**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 05 02:59:56 2010 Feb 05 09:43:44 is there anything wrong with 2.6.29+UBIFS? it's working great for me here, just curious why the Wiki doesn't mention that it's possible Feb 05 09:45:15 Weiss: somebody on ML just asked that.. Feb 05 09:45:27 Weiss, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ubifs "max_posedon provided some bonnie++ results using kernel 2.6.29" Feb 05 09:45:40 so, wiki says that its possible) Feb 05 09:45:43 JaMa|Gone: yeah, hence my question :) Feb 05 09:46:28 Weiss, its just because of history reason, nobody had success before I found out that BGT is show stopper Feb 05 09:47:24 BGT? Feb 05 09:48:01 Backgroud Thread in debug options for ubifs driver Feb 05 09:48:12 ah Feb 05 09:48:51 after enabling disabling (! :) ) its started works for most people Feb 05 09:48:54 SHR-t + UBIFS is fast enough for general use without embarrasment :) Feb 05 09:49:12 SHR-t + UBIFS + waitq + FIFO should be nicer still Feb 05 09:49:29 could anyone with a recent shr-unstable version check which version of packagekit is installed? Feb 05 09:49:56 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rbd5cbf7c082e 10/ (44 files in 8 dirs): rename misc-vapi to misc Feb 05 09:49:57 Weiss, why? Feb 05 09:50:23 ubifs is nice async itself) Feb 05 09:52:23 hmm.. you mean the speed improvement is just async vs sync? Feb 05 09:53:07 ext2/3 async also looks good from those numbers Feb 05 09:54:14 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r43bb9389486d 10/misc/vapi/posixextra.vapi: misc: posixextra.vapi: remove stuff that has been applied upstream Feb 05 09:57:42 mickey|office, mickey|office could you look at fsogsmd init once more? or say how I can initialuze it at least once Feb 05 09:58:36 its always close modem, and can't reopen it Feb 05 10:00:57 JaMa|Gone: it runs on gta01 Feb 05 10:02:53 JaMa|Gone: calibration don't first time, I had to rerun it and it works now Feb 05 10:03:29 ynezz: calling ok? Feb 05 10:03:52 JaMa|Gone: maybe it would be good to remove wifi stuff from gta01, since it doesn't have wifi I think Feb 05 10:03:59 ynezz: can you check those ubifs params? Feb 05 10:04:06 JaMa|Gone: didn't tried calling yet Feb 05 10:04:19 how can I check those ubifs params? Feb 05 10:04:30 you have empty nand right? Feb 05 10:04:35 the image is bigger than available space Feb 05 10:04:53 I can empty NAND, it's no problem :) Feb 05 10:05:20 ynezz: mtd4 is rootfs on gta01 too? Feb 05 10:05:46 if yes: ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 4 Feb 05 10:05:52 I have only mtd0 Feb 05 10:06:19 maybe wrong config somewhere Feb 05 10:06:39 I don't have neo running, but maybe you need to modprobe kernel module first Feb 05 10:06:47 to see mtdblock* Feb 05 10:07:00 yes, I've only mtdblock0 Feb 05 10:07:23 partitions are handled by something like mtdpart params Feb 05 10:07:26 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd6 Feb 05 10:07:27 ubiformat /dev/mtd6 Feb 05 10:07:27 ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 6 Feb 05 10:07:27 ubimkvol /dev/ubi0 -m -N rootfs Feb 05 10:07:39 sorry it's in mtd6 not mtd4 here Feb 05 10:08:09 ynezz: ah you think that even kernel was booted with wrong mtdpart param? Feb 05 10:08:31 it looks so if there's only mtd0 now Feb 05 10:08:44 and it's possible that mtd0 is NOR.. but I'm not sure if gta01 has RO nor :) Feb 05 10:09:03 I'll look into it then Feb 05 10:09:04 PaulFertser: ping, you would know ^^^^^ Feb 05 10:09:50 ynezz, look at dmesg Feb 05 10:10:06 and at boot params Feb 05 10:10:07 ynezz: the params are then shown in dmesg.. check them against conf/machine/om-gta01.conf Feb 05 10:10:18 ynezz: and send me diff Feb 05 10:10:32 1. does uboot passed mtd part table? Feb 05 10:10:48 2. what kernel found? Feb 05 10:13:52 mickey|office: I'll bump fsodeviced and fsogsmd, after test rebuild now (checking vapi dir diff) and I've also recipe for fso-boot if you think it's worth adding to oe already Feb 05 10:17:16 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r33f289d8fa42 10/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: mdbus2: fix off-by-one error in container parsing; fix parsing structs Feb 05 10:25:36 JaMa|Gone: btw. there's nothing about mtdparts in om-gta01.conf Feb 05 10:25:46 so it must be in