**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 28 02:59:56 2010 Mar 28 06:34:29 hello Mar 28 06:34:43 which SHR is usable now? Mar 28 07:47:46 Good day all , how to make terminal layout the default layout ? Mar 28 07:53:48 and how to install .jar apps on shr ? Mar 28 08:19:27 TAsn: ping Mar 28 08:19:55 fsoraw -r CPU -- mplayer.. Mar 28 08:22:54 the above command does not make mplayer not go to suspend Mar 28 08:24:45 and how to make layout not be closed after scrolling between windows Mar 28 09:13:59 .jar on SHR? I'm not sure if there's java in SHR Mar 28 09:19:54 there is jamvm Mar 28 09:32:30 someone stole 1h of my sleep :/ Mar 28 09:33:12 it's sunday, just sleep 1h longer ;) Mar 28 10:06:11 Heinervdm: hi! How are you? Mar 28 10:06:14 Heinervdm: tell me, do you know where is the package's signature file of opkg? as the server is down i want to install a package from my build but md5sun mismatch Mar 28 10:06:51 GarthPS: it should be in /etc/opkg i think Mar 28 10:07:30 Heinervdm: this is for its sources but I don't think signatures are there Mar 28 10:09:31 GarthPS: but in /etc/opkg/opkg.conf you can find the path ;) Mar 28 10:09:42 /var/lib/opkg Mar 28 10:10:12 Heinervdm : yep! am in! thx! Mar 28 10:33:41 moin Mar 28 10:39:42 hmm, git.shr-project.org down again? Mar 28 10:42:48 seems so :( Mar 28 10:47:33 fatal: HTTP request failed Mar 28 10:47:34 while parsing /home/w/OM/SHR/build/shr-unstable/openembedded/recipes/shr/libphone-utils_git.bb Mar 28 10:47:48 and because of _that_, i cannot rebuild ppp? WTF? Mar 28 10:51:25 eek! I seemed to have locked my SHR freerunner. How do I get out of the "please enter your unlock password" prompt? Mar 28 11:07:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r08f13d9cbc65 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Mar 28 11:07:05 freesmartphone.org: support the new [DBus (timeout = %u)] attribute to override the default Mar 28 11:07:05 freesmartphone.org: timeout effective in static dbus client method calls. NOTE that dynamic Mar 28 11:07:05 freesmartphone.org: calls still use the default bus timeout (25 seconds in unpatched dbus Mar 28 11:07:06 freesmartphone.org: daemons...) Mar 28 11:18:05 aaargh. which .bb file is the package-index target in? Mar 28 11:19:38 build.shr-project.org is down Mar 28 11:19:48 is there some mirror? Mar 28 11:22:12 hello! Mar 28 11:22:34 i want to play mp3 or ogg ringtones, but fsodeviced doesn't let me use canberra player Mar 28 11:23:28 logs says nothing useful... Mar 28 11:23:33 s/says/say/ Mar 28 11:23:34 daniele_athome meant: logs say nothing useful... Mar 28 11:25:59 Wonka recipes/meta/package-index.bb Mar 28 11:26:34 oh... too easy. doesn't show up on "grep -ri package-index openembedded/recipes" though. Mar 28 11:31:49 Good day all , fsoraw -r CPU -- mplayer.. Mar 28 11:31:49 the above command does not make mplayer not going to suspend Mar 28 11:32:14 sorry Mar 28 11:32:52 the above command does not make shr not go suspend while mplayer is running Mar 28 11:36:40 and how to have java on shr?? Mar 28 11:37:24 alabd, mmm java on shr Mar 28 11:37:27 be careful :P Mar 28 11:38:46 ? daniele_athome Mar 28 11:38:58 i mean... java is very weight... Mar 28 11:40:13 daniele_athome: so how to install .jar apps ? Mar 28 11:41:42 alabd, never tried it but I guess: just install a jvm Mar 28 11:41:52 and then run the jar with java -jar package.jar Mar 28 11:42:48 yes but how ? Mar 28 11:43:24 hi mickeyl, Mar 28 11:43:46 and is there any messenger for shr that supports yahoo protocol ? Mar 28 11:43:59 mickeyl, I had some faillures checking out the android uttilities from fso under oe Mar 28 11:45:21 alabd, from command line Mar 28 11:45:27 java -jar package.jar Mar 28 11:45:45 and I guess you should install a jvm but i don't know actually where you can take one Mar 28 11:45:46 for FR Mar 28 11:45:48 GNUtoo: hi, how did it fail? Mar 28 11:45:56 look in openmoko wiki Mar 28 11:46:09 I'll look but I'm currently building a rootfs for bug device Mar 28 11:46:19 it couldn't find some ref Mar 28 11:48:07 first with AUTOREV on it tried to find revision 1 Mar 28 11:48:09 which doesn't exist Mar 28 11:48:14 then I set a revision Mar 28 11:48:26 alabd: yep, Pidgin Mar 28 11:48:38 for instance here's one of my tmpdir's dirs: android-image-utils-native-1.0+gitr1-r1 Mar 28 11:49:30 then I put 7137c7620ae99c6804ee733124b28ef43b39e2cf which resulted in couldn't unpack some hash Mar 28 11:49:42 but I've no logs for the second part Mar 28 11:50:07 should I stop bug device's build and try to build android-image-utils-native-1.0+gitr1-r1 ? Mar 28 11:50:13 I use stock oe.dev Mar 28 11:50:46 looks like this is missing a SRCREV in the file Mar 28 11:50:51 please put the latest in Mar 28 11:51:01 master should work fine atm. Mar 28 11:51:24 mickeyl, it's autorev Mar 28 11:51:40 master didn't work Mar 28 11:51:47 master was 7137c7620ae99c6804ee733124b28ef43b39e2cf Mar 28 11:51:54 I'll stop bug build Mar 28 11:52:13 ah it's generating locales Mar 28 11:52:20 can I stop it while it's generating locales? Mar 28 11:52:58 maybe I have logs in irc Mar 28 11:53:14 fatal: failed to unpack tree object 0c68b1e8e4507090b8affbcedaac8efde6d0e9b7 Mar 28 11:53:37 that's with SRCREV_pn-android-image-utils-native = "7137c7620ae99c6804ee733124b28ef43b39e2cf" in local.conf Mar 28 11:54:25 hmm... Mar 28 11:54:30 hmm Mar 28 11:54:37 I'd still like dalvik&co in SHR ;) Mar 28 11:54:53 so I can run Android apps in SHR Mar 28 11:56:57 Wonka, that is possible,I heard some people ported dalvik&co to ubuntu but I never found the sources Mar 28 11:57:08 coool Mar 28 11:58:02 for instance