**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 22 03:00:02 2010 Mar 22 08:04:31 heyho Mar 22 09:03:31 buildhost status: 09:57:28 < lukhas> IIRC, it should be changed today Mar 22 09:04:53 phew, finally. Mar 22 09:09:09 since shr build server is still dead, do you have any idea on where to get some recent lite testing image? Mar 22 09:09:37 Zoup, shr build server Mar 22 09:09:38 :P Mar 22 09:09:45 No other solution I can think of. Mar 22 09:09:50 anyhow, ciao, I'm off. Mar 22 09:10:18 its more than 24 hours of downtime, sounds strange to me Mar 22 09:10:40 Zoup: I have an image from March 08 floating around Mar 22 09:10:52 Zoup: Not that recent though Mar 22 09:11:06 richy: oh, is it anywhere on web that i can download? Mar 22 09:11:34 Zoup: wait a few minuts, please Mar 22 09:11:40 richy: big fat thanks Mar 22 09:17:21 *sigh*, really noone who can sponsor a new build server? Mar 22 09:17:45 I propose to move git.shr-project.org to something else like gitorious.org github.com or whatnot. Mar 22 09:18:14 It's a pity that building SHR fails, just because it can't reach our own freaking git repositories. Mar 22 09:18:29 plus, we don't want to be system admins for git installations, do we? Mar 22 09:19:40 spaetz: i am maintainer of projects.openmoko.org, how much storage do build server needs? Mar 22 09:20:18 spaetz: I think I could provide an mirror, not an build-server though Mar 22 09:20:43 spaetz: what about asking mickey if you can host the shr-source on git.freesmartphone.org? Mar 22 09:20:46 Zoup: 6min, upload is really slow here Mar 22 09:20:59 richy: thank you very much friend Mar 22 09:21:17 richy,spaetz : i guess mirror is good enough Mar 22 09:21:50 Zoup, well depends on what we need to store there, I am unsure about the space requirements (can't check as the server is down :-) ) Mar 22 09:22:10 spaetz: my est is well, 5GB max? Mar 22 09:22:50 morphis: I don't care where the the git is, it just needs to be reliable and not on some vhost of some donated hardware without uptime guarantee :) Mar 22 09:23:17 its odd, do they need 24 hours to replace some ram? Mar 22 09:23:27 Zoup: depends on what needs storing. The git repos would fit there easily. Also mirroring images should be fine. However as a build server it needs quite a lot of storage Mar 22 09:28:17 Zoup: http://gameslab-berlin.relatedworks.com/lite_Image_march08.tar.bz2 Mar 22 09:29:07 richy: thanks pal Mar 22 09:29:17 Zoup: you're welcome Mar 22 09:29:22 Zoup: I guess, it's not their highest priority server.... Mar 22 09:30:03 spaetz: 24 hours and still not working, doesn't maching lowest priority standard as well :)) Mar 22 09:30:38 * spaetz nods. Well, it's a donation from beartech, so we must be grteful for whatever we get (and I am). Mar 22 09:31:15 I am just saying we should move services of to other boxes if there are reliable free services. It's not that difficult to get good git hosting somewhere else nowadays... Mar 22 09:31:52 and with AUTOREF turned on, I cannot even build a local SHR image right now, as that checks git and fails... Mar 22 09:34:43 spaetz: yep, good idea Mar 22 09:39:11 richy: got the image, thanks :) Mar 22 09:43:00 spaetz: i think there was an option to disable autorev checks and use whatever is already here. Mar 22 09:47:28 spaetz: why is the shr-buildhos+git down? Mar 22 09:47:28 and when will it be fixed?? Mar 22 09:47:45 leviathan: ram failure Mar 22 09:47:48 leviathan: hopefully today Mar 22 09:49:37 ok Mar 22 09:51:57 leviathan, do you have a new mainboard? Mar 22 09:53:33 uhm Mar 22 09:53:33 hai Mar 22 09:53:37 playyaWorking: nope Mar 22 09:53:41 still on my TODO Mar 22 09:53:43 >_< Mar 22 09:59:36 leviathan: ram failure Mar 22 09:59:43 leviathan: hopefully today :-) Mar 22 09:59:51 okee Mar 22 09:59:51 I don't know any specifics though. Mar 22 10:00:06 It's all on that vhost donated by bearstech. Mar 22 10:00:13 ohh Mar 22 10:00:13 ok Mar 22 10:29:57 perhaps I should simply setup a xen host and fuck the cpu resource issue Mar 22 10:30:05 I'm the admin anyway >_< Mar 22 10:30:24 so I could make build.o2s.ch Mar 22 10:30:55 GNUtoo: what do you think? Mar 22 10:31:03 should I make an o2s.buildhos? Mar 22 10:31:09 *buildhost Mar 22 10:34:26 leviathan, don't know...I can also build but only if git is up Mar 22 10:34:34 yes Mar 22 10:34:38 and its down atm Mar 22 10:34:39 -.