kernel config Feb 05 10:27:58 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r3e75d0ab3e33 10/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: mdbus2: fix bogus ',' in containers Feb 05 10:30:06 mrmoku|away: still working on this or is it fixed? http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/881 Feb 05 10:33:26 ynezz: not mtdparts but ubi params MKUBIFS_ARGS = "-m 2048 -e 126976 -c 2047" and UBINIZE_ARGS = "-m 2048 -p 128KiB -s 2048 -O 2048" Feb 05 10:33:46 ynezz: there is also comment explaining what you should see in dmesg for coresponding params Feb 05 10:34:26 JaMa|Gone: (fso-boot) sure, why not, thanks Feb 05 10:35:04 max_posedon: did you request the resource? Feb 05 10:38:17 hi people Feb 05 10:38:19 mickey|office: btw, where is misc used? it's just storage for modified vapis or should all fso recipes be rebuilt to pick updated vapi from misc? Feb 05 10:38:29 when do you arrive in bruxelles ? Feb 05 10:38:50 JaMa|Gone: mtdparts tells mtd driver how to create mtd0-mtdX block devices, how to split the NAND Feb 05 10:38:57 JaMa|Gone: misc should not be used at all, it's a junk yard for vapi experiments Feb 05 10:38:59 JaMa|Gone: I don't see any comment about this Feb 05 10:39:09 JaMa|Gone: these days I'm working closely with upstream Feb 05 10:39:31 Deubeuliou: i'll be there tomorrow morning Feb 05 10:39:38 JaMa|Gone: MKUBIFS is about filesystem on mtd block device, nothing about mtd config, right? Feb 05 10:39:52 ok mickey|office Feb 05 10:39:52 ynezz: sorry for confusing you... and yes nothing about mtd config Feb 05 10:40:08 I'll be there in 3 hours Feb 05 10:40:12 ynezz: I want that diff of ubi params *after* you resolve missing mtdparts Feb 05 10:46:38 mickey|office, yes and received can't open modem Feb 05 10:46:39 it created only mtd0 partition nao1973-nand Feb 05 10:46:52 JaMa|Gone: what's wrong with fsousage? GSM is not enabling Feb 05 10:47:17 fgsmd & ; sleep 20; fso-raw -r gsm sleep 3600 Feb 05 10:47:51 mickey|office, this is like what i did, tried 20 times - same result always Feb 05 10:53:47 JaMa|Gone, max_posedon1: it created only mtd0 partition neo1973-nand with size 0x04000000, and no others, because size is wrong Feb 05 10:54:28 what's going on with shr git? Feb 05 10:54:36 can't connect anymore Feb 05 10:56:05 JaMa|Gone, max_posedon1: should be something like mtdparts mtdparts=gta01-0:0x00030000(u-boot),0x00004000(u-boot env),0x00208000(kernel),0x00400000(initrd),0x039c4000(rootfs) Feb 05 10:57:33 hmm whole buildhost is unreachable for me... Feb 05 10:57:39 max_posedon: logs? Feb 05 11:09:45 Heinervdm: port 22: Connection timed out too Feb 05 11:10:08 JaMa|Gone: trac is avaible but build. and git. not Feb 05 11:10:21 Q-Master: nothing wrong with fousage/GSM here Feb 05 11:21:38 JaMa|Gone: hm. rebooted and everything seems ok now Feb 05 11:24:41 JaMa|Gone: can you pls cat /proc/mtd on FR? Feb 05 11:25:21 I have now mtd0(u-boot),mtd1(uboot_env),mtd2(kernel),mtd3(rootfs) available Feb 05 11:26:38 and this settings for mtd are in uboot Feb 05 11:28:28 ynezz: no FR running.. it's in bag as I'm going to visit parents for weekend Feb 05 11:28:51 ynezz: and here at work I won't setup usb network connection to copy&paste that :) Feb 05 11:29:10 ynezz: because I have to use win here :/ Feb 05 11:29:35 ynezz: but 4 partitions seems right.. Feb 05 11:30:14 ttp://88.198.93.221/wiki/GTA02_partitions Feb 05 11:30:37 and for you http://88.198.93.221/wiki/Neo_1973_Partitions Feb 05 11:37:13 Deubeuliou: can you check what's going on with h:1 / shr buildhost? Feb 05 11:45:29 mickey|office: fsodatad installs different config.vapi then vala-native, is it still needed? Feb 05 11:46:02 mickey|office: 3 more .vapi are changed during rebuild.. I'll inform in a minute which recipe changes that Feb 05 11:46:56 mickey|office: config.vapi from fsodatad has extra public const string MBPI_DATABASE_PATH; Feb 05 11:59:18 mickey|office: readline.vapi changed in fso-term and is much shorter Feb 05 12:03:54 mickey|office: and last libfsobasics_git.bb is changing libnl-2.0.vapi and linux.vapi Feb 05 12:10:27 mickey|office: heh config.vapi si then changed again in libgsm0710mux_git to same version as vala-native Feb 05 12:11:12 what's the special fun in posting IP unstead of DomainName recently?? Feb 05 12:14:39 DocScrutinizer: if you mean that wiki page I posted.. then it's because google returned ip.. Feb 05 12:15:00 tzzz Feb 05 12:15:03 http://www.google.cz/search?source=ig&hl=cs&rlz=&q=gta02+partitions&btnG=Vyhledat+Googlem&meta=lr%3D&aq=f&oq= Feb 05 12:15:19 I was too lazy to replace or follow 3rd link Feb 05 12:16:21 following raw IP is strongly discourraged Feb 05 12:17:45 how come? Feb 05 12:18:37 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=site:openmoko.org+gta02+partitions&aq=f&aqi=&oq= Feb 05 12:19:46 http://www.google.cz/search?q=site:openmoko.org+gta02+partitions&aq=f&aqi=&oq= Feb 05 12:20:15 http://www.google.cz/search?q=site:openmoko.org+gta02+partitions Feb 05 12:21:07 jaacoppi: rogue site may hide behind raw IP Feb 05 12:22:58 JaMa|Gone: config.vapi are per-app Feb 05 12:23:13 consider them being part of the autotools stuff Feb 05 12:23:30 DocScrutinizer: in this case.. my cat /proc/mtd on gta02 would be probably more wrong for gta01, then everage evil rogue site :) Feb 05 12:23:32 similarly -> http://www.google.de/search?q=site:http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/+glamo Feb 05 12:23:45 mickey|office: then why it's pushed to staging dir? Feb 05 12:24:53 DocScrutinizer: dns can be faked more easily Feb 05 12:25:14 ummm Feb 05 12:25:21 i doubt that dns can be faked more easyly than no dns Feb 05 12:25:39 mickey|office, logs will be avaible only at evening, sorry Feb 05 12:26:09 JaMa|Gone: see vala.bbclass Feb 05 12:27:24 you should not go to a site you don't know, be it IP or DNS. DNS is another layer of complexion -> more possible vulnerabilities Feb 05 12:27:38 JaMa|Gone: perhaps we should introduce: VALA_DONT_STAGE_VAPIS Feb 05 12:28:14 or a regular expression for exceptions Feb 05 12:28:27 since vala.bbclass does not know which vapi to stage and which not Feb 05 12:28:39 this will all be fixed w/ automake 1.11 Feb 05 12:28:53 but i don't know when this will make its way into OE Feb 05 12:30:54 mickey|office: http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr.images/0001-vala.bbclass-dont-put-config.vapi-to-staging.patch Feb 05 12:31:35 you're right I should make it nicer with VALA_DONT_STAGE_VAPIS Feb 05 12:32:27 or even list vapis for staging in recipe VALA_DONT_STAGE_VAPIS Feb 05 12:32:32 dont_stab_vampis Feb 05 12:32:35 s/DONT_// Feb 05 12:32:35 JaMa|Gone meant: or even list vapis for staging in recipe VALA_STAGE_VAPIS Feb 05 12:36:04 * DocScrutinizer hands a nice fsausage to vampi Feb 05 12:39:42 mickey|office: if you're interested in script I used for checking staged vapis http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr.images/vala.diff.sh Feb 05 12:45:21 JaMa|Gone: I'd rather go for blacklisting than whitelisting, otherwise we have to include all the hundreds that vala-native ships :) Feb 05 12:53:32 WTF is wrong with wiki?? check source of arbitrary site: >> href="http://88.198.93.221/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss" << Feb 05 12:53:34 http://www.google.cz/search?hl=de&q=88.198.93.221 Feb 05 12:53:51 :-(((( Feb 05 12:54:34 who's in charge of basic wiki maintanance? Feb 05 12:55:30 JaMa|Gone: I think, thaht I can't test UBI, because gta01 is running 2.6.29 kernel... Feb 05 12:55:30 mickey|office: updated http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr.images/0001-vala.bbclass-dont-put-config.vapi-to-staging.patch, testing now :) Feb 05 12:55:45 JaMa|Gone: /dev/ubi_ctrl missing Feb 05 12:56:00 ynezz: 2.6.29 would be fine.. but I probably didn't updated defconfig for gta01 :/ Feb 05 12:57:21 roh: ping Feb 05 13:00:25 JaMa|Gone: ah :) Feb 05 13:01:18 ynezz: I'll rebuild it in a minute.. Feb 05 13:03:18 JaMa|Gone: wow, thanks Feb 05 13:03:42 seems like it would be better to build it myself and send you patches... Feb 05 13:03:54 I mean build shr-unstable Feb 05 13:04:14 but this way it's faster :) Feb 05 13:07:01 ynezz: it's building already.. download -r8 kernel as soone as it's in gta01 dir and try Feb 05 13:11:58 please anybody a clue whom to pester for elementary changes in openmoko wiki? Feb 05 13:20:30 JaMa|Gone: ok, thanks a bunch Feb 05 13:49:15 JaMa|Gone: ynezz mtd0 is NOR indeed Feb 05 13:49:30 JaMa|Gone: ynezz: but not on gta01, gta01 has no NOR at all. Feb 05 13:50:17 PaulFertser: and is it "normal" that u-boot doesn't pass mtdparts? Feb 05 