http://mjfrey.blogspot.com/2009/05/android-full-screen-on-ubuntu.html Mar 28 11:59:07 * GNUtoo wonder if all theses dalvik stories are fake Mar 28 12:00:45 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * re54d2e8b1c52 10/ (15 files in 2 dirs): (partly) convert project to autotools and install a .pc file Mar 28 12:00:58 maybe the repo is at canonical somewhere Mar 28 12:01:11 because the blog says that he's working for canonical Mar 28 12:01:13 since I am on the openmoko community mailing list I receive mails from chuck norris Mar 28 12:01:48 mickeyl, that's cool :) Mar 28 12:03:21 Wonka, seem not fake,but I'd like to see the code Mar 28 12:03:32 Serdar1: ya, improving specs generation for non-OE distros :) Mar 28 12:03:47 I love pc files :) Mar 28 12:04:05 I tried myself a bit but I am not good at it. Mar 28 12:04:39 I guess, that my programming skills are not that good :/ Mar 28 12:04:49 I used it on oge the first time. Mar 28 12:07:00 ya, pc files are not bad, at least somewhat of a build metadata standard Mar 28 12:07:14 better than the binary 'foo-config' madness Mar 28 12:17:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rbb690a2a4da1 10/ (Makefile fso-specs.pc.in): fix pc-file and remove generated Makefile Mar 28 12:19:19 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * re768c89c32c8 10/ (11 files in 2 dirs): remove generated files; this project now requires fso-specs and vala-dbus-binding-tool to be built first Mar 28 12:19:20 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rf1a0b3fe2ed6 10/ (.gitignore configure.ac src/Makefile.am): fix project to use .pc file created by fso-specs Mar 28 12:23:29 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r6f2ec7f0f41e 10/configure.ac: post-release version bump Mar 28 12:53:44 Off topic: Mar 28 12:53:46 http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/aWwaE6eh5kE/Israels-Supreme-Court-Says-Yes-To-Internet-Anonymity Mar 28 12:53:54 Finally a sane call from the israeli supreme court. Mar 28 12:54:11 It's probably the first thing they did that china wouldn't do :P Mar 28 13:27:57 Does somebody can _clone_ git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git ? Mar 28 13:28:05 update works, clone fails Mar 28 13:28:24 " remote: fatal: Out of memory? mmap failed: Cannot allocate memory" Mar 28 13:28:42 when counting objects at 1395614 Mar 28 14:21:06 is it possible the device id and vendor id changed in .32? :P Mar 28 14:25:04 P: Vendor=0525 ProdID=a4a2 Rev=03.12 Mar 28 14:25:04 S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.32.9 with s3c2410_udc Mar 28 14:25:04 S: Product=RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget Mar 28 14:25:16 I seemed to have locked my SHR freerunner. How do I get out of the "please enter your unlock password" prompt? Mar 28 14:25:17 I think this is why it changed name and didn't work, everything is different now :P Mar 28 14:25:23 sybren: by ssh ? Mar 28 14:26:07 Oh, because we probably don't have device specific Mar 28 14:26:21 patches Mar 28 14:26:24 in our .32 Mar 28 14:27:30 misc: and then what? I can kill enlightenment, but I was hoping for a more subtle approach Mar 28 14:27:49 sybren: kill the locking program ? Mar 28 14:27:58 it's probably an e module Mar 28 14:28:09 so he can only kill e itself :P Mar 28 14:30:18 ciao. Mar 28 14:51:08 TAsn, misc: I was afraid of that... Mar 28 15:20:42 sybren: mh, tried the root password? maybe setting/changing it first? Mar 28 15:23:19 mrmoku, dos1 do you know if there's some elm widget to select a file from disk? Mar 28 15:23:40 pespin: look at elementary-tests Mar 28 15:23:59 ok :) Mar 28 15:25:35 pespin: elm_fileselector_add Mar 28 16:01:13 Wonka: I have no keyboard on my freerunner ;-) Mar 28 16:01:28 Wonka, TAsn, misc: a HUP signal to enlightenment worked wonders Mar 28 16:01:30 sybren: bad. for you. Mar 28 16:01:47 sybren: 'k - will remember when I need that, I hope Mar 28 16:01:52 :) Mar 28 16:23:51 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r99e821f6eb86 10/Makefile.am: prepend DESTDIR in install Mar 28 16:29:57 where can I find gta02 kernel config file for 2.6.32? Mar 28 16:45:27 mickeyl: you meant arch/arm/configs/ ? there arent any gta02* files in om-gta02-2.6.32 branch Mar 28 16:46:22 Martix: ok, might try the one in OE then Mar 28 16:46:33 ok Mar 28 16:46:35 recipes/linux/linux-openmoko-2.6.32/om-gta02/ Mar 28 16:47:46 found it, thanks Mar 28 16:55:29 JaMa: Mar 28 16:55:29 mrmoku: is the 2.6.32 recipe in OE building the definite .32 version? i want to start with my tests Mar 28 16:55:30 GNUtoo: any recommendation for updating the dream linux-leviathan rev in OE? Mar 28 16:55:30 GNUtoo: i'm not sure i like the framebuffer refresh thread changes Mar 28 16:55:30 changing the kernel just because a UI toolkit doesn't work doesn't sound right to me Mar 28 17:02:49 Hurray, it's netsplit day! Mar 28 17:10:15 ok, i'll take 48afbaf19428893b7aec0a385970f300c38300c3 for now Mar 28 17:12:27 mickeyl: shall I take that too? :P Mar 28 17:13:24 mrmoku: probably not for the FR Mar 28 17:13:47 that hash was for the dream kernel Mar 28 17:13:49 :P Mar 28 17:13:49 ok Mar 28 17:14:59 mickeyl: vala-dbus-binding-tool: Error: Error opening directory '/usr/share/freesmartphone/xml': No such file or directory Mar 28 17:15:44 I adjusted fso-specs to inherit pkgconfig and autotools Mar 28 17:15:55 and removed the custom staging Mar 28 17:16:39 that builds fine and puts its stuff in staging under /usr/share/freesmartphone Mar 28 17:16:47 but libfso-glib is missing the staging prefix somehow Mar 28 17:16:54 git pull Mar 28 17:16:54 should all be fixed Mar 28 17:16:54 OE? Mar 