**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 08 02:59:57 2010 Feb 08 05:10:44 Weiss: http://pastebin.de/3811 Feb 08 05:14:07 DocScrutinizer: doesn't look like anything utterly wrong, 400mA can't leak through a single gpio pin anyway. Feb 08 05:14:30 lol, yep Feb 08 05:14:54 BT is wronganyway Feb 08 05:15:24 alsi USM_ULLUP is strange Feb 08 05:15:39 also USM_PULLUP is strange Feb 08 05:19:09 PaulFertser: could you check if CPU is constantly spinning in IRQ for F0:0 / G8:0 ? Feb 08 05:19:43 F = EINT Feb 08 05:23:46 DocScrutinizer: the /proc/interrupts number would increase all the time Feb 08 05:23:47 * PaulFertser relocating to work, bbl Feb 08 05:23:58 yup Feb 08 05:24:05 enjoy your ride Feb 08 05:24:41 Weiss: ^! Feb 08 05:35:02 well, power-on default for LIS302 IHL and PP_OD is INT=active-high, push-pull Feb 08 05:37:35 doesn't mean the LIS302 driver devels followed this default. They as well could have opted for active-low mode and configure EINT0/16 accordingly to fire on low Feb 08 05:51:28 esp when assuming they planned to put R7808/7 to correct purpose (PP_OD open drain mode) Feb 08 05:57:14 * DocScrutinizer wonders if the EINT0..16 pins of SoC are of the pullup or pulldown internal-R type Feb 08 05:57:53 I never seem to get that right Feb 08 05:58:10 confusing like hell Feb 08 06:59:50 Unable to connect freerunner using debug board Feb 08 07:00:25 able to connect freerunner direct from my ubuntu machine Feb 08 07:00:46 but same is not working through debug board Feb 08 07:01:18 sudo ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth7 Feb 08 07:01:32 sudo ip link set dev eth7 up Feb 08 07:01:44 ssh root@192.168.0.202 Feb 08 07:02:05 the above commands works fine with direct USB connection to freerunner phone Feb 08 07:02:23 but same is not working with debug board Feb 08 07:02:55 and says the below error Feb 08 07:02:58 Cannot find device "eth7" Feb 08 07:04:03 satish: do you have some reason for using the usb hub of the debug board? Feb 08 07:04:17 lindi- : yes Feb 08 07:04:27 i want to communicate with another co processor Feb 08 07:04:33 using SPI connection Feb 08 07:04:43 satish: you can still use direct usb connection? Feb 08 07:05:24 i have terminated debug board SPI connections to co processor board SPI connections Feb 08 07:05:57 if i connect phone to my pc, able to communicate Feb 08 07:06:13 but phone to debug board and then PC fails Feb 08 07:06:25 satish: can't you connect phone and debug board to pc with separate cables? Feb 08 07:06:52 i don't have seperate cables, i have shipped with only one usb cable Feb 08 07:07:07 and i had given phone power using inverter Feb 08 07:07:44 why this debug board is unable to access ? Feb 08 07:07:50 is not the same way Feb 08 07:08:05 satish: hard to say, do other usb devices work with the debug board hub Feb 08 07:08:07 ? Feb 08 07:08:53 i didn't check it, it is a slave SPI processor Feb 08 07:09:23 freerunner phone i'm using as master SPI processor. Feb 08 07:10:00 does any one accessed phone through debug board ? Feb 08 07:13:15 I always had problems with the debug board's USB sockets too Feb 08 07:16:16 DocScrutinizer / PaulFertser: r.e. interrupts...nothing seems to be going up crazily fast other than the "timer tick". I don't see any entry at all for the accelerometers, which is interesting Feb 08 07:18:59 after 6 mins of uptime: http://pastebin.de/3812 Feb 08 07:19:36 Weiss: what's the battery temperature btw? ;) Feb 08 07:19:59 lindi- : looks there are no USB signals terminating on phone from debug board Feb 08 07:20:15 Weiss: it'd interesting to try some barebone .32 kernel, probably without glamo stuff altogether, something really minimal. Feb 08 07:36:23 No device is displayed under /dev/spidev1.1 after connect the co processor with phone Feb 08 07:36:35 using SPI Feb 08 07:44:03 PaulFertser: good idea.. I'll try that after work Feb 08 09:33:13 You fucking niggers! Feb 08 09:33:23 ... Feb 08 09:34:00 eh? Feb 08 09:35:52 huh Feb 08 09:39:01 He's probably still upset about GNAA attacks Feb 08 09:40:34 mickey|office: hi Feb 08 09:40:48 how did the fosdem thing go? Feb 08 09:45:38 it was nice. Feb 08 09:45:45 we got filled up each talk Feb 08 09:57:44 is now a good time to merge shr-U into shr-T? Feb 08 09:58:12 I am really fed up with those mysterious gsm failed to suspend issues, that only seem to crop up in shr-T. Feb 08 09:59:13 spaetz: not sure about the current state... JaMa|Gone should know better Feb 08 09:59:18 k Feb 08 09:59:37 I stopped using my FR as a daily phone because of it, which annoys me a lot :) Feb 08 10:00:01 AFAIK calling works again Feb 08 10:00:16 seen EFL update yesterday (haven't tested) Feb 08 10:00:35 and pyphonelog fails to build because of setup.py asking nonexistent file Feb 08 10:05:37 JaMa|Gone: heh, pyphonelog is my fault :/ Feb 08 10:05:49 * mrmoku fixes Feb 08 10:07:02 and maybe that xinput-calibrator is too difficult to use by some users :/ Feb 08 10:08:01 it is? but it's just pressing the touch screen 4 times... Feb 08 10:08:22 spaetz: see #openmoko log :/ Feb 08 10:08:43 spaetz: I also requested feature for confirmation after calibration Feb 08 10:09:02 JaMa|Gone: for me calibration is slightly off Feb 08 10:09:14 spaetz: as lite image doesn't have fsoraw and it's possible that display is blank with first calibration run after reflash Feb 08 10:09:32 but that's a bug. Feb 08 10:09:40 We NEED fsoraw in all images Feb 08 10:10:01 spaetz: then you would touch display to unblank it and screw calibration.. Feb 08 10:10:09 it's essential. I do want to ALIAS opkg with "fsoraw -r CPU -f opg" Feb 08 10:10:24 JaMa|Gone: mmh, ok that is a problem. Feb 08 10:10:36 but not having fsoraw is plainly a bug in my opinion. Feb 08 10:11:18 yes that's why I add fsoraw call to x89TsCalibration script.. but only if fsoraw is available Feb 08 10:11:49 but without passwd set (no ssh access) is really difficult to fix broken calibration after reflash Feb 08 10:11:54 JaMa|Gone: ok, pyphonelog should build again Feb 08 10:12:23 I guess with that wizard asking people to set password, we should allow empty passwd for ssh in Feb 08 10:13:26 mrmoku: and the calibration is more off then it was with static kernel calibration? Feb 08 10:13:45 JaMa|Gone: nvm, after recalibrating with a stylus it is precise as one could hope :-) Feb 08 10:13:49 mrmoku: are you sure, you run that calibration precise enough? Feb 08 10:13:59 ah I always used stylus :) Feb 08 10:17:46 JaMa|Gone: we really should allow empty passwords Feb 08 10:18:02 if you look at the number of questions about the SSH password in the list it is clear Feb 08 10:18:19 that people don't read any handbook to find out what to do... Feb 08 10:19:19 yes.. but also when something is a bit broken (ie e17 doesn't start after reflash) then it's better to provide better option than boot other distro and set your password first Feb 08 10:20:16 I always flash image while running other distro (version) so I have everything already set after first reboot, but that's not how average user does reflash :) Feb 08 10:24:15 \o/ with svn revision 95, fltkspacetrader is now feature-complete :D Feb 08 10:25:28 icon for .desktop file, in-game help and graphical encounters :) Feb 08 10:29:54 ohhh... a cached contact list view is nice :D Feb 08 10:32:53 graziano: morning, very well, thanks Feb 08 10:34:11 unfortunately I could not be there but I would like to read the slides about openmoko and shr talks Feb 08 10:34:25 when they will become available Feb 08 10:35:26 mickey|office: I also tried to set up a page where to put all things related to SHR on the htc dream: http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Hardware/HTC_Dream Feb 08 10:37:04 graziano: ah, good work Feb 08 10:37:29 mickey|office, I tried the installer with shr, failed, the reason could be the init. Feb 08 10:38:00 structure of shr seems different that android. Feb 08 10:38:40 an and one thing, this golden delicious guy at fosdem, what's his name / eMail adress? Feb 08 10:39:02 I wanted to speak him after our devroom but couldn't see him Feb 08 10:39:26 mickey|office: about the alternative for the project's code, did you think about savannah? I am not into technical things so I don't know if it has the things you were looking for but I think the savannah hackers would really appreciate to host the project Feb 08 10:39:49 http://savannah.gnu.org/ Feb 08 10:40:36 http://savannah.nongnu.org/ for non gnu software projects Feb 08 10:40:55 = everybody's welcome :) Feb 08 10:41:38 graziano: do you know if GPL'd documentation is ok? Feb 08 10:44:06 lindi-: I don't understand the question Feb 08 10:47:23 graziano: "Savannah rejects a project because it uses GPL" -- http://mailman.