**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 15 02:59:57 2010 Jan 15 06:45:39 hi Jan 15 06:47:45 hi Jan 15 06:49:43 little question about calypso deep sleep mode Jan 15 06:50:05 http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks#MakeyourGSMmorereliable seems to say that only a few devices+firmwares are concerned Jan 15 06:50:31 does that mean that 'autonofix' isn't mandatory to enable deep sleep mode? Jan 15 06:51:15 if that's so, any way to know beforehand if that's needed or not? Jan 15 08:15:09 DocScrutinizer51 : Hi, i have install ffalarm in my openmoko Jan 15 08:15:54 DocScrutinizer51 : Is is possible to set standby alarm using this ? Jan 15 08:21:19 ~logs Jan 15 08:21:20 All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. 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Jan 15 08:52:47 spaetz: maybe you downloaded that just when rsync was updating that Jan 15 08:54:47 hi Jan 15 08:55:09 daniele_athome: hi Jan 15 08:55:16 good morning JaMa|W Jan 15 08:55:22 daniele_athome: EFL bumped yesterday to that *60 Jan 15 08:55:24 I see you have bumped EFL :P Jan 15 08:55:29 ;) eheh Jan 15 08:55:52 morning folks Jan 15 08:56:03 yes after testing the rest of things in queue and pushing it all Jan 15 08:56:05 gena2x: now my touchscreen broke. disabling debugging seems to really uncover bugs :) http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2328 Jan 15 08:56:50 any hints on how to debug this would be welcome, i can keep the device in this state for a while since I now have a backup openmoko :-) Jan 15 08:58:40 PaulFertser: is there any extra information that I should add to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2328 ? some magic debugging command for touchscreens? ;) Jan 15 09:00:15 lindi-: nice report :) for very nasty bug :( Jan 15 09:01:29 daniele_athome: can you confirm that sliders are working and there are no new bugs? Jan 15 09:02:28 JaMa|W, i'm upgrading now Jan 15 09:02:36 JaMa|W: is the buildhost still building? Jan 15 09:02:52 Heinervdm: no.. Jan 15 09:03:07 Heinervdm: but I would like to start feed build again (dillo fix) Jan 15 09:03:24 Heinervdm: and probably spaetz regenerated Packages Jan 15 09:03:28 JaMa|W: can you rebuild bluez-hcidump Jan 15 09:03:39 ah let me check Jan 15 09:04:01 Heinervdm: sure, what's wrong with that? libbz? Jan 15 09:05:28 JaMa|W: it's not in package index Jan 15 09:05:28 still missing Jan 15 09:05:28 so the package rebuild from spaetz wasn't enough Jan 15 09:05:47 ah and do we have bluez-hcidump built? I'll check Jan 15 09:05:49 lindi-: i guess suspend/resume is keywords Jan 15 09:06:14 JaMa|W: yes it's build, perhaps just add it to task-shr-feed Jan 15 09:06:27 JaMa|W Jan 15 09:06:30 ehm Jan 15 09:07:15 JaMa|W: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/edje/src/lib/edje_calc.c?rev=44960 Jan 15 09:07:15 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jan 15 09:07:30 LOL Jan 15 09:07:42 what? Jan 15 09:07:54 revision that fixes the dragable bug is 45060 Jan 15 09:08:10 http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/45060 Jan 15 09:08:12 :D Jan 15 09:08:53 JaMa|W: it's not empty anymore, I must have looked when it synced Jan 15 09:08:57 anyway, slider doesn't work Jan 15 09:09:43 hmm :/ Jan 15 09:09:58 JaMa|W, maybe you should apply that little patch afterall ;) Jan 15 09:11:31 or someone should test whole EFL 45060 Jan 15 09:12:56 lindi-: touchscreen handling was quite reworked so tbh i do not see much sense in trying to chase this rare bug in andy-tracking. Jan 15 09:12:56 yeah... Jan 15 09:13:44 * daniele_athome is replacing libedje binary... Jan 15 09:13:45 JaMa|W, bumping to efl 45060 could be a long process Jan 15 09:14:04 Heinervdm: we have it commented out in task-shr-feed, any idea why? Jan 15 09:14:08 do you think that because it's "unstable" you can leave such a bug where it is now? I mean they are just two function calls... Jan 15 09:14:10 JaMa|W, anyway it's just my thought Jan 15 09:14:15 JaMa|W: no Jan 15 09:14:36 PaulFertser: was reworked where? Jan 15 09:14:47 commented out what? Jan 15 09:14:50 gena2x: i don't have permission to add keywords Jan 15 09:14:54 hci-dump thingie? Jan 15 09:14:58 spaetz: yes Jan 15 09:15:09 oops, I closed the bug, requesting that package :) Jan 15 09:15:19 Ainulindale, hi Jan 15 09:15:27 and renamed it to packages.tar.gz empty :) Jan 15 09:15:35 double oops Jan 15 09:15:42 if I post a stripped version of libedje 45060 patched with yesterday fix, do you approve it? :P Jan 15 09:17:09 s/do/will/ Jan 15 09:17:09 daniele_athome meant: if I post a stripped version of libedje 45060 patched with yesterday fix, will you approve it? :P Jan 15 09:17:09 lindi-: how to suspend om from command line? i can recall you wrote some scripts? Jan 15 09:17:09 Heinervdm: I'll run build.. maybe its just from bluez3/4 problems we had Jan 15 09:17:10 ok Jan 15 09:17:10 lets see what happens Jan 15 09:17:10 it's small so it shouldn't take long Jan 15 09:17:10 lindi-: during work on 2.6.31 i think Jan 15 09:17:23 one more reason for switching to 2.6.31/32 Jan 15 09:17:32 Heinervdm: yes but I run it like this ;) bb bluez-hcidump; bb -k task-shr-feed; bb package-index;sync_unstable_feed Jan 15 09:17:45 :D Jan 15 09:18:00 Heinervdm: so the index and rsync will be in 30 mins or so.. Jan 15 09:18:14 Was it so hard to be polite? I'll approve it if it's not too big yes, but ~800k was far too big compared to what I'm willing to let slip through Jan 15 09:18:18 That's soon enough Jan 15 09:18:18 Heinervdm: but only thing changed in task-shr-feed is dillo, which is not that bad Jan 15 09:19:50 please don't post 800kb binary mails in the mailing list. That's what file hosters are for. thanks Jan 15 09:19:50 gena2x: are you using frameworkd? Jan 15 09:20:02 this is not alt.binary Jan 15 09:20:20 PaulFertser: but something was done to TS in andy-tracking on "Date: Thu Oct 1 20:58:18 2009 -0500" Jan 15 09:21:39 lindi-: yes, but in .31 and later TS uses different adc driver anyway iirc. Jan 15 09:21:52 lindi-: i am still not decided. i can stop or start it. is it easy to suspend/resume it without framework? Jan 15 09:22:03 PaulFertser: ok then i guess i go back to the older andy-tracking where this works Jan 15 09:22:18 gena2x: "pm-suspend" Jan 15 09:22:21 gena2x: "apm -s" Jan 15 