- Mar 22 10:40:42 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r82529b651f92 10/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Mar 22 10:40:42 freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug: add debug status signal Mar 22 10:40:42 freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.GSM.Monitor: fix type for GetNeighbourCellInfo Mar 22 10:40:42 freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM: rename GetHomeZones and add explicit struct Mar 22 10:40:59 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rd9f0b1e637b8 10/src/freesmartphone-gsm.vala: regen Mar 22 10:41:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r6bde1ac7b5f0 10/fsogsmd/src/ (lib/atparser.vala plugins/modem_qualcomm_htc/htcparser.vala): fsogsmd: silence format violation output in atparser and htcparser Mar 22 10:41:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7effea50cf9b 10/fsogsmd/ (src/lib/fsogsm3rdparty.vapi vapi/ppp.vapi): fsogsmd: vapi: fix deprecated constructs Mar 22 10:41:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra3fff687cd6e 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/dbus_service/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: dbus_service: remove deprecated method Mar 22 10:41:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r022824afd54a 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_ti_calypso/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: ti_calypso: init every channel w/ A0Q0V1 Mar 22 10:41:36 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r65a94cc4b2c4 10/libgsm0710mux/gsm0710mux/ (channel.vala manager.vala multiplexer.vala): libgsm0710mux: remove vala warnings Mar 22 10:41:38 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r28c2e7aeaece 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/basetransport.vala: libfsotransport: drain before freezing a transport Mar 22 10:41:39 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r67b96831cdf3 10/libgsm0710mux/gsm0710mux/channel.vala: libgsm0710mux: revert last commit; Idle.add is not a good idea when using a shared buffer Mar 22 10:41:45 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r9e5d0a3191fb 10/libgsm0710mux/gsm0710mux/ (manager.vala multiplexer.vala): (log message trimmed) Mar 22 10:41:45 freesmartphone.org: libgsm0710mux: introduce send_pause_threshold configuration value for unstable modems Mar 22 10:41:45 freesmartphone.org: This configuration value allows to specify a minimum pause time interval Mar 22 10:41:45 freesmartphone.org: that has to be guaranteed when sending consecutive commands. Some modems tend to Mar 22 10:41:46 freesmartphone.org: hang up, if you send commands too fast. Yes, this is what the channel flow control Mar 22 10:41:46 freesmartphone.org: out-of-band data should be used, but alas, it seems we can't rely on that for all Mar 22 10:41:47 freesmartphone.org: modems. So we play safe. Note that this value is initially set to 0; change it like: Mar 22 10:41:47 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra41ec92f1420 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/dbus_service/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: add org.freesmartphone.GSM.HZ Mar 22 10:42:00 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2d9b5dde1bcd 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/transport.vala: libfsotransport: substitute glib warnings w/ FSO warnings Mar 22 10:42:00 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r9b4cddbc0224 