**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 14 02:59:57 2010 Feb 14 04:46:02 $C $chan $channel Feb 14 04:46:16 sigh Feb 14 06:07:46 JaMa|GoNe, even if it was, who cares? you do a lot of good, so a bit of evil now and there isn't too bad. Feb 14 06:07:52 *then Feb 14 06:11:00 TAsn: you're sick. even with a few lon to the west you shouldn't hang around on IRC this time :-P Feb 14 06:11:23 8:17, I'm just about to go to work Feb 14 06:11:37 HUH?? Feb 14 06:11:54 aaaar cracy jews Feb 14 06:11:55 as you can see, my tiredness affects me Feb 14 06:11:59 DocScrutinizer, yeah :( Feb 14 06:12:03 we work on sundays :( Feb 14 06:12:36 anyhow, I'm almost late Feb 14 06:12:37 ciao. Feb 14 06:12:44 ciao Feb 14 06:12:47 :-) Feb 14 06:15:30 btw you're 6 minutes early Feb 14 06:16:08 or 54 minutes late ;-P Feb 14 08:11:07 DocScrutinizer: it *does not* uninstall mdbus... Feb 14 08:11:18 what uninstalled mdbus on my phone is that we removed it from the lite image Feb 14 08:28:42 hey, actually shr-u is GSM-registering again, at least for me Feb 14 08:31:00 on yesterday late-night upgrade I got http://shr.pastebin.com/m61f8740b, which I didn't realize before this morning Feb 14 08:31:39 so I made a "opkg --force-reinstall install libphone-ui0" Feb 14 08:31:54 then I installed mdbus2 and rebooted, thats it Feb 14 08:31:59 maybe that helps... Feb 14 11:45:43 TAsn: hehe, thanks :) Feb 14 11:59:37 playya_: ping Feb 14 12:01:36 mrmoku, pong Feb 14 12:02:35 playya_: playing with libfso now Feb 14 12:02:43 cool Feb 14 12:02:59 I first have to get a proxy with one of the _proxy_new functions Feb 14 12:03:13 and from that get the interface with the apropriate macro? Feb 14 12:03:21 yes Feb 14 12:03:45 which valac version do you use? Feb 14 12:04:05 latest from mickey Feb 14 12:04:09 maybe we have to upload a new version with the patch included Feb 14 12:05:28 playya_: no idea about that... Feb 14 12:06:01 can you use methods or do you have to use -> on the object? Feb 14 12:07:09 FreeSmartphonePIMSourcesProxy *ps = free_smartphone_pim_source_proxy_new(...) Feb 14 12:07:19 FreeSmartphonePIMSourcesIface *iface = FREE_SMARTPHONE_PIM_SOURCES_GET_INTERFACE(ps); Feb 14 12:07:30 iface->get_backends(sources_callback, ps); Feb 14 12:07:35 wrong? Feb 14 12:07:59 missing FreeSmartphonePIMSources* self Feb 14 12:08:08 as first param... Feb 14 12:08:08 there should be a free_smartphone_pim_sources_get_backends method Feb 14 12:08:47 this is new in the header Feb 14 12:09:21 then I need that patch :P Feb 14 12:10:32 ok Feb 14 12:10:53 maybe we can release a new version this evening, when i finished my patch Feb 14 12:11:05 playya_: good, will continue then :) Feb 14 12:11:19 you can still play with it Feb 14 12:11:41 you only have to replace the -> by the method call Feb 14 12:12:22 the function is there in the lib, just not exposed via header? Feb 14 12:12:44 and the cast shouldn't be necessary, because the method pics the interface from the object Feb 14 12:12:49 yes Feb 14 12:13:38 free_smartphone_pim_sources_get_backends(ps, sources_callback, NULL); Feb 14 12:15:20 yes Feb 14 12:23:34 playya_: that segfaults somewhere in __real_free_smartphone_pim_sources_get_backends Feb 14 12:23:43 ok Feb 14 12:23:52 the use the interface :) Feb 14 12:23:58 s/the/then/ Feb 14 12:23:58 playya_ meant: then use the interface :) Feb 14 12:24:38 