09:22:28 gena2x: echo mem > /sys/power/state Jan 15 09:22:34 gena2x: there are many ways :) Jan 15 09:22:36 lindi-: thanks Jan 15 09:22:48 lindi-: mb try to fix this? Jan 15 09:23:59 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re5b16ef157fd 10/fsodeviced/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Jan 15 09:23:59 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: add --disable-resource-integration to disable FSO resource Jan 15 09:23:59 freesmartphone.org: integration. Some systems want fsodeviced, but not fsousaged. Jan 15 09:24:46 Ainulindale, yesterday I wasn't in a the mood... Jan 15 09:24:57 anyway seeing the shr team doing its choices... Jan 15 09:25:01 make me nervous :D Jan 15 09:25:06 s/make/makes Jan 15 09:26:28 *wasn't in the mood Jan 15 09:27:32 It happens. Jan 15 09:28:54 Ainulindale, so my thought yesterday was: "shr team makes me nervous, damn it!! and the latest is a humorous mailing list admin!!" Jan 15 09:28:54 lindi-: and .31/.32 can't suspend at all, so may be same bug where :) Jan 15 09:29:20 JaMa|W: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builds/52197/ so we can add it back to the feed Jan 15 09:29:43 Heinervdm: hehe I already did :) Jan 15 09:29:51 PaulFertser: how about at least leaving andy-tracking to a working state by removing the recent TS changes? Jan 15 09:29:55 JaMa|W: thx :) Jan 15 09:30:26 daniele_athome: s/mailing list admin/SHR leader who's been slacking for 6 months or so/ Jan 15 09:30:26 lindi-: well, it's reasonable idea. But are you really sure the change was bogus? Jan 15 09:30:36 lindi-: Nelson commented on that and agreed etc. Jan 15 09:35:50 lindi-: dont you know how to wake it up automatically? Jan 15 09:36:34 gena2x: use ffalarms? Jan 15 09:37:37 lindi-: may be it's possible to reload module to workaround this? Jan 15 09:40:58 PaulFertser: at least disabling debug should not be done Jan 15 09:41:30 PaulFertser: it is either that ts patch or disabling of debug Jan 15 09:42:32 lindi-: why do you think so? you can reproduce? Jan 15 09:43:00 lindi-: i can suspend here without problems Jan 15 09:43:46 gena2x: with latest andy-traking Jan 15 09:43:46 lindi-: tried 7 times now Jan 15 09:43:46 gena2x: it worked for many months and now those are here the only changes i can think of Jan 15 09:43:46 lindi-: ah, so you mean you're reporting this as a regression comparing to the slow-debug kernel, ok. Interesting why other folks didn't hit that yet. Also i heard spaetz was going to do nodebug for shr testing, so that's an additional datapoint for him to consider. Jan 15 09:43:46 lindi-: and my touchscreen is ok Jan 15 09:43:49 PaulFertser: yep, it is Jan 15 09:44:17 gena2x: well it only occurs very rarely Jan 15 09:44:22 DEBUG && touchscreen || broken phone :) Jan 15 09:44:34 ooh, parentheses might be missing :) Jan 15 09:44:40 nahh Jan 15 09:47:19 raster: hi, how is E samsung bussiness going? Jan 15 09:48:20 lindi-: ok, try to return to DEBUG kernel :) Jan 15 09:49:05 gena2x: well then wifi fails :) Jan 15 09:50:08 lindi-: complains session? try it harder :) Jan 15 09:56:35 not870: illume-keyboard-default-numeric does not contain .kbd file Jan 15 09:56:47 s/not/#/ Jan 15 09:56:48 spaetz meant: #870: illume-keyboard-default-numeric does not contain .kbd file Jan 15 09:56:57 mrmoku|away: ? Jan 15 10:03:37 spaetz: it's probably an error in the recipe Jan 15 10:03:37 http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/e17/illume-keyboard-default_svn.bb#n29 Jan 15 10:03:37 that line is probably wrong: ${libdir}${INSTPATH}/Numeric.kbd \ Jan 15 10:04:07 spaetz: the file is either names Numbers.kbd or Numeric.kbd Jan 15 10:04:07 spaetz: but Numberic.kbd is included to the package and Numbers.kbd is copied to the install dir Jan 15 10:04:07 so this has to fail Jan 15 10:06:02 spaetz: it's Numbers.kbd Jan 15 10:06:02 Heinervdm: build will take a lot longer.. shr is fighting with hackable about buildhost resources :) Jan 15 10:06:02 Heinervdm: and slow is now a lot slower :) Jan 15 10:07:06 Heinervdm: care to mail a patch? (sorry for being so lazy :-)) Jan 15 10:07:11 I could apply it Jan 15 10:07:17 spaetz: i'm preparing Jan 15 10:07:23 ahh, cool thanks Jan 15 10:07:34 JaMa|W: ahh, that is why it takes so long Jan 15 10:08:00 we should find a new buildhost... alhough it has nice connectivity Jan 15 10:08:10 but building is really a pain Jan 15 10:09:23 aaaaah dont u love the disconnnects Jan 15 10:10:39 hmm forgott the newline in the patch... Jan 15 10:13:17 Heinervdm: where? Jan 15 10:13:17 I can fix that Jan 15 10:13:17 spaetz: http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/630/ Jan 15 10:13:19 spaetz: i resent the patch already Jan 15 10:13:25 and rejected the old one Jan 15 10:13:50 ok. Jan 15 10:14:16 will apply 630 Jan 15 10:14:24 lindi-: ok, i'll try play with wifi problem today, may be something easy where. Jan 15 10:18:41 pushed 630 Jan 15 10:21:29 lindi-: btw by 'try it harder' i meant that according to report, wifi can be brought up from n-th attempt. Jan 15 10:21:37 daniele_athome: I've that EFL rev built.. but cannot test it on neo now from work.. Jan 15 10:22:31 JaMa|W, i have already rebuilt 44960 with dragable patch... posting it on ML right now... Jan 15 10:23:12 JaMa|W: have you build a complete image? Jan 15 10:23:20 JaMa|W: i need to flash a new one... Jan 15 10:27:40 http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2010-January/001920.html Jan 15 10:27:58 valos: stripped version ;) Jan 15 10:29:37 valos, probably you and I are the only people who have user interface working well on shr-unstable :) Jan 15 10:30:01 ups, exidently build gta01 image :) Jan 15 10:31:52 Heinervdm: locally yes.. on buildhost yesterday (with only 44960) Jan 15 10:32:20 JaMa|W: then i can try your version Jan 15 10:40:27 mrmoku|away, spaetz TAsn Could smbd apply patch to phoneuid?) Jan 15 10:42:12 I'm beginning to think that you have some impediments to improve EFL on SHR Jan 15 10:42:18 maybe from samsung... who knows :D Jan 15 10:42:19 :P Jan 15 10:44:16 daniele_athome: who me? Jan 15 10:44:24 JaMa|W, don't worry... just joking Jan 15 10:44:27 daniele_athome: wtf are you talking about? :P Jan 15 10:44:46 and even if it's real, I will not never know that anyway... Jan 15 10:44:48 Heinervdm is already downloading my image