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2006-February/005498.html Feb 08 10:52:14 mmm I really don't know, I think you should ask on savannah mailing list or on irc Feb 08 10:52:52 there is #savannah if you wish Feb 08 10:53:38 I am not a savannah hacker or contributor Feb 08 10:57:44 I read on the mailing list that people were asking for suggestions about where to host code and savannah came into my mind so I suggested it Feb 08 10:58:19 for technical and license details I think you should ask on #savannah because unfortunately I can't provide any help regarding those Feb 08 11:00:27 graziano: you are reffering on that page to shr/import. shr/import isn't maintained anymore. Only shr/testing and shr/unstable are maintained Feb 08 11:01:44 Heinervdm: thank you very much. I am not the lead developer of the project, I know that gnutoo and leviathan are working on it so maybe they are the people to talk to Feb 08 11:02:01 gnutoo usually appears here too Feb 08 11:02:34 Heinervdm: maybe they already know but they forgot to update that page, I will ask Feb 08 11:02:34 gnutoo uses shr/unstable Feb 08 11:03:21 graziano: i just thought you knew when you advertised it :) Feb 08 11:08:15 lindi-: sorry I don't, maybe for it to be taken into consideration some info are needed Feb 08 11:08:41 I can't provide them, but people on their irc channel and mailing list could, if someone is interested in the solution Feb 08 11:14:15 Heinervdm: the story is this, I created a free software activists group endorsed by the FSF in Italy called LibrePlanet Italia Feb 08 11:14:26 we have lots of local and international projects going on Feb 08 11:14:39 they are carried on by different people, one of them is gnutoo Feb 08 11:14:52 he currently is working on putting SHR on the htc dream Feb 08 11:15:15 I own an htc dream too so usually I help him with some tests and other things that doesn't require coding Feb 08 11:15:18 such as that web page Feb 08 11:16:16 where I tried to put all the things that were in many different pages to help FSO gather even more content on devices Feb 08 11:16:37 I discovered that there was an "hardware" page I found it quite useful Feb 08 11:16:45 I think it should be less hidden in the wiki Feb 08 11:17:00 maybe a link in the main page could attract more people Feb 08 11:17:02 mickey|office: ^^ Feb 08 11:17:19 mickey|office, if you get some minutes during the day, query please. Feb 08 12:35:05 every "notmuch new" in the test suite seems to take about 30 seconds, something seems fishy. (it is much faster on my regular mail store) Feb 08 12:35:09 arrg, wrong iwn Feb 08 12:35:11 win Feb 08 12:39:45 Hi Feb 08 12:40:04 is ioctl function success always returns > 0 ? Feb 08 12:41:46 satish: no, every ioctl is special :) Feb 08 12:53:25 Heinervdm: hi Feb 08 12:53:32 leviathan: hi Feb 08 13:10:36 Heinervdm, some guys made pictures do you know who? Feb 08 13:10:58 lindi- : i'm trying to write I2C driver for my coprocessor. Feb 08 13:11:05 Serdar: nicolaus schaller Feb 08 13:11:14 i think Feb 08 13:11:18 is he here? Feb 08 13:11:26 ioctl is the only way ? Feb 08 13:11:33 lindi - : ioctl is the only way ? Feb 08 13:11:58 or is there any other way to open and communicate i2c devices ? Feb 08 13:11:58 Heinervdm, btw. is this guy the golden delicious guy? Feb 08 13:12:14 Serdar: yes Feb 08 13:12:22 okay is he here? Feb 08 13:12:27 need to talk to him Feb 08 13:13:21 don't know, i've only read him in mails and the fyp forum Feb 08 13:14:00 okay Feb 08 13:17:14 satish: I2C kernel driver? Feb 08 13:18:14 DocScrutinizer : i want to communicate with an external co processor using i2c protocol, which connected through debug board Feb 08 13:18:38 uhum Feb 08 13:19:02 if i connect the device with debug board Feb 08 13:19:10 phone is unable to boot Feb 08 13:19:22 there's proven I2C driver in standard kernel Feb 08 13:19:45 ok Feb 08 13:19:51 that's unusual Feb 08 13:20:19 i'm getting error ; unable to i2c bus error -110 Feb 08 13:20:27 i'm getting error ; unable to geti2c bus error -110 Feb 08 13:20:31 i'm getting error ; unable to get i2c bus error -110 Feb 08 13:21:00 you hw extension killed the I2C bus Feb 08 13:23:27 satish: inactive devices (your coproc) need to keep their I2C lines at high-impedance state Feb 08 13:23:35 i.E. input Feb 08 13:23:53 ok Feb 08 13:24:44 that i will check and make sure it is input. Feb 08 13:25:24 DocScrutinizer : regarding my first doubt, is that ioctl is the only way to write the I2C driver / Feb 08 13:25:31 also nota bene I2C usually doesn't allow for unpowered devices on the bus, for same reason Feb 08 13:25:36 DocScrutinizer : i'm newbe to driver programming Feb 08 13:25:53 check sysfs Feb 08 13:26:51 iirc you got a raw data node for each I2C bus somewhere Feb 08 13:27:26 satish: either ioctl or an inkernel driver Feb 08 13:28:25 theres quite a number of drivers that use the I2C driver. you might look and copy the way they do Feb 08 13:28:45 moin larsc Feb 08 13:29:16 larsc : if i write ioctl based i2c open and setting addr and read , write system calls, will it allows me to access my device that connected external to the phone using debug board Feb 08 13:30:20 DocScrutinizer : larsc : http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v2.6.28.8/Documentation/i2c/dev-interface Feb 08 13:30:29 i'm following the above link Feb 08 13:30:52 is it the correct way to proceed ? Feb 08 13:31:14 satish: yes Feb 08 13:31:31 larsc : thank u. Feb 08 13:32:22 larsc : if (ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, addr) < 0) Feb 08 13:32:51 this call is failed, means i'm able to identify my device ? Feb 08 13:33:12 with correct addr / Feb 08 13:34:35 greetings larsc Feb 08 13:34:36 satish: if that call fails there is no device with given address on the i2c bus Feb 08 13:34:40 hi mickey|office Feb 08 13:40:16 satish: which isn't much of a surprise, given you get errors about the bus being down completely, on boot. See what I told you about your coproc's I2C interface Feb 08 13:42:06 DocScrutinizer : it is assured that my coproc is slave and always in input mode during boot Feb 08 13:43:07 then your extending the lines made capacitive load too high Feb 08 13:43:33 or you get reflections at line end (ringing) Feb 08 13:44:23 ok Feb 08 13:45:10 larsc: while you're around... are you aware of something causing a humongous (~400mA) power drain with the 2.6.32 kernel? Feb 08 13:45:23 Weiss: nope Feb 08 13:45:48 your FR doesn't melt when you run it? (like mine..) Feb 08 13:45:49 has to be core system somewhere Feb 08 13:46:11 Weiss: melting as in gets hot? Feb 08 13:46:19 yu Feb 08 13:46:21 p Feb 08 13:46:32 it gets noticably warmer than it should do, yes... Feb 08 13:46:46 cpiu, or glamo Feb 08 13:46:52 after what period of time? Feb 08 13:47:13 larsc: straight away after booting.. the heat is noticable in ~5 mins Feb 08 13:47:32 DocScrutinizer: yeah.. I'm going to play round the back of the PCB tonight and see what's hot (and what's not..) Feb 08 13:47:50 Weiss: cool Feb 08 13:48:11 Weiss: sometimes the direct method is the best Feb 08 13:48:17 how scared should I be of removing the cans? Feb 08 13:49:03 if you got a *small* pinpoint knife and are a calm person, there should be no problems Feb 08 13:52:24 according to the battery current is 200mA here Feb 08 13:52:56 which sounds quite sane Feb 08 13:54:25 with 100% cpu usage it goes up to 300mA Feb 08 13:55:24 damn Feb 08 13:56:01 by 100% cpu you mean it's actually running a busy loop? Feb 08 13:56:52 yes Feb 08 13:57:05 spwaned a few endless loops Feb 08 13:57:11 large enough to fetch the instructions from RAM rather than cache Feb 08 13:57:18 ? Feb 08 13:57:21 no Feb 08 13:58:22 dd if=/dev/mem of=/dev/null Feb 08 13:59:13 I'm having trouble getting d-bus signals from gypsy. http://pastebin.com/d2f3a1e47 My vala code tries to connect to a signal, but nothing ever happens. Feb 08 13:59:37 It works when I call d-bus methods Feb 08 14:00:28 hmmm gypsy... Feb 08 14:01:30 You don't like gypsy? Feb 08 14:02:26 I'm in doubt if that's what we actually use on FSO Feb 08 14:02:54 Is the documentation old? Feb 08 14:03:18 really only cloudy ideas and guts feelings here Feb 08 14:04:54 cli-framework and gps gives me org.freesmartphone.ogpsd /org/freedesktop/Gypsy at 0x407a9990> Feb 08 14:05:01 Looks like gypsy Feb 08 14:05:04 