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (muxtransport.vala sms.vala): fsogsmd: debug output-- Mar 22 10:42:00 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfc7ad820fdbf 10/fsogsmd/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: debug output -- Mar 22 10:42:11 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r0e2b2d473b01 10/zhone2/src/main.vala: zhone2: don't activate phone page until we're registered Mar 22 11:52:30 morning Mar 22 13:14:00 Ainulindale: ping Mar 22 13:34:21 Any idea why tangogps wont download maps from osm? Ive been trying to search the tickets but failed to find something related to this issue. Mar 22 13:35:54 whirl: have you tried looking at tangogps's stdout/stderr output? Mar 22 13:38:04 of course not, dont really even know how to do that ;) Mar 22 13:50:01 whirl: just looking at the output should be enough Mar 22 14:17:07 <\marco> hi to all :) Mar 22 14:32:01 PaulFertser: TILE DL PROBLEM: The requested URL returned error: 404 Mar 22 14:32:02 \marco, have you tested the illume2 widgets? :P Mar 22 14:32:25 and then it gives the url of the tile Mar 22 14:34:49 ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB Mar 22 14:34:50 hmm... #openmoko-cdevel-bb is The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash bulletin board. 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Mar 22 15:20:22 hi all Mar 22 16:09:00 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf966f6d32068 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/ (basetransport.vala commandqueue.vala): libfsotransport: improve HUP behaviour Mar 22 16:09:02 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r75c1b25d70ce 10/fsogsmd/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: improve hangup behaviour; on hangup, try to seamlessly reconnect Mar 22 16:09:04 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r0ce8389f379b 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_ti_calypso/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: ti_calypso: remove unused variables Mar 22 16:09:31 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r76b6b93a7963 10/zhone2/src/ (8 files): zhone2: show message on double click Mar 22 16:13:09 DocScrutinizer: hi, I failed to flash yesterday Mar 22 16:17:58 PaulFertser tried hard to help me but didn't work Mar 22 16:36:29 Orias_Korva: yes, and i'm still not at home, so can't try yet Mar 22 16:40:54 PaulFertser: no problem, I was just giving credit Mar 22 17:41:19 JaMa, an efl bump (when buildhost is up) might be in order, they fixed a bug in the bluetooth module :P Mar 22 17:42:59 TAsn: OK Mar 22 17:43:13 hopefully that is. Mar 22 17:43:18 thanks. Mar 22 17:50:39 http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/22/1635205/Open-Source-Is-Not-a-Democracy?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 Mar 22 17:51:07 I disagree with his decision of going against the community, but open source is NOT about democracy Mar 22 17:51:29 And he is right about that. Mar 22 18:00:38 TAsn: are you happy ubuntu exists? Mar 22 18:01:03 I'm not sad about it :P Mar 22 18:01:11 I think it's a nice distro Mar 22 18:02:24 very noob friendly Mar 22 18:02:32 ubuntu moved a lot of my friends to linu Mar 22 18:02:32 x Mar 22 18:02:51 what fedora/mandriva/opensuse/whatever couldn't do before. Mar 22 18:04:13 PaulFertser, Though my point in pasting this link here, was against the dude that posted the slashdot post with such a poor topic name selection. Mar 22 18:04:40 TAsn: who cares about slashdot trolls ;) Mar 22 18:05:05 This is just a stupid and provocative topic. Mar 22 18:05:14 PaulFertser, everyone Mar 22 18:05:24 Trolls set public opinion Mar 22 18:05:26 :) Mar 22 18:09:42 TAsn: that's no news ubuntu makes questionable decisions, one more, one less, why care? They already forked Debian and many other soft along the way, messing with sane practices, adding stupid misfeatures. Why care? Mar 22 