for EFL test and I'll push it after that Jan 15 10:45:02 I don't know about what you speak, but "samsung, efl, improve" is defenetly smth about raster)) Jan 15 10:45:12 JaMa|W, i was joking :D Jan 15 10:45:19 daniele_athome: but I would like to be employed by samsung to work on something embedded related :) Jan 15 10:45:33 :) Jan 15 10:45:45 daniele_athome: much better that be j2ee programmer and spend 70% of work hours building SHR ;) Jan 15 10:45:54 s/that/than/ Jan 15 10:45:54 JaMa|W meant: daniele_athome: much better than be j2ee programmer and spend 70% of work hours building SHR ;) Jan 15 10:46:08 guys don't take me always seriously :D Jan 15 10:46:15 JaMa|W, i'm a j2ee programmer too :( Jan 15 10:46:33 I did j2ee for 2 years too ;) Jan 15 10:46:49 i hate java Jan 15 10:47:01 i still like java Jan 15 10:47:42 i'm ashamed to be a java programmer Jan 15 10:47:51 * JaMa|W is going to read some thick book about scala Jan 15 10:47:58 JaMa|W, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Jan 15 10:47:59 :P Jan 15 10:48:06 daniele_athome: why not? Jan 15 10:48:15 even worse!!!! Jan 15 10:48:20 JaMa|W, code generators Jan 15 10:48:29 i wouldn't mind being java programmer again Jan 15 10:48:31 daniele_athome: it's good option for me to use better language and still be employed by this company Jan 15 10:48:56 JaMa|W, code generators will eliminate programmers, over and over Jan 15 10:49:16 it's like machines for craftsman Jan 15 10:49:21 i know this is the progress... :( Jan 15 10:49:30 that's discussion for some other channel imho :) Jan 15 10:49:36 now I understand the old men Jan 15 10:49:46 as long as we don't want to use j2ee on poor neo :) Jan 15 10:49:55 of course not Jan 15 10:49:56 you just have to be the one programming the code generators Jan 15 10:50:23 Meomer_, code generators shall not always be used by mean of programming language Jan 15 10:50:34 one day they will be programmable with free words Jan 15 10:50:37 and thoughts... Jan 15 10:50:38 I guess Jan 15 10:50:57 daniele_athome: check previous javaposse about code generation.. Jan 15 10:50:58 :) Jan 15 10:51:15 anyway, I need to do a JSP fragment now :( Jan 15 10:51:15 sigh Jan 15 10:51:26 see you later Jan 15 10:51:32 in world where you already have to use lots of generated code it's better to have clever tools for it.. Jan 15 10:51:53 not some stupid Jdeveloper plugin :) Jan 15 10:52:12 JaMa|W, that's right but I know for sure that the direction is that Jan 15 10:52:25 s/the direction is that/the direction is that one/ Jan 15 10:52:26 daniele_athome meant: JaMa|W, that's right but I know for sure that the direction is that one Jan 15 11:09:38 hm. switched all the config files to log level WARNING and phone started refusing to register the network Jan 15 11:10:03 WARN or WARNING? Jan 15 11:10:10 WARNING Jan 15 11:10:20 as inscribed in the configs Jan 15 11:10:33 ah WARNING is in example log4j has just WARN, sorry Jan 15 11:10:57 do I need to replace all warning to warn? Jan 15 11:11:05 no Jan 15 11:11:21 so? Jan 15 11:11:53 nothing WARNING is probably right as it's in examples, I recalled it wrong.. Jan 15 11:12:26 and that problem you should check logs and if everything is still running (in ps) as it should Jan 15 11:14:22 seems that it is only frameworkd problem Jan 15 11:14:37 switched it back to INFO and everything started to work Jan 15 11:16:31 mrmoku|away: you've asked how to make not suspending during booting. I propose to use this: "ogsmd INFO full readyness now True". I think this might be used Jan 15 11:19:43 mickeyl, mickey|office: do you remember those issues with dynamic dbus? about error handling... Jan 15 11:19:56 i found a way to solve it, using dbus api Jan 15 11:27:22 still 10 flaunch icons in 45060 Jan 15 11:28:22 sigh :( Jan 15 11:36:59 Q-Master: then it will never suspend when you boot it without a SIM ;) Jan 15 11:37:49 mrmoku: not exactly. ogsmd does know if there is a sim card or not, does it? Jan 15 11:37:50 mrmoku, have you seen "one more gcc-4.4" patch?) Jan 15 11:38:11 and btw, I have full shr ebuilds now) (at least for compilable parts) Jan 15 11:38:25 Q-Master: sure and it won't send the full readyness signal then, no? Jan 15 11:38:33 max_posedon: yeah, read both :) Jan 15 11:39:23 max_posedon: did TAsn apply the g_return_fail_if one? Jan 15 11:39:27 review... and apply!) Jan 15 11:39:28 yes Jan 15 11:39:31 he did Jan 15 11:40:04 mrmoku: then framework should have a 2 states of readyness: 1st when SIM in inserted and the 2nd when not. I think that it is not so hard to implement, so full readyness will be in both cases. Jan 15 11:40:34 Heinervdm: I would push it, if it's only flaunch, do you agree or not yet? Jan 15 11:41:08 I'm rebuiling the image too, because i couldn't find a slider :) Jan 15 11:41:34 So wait some minutes Jan 15 11:42:34 von_fritz had "45111" built .. we should ask him how many buttons he had.. Jan 15 11:43:08 Heinervdm: ah I have no sliders in my image? :) Jan 15 11:43:20 JaMa|W: no Jan 15 11:45:11 like no program with slider or no slider was drawn where it should be? Jan 15 11:45:24 because there should be whole full image + extras Jan 15 11:45:44 and ie shr-setting and lock screen is using that, isn't it? Jan 15 11:45:51 JaMa|W, yes Jan 15 11:45:53 any dragable part Jan 15 11:46:00 so even toggles Jan 15 11:47:06 JaMa|W: i flashed my images, because it finished in the same moment and had 2.6.29 kernel, but that doesn't work Jan 15 11:47:35 Heinervdm: did you remove -cworth-native on your buildhost? Jan 15 11:47:50 JaMa|W: it's blacklisted Jan 15 11:47:53 if you mean that your images cannot boot now Jan 15 11:48:03 Heinervdm: yes but still in staging Jan 15 11:48:12 Heinervdm: I pushed blacklist just yesterday.. Jan 15 11:48:17 so if you had it before.. Jan 15 11:48:20 The problem is that i havn't rebuild the apps using efl Jan 15 11:50:38 ah ok.. let me know if you can test it before 1PM UTC.. I would push it and rebuild on buildhost before going off Jan 15 11:51:18 JaMa|W: i'm flashing, so i think i can tell you in 10 minutes Jan 15 11:51:38 good Jan 15 11:57:08 mrmoku, so, will you apply phoneuid?) Jan 15 12:17:30 max_posedon1: sorry... was on the phone Jan 15 12:18:02 review finished :P Jan 15 12:20:16 SHR: 03maxposedon 07phoneuid * r42252ab4eed7 10/src/phoneuid.c: Fix