13:50:32 PaulFertser: or maybe some odd version of u-boot ynezz has? Feb 05 13:51:51 PaulFertser: because Qi pass those params even when booting from uSD, which is usefull for mounting mtd partition later.. but I imagine u-boot environment not setting mtdparts for option boot from uSD.. Feb 05 13:52:05 JaMa|Gone: u-boot passes only parameters that are specified by its environment. Feb 05 13:52:31 JaMa|Gone: since uboot env is user-modifiable, a user has good chances to mess those up. Feb 05 13:53:07 and is it specified in u-boot shipped with gta01? I mean is it default to pass it for booting from uSD? Feb 05 13:53:35 yes I remmber messing with that before.. Feb 05 13:55:38 JaMa|Gone: i think yes, but i'm not sure. Anyway, anybody who uses u-boot should know how to configure it :) Feb 05 13:55:52 JaMa|Gone: patch looks good, however there's no need to differenciate between vapi and deps. installing a .deps without a .vapi makes no sense, they're always bound. So we can simplify the interface to just one VARIABLE Feb 05 14:04:18 mickey|office: ok, will update it later.. Feb 05 14:04:26 enjoy fosdem.. Feb 05 14:04:32 * JaMa|Gone off for weekend Feb 05 14:14:44 PaulFertser, JaMa|Gone: I've corrected mtdparts in uboot and now it's ok Feb 05 14:15:10 PaulFertser, JaMa|Gone: you need to setenv mtdparts with correct values, that's all Feb 05 14:15:35 ynezz: sounds sane :) Feb 05 14:15:55 PaulFertser, JaMa|Gone: I was able to flash_erase and ubiformat /dev/mtd4, it's about 60MB so it looks ok Feb 05 14:16:01 hi, just a quick update about our current campaign against the apple ipad: http://www.sorbaioli.org/blog/2010/02/05/ipad-is-defective-by-design/ Feb 05 15:02:49 who cares about Diabolic Restrictive Madness on a iDevice? Feb 05 15:08:54 love it or leave it. It's mainly designed as an ebook reader, and you probably won't make ebooks fly without DRM Feb 05 15:11:27 not even music mafia understood completely yet how DRM is killing their business. print media publishers are far from even thinking about concepts to make a living from freely distributable content Feb 05 15:15:40 s/freely distributable/non DRM ball-chained Feb 05 16:50:41 so, who's going to be at the beer event? Feb 05 17:00:57 DocScrutinizer: How can a device that uses an LCD screen even qualify for an ebook reader? LCD sucks (although I do 99% of my reading on one) Feb 05 17:02:52 thrashold: what kind of answer do you expect *from me* ? Feb 05 17:03:06 haha, I don't know :0 Feb 05 17:08:07 Yeah, I agree. LCD's suck; we should use CRTs. Feb 05 17:08:53 ebook reading will be for those who are *truely committed* to reading ;-) Feb 05 17:10:24 mwester: Haha :D :D Don't remind me, please :D Feb 05 17:27:26 * DocScrutinizer remembers the first sony watchman. Damn that's been a cool CRT design Feb 05 17:28:21 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchman Feb 05 17:47:35 hi how to know where SMS's are saved ? and how to change it on shr-t Feb 05 17:51:40 hi Feb 05 17:56:02 hi Se Feb 05 17:56:06 Serdar: Feb 05 17:57:22 Heinervdm, Deubeuliou, mickey|zzZZzz I will look in bruessel for a headset so we can try to record. If you have other ideas or your own headset/micro/etc. you can take it. Feb 05 17:59:07 spaetz, please migrate unstable to testing :P (or at least shr-apps and frameworkd) Feb 05 18:08:08 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rc9361fb8b5a6 10/msmcterm/src/msmcterm.c: msmcterm: cleanup a little bit and now use a callback for reading data from modem Feb 05 18:08:08 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rba21bcb3a585 10/libmsmcomm/src/context.c: libmsmcomm: return length of received data after read operation Feb 05 18:12:08 JaMa|Gone: seems ok http://pastebin.ca/1787257 Feb 05 18:24:09 g'evening Feb 05 18:24:18 * blindcoder just noticed shr still has no mms support :( Feb 05 18:24:40 aye :| Feb 05 18:24:54 don't even know who sent it as sender is 0000 Feb 05 18:24:54 I suck, it's my "job" Feb 05 18:25:00 I didn't even get there yet though. Feb 05 18:25:08 blindcoder, maybe the provider? or spam? Feb 05 18:25:14 it's your job to suck? how good are you and can you teach my gf? :) Feb 05 18:25:31 TAsn: provider might be, spam would be the firt Feb 05 18:25:47 t-mobile recently started sending mms to customers with 'why don't you use