 13:04:38 sitting in (reset target) Dec 29 13:04:39 hmm Dec 29 13:08:18 hah! Dec 29 13:08:22 powercycling the whole thing Dec 29 13:08:25 then holding reset Dec 29 13:08:31 now it's programming... Dec 29 13:08:45 someone using garmin maps on freerunner? Dec 29 13:09:02 like those on http://gpsmapsearch.com/ ? Dec 29 13:11:26 at+cgmr Dec 29 13:11:26 +CGMR: "GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko11" Dec 29 13:11:28 :D Dec 29 13:17:05 mickeyl: congratulations ! Dec 29 13:25:05 now i just need to buy another external GSM antenna, since the GT001 has no internal one Dec 29 13:25:25 and then i can finish the fsogsmd's TI Calypso plugin without the FR Dec 29 13:37:02 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r9376789c1221 10/fsogsmd/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Dec 29 13:37:02 freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: prepare for lowlevel plugins; lowlevel plugins cross the gap between the Dec 29 13:37:02 freesmartphone.org: (somewhat generic) modem plugins and the (device specific) vendor specifics, such Dec 29 13:37:02 freesmartphone.org: as how to properly power on the modem and put it into AT mode. Add lowlevel_openmoko Dec 29 13:37:05 freesmartphone.org: in order to remove the openmoko-specific code out of the TI Calypso plugin. Dec 29 13:45:05 mickeyl, evas patch for the next year ;) Dec 29 13:45:09 bye! happy new yea Dec 29 13:45:10 *year Dec 29 13:48:42 max_posedon: Here? Dec 29 14:00:44 and - is there some other alternative to zhone? Dec 29 14:23:50 mickeyl: why, you don't like the FR? Dec 29 14:24:48 mickeyl: hey :) can you please give me chanserv op at #openmoko ? Dec 29 14:26:14 alphaone: ping? what are your thoughts on forking UBX parsing from ogpsd to a form some sort of a python-ubx library? Dec 29 14:27:05 alphaone: (I'm not asking you to change anything in ogpsd, just asking what your thoughts are on forking the code to form a library that can be used as a library) Dec 29 14:27:54 lindi-: My thought (and I sort of started that already ages ago) is to fork that into a C library Dec 29 14:28:28 <|_0xEF|> hi.. can anyone give me a hint please.. I installed SHR rootfs (Dec 18), kernel+modules (Dec 06). I booted SHR and tried to connect it via USB. It has VID 0000 and PID 0000 and I cannot connect to it via USB :( Do I have to upgrade my bootloader to be able to use USB?... Dec 29 14:28:33 alphaone: ok, even better :) Dec 29 14:29:03 alphaone: i tried to get FixNow(tm) work but failed, got any strace logs of a successful case? Dec 29 14:30:09 <|_0xEF|> maybe I have to load some kernel module? Dec 29 14:30:20 <|_0xEF|> Or set up the correct VID&PID somewhere?.. Dec 29 14:30:23 |_0xEF|: hm, g_ether? Dec 29 14:30:36 |_0xEF|: and paste here your /proc/cmdline Dec 29 14:30:57 lindi-: I never exhaustively played with FixNow Dec 29 14:31:15 |_0xEF|: i think i know the source of your problem btw, that's because your "factory" partition is trashed. Dec 29 14:31:17 * Treo_Walker always wanted cmdline full of nasty words for such occasion Dec 29 14:36:39 <|_0xEF|> cat /proc/cmdline (typing instead of copy-pasting): rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 console=ttySAC2,115200 console=tty0 loglevel=8 regular_boot glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=5000000 rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 bootdelay=5 mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x00040000(u-boot),0x00040000(u-boot_env),0x00800000(kernel),0x000a0000(splash),0x00040000(factory),0x0f6a0000(rootfs) ro Dec 29 14:38:02 |_0xEF|: hm, are you sure that it's VID/PID that's 0 and not MAC? I think i misintepreted your question. Dec 29 14:38:38 |_0xEF|: you should check your dmesg and make sure g_ether is loaded. Dec 29 14:38:40 <|_0xEF|> USB works on Om2008.12 when I boot it from NAND. It fails to work with