**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 02 02:59:57 2010
Apr 02 05:40:05 <leviathan> mickey|zzZZzz: http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~davidlan/downloads/OE/htcdream/
Apr 02 06:54:17 <JaMa> morning
Apr 02 07:28:46 <blindcoder> moin
Apr 02 07:43:40 <blindcoder> for the record: Android sucks so badly that even CERN would be afraid of touching it
Apr 02 07:47:03 <blindcoder> apart from the now-seemingly-everywhere capacitive display (which is a hardware design inherently broken), it's tied so hard into a google account that you can't even open the phonebook without sending it to google
Apr 02 07:47:47 <alexxy> JaMa: mrmoku|away: TAsn: any ideas why intone doesnt work after latest upgrade?
Apr 02 07:47:48 <blindcoder> file transfer via bluetooth? oh look, we forgot to add an obex stack to the OS, sorry
Apr 02 07:48:11 <JaMa> alexxy: elementary bug
Apr 02 07:48:28 <alexxy> JaMa: any ideas how to repair it
Apr 02 07:48:29 <alexxy> ?
Apr 02 07:49:41 <JaMa> don't know any easy sollution (I would have push it if I had one).. maybe it's already fixed upstream..
Apr 02 07:49:51 <JaMa> didn't have enough time yesterday to debug it more
Apr 02 07:50:39 <alexxy> JaMa: can you built latest version?
Apr 02 07:51:53 <JaMa> svn log doesn't show anything interesting with elementary :/
Apr 02 07:52:11 <JaMa> I'll build it localy
Apr 02 07:52:36 <JaMa> but I don't expect it to be fixed just with EFL bump.. someone has to report it, send patch upstream..
Apr 02 08:05:20 * JaMa is looking for volunteer to fix packagekit opkg backend
Apr 02 08:05:43 <JaMa> the rest of recipes included in SHR is building just fine again..
Apr 02 08:25:28 <graziano> ehi the new track skin is awesome, is there any info about when it will become live?
Apr 02 08:36:39 * DocScrutinizer wonders how elementary can break ringtone
Apr 02 08:37:51 <JaMa> DocScrutinizer: if you're refering to intone then it's not ringtone but application (music player written in elementary)
Apr 02 08:38:09 <DocScrutinizer> oops
Apr 02 08:38:19 <DocScrutinizer> no coffee yet
Apr 02 08:38:33 <JaMa> alexxy: with latest EFL still the same..
Apr 02 08:38:41 <JaMa> #0  0x409c757c in strncat () from /lib/libc.so.6
Apr 02 08:38:42 <JaMa> #1  0x40058d2c in _item_realize () from /usr/lib/libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05.so.0
Apr 02 09:37:57 <TAsnn-Laptop> :P
Apr 02 09:38:02 <TAsnn-Laptop> Had to group em.
Apr 02 09:41:42 <Q-Master> TAsn: again phoneui hates "Cell phone" fields.
Apr 02 09:43:27 <TAsnn-Laptop> Q-Master, have you defined "Cell phone" as a phonenumber type?
Apr 02 09:43:33 <TAsnn-Laptop> if not, it should hate it.
Apr 02 09:44:36 <Q-Master> TAsn: are you kidding me?
Apr 02 09:44:40 <TAsnn-Laptop> I'm not.
Apr 02 09:44:59 <TAsnn-Laptop> I don't have frameworkd/moko near me atm (I'm at the kitchen while the moko is in my room)
Apr 02 09:45:04 <TAsnn-Laptop> but it should be something like:
Apr 02 09:45:22 <Q-Master> TAsn: As I've told. It hates "Cell phone" as was before. It shows it as a crappy list of unknown symbols.
Apr 02 09:45:32 <TAsnn-Laptop> Q-Master, OH.
Apr 02 09:45:54 <TAsnn-Laptop> Q-Master, what version of phoneui-shr?
Apr 02 09:46:04 <Q-Master> TAsn: but now only in phone selection menu if contact has several phone numbers/
Apr 02 09:46:14 <Q-Master> 1 sec
Apr 02 09:46:25 <TAsnn-Laptop> oh, in phone selection menu?
Apr 02 09:46:36 <TAsnn-Laptop> that's ok, it just means mrmoku was being a noob :P
Apr 02 09:46:38 <TAsnn-Laptop> mrmoku, ^
Apr 02 09:46:41 <mrmoku> nah
Apr 02 09:46:53 <mrmoku> TAsnn-Laptop: tell me news...not old stuff ;)
Apr 02 09:46:54 <Q-Master> mrmoku: ^^^
Apr 02 09:47:12 <TAsnn-Laptop> :P
Apr 02 09:47:29 <mrmoku> Q-Master: let me add 'Cell phone' as phonenumber field and try...
Apr 02 09:47:47 <TAsnn-Laptop> mrmoku, do you handle GLists in that screen?
Apr 02 09:48:00 <TAsnn-Laptop> I think that's the issue
Apr 02 09:48:17 <TAsnn-Laptop> That you don't handle GLists when "Cell phone" has more than one value.
Apr 02 09:48:34 <TAsnn-Laptop> Q-Master, correct if I'm wrong, but isn't that when happens?
Apr 02 09:48:35 <Q-Master> mrmoku: add several ones per contact.
Apr 02 09:48:44 <TAsnn-Laptop> I rock! :P
Apr 02 09:49:05 <TAsnn-Laptop> This just shows you how experienced I am in introducing bugs :P
Apr 02 09:49:06 <Q-Master> seems si\
Apr 02 09:49:10 <Q-Master> so
Apr 02 09:50:05 <TAsnn-Laptop> mrmoku, are you trying to get a better bugs/line-of-code than mine? :P
Apr 02 09:50:35 <Q-Master> bugmakers. 8)
Apr 02 09:51:10 <TAsnn-Laptop> brb
Apr 02 09:51:22 <Q-Master> coward. 8)
Apr 02 09:51:49 <mrmoku> TAsn-Laptop: MDBUS2> org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.AddField 'Cell phone' phonenumber
Apr 02 09:51:52 <mrmoku> [ERR]: Need 2 params, supplied 3
Apr 02 09:51:53 <mrmoku> what's that?
Apr 02 09:52:22 <TAsn-Laptop> mrmoku, sounds like a bug in mdbus
Apr 02 09:52:25 <TAsn-Laptop> try in terminal
Apr 02 09:52:28 <TAsn-Laptop> should work.