18:11:23 TAsn: it's link, but separate package would solve that if you really want vimdiff (to install that link) you would get diffutils as RDEPENDS.. but pushed with RSUGGESTS for now Mar 22 18:12:36 mmm palm company in really bad state Mar 22 18:12:42 soon to be acquired by someone else Mar 22 18:12:53 JaMa, as said, it's not perfect as you can enter diff mode without vimdiff installed. Mar 22 18:15:34 PaulFertser, (questionable decisions) I know. (messing with sane practices) I know they did wacky stuff in the past. Mar 22 18:15:55 PaulFertser, do you have another noob friendly distro to suggest? Mar 22 18:15:56 TAsn: i think i'll remember "failsafe x server" release target for life Mar 22 18:16:18 TAsn: noob-friendly != friendly to a one unwilling to learn Mar 22 18:16:41 TAsn: i'm not sure distros of the second class are making more good than bad. Mar 22 18:17:00 PaulFertser, but they have a big market Mar 22 18:17:07 Yeah, I'm not looking for noob-friendly Mar 22 18:17:17 I'm looking for unwilling to learn friendly Mar 22 18:17:26 And this is very important for mainstream Mar 22 18:17:35 my mother hates computers but used ubuntu for a while Mar 22 18:17:44 because this was easy Mar 22 18:20:37 Then let them go with windows i'd say Mar 22 18:20:41 They deserved the pain Mar 22 18:20:52 :/ Mar 22 18:20:58 I disagree Mar 22 18:21:29 although it was bill gates who initiated reachable computing (or whatever the correct translation might be) Mar 22 18:21:46 I think everyone deserve it. Mar 22 18:22:04 And my mother should feel fine with using a proper computer Mar 22 18:22:10 not a windows based one. Mar 22 18:25:29 hi - could it be that buildhost is down? Mar 22 18:25:39 yes. Mar 22 18:25:53 TAsn: using != configuring Mar 22 18:26:05 PaulFertser, oh, that's for sure. Mar 22 18:26:09 ok i wondered whether my internet connection would be unstable Mar 22 18:26:17 I didn't understand myself correctly Mar 22 18:26:17 TAsn: and ubuntu's focus on easy configuring, not using. Mar 22 18:26:28 Using is already easy enough for almost all common tasks. Mar 22 18:26:31 s/understand/explain/ Mar 22 18:26:32 TAsn meant: I didn't explain myself correctly Mar 22 18:26:32 With any distro. Mar 22 18:26:37 I think I proved I'm tired. :P Mar 22 18:26:38 is it possible to obtain a working shr testing or unstable image at the moment? i need to prepare the moko for travelling Mar 22 18:26:56 PaulFertser, using = also simple configuration Mar 22 18:27:10 i.e sharing a folder in network Mar 22 18:27:29 installing new applications Mar 22 18:27:39 TAsn: i can't agree, even the slightest. If a man doesn't want to read a manual, he shouldn't try to configure anything. Mar 22 18:27:58 PaulFertser, I don't consider sharing a folder as configuration Mar 22 18:28:02 but rather as a task Mar 22 18:28:06 sharing a file in network Mar 22 18:28:24 TAsn: do you know when the repository server will be up? I want to update my saturday's instalation; my wifi don't work... Mar 22 18:28:42 gnustavo, to tell you the truth, the one to ask is JaMa :P Mar 22 18:28:44 TAsn: hm, for the record i failed to share "a folder" with samba recently, and sshfs fuse fs didn't work too, i'm still not sure why, i used netcat to transfer the damn dvd image. Mar 22 18:28:56 gnustavo, but iirc it'll be up in an hour (from jama's mail) Mar 22 18:29:14 PaulFertser, :P Mar 22 18:29:15 TAsn: and also configuring samba to be a proper AD domain member can't be easy, it's an inherently difficult task. Mar 22 18:29:16 I love netcat Mar 22 18:29:23 PaulFertser, I agree. Mar 22 18:29:27 but that's because AD is evil Mar 22 18:29:44 TAsn: it's you who mentioned samba in the first place. Mar 22 18:30:03 PaulFertser, I know, but I wasn't talking about AD Mar 22 18:30:08 TAsn: i'm not sure ubuntu provides a way to configure more sane NFS solution. Mar 22 18:30:23 TAsn: thankyou, i'll be waiting :) Mar 22 18:30:30 PaulFertser, and IIRC