playya_: how to get the FreeSmartphonePIMSources * needed as first self parameter then? Feb 14 12:25:07 let me check how vala does this ;) Feb 14 12:28:24 ok, just write here what you find... meanwhile is Pizza time :) Feb 14 12:28:32 bb after Pizza :P Feb 14 12:45:57 free_smartphone_device_led_set_brightness (self->priv->led, 100, __lambda0__gasync_ready_callback, self); Feb 14 12:46:11 led is an interface Feb 14 12:47:01 ah ok. you don't have to use the macro on the call, just a usual cast Feb 14 13:02:06 is it possible to emulate the freerunner hardware, so I don't need to flash everytime to test something? Feb 14 13:03:14 there used to be a qemu port Feb 14 13:03:48 you mean neo1973 port? Feb 14 13:03:58 yup Feb 14 13:04:32 I am interested in neo freerunner Feb 14 13:19:40 what do you want to test? Feb 14 13:23:22 it's for debugging. it's hard: change the code, compile, flash, debug. Feb 14 13:23:47 would be easier to use qemu or if it's possible the android emulator. Feb 14 13:26:19 hi all Feb 14 13:31:48 playya_: ok, will try that, thanks Feb 14 13:32:19 but you need a patched vala Feb 14 13:32:46 Serdar, what do you want to debug? Feb 14 13:34:25 gps, bluetooth, wifi, softkeyboard, lockscreen and some more. Feb 14 13:40:20 to test the dbus stuff you can use gabriel Feb 14 13:41:17 and you don't have to reflash all the time Feb 14 13:41:22 is there dbus on android? need to look Feb 14 13:41:37 you are on android? Feb 14 13:41:48 sure. Feb 14 13:41:48 i don't think so Feb 14 13:41:58 they are using a different IPC Feb 14 13:42:27 okay there is dbus Feb 14 14:33:54 ~seen heinervdm Feb 14 14:33:57 heinervdm <~thomas@pD9E15F68.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 1d 2h 19m 53s ago, saying: 'sybren: that doesn't play a role with the current design of opimd'. Feb 14 14:35:21 JaMa|GoNe: hmm.. did you get an error about "No rule to make target `depend', needed by `default'" when compiling mesa-dri-glsl-native? Feb 14 14:37:28 no havent seen thal Feb 14 14:44:59 hmm, CIABot still borken Feb 14 14:45:02 *sigh* Feb 14 14:51:33 * Weiss is also failing to make NAT work between his laptop and Neo(s) Feb 14 14:51:40 one of those days.. Feb 14 14:52:10 I uploaded the code for my Bluetooth manager/OBEX client: https://launchpad.net/blackherd Feb 14 14:52:43 GNUtoo: fyi: mkbootimg is now @ git.fso Feb 14 14:52:49 GNUtoo: utilities/android Feb 14 15:05:07 mrmoku|away, phoneuid is still broken :( Feb 14 15:05:11 (signals) Feb 14 15:05:45 Weiss: need some iptables help? ;) Feb 14 15:07:17 PaulFertser: I can manage the iptables bit manually, but I want it to work automagically.. Feb 14 15:07:38 wpwrak: Hi, i've got a wifi AP i can control (not to the driver level, but i can set/unset wpa/rsn/ciphers) at home with which FR fails to work, even with the maxperf trick. Do you think it worth trying to tcpdump the traffic with e.g. my laptop and then to spend hours trying to decipher it? Or are all the bad things happening on lower layer (fucking ar6000 firmware) anyway? Feb 14 15:07:50 Weiss: with udev? Feb 14 15:08:10 PaulFertser: it does not work at all? Feb 14 15:08:32 lindi-: with wpa/rsn it associates but fails to authenticate Feb 14 15:08:41 PaulFertser: does it work without encryption? Feb 14 15:08:43 lindi-: i guess it'll work "ok" without encryption. Feb 14 15:08:46 ok Feb 14 15:08:57 lindi-: but i haven't tried tbh. Do you think it worth doing?.. Feb 14 15:08:59 mickeyl, ok Feb 14 15:09:28 mickeyl, did it compile without the android libc? Feb 14 15:09:28 PaulFertser: sure. it's always easier to try to move from working sitation towards the non-working situation Feb 14 15:09:44 PaulFertser: than be in the non-working situation and try to figure out where to go next Feb 14 15:10:52 lindi-: if you know you face a concrete wall anyway it makes no sense to step several meters back hoping that the wall magically disappears. Feb 14 15:14:59 PaulFertser: true, bit like with calypso bugs. not very motivating to work with them when you know you can't really fix them Feb 14 15:15:32 Exactly Feb 14 15:16:30 anyways, wpa seems to work for me(tm) Feb 14 15:23:26 lindi-: indeed, it's not wpa or rsn that makes problems per se. My FR works with other APs with wpa too. But not with this one. Feb 14 15:26:35 <[Rui]> Weiss: hi, last night it happened again Feb 14 15:26:53 <[Rui]> Weiss: the black screen. but the phone appeared to be working as it got two calls Feb 14 15:38:05 could you tell whether or not the backlight was on? Feb 14 15:38:40 under certain circumstances with SHR-t and SHR-u, the backlight dimming goes wrong such that it gets a little darker every time..(Amelie style.. I thought I was going mad) Feb 14 15:39:17 calypso bugs???? Thought there aren't any left over :-P Feb 14 15:40:01 granted the AT+CCLK bug is not very serious Feb 14 15:41:33 lindi-: honestly, you always could talk to dieter (or even me, though I'm not really a crack witht that windoze shit, nor with calypso fw details) when you got a clear bug description and a suggestion how to fix that Feb 14 15:43:23 DocScrutinizer: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2291 should be quite clear description and easy to reproduce but it is probably not worth the effort :) Feb 14 15:43:39 yup Feb 14 15:45:14 especially since this might be really low level shit like a race or somesuch. Not even Dieter knows how to touch that Feb 14 15:45:54 looks like memory corruption due to race or other bug to me yes Feb 14 15:46:04 so basically you're missing the sugetion how to *fix* it here, to apply for above offer ;-) Feb 14 15:47:00 fix is to read the time three times and return the median value :P Feb 14 15:47:46 hmm, ok. We can think about that. yes Feb 14 15:48:20 but that can be done in userland Feb 14 15:48:26 no need to mess with calypso firmware Feb 14 15:48:34 let's see how's the effort to do this in calypso, vs when done in userland :-P Feb 14 15:49:04 exactly :-D Feb 14 15:50:22 anyways, i'm starting to be happy with phone calls on openmoko Feb 14 15:50:39 the final "other people can't sometimes hear me" bug has been narrowed down a bit Feb 14 15:50:52 incredible! those words from your lips Feb 14 15:51:42 GNUtoo: sure, compiles fine against glibc Feb 14 15:51:51 ok nice Feb 14 15:51:54 GNUtoo: and it even creates working images, i tried Feb 14 15:51:58 wow Feb 14 15:52:02 GNUtoo: what's the state of your work atm? Feb 14 15:52:16 DocScrutinizer: i'm pretty sure it's somehow related to kernel not always setting all alsa controls on "alsactl restore" or something Feb 14 15:52:24 xf86-video-msm is buggy but works Feb 14 15:52:35 and I've only 1 build system for all my devices Feb 14 15:52:37 lindi-: quite possible Feb 14 