Apr 02 09:52:29 <mrmoku> yeah
Apr 02 09:52:31 <TAsn-Laptop> or maybe
Apr 02 09:52:31 <mrmoku> that works
Apr 02 09:52:32 <TAsn-Laptop> try
Apr 02 09:52:33 <TAsn-Laptop> ""
Apr 02 09:52:36 <TAsn-Laptop> instead of ''
Apr 02 09:52:37 <mickey|zzZZzz> do you have a stray space character?
Apr 02 09:52:48 <mickeyl> morning, btw.
Apr 02 09:53:15 <mickeyl> spaetz: yes, bash completion would be awesome, have to take a look how that works
Apr 02 09:54:15 <mrmoku> Q-Master: works just nice... as expected ;)
Apr 02 09:54:29 <mrmoku> mickeyl: morning... what is a stray space char?
Apr 02 09:55:14 <mickeyl> aah wait
Apr 02 09:55:17 <mickeyl> i think i know
Apr 02 09:55:28 <Q-Master> mrmoku: I'll upgrade and recheck now
Apr 02 09:55:29 <mickeyl> this was the interactive cmdline, right?
Apr 02 09:55:34 <mrmoku> yep
Apr 02 09:55:36 <mickeyl> ok
Apr 02 09:55:39 <mickeyl> that's a bug in mdbus
Apr 02 09:55:43 <mickeyl> it has no idea about 'Cell Phone'
Apr 02 09:55:51 <mickeyl> it treats it as two parms
Apr 02 09:55:54 <mickeyl> can you open a bug?
Apr 02 09:55:55 <mrmoku> Q-Master: ListFields shows 'Cell Phone' with type phonenumber?
Apr 02 09:56:02 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ok
Apr 02 09:56:40 <Q-Master> * check_data_file_clashes: Package alsa-states wants to install file /etc/asound.state
Apr 02 09:56:40 <Q-Master>         But that file is already provided by package  * check_data_file_clashes: alsa-scenarii-shr
Apr 02 09:56:40 <Q-Master>  * check_data_file_clashes: Package libc6-dev wants to install file /usr/include/scsi/scsi.h
Apr 02 09:56:40 <Q-Master>         But that file is already provided by package  * check_data_file_clashes: linux-libc-headers-dev
Apr 02 09:57:32 <Q-Master> root@om-gta02:~# opkg upgrade
Apr 02 09:57:32 <Q-Master> Upgrading alsa-state on root from 0.2.0-r14.4 to 0.2.0-r15.4...
Apr 02 09:57:32 <Q-Master> Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//all/alsa-state_0.2.0-r15.4_all.ipk.
Apr 02 09:57:32 <Q-Master> Installing alsa-states (0.2.0-r15.4) to root...                                               
Apr 02 09:57:32 <Q-Master> Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//om-gta02/alsa-states_0.2.0-r15.4_om-gta02.ipk.
Apr 02 09:57:37 <Q-Master> what's that?
Apr 02 10:05:00 <mrmoku> Q-Master: root@om-gta02:~# mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.ListFields                      
Apr 02 10:05:03 <mrmoku> ( { "Phone":"phonenumber", "Surname":"name", "Name":"name", "Affiliation":"text", "Photo":"photo", "Work phone":"phonenumber", "Note":"text", "E-mail":"email", "Birthday":"date", "Mobile phone":"phonenumber", "Address":"address", "Cell phone":"phonenumber", "Nickname":"name", "Home phone":"phonenumber" } )
Apr 02 10:05:44 <Q-Master> root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts org.freesmartphone.PIM.Fields.ListFields
Apr 02 10:05:44 <Q-Master> ( { "Home cell phone":"phonenumber", "Surname":"name", "Name":"name", "Work cell phone":"phonenumber", "Phone":"phonenumber", "Photo":"photo", "Work phone":"phonenumber", "Mobile phone":"phonenumber", "Note":"text", "Affiliation":"text", "Birthday":"date", "Work e-mail":"email", "E-mail":"email", "Address":"address", "Cell phone":"phonenumber", "Nickname":"name", "Home phone":"phonenumber" } )
Apr 02 10:06:11 <mrmoku> Q-Master: then there is something else wrong :/
Apr 02 10:06:43 <mrmoku> ahh... 
Apr 02 10:06:49 * mrmoku reread backlog :P;
Apr 02 10:07:26 <mrmoku> Q-Master: yeah right you are
Apr 02 10:07:27 <Q-Master> mrmoku: and everything is the same. I open contacts, press call. get window with 2 buttons. One contains some weird symbols and the second contains the "Phone" field number
Apr 02 10:07:31 <mrmoku> and /me is a noob :P
Apr 02 10:07:37 <mrmoku> Q-Master: will fix
Apr 02 10:07:55 <Q-Master> mrmoku:  but this contact has 3 numbers, not 2.
Apr 02 10:08:41 <mrmoku> yeah, 2 cell phone and one other, right?
Apr 02 10:08:53 <Q-Master> yep
Apr 02 10:34:14 <JaMa> xserver-1.8 in shr :)
Apr 02 10:35:56 <JaMa> TAsn: any hint? latest EFL from today.. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/196665/
Apr 02 10:36:39 <TAsn> nope
Apr 02 10:36:42 <TAsn> but looks like a 
Apr 02 10:36:45 <TAsn> rm -rf .e
Apr 02 10:36:47 <TAsn> will fix it.
Apr 02 10:37:00 <JaMa> TAsn: rm -rf ~/.efreet :)
Apr 02 10:37:11 <TAsn> same thing :P
Apr 02 10:37:47 <JaMa> but maybe that's the problem, with desktop cache (some shr bug)
Apr 02 10:38:34 <TAsn> It looks like there was an issue
Apr 02 10:38:36 <TAsn> and they fixed it.
Apr 02 10:39:24 <JaMa> TAsn: your .efreet is link somewhere to .e? or what do you mean as "same thing"?
Apr 02 10:39:56 <TAsn> same thing: they both show when you write .e <TAB> :P
Apr 02 10:40:15 <JaMa> hehe
Apr 02 10:40:17 <TAsn> Or in other words, that's what I meant (removing the configs)
Apr 02 10:41:01 <JaMa> I'm not sure what's in .e/e/appshadow and .efreet/*.cache (looks quite the same to me), but nvm
Apr 02 10:42:07 <JaMa> and the error is from calling efreet_desktop_cache_create and it's still there even after removing .efreet :/
Apr 02 10:42:48 <TAsn> JaMa, I remember reading something about it in e-devel ml
Apr 02 10:42:49 <TAsn> sec
Apr 02 10:44:38 <TAsn> ok nvm
Apr 02 10:44:41 <TAsn> I was wrong.