gcc-4.4 compilation warning(error) Jan 15 12:21:56 nice, thanks) Jan 15 12:42:28 JaMa|W: mine image isn't working Jan 15 12:42:32 Hi, apm -s suspends the openmoko, like that...to resume from suspend, is there any command on openmoko / Jan 15 12:43:22 Heinervdm: why? have you removed that -cworth-native or not? Jan 15 12:43:38 satish: how do you want to execute a command on your suspended openmoko? Jan 15 12:43:44 JaMa|W: yes, don't know why Jan 15 12:43:55 JaMa|W: have flashed yours now Jan 15 12:44:10 spaetz : want to configure the command first and later execute the suspend Jan 15 12:44:32 spaetz : something like rtcwake -s 1 -m standby Jan 15 12:44:51 I c Jan 15 12:45:06 spaetz : apmd shows options Jan 15 12:45:13 Heinervdm: try to remove normal -cworth too. but shouldn't be pulled to image (at least because of that blacklist..) Jan 15 12:45:35 spaetz : for giving more than one command input like standby and resume Jan 15 12:45:47 Heinervdm: and show me files-in-image from testlab if you can (from your image) Jan 15 12:45:52 sorry, no clue here Jan 15 12:46:10 spaetz : ok Jan 15 12:46:57 JaMa|W: my image isn't important Jan 15 12:47:09 hi, want keep openmoko in standby mode for a specified time ....any clue ? like rtcwake -s 1 -m standby Jan 15 12:47:13 sliders are working in your image Jan 15 12:47:41 JaMa|W: toggle too Jan 15 12:47:54 Entry also Jan 15 12:48:25 Heinervdm, which EFL svn revision is? Jan 15 12:48:51 daniele_athome: 45060 Jan 15 12:48:52 daniele_athome: 45060 Jan 15 12:49:26 ok Jan 15 12:49:28 Heinervdm: ok so good enough for oe.dev.. i guess I already talked with koen about this and he is ok with bump now Jan 15 12:49:31 right :) Jan 15 12:49:51 JaMa|W: ok Jan 15 12:51:06 * JaMa|W running pushing monkey.. Jan 15 12:51:51 hi, want keep openmoko in standby mode for a specified time ....any clue ? like rtcwake -s 1 -m standby Jan 15 12:53:33 satish: why not first set RTC to the time you want and then to "echo mem > /sys/power/mode"? Jan 15 12:53:40 state Jan 15 12:54:17 PaulFertser : how to set RTC time / Jan 15 12:54:57 satish: doesn't rtcwake work? Jan 15 12:55:09 satish: or why do not you use FSO method to do that? Jan 15 12:55:35 PaulFertser : root@om-gta02 ~ $ rtcwake -l -s 1 rtcwake: /dev/rtc not enabled for wakeup events Jan 15 12:55:55 satish: hm, try to do it FSO way then. Jan 15 12:56:12 what ever i do with rtcwake it say not enabled for wakeup events Jan 15 12:56:40 PaulFertser : how to do FSo way ? Jan 15 12:57:11 spaetz: pity that you disabled UBI from testing images.. someone could use that as kernel without debug but with same support as shr-u kernel.. Jan 15 12:57:16 satish: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Time.Alarm.html;hb=HEAD#AddAlarm Jan 15 12:57:26 spaetz: and it doesn't make sth worse for shr-t users.. Jan 15 12:57:38 satish, PaulFertser: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.RealtimeClock.html;hb=HEAD Jan 15 12:57:42 spaetz: as long as they are not using ubi as rootfs :) Jan 15 12:58:39 Heinervdm: oh yes, sorry, satish Jan 15 12:59:09 PaulFertser: Time.Alarm is a bit more complicated, it want's a dbus path that will be called an resume Jan 15 13:00:05 Heinervdm: PaulFertser: I didn't understand exactly what your talking abt ... Jan 15 13:00:43 satish: you can use mdbus to set org.freesmartphone.Device.RealtimeClock.setWakeupTime Jan 15 13:02:10 Heinervdm: i have mdbus install on openmoko Jan 15 13:02:24 Heinervdm: how to set this wakeup time ? Jan 15 13:02:27 satish: the do mdbus -s Jan 15 13:02:42 look for the odeviced busname Jan 15 13:02:55 then do mdbus -s $busname Jan 15 13:03:08 then look for the realtimeclock path Jan 15 13:03:10 and append it Jan 15 13:03:40 and then append the SetWakeupTime mehtod with the timestamp you want to wake up the phone Jan 15 13:05:24 Heinervdm: mdbus -s gave list of things Jan 15 13:05:47 org.freesmartphone.odeviced Jan 15 13:05:49 satish: correct, all busnames avaible Jan 15 13:06:16 satish: now type mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced to get the next list Jan 15 13:07:25 Heinervdm: /org/freesmartphone/Device/RTC Jan 15 13:07:29 Heinervdm: /org/freesmartphone/Device/RTC0 Jan 15 13:07:53 satish: don't know which it is, just try, you will see it Jan 15 13:10:38 Heinervdm: how to get time from RTC ? Jan 15 13:11:00 Heinervdm: how to get time from /org/freesmartphone/Device/RTC ? Jan 15 13:11:09 satish: use the GetCurrentTime method instead of SetWakeupTime Jan 15 13:12:26 root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus /org/freesmartphone/Device/RTC GetCurrentTime Service name not found Jan 15 13:13:10 satish: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/RTC org.freesmartphone.Device.RealtimeClock.GetCurrentTime Jan 15 13:15:20 Heinervdm: oh... ok...i'm new to this framework....thanks Jan 15 13:15:50 Heinervdm: root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Devic e/RTC org.freesmartphone.Device.RealtimeClock.GetCurrentTime /org/freesmartphone/Device/RTC: GetCurrentTime failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod (Method "GetCurrentTime" with signature "" on interface "org.freesmartphone.Device.RealtimeClock" doesn't exist ) Jan 15 13:16:10 Heinervdm: i have tried RTC0 also Jan 15 13:16:15 Heinervdm: same result Jan 15 13:16:25 root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Devic e/RTC0 org.freesmartphone.Device.RealtimeClock.GetCurrentTime /org/freesmartphone/Device/RTC0: GetCurrentTime failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod (Method "GetCurrentTime" with signature "" on interface "org.freesmartphone.Device.RealtimeClock" doesn't exist ) Jan 15 13:17:34 Heinervdm: oh sorry, got it Jan 15 13:17:45 ok Jan 15 13:17:52 Heinervdm: typing mistake ... it is RTC/0 Jan 15 13:18:08 root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Devic e/RTC/0 org.freesmartphone.Device.RealtimeClock.GetCurrentTime 946967107 Jan 15 13:21:35 Heinervdm: Thanks Heinervdm, one last question how to pass variable to set the time / Jan 15 13:22:23 satish: just like in any other shell script? Jan 15 13:23:02 Heinervdm: any env variable if i say TIME=78234178 Jan 15 13:23:56 кщще Jan 15 13:24:16 satish: yes, then just use $TIME Jan 15 13:24:16 oops, sorry Jan 15 13:44:36 spaetz: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/841 