DocScrutinize : larsc : i didn't connected my device during boot, the phone boots fine Feb 08 14:05:35 DocScrutinize : larsc : but when i invoke ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, addr) Feb 08 14:05:48 DocScrutinize : larsc : i got return 0 Feb 08 14:06:07 DocScrutinize : larsc : mean success ? Feb 08 14:06:26 you're sure your coproc isn't on a conflicting addr? Feb 08 14:06:46 my coproc addr is 57 Feb 08 14:06:52 0x57 Feb 08 14:07:11 sorry dunno the other subdevices' addr by heart Feb 08 14:07:12 how can i know the list of i2c addr used in phone Feb 08 14:07:25 good question Feb 08 14:07:26 i2cdetect will work ? Feb 08 14:09:51 satish: if there's nothing in wiki, then you either can check the kernel sources for all the I2C addr used there on this particular bus. Or you check with the schematics and the chips' datasheets Feb 08 14:10:23 i2cdetect will work Feb 08 14:11:09 if it works (which I guess) it should give a list of active addr as well, yes Feb 08 14:13:28 mrmoku: cookie :) but please correct the ß in author name, it seems i've choosen the wrong charset Feb 08 14:14:46 ok Feb 08 14:15:24 satish: anyway it's obviously WM8753 audio mixer and PCF50633 PMU that live on same I2C bus. Should be easy to check Feb 08 14:15:36 Heinervdm: is there "python" package for RDEPENDS? IIRC only python-core Feb 08 14:16:08 but maybe it's RPROVIDED .. (haven't checked) Feb 08 14:16:15 hmm Feb 08 14:16:27 took that form another recipe :/ Feb 08 14:17:35 I'm not sure.. so probably not an issue.. Feb 08 14:19:13 how do i create commit messages with multiple lines in git? Feb 08 14:19:43 if i just write multiple lines the linebreaks vanish Feb 08 14:20:23 DocScrutinizer : is I2C protocol implemented as hardware in freerunner phone or software based on GPIO pins ? Feb 08 14:20:41 Heinervdm: they shouldn't, probably that's your editor. Feb 08 14:20:42 I'd guess hw Feb 08 14:20:53 PaulFertser: ok, i will try again Feb 08 14:21:02 DocScrutinizer : ok Feb 08 14:21:52 U21 Feb 08 14:21:53 IICSDA/GPE15 Feb 08 14:21:55 AB12 Feb 08 14:21:56 IICSCL/GPE14 Feb 08 14:22:54 so the SoC has a hw I2C function for these pins Feb 08 14:23:16 I'd guess we exploit that, rather than bitbang for no good reason Feb 08 14:25:21 DocScrutinizer : ok, we will explore Feb 08 14:28:29 Deubeuliou, hi, arrived home too? Feb 08 14:34:13 PaulFertser: i put my changes to obexd and bluez on github: http://github.com/heinervdm/obexd/tree/heinervdm/fso http://github.com/heinervdm/bluez/tree/heinervdm/fso Feb 08 14:34:30 topro: ^^^ Feb 08 14:35:02 Heinervdm: i'm not cool enough to have a car with integrated bluetooth kit so i have no idea how to test/improve it myself ;) Feb 08 14:35:14 me either :D Feb 08 14:35:32 but i know that this isn't working Feb 08 14:36:33 because the methods of the plugin are never called by obexd, so some fixes in obexd core are needed Feb 08 14:43:27 Heinervdm: SRCREV in the recipe is ok nowadays? Feb 08 14:43:38 Heinervdm: do you mean you have no idea why obexd doesn't call your plugin's methods at all? Feb 08 14:44:12 Heinervdm: i mean i saw some n900 owners tried to use obexd with pbap support and ebook plugin and they saw a crash in the ebook plugin. Feb 08 14:44:17 mrmoku: it's SRCREV for oe.dev and you should commit it with SRCPV to shr/unstable Feb 08 14:44:39 PaulFertser: yes, i meant that Feb 08 14:45:15 some people tried for me, but the log messages at the beginning of the functions never appeared Feb 08 14:45:28 Heinervdm: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6368#c39 Feb 08 14:45:52 Heinervdm: I meant specify the rev in the recipe and not in sane-srcrevs.inc Feb 08 14:46:14 PaulFertser: i don't know if all changes from maemo are in upstream obexd Feb 08 14:46:28 Heinervdm: maemo doesn't officially support pbap Feb 08 14:46:59 mrmoku: i've seen that more often in the last time and even Koen did it, so i thought that this would be ok, but i don't know Feb 08 14:47:26 Heinervdm: ok, if Koen did it... :P Feb 08 14:47:33 PaulFertser: but they have an own git branch Feb 08 14:47:33 Heinervdm: are you sure the guys who tested it for you used --pbap cli option when starting obexd? Feb 08 14:47:42 only for that Feb 08 14:48:03 yes, because i added it to the .service file Feb 08 14:48:21 and the logs showed that pbap was started Feb 08 14:50:54 Heinervdm: eaten Feb 08 14:51:12 Heinervdm: should not be too hard to compare maemo's version with upstream wrt pbap support. Feb 08 14:52:05 PaulFertser: yes, but i will wait a month or so and then ask them again, now they are only saing that it's under heavy developement Feb 08 14:52:17 je vais voir ça aprés Feb 08 14:52:26 woop, wrong chan Feb 08 14:52:34 Heinervdm: ah, ok, cool :) (they==bluez guys?) Feb 08 14:52:49 yes Feb 08 14:53:55 (btw, this n900 bug is funny to read, bragging about ferrary's and other "sport" cars is an unusual thing to see on a bugtracker) Feb 08 14:55:32 :) Feb 08 14:56:07 TAsn: ping, what is the correct way to compare strings - respecting RTL and everything else? Feb 08 14:58:30 helllo all Feb 08 15:05:51 to all: can someone help me: how can i remove the bars on shr-unstable because i need only three? Feb 08 15:09:01 Serdar: yeah, and I found my friend, too :) Feb 08 15:09:19 pbaxter: there isn't a way afaik it's some bug/feature in e ;] Feb 08 15:09:36 soltys: thanks for info! Feb 08 15:10:04 np Feb 08 15:12:04 mrmoku, strcmp :P Feb 08 15:13:21 sane people (and most of the insane ones as well) use logical ordering, which means the first char (rightmost in rtl) is at buf[0] :P Feb 08 15:16:52 dos1|away, ping Feb 08 15:21:27 dos1, ping :P Feb 08 15:21:33 TAsn: pong Feb 08 15:21:39 dos1, :P Feb 08 15:21:46 dos1, _limit in opimd Feb 08 15:21:51 did you fix it? Feb 08 15:22:06 (you remember the pre_limit and post_limit issue we had?) Feb 08 15:22:07 Hi guys! Feb 08 15:22:20 Q-Master, hey. Feb 08 15:22:40 TAsn: hmm, dunno Feb 08 15:22:43 what's new? Feb 08 15:22:44 TAsn: but i think no Feb 08 15:23:24 Q-Master, nothing :( Feb 08 15:23:57 dos1, :| can you please fix it? :) Feb 08 15:24:05 not now, sorry Feb 08 15:24:15 but i'll soon Feb 08 15:24:19 i think it's already in my todo Feb 08 15:25:06 dos1, sweet :P Feb 08 15:25:31 because phonelog is now doing all the work, and this means I probe opimd for *ALL* of the calls :P Feb 08 15:25:40 which is terribly slow Feb 08 15:25:52 and timeouts Feb 08 15:32:26 Deubeuliou, nice. btw. did you enjoy Duesseldorf's beer? :) Feb 08 15:35:56 yeah, it is nice, thanks :) Feb 08 16:12:01 Deubeuliou, Heinervdm ping Feb 08 16:12:28 pong Feb 08 16:12:47 TAsn: cached contact list is fun :D Feb 08 16:13:09 fast? :P Feb 08 16:13:36 yup Feb 08 16:13:43 works? Feb 08 16:13:51 if so, send me an ipk :P Feb 08 16:14:26 Heinervdm, the presentation you used yesterday, can you send it to pascal, so he can host it on the fosdem homepage? Feb 08 16:14:48 Serdar: what's his email address? Feb 08 16:15:00 you got an eMail from him, right? Feb 08 16:15:13 use the devrooms mail Feb 08 16:15:20 but write the permission Feb 08 16:15:24 ah that forwarded mail Feb 08 16:15:32 you got cc copyright? Feb 08 16:15:39 for example Feb 08 16:16:00 you need to write your eMail adress Feb 08 16:16:07 Deubeuliou, same to you please Feb 08 16:16:34 Deubeuliou, paper and permission for useing to pascal please Feb 08 16:16:43 i have to check first some licening issues :) Feb 08 16:22:08 ok, I'll do Feb 08 16:36:28 Serdar: what for do they need the mail address? Feb 08 16:36:57 huh? Feb 08 16:37:02 paper. Feb 08 16:37:06 your presentation Feb 08 16:37:19 and a permission to host them Feb 08 16:40:04 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rb185533756fb 10/src/ (phoneui.c phoneui.h.in): phoneui: remove obsoleted phoneui_contacts_refresh Feb 08 16:40:14 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r6e3eacbfcc93 10/src/ (phoneui-utils.c phoneui-utils.h): phoneui-utils: add new phoneui_utils_contact_compare and use it Feb 08 16:40:16 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r5183a86f6e26 10/src/ (phoneui-info.c phoneui-info.h): phoneui-info: add callback mechanism to enable backends to register for contact changes Feb 08 16:41:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * r9b03f137a566 10/src/ (3 files): Feb 08 16:41:52 freesmartphone.org: opimd: fix UpdatedContact signal handling Feb 08 16:41:52 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Feb 08 16:51:18 literki keybord now available in Debian pkg-fso repository for anyone wanting to try it out Feb 08 17:17:23 