Apr 02 10:45:03 <TAsn> or more correctly: I was right but I can't seem to find it in my inbox :P
Apr 02 10:46:32 <mrmoku> Q-Master: here you are :)
Apr 02 10:47:17 * Martix just booted his fancy new Touch Book
Apr 02 10:47:29 <CIA-32> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r6eddcefa371a 10/src/util/ui-utils-contacts.c: ui-utils-contacts.c: fix number selection for multiple numbers of the same type
Apr 02 10:47:31 <Martix> and want put Enlightenment on it :-)
Apr 02 10:48:04 <mrmoku> Q-Master: convince JaMa to build it :P
Apr 02 10:48:07 * mrmoku lunch
Apr 02 10:48:09 <mrmoku> bbl
Apr 02 10:48:18 <Q-Master> JaMa: build здя
Apr 02 10:48:20 <Q-Master> plz
Apr 02 10:51:05 * JaMa killled xorg build in order to restart build with libphone-ui-shr
Apr 02 10:57:56 <blindcoder> JaMa: new phoneui?
Apr 02 10:58:13 <blindcoder> JaMa: does it fix "crash when pressing call and having two 'Cell phone' or 'Mobile phone' entries"?
Apr 02 10:58:27 <blindcoder> argh
Apr 02 10:58:38 <JaMa> blindcoder: ask mrmoku
Apr 02 10:58:38 <blindcoder> nevermind, backlog helps prevent show of stupidity
Apr 02 10:58:44 <TAsn> blindcoder, mostly :P
Apr 02 10:58:58 <TAsn> blindcoder, JaMa: From the log, the answer looks like a definite yes :P
Apr 02 11:00:18 <blindcoder> thanks, I'll now continue my work on getting android to a usable state without stripping naked in front of google
Apr 02 11:06:50 <DocScrutinizer> blindcoder: do that in front of google streetview camcar - better effect ;-P
Apr 02 11:09:17 <blindcoder> true :)
Apr 02 11:42:07 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, hi we have access to the backlight device trough fb_info,so if you also need something backlight ask,but I'm trying to get msmfb_info in the ioctl function
Apr 02 11:42:55 <GNUtoo> maybe with container_of
Apr 02 11:50:08 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: ok, sounds good
Apr 02 11:50:11 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, how do I test blank and unblank? I write 0 and 4 to some sys files?
Apr 02 11:50:24 <mickeyl> no, you have to use ioctls as well
Apr 02 11:50:29 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 11:50:31 <GNUtoo> python?
Apr 02 11:50:32 <mickeyl> you can use the small python script
Apr 02 11:50:34 <mickeyl> yeah
Apr 02 11:50:36 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 11:50:42 <mickeyl> thinking about that...
Apr 02 11:50:49 <mickeyl> i guess a small console utili would be cool
Apr 02 11:51:00 <mickeyl> $ ioctl 0x4512 2
Apr 02 11:51:03 <mickeyl> or something like that :)
Apr 02 11:51:11 <GNUtoo> lol would be nice
Apr 02 11:51:24 <GNUtoo> but 2 is fd?
Apr 02 11:51:32 <mickeyl> ah wait
Apr 02 11:51:35 <mickeyl> we need three params
Apr 02 11:51:46 <mickeyl> ioctl /dev/foo <num> <op>
Apr 02 11:52:12 <mickeyl> hmm, give me 15 minutes
Apr 02 11:54:30 <Q-Master> Upgrading alsa-state on root from 0.2.0-r14.4 to 0.2.0-r15.4...
Apr 02 11:54:30 <Q-Master> Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//all/alsa-state_0.2.0-r15.4_all.ipk.
Apr 02 11:54:30 <Q-Master> Installing alsa-states (0.2.0-r15.4) to root...
Apr 02 11:54:30 <Q-Master> Downloading http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//om-gta02/alsa-states_0.2.0-r15.4_om-gta02.ipk.
Apr 02 11:54:34 <Q-Master> JaMa: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Apr 02 11:55:56 <Q-Master>  * check_data_file_clashes: Package alsa-states wants to install file /etc/asound.state
Apr 02 11:55:56 <Q-Master>         But that file is already provided by package  * check_data_file_clashes: alsa-scenarii-shr
Apr 02 11:56:10 <Q-Master> JaMa: ^^^^^^
Apr 02 11:57:23 <TAsn> JaMa, kill alsa-scenarii-shr please :P ^^^^ 
Apr 02 11:58:07 <GNUtoo> anyway it's compiling
Apr 02 11:58:16 <GNUtoo> will take some time
Apr 02 11:58:48 <GNUtoo> make -j3 is nice
Apr 02 11:59:21 <GNUtoo> booting
Apr 02 11:59:49 <Q-Master> GNUtoo: -j5 better. 8)
Apr 02 12:01:03 <GNUtoo> Q-Master, I've only dual core
Apr 02 12:01:12 <GNUtoo> not quad 
Apr 02 12:09:12 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r851245ec1e6a 10/tools/mioctl/ (14 files in 2 dirs): mioctl: utility to call ioctls on command line
Apr 02 12:09:18 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: here we are
Apr 02 12:09:32 <mickeyl> i'll create a recipe for OE now
Apr 02 12:09:33 <GNUtoo> thanks a lot
Apr 02 12:09:42 <mickeyl> np
Apr 02 12:09:48 <mickeyl> might come in handy at times
Apr 02 12:21:51 <DocScrutinizer> moin
Apr 02 12:32:02 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, NOTE: Running task 3633 of 4042
Apr 02 12:32:10 <JaMa> TAsn: they're not in new images.. it's just crap on Q-Master's disk
Apr 02 12:32:22 <GNUtoo> should I wait until completion to bitbake your vala uttility
Apr 02 12:32:30 <JaMa> TAsn: already killed with ffalarms upgrade...
Apr 02 12:32:32 <GNUtoo> or can I try with python for now?
Apr 02 12:32:41 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: can use python as well
Apr 02 12:32:45 <mickeyl> it's the same
Apr 02 12:32:52 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 12:33:03 <JaMa> TAsn: and yes.. maybe there is still some package somewhere, depending on that...