mms?' Feb 05 18:26:08 blindcoder, I don't do boys, only software. Feb 05 18:26:17 blindcoder, that's probably it. Feb 05 18:26:26 blindcoder, and I consider it spam from your provider :P Feb 05 18:27:18 hehe, okay then :) Feb 05 18:27:31 argh, accidentally surrendered to the police (spacetrader) Feb 05 18:27:40 :P Feb 05 18:41:56 in my case, I get a MMS from some number (something like 000 or 060) and a few days later, I receive a SMS from my provider, giving me a link to retrieve the MMS Feb 05 18:42:33 oh, thatk would be good then :) Feb 05 18:42:52 and i don't retrieve mms at all ;) Feb 05 18:43:02 but i know my provider also sends sms with link after some time Feb 05 18:44:18 that would also be great. I still hope to be able to use the FR with SHR daily Feb 05 18:47:53 ThibG, same here. Feb 05 19:27:45 DocScrutinizer, hi!, are you familiar with n900? Could you try find out, if they use sqlite for contacts/pim. and if yes, dump it? Feb 05 19:27:49 (dump schema) Feb 05 19:29:43 afaik it doesn't use sqlite for contacts Feb 05 19:30:27 well, I'm not sure Feb 05 19:30:44 might give 'find' a try while dining Feb 05 19:31:46 anyway N900 contacts is *not* a really good implementation Feb 05 19:32:34 so i get it you need that for bad example :-) Feb 05 19:32:47 they might be not good from UI Feb 05 19:32:50 but nice in db) Feb 05 19:33:08 not really Feb 05 19:33:31 I'm optimistic person Feb 05 19:33:34 unless they really messed the UI fubar Feb 05 19:33:34 very) Feb 05 19:33:59 no user defined fields Feb 05 19:35:08 its really succs, but if you will find db , I'll be happy anyway Feb 05 19:35:20 kk Feb 05 19:40:16 max_posedon: /home/user/.osso-abook/db/addressbook.db Feb 05 19:41:09 echo ".dump" Feb 05 19:41:18 echo ".dump" | sqlite3 /home/user/.osso-abook/db/addressbook.db Feb 05 19:46:53 hm, is it safe to upgrade SHR-u, now? Feb 05 19:51:39 BEGIN TRANSACTION; COMMIT Feb 05 19:57:08 DocScrutinizer51, it means empty db?!) what about some other db?) Feb 05 19:58:44 DocScrutinizer51, it means empty db?!) what about some other db?) Feb 05 20:00:48 the file is 12k and i got some dozen contacts Feb 05 20:01:47 could you filter out your private info say, with vim, and show me the rest Feb 05 20:02:00 I'm not sure that sqlite can't dump only scheme Feb 05 20:09:10 sure Feb 05 20:13:05 sqlite> .tables * Feb 05 20:13:29 Error: file is encrypted or is not a database Feb 05 20:14:46 TAsn: haven't you realised that this aee ipk was from me? Feb 05 20:15:12 Heinervdm, no :P Feb 05 20:15:16 * TAsn is an overlooking idiot. Feb 05 20:15:17 :) Feb 05 20:15:39 That answer looked a bit strange to me ;) Feb 05 20:16:14 hehe Feb 05 20:16:54 i would like to package minisip, but that's a really complicated thing... Feb 05 20:34:19 Heinervdm: (881) that one is fixed in my tree by rewriting the contacts... it still has another problem... cannot push it yet :/ Feb 05 20:34:52 TAsn: rebuild status? Feb 05 20:35:04 mrmoku, done Feb 05 20:35:07 mrmoku: ok Feb 05 20:35:14 review status: no idea what's causing this behavior Feb 05 20:35:36 TAsn: you're running phoneuid on your desktop, right? Feb 05 20:35:36 mrmoku, maybe you should try to explicitly delete all the subobjects? Feb 05 20:35:39 (no idea) Feb 05 20:35:40 mrmoku, yes. Feb 05 20:35:48 do you get good backtraces? Feb 05 20:35:56 yes Feb 05 20:36:08 because backtraces on FR are unusable... Feb 05 20:36:12 :P Feb 05 20:36:23 wait, you are talking about the seg? Feb 05 20:36:26 yup Feb 05 20:36:30 I don't get a seg Feb 05 20:36:38 I only get a screen not closing Feb 05 20:36:47 (same e version as on the fr) Feb 05 20:36:51 ahh... yeah, when you turn on autodel you get a seg Feb 05 20:36:58 mrmoku, oh. Feb 05 20:37:02 that makes sense Feb 05 20:37:02 ... Feb 05 20:37:10 when autodel is on Feb 05 20:37:45 you delete the window twice Feb 05 20:37:46 ... Feb 05 20:37:58 (once in ui_utils and once automatically) Feb 05 20:38:26 hmm... IIRC it segfaulted without the delete in ui_utils too Feb 05 20:38:38 mrmoku, yes Feb 05 20:38:44 oh Feb 05 20:39:02 evas_object_del(view->layout); Feb 05 20:39:03 evas_object_del(view->background); Feb 05 20:39:03 evas_object_del(view->win); Feb 05 20:39:09 in ui_utils_view_deinit Feb 05 20:39:17 I probably should have added a check Feb 05 20:39:24 to see whether autodel is on or not Feb 