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Mar 25 17:25:54 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r04b714fdfec7 10/fsogsmd/src/ (10 files in 5 dirs): fsogsmd: catch up with SMS API changes
Mar 25 17:25:55 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rf06f48f135cc 10/fsogsmd/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: catch up with specs
Mar 25 17:26:01 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r3d7c7776a71b 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM: add timestamp to SIMMessage struct
Mar 25 17:26:07 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r9794bc4866c1 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
Mar 25 17:26:07 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM & org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS: start revamp
Mar 25 17:26:07 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: This is the beginning of a set of larger API change with the aim
Mar 25 17:26:07 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: to simplify Short Message Service API. org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS
Mar 25 17:26:07 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: will now only refer to the most common operations w/ short messages
Mar 25 17:26:07 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: containing text. If you need full control over the SMS API
Mar 25 17:26:07 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: (i.e. for binary SMS or assembling fragments by hand), you
Mar 25 17:26:08 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r1b5061834a02 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM: remove RetrieveMessageBook(); RetrieveMessage() will do here
Mar 25 17:27:02 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rd628d85d6a31 10/src/freesmartphone-gsm.vala: regen
Mar 25 17:28:33 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * ra21a68cb98e8 10/zhone2/src/ (gsmagent.vala smsbookpage.vala): zhone2: catch up with fsogsmd API changes
Mar 25 17:45:37 <mickey|austria> ~seen morphis
Mar 25 17:45:41 <apt> morphis <~morphis@p5489F286.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 3d 8h 24m 58s ago, saying: 'spaetz: what about asking mickey if you can host the shr-source on git.freesmartphone.org?'.
Mar 25 17:46:16 <spaetz> hey, don't ping me like that:-)
Mar 25 17:47:15 <mickey|austria> heh
Mar 25 17:47:16 <mickey|austria> sorry
Mar 25 17:48:14 <spaetz> np :-)
Mar 25 18:09:36 <DocScrutinizer> amazing :-/  my irc client unregistered this morning, so I went to livelogs to check what I missed today in the morning -> nslu2 was down even longer it seems
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Mar 25 18:10:32 <DocScrutinizer> Mar 25 17:25:54 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r04b714fdfec7 10/fsogsmd/src/ (10 files in 5 dirs): fsogsmd: catch up with SMS API changes
Mar 25 18:30:23 <Azuvix> Okay, the installation was just perfect, but the wifi is a chore.
Mar 25 18:30:28 <Azuvix> Anything I can do about that?
Mar 25 18:43:46 <gnustavo> Hi! I've a Unknown boot option `g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:62:E7': ignoring
Mar 25 18:44:39 <gnustavo> and more errors on sdio_ar6000 
Mar 25 18:45:01 <gnustavo> here my dmesg http://pastebin.com/5BW05mjU 
Mar 25 18:45:17 <gnustavo> the wifi don't work
Mar 25 18:46:19 <gnustavo> I'm using qi and SHR-u
Mar 25 18:48:02 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, what's the status of the mixer scrpts? (i'm sick so i will prolly have time this weekend)
Mar 25 18:49:51 <DocScrutinizer> JesusMcCloud: sorry, it got out of my focus one more. I'll try to ship some template to you tonight
Mar 25 18:50:59 <JesusMcCloud> would be cool, i hope i won't get sicker
Mar 25 18:56:55 <DocScrutinizer> I hope I continue to feel better. Had terrible headache the whole day
Mar 25 19:03:21 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: just like me today...
Mar 25 19:09:33 <alabd> Good day all , what do those white and green fletcher point to ?
Mar 25 19:30:26 * DocScrutinizer sighs on alabd's poor wacky internet connection
Mar 25 19:31:32 <DocScrutinizer> dos1: hmm, and I blamed the chicken I ate yesterday
Mar 25 19:34:46 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: i didn't eat chicken yesterday ;o
Mar 25 19:36:40 <alabd> Good day all , does speech option work with navit on shr ? how to use it ? espeak is installed and speech.xml includes                 <speech type="espeak" data="espeak '%s' &amp;"/>
Mar 25 19:45:35 <Wonka> gnaarf. "elementary" is a _stupid_ name for anything people would like to search on the web for.
Mar 25 19:46:46 <misc> could be worst 
Mar 25 19:46:53 <misc> i am search for python gi module 
Mar 25 19:47:01 <misc> all i found is gi joe and python super villain 
Mar 25 19:49:33 <DocScrutinizer> alabd: espeak uses esd by default, this somehow borks things. The've been plenty of reports stating there's a way to pipe epeak output to aplay(iirc), which "works like a charm"
Mar 25 19:53:42 <alabd> DocScrutinizer thanks how to pipe it any material ?