my SHR I installed today.. Yes, my USB VID/PID are 0's in SHR Dec 29 14:38:59 |_0xEF|: weird, check dmesg for interesting things wrt g_ether. Dec 29 14:40:14 <|_0xEF|> g_ether: using random self ethernet address. Ethernet Gadtget; Version: Memorial Day 2008. g_ether ready Dec 29 14:43:47 <|_0xEF|> I rebooted it and it started to work. Sorry for disturbing )) Dec 29 14:46:13 mickeyl, did a call with gsmhandset state I passed you yeterday, the other part told me my voice is heard better ;) Dec 29 14:46:53 Hey there. which shr version and branch should I choose if I'm looking for stability? pl Dec 29 14:47:08 shr/testing2009 Dec 29 14:48:21 who can I ask about fso debian repository? Dec 29 15:14:52 <|_0xEF|> Is remoko from SHR testing repository supposed to work?.. Dec 29 15:15:44 <|_0xEF|> It's nice to have remoko in repository :) but... it does not even start. Dec 29 15:48:11 heya! anyone else experinecing missing ring and sms tone after some time? (no ticket exists... i suspect i am the only one) Dec 29 16:40:18 OK, I've added a page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_provider_numbers_and_useful_codes covering the existing info and the sort of info we'd like to see added, some links to relevant discussion and some queries about whether anyone sees reasons for simply not adding more data to the mobile-broadband-providers-info to make it the more generic mobile-provider-info Dec 29 16:40:37 I guess I should circulate an email, but if anyone sees glaring things to change feel free to comment Dec 29 16:43:29 wookey_: awesome, great start. I think we should host that on freesmartphone.org Dec 29 16:43:36 (in code) Dec 29 16:43:46 but lets use the wiki page to gather some more ideas and critical mass before doing that Dec 29 16:46:37 i also talked to the mobile broadband provider info folks Dec 29 16:46:56 they would not oppose to adding MCC and MNC and provider that do not offer mobile broadband Dec 29 16:47:17 so that we can at least collaborate with them towards a global mcc/mnc -> provider db Dec 29 17:06:59 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra121816c0572 10/fsogsmd/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: move openmoko-specific code out of modem_ti_calypso into lowlevel_openmoko Dec 29 17:19:49 TAsn, phoneui-messages stops working when adding a 2nd contact to message Dec 29 17:20:12 what do you mean by "stops working"? Dec 29 17:21:06 TAsn, when I press the button "add contact" to add a 2nd destinatary, the contact list shows up, but when I try to make the index appear or move the list, all the GUI just dissapears Dec 29 17:21:11 so I suppouse it crashes Dec 29 17:21:19 yes Dec 29 17:21:23 there's already a bug about that Dec 29 17:21:25 I can't see anything on logs Dec 29 17:21:29 TAsn, ah, ok ;) Dec 29 17:21:32 (using index too soon) Dec 29 17:21:48 mickeyl: OK, cheers Dec 29 17:21:52 TAsn, so it may work just waiting some time for the list to finish? Dec 29 17:21:59 pespin, yes. Dec 29 17:22:01 works here. Dec 29 17:30:29 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7a9c8800a5da 10/libfsoframework/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: yank traces of frameworkd.conf; we now use $binary.conf for everything Dec 29 17:51:34 Ainulindale, dos1: gimme trac theme! Dec 29 17:51:41 Ainulindale: ping :P Dec 29 17:52:12 Ainulindale, ping (command issued by dos) Dec 29 17:52:14 TAsn: tried shr all day :) Dec 29 17:52:21 ajafo, works? :P Dec 29 17:52:23 dos1: you said, you're having some patches for me? Dec 29 17:52:29 TAsn: almost ;P Dec 29 17:52:37 ajafo, I generally don't lie :P Dec 29 17:52:39 ajafo, what doesn't? Dec 29 17:53:13 TAsn: 2 strange situations today with call Dec 29 17:53:39 Heinervdm: all of them are already on maillist Dec 29 17:53:44 and patchwork Dec 29 17:53:46 ;) Dec 29 17:54:04 Heinervdm: 600-604 Dec 29 