28 17:16:54 there is CPUfreq driver for S3C24xx in 2.6.32, will be this feature enabled in distribution kernel? Mar 28 17:16:54 yes Mar 28 17:16:55 ahh, thanks :) Mar 28 17:17:18 be sure to use latest fso-glib and fso-specs as well Mar 28 17:17:35 yeah, I'm using fso-autorev locally Mar 28 17:17:38 good Mar 28 17:17:44 fsogsmd has made lots of progress while i was away Mar 28 17:17:59 should run really fine on the FR now Mar 28 17:18:08 will tell you soon :) Mar 28 17:18:13 good :) Mar 28 17:18:30 with the new vala timeout handling we should also prevent some problems with frameworkd Mar 28 17:18:36 namely in fsousaged Mar 28 17:19:24 oh, and libgsm0710mux received an important fix as well Mar 28 17:19:43 i think we should be much better wrt. timing these days Mar 28 17:19:57 great Mar 28 17:21:18 apart from some missing functionality i think fsogsmd should be ready for inclusion Mar 28 17:21:41 we're planning to switch soon Mar 28 17:21:47 good Mar 28 17:21:51 as soon as phonefsod plays nice with it Mar 28 17:21:56 right Mar 28 17:22:03 I converted it to libfso-glib Mar 28 17:22:13 looks good Mar 28 17:22:19 good, that allows for better API adjustements Mar 28 17:22:28 i did quite a bunch Mar 28 17:22:33 to simplify and streamline Mar 28 17:23:05 it's not finished, but i don't expect any earthshaking changes either Mar 28 17:23:12 did you decide something regarding PIN? Mar 28 17:23:16 yes Mar 28 17:23:29 new pin handling is like that: Mar 28 17:23:37 you call SetFuncationality() Mar 28 17:23:47 which will always succeed Mar 28 17:23:53 however, if there's a missing PIN Mar 28 17:24:05 then you will receive the corresponding signal Mar 28 17:24:11 then you can decide whether to use SendAuthCode Mar 28 17:24:14 or SetFunctionality again Mar 28 17:24:37 so basically you should only listen for AuthStatus() Mar 28 17:24:38 saw that in zhone2 code... but saw some comment about PIN not working yet too Mar 28 17:24:46 so I thought I'd ask :) Mar 28 17:25:27 you probably stumbled over Mar 28 17:25:28 yield gsmdev.set_functionality( "full", true, "" ); // no idea about any PIN yet Mar 28 17:25:43 that means "at this point in the control flow, i don't know whether we need a PIN or not" Mar 28 17:27:17 yup Mar 28 17:27:22 ok Mar 28 17:58:01 I am trying to download shr testing and shr unstable.Both are offline.Any info Mar 28 17:58:03 ? Mar 28 17:59:26 not more info than 'it's offline' :/ Mar 28 18:00:46 mrmoku: do you want access on amethyst? Mar 28 18:00:53 mrmoku: how much space would a mirror need? Mar 28 18:01:05 well you can't complain since it is a sponsored buildhost... :-/ Mar 28 18:02:39 another wuestion: how much traffic, bandwith, ram, cpu power is needed? maybe i can check for some offers (i know a few guys from an ISP here in austria that offers linux servers aswell) Mar 28 18:02:49 mickeyl: somehow we should look for alternatives, yes :/ Mar 28 18:03:16 mickeyl: I set up gitolite on another server... as soon as the (old) buildhost is back up we can switch to it Mar 28 18:03:31 amethyst would be for building? or for downloading too? Mar 28 18:03:57 mrmoku: depends on how popular SHR is ;) Mar 28 18:04:16 hehe... no fear (yet) :P Mar 28 18:04:25 has some bandwith limit? Mar 28 18:04:25 mrmoku, can you say anything on minumus specs for buildhost? (bandwith, ram, cpu power, traffic) Mar 28 18:04:46 s/minimus/minimum/ Mar 28 18:05:00 JesusMcCloud: I have *no* idea about traffic... Mar 28 18:05:11 ok lets put traffic aside Mar 28 18:05:14 for the rest.. the more the better :) Mar 28 18:05:59 but it is also a matter of money per month, if i know some data i might be able to get something for <50euro/month Mar 28 18:06:31 JesusMcCloud: roh suggested to get a hetzner box for 50€/month and share the costs somehow Mar 28 18:06:46 that would be a nice corei7 :) Mar 28 18:06:56 hmmm Mar 28 18:08:31 we just need 50 SHR enthusiast who are willing to pay 1€/month :P Mar 28 18:08:57 hmm i'll ask (on their hp the offer some servers with xen virtual whatever, doesnt soudn so good...) Mar 28 18:09:13 hetzner? Mar 28 18:09:23 nope, xpirio in austria Mar 28 18:09:30 ahh Mar 28 18:09:31 http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/eq4/ Mar 28 18:10:23 ok, prolly the best you can get for the price... Mar 28 18:11:15 hetzner sounds just awesome... Mar 28 18:11:27 how many GBs we need? Mar 28 18:11:46 i'm sure there are enough people willign to pay 1-2 eur per moth, but paypal sucks Mar 28 18:11:47 mickeyl: ouch... pkgconfig fails to build :/ Mar 28 18:11:49 install: cannot change permissions of `/usr/lib/pkgconfig': No such file or directory Mar 28 18:12:43 heh... guess that was koen Mar 28 18:15:58 anyhow bbl ( 50eur/moth is not the problem, but a sane way to pay it without huge overhead costs.. and for 2 € a moth overhead gets huge quite easily) Mar 28 18:24:38 mrmoku: shoot him :D Mar 28 18:24:50 * mickeyl just kidding Mar 28 18:26:15 maybe I can try to ensure new hosting for SHR for free Mar 28 18:26:46 that'd rock Mar 28 18:26:47 need to know SHR requirements Mar 28 18:27:02 bearstech can probably give you number Mar 28 18:27:03 s Mar 28 18:27:03 mickeyl: guess it is just the missing ${D] Mar 28 18:28:11 ah, k Mar 28 18:28:54 JaMa, .32 doesn't always recover from a suspend :| Mar 28 18:29:05 error says something about drm set mode Mar 28 18:29:21 TAsn: with KMS? Mar 28 18:29:41 .32 that jama gave me Mar 28 18:29:44 I assume yes. Mar 28 18:29:44 (/me wonders if everyone in this channel has figured out which words he has on highlight :) Mar 28 18:29:50 hmm.. can you paste a dmesg? Mar 28 18:30:04 I can try to reproduce Mar 28 