Apr 02 12:33:05 <GNUtoo> >>> fcntl.ioctl( fd , 0x4611 , 0x0 )
Apr 02 12:33:13 <GNUtoo> IOError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument
Apr 02 12:33:45 <JaMa> TAsn: but not in current -lite, -full SHR image
Apr 02 12:33:47 <GNUtoo> fd = os.open("/dev/fb0",0) btw
Apr 02 12:34:42 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: right
Apr 02 12:34:56 <mickeyl> msmfb does not implement it yet
Apr 02 12:35:07 <GNUtoo> If the ioctl was not present the kenrel would tell it
Apr 02 12:35:23 <GNUtoo> I see nothing in dmesg
Apr 02 12:35:40 <GNUtoo> I just implemented that ioctl
Apr 02 12:35:44 <mickeyl> ah
Apr 02 12:35:57 <mickeyl> do you handle all args?
Apr 02 12:36:16 <mickeyl> 0x0 is for unblank, 0x4 is for blank
Apr 02 12:36:46 <GNUtoo> http://pastebin.com/ZF5hQmak
Apr 02 12:37:21 <JaMa> Q-Master: please read log..
Apr 02 12:37:29 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, no just blank and unblank
Apr 02 12:37:38 <GNUtoo> so 0 and 4
Apr 02 12:37:40 <GNUtoo> like in fb.h
Apr 02 12:37:41 <JaMa> Q-Master: between your quit and now()
Apr 02 12:37:45 <GNUtoo> I'll try sysfs nodes
Apr 02 12:37:59 <mickeyl> hmm, you're right
Apr 02 12:38:11 <mickeyl> it's as if they were handled elsewhere
Apr 02 12:38:18 <mickeyl> msmfb should complain about it
Apr 02 12:38:20 <mickeyl> hmm
Apr 02 12:38:22 <mickeyl> strange
Apr 02 12:39:21 <GNUtoo> mmm
Apr 02 12:39:53 <Q-Master> JaMa: don't see anything in txt log
Apr 02 12:40:18 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, what about /sys/class/backlight/<backlight>/bl_power ?
Apr 02 12:40:27 <GNUtoo> shouldn't we implement them there too
Apr 02 12:40:35 <GNUtoo> ah no
Apr 02 12:40:46 <GNUtoo> backlight and pannel are different
Apr 02 12:41:51 <mickeyl> well
Apr 02 12:42:05 <mickeyl> on other kernels bl_power works similar to FBIOBLANK
Apr 02 12:42:16 <mickeyl> but i'm happy with either one
Apr 02 12:42:32 <mickeyl> it's important though that brightness == 0 is decoupled from pane deinit
Apr 02 12:42:37 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 12:42:45 <mickeyl> since on the dream you can still see the display w/ brightness 0
Apr 02 12:42:51 <mickeyl> on most other systems you can't
Apr 02 12:42:55 <GNUtoo> for now it is
Apr 02 12:42:56 <mickeyl> so we should keep it that way
Apr 02 12:43:02 <mickeyl> yep
Apr 02 12:45:21 <TAsn> JaMa, yo,u rock :P thanksp
Apr 02 12:47:38 <Q-Master> рт
Apr 02 12:47:51 <Q-Master> hm... big troubles with xorg
Apr 02 12:48:00 <Q-Master> it is not loading after update
Apr 02 12:48:11 <Q-Master> (EE) module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (7)
Apr 02 12:48:22 <Q-Master> and so on
Apr 02 12:51:07 <JaMa> ah...
Apr 02 12:51:19 <JaMa> xf86-drivers need PR bump.. mmt
Apr 02 12:52:05 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I think something is wrong in python code
Apr 02 12:52:30 <GNUtoo> I'll try with your uttility or with C
Apr 02 12:52:36 <mickeyl> ok, try mioctl
Apr 02 12:54:33 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, http://pastebin.com/C4x5E1rS
Apr 02 12:55:45 <mickeyl> ah, right, fso2-demo-image does not install any desktop files
Apr 02 12:55:48 <mickeyl> just comment this line out
Apr 02 12:55:49 <JaMa> Q-Master: fix is building, thanks for quick report
Apr 02 12:55:57 <Q-Master> ok
Apr 02 12:55:59 <mickeyl> oh and while you're there:
Apr 02 12:56:24 <mickeyl> one more change
Apr 02 12:56:34 <mickeyl> (uncommited as it only applys to dream atm.)
Apr 02 12:56:42 <mickeyl> +    # remove devices script; we are using devtmpfs
Apr 02 12:56:43 <mickeyl> +    rm -f ./etc/init.d/devices
Apr 02 12:57:04 <mrmoku> TAsn: in libphone-ui we have stuff like this for example:
Apr 02 12:57:06 <mrmoku> phoneui_utils_contact_delete(const char *path, void (*callback) (GError *, gpointer), void *data)
Apr 02 12:57:08 <mickeyl> otherwise you get wrong devices
Apr 02 12:57:37 <mrmoku> TAsn: callbacks change with libfso-glib... 
Apr 02 12:57:45 <TAsn> oh really?
Apr 02 12:57:46 <TAsn> what to?
Apr 02 12:58:03 <mrmoku> (GSource *source, GAsyncResult *res, gpointer data)
Apr 02 12:58:08 <mrmoku> _all_ of them :)
Apr 02 12:58:09 <GNUtoo> where?
Apr 02 12:58:12 <GNUtoo> in the recipe?
Apr 02 12:58:25 <TAsn> mrmoku, I don't care then, we will conform to the old format which is better.
Apr 02 12:58:29 <mrmoku> TAsn: then you call the ..._finish function with res to get the resiult
Apr 02 12:58:41 <TAsn> mrmoku, we'll do that stuff ourselves
Apr 02 12:58:48 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: yes, in fso-image.inc
Apr 02 12:58:50 <mrmoku> TAsn: yeah, that's what I wanted to tell you... going to wrap that in libphone-ui
Apr 02 12:58:50 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 12:58:51 <TAsn> and call the callback function as we should.
Apr 02 12:58:57 <TAsn> mrmoku, sure thing. :P
Apr 02 12:59:00 <mrmoku> k
Apr 02 12:59:45 <GNUtoo> should I INC_PR the file?
Apr 02 12:59:52 <mickeyl> not necessary
Apr 02 12:59:58 <mickeyl> image files will be reread 
Apr 02 13:00:06 <mickeyl> every time you build
Apr 02 13:00:34 <GNUtoo> ok,once I had issues with tasks<->machine where it wasn't taken into account
Apr 02 13:08:38 <GNUtoo> http://pastebin.com/ayjarZYR
Apr 02 13:08:48 <GNUtoo> I'll try to fix it
Apr 02 13:10:52 <GNUtoo> not in deploy ipk dir
Apr 02 13:13:31 <GNUtoo> I'll bitbake update-modules
Apr 02 13:18:32 <JaMa> Q-Master: can you upgrade and confirm?