you can choose "windows file sharing" and nfs Mar 22 18:30:37 PaulFertser, I'm not an ubuntu user myself to be frank. Mar 22 18:30:45 TAsn: heh, they do not even know the protocol name ;) Mar 22 18:30:55 :) Mar 22 18:34:57 TAsn: in fact it's windows ACL that are really damn fucking hard. I spent a whole sunday understanding those, reading many msdn articles and some other sources. Talking about user-friendliness, heh. Mar 22 18:36:17 yeah. Mar 22 18:36:27 I often find it harder to do stuff in windows comparing to linux. Mar 22 18:36:33 Specifically installation, but not only. Mar 22 18:36:48 DocScrutinizer: now I have a barely working UI for working interactively with UBX packets: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/gps/ui1.png Mar 22 18:37:20 DocScrutinizer: all the data is automatically extracted from that ubx.h from people.openmoko.org :) Mar 22 18:37:24 TAsn: Already tried to print the error message of a win32 function like CreateFile in C? Mar 22 18:37:52 lindi-: that's freakin awesome Mar 22 18:38:09 Defiant, lucky for me, I haven't done *any* work on windows for the past couple of years. Mar 22 18:38:17 well any programming work to be exact :P Mar 22 18:38:27 lindi-: let me say this again: you're simply amazing, dude Mar 22 18:39:28 spaetz: why is git.shr-project.org still down? Mar 22 18:39:48 ubuntu -> http://xkcd.com/424/ Mar 22 18:40:10 leviathan, because bearstech still did not replace the ram... afaik Mar 22 18:40:51 DocScrutinizer: lots of things still need to be done. 1) ubx.h does not mention scaling factors 2) parser does not handle repeating blocks 3) UI does not handle bit fields etc. Mar 22 18:41:22 Deubeuliou said it would happen tonight. I don't know any specifics so, I'm not involved beyound having an account on that server. Mar 22 18:46:19 DocScrutinizer, aye. :P Mar 22 18:46:50 TAsn: efl bumped on your request :) Mar 22 18:46:57 JaMa, really? buildhost is up? :P Mar 22 18:46:58 thanks. Mar 22 18:47:11 or just in OE? Mar 22 18:47:14 anyhow, thanks. Mar 22 18:47:27 hm... who's currently most active concerning the htc dream? Mar 22 18:47:41 I have some questions to ask as I'm thinking about getting one for myself. Mar 22 18:47:56 spaetz: ok Mar 22 18:47:58 thx anyway Mar 22 18:48:11 this night is everything I wanted to know ^^ Mar 22 18:48:17 good Mar 22 18:48:25 then I'll look tomorrow :) Mar 22 18:50:17 TAsn: yeah, build&tested here Mar 22 18:50:22 and pushed to OE Mar 22 18:50:26 cool Mar 22 18:50:28 thanks. Mar 22 18:53:03 anyhow, if you got htc dream/palm pre: drop me a message please :P Mar 22 19:07:43 ahh crap, I removed new alsa-states and now I cannot redownload them with switch-new-kernel :/ Mar 22 19:09:22 muhaha! :P Mar 22 19:09:42 JaMa, alsa-states are fso types states, right/ Mar 22 19:09:43 ? Mar 22 19:11:09 TAsn: ? Mar 22 19:11:27 hello Mar 22 19:11:34 but I used old new states :) from my previous install Mar 22 19:11:45 JaMa, :P Mar 22 19:11:47 daniele_athome, hey. Mar 22 19:11:47 a really long server downtime as i see :) Mar 22 19:11:54 hi TAsn Mar 22 19:12:01 hi Mar 22 19:12:27 JaMa, are the states switch-for-kernel is using fso states or alsa states? i.e are they in the fso format or the alsa format? Mar 22 19:12:31 hi JaMa Mar 22 19:13:16 TAsn: it's switching /etc/freesmartphone/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-default now Mar 22 19:13:37 exactly what I was asking :P Mar 22 19:13:39 cool. Mar 22 19:15:39 TAsn: are you using 2.6.32 too now? or that usb0 conn wasn't resolved for you? Mar 22 19:15:52 has'n resolved Mar 22 19:15:55 :/ Mar 22 19:15:56 tried again Mar 22 19:16:02 also sound doesn't work :| Mar 22 19:16:30 TAsn: without replacing those alsa-states, fsodeviced doesn't even start Mar 22 19:16:53 well fsodeviced does start here Mar 22 19:16:53 fails like: fsodeviced: control.c:1616: snd_ctl_elem_list_get_id: Assertion `idx < obj->used' failed. Mar 22 19:17:06 JaMa, this sucks