18:30:05 sec Mar 28 18:30:50 * mrmoku tries.... drm drm drm Mar 28 18:31:00 * mickeyl chuckles Mar 28 18:31:48 you'll get occasional messages from DRM, but generally they're nothing important Mar 28 18:32:23 e.g. [drm] DAC-5: set mode 480x640 6 Mar 28 18:32:39 Deubeuliou: ping Mar 28 18:35:07 Weiss, nothing like that. Mar 28 18:35:13 Weiss, It'll take me a sec thouh Mar 28 18:35:25 okie, moving back to .32 Mar 28 18:35:27 to test Mar 28 18:36:52 ~seen leviathan Mar 28 18:36:53 leviathan is currently on #htc-linux (26m 18s) #openmoko-cdevel (26m 18s), last said: '*gg* ah, ok'. Mar 28 18:36:58 oh Mar 28 18:37:00 leviathan: ping Mar 28 18:37:51 leviathan: with 48afbaf19428893b7aec0a385970f300c38300c3 i still get the dreaded Jan 6 19:19:10 htcdream user.warn kernel: [ 777.422668] stop_drawing_early_suspend: timeout waiting for userspace to stop drawing Mar 28 18:38:00 leviathan: did that work for you? Mar 28 18:38:04 mickeyl: heyo Mar 28 18:38:10 heyo, long time no see Mar 28 18:38:17 yes Mar 28 18:38:22 study and so on Mar 28 18:38:23 mickeyl, what if I remove wakelocks? do you have support for wakelocks in fso? Mar 28 18:38:37 uhm Mar 28 18:38:41 GNUtoo: i'm afraid the whole kernel will break erradically if you remove wakelocks Mar 28 18:38:41 mickeyl: I got it working Mar 28 18:38:44 the suspend thing Mar 28 18:38:54 leviathan: with 48afbaf19428893b7aec0a385970f300c38300c3 or only master? Mar 28 18:38:55 I just implemented the refresh thread suspend Mar 28 18:38:58 (which is one rev afterwards) Mar 28 18:39:00 and whoop it worked Mar 28 18:39:01 ^^ Mar 28 18:39:02 mickeyl, like the vibrator? Mar 28 18:39:07 GNUtoo: yep Mar 28 18:39:11 ok Mar 28 18:39:19 TAsn: your mail client is horrible... Mar 28 18:39:21 GNUtoo: I'm afraid we have to keep the wakelocks even if we don't use them Mar 28 18:39:27 mickeyl: http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commit/48afbaf19428893b7aec0a385970f300c38300c3 Mar 28 18:39:30 leviathan: hmm, ok, doesn't work for me Mar 28 18:39:38 i'm running 48afb Mar 28 18:39:39 since then suspend works Mar 28 18:39:43 mickeyl, I'll try removing early syspend Mar 28 18:39:43 Heinervdm, I know, I'm using gmail :| Mar 28 18:39:45 try my version Mar 28 18:39:48 Heinervdm, what now though? :P Mar 28 18:39:52 with the newest release it works Mar 28 18:39:54 leviathan, yes but we don't know how to use it... Mar 28 18:39:57 but we have still no rotation Mar 28 18:40:05 hmm Mar 28 18:40:08 huuuu? Mar 28 18:40:13 leviathan: it needs to work w/ OE Mar 28 18:40:14 leviathan, mickeyl told me that we should concentrate on radios(wifi,bt) Mar 28 18:40:18 let me diff your defconfig Mar 28 18:40:23 where's your latest? Mar 28 18:40:25 TAsn: your first line is always in the citiation of the mail answered to Mar 28 18:40:30 mickeyl: mom Mar 28 18:40:44 leviathan, how do you go out of suspend? you press a button? Mar 28 18:40:52 you echo in a sys file? Mar 28 18:41:02 on dream probably echo "on" >/sys/power/state Mar 28 18:41:15 it'd be interesting to know what _exactly_ happens during dream's suspend Mar 28 18:41:19 he got it working so I'm asking how did he do Mar 28 18:41:23 can we see the clocking? Mar 28 18:41:30 mickeyl: http://pastebin.com/zWGbbMvc Mar 28 18:41:32 kernel config Mar 28 18:41:33 mickeyl, apm -s => you still have a shell Mar 28 18:41:33 :) Mar 28 18:41:50 GNUtoo: yeah, dream doesn't suspend like a real linux machine Mar 28 18:41:55 it's still accessible Mar 28 18:41:59 you can ping it et. al. Mar 28 18:42:00 mickeyl: resume with echo on > /sys/power/state Mar 28 18:42:08 Heinervdm, damn gmail. :| Mar 28 18:42:15 leviathan: did you try that with usb attached? Mar 28 18:42:19 yes Mar 28 18:42:28 resume, suspend, resume, suspend Mar 28 18:42:33 Weiss, won't boot :| sec. Mar 28 18:42:35 multiple times after each other Mar 28 18:42:38 TAsn: you can try to add an additional newline Mar 28 18:42:39 works perfect now Mar 28 18:42:46 only thing to do is your part Mar 28 18:42:48 Heinervdm, will do from now on. Mar 28 18:42:51 in this terrain Mar 28 18:42:56 TAsn: thx :) Mar 28 18:42:58 during syspend: BogoMIPS : 383.38 Mar 28 18:43:01 making it resume, when pressing a button Mar 28 18:43:04 we should do the math to get the clock Mar 28 18:43:13 mickeyl: check out newest revision from gitorious Mar 28 18:43:17 and use my config Mar 28 18:43:23 then it should work smoothly Mar 28 18:43:24 :) Mar 28 18:43:27 Weiss, food, will try again after. Mar 28 18:44:14 mickeyl, did you see my (and not only mine) quick IRC report about missing scenarios ? Mar 28 18:44:34 fsodeviced sometimes decides to drop some scenarios Mar 28 18:44:47 for instance gsmhandset is not there anymore for me :| Mar 28 18:44:55 anyhow, food first Mar 28 18:44:57 talks later Mar 28 18:44:58 ciao. Mar 28 18:45:28 leviathan: :/ Mar 28 18:45:33 hell of a diff Mar 28 18:45:36 can't do that Mar 28 18:45:45 besides, it needs to be reproducable Mar 28 18:45:50 i.e. being built by OE Mar 28 18:46:04 TAsn: no, never heard about that Mar 28 18:46:25 mickeyl: 2010.03.28 20:46:04.059776 [phonefsod] DEBUG: fso_network_status_handler(registration=home) Mar 28 18:46:28 looks good :D Mar 28 18:46:32 ah well, not too bad Mar 28 18:46:35 mrmoku: yay! Mar 28 18:46:46 mickeyl: just try it :) Mar 28 18:47:02 you dont have to build it with OE Mar 28 18:47:13 just play around and look how it fits into OE Mar 28 18:47:23 thats my custom kernel config for development Mar 28 18:47:32 hmm Mar 28 18:47:33 some options dont have to be like that Mar 28 18:47:40 apm emulation Mar 28 18:47:41 noooo Mar 28 18:47:49 missing iptables Mar 28 18:47:50 etc. Mar 28 18:47:54 the