Apr 02 13:21:57 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r892b9dde5751 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device: add signal DirectionalEvent( sii )
Apr 02 13:22:50 <mrmoku> playya: do I still have to pass me the proxy as userdata for the _finish call in the callback or is that fixed meanwhile?
Apr 02 13:23:19 <playya> no. not yet. 
Apr 02 13:23:31 <playya> i played with my pre, sorry :/
Apr 02 13:25:05 <mrmoku> playya: np
Apr 02 13:25:40 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I wonder if the ioctl are mapped to /dev/fb0
Apr 02 13:25:48 <GNUtoo> in C the ioctl also fail
Apr 02 13:26:37 <mickeyl> hmm
Apr 02 13:26:49 <mickeyl> iirc the ioctl interface does not intercept ioctls depending on type
Apr 02 13:27:56 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, if ioctl was not present it would have printed unknow ioctl
Apr 02 13:28:08 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I also added a print for when it was called
Apr 02 13:28:12 <GNUtoo> so it would have also printed
Apr 02 13:28:44 <Q-Master> mrmoku: everything is ok.
Apr 02 13:31:52 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: you see me clueless :/
Apr 02 13:34:19 <GNUtoo> I'll be back later
Apr 02 13:37:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2c5d52878bc1 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel_input/plugin.vala: 
Apr 02 13:37:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: kernel_input: handle relative events
Apr 02 13:37:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: This is a preliminary way to handle things like trackballs and joysticks
Apr 02 13:37:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: in scenarios that lack a proper display server taking over these events.
Apr 02 13:49:16 <mrmoku> Q-Master: :)
Apr 02 14:11:15 <GNUtoo> hi mickeyl libpam_misc.so.0 is missing
Apr 02 14:11:43 <mickeyl> for what?
Apr 02 14:11:45 <mickeyl> from waht?
Apr 02 14:12:31 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, from your fso2-image
Apr 02 14:12:44 <GNUtoo> I wonder what's the best way to solve this problem
Apr 02 14:12:47 <GNUtoo> I can't login
Apr 02 14:12:53 <mickeyl> hmm
Apr 02 14:12:57 <mickeyl> doesn't sound like an fso2 problem
Apr 02 14:13:03 <mickeyl> sounds like someone broke OE
Apr 02 14:13:07 <GNUtoo> ah ok
Apr 02 14:13:10 <GNUtoo> again? lol
Apr 02 14:13:28 <GNUtoo> I thought it was an image problem
Apr 02 14:13:44 <mickeyl> unlikely
Apr 02 14:13:48 <GNUtoo> some days ago I bitbaken 2 images and login worked(but not x-window-manager)
Apr 02 14:13:52 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 14:14:03 <mickeyl> where would you expect this lib to be?
Apr 02 14:14:04 <GNUtoo> is there a way to fix that manually?
Apr 02 14:14:20 <GNUtoo> in the rootfs somewhere
Apr 02 14:14:22 <GNUtoo> it's not
Apr 02 14:14:32 <GNUtoo> tar tvjpf ./shr-fso2-demo-image-eglibc-ipk--20100402-htcdream.rootfs.tar.bz2 | grep pam => nothing
Apr 02 14:14:46 <mickeyl> same here
Apr 02 14:14:49 <mickeyl> and i can login fine
Apr 02 14:14:53 <GNUtoo> ah
Apr 02 14:14:54 <mickeyl> i don't have pam
Apr 02 14:15:02 <mickeyl> never used it
Apr 02 14:15:03 <GNUtoo> login: root
Apr 02 14:15:18 <GNUtoo> and then it says :
Apr 02 14:15:30 <GNUtoo> /bin/login: error while loading shared libraries:
Apr 02 14:15:46 <GNUtoo> libpam_misc.so.0:
Apr 02 14:15:50 <mickeyl> uh oh
Apr 02 14:15:51 <GNUtoo> etc...
Apr 02 14:16:04 <mickeyl> someone played with login settings, busybox, or what not
Apr 02 14:16:16 <mickeyl> perhaps you should use DISTRO=minimal
Apr 02 14:16:23 <mickeyl> i don't know the scary things angstrom does
Apr 02 14:16:25 <mickeyl> and shr includes angstrom
Apr 02 14:17:08 <GNUtoo> isn't minimal derived from angstrom?
Apr 02 14:17:14 <GNUtoo> micro is not
Apr 02 14:17:23 <GNUtoo> but micro has strange directory structure
Apr 02 14:17:27 <mickeyl> neither is minimal
Apr 02 14:17:30 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 14:17:50 <mickeyl> some months ago i have refactored angstromisms back into sane-*.inc
Apr 02 14:17:55 <mickeyl> then derived minimal to use those incs
Apr 02 14:18:03 <mickeyl> in order to make OE less angstrom-specific
Apr 02 14:18:07 <mickeyl> and make it more useful for other distros
Apr 02 14:18:17 <GNUtoo> login is not from busybox
Apr 02 14:18:22 <GNUtoo> login -> login.util-linux-ng
Apr 02 14:18:27 <GNUtoo> which I bet require pam
Apr 02 14:18:32 <mickeyl> ah, i noticed many changes there in the last weeks
Apr 02 14:18:36 <mickeyl> that's probably what broke it
Apr 02 14:18:40 <mickeyl> missing dependencies or so
Apr 02 14:18:50 <mickeyl> give minimal a try
Apr 02 14:18:53 <mickeyl> it is more predictable
Apr 02 14:20:31 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, my build system is not fast...it's a pentium M 2GHZ@less_than_2ghz_cause_heat
Apr 02 14:20:38 <GNUtoo> but it's on 24h/24
Apr 02 14:21:15 <GNUtoo> else I've an athlon X2 or something like that
Apr 02 14:21:29 <GNUtoo> but it's not on 24h/24 and need hard disk change to host oe builds
Apr 02 14:21:40 <mickeyl> we'll have an autobuilder soon
Apr 02 14:21:54 <GNUtoo> ok nice
Apr 02 14:22:05 <Bastian> hi
Apr 02 14:22:19 <mickeyl> yo Bastian 
Apr 02 14:22:34 <mickeyl> alian got a dream
Apr 02 14:22:41 <Bastian> which?