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r9073a4f411ae 10/src/ (phoneui-info.c phoneui-utils-sound.c phoneui-utils-sound.h): adjust to Werror clean libframeworkd-glib Feb 08 17:17:24 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rd8f393bc14e3 10/src/phoneui-info.c: phoneui-info: take signal strength from network status too Feb 08 17:17:24 SHR: 03maxposedon 07libphone-ui * rfe0cd1df51fa 10/src/phoneui-utils-device.c: Fix gcc-4.4 warning(error) check write/system calls Feb 08 17:17:25 SHR: 03maxposedon 07libphone-ui * re4b2e91a1d17 10/src/phoneui-utils-device.c: Use g_return_if_fail instead g_assert for fixing gcc-4.4 warnings Feb 08 17:17:26 SHR: 03maxposedon 07libphone-ui * r2a14ce504d23 10/src/phoneui-utils-device.c: fix typo in gcc-4.4 patch Feb 08 17:17:29 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * rb1f79100d059 10/src/ (phoneui-utils.c phoneui-utils.h): Added phoneui_utils_contacts_field* utility functions Feb 08 17:17:29 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * r3e1b8b2a1492 10/src/phoneui-utils.c: Made it compile (the stubs) even with warnings as errors Feb 08 17:17:30 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * r553bd4beb273 10/src/ (phoneui-info.c phoneui-utils.c): Added hacks for it to build without lfg Feb 08 17:17:33 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rb185533756fb 10/src/ (phoneui.c phoneui.h.in): phoneui: remove obsoleted phoneui_contacts_refresh Feb 08 17:17:33 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * r87d7ce29c053 10/src/phoneui-utils.c: New opimd changes, mostly dropped the tel prefix from everywhere Feb 08 17:17:34 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * r3373bdf1c3f7 10/src/phoneui-utils.c: Added removing of system fields when probing for fields. If you really want to handle system fields, you explicitly know their name, and users don't need to know they even exist. Feb 08 17:17:35 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r5183a86f6e26 10/src/ (phoneui-info.c phoneui-info.h): phoneui-info: add callback mechanism to enable backends to register for contact changes Feb 08 17:17:36 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * r3373bdf1c3f7 10/src/phoneui-utils.c: Added removing of system fields when probing for fields. If you really want to handle system fields, you explicitly know their name, and users don't need to know they even exist. Feb 08 17:17:38 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * rce25251e1c4d 10/src/ (9 files): Resolved conflicts Feb 08 17:17:38 SHR: 03tom 07libphone-ui * r823471b37c77 10/src/ (phoneui-utils.c phoneui-utils.h): Adedd phoneui_utils_fields_types_get Feb 08 17:17:44 stupid CIA :P Feb 08 17:17:50 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r6e3eacbfcc93 10/src/ (phoneui-utils.c phoneui-utils.h): phoneui-utils: add new phoneui_utils_contact_compare and use it Feb 08 17:17:51 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rdf02e9bd12a3 10/src/ (phoneui-utils.c phoneui-utils.h): phoneui-utils: fill phoneui_utils_contacts_fields_get with life Feb 08 17:18:01 shouldn't track the crap branches Feb 08 17:20:26 ;] Feb 08 17:21:47 TAsn: track plz the bug with my db. Feb 08 17:21:54 :) Feb 08 17:22:12 I will try to look at it tonight :) (I promise to try) Feb 08 17:22:14 ;f Feb 08 17:22:34 any idea how to make gsm working again ? Feb 08 17:22:42 8) Feb 08 17:22:52 ;) Feb 08 17:23:13 I try new image.. will see ;) Feb 08 17:23:23 btw Feb 08 17:23:39 mrmoku|away's overhaul of the contacts app is super-awesome :) Feb 08 17:25:36 i'm having trouble with shr, it does not always starting the gsm/sim. i think it's a known problem, but what is the solution ? Feb 08 17:25:54 tsaitgaist, try not letting it suspend Feb 08 17:25:56 tsaitgaist: rebooting Feb 08 17:26:01 it usually makes it work Feb 08 17:26:14 and suspend before start SUXX! Feb 08 17:26:25 yes, rebooting, as I thought (i actually do) Feb 08 17:26:50 tsaitgaist, actually, in my case, my worn out sim, cause issues as well :P Feb 08 17:26:54 Default suspend values are also crazy ones. Feb 08 17:27:00 Q-Master, I couldn't agree more. Feb 08 17:27:09 Q-Master, btw, email, please reply :) Feb 08 17:27:26 also, why does it not remeber my idle timeout. they are reset to 15s after each reboot Feb 08 17:27:59 is there no way to make it keep my value ? Feb 08 17:28:17 tsaitgaist: they're hardcoded in config files and couldn't be changed by SW. Just edit it by hands Feb 08 17:28:24 yeah Feb 08 17:28:35 for some reason shr-settings doesn't work correctly. Feb 08 17:28:41 which file is it ? Feb 08 17:31:33 /etc/freesmartphone/ something Feb 08 17:31:36 :) Feb 08 17:31:37 TAsn: replied. Feb 08 17:31:39 frameworkd.conf Feb 08 17:31:41 Q-Master, sweet. :) Feb 08 17:33:54 tsaitgaist: they're hardcoded in fsodeviced.conf. Just copy that file from it's location in /etc/freesmartphone/conf/ to /etc/freesmartphone/ and edit the needed fields by hands. After restart everything'll be ok. Feb 08 17:36:44 Q-Master : /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/fsodeviced.conf to /etc/freesmartphone/ or /etc/freesmartphone/GTA02 ? Feb 08 17:37:02 tsaitgaist: to /etc/freesmartphone/ Feb 08 17:42:01 Q-Master : works like a charm, thanks Feb 08 18:18:48 are the talks at fosdem recorded? Feb 08 18:19:00 not all Feb 08 18:21:27 ah ok i will wait Feb 08 18:28:03 non of the openmoko talks were recorded Feb 08 18:29:45 der-lehmann, all main talks and lightning talks are recorded Feb 08 18:30:22 devrooms should organize their own recording... Feb 08 18:30:53 very very sad Feb 08 18:31:09 I was asking :/ Feb 08 18:31:33 I will reorganize a devroom for OM next year too Feb 08 18:31:52 I will take any donation for recording devices :) Feb 08 18:32:36 hi mickeyl Feb 08 18:32:58 I asked you for a mail of nikolaus, do you know where I get it? Feb 08 18:33:09 e-mail address? Feb 08 18:33:25 yes. I need his work for toolchain for Mac OS X Feb 08 18:33:27 hns@goldelico.com Feb 08 18:33:41 thanks. Feb 08 18:34:04 * mickeyl writes his FOSDEM blog entry now Feb 08 18:34:41 second. what do you think about the installer? it _could_ be possible if someone looks at it, maybe some changes of the init is needed or something like that Feb 08 18:35:39 I want to push the last release of babiloo-efl on the shr-recipes I wonder why there is 3 bb, do I have to create a new one? Feb 08 18:36:02 i think it's a cool project, something that should interest the distro creators. I'm not sure about SHR users (as we discussed @ FOSDEM), but surely some other distros should be interested. i guess it'd be best to write an email to the community list pointing to a wiki page where we could collect the facts Feb 08 18:36:23 as a starting point for folks who want to work on that Feb 08 18:36:41 I can say that today someone tried to flash shr and it didn't work Feb 08 18:37:04 heh Feb 08 18:37:05 ok Feb 08 18:37:10 might be interesting for SHR as well then :) Feb 08 18:37:32 he only wanted that for checking his gsm and 1024 :> Feb 08 18:37:55 i wish I could be there :( Feb 08 18:38:18 the presentations will be available Feb 08 18:38:36 I mean the OM ones Feb 08 18:38:54 and main and lightning talks will be available as videos Feb 08 18:39:13 the lug of lemur are working on them Feb 08 18:39:18 will take some weeks Feb 08 18:39:40 mickeyl, I am not on your mailing list :/ Feb 08 18:39:51 which mailing list? Feb 08 18:40:11 the problem of the installer is: no documentation and nobody knows _really_ how it works. It just work for us. Feb 08 18:40:23 which you mentioned or what is the community list? Feb 08 18:40:55 check lists.openmoko.org Feb 08 18:42:13 thought so, mailing list :) okay I will try. The problem is like I mentioned if someone asks me details I can't answer. Feb 08 18:42:39 I can write how to get the code. Feb 08 18:42:45 fair enough Feb 08 18:59:54 mickeyl, sent Feb 08 19:03:14 mickeyl: you were interested in mkbootimg? I just had a look at it, it just depends on one lib (libmincrypt) and that lib has no other unusual depencies and consists of 2 source files Feb 08 19:04:17 this mailing list is strange oO" Feb 08 19:04:44 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-February/thread.html Feb 08 19:04:55 don't understand why my Installer thread is wrong placed Feb 08 19:08:39 Heinervdm: good. i think it should be in OE, so we can transparently create final flash images Feb 08 19:09:07 mickeyl: but i think we have to fork it Feb 08 19:09:23 android uses strange makefiles Feb 08 19:09:31 no