05 20:39:25 :| Feb 05 20:39:35 though I think I handled it Feb 05 20:39:38 sec, let me verify Feb 05 20:41:17 btw Feb 05 20:41:24 evas_object_smart_callback_add(view->win, "delete,request", Feb 05 20:41:24 (Evas_Smart_Cb) _view_delete_callback, view); Feb 05 20:41:35 the destroy_callback you provide Feb 05 20:41:41 is already called upon delete,request Feb 05 20:41:44 so this may be it... Feb 05 20:41:57 (you registered another callback to delete request, haven't you?) Feb 05 20:43:01 no, tried with only one Feb 05 20:43:13 * mrmoku tried almost everything :/ Feb 05 20:43:21 mrmoku, this is done automatically in ui_utils Feb 05 20:43:24 anyhow, from what I'm seeing Feb 05 20:43:32 (strike out last line) Feb 05 20:44:11 anyhow, you don't need to register a delete,request in contact-view.c Feb 05 20:44:24 as the destroy callabck you provided is already called on destroy Feb 05 20:44:39 and it's your responsibility to call view_deinit if you want in the destroy function Feb 05 20:44:46 (which you do in this case) Feb 05 20:45:02 which would recurse into the destroy-cb ;) Feb 05 20:45:33 mrmoku, hm... Feb 05 20:45:36 oh, right. Feb 05 20:45:37 :| Feb 05 20:45:45 :P Feb 05 20:46:06 ok, just leave it, and I'll make it work tomorrow, ok? :P Feb 05 20:46:41 fine... because I should still do some daywork :P Feb 05 20:47:10 delete,request is the new name, right? Feb 05 20:47:18 yup Feb 05 20:47:51 ciao. Feb 05 20:48:05 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui-shr * rd60258743724 10/src/util/ui-utils.c: Changed ui-utils.c to use the new 'delete,request' instead of the old 'delete-request' Feb 05 20:48:09 does a navigation software exist for shr? Feb 05 20:48:22 Serdar: navit Feb 05 20:48:32 does it work well? Feb 05 20:49:25 never actually used it myself... so no idea Feb 05 20:49:52 hmm Feb 05 20:52:26 Serdar: it's slow, but it works Feb 05 20:53:06 Serdar: i already navigated successfully few times with navit (when walking) and reached destination without problems ;) Feb 05 20:54:18 hmm but no driving? Feb 05 20:54:40 he's too ypung for that ;) Feb 05 20:54:51 s/ypung/young/ Feb 05 20:54:51 soltys meant: he's too young for that ;) Feb 05 20:58:15 there are some online nav services that use the openstreetmap database. Some of these are integrated into tangogps Feb 05 20:58:35 you won't get turn-by-turn directions, but it'll draw a track that you should follow, which is almost as good Feb 05 20:58:55 and you'll need an active network connection, obviously Feb 05 21:04:11 Serdar: no driving, but only because i can't drive :P Feb 05 21:04:57 dos1: you can ride your bike Feb 05 21:05:23 dos1: or motorbike Feb 05 21:05:25 ;) Feb 05 21:05:36 PaulFertser: yup, but when i'm riding bike i rarely need gps navigation ;) Feb 05 21:06:43 Walking is definetely more challenging ;) Feb 05 21:08:08 PaulFertser: i used navit when searching some place from train station in different town or something like that ;) Feb 05 21:10:16 dos1: i can't even reliably use gprs on my FR :( i have to restart frameworkd+ophonekitd several times before i'm able to connect. And i'm still not using opimd etc etc. My experience as a user is more than awful :( Feb 05 21:10:34 dos1: i know you'll say use shr Feb 05 21:10:39 But i do not like stupid opkg Feb 05 21:10:42 OE breakages Feb 05 21:10:45 etc etc Feb 05 21:10:45 PaulFertser: stop giving me sad feelings please Feb 05 21:10:48 PaulFertser: you're using ophonekitd? Feb 05 21:11:07 there is still no phonefsod/phoneuid in Debian? Feb 05 21:11:25 I never installed something at shr Feb 05 21:11:39 dos1: i'm afraid to try to upgrade tbh, there was some breakage in xorg stuff or the like recently. Feb 05 21:11:40 PaulFertser: you're just lame. 8))) Feb 05 21:12:12 Q-Master: it might be more true than you think :/ Feb 05 21:12:34 PaulFertser: but i'm not using gprs (well, last time i did was something around 8 months ago) Feb 05 21:12:58 dos1: gprs is something that is more important for me than sat navigation. Feb 05 21:13:07 PaulFertser: and i know there is some strange problem with python-gobject bindings, which makes frameworkd freeze after gprs disconnect Feb 05 21:13:26 PaulFertser, for User exp you should start use shr-U Feb 05 21:13:39 max_posedon: i can't for the reasons just mentioned Feb 05 21:13:43 should