15:52:49 so I was waiting for leviathan compilation to finish Feb 14 15:53:07 DocScrutinizer: but still no solid proof yet, only noticed that in my setup it was possible for two alsactl processes to run at the same time in a very unlikely scenario Feb 14 15:53:32 mickeyl, I think if leviathan doesn't fix backlight I would have to try Feb 14 15:53:37 because it's very annoying Feb 14 15:53:37 DocScrutinizer: and when tomageeni used my odd setup (kapula etc.) he managed to reproduce the issue Feb 14 15:53:42 evil enough Feb 14 15:54:45 maybe the solution is to run alsactl three times :P Feb 14 15:55:15 (there is no way to read the values back so i can't prove that they aren't sometimes set) Feb 14 15:55:51 exactly Feb 14 15:56:32 the whole wm8753.c driver (and relatives) never seen any review by a wide public Feb 14 15:56:49 GNUtoo: yeah. try to add max_brightness at first Feb 14 15:56:51 and readback of wm8753 registers is a fake Feb 14 15:56:52 should be easy Feb 14 15:56:57 just an additional field in the platform data Feb 14 15:57:21 DocScrutinizer: yep, cached Feb 14 15:57:27 yep Feb 14 15:57:46 ok Feb 14 15:58:15 TAsn: try to -force-reinstall libphone-ui0 Feb 14 15:58:19 DocScrutinizer: is it possible to construct an alsa state that can be used both during ringtone playing and call? ;) Feb 14 15:58:31 * DocScrutinizer suggests to closely review (even implement?) mutex for I2C access, and another one for wm8753 driver itself Feb 14 15:58:48 lindi-: nope Feb 14 15:58:55 mrmoku, oh shit. Feb 14 15:58:58 my bad :P Feb 14 15:59:02 lindi-: mompl Feb 14 15:59:07 max_brightness is 255 I think Feb 14 15:59:13 lindi-: lemme thinlk Feb 14 15:59:35 lindi-: good question Feb 14 16:00:12 TAsn: local builds are dangerous ;) Feb 14 16:00:18 mrmoku, aye :P Feb 14 16:00:24 lindi-: A will take a few minutes. I have to check Feb 14 16:00:41 DocScrutinizer: no need to hurry Feb 14 16:00:43 TAsn: I have a new strange segfault :( Feb 14 16:00:49 messages? Feb 14 16:00:51 GNUtoo: correct Feb 14 16:00:54 no contacts Feb 14 16:01:10 contact view segfaults directly after contact_view_show Feb 14 16:01:23 what did you change? Feb 14 16:01:28 actually, talk to me about it tomorrow Feb 14 16:01:33 I have a test I need to study to :P Feb 14 16:01:34 and backtrace gives me an endless loop in abort() Feb 14 16:01:36 ok Feb 14 16:01:38 lindi-: for handset earpiece<->GSM it actually *might* be possible. Anyway I have to check closely Feb 14 16:02:02 lindi-: for other setups it's quite obviously impossible Feb 14 16:02:18 mrmoku, sucks Feb 14 16:02:38 mrmoku: sorry for the mdbus2 rant Feb 14 16:03:20 DocScrutinizer: it's ok :) Feb 14 16:03:20 mrmoku: I got erroneous input ;-) so my reply wasn't appropriate as well Feb 14 16:05:35 mrmoku, though i wonder why libframeworkd-glib is binary incompatible, well, anyhow, sucksors :P Feb 14 16:06:54 mrmoku: how do you like the readline completion? :) Feb 14 16:07:13 mickeyl: don't understand? Feb 14 16:07:57 What apps are in the need of writing? Feb 14 16:07:58 mrmoku: mdbus2 tab completion Feb 14 16:07:59 mickeyl: for mdbus2? Feb 14 16:08:03 ahh :) Feb 14 16:08:26 What are the advantages of mdbus2 over qdbus? :) Feb 14 16:08:52 qdbus behaves very strange Feb 14 16:08:54 interactive mode Feb 14 16:09:05 it does't show everything avaible Feb 14 16:09:14 mickeyl: ohh, did not know about that :) Feb 14 16:09:15 <[Rui]> Weiss: sorry for the delay. Feb 14 16:09:23 mickeyl, does it also "eval" python like syntax (as parameters)? Feb 14 16:09:23 if not Feb 14 16:09:24 mrmoku: heh, that's like... the best feature Feb 14 16:09:31 <[Rui]> Weiss: I tried to simulate unlock and picking up the call, and it never worked Feb 14 16:09:35 how do you pass dictionaries/etc to it? Feb 14 16:09:40 TAsn: not at all yet Feb 14 16:09:41 mickeyl: you noticed our suggestions of yesterday, for mdbus2? Feb 14 16:09:43 <[Rui]> Weiss: I don't know if it was my bad or the screen was dead. Feb 14 16:09:53 mickeyl, I c, thanks :P Feb 14 16:09:56 mickeyl: ohhh very nice :D Feb 14 16:09:58 TAsn: patches welcome Feb 14 16:10:10 mickeyl, I don't do vala :P Feb 14 16:10:20 JaMa|GoNe: in which recipe do you setup xinput_calibrator_once.sh in Xsession.d? Can't find it in OE Feb 14 16:10:21 DocScrutinizer: i read some of the backlog, but i don't think i will spend time doing some compat things Feb 14 16:10:29 patches appreciated, of course Feb 14 16:11:05 mickeyl, anyhow, I think I better spend time on opimd, before I spend on mdbus2 :P Feb 14 16:11:07 mickeyl: if we keep mdbus(1), that's fair enough then Feb 14 16:12:02 ynezz: xserver-kdrive-commo or stg like that Feb 14 16:12:04 ynezz: xserver-kdrive-common Feb 14 16:12:10 :) Feb 14 16:12:11 DocScrutinizer: for sure, mdbus(1) will be around for quite a while. implementing the parser for all the complex parameter signatures will not happen soon in mdbus2 Feb 14 16:12:28 python certainly has an advantage w/ the eval Feb 14 16:12:35 JaMa|GoNe, Heinervdm: it's in shr-unstable branch I was looking into oe.dev.org Feb 14 16:12:43 mickeyl: and it runs on maemo5 :-D Feb 14 16:13:04 ynezz: should be the same Feb 14 16:13:20 whic I guess doesn't apply to the vala version Feb 14 16:13:29 ootb Feb 14 16:13:45 ;-) Feb 14 16:14:04 mdbus2 runs fine on maemo Feb 14 16:14:07 there are even packages Feb 14 16:14:08 :D Feb 14 16:14:14 duh! Feb 14 16:14:16 hehe Feb 14 16:14:19 ynezz: xinput-calibrator replied to my email with that feature request.. Feb 14 16:14:23 DocScrutinizer: if you run xlock on your n900, can you still call the emergency number? (tried to figure this out with a few friends during last "free thursday" event but xauth was missing so we could not just use x11 forwarding to run xlock) Feb 14 16:14:37 that is why I have not removed it yet Feb 14 16:14:39 DocScrutinizer: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HrwWebsite/~3/rRjKjWtve4k/ Feb 14 16:20:44 incredible, how info isn't propagating. I used mdbus(1) 4 weeks ago on maemo. And I suggested just yesterday to some guy in #maemo to use mdbus as I wasn't aware of mdbus2 in extras-devel Feb 14 16:21:57 thanks, works :) Feb 14 16:22:08 mrmoku, thanks, works :) Feb 14 16:23:20 TAsn: good... go studying then :P Feb 14 16:23:37 should Feb 14 16:23:37 :) Feb 14 16:26:12 Heinervdm: morning. i have put mkbootimg online. it installs the COPYING into datadir, we now just need to package it Feb 14 16:26:18 i.e. write a bb for it Feb 14 16:26:28 morning? Feb 14 16:26:39 mickeyl: that should be easy, just inherit autotools Feb 14 16:26:50 yep Feb 14 16:27:07 we only need a native recipe for it, don't we? Feb 14 16:27:09 yep Feb 14 16:27:22 should do for now Feb 14 16:28:34 http://failblog.org/2010/02/12/twitter-fail/ humanity