haven't you build package-index on shr-testing? Jan 15 14:46:17 http://shr.pastebin.com/m5c50b88a Jan 15 14:50:54 Heinervdm: I have rebuild shr-image and lite image which should be rebuilding the package-index Jan 15 14:53:31 spaetz: hmm, package index looks ok Jan 15 14:53:44 package index has Package: aceofpenguins Jan 15 14:53:45 Version: 1.2-r1.4 Jan 15 14:53:50 but why is there no aceofpenguins-launcher package Jan 15 14:54:47 There is http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk/all/aceofpenguins-launcher_0.4-r0.4_all.ipk Jan 15 14:54:56 the launcher stuff seems to be in _all Jan 15 14:55:02 while aceofpenguins in in amrv4t Jan 15 14:55:03 oh yes :D Jan 15 14:55:26 and package-index and packages agree on the latest version, so I'll close that ticket Jan 15 14:55:28 it's so old, i don't know what i did ;) Jan 15 14:56:23 hehe Jan 15 14:57:17 i think we should try sth like a bug hunting week, without any enhancements and only fixing defects Jan 15 14:57:28 sounds good Jan 15 14:57:51 isn't that we are doing all the time? :-) Jan 15 14:58:03 we try to fix the latest breakages all the time. Jan 15 14:58:19 spaetz: no we are fixing bugs and producing the same amount at the same time Jan 15 14:58:57 right, but I fail to see how a bug hunting week changes that. as we introduce a new bug for every bug we fix :), e.g. by updating EFL Jan 15 14:59:02 oh well, often we are gaining runtime speed and architecture though Jan 15 14:59:31 most of the bugs are related to the shr apps Jan 15 14:59:43 and some are really easy to fix Jan 15 14:59:59 Heinervdm: true, but often that is due to underlying FSO changes. and I cannot fix SHR app stuff, for example Jan 15 15:00:01 like the one that the call isn't terminated if you close the dialer Jan 15 15:00:33 so I couldn't participate in such a bug hunting week. Unfortunately our SHR apps/FSO team is rather smallish :) Jan 15 15:00:46 Heinervdm: yes, I would love to have that stuff fixed Jan 15 15:00:48 i'm really looking forward to our next meeting, we should attempt to do more integration work, less presentations Jan 15 15:00:58 having a concrete goal would be good Jan 15 15:01:03 * spaetz nods Jan 15 15:01:17 like, fsogsmd integration, Jan 15 15:01:21 or so Jan 15 15:01:32 fsogsmd would be nice Jan 15 15:01:36 that one is best done when all the guys from various layers in the stack are present Jan 15 15:02:01 fsogsmd!!! Jan 15 15:02:46 * spaetz wants that Jan 15 15:02:50 * mickey|office too Jan 15 15:03:14 and .32 Jan 15 15:03:24 it doesn't exactly fits Heinervdm's bug hunting plans though ;P Jan 15 15:03:33 and .32! Jan 15 15:03:35 it' Jan 15 15:03:42 s nearly the opposit ;) Jan 15 15:03:47 right Jan 15 15:04:17 true Jan 15 15:04:22 mickey|office: is fsogsmd ready for calypso? as in, I can make phone calls? Jan 15 15:04:36 but after such a bughunting week there would be a week only with enhancements Jan 15 15:04:43 Heinervdm: yeah Jan 15 15:04:55 and then one can fix the bugs one introduced in the week after Jan 15 15:05:21 spaetz: phone calls and SMS should work Jan 15 15:05:30 albeit with the standard API, no special calypso commands yet Jan 15 15:05:31 WOW; that is all I need anyway Jan 15 15:05:37 how can I try it out? Jan 15 15:05:37 mickey|office, hI! Jan 15 15:05:42 I was looking for you :P Jan 15 15:05:43 suspend/resume is not done yet Jan 15 15:06:02 I had time to try dynamic dbus, especially error handling in async callback Jan 15 15:06:03 the problem is that there are some changes in dbus API, so the apps have to be adjusted Jan 15 15:06:03 * spaetz would love to try it out. Jan 15 15:06:13 but you can do some tests with cli-framework, if you want Jan 15 15:06:21 daniele_athome: got anywhere? Jan 15 15:06:31 mickey|office, yes but I had to modify Dbus vapi Jan 15 15:07:04 adding bindings to dbus_g_error_get_name, that function will return the error dbus name (org.freesmartphone.GSM.Error etc.) Jan 15 15:07:15 coo Jan 15 15:07:16 l Jan 15 15:07:30 mickey|office: that is something that cries for a few days of collaborating on-site Jan 15 15:07:36 so now I do get_error_name() on GLib.Error and I can test which error is Jan 15 15:07:52 fix up fso* to kernel .32 and shr apps to fsogsmd Jan 15 15:07:54 mickey|office, btw this is what fso-glib actually does... Jan 15 15:10:26 spaetz: yeah Jan 15 15:10:59 daniele_athome: *nod* that's why i recommend using fso-glib, but i know it doesn't work with ogsmd Jan 15 15:11:12 i can't maintain two APIs Jan 15 15:11:21 need to concentrate on the new one, otherwise fsogsmd will never be done ;) Jan 15 15:11:28 and we all want the speeeed Jan 15 15:11:34 yes, we do Jan 15 15:14:16 please do disable some kernel modules too, upgrading the kernel on FR is a pain Jan 15 15:14:34 and I don't want to charge my blackberry on my Freerunner, no thanks :) Jan 15 15:15:05 (there is really a kernel module for that on the FR) Jan 15 15:22:53 hehe Jan 15 15:28:41 mickey|office, working with async dbus makes things really easier IMHO Jan 15 15:29:03 because if I use try-catch blocks, I will need nested catches Jan 15 15:29:11 I think callbacks are more organized Jan 15 15:32:35 well, in the end it's taste Jan 15 15:32:47 and depending on the use case Jan 15 15:32:55 some things are better formulated w/ yield Jan 15 15:33:03 some are better formulated w/ classical style Jan 15 15:33:07 at least in Vala we can chose ;) Jan 15 15:33:57 in fsogsmd I'm using async a lot Jan 15 15:34:12 in ogsmd it was very hard to follow the control flow sometimes Jan 15 15:34:16 too many callbacks Jan 15 15:40:35 mickey|office, that's right, maybe with fsogsmd I will use yield sometimes ;) Jan 15 15:58:24 mrmoku|away, Yes, I did apply it. Jan 15 15:58:33 DocScrutinizer51, thanks for the tip, was a great surf :P Jan 15 15:59:34 TAsn: yeah, but you did not close it in patchwork ;) that's why I asked :) Jan 15 16:00:02 mrmoku, simply. Jan 15 16:00:04 I'm an idiot :P Jan 15 16:00:08 :P Jan 15 16:00:21 * mrmoku too for applying the first one in the first place :) Jan 15 16:02:16 hehe :P Jan 15 16:02:18 that's ok. Jan 15 16:04:20 mickey|office: I'm absolutely for less presentations and more integration works :-) Jan 15 16:04:45 Heinervdm: SHR apps did not change since xmas though :P Jan 15 16:05:35 Heinervdm: but you're right in