problem with that Feb 08 19:09:41 the bootloader on this device is fixed Feb 08 19:09:45 so we don't need to adjust Feb 08 19:10:05 we can even put it completely in OE, if it's just two files Feb 08 19:10:19 or few Feb 08 19:12:08 DocScrutinizer: interesting... the power drain seems not to be here this time testing.. Feb 08 19:12:10 * TAsn hates OE Feb 08 19:12:40 Weiss: what's different this time? Feb 08 19:12:43 Won't update git. Feb 08 19:12:49 mickeyl: 6 files 3 .c and 3.h Feb 08 19:13:35 DocScrutinizer: nothing at all.. I haven't even reflashed the kernel since testing last night Feb 08 19:13:52 glamo madness Feb 08 19:14:02 Heinervdm: ok, we better host that elsewhere then Feb 08 19:14:43 Weiss: you seen the references to andy's posts on ML I posted here last night? Feb 08 19:14:45 mickeyl: but first we have to see if it compiles :) Feb 08 19:15:07 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rd75cc25761bf 10/libmsmcomm/ (src/msmcomm.sdef tools/generate_structs.py): libmsmcomm: add a litte script to generate c structs out of description files Feb 08 19:15:08 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rc528438ac973 10/libmsmcomm/tools/generate_structs.py: libmsmcomm: fix generate_struct.py script for correct struct generation Feb 08 19:15:10 heh, sure Feb 08 19:15:23 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rd422d2857357 10/libmsmcomm/tools/generate_structs.py: libmsmcomm: format output of generate_structs.py script Feb 08 19:18:46 where is the fso sourcecode? Feb 08 19:19:55 git.freesmartphone.org Feb 08 19:20:50 thanks, I need to know how fso is getting the informations about gsm etc. Feb 08 19:29:20 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r507a51ea045d 10/tools/mdbus2/ (README src/main.vala): mdbus2: treat partial commands as command line invocations Feb 08 19:29:45 hmm I guess it's not trivial to port this command mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetInfo Feb 08 19:29:54 without mdbus Feb 08 19:30:59 depends on the language Feb 08 19:31:05 with C, you need ~100 lines Feb 08 19:31:13 with python, that translates into 10 Feb 08 19:31:26 ctop Feb 08 19:32:14 c, c++ and java. Feb 08 19:32:53 but it is possible without mdbus then right? Feb 08 19:34:10 of course Feb 08 19:34:16 mdbus is just a frontend for dbus Feb 08 19:34:22 the functionality is done by fso Feb 08 19:34:27 you can even skip fso and talk to the modem directly Feb 08 19:34:31 although that is a bit more work ;) Feb 08 19:37:37 mickeyl, sorry, but how is your neo?) Feb 08 19:39:39 mickeyl, don't know if android uses dbus. Feb 08 19:39:51 Serdar: android pretty much reinvented GNU/Linux Feb 08 19:39:54 so i guess no Feb 08 19:40:19 max_posedon1: no idea, as you can image i was quite busy this weekend :) Feb 08 19:40:39 http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2010/02/08/fsoosdem-2010/ Feb 08 19:41:25 mickeyl, only 3h Feb 08 19:41:28 not 4 Feb 08 19:41:36 uh right Feb 08 19:41:37 * mickeyl fixes Feb 08 19:41:38 thanks Feb 08 19:42:55 if we can get a devroom again. <-- I can try it next year to, then there is no "if" :P Feb 08 19:43:11 well Feb 08 19:43:15 don't forget we were declined Feb 08 19:43:24 we asked right from the beginning Feb 08 19:43:32 but if you ask, it seems to work Feb 08 19:43:38 so we're looking forward ;) Feb 08 19:44:14 hehe. Feb 08 19:44:32 do ypu know how many rows of tables are there? Feb 08 19:44:48 hmm, writing a simple makefile isn't that easy... Feb 08 19:44:54 the page says there can be 59 people. Feb 08 19:44:56 8 i think Feb 08 19:45:08 but 59 sounds strange to me Feb 08 19:45:13 yeah Feb 08 19:45:37 8 rows a 10 seats 80 + some standing Feb 08 19:45:43 I guess we were mostly 100 people Feb 08 19:46:00 no there were 6 rows Feb 08 19:46:30 ok, makes sense. 6*10 with one broken chair = 59 Feb 08 19:46:38 what about the speaker though? :D Feb 08 19:46:45 :) Feb 08 19:47:11 i think ~70 people were there Feb 08 19:47:29 [20:43] I wonder what happens if you flash an fr that has already firmware 11 Feb 08 19:47:39 I say 100, think positive! Feb 08 19:48:10 don't say 100, otherwise they claim we didn't do our duty as devroom managers (think 'room full' sign) Feb 08 19:48:17 (firmware 11) nothing. Feb 08 19:48:44 we got a sign? Feb 08 19:49:07 hmm, i thought we were supposed to get some Feb 08 19:49:13 i didn't see them though Feb 08 19:49:17 yeah it was in the mail Feb 08 19:49:32 I was there before 8 but get late in the room :/ Feb 08 19:50:01 Q-Master, I sent you another mail. Feb 08 19:50:17 but we can say we got 100 people last year so we need a bigger devroom :> Feb 08 19:50:47 2012 we get a lightning talk in ferrer 2013 in janson a main talk. Feb 08 19:51:26 hahaha Feb 08 19:51:33 the plan for world domination Feb 08 19:51:34 i like that Feb 08 19:51:47 i want a keynote in janson Feb 08 19:52:40 if we join forces with all the OM projects Feb 08 19:53:26 qtmoko was missing, what else. Feb 08 19:53:45 mickeyl, is this picture of angstroem/beagleboard exist somewhere? Feb 08 19:54:03 only on my slides Feb 08 19:54:16 let me upload it Feb 08 19:54:46 git.openembedded.net[0: 140.211.169.165]: errno=Connection timed out Feb 08 19:54:46 fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out) Feb 08 19:54:47 ffs :( Feb 08 19:55:24 git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded.git Feb 08 19:55:33 works here Feb 08 19:56:48 so it's just me?! :( Feb 08 19:57:02 you've .net, I .org Feb 08 19:57:09 oh Feb 08 19:57:33 but seems same IPs Feb 08 19:57:35 dunno Feb 08 19:57:41 git.openembedded.org[0: 140.211.169.165]: errno=Connection timed out Feb 08 19:57:42 fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out) Feb 08 19:57:43 :| Feb 08 19:57:50 d'oh Feb 08 19:58:29 64 bytes from melo.openembedded.org (140.211.169.165): icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=207 ms Feb 08 19:58:48 ping works here Feb 08 19:58:53 same goes for http Feb 08 19:58:55 it's just git Feb 08 19:59:07 (the daemon) that doesn't work Feb 08 20:00:21 it works Feb 08 20:00:30 I can clone it, so it must be somewhere else Feb 08 20:01:01 ffs :( Feb 08 20:05:22 Serdar: here's my FOSDEM slides (GTA02++ picture included, can't find the jpg now) http://www.linuxtogo.org/~mickeyl/misc/FOSDEM2010.pdf Feb 08 20:06:50 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r86831e099d31 10/libmsmcomm/tools/generate_structs.py: libmsmcomm: generate_structs.py now generates only packed structures Feb 08 20:06:51 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r6b2c38310e38 10/libmsmcomm/tools/generate_structs.py: libmsmcomm: fix generating multiple structures from one input file Feb 08 20:06:55 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r1ff3f770cf55 10/libmsmcomm/ (15 files in 3 dirs): libmsmcomm: event/response structures are now autogenerated from description file Feb 08 20:08:00 ~praise morphis Feb 08 20:08:01 All hail morphis! Feb 08 20:09:20 ;) Feb 08 20:10:17 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r6de7195f0582 10/msmcterm/src/msmcterm.c: msmcterm: now we dump data when enabled with "dump 1" Feb 08 20:10:34 mickeyl, this was a beagle board right? Feb 08 20:10:40 no Feb 08 20:10:41 arm11 700 mhz Feb 08 20:10:49 no? Feb 08 20:10:50 it was a fully new design Feb 08 20:10:57 based on the beagle board Feb 08 20:11:06 meant so. Feb 08 20:11:18 said picture might actually be the orig. beagle board though Feb 08 20:11:37 anyhow, it's important to know it won't fit ;) Feb 08 20:11:43 so there has to be new silicon Feb 08 20:11:50 yes Feb 08 20:11:55 new processor Feb 08 20:12:16 new 3d and umts, that's all what I remember. Feb 08 20:12:36 is that correct? Feb 08 20:12:56 pretty much Feb 08 20:13:04 there's no details availble and things are in flux anyways Feb 08 20:13:25 i _have_ seen a PCB though Feb 08 20:13:28 my problem will be prise :/ Feb 08 20:13:30 so it's not vaporware :) Feb 08 20:13:40 price Feb 08 20:14:03 Heinervdm, you talked about shr? cool :P Feb 08 20:14:04 ya Feb 08 20:14:20 TAsn: you didn't know? Feb 08 20:14:28 no I didn't. Feb 08 20:14:47 :) Feb 08 20:15:44 I can try to help, but I guess need to wait it gets cheaper :> Feb 08 20:16:06 what I can do is looking for devrooms, that's all. Feb 08 20:17:09 that's good Feb 08 20:17:11 PR is always good Feb 08 20:17:21 getting interested folks together Feb 08 20:17:26 mickeyl: can you try this: http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr-git/mkbootimg.tar.gz ? Feb 08 20:17:45 Heinervdm, got some slides? :P Feb 08 20:17:47 I