most important part is the new revision Mar 28 18:48:02 +CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME=y Mar 28 18:48:04 that could be it Mar 28 18:48:05 even initiating a call works :) Mar 28 18:48:14 mrmoku: glad to hear Mar 28 18:48:38 mrmoku: call handling is not optimized for calypso yet, but will still work fine Mar 28 18:48:49 couldn't be bothered yet to implement all the magic commands Mar 28 18:49:01 so it's using standard call handling Mar 28 18:49:03 mickeyl: the 'please report to...' warnings in the log... interested? or probably known? Mar 28 18:49:15 mrmoku: at this point of time not Mar 28 18:49:20 ok :) Mar 28 18:49:24 many commands not implemented yet Mar 28 18:49:33 out of interest... what was it ? Mar 28 18:49:34 :) Mar 28 18:49:48 CPI and CCCN Mar 28 18:49:53 right Mar 28 18:49:57 CPI is special call handling Mar 28 18:50:03 CCCN is supplemental service notifications Mar 28 18:50:07 CSSN probably Mar 28 18:50:08 right? Mar 28 18:50:21 or something along that Mar 28 18:50:31 no, not yet Mar 28 18:50:43 but signals strength does not work Mar 28 18:50:51 at least the gsm gadget doesn't show a signal Mar 28 18:52:48 gsm gadget should use both the signal strength signal and the status signal Mar 28 18:53:14 leviathan: does the refresh thread frequency matter for suspend/resume? Mar 28 18:53:27 oops Mar 28 18:53:33 glitched into it Mar 28 18:53:39 it was a try to fix gtk Mar 28 18:53:58 but it seems to come from an other source then the refresh rate Mar 28 18:54:00 the error Mar 28 18:54:04 k Mar 28 18:54:09 oh well Mar 28 18:54:11 for the sake of trying it Mar 28 18:54:25 let me try your binary Mar 28 18:54:43 got a link? Mar 28 18:55:39 mickeyl: CLIP and RING are two more Mar 28 18:55:55 dos1: http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/702/ Mar 28 18:55:58 hello - since the build.shr-project.org website is down at the moment, i wanted to ask if there is a other site where i can get the current shr images Mar 28 18:56:01 RING? d'oh Mar 28 18:56:19 ah it's in /sys/power Mar 28 18:56:22 state wait_for_fb_sleep wait_for_fb_wake wake_lock wake_unlock Mar 28 18:56:22 neldoreth: no, there is no mirror Mar 28 18:57:10 uhmm Mar 28 18:57:14 Heinervdm: ok, too bad - is there any information when the site is up again? Mar 28 18:57:18 mickeyl: I'll upload one Mar 28 18:57:20 mom Mar 28 18:57:29 neldoreth: no, we don't know either Mar 28 18:58:01 Heinervdm: ok, thank you Mar 28 18:58:48 leviathan: thanks Mar 28 18:58:50 bbl, dinner Mar 28 18:59:17 kk Mar 28 19:04:33 Can someone upload latest shr testing release ?(px. rapidshare) Mar 28 19:05:26 mickey|dinner, it works...I tried something: Mar 28 19:05:29 apm -s Mar 28 19:05:30 Xorg Mar 28 19:05:42 and it wakes up the screen Mar 28 19:06:05 I've done other things in between tough Mar 28 19:06:30 echo "on" > /sys/power/state Mar 28 19:06:33 so: Mar 28 19:06:35 apm -s Mar 28 19:06:42 echo "on" > /sys/power/state Mar 28 19:06:47 Xorg Mar 28 19:06:53 I'll try to see if unblank works Mar 28 19:24:52 mrmoku: pong ? Mar 28 19:25:00 hey Mar 28 19:25:06 two questions :) Mar 28 19:25:16 a) do you know something about the buildhost? Mar 28 19:25:35 b) whom from bearstech to ask for traffic statistics? Mar 28 19:26:45 a) not yet, but I just woke up Mar 28 19:27:03 heh, nice :P Mar 28 19:28:34 b) who is the contact ? lukhas, right ? then you might ask him Mar 28 19:29:03 ok thanks Mar 28 19:32:33 heh... got disconnected :/ Mar 28 19:37:24 TAsn: ping Mar 28 19:40:18 DocScrutinizer: I just pulled dirtiest hack of my life Mar 28 19:40:57 Orias_Korva: oh rly? Mar 28 19:40:58 ;) Mar 28 19:41:34 i flashed my nor the ghetto way. and my shoulder started hurting again, it was exciting Mar 28 19:41:40 hehe Mar 28 19:41:48 here's what happened Mar 28 19:42:20 I have a wire, soldered at nor wp' tp on one end, and the other end is loose Mar 28 19:42:23 floating Mar 28 19:43:16 i held the floating point(no pun intended) against the RX tp with my right hand Mar 28 19:43:26 while typing commands with my left hand Mar 28 19:43:53 a very nervous experience, and my crippled arm began to shake, ow it still hurts Mar 28 19:44:07 but now I have a nor boot menu, complete with OM logo Mar 28 19:44:11 sound like a exact description of one of my average days :-P Mar 28 19:44:23 DocScrutinizer: haha Mar 28 19:44:47 LOL Mar 28 19:48:22 hallo :-) Mar 28 19:57:04 Hello all Mar 28 19:57:11 JaMa: hey Mar 28 19:57:18 hangover gone? :P Mar 28 19:58:13 JaMa: current fsogsmd looks good :) Mar 28 19:59:59 JaMa: do you have a libphoneui.conf for .32? Mar 28 20:01:21 mrmoku: today no hangover just hard work :) Mar 28 20:01:36 mrmoku: I have.. but not sure if i used right alsa control.. Mar 28 20:01:56 I just tried some similary named which existed in .32 :) Mar 28 20:04:26 leviathan, are you still there Mar 28 20:04:30 ? Mar 28 20:04:36 sry Mar 28 20:04:39 was eating too Mar 28 20:06:22 ok np Mar 28 20:06:42 leviathan, apm -s && echo on > /sys/power/state && Xorg Mar 28 20:06:53 and you'll get screen back Mar 28 20:06:59 but that's not an acceptable workarround Mar 28 20:07:05 because we can't stop xorg Mar 28 20:07:22 also mickey|dinner will make some framebuffer images Mar 28 20:07:31 JaMa: you know how to use DocScrutinizer's newsflash feature? ... buildhost got rebooted... new RAM will arrive beginning of next week Mar 28 20:07:33 GNUtoo: what sort of odd command is that? Mar 28 20:07:51 lindi-, we are trying to make suspend work on htcdream Mar 28 20:08:14 GNUtoo: what does "on" do? Mar 28 20:08:24 #openmoko-cdevel-bb Mar 28 20:08:31 ~#openmoko-cdevel-bb Mar 28 20:08:32 