I use shr-unstable? Feb 05 21:13:55 PaulFertser: which is supposed to be fixed after switch to fsogsmd Feb 05 21:13:57 max_posedon: also -u is too unstable lately. Feb 05 21:14:19 * DocScrutinizer is sad enough by realizing how MUCH BETTER a cheap laptop sounds on same homestereo than the N900 (and please don't mention GTA02 now!) Feb 05 21:14:52 * dos1 mentions GTA02 now Feb 05 21:14:55 DocScrutinizer, btw, how is your "vim" sqlite dump editing? I still want see scheme) Feb 05 21:15:24 pfft, gimme cmdline Feb 05 21:15:27 DocScrutinizer: sorry, in a foul mood today. I can only say that today there was a really nice morning, with shining sun and the like and it was not really cold or windy. I hope something like that is either happening or will happen really soon in DE. Feb 05 21:15:43 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH Feb 05 21:15:44 [2010-02-05 21:01:47] could you filter out your private info say, with vim, and show me the rest Feb 05 21:15:45 [2010-02-05 21:02:00] I'm not sure that sqlite can't dump only scheme Feb 05 21:15:47 [2010-02-05 21:09:10] sure Feb 05 21:15:48 [2010-02-05 21:13:06] sqlite> .tables * Feb 05 21:15:50 [2010-02-05 21:13:29] Error: file is encrypted or is not a database Feb 05 21:15:53 http://build.shr-project.org/iwantyouforshrdev.jpg that's scary!! Feb 05 21:16:18 DocScrutinizer, then... oops, .dump doesn't show anything? Feb 05 21:16:24 in this case its not sqlite( Feb 05 21:16:28 DocScrutinizer: do the n900 manuals you've got suggest a reason for the crappy sound? Feb 05 21:16:29 or very custom sqlite Feb 05 21:16:51 what the heck is .ubi? Feb 05 21:17:10 Serdar: a filesystem better than jffs2, for more info you better read their FAQ. Feb 05 21:17:27 oO Feb 05 21:17:35 (and for a more correct answer since ubi is a container for ubifs blablabla) Feb 05 21:17:37 PaulFertser: bass overemphasized for 'optimizing for headsets'. abysmal chan separation. My analysis Feb 05 21:17:56 I only want to test shr with navit, not more. Feb 05 21:18:31 DocScrutinizer: nokia did some weird job with n900, the usb controversy says a lot Feb 05 21:18:53 yep Feb 05 21:19:15 dos1: fix opimd-contacts plz. Feb 05 21:19:22 DocScrutinizer: any positive news about the flow? Feb 05 21:20:00 flow CEO isn't interested in me participating in a reasonable manner Feb 05 21:20:31 2h/week is way below break-even, just for handling email Feb 05 21:20:42 even for riting invoice Feb 05 21:20:52 Oh, so still the same "deal". Very stupid of him then. Feb 05 21:21:01 A way to fail. Feb 05 21:21:35 let's see what he's coming up with at fosdem Feb 05 21:23:57 basically I guess: no sales, no money, despite high price segment products Feb 05 21:25:53 hm Feb 05 21:27:10 I haven't tested shr long ago. Feb 05 21:27:19 so is shr-unstable usable? Feb 05 21:27:47 no Feb 05 21:28:22 (YMMV) Feb 05 21:28:32 pyneo.org Feb 05 21:29:05 pyneo is a foss based system which will never be well suited for Mac OS/X based Systems. Feb 05 21:29:45 ~seen JesusMcCloud Feb 05 21:29:49 jesusmccloud <~jesus@84-119-45-74.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 1d 18h 19m 8s ago, saying: 'anyhow, i need some sleep. i'll check back tomorrow some time, thx'. Feb 05 21:30:26 hi Heinervdm Feb 05 21:30:30 hi Feb 05 21:30:42 pyneo based on debian, wtf is mac? Feb 05 21:30:56 fgaug1: based on debian? Feb 05 21:31:05 an unix based operating system. Feb 05 21:31:22 based on python ... Feb 05 21:31:28 sry Feb 05 21:31:34 Serdar: oh? i didn't know it was an OS Feb 05 21:31:59 Serdar: i think current shr-u should be useable. But just try :) at least 1.2.2010 image is useable Feb 05 21:32:41 Heinervdm, I want somehow a navigation system, so I don't get lost there :O Feb 05 21:33:16 I bought 11 bottle Duesseldorfer Beer for the "afterglow" Feb 05 21:33:19 never used navit, but it should run Feb 05 21:33:27 just try too ;) Feb 05 21:33:39 fgaug1: i thought it was a "mobile stack", not an OS Feb 05 21:33:43 i think my image is also useable, try epydial, based on pyneo Feb 05 21:33:47 Serdar: I will have a printed map, that's more secure Feb 05 21:34:03 Heinervdm, I will take my compass oO" Feb 05 21:34:54 Serdar: But i think the university will be easy to find Feb 05 21:35:20 Heinervdm, I need to drive to a airport somewhere to pick up michael Trimachi Feb 05 