that we should fix the easy to fix litte annoying things first Jan 15 16:12:31 mrmoku: good. shall i issue an RFO (request for organization) on weekend? Jan 15 16:12:44 so that we get the ball rolling Jan 15 16:15:15 yeah, better early than late :) Jan 15 16:34:22 mrmoku, like adding new message to messages list when received, shouldn't be that hard :P Jan 15 16:36:05 TAsn: trac is crap :P Jan 15 16:36:14 why? :P Jan 15 16:36:47 I would like to group those bugs... easy to fix but annoying Jan 15 16:37:07 is there another way than adding a MS for that? Jan 15 16:38:28 something like patchworks bundles... Jan 15 16:39:40 JaMa|W: hmm... what is the working EFL rev? Jan 15 16:40:06 thought 44960... Jan 15 16:43:14 mrmoku: TAsn: maplayer still not working in shr-u Jan 15 16:44:31 alexxy, we just need to fix that missing lib. Jan 15 16:44:36 I know, is there a ticket with info? Jan 15 16:44:45 no =) Jan 15 16:45:11 but seems this is because of one lib that mplayer denpends on Jan 15 16:46:28 one lib I don't remember atm because I can't find where you wrote it ;P Jan 15 16:46:36 that's why we need bug reports :P Jan 15 16:46:45 bz2 Jan 15 16:46:50 mrmoku, shh. Jan 15 16:46:53 I remembered that. Jan 15 16:47:02 I'm just trying to get a bug report! Jan 15 16:47:03 :P Jan 15 16:48:00 heh fun Jan 15 16:48:02 root@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg files libbz2-1 Jan 15 16:48:02 Package libbz2-1 (1.0.5-r2.4) is installed on root and has the following files: Jan 15 16:48:05 /usr/lib/libbz2.so.1.0 Jan 15 16:48:08 root@om-gta02 ~ $ ls /usr/lib/libbz2.* Jan 15 16:48:10 ls: /usr/lib/libbz2.*: No such file or directory Jan 15 16:48:15 lolz. Jan 15 16:48:25 try to force reinstall Jan 15 16:48:27 trying a force-reinstall now Jan 15 16:48:29 heh Jan 15 16:48:39 we just don't trust opkg Jan 15 16:48:41 don't we? :P Jan 15 16:48:54 should we? :P Jan 15 16:49:06 no. Jan 15 16:49:12 alexxy: opkg install -force-reinstall libbz2-1 Jan 15 16:49:15 and mplayer works :) Jan 15 16:49:23 so it's just an mplayer issue. Jan 15 16:49:27 no Jan 15 16:49:30 meant Jan 15 16:49:31 opkg Jan 15 16:49:56 yeah some strange thing with libbz2 conflicting with bzlib something or so Jan 15 16:50:26 err bzip2 Jan 15 16:54:22 hmm... we could use keywords Jan 15 16:54:37 TAsn: what do you think... keyword 'easyfix' Jan 15 16:56:10 what are you talking about? :P Jan 15 16:56:27 anyhow, gtg, write here (prefix with my nick) and I'll answer after dinner. Jan 15 16:56:41 hehe buon appetit Jan 15 16:58:23 * mrmoku dinner too... Jan 15 16:58:24 bll Jan 15 17:07:19 heyho Jan 15 17:08:52 morphis: yay! Jan 15 17:09:08 morphis: greets to the brave RE activist! Jan 15 17:09:09 :D Jan 15 17:09:16 hrhr :D Jan 15 17:09:23 it's going forward :) Jan 15 17:09:31 Layer 1 is nearly done Jan 15 17:09:47 but I think RE is something which is quite interesting Jan 15 17:10:06 s/is quite interesting/is quite a interesing experience/ Jan 15 17:10:07 morphis meant: but I think RE is something which is quite a interesing experience Jan 15 17:10:13 morphis: why do you think payload would be ~easy to understand? Jan 15 17:10:45 cause there is in front of every specific payload a definition of the message payload (a group id + msg id) Jan 15 17:11:03 afterwards for example the sim auth packet is only the sim pin Jan 15 17:11:07 within some null bytes Jan 15 17:11:45 so the hardest thing should be the relation between the packets Jan 15 17:13:14 but palm is great with their software, they give us the complete debug output of there tilgsm-interface implementation Jan 15 17:13:33 morphis: how generous of them :| Jan 15 17:13:33 including all group id's + msg id's Jan 15 17:13:59 they can't leak even mimimal docs forcing you to do months of REing, possibly making FSO going nowhere etc etc. Jan 15 17:14:23 PaulFertser: I spoke with a developer at palm Jan 15 17:14:52 they only using some sort of protocol from qualcom's basic modem stuff Jan 15 17:15:20 it's autogenerated by some qualcomm related tools Jan 15 17:15:36 and you know how close this whole gsm part is ... Jan 15 17:17:07 hum, is it safe to upgrade now? Jan 15 17:17:23 And will it fix sliders? \o/ Jan 15 17:35:52 morphis: but why can't they _leak_ at least some part of it to aid REing? Jan 15 17:36:43 don't know, but the developer told me only 'it's the secret part of our secret parts we have' Jan 15 17:38:11 but there is the option to write a mail to palm about releasing some information under NDA for some people Jan 15 17:38:52 but when I see which trouble we have with them getting the source code for dsp-bridgedriver and wlan I don't think that they will do anything like this Jan 15 18:45:35 hello all Jan 15 18:45:44 which is the device with SHR now? Jan 15 18:46:27 the device ? Jan 15 18:46:38 sudo ifconfig ... netmask 255.255.255.0 Jan 15 18:46:43 what is ...? Jan 15 18:47:46 misc: sudo ifconfig DEVICE netmask 255.255.255.0 Jan 15 18:47:50 what is DEVICE ? Jan 15 18:48:05 pbaxter: depends on your host Jan 15 18:48:16 PaulFertser: i have uboot Jan 15 18:48:16 pbaxter: "ip l" will show you the rist of available devices Jan 15 18:48:32 pbaxter: just do ip l or ifconfig -a Jan 15 18:49:17 PaulFertser: mmm but there lo eth0 wlan0 wmaster0 Jan 15 18:49:26 eth0 is usb Jan 15 18:49:29 wlan0 is wifi Jan 15 18:49:52 misc: eth0 i think it's internet Jan 15 18:50:17 pbaxter: ie what do you call "internet" Jan 15 18:50:20 pbaxter: so your host doesn't see the FR at all it means. Jan 15 18:50:45 mmm Jan 15 18:50:55 PaulFertser: it worked dfu-util so i think it see FR Jan 15 18:51:03 oh, on the host ? Jan 15 18:51:37 yes Jan 15 18:51:50 can you see dmesg ? Jan 15 18:51:59 ( or paste it on pastebin.com ) Jan 15 18:52:19 pbaxter: when you're in u-boot and dfu-util works it means you can't access it with cdc_ether. Jan 15 18:52:35 pbaxter: for cdc_ether you need to have linux running on the device. Jan 15 18:52:47 it's running Jan 15 18:53:00 PaulFertser: http://paste.debian.net/56784/ Jan 15 18:53:04 misc: http://paste.debian.net/56784/ Jan 15 18:53:24 pbaxter: USB ACM device <-- see, it's u-boot, not linux Jan 15 18:54:01 PaulFertser: what can i do on shr? Jan 15 18:54:09 i've not given password till now Jan 15 18:54:11 pbaxter: boot shr first Jan 15 18:54:19 pbaxter: fully Jan 15 18:54:34 done Jan 15 18:54:48 