The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at #openmoko-cdevel-BB2. For help see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-03-28 20:03 UTC]: buildhost still down frequently Mar 28 20:08:54 lindi-, it normally send you out of suspend,but you can't do it on a freerunner because you can't type command while in suspend mode Mar 28 20:09:42 apt: no, #openmoko-cdevel-BB is The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at #openmoko-cdevel-BB2. For help see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-03-28 21:09 UTC]:buildhost got rebooted... new RAM will arrive beginning of next week Mar 28 20:09:43 okay, DocScrutinizer Mar 28 20:09:52 ~#openmoko-cdevel-bb Mar 28 20:09:54 The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at #openmoko-cdevel-BB2. For help see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~#openmoko-cdevel-BB-RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-03-28 21:09 UTC]:buildhost got rebooted... new RAM will arrive beginning of next week Mar 28 20:10:35 DocScrutinizer: thanks :) Mar 28 20:10:40 yw Mar 28 20:12:48 mrmoku: rebooted or downed? :) Mar 28 20:13:04 worked 3min ago Mar 28 20:13:26 it is pinging Mar 28 20:13:33 GNUtoo: hello? Mar 28 20:13:40 it works, if you make a pull -_- Mar 28 20:13:49 leviathan, ok Mar 28 20:13:52 and tomorrow we will probably get some statistics regarding web traffic Mar 28 20:14:01 Martix: ^^ Mar 28 20:14:46 leviathan, when did you update? Mar 28 20:14:49 because: Mar 28 20:14:50 git pull Mar 28 20:14:50 Already up-to-date. Mar 28 20:15:06 GNUtoo: how can a command send you out of suspend? Mar 28 20:15:12 head is at 26268253c2f3f670cea133668ccfa503ffcc800e Mar 28 20:15:23 GNUtoo: how can you ever execute commands while in suspend? Mar 28 20:15:33 lindi-: because it doesnt really suspend Mar 28 20:15:41 htcdream can't suspend at all Mar 28 20:15:46 its just clocking down Mar 28 20:15:51 lindi-, dream use a system that lower clocks instead of suspending,apm is an emulation on top of that Mar 28 20:15:53 and deactivating the lcd Mar 28 20:16:15 GNUtoo: omap? Mar 28 20:16:28 lindi-, msm Mar 28 20:16:43 GNUtoo, mickey|dinner: http://ftp.o2s.ch/4mickey/ Mar 28 20:16:53 echo on > /sys/power/state Mar 28 20:16:57 GNUtoo: that is omap, right? Mar 28 20:17:17 :) Mar 28 20:17:24 lindi-, no it's another soc Mar 28 20:17:44 leviathan, when did you push? Mar 28 20:17:49 'Support for Qualcomm MSM7X00A based systems. This runs on the ARM11 apps processor of the MSM7X00A and depends on a shared memory interface to the ARM9 modem processor which runs the baseband stack and controls some vital subsystems (clock and power control, etc). ' Mar 28 20:17:55 GNUtoo: some time ago ;) Mar 28 20:17:57 leviathan, is 26268253c2f3f670cea133668ccfa503ffcc800e last rev? Mar 28 20:18:03 dunno what youre doing wrong Mar 28 20:18:10 for me it works smoothly Mar 28 20:18:12 ... Mar 28 20:18:22 leviathan, which xserver are you using? Mar 28 20:18:42 GNUtoo: Xorg + xf86-video-msm Mar 28 20:18:52 ok I'll try that Mar 28 20:24:44 leviathan, does efl displays correctly? Mar 28 20:24:50 yes Mar 28 20:24:53 ok Mar 28 20:24:53 but gtk doesnt Mar 28 20:24:57 I know Mar 28 20:25:05 maybe my icons size are too big Mar 28 20:28:20 my little graphic issue is not important,you scroll and it disapears Mar 28 20:28:22 JaMa: btw. 2.6.32.10 does not boot for me Mar 28 20:28:26 2.6.32.9 does Mar 28 20:28:38 no matter what rootdelay I set Mar 28 20:30:05 heh... after reboot I get lots of Alignment traps :/ Mar 28 20:30:10 mrmoku: even with debug? (POWER pressed while booting?) Mar 28 20:30:11 Mar 28 22:28:21 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: Alignment trap: phonefsod (715) PC=0x4000a600 Instr=0x07926005 Address=0x40278012 FSR 0x013 Mar 28 20:30:35 argiris: it seems that the server is online again Mar 28 20:30:38 JaMa: did not try that... but setting loglevel via append-GTA02 does not help Mar 28 20:30:55 Mar 28 22:28:22 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: Alignment trap: fsogsmd (696) PC=0x4000a600 Instr=0x07926005 Address=0x401c8012 FSR 0x013 Mar 28 20:31:08 all the rebuilt stuff :/ Mar 28 20:31:24 sometimes I had issues with unknown root device too.. but with POWER it booted everytime (sofar) Mar 28 20:31:39 let me try Mar 28 20:32:03 also boot after shutdown seems a bit more reliable then reboot Mar 28 20:32:42 * JaMa just got kernel panic too Mar 28 20:32:52 without POWER, booted with OK Mar 28 20:37:34 JaMa: just keep POWER pressed? or release and re-press? Mar 28 20:37:36 * mrmoku forgot Mar 28 20:38:14 leviathan, your defconfig is on o2s.ch? Mar 28 20:38:23 mom Mar 28 20:38:26 still need to Mar 28 20:38:54 keep until phone vibrates Mar 28 20:39:21 ok, did not vibrate... but phone is full of debug Mar 28 20:39:21 GNUtoo: now it is :-) Mar 28 20:39:28 ok exact address? Mar 28 20:39:33 (and is booting the wrong partition :/) Mar 28 20:39:37 http://ftp.o2s.ch/4mickey/ Mar 28 20:39:43 GNUtoo: http://ftp.o2s.ch/4mickey/ Mar 28 20:40:08 hmm Mar 28 20:41:12 ok Mar 28 20:42:08 mrmoku: seems like holding AUX instead of POWER :) Mar 28 20:43:08 for bearstech: http://xkcd.com/705/ Mar 28 20:43:36 RAM?? lol! Mar 28 20:43:37 JaMa: nop :P Mar 28 20:44:06 mickey|dinner, GNUtoo: http://ftp.o2s.ch/4mickey/susres Mar 28 20:44:10 JaMa: relinked to .9, reboot ... and it boots just fine Mar 28 20:44:21 mickey|dinner, GNUtoo: use this script for resume Mar 28 20:44:28 ok Mar 28 20:44:37 mrmoku: and with .10 you see unknown root? Mar 28 20:44:40 or something else? Mar 28 20:44:56 DocScrutinizer: hehe Mar 28 20:45:08 JaMa: with .10 it just boots the second partition Mar 28 20:45:42 