am goot at this. getting thinks working. Feb 08 20:18:48 TAsn: http://downloads.vdm-design.de/FOSDEM-2010.pdf Feb 08 20:19:05 thanks Feb 08 20:19:22 pdf really big... Feb 08 20:19:42 max_posedon: sorry, i'm addicted to high quality imagery :) Feb 08 20:19:46 why you are nameing all the same... Feb 08 20:19:48 Heinervdm: it compiles and creates a boot.bin Feb 08 20:19:51 np, just take time) Feb 08 20:20:05 Heinervdm: according to diff they're different, but that could be a timestamp or what not Feb 08 20:20:10 FOSDEM_2010_H1.pdf for example Feb 08 20:20:20 Heinervdm: i'll check whether the created image boots later tonite and then host it somewhere, oK? Feb 08 20:20:31 mickeyl: ok Feb 08 20:20:44 but i think we have to change a small thing Feb 08 20:20:51 because of the licence Feb 08 20:21:15 we need to chip the COPYING file with the lib Feb 08 20:21:22 ship Feb 08 20:21:49 okies Feb 08 20:21:58 Heinervdm, nice :) Feb 08 20:22:13 TAsn: Just seen your msg. Replied. Feb 08 20:22:42 TAsn: yes i think it was ok for my first talk in english :) Feb 08 20:22:43 Q-Master, thanks. Feb 08 20:22:48 Heinervdm, :) Feb 08 20:23:08 Heinervdm, just one thing, why did you have to put that screenie with the bottom shortcuts bug? ;P Feb 08 20:23:12 I still don't get it... why is my thread on the wrong place... Feb 08 20:23:16 :) Feb 08 20:23:33 Q-Master, I also need your /etc/freesmartphone/opim/ContactsFields.pickle Feb 08 20:23:38 nvm Feb 08 20:23:40 * TAsn is an idiot :) Feb 08 20:23:42 Serdar: don't care that's just pipermail Feb 08 20:23:56 okay. Feb 08 20:24:04 just asking. Feb 08 20:24:24 TAsn: i had no other screenie with the recent theme ;) Feb 08 20:24:59 Heinervdm, do what all the pros do Feb 08 20:25:01 Serdar: i looked at the code of your mail and there is no reason for this Feb 08 20:25:08 gimp (photoshop?) it :) Feb 08 20:25:10 Photoshop it? Feb 08 20:25:12 ;) Feb 08 20:25:20 real pros use gimp :) Feb 08 20:25:50 Heinervdm, no reason for what? Feb 08 20:25:57 yes, but i thought the right word is photoshopping ;) Feb 08 20:26:00 mrmoku, ping Feb 08 20:26:09 all the tv guys are using it Feb 08 20:26:13 Heinervdm, not if you are an "anti-fanboy" Feb 08 20:26:14 :) Feb 08 20:26:16 Serdar: for the missplacement Feb 08 20:26:44 I don't know eigther, I thought this thing works with RE: stuff. Feb 08 20:27:09 TAsn: I've thought that I've sent it Feb 08 20:27:16 Q-Master, you have Feb 08 20:27:19 I'm an idiot :) Feb 08 20:27:24 8) Feb 08 20:27:25 Serdar: no, i think it's working with message id's Feb 08 20:27:48 mrmoku, I noticed today that the gsm applet was more up to date than the idle_screen. I was somewhere without reception, and after coming out of there, gsm panel showed reception and network name a couple of minutes before idle_screen. Feb 08 20:29:49 hmm Feb 08 20:30:07 Q-Master, just out of interest, was the pickle file generated by pisi or manually? Feb 08 20:30:26 mrmoku, :| Feb 08 20:30:40 TAsn: by opimd fixing script. I'm not using PISI at all Feb 08 20:30:55 mrmoku, btw, I can't help it, it's just too cool :) (contacts) Feb 08 20:31:04 Q-Master, hehe, dos did a good job :) Feb 08 20:31:17 TAsn: but the bug with that field lasts for a long time already Feb 08 20:31:28 I wish he haven't used pickle, but ok ;) Feb 08 20:31:34 DocScrutinizer: yep, I saw... Feb 08 20:31:39 Q-Master, I don't remember what you wrote, but you are using unstable, right? Feb 08 20:32:02 TAsn: yep Feb 08 20:32:58 okie. Feb 08 20:33:01 just making sure. Feb 08 20:34:26 TAsn: (idle screen) no idea about that one :/ Feb 08 20:34:35 :) Feb 08 20:34:45 mrmoku, what does the gadget listen to? Feb 08 20:34:54 no idea about the gadget Feb 08 20:35:01 2 deths upto 24th page, funny) Feb 08 20:35:08 *death* Feb 08 20:35:11 heh Feb 08 20:35:28 BAH Feb 08 20:35:33 * TAsn is rebooting my connection Feb 08 20:35:37 :| Feb 08 20:35:39 bbl Feb 08 20:36:30 mickeyl, so, this is your presentation... Could smbd collect all links for all openmoko-related and sent to ML? Feb 08 20:37:10 sms2toast technology whaha Feb 08 20:37:18 * Weiss WANTS an xphone Feb 08 20:37:42 for your car? Feb 08 20:38:00 oh first response Feb 08 20:39:09 didn't solve it :( Feb 08 20:41:10 WHAT'S an xphone? Feb 08 20:41:30 an ms iphone? Feb 08 20:41:43 oooh sheeeesh Feb 08 20:41:47 :P Feb 08 20:41:51 that would be a wphone, no? Feb 08 20:41:59 (xbox) Feb 08 20:42:20 mrmoku, actually, I heard about windows 7 mobile version Feb 08 20:42:28 it has no multi-tasking though Feb 08 20:42:31 lol @ them. Feb 08 20:42:35 DocScrutinizer: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-February/060054.html Feb 08 20:42:52 who needs multitasking ;) Feb 08 20:43:09 eeeeek community-ML Feb 08 20:43:10 mrmoku, yeah Feb 08 20:43:14 multi tasking is for idiots Feb 08 20:43:23 real men use one app at a time. Feb 08 20:45:44 real men use one app for everything :-P Feb 08 20:46:22 I hear "emacs" over there... the guy in the 4th row Feb 08 20:46:42 must be PaulFertser then :P Feb 08 20:46:47 LOL Feb 08 20:46:52 *silence* Feb 08 20:47:43 DocScrutinizer, they are talking about their window manager ;) Feb 08 20:47:56 win 3.1 returns Feb 08 20:48:00 8) Feb 08 20:48:47 no. they use edit Feb 08 20:48:49 I heard emacs is a window manager as well Feb 08 20:49:51 ala Enhanced MacOS Substitute Feb 08 20:50:33 there's many meanings of emacs, not only Eighthundered Mb And Constantly Swapping Feb 08 20:51:38 DocScrutinizer: rebooted, power drain is back.. stand by for details from the back of the PCB... Feb 08 20:51:51 tzztzz Feb 08 20:52:24 that shit starts to give me bad feelings Feb 08 20:52:49 yeah Feb 08 20:53:03 Weiss: did you boot barebones kernel? Feb 08 20:53:11 unrelated-ish: is it possible/advisable to disconnect the GPS antenna to avoid snapping the wire? Feb 08 20:53:40 Weiss: highly Feb 08 20:54:08 it just pulls off? Feb 08 20:54:12 yup Feb 08 20:54:57 and if you break the wire, don't worry. plenty of spare here Feb 08 20:55:24 Weiss: and it's really easy Feb 08 20:55:29 done :) Feb 08 20:55:44 that saves me needing 15 fingers for taking the PCB out Feb 08 20:55:57 I once disconnected the antenna for the very same reasons and then wondered for a long time why the hell my gps didn't work. Feb 08 20:56:03 hmm.. BT module seems to have separated from the can .. maybe due to the glue getting hot? Feb 08 20:56:18 Weiss: quite possibly Feb 08 20:56:28 Weiss: the pmu is right beneath Feb 08 20:58:47 * DocScrutinizer bbl Feb 08 20:59:09 rare medium for me please ;-P Feb 08 21:00:50 * Weiss throws another steak on his Glamo chip Feb 08 21:06:17 * Weiss wonders is this is somehow related to WSoDdiness of 2.6.32 Feb 08 21:06:38 Weiss: so itsglamo is getting hot? Feb 08 21:06:59 I don't know yet.. Feb 08 21:07:06 waiting for the "grill" to warm up a bit more so I can tell Feb 08 21:07:07 I made a new bb on my system, now for publish it on the shr feed do I have to git add & commit? Feb 08 21:07:12 Weiss: it takes me ~20 minutes to take out the main can btw Feb 08 21:07:28 Weiss: tricky, the can gets deformed a bit in the process Feb 08 21:07:49 yeah :S Feb 08 21:07:56 I want to avoid doing that if at all possible Feb 08 21:23:43 hmm... still difficult to tell Feb 08 21:24:38 the BT module is cold at least Feb 08 21:28:15 great... looks like I just broke my last debugboard flex cable. anybody knows where to get new ones? Feb 08 21:28:48 :( Feb 08 21:29:36 tx is still working but rx is not :/ Feb 08 21:29:46 I have a spare (free debug board with my second FR, but already have one) which you can have/borrow Feb 08 21:33:03 * DocScrutinizer wonders if anybody ever checked power consumption during WSoD Feb 08 21:34:26 I spent a lot of time with my FR WSo"D"ed while bringing KMS up, and didn't notice this back then Feb 08 21:35:00 but that (nor the 2.6.3.2 WSoDs) aren't really "death" Feb 08 21:35:10 larsc: There once was a guy trying to talk Wolfgang and Steve into sending an envelope with 50..200 spare to Europe/D/N. Alas this didn't pan out Feb 08 21:36:19 hm Feb 08 21:36:31 DocScrutinizer: aren't the flex cables easily obtainable from some general sources? Feb 08 21:36:33 so now after OM/phone_dpt gone down for all practical POV... Feb 08 21:37:01 PaulFertser: afaik they're built-to-order Feb 08 21:37:14 gonna ask wolfgang. maybe he still has a pack somewhere... Feb 08 21:40:24 larsc: I have some 5 here. It seems you really need a working FPC Feb 08 21:41:02 so if Wolfgang can't help - ping me Feb 08 21:41:35 larsc: I can lend you my spare for a couple of weeks while you sort that