Apr 02 14:22:41 <mickeyl> alain was active in openezx 
Apr 02 14:22:52 <mickeyl> i hope he helps us w/ fso2
Apr 02 14:22:56 <GNUtoo> wow nice
Apr 02 14:23:05 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, fixed 
Apr 02 14:23:08 <mickeyl> (sorry, that was for GNUtoo )
Apr 02 14:23:09 <GNUtoo> rm login
Apr 02 14:23:09 <Bastian> i don't know openzy
Apr 02 14:23:16 <GNUtoo> ln -s busybox login
Apr 02 14:23:27 <GNUtoo> I was lucky that login was still compiled in busybox
Apr 02 14:23:31 <mickeyl> heh, cool
Apr 02 14:23:41 <Bastian> that is great
Apr 02 14:24:36 <mickeyl> Apr 29 02:23:10 htcdream user.warn kernel: [137183.307647] opkg invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0, oom_adj=0
Apr 02 14:24:37 <mickeyl> argh
Apr 02 14:24:38 <Bastian> i'm upgrading my pc-system because of on too old gtk. abter upgrade i hope i can install valide
Apr 02 14:24:48 <mickeyl> Apr 29 02:23:10 htcdream user.err kernel: [137183.296997] Out of memory: kill process 189 (dbus-daemon) score 189 or a child
Apr 02 14:24:51 <mickeyl> *sigh*
Apr 02 14:24:56 <mickeyl> ~lart oom killer
Apr 02 14:24:57 * apt blasts oom killer with a huge firehose then strangles oom killer with it
Apr 02 14:25:02 <mickeyl> need to disable that
Apr 02 14:26:10 <Bastian> mickeyl, are there any unit-tests for fso?
Apr 02 14:26:21 <mickeyl> some
Apr 02 14:26:27 <mickeyl> for the libraries in particular
Apr 02 14:26:41 <mickeyl> see cornucopia/<library>/tests/
Apr 02 14:26:52 <mickeyl> high level tests are missing
Apr 02 14:27:00 <Bastian> ok, after checkout i will look for it
Apr 02 14:27:03 <mickeyl> like, calling all dbus methods with specific arguments and checking the results
Apr 02 14:27:10 <mickeyl> but that's a lot work
Apr 02 14:27:15 <Bastian> sure
Apr 02 14:27:42 <Bastian> is there a strategie for?
Apr 02 14:27:56 <Bastian> oh my god. what an english ... :-)
Apr 02 14:28:56 <mickeyl> several approaches
Apr 02 14:29:01 <mickeyl> 1) mock objects
Apr 02 14:29:05 <mickeyl> 2) real objects
Apr 02 14:29:27 <Bastian> hm, i think mockobjects are better for fso-deviced
Apr 02 14:29:29 <mickeyl> 1) i used e.g. for cornucopia/tests
Apr 02 14:29:32 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, is there anything to do beside launching zhone2? 
Apr 02 14:30:07 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: no, that should launch everything on demand. if it doesn't work, check whether fsousaged, fsodeviced, and fsogsmd are running
Apr 02 14:30:20 <mickeyl> 1) is tough for things like GSM
Apr 02 14:30:26 <mickeyl> as you would need to come up with a whole dummy modem
Apr 02 14:30:28 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 14:30:31 <mickeyl> which i actually did some weeks ago
Apr 02 14:30:36 <mickeyl> but still i don't know how useful it is
Apr 02 14:31:30 <Bastian> oh, for modem it is really a lot of work. and the question is, how good it emulates the behavour
Apr 02 14:31:49 <GNUtoo> fsogsmd is not runnign
Apr 02 14:31:54 <Bastian> i thought of mocking the sliderinterface
Apr 02 14:31:56 <GNUtoo> zhone2 says searching....
Apr 02 14:32:20 <mrmoku> TAsn: ping
Apr 02 14:33:10 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: run it manually
Apr 02 14:33:17 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 14:33:38 <GNUtoo> Segmentation fault
Apr 02 14:33:54 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r988e2926cba0 10/fsodeviced/conf/htc_qualcomm_dream/fsodeviced.conf: fsodeviced: conf/htc_qualcomm_dream: report trackball movements via input system
Apr 02 14:33:59 <mickeyl> that's bad
Apr 02 14:34:14 <mickeyl> and the reason why it didn't autostart probably
Apr 02 14:34:37 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 14:34:52 <GNUtoo> it segfaults easily
Apr 02 14:35:06 <GNUtoo> no
Apr 02 14:35:18 <GNUtoo> fsogsmd doesn't segfault,but zhone2 does
Apr 02 14:35:19 <Bastian> yesterday i had a little problem. i guess one of you could help. i was listening to an device but didn get any message. could it be that i cant connect because another service is conected?
Apr 02 14:35:50 <mickeyl> which device?
Apr 02 14:35:57 <mickeyl> and how were you listening?
Apr 02 14:36:06 <Bastian> palm pre /dev/input/proximity0
Apr 02 14:36:39 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: fsogsmd does not autostart? is your image SHR based?
Apr 02 14:36:41 <mickeyl> input nodes usually support multiple listeners
Apr 02 14:36:42 <Bastian> i tries this cat and with a binary compiled of playyas code
Apr 02 14:36:47 <GNUtoo> yes it is
Apr 02 14:36:55 <mrmoku> we disabled autostart for it :P
Apr 02 14:36:56 <mickeyl> cat doesn't cut it
Apr 02 14:36:59 <mickeyl> (sic!)
Apr 02 14:37:00 <mickeyl> :D
Apr 02 14:37:00 <Bastian> ok, then i had to activate it i guess
Apr 02 14:37:03 <mickeyl> try hexdump
Apr 02 14:37:10 <mrmoku> as otherwise it would conflict with ogsmd for now
Apr 02 14:37:14 <mickeyl> it could also be that someone has a GRAB on it
Apr 02 14:37:18 <mickeyl> but that's unusual
Apr 02 14:37:29 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, I use fso2-image on htcdream
Apr 02 14:37:38 <Bastian> k, i will try next time
Apr 02 14:37:48 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: ahh ok
Apr 02 14:37:49 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, so how do I autostart it?
Apr 02 14:37:58 <mrmoku> JaMa: ping :)
Apr 02 14:38:08 <Bastian> before i will try to code the plugin for the slider
Apr 02 14:40:11 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, btw how does illume set its profile at first boot?
Apr 02 14:40:31 <GNUtoo> because I've asked arround and nobody knows or responded
Apr 02 14:40:37 <GNUtoo> I asked in #e or here
Apr 02 14:40:41 <GNUtoo> s/or/and
Apr 02 14:41:14 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: you mean what it does after you selected the profile?