will die! Feb 14 16:30:14 leviathan, look at System.map Feb 14 16:30:22 grep -i pmem System.map Feb 14 16:30:28 Heinervdm, "There is a new release candidate for evopedia in github. It would be Feb 14 16:30:28 nice if you tried to create a package: Feb 14 16:30:28 http://github.com/crei/evopedia/tree/v0.3.0rc3" Feb 14 16:31:09 where are the results of the eMail poll? Feb 14 16:34:18 GNUtoo: Heinervdm: is the source of fastboot available as well? Feb 14 16:34:35 mickeyl: will have a look Feb 14 16:34:42 TAsn: s/should/will do/ Feb 14 16:34:54 mickeyl, yes Feb 14 16:34:59 I'll do you a favour Feb 14 16:35:09 fastboot,adb,mkbootimg etc... Feb 14 16:35:10 please don't Feb 14 16:35:11 :P Feb 14 16:35:14 adb isn't needed Feb 14 16:35:56 it'd be good if we could add fastboot during the image creation as well Feb 14 16:35:57 that way Feb 14 16:36:04 people don't need to download additional stuff Feb 14 16:36:05 /dopomc Feb 14 16:36:32 mickeyl: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/bootable/bootloader/legacy.git;a=tree Feb 14 16:36:46 i think thats it Feb 14 16:37:46 what would people here prefer to visualize an active GPRS/UMTS connection in the idle screen? Feb 14 16:38:04 mrmoku: a big G Feb 14 16:38:05 the usual thing is to underly the signal bar with some colored rect Feb 14 16:38:20 the name of the connexion ? Feb 14 16:38:43 misc: you mean the apn? Feb 14 16:38:51 don't know if that makes sense Feb 14 16:39:09 Heinervdm: and how to differentiate between GPRS and UMTS? Feb 14 16:39:17 G Feb 14 16:39:18 3G Feb 14 16:39:23 or wifi symbol Feb 14 16:39:30 or usb cable Feb 14 16:39:46 (symbol) Feb 14 16:39:54 wifi is already there... usb missing Feb 14 16:39:56 all at the same time :> Feb 14 16:40:10 hrhrrhrr Feb 14 16:40:15 ok G and 3G then Feb 14 16:40:18 yep Feb 14 16:40:23 thanks Feb 14 16:40:23 webos has G and 3G too ;) Feb 14 16:40:25 that's common on other phones as well Feb 14 16:40:34 why 3G, freerunner don't have 3G Feb 14 16:40:44 but g1 has Feb 14 16:40:48 and palm pre Feb 14 16:40:51 SHR is not limited to FR Feb 14 16:41:01 eventually we might have powerful hardware Feb 14 16:41:03 2G, 2.5, 3G, 3.5 on maemo Feb 14 16:41:19 hmm... interesting Feb 14 16:41:36 you should add E Feb 14 16:41:41 i think G, E, 3G is enough Feb 14 16:41:44 (imo) Feb 14 16:41:46 other connectivity has dedicated own symbol(-area) Feb 14 16:42:13 and H Feb 14 16:42:25 yeeeap Feb 14 16:42:26 mickeyl: what about HSDPA and HSUPA ? Feb 14 16:42:40 3.5? Feb 14 16:43:33 Serdar: I assume H like HSCSD? Feb 14 16:43:38 DocScrutinizer: 3.5 for all three possibilities? Feb 14 16:43:49 I will wait till we arrive 9.81G Feb 14 16:44:02 yup. the come together anyway usually Feb 14 16:44:14 mrmoku: H Feb 14 16:44:26 G, E, 3G, H Feb 14 16:44:31 *nod* Feb 14 16:44:34 mickeyl: [2010-02-14 17:43:32] Serdar: I assume H like HSCSD? Feb 14 16:44:48 ok Feb 14 16:44:57 quite unintuitive Feb 14 16:44:59 H=HSPA Feb 14 16:45:09 lets see how we can monitor that Feb 14 16:45:13 DocScrutinizer: why? Feb 14 16:45:21 i have no idea how to get that info Feb 14 16:45:24 mickeyl: the API offers that :) Feb 14 16:45:27 heh Feb 14 16:45:29 which one? Feb 14 16:45:35 (don't say fso) Feb 14 16:45:39 sure Feb 14 16:45:39 even me needs a lookup table paper after my 2md beer :-S Feb 14 16:45:47 PDP.GetNetworkStatus Feb 14 16:46:02 hmm Feb 14 