out to keep you running Feb 08 21:43:17 Weiss: thanks Feb 08 21:43:49 I'm currently quite busy anyway and should rather be learning for exams. so it might actually be a good think Feb 08 21:44:41 Andy should have a few left over from the pack of 25 I sent to him summer 2 years ago Feb 08 21:44:47 :--D Feb 08 21:45:00 hi larsc Feb 08 21:45:05 have we met yesterday? Feb 08 21:45:06 hi Serdar Feb 08 21:45:20 Serdar: maybe Feb 08 21:45:50 Bar 2 with Michael Feb 08 21:46:05 yes Feb 08 21:47:01 yay Feb 08 21:47:10 OE is finally reachable :) Feb 08 21:48:36 TAsn hates OE! Feb 08 21:48:50 aye :) Feb 08 21:48:59 2h ago Feb 08 21:49:06 you changed your mind? Feb 08 21:49:21 I'm ok with OE Feb 08 21:49:24 I just hate their servers Feb 08 21:49:27 lagging out on me :) Feb 08 21:49:37 and even when they work I get Feb 08 21:49:39 8kbps Feb 08 21:49:39 :| Feb 08 21:49:40 I'm not ok with their package manager Feb 08 21:49:46 opkg? Feb 08 21:49:46 what is the recommended way to configure wlan in shr-testing? Feb 08 21:49:58 TAsn: you bet Feb 08 21:50:29 :) Feb 08 21:51:18 btw, about servers, git.openmoko.org start respnonce to git pull? Feb 08 21:51:33 .oO its works Feb 08 21:54:13 pisi is nice :) Feb 08 21:54:46 PaulFertser: quote from mickey during fosdem regarding OE: "We don't focus on quality, we focus on quantity" Feb 08 21:56:05 lol Feb 08 21:57:54 larsc: oh, really? I bet he'd say it's taken out of the context ;) Feb 08 21:58:21 seems Weiss' FR got a core meltdown, evaporating all mater in a 200m radius Feb 08 21:58:38 larsc: if only OE had a decent package manager i'd think it's acceptable and nice enough method of creating a cross-compiled distro. Feb 08 22:01:04 larsc: but OpenWRT is using opkg also, do not they? I wonder how you can tolerate such a questionable software ;) Feb 08 22:02:41 PaulFertser: by not using it. i'm only flashing whole images and nothing else ;) Feb 08 22:03:22 larsc: i knew you had a joker in your sleeve ;) Feb 08 22:03:54 OE is for washing machines. Period Feb 08 22:04:46 larsc, kernel-devs, 2.6.32, any chanse that you will merge om-gta02 and om-gta01 on 2.6.32 ? Feb 08 22:05:11 e.g. I would like have commit, which have all patches for gta02 and gta01 Feb 08 22:05:27 (for nice gentoo kernel ebuild) Feb 08 22:05:27 DocScrutinizer: OE is persistently creating decent opportunity for cross-compiling packages, i think they did more than anybody on this way. Feb 08 22:07:03 max_posedon: there is currently no 2.6.32 support for the gta01. Feb 08 22:07:15 still it's E. Like Embedded. That's a washing machine. Or maybe a router. Nothing you ever would use opkg on the device. That's why OE sucks for a standard interactive system Feb 08 22:07:26 Hi. I’m using SHR for some weeks now, and did not change the config or upgraded. But suddently suspend does not work, and /var/log/fsousaged says: Feb 08 22:07:34 larsc, ok Feb 08 22:07:37 UsageController [WARNING] <0 resources>: Can't find plugin for lowlevel_type = 'openmoko'; suspend/resume will NOT be available! Feb 08 22:07:41 Any idea whats wrong? Feb 08 22:08:04 nomeata, configs Feb 08 22:08:38 max_posedon: but I did not modify them... Feb 08 22:08:47 max_posedon: (or was that a request to paste my config?) Feb 08 22:08:49 isn't it possible to create deb packages using OE and use apt for management? Feb 08 22:09:16 nomeata, I'm not guru of all this configs, but defenetly you just haven't them Feb 08 22:09:20 ynezz: it is but they consider apt+dpkg to be too resource-hungry. Feb 08 22:09:23 or. some files missing Feb 08 22:09:57 ynezz: in fact the packages use exactly the same format. Feb 08 22:10:13 resource-hungry = RAM? Feb 08 22:10:33 ynezz: both RAM and CPU, probably HDD space as well. Feb 08 22:11:18 ynezz: but i think FR's resources are quite enough for that, so i see no reason to not use apt+dpkg with OE on FR. mickeyl's probably something more insightful to say. Feb 08 22:11:40 hm, you're not using apt/dpkg 24/7 do you? so CPU shouldn't be a problem, maybe battery Feb 08 22:12:29 ynezz: i think it's not a problem ever, i do not use it that often, so i can wait. Feb 08 22:12:58 well I've never used package management system on embedded device, I'm like larsc Feb 08 22:13:01 ~ping Weiss Feb 08 22:13:02 pong Weiss Feb 08 22:14:08 apt, you stupid bot. And don't even think about talking back! (I know you will anyway...) Feb 08 22:14:31 ~ping ynezz Feb 08 22:14:32 pong ynezz Feb 08 22:14:43 what's purpose of this? :p Feb 08 22:14:53 that's idiocy Feb 08 22:14:57 ynezz: enjoynment Feb 08 22:15:59 * DocScrutinizer triggers a traceroue to Weiss to determine the event horizon Feb 08 22:16:13 TAsn: i wonder what you think about trying to use apt+dpkg+OE... Feb 08 22:17:03 AAAAAHH it eaten the Alps Feb 08 22:17:24 PaulFertser, just replace opkg on the moko? Feb 08 22:17:29 TAsn: yes Feb 08 22:17:38 no idea, I don't really care :) Feb 08 22:17:42 isn't apt too slow though? Feb 08 22:17:44 TAsn: it was you who cared! Feb 08 22:17:49 TAsn: it's ok. Feb 08 22:17:51 PaulFertser, I do care Feb 08 22:17:54 TAsn: better correct than slow. Feb 08 22:17:58 than fast Feb 08 22:18:17 TAsn: you proposed to create an alternative package manager. Feb 08 22:18:24 PaulFertser, yes Feb 08 22:18:29 I can even feel it dragging me south Feb 08 22:18:41 "I don't care" - was kinda automated response :P Feb 08 22:18:43 TAsn: but probably apt+dpkg is still better than opkg, somebody should evaluate that. Feb 08 22:18:44 (since I'm tired) Feb 08 22:18:52 PaulFertser, we have evaluated that. Feb 08 22:18:58 and we do agree it's better Feb 08 22:19:08 So why do not you use it? Feb 08 22:19:19 the problem is that we lack OE support atm. (from what I know) Feb 08 22:19:26 PaulFertser: but vrt. what? oe sure is not aiming to meet debian policy standards afaik Feb 08 22:19:30 I thought it should be possible with OE without much hassle. The package format is the same. Feb 08 22:19:32 PaulFertser, when we create a rootfs Feb 08 22:19:43 PaulFertser: +correct Feb 08 22:19:44 we also use opkg (native) Feb 08 22:19:53 to install Feb 08 22:19:55 (iirc) Feb 08 22:20:04 DocScrutinizer: pong Feb 08 22:20:09 so we'll have to build apt-native Feb 08 22:20:09 * nomeata is baffled how FSO stops working without any deliberate change to the system Feb 08 22:20:15 and try to patch OE to use apt instead Feb 08 22:20:20 sholud probably be really easy. Feb 08 22:20:21 wooohooo, you survived the big bang :-) Feb 08 22:20:25 lindi-: OE is aiming at providing a bleeding-edge cross-compiled (in a gentoo style) distro (in debian style). I see the valid reasons to use it. Feb 08 22:20:28 PaulFertser, so actually, why not :P Feb 08 22:20:33 TAsn: seems like a plan :) Feb 08 22:20:37 Weiss: how's my steak now? Feb 08 22:20:47 ynezz, We only miss someone to execute it :) Feb 08 22:21:10 I'll only have time after the 15th Feb 08 22:21:14 DocScrutinizer: still hard to tell.. not the BT, but can't tell beyond that.. Feb 08 22:21:19 PaulFertser: sure. i just mean that with "correct" you need to have some standards Feb 08 22:21:44 PaulFertser: so that you can judge if something is correct or not Feb 08 22:21:52 lindi-: by correct package management i meant that the tool should be reasonably non-buggy. Feb 08 22:22:21 lindi-: and maintainable. I've heard that opkg's code is pos. Feb 08 22:23:23 Anyway, /me's off to sleep. Have a nice evening, gentlemen. :) Feb 08 22:25:06 Weiss: don't be too shy to open the can (of worms ;-) Feb 08 22:26:00 if it gets a lil bent, you simply bend it back into shape Feb 08 22:29:04 SHR: 03tom 07phonefsod * r2e7de19ea4ed 10/src/phonefsod-fso.c: Fixed the bug that idle_screen closes when a call comes in Feb 08 22:29:08 mrmoku|away, please build phonefsod, I fixed the bug that closes idle_screen when a call comes in. It was in the Display resource handling. Feb 08 22:32:46 TAsn, mrmoku|away can I report issue with touch screen dimming bug?) Feb 08 22:33:15 in trac or here? :) Feb 08 22:33:16 looks like sometimes events conflict, and if you try for example play card game it will change britness Feb 08 22:33:39 80<->100, than after some moment "light" even will be lost and it will be changed to Feb 08 22:34:01 60<->80, after while 40<->60... Feb 08 22:34:18 looks like sometimes "next" event override previous Feb 08 22:35:35 max_posedon: I barely get what you're telling Feb 08 22:36:57 ok, retry Feb 08 22:37:31 phonefsod doing nice briteness magic: -20% after some "events less" situation Feb 08 22:37:39 and +20% on screen touch Feb 08 22:37:56 so, briteness jump 