but i've not given any password when it asked me Jan 15 18:54:50 pbaxter: probably you was unlucky to download non-bootable SHR-unstable versions that were available for download several days ago. Jan 15 18:55:36 PaulFertser: but i've downloaded testing Jan 15 18:55:45 pbaxter: and also some SHR versions come without root password, so you have to set one with on-screen terminal before being able to ssh in. Jan 15 18:57:16 mmm ok Jan 15 18:58:45 PaulFertser: and to install ubi image? Jan 15 18:58:48 ùhow can i do? Jan 15 18:59:00 pbaxter: you better not try, it's not end-user ready. Jan 15 18:59:16 mmm ok Jan 15 18:59:19 PaulFertser: your advice? Jan 15 19:00:01 pbaxter: boot shr-testing, set the root password with terminal Jan 15 19:00:12 done Jan 15 19:00:14 but i cannot find Jan 15 19:00:16 any device Jan 15 19:00:18 http://paste.debian.net/56784/ Jan 15 19:45:43 Oh man, that's fun: http://steike.com/code/useless/evil-c/ Jan 15 19:48:26 PaulFertser: especially the MS way of optimizing ;) Jan 15 19:49:24 uhm !! is something I use...not rarely Jan 15 19:50:32 mrmoku: yeah Jan 15 20:02:31 mrmoku|away, what did you mean by keyword easyfix? for trac? in what field? Jan 15 20:11:54 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r3edb284341da 10/msmcommd/src/msmcommd.c: msmcommd: add some output message on startup Jan 15 20:33:38 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r29a248ca15e8 10/msmcommd/src/llc.c: msmcommd: correct crc16 calculation Jan 15 20:39:18 mrmoku|away: that bz2 issue is the same as with navit/navit-icons split.. first opkg installs libbz2 with new libbz* file, then it upgrades bzip2 package and removes files which were in older version of bzip2 package and are not in newer (ie libbz.. which should be owned by libbz package now.. but it's still removed) Jan 15 20:39:23 alexxy: ^ Jan 15 20:40:44 mrmoku|away: and working rev is 100rev more, daniele wrote me right one yesterday but I overlooked change in hundrets.. and because I wasn't sure what are "sliders" then I didn't test much (because it was just 10 more revs :/) Jan 15 21:03:41 mrmoku|away: regarding this ticket: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/699#comment:2 , I think phonefsod should be extended to be an bluez and obexd agent. Because it needs to be able to show a popup for entering a pin and other things... Jan 15 21:11:06 Heinervdm: do you have the same issue with illume keyboard someone just posted on ML? Jan 15 21:11:38 JaMa|W: what topic? Jan 15 21:11:47 Heinervdm: i think phonefsod should do less Jan 15 21:11:58 and rather add a new fso subsubsystem Jan 15 21:12:08 as most of that stuff could be interesting to non-SHR as well Jan 15 21:12:21 at least the things that have no UI connection Jan 15 21:12:26 something to think about Jan 15 21:12:28 bbiab Jan 15 21:12:41 mickeyl: the dialog part has to be implemenet in phonefsod Jan 15 21:13:02 the other part can be in fso tooo Jan 15 21:13:37 an issue I have, and that is maybe related to EFL, is with the idle_screen. When closed using the slider, apps like messages, or dialer, are closed too Jan 15 21:13:45 yeah, we should talk when we have a chance about where to draw "the line" Jan 15 21:13:48 closing idle_screen with AUX works, though Jan 15 21:15:08 mickey|bbl, how often fso sync time via ntp? Jan 15 21:15:24 I think latest shr-U kernel have bug Jan 15 21:15:41 diff time now about 10mins after 4 days of usage neo Jan 15 21:15:56 (no reboot/no fso restart) Jan 15 21:16:21 JaMa|W: read my question? Can't find the a message about an keyboard issue Jan 15 21:17:15 Does anybody except me tried run neo so long? connected to gprs/etc Jan 15 21:17:33 e.g. who else have "time" problem? Jan 15 21:17:49 mine is powered off more often then powered on ;) Jan 15 21:18:07 Heinervdm, dim slider broken, last message in shr-user Jan 15 21:18:43 max_posedon: perhaps your battery is going flat. Some users in the german forum reported about flat batterys Jan 15 21:18:55 Heinervdm: sorry .. [Shr-User] [shr-u] dim slider broken Jan 15 21:19:28 Heinervdm, flat? I don't think so, and I defenetly want time sync, if neo have working gprs connection Jan 15 21:19:31 JaMa|W: yes i had that issue too, but tought it was an illusion Jan 15 21:19:36 all sliders were broken today, right? Is the EFL upgrade already in? Jan 15 21:20:02 spaetz: they were broken about a week ago imho Jan 15 21:20:03 funny how the screen goes all dark, when you touch the brightnesssider Jan 15 21:20:10 spaetz: new EFL already built Jan 15 21:20:27 ahh, haven't updated unstable for more than a week, just today :) Jan 15 21:20:45 spaetz: rootfs are building.. but tasks, index and rsync already done Jan 15 21:20:46 and I never get a SIM PIN dialog so something else is broken too :) Jan 15 21:20:50 cool Jan 15 21:20:56 spaetz, maybe you get Jan 15 21:20:59 and it's closed Jan 15 21:21:03 buildhost is just too darn slow. Jan 15 21:21:13 max_posedon: yes it should do that, not so often but perhaps one time in a day Jan 15 21:21:15 like messages, contacts are dialer Jan 15 21:21:19 btw is there Joshua Judson Rosen ? Jan 15 21:21:21 or* Jan 15 21:21:32 s/ t/ / Jan 15 21:21:34 JaMa|W meant: btw is here Joshua Judson Rosen ? Jan 15 21:22:02 wow, its about 16mins already Jan 15 21:22:20 max_posedon: normally the FR should keep the time, but as i said several users reported that ther FR forgets the time after reboot because there system battery is flat Jan 15 21:22:32 Heinervdm, once more Jan 15 21:22:34 no any reboot Jan 15 21:22:39 only suspend Jan 15 21:22:53 rozzin: ah :) checking what you said on ML Jan 15 21:22:58 4 days working phone, no reboot no fso restart Jan 15 21:23:13 4 days? With deep sleep, so? Jan 15 21:23:16 gprs online all time ( except during calls) Jan 15 21:23:25 ThibG, I sometimes charge it Jan 15 21:23:30 max_posedon: yes but i think as any clock is going slower with weak battery, perhaps it's the same with the RTC on the FR Jan 15 21:23:34 ah ok Jan 15 21:24:21 max_posedon: slightly off-topic: are you able to keep the gprs connection alive for 4 days? Mine stops working after some time (varies), and I have to cycle it Jan 15 21:24:27 rozzin: not sure where I got ',' Conflicts: bzip2, (<=, 1.05-r0.4) if I use RCONFLICTS_libbz2 = "bzip2 (<= 1.05-r0.4)" in bzip2*.recipe Jan 15 21:25:10 