Mar 25 19:55:45 <alabd> how to pipe espeak output to aplay
Mar 25 19:56:06 <alabd> DocScrutinizer you it does not work by default shr settings
Mar 25 19:57:43 <dos1> alabd: espeak --stdout "Your text" | aplay -
Mar 25 19:57:45 <DocScrutinizer> alabd: I don't know about the default SHR settings. Material about how to pipe should be somewhere in the ML, or web. Sorry I got no pointers
Mar 25 20:00:23 <alabd> dos1: thanks a lot navit setting is espeak '%s' &amp;
Mar 25 20:00:24 <alabd> espeak '%s' &amp;
Mar 25 20:00:37 <dos1> so
Mar 25 20:00:53 <alabd> it should be changed to 
Mar 25 20:01:02 <dos1> (espeak --stdout "%s" | aplay -) &
Mar 25 20:01:20 <dos1> alabd: (espeak --stdout "%s" | aplay -) &amp;
Mar 25 20:01:20 <DocScrutinizer> aplay -  ??
Mar 25 20:01:34 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: "-" makes it reading from stdin
Mar 25 20:01:45 <DocScrutinizer> I'd guess... mompl
Mar 25 20:01:48 <alabd> dos1:  what is amp ?
Mar 25 20:02:00 <dos1> alabd: &amp; is just & in XML
Mar 25 20:02:07 <DocScrutinizer> yup you're right
Mar 25 20:02:50 <alabd> are () required ?
Mar 25 20:02:58 <DocScrutinizer> alabd: it has nothing to do with AMPlifier ;-D
Mar 25 20:03:13 <DocScrutinizer> () won't hurt
Mar 25 20:04:13 <alabd> no xml content is so :
Mar 25 20:04:28 <alabd> <speech type="cmdline" data="espeak '%s' &amp;"/>
Mar 25 20:04:53 <alabd> should it be changed to 
Mar 25 20:05:22 <alabd> <speech type="cmdline" data="(espeak --stdout "%s" | aplay -) &amp;"/>
Mar 25 20:05:38 <DocScrutinizer> <speech type="cmdline" data="(espeak --stdout '%s' | aplay - ) &amp;"/>
Mar 25 20:06:44 <DocScrutinizer> or even
Mar 25 20:07:26 <DocScrutinizer> <speech type="cmdline" data="sh -c '(espeak --stdout \'%s\' | aplay - ) &amp;"/>
Mar 25 20:08:01 <DocScrutinizer> oops
Mar 25 20:08:09 <alabd> dos1: DocScrutinizer it seems because of that --  above commands will be disabled 
Mar 25 20:08:17 <DocScrutinizer> <speech type="cmdline" data="sh -c '(espeak --stdout \'%s\' | aplay - ) &amp`;"/>
Mar 25 20:09:02 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: &amp`; ?
Mar 25 20:09:09 <DocScrutinizer> alabd: I dunno what you're telling me
Mar 25 20:09:30 <DocScrutinizer> dos1: s/`/'/
Mar 25 20:09:40 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: then &amp'; ?
Mar 25 20:10:01 <dos1> DocScrutinizer: it has to be &amp; - that semicolon is part of ampersand notation :P
Mar 25 20:10:20 <DocScrutinizer> yep u r right
Mar 25 20:10:22 <alabd> -- make command commented
Mar 25 20:10:51 <DocScrutinizer> still don't understand
Mar 25 20:11:12 <alabd> try above commadn in xml file will get 
Mar 25 20:12:53 <alabd> try 
Mar 25 20:12:55 <alabd> <speech type="cmdline" data="sh -c '(espeak --stdout \'%s\' | aplay - ) &amp;"/>
Mar 25 20:12:59 <alabd> in xml file 
Mar 25 20:13:26 <alabd> the line will be commented because of -- chars
Mar 25 20:14:20 <DocScrutinizer> no, the line is missing a tick ' :   ' "/>
Mar 25 20:14:52 <DocScrutinizer> I'd try <speech type="cmdline" data="(espeak --stdout '%s' | aplay - ) &amp;"/>
Mar 25 20:14:55 <DocScrutinizer> first
Mar 25 20:15:44 <DocScrutinizer> hey, there's been several guys who have successfully done this config tweak, you should listen to them, not to me ;-D
Mar 25 20:16:11 <DocScrutinizer> [2010-03-25 21:01:19] <dos1> alabd: (espeak --stdout "%s" | aplay -) &amp;
Mar 25 20:30:24 <GarthPS> Hi guys! someone knkows how te find back my contact list? it is empty with the new shr-u image form yesterday. i did nothing elsa that "remove_tel" and still nothing.in other setting  PEM settings says "couldn't connect to FSO
Mar 25 20:31:04 <alabd> dos1: DocScrutinizer , becuase of -- befor stdout  whole line will be commented line in xml file 
Mar 25 20:32:23 <GarthPS> Nobody? everybody is eating? :)
Mar 25 20:32:23 <DocScrutinizer> alabd: strange! try \-\-
Mar 25 20:35:36 <alabd> DocScrutinizer dos1 does not this work in shr ? the default navit config 
Mar 25 20:35:42 <alabd>                 <speech type="cmdline" data="espeak '%s' &amp;"/>
Mar 25 20:35:44 <alabd> ?