21:35:58 Serdar: ah ok, then some navi should be better :) Feb 05 21:36:21 yeah or working internet, that I can use google maps :) Feb 05 21:36:45 lol. which browser? Feb 05 21:38:49 any browser, but need internet. Feb 05 21:39:15 and using a german sim in a foreign land is much expensive. Feb 05 21:40:45 Heinervdm, which 1.2.2010? Is the full-om-gta02.jffs2 a link to this eglibc stuff? Feb 05 21:40:51 :) change your provider Feb 05 21:41:55 Heinervdm, do you mean this? shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20100201-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Feb 05 21:42:13 Serdar: yes Feb 05 21:42:49 I hope I can flash it with my Mac OS X Feb 05 21:43:36 Serdar: you can extract the tar.gz to an SD card too Feb 05 21:44:18 Serdar: you are a out! Feb 05 21:44:26 ext3? Feb 05 21:44:34 fgaug1, what? Feb 05 21:44:43 out Feb 05 21:44:47 mac Feb 05 21:45:49 err yes, if you say so. Feb 05 21:46:31 Serdar: i would prefere ext2 for sd card, but it depends if u are using uboot or qi Feb 05 21:47:06 qi Feb 05 21:47:40 ok, i don't use qi, so i don't know what's needed there... Feb 05 21:48:12 uboot neede 1 fat + 1 ext Feb 05 21:48:54 there is an installer we use, so I don't have this flashing problems. Feb 05 21:49:06 only debugging problem Feb 05 21:50:28 * dos1 thinks macs suck :P Feb 05 21:50:40 :D Feb 05 21:51:06 hm Feb 05 21:51:11 dos1: do you know how to format the sd card for qi and how to extract shr on it? Feb 05 21:51:31 Heinervdm: just extract tar.gz to first ext3 partition on card, nothing more Feb 05 21:51:40 Serdar: ^ Feb 05 21:52:03 or s/first/second/ or s/first/third/ when dual/triple-boot :P Feb 05 21:56:42 Heinervdm: not so simple as dos1 tells. Feb 05 21:56:55 Heinervdm: you need to fix some configs Feb 05 22:32:06 Heinervdm: uBoot needs 128byte inodes. I guess then it can boot from ext2/3 as well (though I never tried) Feb 05 22:33:31 long known almost ancient bug in uBoot Feb 05 22:33:59 mkfs.ext uses 256byte inodes by default Feb 05 22:45:28 http://www.mail-archive.com/u-boot@lists.denx.de/msg18935.html Feb 05 22:48:41 mke2fs -I 128 probably will do for our unfixed uBoot (all just speculative talk) Feb 05 22:49:08 see man mke2fs Feb 05 22:49:33 mke2fs creates 256-byte inodes by default. In kernels after Feb 05 22:49:35 2.6.10 and some earlier vendor kernels it is possible to utilize inodes larger than 128 bytes to store Feb 05 22:49:36 extended attributes for improved performance. Feb 05 22:51:34 if someone would check this, and eventually fix the info in wiki, it'd be highly appreciated Feb 05 23:32:26 UBIFS error (pid 476): dbg_check_space_info: free space changed from 149414553 to 149411258 Feb 05 23:32:30 UBIFS assert failed in dbg_dump_budg at 617 (pid 476) Feb 05 23:32:31 anyone seen that before? Feb 05 23:34:15 I think it's related to unclean shutdowns (I'm having various battery issues ATM), but UBIFS isn't supposed to have problems with that Feb 05 23:36:11 I many times removed battery runtime Feb 05 23:36:43 without any problems Feb 05 23:38:50 it's just happened twice in a row here, so something's up Feb 05 23:38:59 (I reflashed the rootfs to recover the first time) Feb 05 23:39:10 (2.6.32) Feb 05 23:41:19 I use 2.6.29 Feb 05 23:41:24 btw, which config you use? Feb 05 23:41:44 are you sure that BGT enabled? Feb 05 23:42:08 "Disabling background thread" Feb 05 23:42:33 CONFIG_MTD_UBI_DEBUG_DISABLE_BGT=y Feb 05 23:42:49 hm... so, I can't help anymore Feb 05 23:43:03 it's OK... just wondered if it was a silly known problem Feb 05 23:49:43 mickey|zzZZzz, ticket http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/516 have a lot of logs Feb 05 23:49:46 now Feb 05 23:49:53 I hope you find its usefull Feb 06 01:36:35 Last upgrades from today on shr-u has broken registering to GSM network for me Feb 06 01:36:38 [ERROR] UsageController <9 R>: Resource GSM can't be enabled: Did not receive a reply. Possible Feb 06 01:36:38 causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply Feb 06 01:36:38 timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.. Trying to disable instead Feb 06 01:44:31 hmm rebooted second time after upgrades and now it works :S Feb 06 02:11:26 finally fsomusic can play music for me! /me happy **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 06 02:59:56 2010