budfive, sometimes yes, I able Jan 15 21:25:35 cycle? no, for me it sometimes broken so much, that nothing helps except reboot Jan 15 21:25:37 rozzin: but in runtime_mapping_rename it is still OK Jan 15 21:25:38 NOTE: RCONFLICTS before: bzip2 (<= 1.05-r0.4) Jan 15 21:25:38 NOTE: RCONFLICTS after: bzip2 (<= 1.05-r0.4) Jan 15 21:25:53 budfive, but gprs reconnects every call I think (or kinda this) Jan 15 21:26:12 so, may be my "cycles" done automtically Jan 15 21:26:48 max_posedon: hmmm. I don't believe that's the case. If I tell FSO to bring down the gprs connection and then back up, then it works. But calls don't fix it Jan 15 21:26:53 spaetz: hackable is also still building ... Jan 15 21:27:21 max_posedon: in its broken state, everything appears to work, except no bits can get out Jan 15 21:27:22 budfive, call of course doesn't fix, but calls forces restart Jan 15 21:27:42 max_posedon: restart what? I don't think I understand what you're saying Jan 15 21:28:10 budfive, neo can't have gprs and phone call in one time I think Jan 15 21:28:18 you can try ping google.com and make call Jan 15 21:28:34 max_posedon: correct Jan 15 21:29:26 max_posedon: yeah, sure. I see what you're saying. Whatever is killing my connection must be on a higher level than that, since calls don't affect it in that state Jan 15 21:30:45 max_posedon: I dunno if gprs reconnect after call is handled by fso or by modem itself Jan 15 21:31:08 max_posedon: u need to query mickey|office about it Jan 15 21:31:15 yay, the issue I've been talking about is related to the sliders thing and is therefore fixed \o/ Jan 15 21:31:36 DocScrutinizer51, I think pppd did it Jan 15 21:31:40 or, smth like this Jan 15 21:31:58 because ppp0 update-to-zero RX and TX Jan 15 21:32:09 but I don't disconnect from irc Jan 15 21:32:16 (e.g. my APN love me) Jan 15 21:32:22 DocScrutinizer-8: I was pretty sure this happens internally to the modem hardware, without involving pppd Jan 15 21:32:35 budfive, look at your RX and TX Jan 15 21:33:06 max_posedon: hmmm. interesting idea Jan 15 21:33:24 but I'm not sure how long should be call Jan 15 21:33:30 how would pppd possibly get to know about call finished? Jan 15 21:33:36 max_posedon: if they do reset to 0, then the connection death could simply be a pppd configuration issue Jan 15 21:34:17 budfive, it means pppd reconnects itself Jan 15 21:34:59 budfive, man pppd / persist Jan 15 21:35:21 I seen gprs atalling (and pppd dieing or freezing) on calls that *exceed a certain duration* Jan 15 21:36:17 prolly when pppd detects gprs down and tries reconnect with no succes Jan 15 21:36:22 I'll run some experiments this weekend Jan 15 21:37:43 ~lart KDE4 Jan 15 21:37:44 * apt stamps KDE4 on the forehead with the official Troll marker Jan 15 21:37:55 ~shoot KDE4 Jan 15 21:37:56 * apt shoots KDE4 in the foot with a spitwad! Jan 15 21:38:06 ~kill KDE4 Jan 15 21:38:08 * apt shoots a inverse fluxphoton gun at KDE4 Jan 15 21:38:30 so much OT Jan 15 21:38:47 'night Jan 15 21:40:03 btw Jan 15 21:40:12 ~wtf lart Jan 15 21:40:14 LART: luser attitude readjustment tool (ie, hammer) Jan 15 22:22:22 JaMa|W: i did a rebuild from scratch, and now there is ps from busybox used in my image... Jan 15 22:25:07 and shr-wizard doesn't start Jan 15 22:27:00 Heinervdm: rebuild from scratch - whole tmp dir gone? Jan 15 22:27:12 Heinervdm: show me that files-in-image file Jan 15 22:27:38 JaMa|W: started shr-wizard manually and i got an error... Jan 15 22:28:13 Heinervdm: or you can compare with files-in-image from shr buildhost.. where it's correct (after -cworth-native removal about 3 days ago) Jan 15 22:28:53 JaMa|W: http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr-dist/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100115-om-gta02-testlab/ Jan 15 22:30:13 ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/elementary/c_elementary.so: undefined symbol: elm_hoversel_item_del_cb_set Jan 15 22:30:48 Heinervdm: ah seems like -lite is missing procps package Jan 15 22:31:13 yes, it's not in the installed-packages Jan 15 22:31:46 Heinervdm: strange.. seems like symbol which disappered 3 EFL bumps ago, then reappered 2 bumps ago and now it's gone again :/ Jan 15 22:32:14 Heinervdm: ah didn't know that it's not in lite, can you please check what's pulling it to full? Jan 15 22:32:59 JaMa|W: will check but have to set up some other things first on the FR Jan 15 22:33:00 I'm going to bed now.. but I know that I resolved one bug as INVALID (as it looked like busybox/u-a error, but it's not if it's missing procps in -lite) Jan 15 22:35:42 Heinervdm: hmm http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100115-om-gta02-testlab/files-in-image.txt has procps.. Jan 15 22:35:57 JaMa|W: hmm **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 15 22:50:31 2010 Jan 15 22:51:53 hmm elementary List in shr-messages behaves strange Jan 15 22:54:55 it scrolls always back to the beginning Jan 15 22:54:55 And in my image i don't have the problem that a button press pops up the keyboard Jan 15 22:56:57 * JaMa reflashing.. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 15 23:09:17 2010 Jan 15 23:17:00 Sent a patch to update vagalume to the latest version, and also fix the missing icon thingi Jan 15 23:21:18 Heinervdm_: and also missing checksum :) Jan 15 23:21:28 Heinervdm_: do you want to resend or should I add it? Jan 15 23:21:38 closing ffalarms results in a segfault... Jan 15 23:22:22 Heinervdm_: btw could you look at error in recipes/matchbox2/matchbox-panel-2_svn.bb if it's possible to fix warning ( we added Wno-error :/) Jan 16 01:04:18 mrmoku|away: can you check http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/461/, last patch in shr/merge :) you in c82b036a492267b06da8c3c3ad6940ac60b3688a and Heinervdm 3cb3a0e5d2162444e9d4ff8bef1d7c5b14f15a3c touched that last.. Jan 16 01:09:01 mrmoku|away: and after that change, we can switch branch in Makefile to shr/unstable (with only srcpv changes) or to srcpv branch if you don't mind the name :) and save one git merge Jan 16 01:26:01 mrmoku|away: and we need to revert to DISTRO_TYPE debug or include procps in images again Jan 16 01:45:29 mrmoku|away: ah nvm .. I added procps as xserver-init-nodm dependency **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 16 02:59:56 2010