Mar 25 20:35:59 <dos1> alabd: ...
Mar 25 20:36:04 <dos1> alabd: are you sure it will be commented?
Mar 25 20:36:10 <dos1> alabd: cause i'm surre it won't
Mar 25 20:36:14 <dos1> s/surre/sure/
Mar 25 20:36:14 <apt> dos1 meant: alabd: cause i'm sure it won't
Mar 25 20:36:20 <alabd> check in a simple xml file
Mar 25 20:36:41 <alabd> the whole line will be blue do
Mar 25 20:36:47 <alabd> dos1: ^
Mar 25 20:36:51 <dos1> alabd: my experience says something else than you're saying ;P
Mar 25 20:36:58 <dos1> alabd: as i was using navit with such line
Mar 25 20:37:08 <dos1> alabd: blah, it's only syntax colorizing, it can be wrong ;p
Mar 25 20:38:25 <alabd> so dos1 do you use this line ?
Mar 25 20:38:32 <alabd> <speech type="cmdline" data="(espeak --stdout "%s" | aplay -) &amp;"/> 
Mar 25 20:39:36 <dos1> alabd: just check if it works, instead of asking
Mar 25 20:40:01 <alabd> dos1: how to check ? 
Mar 25 20:44:34 <alabd> the only way humble know is to use navigation and move soemwhere and wait for navit speachs dos1 
Mar 25 20:44:59 <alabd> the better way is asking from who did it before
Mar 25 20:45:26 <dos1> alabd: you can test it with fake gps vehicle AFAIK
Mar 25 20:45:41 <dos1> alabd: and on getting fix it should say something about initial move
Mar 25 20:45:54 <dos1> alabd: so just test it. it should work now
Mar 25 20:46:15 <dos1> s/work/be working/
Mar 25 20:46:16 <apt> dos1 meant: alabd: so just test it. it should be working now
Mar 25 20:47:02 <alabd> don't know about fake gps of course am in trip and am connected here via gprs 
Mar 25 20:48:09 <GarthPS> does someone kows why on shr-u other settings "couldn't connect to FSO" ? (=> and my contact list is empty
Mar 25 20:53:36 <alabd> will try it in real tomorrow amen thank s a lot dos1 DocScrutinizer god peace you bye 4 now
Mar 25 20:58:31 <DocScrutinizer> GarthPS: "couldn't connect to FSO" usually means something failed on startup of the framework
Mar 25 20:59:06 <GarthPS> on a fres install it is possible? (shr-u of yesterdayà)
Mar 25 20:59:19 <GarthPS> how can I how what went wrong?
Mar 25 20:59:37 <GarthPS> DocDcrutinizer:ping
Mar 25 21:01:02 <DocScrutinizer> GarthPS: I can't help a lot with this problem. Ask TAsn or dos1 or mickey (though mickey isn't online now)
Mar 25 21:01:31 <GarthPS> DocDcrutinizer:ok thanks
Mar 25 22:44:50 <mickey|austria> did you guys notice any gsm-coming-up-more-reliable effect lately?
Mar 25 22:46:03 <playya> i only realized some novaterm unable to find device :/
Mar 25 22:48:30 <mickey|austria> heh
Mar 25 22:48:50 <mickey|austria> I'm afraid that's unrelated to my changes in libgsm0710mux :)
Mar 25 22:48:57 <playya> mickey|austria, where do you collect the information for the pre modem? webos-internals or fso wiki?
Mar 25 22:49:16 <mickey|austria> mainly webos-internals, we try not to fork the info
Mar 25 22:49:20 <mickey|austria> unless it's fso specific
Mar 25 22:49:37 <playya> ok
Mar 25 22:49:40 <mickey|austria> ~lart morphis for not working on the pre this week
Mar 25 22:49:40 * apt runs at morphis with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut for not working on the pre this week
Mar 25 22:49:54 <playya> i think i already have a account there
Mar 25 22:50:39 <playya> i remember some kind of escaping, but don't know how and where
Mar 25 22:53:13 <mickey|austria> in the protocol?
Mar 25 22:53:41 <mickey|austria> take a look at msmcommd, should be obvious from the sourc
Mar 25 22:53:41 <mickey|austria> e
Mar 25 22:54:33 <playya> ok
Mar 25 22:54:39 <playya> tomorrow
Mar 25 22:54:44 <playya> good night
Mar 25 22:54:53 <mickey|austria> n8
Mar 26 01:40:43 <DocScrutinizer51> heh mirko 
Mar 26 01:40:58 <mirko> heh DocScrutinizer51
Mar 26 01:43:39 <mirko> DocScrutinizer DocScrutinizer51 hm?
Mar 26 01:44:20 <DocScrutinizer> no particular issue, just hello
Mar 26 01:55:27 <mirko> well
Mar 26 01:55:32 <mirko> ...
Mar 26 01:55:35 <mirko> hello
Mar 26 01:55:36 <mirko> :)
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