80%<->100% Feb 08 22:38:17 prelock dim Feb 08 22:38:29 or somesuch Feb 08 22:38:36 but sometimes, "touch" event don't generate "increase britness event" (or its become overriden by next) Feb 08 22:38:55 aah yes Feb 08 22:39:01 now i got it Feb 08 22:39:14 so, from jumping 80%<->100%, you have 60%<->80% after few mins, an then 40%<->60%, and... so on Feb 08 22:39:24 yepyep Feb 08 22:39:43 will it fix on a complete dim of screen Feb 08 22:39:45 ? Feb 08 22:40:07 I don't know, its so annoying, that I just disable screen dimming Feb 08 22:40:51 sounds like fso domain Feb 08 22:41:43 PaulFertser: not sure if apt is that maintainable either Feb 08 22:42:06 phonefsod.conf have config for this behaviour I think Feb 08 22:42:47 anyway sounds like a race Feb 08 22:43:56 so, TAsn, did you understand about what I speak? Feb 08 22:44:19 max_posedon, I haven't read it yet, sorry. Feb 08 22:44:22 doing something Feb 08 22:44:25 just a moment Feb 08 22:44:30 but if you can (until I review it) Feb 08 22:44:34 please open a bug Feb 08 22:44:42 as I won't fix it atm. Feb 08 22:44:44 ok) Feb 08 22:45:37 max_posedon, happened to me sometimes too I think :) Feb 08 22:46:13 Its happends for everyone who tryed use xchat and play card games I think) Feb 08 22:49:02 http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/937 Feb 08 22:55:26 big kde.org rebrending... Feb 08 22:55:38 (yes, its OT for now here) Feb 08 23:10:57 Symbian for freerunner sounds interesting too. Feb 08 23:11:57 max_posedon, we actually rely on fso signals Feb 08 23:12:00 (dimming) Feb 08 23:12:08 so I don't think that's the issue. Feb 08 23:12:27 I think you loosing 1st, when receiving both in 1 moment Feb 08 23:12:32 and I really hope (don't remember) that we don't change by upping X% Feb 08 23:12:36 but still its easy reprodusable Feb 08 23:12:54 max_posedon, will try to reporduce and investigate when I have time. Feb 08 23:19:40 finally, sorted out my contacts! :) Feb 08 23:19:53 was terrible :) Feb 08 23:26:32 max_posedon: ok, just tried the latest suite and it looked quite well on my FR Feb 08 23:26:38 max_posedon: let me upload a reference log for you Feb 08 23:27:10 will be nice, I'll try find diff Feb 08 23:27:30 http://pastebin.ca/1790739 Feb 08 23:27:57 it's important you don't hammer the modem too early Feb 08 23:27:57 let it come to a silent state before sending commands Feb 08 23:27:59 grep for my '===' annotations in the log Feb 08 23:30:14 ok, but can you stop fsogsmd and retry once more? Feb 08 23:30:34 e.g. I always did tests after stopping shr's frameworkd Feb 08 23:31:23 fsogsmd reliably restarts the modem Feb 08 23:31:28 if you restart it Feb 08 23:31:47 just be sure to stop fso-abyss and phonefsod Feb 08 23:31:54 so you have full control over the lifecycle Feb 08 23:33:38 I can't belive that I did so many tests and always requested resource so early Feb 08 23:41:59 mickeyl, still "2010-02-08T23:41:39.803443Z [ERROR] DBusServiceDevice <>: Can't open modem" here ( Feb 08 23:42:26 2010-02-08T23:40:19.820025Z [INFO] DBusServiceResource : registered with org.freesmartphone.ousaged 2010-02-08T23:41:36.089166Z [DEBUG] DBusServiceResource : Enabling GSM resource... Feb 08 23:42:34 2 min diff should be enough Feb 08 23:42:55 so, I still have situation exactly as in ticket Feb 08 23:43:43 (contacts) yay, finally everything is mostly sane :) Feb 08 23:44:03 or fso-raw -r GSM sleep 3600 is bad command? Feb 08 23:45:39 mickeyl, and its happends again and again... Feb 08 23:46:46 mickeyl, could you share your abyss.conf? Feb 08 23:47:01 mine http://paste.pocoo.org/show/175571/ Feb 08 23:48:34 same here Feb 08 23:49:08 are you 100% sure you don't have any concurrent processes running that would have a grab on the modem? Feb 08 23:49:42 (you do start fsogsmd by hand, aren't you?) Feb 08 23:50:00 (i.e. not via system activation?) Feb 08 23:50:56 yep, by hand Feb 08 23:53:17 hmm Feb 08 23:53:19 say... Feb 08 23:53:23 which kernel is that? Feb 08 23:53:28 .29 i suppose? Feb 08 23:54:01 yes. .29 Feb 08 23:54:06 ok, same here Feb 08 23:54:15 I use shr-unstable stuff Feb 08 23:54:18 what is the lowlevel_openmoko telling? Feb 08 23:54:25 should say something like: Feb 08 23:54:27 just stopped all services, and chroot to gentoo Feb 08 23:54:41 2010-02-08T23:14:21.315101Z [DEBUG] LowLevelOpenmoko <>: setPower: got 30 bytes in buf Feb 08 23:54:41 2010-02-08T23:14:21.324819Z [DEBUG] LowLevelOpenmoko <>: setPower: got 9 bytes in buf Feb 08 23:54:41 2010-02-08T23:14:21.334774Z [DEBUG] LowLevelOpenmoko <>: setPower: got 6 bytes in buf Feb 08 23:54:41 2010-02-08T23:14:21.335277Z [DEBUG] LowLevelOpenmoko <>: setPower: answer OK, ready to send first command Feb 08 23:54:41 2010-02-08T23:14:21.344726Z [DEBUG] LowLevelOpenmoko <>: setPower: answer OK, modem prepared for MUX commands Feb 08 23:54:47 that's the critical section Feb 08 23:55:35 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/175573/ Feb 08 23:55:48 ah, ok Feb 08 23:55:49 exactly like yours but result is different Feb 08 23:55:54 so it goes into MUX mode Feb 08 23:55:58 but then it bails out early Feb 08 23:56:10 hmm Feb 08 23:58:04 max_posedon, btw, speaking of the devil, I just suffered from the dim bug and got down to %20 :P Feb 09 00:00:29 is your libfsotransport current? Feb 09 00:01:53 as well as libgsm0710mux? Feb 09 00:02:23 I think yes, but can reinstall from current master Feb 09 00:02:29 might be worth a try Feb 09 00:03:02 after "will open 4 channels", the code path goes into libfsotransport and then libgsm0710mux Feb 09 00:03:59 you have all logs at ticket, doesn't they says smth that prove smth? Feb 09 00:04:09 anyway, reinstalling, but this can take some time Feb 09 00:06:01 well, the thing is Feb 09 00:06:08 log 1 seems to work fine Feb 09 00:06:27 http://trac.freesmartphone.org/attachment/ticket/516/fsogsmd.log is an almost good run Feb 09 00:06:29 at first Feb 09 00:06:47 2010-02-05T22:16:20.276171Z [ERROR] DBusServiceDevice <>: Can't open modem Feb 09 00:06:51 at 46 line Feb 09 00:06:55 yes, but that's the 2nd run Feb 09 00:07:16 2010-02-05T22:16:15.653420Z [INFO] DBusServiceDevice <>: Modem opened successfully Feb 09 00:07:20 line 33 Feb 09 00:07:27 and then for some reason you release the resource Feb 09 00:07:33 and the 2nd opening fails Feb 09 00:07:36 (which is known) Feb 09 00:08:07 1-44 generated here just after fsogsmd starts Feb 09 00:08:15 before! requesting resource Feb 09 00:08:31 e.g. 1-37 Feb 09 00:09:00 hmm i really don't see how that could be Feb 09 00:09:04 something is interfering there Feb 09 00:09:10 try removing fsousaged altogether Feb 09 00:09:25 ah, now I know that transport defenerly not latet because I have vala 0.7.10 Feb 09 00:09:34 but fsogsmd starts fsousaged Feb 09 00:09:40 only if present Feb 09 00:09:46 if you remove it, it can't start it Feb 09 00:09:58 ah, ok, let me try Feb 09 00:13:01 mickeyl, works without fsousaged Feb 09 00:13:12 good Feb 09 00:13:43 I even see that my sim have one sms tmp/fsogsmd/sms/257027000870360/ Feb 09 00:13:48 awesome Feb 09 00:13:51 but directory is empty) Feb 09 00:13:51 then i can go to bed :) Feb 09 00:14:11 really?!) so, now you understand fsousaged issue? Feb 09 00:14:16 no Feb 09 00:14:24 something goes wrong for you Feb 09 00:14:24 as for me. I'll update vala, and install required stuff Feb 09 00:14:25 ok) Feb 09 00:14:27 but i can't reproduce Feb 09 00:14:29 so i'm at a loos Feb 09 00:14:30 loss Feb 09 00:14:42 but it's not important right now Feb 09 00:14:49 getting it to work at all is more Feb 09 00:14:58 btw., the sms directory is per IMEI Feb 09 00:15:09 empty means you have no sms for that IMEI Feb 09 00:15:25 otherwise it would look like that: Feb 09 00:15:54 /tmp/fsogsmd/sms/262074080573632/491770610000_491772616464_2371512974_1 Feb 09 00:16:02 ... Feb 09 00:16:13 g'night Feb 09 02:09:45 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * reef9ecf9e3f2 10/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: mdbus2: fix -p option to show PIDs for services Feb 09 02:23:48 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2bff726e76f3 10/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: mdbus2: disable -p when used in conjunction with -i Feb 09 02:23:49 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc97f4a4c83e7 10/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: mdbus2: add full help text Feb 09 02:59:13 anybody awake? Feb 09 02:59:48 need the magic incantation to untar a *.tgz in busybox **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 09 02:59:56 2010