17:54:11 ajafo, which are? :P Dec 29 17:54:30 no need to be so cryptic :) Dec 29 17:54:47 1st someone call to me i saw buttons but only 1 sec - phone still call i want to answer and i see screensaver so tried unlock Dec 29 17:55:17 and i saw desktop but nothing else, and after 3-5 sec phone stop calling Dec 29 17:55:21 dos1: i've written sth to webkit-efl, but i'm not interested in the other packages ;) Dec 29 17:55:38 Heinervdm: i just want someone to commit them :P Dec 29 17:55:44 Heinervdm: as mrmoku is offline :P Dec 29 17:56:04 ajafo, and 2nd? Dec 29 17:56:05 dos1: i have no commit right ;) so you have to ask JaMa or spaetz Dec 29 17:56:09 oooh Dec 29 17:56:19 i thought you have :x Dec 29 17:56:24 so JaMa or spaetz: ping :D Dec 29 17:56:26 no :) Dec 29 17:56:27 1st seems weird :P No idea how to even handle that atm. Dec 29 17:56:56 anyhow, gtg :( Dec 29 17:57:02 brb in an hour. Dec 29 17:57:23 and 2nd i called to friend and after few signals i heard answer machine ok so pressed release saw desktop, and after few minutes i hear some voice it was answer machine that there is no free place to record Dec 29 17:57:46 on phone i saw only desktop with icons at this time Dec 29 18:05:59 dos1: pong Dec 29 18:06:24 ah I see Dec 29 18:06:30 :) Dec 29 18:07:21 why do we need 600-601 for shr/merge? Dec 29 18:07:44 if I watched carefully enough shr-installer was never built without SRCPV in feeds.. Dec 29 18:08:29 ah why there is SRCREV in that patch :/ Dec 29 18:09:35 dos1: its not against shr/merge or srcpv branch Dec 29 18:11:43 JaMa: aaaaah Dec 29 18:11:57 JaMa: well, they are against org.oe.dev Dec 29 18:12:18 JaMa: but old shr-installer was with -gitr, and new with +gitr Dec 29 18:12:25 JaMa: or another way ;) Dec 29 18:13:14 dos1: cannot we just bump PV a bit instead of PE? Dec 29 18:24:01 JaMa: ok then ;) Dec 29 18:26:43 dos1: 0.0.2? Dec 29 18:30:28 JaMa: ok Dec 29 18:34:16 dos1: didn't push 604 now.. as TAsn and Heinervdm seem to not like it as much.. Dec 29 18:34:28 JaMa: ok, thanks Dec 29 18:35:47 you're welcome Dec 29 18:36:24 dos1: you have access to buildhost right? Dec 29 18:36:39 JaMa: yup Dec 29 18:36:50 * JaMa needs log from navit-icons build Dec 29 18:37:54 dos1: do_compile log from this http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/386534/ Dec 29 18:46:30 pong Dec 29 18:46:46 haven´t read backlog yet Dec 29 18:47:12 and i haven´t touched my laptop for a week either.... Dec 29 19:03:58 JaMa, :) Dec 29 19:04:02 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4e851d47ebf2 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atparser.vala: fsogsmd: parser: handle invalid state more forgiving, trying to resynchronize with the stream Dec 29 19:04:03 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r792a003a9d34 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/modem.vala: fsogsmd: modem: fail faster, if we can't open the modem Dec 29 19:04:13 ajafo, too weird :| Dec 29 19:11:57 TAsn: and third probblem but i don't know - in shr or qtmoko, i got shr all day and 30minutes ago i installed qtmoko and receive 3 sms from a middle day, but it can be problem in network operator, shr or qtmoko Dec 29 19:12:43 no idea :| Dec 29 19:12:48 sounds like a problem with the network Dec 29 19:12:53 used to happen with my nokia's as well. Dec 29 19:15:06 maybe Dec 29 19:17:03 btw. is there any ready developer environment for shr like in many projects as prepared virtual machine? Dec 29 19:19:28 kinda. Dec 29 19:19:33 I mean depends on what you are looking for. Dec 29 19:19:48 it's linux, you can just install whatever you want on your pc. Dec 29 19:19:59 I'm not sure about a modem emulator (though I remember something about it) Dec 29 19:20:14 but everything else is just buildable... Dec 29 19:20:40 yeah i know but i thought about sthg vm with all deps Dec 29 19:20:53 no, nothing