leviathan, still no success Mar 28 20:45:55 wtf? Mar 28 20:46:09 http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commits/msm-gnuconform Mar 28 20:46:20 http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commit/48afbaf19428893b7aec0a385970f300c38300c3 Mar 28 20:46:23 same tree Mar 28 20:46:25 works for me! Mar 28 20:46:41 it somehow works because restarting xorgs wakes it Mar 28 20:46:54 uhm Mar 28 20:46:59 tried with the script? Mar 28 20:48:02 did you try the kernel image from: http://ftp.o2s.ch/4mickey/openmoko-boot.img Mar 28 20:48:16 what is .ubi? Mar 28 20:48:41 no Mar 28 20:48:43 my kernel Mar 28 20:48:52 try mine Mar 28 20:48:54 :) Mar 28 20:49:10 then we can be sure, thats in userspace, if it doesnt work ;-) Mar 28 20:50:52 argiris: an alternatife filesystem to jffs2 Mar 28 20:51:00 mrmoku: buildhost is back, will you move the git now? Mar 28 20:51:03 s/f/v Mar 28 20:51:24 what's CONFIG_HTC_PWRSINK=y ? Mar 28 20:51:41 Heinervdm: that has to be coordinated with Ainulindale Mar 28 20:51:45 as he has to switch DNS Mar 28 20:51:51 ah ok Mar 28 20:52:01 and I'm almost on my way to bed :P Mar 28 20:52:09 have to get up early tomorrow Mar 28 20:52:11 :) Mar 28 20:52:15 go to a clients site :/ Mar 28 20:52:24 after that I will do Mar 28 20:52:28 (if it is still up :P) Mar 28 20:53:21 :) Mar 28 20:53:55 mrmoku: any news on fundraiser project? ;-D Mar 28 20:54:08 heh... no Mar 28 21:00:26 leviathan, your kernel doesn't boot Mar 28 21:00:30 it reboots Mar 28 21:00:33 I'll compile it Mar 28 21:03:11 mrmoku, fyi .32.10 boots here in NAND (i just read backlog) Mar 28 21:03:59 JesusMcCloud: will try NAND tomorrow then Mar 28 21:05:02 mickey|dinner, well, it happens :P Mar 28 21:05:05 mrmoku, pong., Mar 28 21:05:29 TAsn: tomorrow I need a 'new kernel libphoneui.conf' from you :) Mar 28 21:05:33 i'm just saying i tried fresh flash on nand and an up-to-date system on sd and both works Mar 28 21:05:38 mrmoku, can't provide that Mar 28 21:05:53 not all the scenarios are there Mar 28 21:05:56 (new kernel) Mar 28 21:06:01 hmm Mar 28 21:06:20 missing in /etc/freesmartphone? Mar 28 21:06:25 yes Mar 28 21:06:29 we need to write them. Mar 28 21:06:47 ok Mar 28 21:06:58 will try to remember how I did the others :P Mar 28 21:07:04 :P Mar 28 21:07:12 which one is missing? Mar 28 21:09:17 TAsn: anyway... will take a look tomorrow... now I need some sleep :) Mar 28 21:09:20 gnight all Mar 28 21:09:34 night. Mar 28 21:09:38 mrmoku|away, many are missing. Mar 28 21:10:18 Weiss, Mar 28 21:10:26 [glamo-drm] Refusing to set mode while pixel clock is off. Mar 28 21:10:27 [drm:drm_crtc_helper_set_config] *ERROR* failed to set mode on crtc c7b38c00 Mar 28 21:10:34 I get this twice. Mar 28 21:10:50 How to reproduce: blank screen (using xset) Mar 28 21:10:52 suspend Mar 28 21:12:48 ah, ok Mar 28 21:12:58 I guess the screen was blanked when it went into suspend? Mar 28 21:14:08 what you describe should be fixed as of last weekend by http://git.bitwiz.org.uk/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d10368cf1c59d5b474a27bb81b09dbe03e1862f Mar 28 21:15:42 GNUtoo: wtf??? Mar 28 21:15:47 TAsn, how a bout a call to users to create mockups of a possible theme (i'd be willign to implement it).. i can't stand gry anymore and i want to push forward the theme contest... Mar 28 21:16:03 Weiss, thanks :P Mar 28 21:16:18 GNUtoo: it boots -.- Mar 28 21:16:27 JesusMcCloud, instead of the theme contest? sounds like a good idea :P Mar 28 21:16:29 http://ftp.o2s.ch/4mickey/openmoko-boot.img Mar 28 21:16:36 wget http://ftp.o2s.ch/4mickey/openmoko-boot.img Mar 28 21:16:45 fastboot boot openmoko-boot.img Mar 28 21:17:10 GNUtoo: you need ext3 rootfs Mar 28 21:17:12 >_< Mar 28 21:17:19 of course Mar 28 21:17:25 will be the problem Mar 28 21:17:33 compile it on your own Mar 28 21:17:36 will be the best Mar 28 21:17:44 and enable the needed kernel features Mar 28 21:17:47 TAsn, i've got another ace up my sleeve but i think it would be better if you send an email to the ml (since you are one of the core devs it will be 'official' if you post it on ml) Mar 28 21:17:49 like ext2 Mar 28 21:17:56 GNUtoo: I'll sleep now Mar 28 21:18:05 need to watch lecture tomorrow Mar 28 21:18:07 gn8 Mar 28 21:18:08 JesusMcCloud, instead of the theme contest? sounds like a good idea :P Mar 28 21:18:13 Do you want me to send that? ^ Mar 28 21:18:18 leviathan, ok Mar 28 21:18:22 TAsn: if you don't let the screen blank, but suspend manually, does it come up correctly? Mar 28 21:18:23 leviathan, usb0 not found Mar 28 21:18:27 on your defconfig Mar 28 21:18:28 Weiss, yes. Mar 28 21:18:45 TAsn, yup Mar 28 21:18:56 that's why I assumed it's related to blank Mar 28 21:19:03 uhm GNUtoo? Mar 28 21:19:14 did you copy the modules onto the sdcard? ^_^" Mar 28 21:19:31 because usbgadget is a module Mar 28 21:19:37 no Mar 28 21:19:41 ok I'll do it Mar 28 21:19:41 do Mar 28 21:19:44 ok Mar 28 21:19:48 I'll sleep now Mar 28 21:20:03 JesusMcCloud, sounds fair enough Mar 28 21:20:13 It'll take a day though Mar 28 21:20:19 good Mar 28 21:20:25 as I have to ask the other core team members for approval Mar 28 21:20:34 sure Mar 28 21:21:18 GNUtoo: gn8 Mar 28 21:21:21 mickey|dinner: gn8 Mar 28 21:21:35 bye Mar 28 21:21:40 good niht Mar 28 21:21:43 *night Mar 28 21:22:44 JesusMcCloud, if you are willing to implement themes, what about helping dos with the logo one? I'd love to have that one finished :D Mar 28 21:23:33 pespin, i'll have to check back with dos, but i am not sure if this is possible, since i dunno how he wants it to look Mar 28 21:24:48 JesusMcCloud, ok :) Mar 28 21:25:28 but i'll bug him about