Apr 02 14:41:55 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, no I mean I've a machine which boots fine but illume says a big message that takes all the screen saying that the profile is not selected and obviously it doesn't start
Apr 02 14:42:03 <GNUtoo> I looked in some files in my openmoko
Apr 02 14:42:12 <GNUtoo> like the enlightenment_start.oe
Apr 02 14:42:18 <GNUtoo> but didn't find the answer
Apr 02 14:42:26 <GNUtoo> because in openmoko it works
Apr 02 14:42:32 <GNUtoo> altough it's not first boot
Apr 02 14:42:51 <GNUtoo> but the /etc/enlightenment/something file was not present
Apr 02 14:43:27 <mrmoku> hmm... probably some package missing?
Apr 02 14:45:18 <GNUtoo> don't kn
Apr 02 14:45:20 <GNUtoo> ow
Apr 02 14:49:44 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, for instance /etc/enlightenment/default_profile is not present on om-gta02
Apr 02 14:51:37 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r0c694ca31539 10/zhone2/src/ (deviceagent.vala main.vala page.vala phonebookpage.vala): zhone2: handle trackball input in phonebook
Apr 02 14:52:41 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: if there is no ~/.e the first start wizard pops up and asks you for a profile...
Apr 02 14:52:53 <mrmoku> don't know where it puts it then... probably in the binary e config file
Apr 02 14:53:11 <mrmoku> in ~/.e/e/config
Apr 02 14:53:14 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, ok how do I start start wizard?
Apr 02 14:53:28 <mrmoku> no idea.. .it starts automatically for us
Apr 02 14:53:34 <GNUtoo> ah ok
Apr 02 14:53:43 <Bastian> restarting
Apr 02 14:53:49 <GNUtoo> in the machine I had old image was starting it
Apr 02 14:53:52 <GNUtoo> new image not
Apr 02 14:54:00 <mrmoku> hmm
Apr 02 14:55:02 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: do you have /usr/share//dbus-1/system-services/org.freesmartphone.ogsmd.service
Apr 02 14:55:25 <GNUtoo> for which machine?
Apr 02 14:55:32 <mrmoku> the one that does not autostart fsogsmd
Apr 02 14:55:43 <GNUtoo> I'll look
Apr 02 14:56:16 <mrmoku> we remove that one in do_install_append, but for SHR distro only
Apr 02 14:56:41 <GNUtoo> no
Apr 02 14:56:57 <GNUtoo> http://pastebin.com/PrCvwsT5
Apr 02 14:57:43 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: copy it over from the cornucopia repo and it should autostart :-)
Apr 02 14:57:53 <GNUtoo> ok thanks a lot
Apr 02 14:58:39 <mickeyl> ~praise trackballs
Apr 02 14:58:40 <apt> All hail trackballs!
Apr 02 15:00:39 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: i see your segfault
Apr 02 15:00:50 <mickeyl> fsogsmd is sending something bogus at launch
Apr 02 15:00:55 <mickeyl> just restart zhone2 and then it should be fine
Apr 02 15:01:09 <mickeyl> or even better
Apr 02 15:01:16 <mickeyl> set the resource to 'on'
Apr 02 15:01:21 <mickeyl> before running zhone2
Apr 02 15:01:21 <GNUtoo> sh
Apr 02 15:01:29 <mickeyl> i will investigate the problem
Apr 02 15:01:30 <GNUtoo> I'll tty
Apr 02 15:01:56 <mickeyl> i can now browse through my phonebook with the trackball
Apr 02 15:01:57 <mickeyl> it's amazing
Apr 02 15:02:15 <mickeyl> much better than dragging lists
Apr 02 15:02:18 <GNUtoo> how do I set resource to on?
Apr 02 15:04:35 <mickeyl> use cli-framework
Apr 02 15:04:47 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 15:04:49 <GNUtoo> thanks
Apr 02 15:04:53 <mickeyl> > usageiface.SetResourcePolicy("GSM","enabled")
Apr 02 15:04:56 <mickeyl> can do the same with mdbus2
Apr 02 15:04:57 <GNUtoo> (I thought it was in a config file)
Apr 02 15:07:14 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r25b9d59d3471 10/zhone2/src/phonebookpage.vala: zhone2: phonebook: ACTION does the same as double-clicking on an entry
Apr 02 15:07:48 <mickeyl> trackball up/down browses through entries on current page, trackball left/right browses through pages
Apr 02 15:07:56 <mickeyl> action button moves selected entry into phone page
Apr 02 15:08:02 <mickeyl> i need to make a video soon
Apr 02 15:08:03 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 02 15:08:34 <mickeyl> i wonder whether we can edit the trackball sensitivity
Apr 02 15:08:38 <mickeyl> it's a bit too sensitive here
Apr 02 15:08:58 <mrmoku> playya: hmm... you cast the callback explicitely to (GAsyncReadCallback), right?
Apr 02 15:09:28 <mrmoku> +y
Apr 02 15:15:28 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I've an idea
Apr 02 15:15:41 <GNUtoo> all ioctls are MSMFB_
Apr 02 15:15:49 <GNUtoo> but mine
Apr 02 15:15:56 <GNUtoo> #define MSMFB_IOCTL_MAGIC 'm'
Apr 02 15:16:03 <GNUtoo> I use f as magic
Apr 02 15:16:06 <GNUtoo> or F
Apr 02 15:16:07 <GNUtoo> maybe
Apr 02 15:16:31 <GNUtoo> I'll try something
Apr 02 15:16:41 <mickeyl> interesting, so we have to find out why the other framebuffers get the "standard" ioctls and we not
Apr 02 15:16:46 <mickeyl> perhaps we need to register
Apr 02 15:18:35 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, do you want me to try a non-standard ioctl?
Apr 02 15:18:54 <mickeyl> sure
Apr 02 15:18:56 <GNUtoo> so I see if I can call it
Apr 02 15:19:00 <mickeyl> yeah, good idea
Apr 02 15:19:05 <mickeyl> MSMFB_PANEL_WAKEUP
Apr 02 15:21:02 <JaMa> mrmoku: pong?
Apr 02 15:22:49 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r12d0bef80fd4 10/zhone2/src/main.vala: zhone2: Gvariants suck
Apr 02 15:23:53 <GNUtoo> mioctl /dev/fb0 0x6d80 0x1
Apr 02 15:23:59 <GNUtoo> is it like this that you use it?