btw, it shouldn't be critical Mar 22 19:17:11 for phoneuid it's not critical Mar 22 19:17:31 yeah, but phoneuid needs to be updated for 2.6.32 too :/ Mar 22 19:17:45 would be nice to use same states as fsodeviced Mar 22 19:18:19 CRITICAL: ALSA: No control named 'Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Sw' found - Sound state: 2 type: 1 Mar 22 19:18:55 JaMa, no biggie, a simple config option. Mar 22 19:19:02 anyhow, ideally Mar 22 19:19:21 odeviced will have a way to either control volume Mar 22 19:19:25 or get volume key. Mar 22 19:19:48 TAsn: yeah, but it's at least 3rd thing to keep in sync for default kernel switch :/ Mar 22 19:20:14 mickey|vacation, btw, current scenario support is not perfect, we'd like to be able to also give odeviced AT commands to run ( DocScrutinizer suggested some values need to be tweaked for gsmspeaker for instance) Mar 22 19:20:20 it seems agps gui still uses /sys/bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-pm-gps/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron instead of /sys/bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-pm-gps/neo1973-pm-gps.0/power_on Mar 22 19:20:27 JaMa, but it's a "minor" issue. Mar 22 19:21:08 Derick: you mean openmoko-agpsui? Mar 22 19:21:21 yes Mar 22 19:21:31 Derick: if so, then it wasn't updated for long, feel free to send patch :) Mar 22 19:21:43 JaMa: I would if I knew how to :) Mar 22 19:21:50 (educate me if you wish :) ) Mar 22 19:22:32 in sending patch or creating one for this issue? :) Mar 22 19:22:45 in sending them (and finding the source code) Mar 22 19:23:04 Derick, finding source: google Mar 22 19:23:13 finding in the source: grep Mar 22 19:23:17 making a patch Mar 22 19:23:21 diff/svndiff/git diff Mar 22 19:23:24 sending the patch Mar 22 19:23:30 shr-devel@lists.shr-project.org Mar 22 19:23:38 oops Mar 22 19:23:42 meant: original author Mar 22 19:23:44 :P Mar 22 19:24:14 now still, gypsy doesn't seem to be doing anything :/ Mar 22 19:24:19 Chia-I Wu Mar 22 19:25:38 guys efl python bindings is totally broken Mar 22 19:25:47 the same old shr-settings error Mar 22 19:25:54 daniele_athome,? Mar 22 19:27:28 TAsn: ValueError: evas.c_evas.Canvas has the wrong size, try recompiling Mar 22 19:27:51 hmm, any idea whty mdbus2 -s -l would only show signals and not method calls? Mar 22 19:27:52 for any python program that uses efl Mar 22 19:27:53 oh, I don't remember than :P Mar 22 19:28:03 Derick, because this is what -l does Mar 22 19:28:08 tried also with mokonnect Mar 22 19:28:10 and a few ones Mar 22 19:28:21 Derick, listening to signals, not spying on the system :P Mar 22 19:28:31 TAsn: dbus-monitor on my linux machine does show it for the system bus, but not on the moko Mar 22 19:29:14 TAsn: in any case, how I can find out what's called then? Mar 22 19:29:42 no idea. Mar 22 19:29:50 dbus-monitor sounds like the way to go. Mar 22 19:30:00 if it would work :) Mar 22 19:30:43 It's more important to do things correctly, than to make things work. Mar 22 19:30:57 so use dbus-monitor :P Mar 22 19:31:00 (j/k, no idea) Mar 22 19:32:00 JaMa: ping Mar 22 19:35:48 pong Mar 22 19:37:56 Good day all , is there any way to know .bin file volume while getting map from http://maps.navit-project.org/download/ ? Mar 22 19:40:04 alabd: you mean the size of prepared .bin file before downloading it? Mar 22 19:40:52 JaMa, yes Mar 22 19:41:58 alabd: ok, I don't know if there is a way with planet extractor, but if you check sizes of pregenerated images, then .bin are not that big Mar 22 19:42:29 alabd: ie 2.2GB for whole world/ france 300MB, Germany 490MB Mar 22 19:43:38 where do you check ? Mar 22 19:44:00 and better size estimation you can get from http://downloads.cloudmade.com/ if you find something like region you would like to download later from extractor Mar 22 19:44:48 where is written evel Mar 22 19:44:49 alabd: ie 2.2GB for whole world/ ? Mar 22 19:44:55 