it, and if he thinks he has done enough to hand it over to someone else, i'll give ti a go Mar 28 21:26:36 Heinervdm, what's the status of the sim manager? Mar 28 21:26:51 TAsn: i haven't updated it Mar 28 21:27:00 and haven't worked on it Mar 28 21:27:11 so, what's the status? :P Mar 28 21:27:28 or more correctly Mar 28 21:27:28 It's in shr-u and it can import Contacts from SIM Mar 28 21:27:35 how do I run it? Mar 28 21:27:39 can't find it with mdbus Mar 28 21:27:40 what's the path? Mar 28 21:27:46 shr-settings -> other Mar 28 21:27:57 sec, will upgrade my phone Mar 28 21:28:17 TAsn: it's in org.phoneui -> .../Settings Mar 28 21:28:23 TAsn, you might not wanna drop the theme contest but add the possibility of mockups ? Mar 28 21:28:24 thanks :P Mar 28 21:28:33 JesusMcCloud, why not? Mar 28 21:28:45 I like the mockups idea better. Mar 28 21:28:49 It's more accessible. Mar 28 21:28:54 true Mar 28 21:29:01 true but? Mar 28 21:29:34 well *if* someone want to propose a theme it shoudl be possible aswell Mar 28 21:29:50 JesusMcCloud, ok, so I will extend the theme contest :P Mar 28 21:29:56 Heinervdm, very nice "loading" screen :) Mar 28 21:30:15 :) Mar 28 21:30:16 (i just wanna state again that i do *NOT* want a leather case) Mar 28 21:30:36 JesusMcCloud, I also do not want one Mar 28 21:30:39 I have one though :| Mar 28 21:30:56 good night, i'm going to sleep :) Mar 28 21:31:01 Heinervdm, btw, don't know if it's a "feature" or not Mar 28 21:31:06 Heinervdm, but it's *not* sorted :P Mar 28 21:31:22 the fr is already big enough, and it is already hard to brake... so why a leather case?! Mar 28 21:31:25 And does not include an index like in the contacts app. :| Mar 28 21:31:51 TAsn: i dropped the index :P Mar 28 21:32:02 why? Mar 28 21:32:22 could have been nice Mar 28 21:32:23 TAsn: index was a bit more complicated Mar 28 21:32:26 :P Mar 28 21:32:31 what about sorting? :P Mar 28 21:32:32 we can add it Mar 28 21:32:46 it's not sorted, because sorting is complicated too ;) Mar 28 21:33:11 :) Mar 28 21:33:19 btw, they are sorted ;) Mar 28 21:33:23 Yeah Mar 28 21:33:27 according to sim index :P Mar 28 21:33:30 the are orderd by ther SIM index Mar 28 21:33:40 like I had in my old motorolla startec Mar 28 21:34:03 I can change that :) Mar 28 21:35:08 Btw, as I said somewhere (I don't remember where) Mar 28 21:35:22 we really need a messages sim manager Mar 28 21:35:53 I read that Mar 28 21:36:01 but i don't think one needs that Mar 28 21:36:25 why should i save my messages on sim? Mar 28 21:37:41 bs. a simple script to readout the max one dozen, and to erase - done with sms on sim crap Mar 28 21:39:11 i think that's a one-time thing, you wan't to import your sms now but never in the future Mar 28 21:39:49 so a small commandline script would be enough Mar 28 21:39:56 not even import Mar 28 21:40:55 it's not really the case Mar 28 21:41:03 I'm talking about people who use two phones Mar 28 21:41:12 one that saves messages on sim (for some reason) Mar 28 21:41:23 even not another phone but a weird distro Mar 28 21:41:26 but yeah, exactly. No recent phone bothers about sms on sim. Even on maemo nobody even started complaining they can't access sim sms. And maemo N900 users start whining about virtually everything Mar 28 21:41:43 and then he gets to shr and has a full sim. Mar 28 21:42:05 DocScrutinizer, I think sim cards are evil. :P Mar 28 21:42:37 i will go to bed now :) good night :P Mar 28 21:44:42 SHR: 03zimmermann 07shr-settings * rdac4e8d127a2 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_device_timeouts.py: shr_device_timeouts: show timeouts ordered by value Mar 28 21:44:46 SHR: 03zimmermann 07shr-settings * rf3193a550784 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_clock.py: shr_clock: fix order of datestring it needs to be: [[[[[YY]YY]MM]DD]hh]mm[.ss] Mar 28 21:57:26 ~seen raster Mar 28 21:57:28 raster <~raster@enlightenment/developer/raster> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 8h 31m 36s ago, saying: 'and.. time to snuzzz!'. Mar 28 21:58:06 good night Mar 28 22:08:44 is anyone using paroli with the latest shr testing image? Mar 28 22:42:55 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * reda9a83f8d88 10/zhone2/src/ (deviceagent.vala main.vala): zhone2: handle idlenotifier and dim display Mar 28 23:24:26 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rcf793e3facd8 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsodeviced: kernel_idle: react to all events; this fixes idlenotifier on htcdream and similar devices Mar 28 23:45:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2619482c3768 10/fsodeviced/conf/htc_qualcomm_dream/fsodeviced.conf: fsodeviced: conf/htc_qualcomm_dream: configure buttons to report via Input Mar 28 23:50:39 mickey|dinner: busy eh Mar 28 23:51:00 yep Mar 28 23:51:23 in about a week i have modern open source phone again ;) Mar 28 23:51:36 heh :-) Mar 28 23:51:43 only with rudimentary UI, but i'm happy anyways Mar 28 23:51:56 and i can go from there Mar 28 23:52:41 it's so good to work on app level again Mar 28 23:52:53 i was crazy to stay away for so long Mar 28 23:53:10 but now things will be fine Mar 28 23:54:25 and when i'm eating my own dog food again, we can talk about improving things like resource handling, audio stuff, et. al. Mar 28 23:54:43 or rather get things done instead of talking ;) Mar 28 23:57:35 no more tonight though Mar 28 23:57:36 g'night Mar 28 23:59:23 n8 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:09:14 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:44:15 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:59:57 2010