like that :| Dec 29 19:21:41 anyhow, ciao again. Dec 29 19:22:08 okz i'll install all ;) Dec 29 19:22:14 c'ya TAsn Dec 29 19:22:39 and thanks for all answers ;) Dec 29 19:28:30 ajafo, if you install libphone-ui make sure you do it from the correct branch. Dec 29 19:35:25 TAsn: okz i'll check it if i find which one is correct ;) Dec 29 19:35:40 developers-no-lfg Dec 29 19:35:41 :P Dec 29 19:39:13 thx ;) Dec 29 19:53:03 heyho Dec 29 19:56:42 hi morphis Dec 29 19:57:20 hey playya_ Dec 29 19:57:58 playya_: how is the 26C3? Dec 29 19:58:13 greaz Dec 29 19:58:21 but missed some talks :/ Dec 29 19:58:36 cause not much sleep? Dec 29 19:59:00 yes Dec 29 19:59:25 :) Dec 29 19:59:29 except today: ~ 10 a.m.-3 p.m. Dec 29 20:02:03 totally ok for me :) Dec 29 20:02:17 that's the long time Dec 29 20:02:19 seven hours to sleep, whats the problem :) Dec 29 20:03:50 2-3 hours is ok ;) 3-5 is long time :) over 5 sounds like years ;) Dec 29 20:06:20 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r1caf9c5c5167 10/msmcommd/ (include/msmcomm/internal.h src/network.c src/serial.c): msmcommd: implement subscription in management protocol Dec 29 20:06:41 ajafo: jepp Dec 29 20:07:09 2-3 hours for sleeping and the others you have to fill up with coffee or mate tea Dec 29 20:08:44 yep yerba mate ;) Dec 29 20:08:51 yes. i did this the last 3 nights before Dec 29 20:10:38 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r90ca40860ced 10/msmcommd/src/msmcommd.c: msmcommd: init serial and network components on program startup Dec 29 20:10:50 but 7 days it's max for without sleep :) Dec 30 00:57:31 hello. nice to join shr! now your unstable branch is broken? last night my build failed. Dec 30 00:57:33 NOTE: Running task 4199 of 7470 (ID: 2977, /home/ryuch/work/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/freesmartphone/libfsotransport_git.bb, do_compile) Dec 30 00:57:33 Packaged contents of libyaml-dev into /home/ryuch/work/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/deploy/ipk/armv4t/libyaml-0-dev_0.1.2-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Dec 30 00:57:33 Packaged contents of libyaml-static into /home/ryuch/work/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/deploy/ipk/armv4t/libyaml-0-static_0.1.2-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Dec 30 00:57:33 NOTE: Not creating empty archive for libyaml-locale-0.1.2-r0.4 Dec 30 00:57:35 cp: cannot open `/home/ryuch/work/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/xserver-xorg-2_1.7.3-r1/image/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/sedjUylYh' for reading: Permission denied Dec 30 00:57:38 NOTE: Running task 4200 of 7470 (ID: 6984, /home/ryuch/work/shr/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/libyaml/libyaml_0.1.2.bb, do_package_write) Dec 30 00:57:41 ERROR: function do_compile failed Dec 30 00:58:40 i think that's you host Dec 30 00:59:53 i have to host? Dec 30 01:00:53 looks weird Dec 30 01:06:42 Task 4199 failed but not Task 4200, right? Dec 30 01:20:45 ryuch: yep Dec 30 01:32:54 i touched the file, /home/ryuch/work/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/xserver-xorg-2_1.7.3-r1/image/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/sedjUylYh, so it proceeded a little more, but finally it failed with a log file. Dec 30 01:34:11 it says fsotransport/socket.vala:79.36-79.42: error: The name `address' does not exist in the context of `FsoFramework.SocketTransport.open' Dec 30 01:34:11 var res = Linux.inet_aton( address.to_string(), out inaddr ); Dec 30 01:34:11 ^^^^^^^ Dec 30 01:35:18 probably fsotransport package is broken. Dec 30 01:36:12 could you let me know the lasted stable version? Dec 30 01:40:44 which rev? Dec 30 01:53:00 yap. let me know the rev. number. Dec 30 01:53:08 or tag name? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 30 02:59:57 2009