alabd: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMaps Mar 22 19:46:30 JaMa, http://downloads.cloudmade.com/ is this link maps the same as OSM ? Mar 22 19:49:23 are maps here http://downloads.cloudmade.com/ Mar 22 19:49:30 that wiki page says so, but few months back I had problem with town search with maps from cloudmade (because older osm2navit used there) Mar 22 19:50:21 JaMa, but it seems volume of images have much difference Mar 22 19:52:52 JaMa: do you have some backup shr-testing/unstable image which you could provide me? Mar 22 19:53:56 is it clear when host will be up ? JaMa ? Mar 22 19:56:49 bumbl: not with standard shr-u or not recent (shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100306-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz) Mar 22 19:56:55 JaMa, btw Mar 22 19:57:05 I'm committing vibration support for frameworkd Mar 22 19:57:08 bumbl: but buildhost is supposed to be up soon Mar 22 19:57:09 so please rebuild Mar 22 19:57:11 when you can Mar 22 19:57:37 TAsn: ok, send me rev if you have one Mar 22 19:57:44 sec Mar 22 19:58:21 JaMa, what happened to host ? ram ? you should by your self ? Mar 22 19:58:38 alabd: I don't understand Mar 22 19:58:53 JaMa, what happened to host ? Mar 22 19:59:06 faulty ram (last few weeks Mar 22 19:59:12 JaMa: when? today? - i need to prepare the moko for 8days London Mar 22 19:59:38 bumbl: the e-mail in shr-devel/shr-user says so Mar 22 19:59:49 bumbl: if everything goes on plan Mar 22 20:00:01 ok Mar 22 20:00:24 bumbl, humble have image shr-t Mar 22 20:00:42 wana download? Mar 22 20:00:54 freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07framework * rf751f2724eea 10/framework/subsystems/oeventsd/fso_actions.py: oeventsd: Fixed vibration to work with fsodeviced instead of odeviced Mar 22 20:00:57 JaMa, you mean you should byuy ram ? Mar 22 20:01:10 if it works and is somewhere recent yes please Mar 22 20:01:18 JaMa, f751f2724eea23d0ca050bdf2672f9011ae09517 Mar 22 20:01:19 :) Mar 22 20:02:15 alabd: it's not my server or even shr server, but we can use one of Xen host as courtesy of bearstech Mar 22 20:02:29 TAsn: thx Mar 22 20:02:39 JaMa, thank you. Mar 22 20:03:45 yw Mar 22 20:33:30 derrwhat makes you think that? Mar 22 20:33:42 Derick: ^^ Mar 22 20:33:48 hmm? Mar 22 20:34:07 it seems agps gui still uses /sys/bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-pm-gps/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron instead of /sy Mar 22 20:34:13 DocScrutinizer: strace says so Mar 22 20:34:53 hmm, you're sure it doesn't simply try both pathes? Mar 22 20:35:11 yeah,I think so,because if I echo 1 in power_on it suddenly starts doing something Mar 22 20:35:15 but I will chck Mar 22 20:35:16 check* Mar 22 20:35:58 time to use fso or libomhacks to abstract the path names? Mar 22 20:36:18 aaah, that's *not* fso Mar 22 20:36:28 then forget my comment Mar 22 20:36:40 DocScrutinizer: http://dr.pastebin.com/4jxiy3Ed (when pressing off/on in the UI) Mar 22 20:37:49 it's version 0.20 Mar 22 20:48:14 Derick, DocScrutinizer: I updated shr-u this weekend, maybe saturday, and don't have GPS in TangoGPS anymore Mar 22 20:48:21 says "no gpsd found" Mar 22 20:48:25 any hints what to check? Mar 22 20:48:45 md2k7: i have exactly the same problem Mar 22 20:48:52 and can't find it out :-/ Mar 22 20:48:57 yay Mar 22 20:49:16 would have booted the shr testing in flash, but then my maps are on sd card :P Mar 22 20:49:22 md2k7: I do remember that I had to install fso-gpsd again Mar 22 20:50:13 mhm Mar 22 20:50:28 build.shr-project.org died forever? or I can find some mirror somewhere? Mar 22 20:50:32 will need to wait for shr buildserver to be fixed, I guess Mar 22 20:50:59 forever? I hope people at bearstech are fixing it atm Mar 22 20:51:02 max_posedon: unfortunatelly not (yet) Mar 22 20:51:11 [21:03] it was said, that at 20:00 CET they will start to do maintanance Mar 22 20:57:48 ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB Mar 22 20:57:49 The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at #openmoko-cdevel-BB2. For help see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-03-22 14:44 UTC]: buildhost down (RAM borked), Bearstech says "should be fixed today 19:00 UTC" Mar 22 21:10:44 ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-help Mar 22 21:10:45 rumour has it, #openmoko-cdevel-bb-help is >>list old content (~#openmoko-cdevel-BB); ~forget #openmoko-cdevel-BB; c&p and edit old content, then set new (~#openmoko-cdevel-BB is ) Mar 22 21:16:19 TAsn: ping Mar 22 21:25:02 mrmoku, I propose to move git.shr... to github.com,, gitorious.org. git.freesmartphone.org or whereever Mar 22 21:26:02 it's a pain to not be able to locally build stuff, just because autorrev doesn't work.... Mar 22 22:18:45 Its up ;) Mar 22 22:33:04 * von_fritz slams a big bell to wake the sleeping devs Mar 22 22:39:16 mrmoku, pong. Mar 22 22:42:09 mrmoku, short-pong (I'm off soon if you won't reply) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 22 22:48:09 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 22 22:54:14 2010 Mar 22 22:57:39 spaetz, please build frameworkd in testing, fixed the vibration issue. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 22 23:25:21 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 22 23:44:15 2010 Mar 22 23:46:05 DocScrutinizer: PaulFertser: now I can read _and_ write UBX packets with the UI: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/gps/ui2.png (many things are still unimplemented though like floats) Mar 22 23:46:50 lindi-: you're incredible Mar 22 23:47:33 blah, just too much extra time :) Mar 22 23:47:48 too much extra time is what drives open source really :) Mar 22 23:49:11 DocScrutinizer: now the problem seems to be that ubx.h does not contain all ubx packets. CFG-RXM, CFG-FXN and CFG-NAV2 are missing at least (those are really important on freerunner) Mar 22 23:50:00 lindi-: you talked to shoragan? Mar 22 23:50:29 DocScrutinizer: not yet Mar 22 23:50:37 hmm, really should Mar 22 23:53:28 does not seem to be on IRC right now Mar 22 23:54:44 DocScrutinizer: what GPS specs do they(?) have? Mar 22 23:54:53 DocScrutinizer: are you talking about the frameworkd gps parsing? Mar 22 23:55:28 yup, basically. More about the asisted part Mar 22 23:55:34 DocScrutinizer: i read that Mar 22 23:55:54 DocScrutinizer: it does not contain units, scaling factors, comments Mar 22 23:56:20 DocScrutinizer: they probably just read the PDF and hand-wrote them to python struct.pack/unpack format Mar 22 23:56:44 I'd ask them Mar 22 23:57:27 so for example all they have about CFG-NAV2 is Mar 22 23:57:28 ("CFG-NAV2", 40) : [" which is useful but alone is not enough to put the device to pedestrian mode Mar 22 23:58:18 you need to have access to the PDF to actually understand what each field does (and which bits do what in bitfields) Mar 23 02:15:43 hmm Mar 23 02:16:05 what would be the reason for fso-gpds not seeing any data, while openmoko-agpsgui works just fine? Mar 23 02:16:42 hello, Mar 23 02:17:14 hi Mar 23 02:18:20 Derick, did you request the gps resource? Mar 23 02:18:28 Weiss, playyaWorking , playya_ : I am trying to understand the rotation problem with X and current distros. Is it a problem in xrandr? Any thoughts? If it is a xrandr problem I would like to try to help there. Mar 23 02:18:33 hello Derick Mar 23 02:18:47 playya_: it's set to "manual", "enabled" Mar 23 02:19:24 root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.GetResourcePolicy GPS Mar 23 02:19:26 looks good Mar 23 02:19:27 ( "enabled" ) Mar 23 02:20:24 playya_: what else can I check? Mar 23 02:28:03 /dev/ttySAC1 shows all the data too itseems Mar 23 02:40:49 hmm Mar 23 02:40:54 now it works... but why... Mar 23 02:41:06 i restarts frameworkd a few times Mar 23 02:41:09 restarted* **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 23 02:59:57 2010