16:46:02 and act is obligatory even Feb 14 16:46:07 btw. there is compact GSM too Feb 14 16:46:11 no idea what that is :P Feb 14 16:46:13 forget about that Feb 14 16:46:16 not in use Feb 14 16:46:18 what's rong with 2, 25, 3, 35 Feb 14 16:46:20 ? Feb 14 16:46:42 nice collation sequence Feb 14 16:46:52 easily understandable Feb 14 16:46:56 i prefer characters Feb 14 16:47:06 never seen 2.5 or 3.5 on any phone Feb 14 16:47:15 Kyrrilic preferred then XP Feb 14 16:48:18 aaaah the "we only use NIH" then? Don't bother, that's how maemo does it (no it'll probably never gets into OM) Feb 14 16:49:42 nobody needs a manjual to understand 2 < 2.5 < 3 < 3.5 Feb 14 16:50:02 but WTF is "H" Feb 14 16:50:11 "G"??? Feb 14 16:50:19 E Feb 14 16:50:54 what's if it shows "OMG" ? ;-> Feb 14 16:55:36 btw: CSD=1, HSCSD=1.5 .. I'd guess Feb 14 17:01:45 side notice. Arabic digits usually need very few localization Feb 14 17:02:51 that would be a good argument :P Feb 14 17:03:05 fiddlesticks Feb 14 17:03:13 I could make it configurable too ;) Feb 14 17:03:13 E,G,3G,U is international Feb 14 17:03:17 err, H Feb 14 17:03:27 LOl Feb 14 17:03:28 see? Feb 14 17:03:48 we could make a mode for you, but you won't be using SHR anyways Feb 14 17:04:08 exactly Feb 14 17:04:29 I just take pride in knowing I'm right ;-P Feb 14 17:06:30 btw I gues you messed up the natural sort order intentionally? ""E,G,3G..." ? Feb 14 17:07:33 that was sorted in order of occurance on my usual train trips Feb 14 17:07:45 E is most common there Feb 14 17:08:33 E like "ERROR" :-P Feb 14 17:09:59 k. Made my point. No mission critical thing at all... :-))) Feb 14 17:12:52 ok, fastboot is in git clone git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/system/core.git Feb 14 17:13:09 should be even more simple to convert to autotools than mkbootimg Feb 14 17:14:20 mickeyl, actual_brightness works now but still no echo somenum > brightness Feb 14 17:14:44 I don't know what leviathan did but it's a mix between led and backlight Feb 14 17:14:47 hmm Feb 14 17:14:58 functions prototipes were still led's ones Feb 14 17:15:00 try adding max_brightness, for backlights it's mandatory Feb 14 17:15:03 the ones for the operations Feb 14 17:15:08 ok Feb 14 17:15:11 it's 0 Feb 14 17:15:23 yep, that could be the reason why echo doesn't work Feb 14 17:15:46 btw. is there a hard reset on the dream? Feb 14 17:15:54 or do i need to do the battery dance when the kernel is stuck? Feb 14 17:16:05 do we have sysrq compiled in? Feb 14 17:17:00 sysrq via ts-kbd? Feb 14 17:17:06 guess won't work Feb 14 17:17:22 pespin: i've sent an updated recipe Feb 14 17:17:29 i did that for the zaurus kernels once Feb 14 17:17:33 guess i can do it again for the dream Feb 14 17:17:33 aaah dream Feb 14 17:17:55 and the pre Feb 14 17:18:02 Heinervdm, ok thnx :) Feb 14 17:24:14 mickeyl, no hard reset but if it reboots press the camera button Feb 14 17:24:25 and keep pressing it until it goes to bootloader Feb 14 17:24:31 so it doesn't reboot on android Feb 14 17:25:15 btw mickeyl thanks a lot for backlight indications...I hope it'll work this time Feb 14 17:25:21 crossing fingers Feb 14 17:25:44 if that works, then i can update my kernel Feb 14 17:27:00 btw., now that we have the source, we should make the -ramdisk parameter optional Feb 14 17:27:20 mickeyl, thanks a lot!!!! it works Feb 14 17:27:24