Apr 02 15:24:39 <mickeyl> yes
Apr 02 15:25:16 <GNUtoo> [ 1175.454742] msmfb unknown ioctl: 28032
Apr 02 15:25:17 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 15:25:51 <GNUtoo> now I need to manually encode an ioctl
Apr 02 15:25:57 <GNUtoo> which is harder than decoding
Apr 02 15:27:29 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07aurora * r7e4d3ebcc98a 10/zhone2/src/gsmagent.vala: zhone2: gsmagent: remove watch once GSM becomes availble
Apr 02 15:29:37 <spaetz> sorry for OT question: Does anyone know why vala would not be able to find gee?
Apr 02 15:29:40 <spaetz> error: gee-1.0 not found in specified Vala API directories or GObject-Introspection GIR directorie
Apr 02 15:29:50 <spaetz> libgee1 is installed
Apr 02 15:30:25 <GNUtoo> I'll try with my kernel should work better
Apr 02 15:30:56 <mickeyl> heh
Apr 02 15:31:01 <mickeyl> what magic kernel do you have?
Apr 02 15:31:51 <mickeyl> spaetz: please do a find
Apr 02 15:31:57 <mickeyl> spaetz: where is libgee1.vapi ?
Apr 02 15:32:02 <mickeyl> and which valac are you calling?
Apr 02 15:32:41 <spaetz> oh, my locally installed valac 0.7.8
Apr 02 15:33:30 <spaetz> wahh, /usr/local/share/vala/vapi/ has no gee*
Apr 02 15:33:39 <GNUtoo> 			printk(KERN_INFO "msmfb unknown ioctl: %d\n", cmd);
Apr 02 15:34:14 <spaetz> it did not seem get installed when I installed vala. weird
Apr 02 15:34:23 <GNUtoo> oops
Apr 02 15:35:00 <GNUtoo> strange...
Apr 02 15:35:07 <GNUtoo> prints invalid ioctl for other
Apr 02 15:43:46 <GNUtoo> mmm another idea
Apr 02 15:44:13 <GNUtoo> I must look if it has direct access to ioctls
Apr 02 15:44:25 <GNUtoo> that is to say if it doesn't go trough some fb.c before
Apr 02 15:46:46 <GNUtoo> fbmem.c has this ioctl
Apr 02 15:47:21 <mickeyl> grep FBIOBLANK in drivers/video reports quite a number
Apr 02 15:47:44 <mickeyl> OT: either vala or efl is leaking like hell
Apr 02 15:49:51 <mickeyl> OT: htc_qualcomm_dream only supports incoming SMS via SIM
Apr 02 15:51:50 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, http://pastebin.com/F9GwVhhj
Apr 02 15:52:01 <GNUtoo> not for me
Apr 02 15:53:17 <mickeyl> heh
Apr 02 15:53:23 <mickeyl> try grep FB_BLANK_UNBLANK *
Apr 02 15:53:36 <mickeyl> so the fb class device forwards this to the individual drivers 
Apr 02 16:01:20 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4b030269ee29 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atchannel.vala: fsogsmd: atchannel: send command sequence "registered" after registration with network provider has been done
Apr 02 16:01:21 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7804f6b4081a 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_htc/plugin.vala: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_htc: enable incoming SMS
Apr 02 16:02:11 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 16:02:16 <GNUtoo> that's what I wanted to do
Apr 02 16:02:22 <GNUtoo> .fb_blank
Apr 02 16:04:54 <GNUtoo> only that I thought that it was called .blank
Apr 02 16:05:18 <The-Butch> re
Apr 02 16:05:35 <The-Butch> restarting seemed to be more complicated than i thought :-)
Apr 02 16:12:09 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rdc7bf132a243 10/fsotdld/src/plugins/sync_time/plugin.vala: fsotdld: resort to brute force (settimeofday), if the interval is too big for adjtime
Apr 02 16:12:15 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc785b66f7ca9 10/fsotdld/src/plugins/ (5 files in 5 dirs): fsotdld: cosmetics
Apr 02 16:12:29 <mickeyl> heh
Apr 02 16:13:28 <The-Butch> but now i can try to install valide again :-)
Apr 02 16:13:45 <mickeyl> is it good?
Apr 02 16:13:46 <mickeyl> never tried
Apr 02 16:14:46 <The-Butch> i tried it once. looked ok. but its no eclipse :-(
Apr 02 16:15:00 <The-Butch> what do you use?
Apr 02 16:15:45 <mickeyl> geany
Apr 02 16:18:14 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r81bfaa052b86 10/fsotdld/src/plugins/sync_time/plugin.vala: fsotdld: don't treat the diff as full timeval
Apr 02 16:18:37 <mickeyl> <The-Butch> has it codecompletion and life-validation?
Apr 02 16:18:43 <mickeyl> yes, no
Apr 02 16:18:51 <mickeyl> and no semantics in codecompletion
Apr 02 16:18:54 <mickeyl> just syntactically
Apr 02 16:19:12 <mickeyl> however, it's very fast and customizable
Apr 02 16:19:15 <mickeyl> that's what counts for me
Apr 02 16:19:25 <mickeyl> never got the hang out of eclipse
Apr 02 16:19:26 <The-Butch> hmm, then i guess i will try
Apr 02 16:19:47 <mickeyl> i'm an old school guy, IDEs typically scare me a bit ;)
Apr 02 16:19:55 * mickeyl needs an editor and 'make'
Apr 02 16:20:09 <The-Butch> hmm, then i am really newscool :-)
Apr 02 16:20:09 <mickeyl> although i love Xcode
Apr 02 16:21:46 <mickeyl> bbl
Apr 02 16:21:53 <The-Butch> kk, cya
Apr 02 16:27:44 <ThibG> hi
Apr 02 16:29:06 <ThibG> I'm trying to build a custom kernel for the GTA02
Apr 02 16:29:33 <GNUtoo> mickey|bbl, it does something
Apr 02 16:29:54 <The-Butch> he has gone 5 minutes ago
Apr 02 16:30:05 <ThibG> it boots fine, but nothing gets written on the screen (which remains as it was when left by u-boot)
Apr 02 16:30:05 <GNUtoo> I know
Apr 02 16:30:11 <ThibG> any idea?
Apr 02 16:30:16 <GNUtoo> he will read when he comes back
Apr 02 16:30:26 <The-Butch> ok
Apr 02 16:31:03 <The-Butch> sorry, i have no idea
Apr 02 16:34:21 <PaulFertser> ThibG: that's expected
Apr 02 16:34:41 <PaulFertser> ThibG: with loglevel=4 kernel shouldn't output anything on screen
Apr 02 16:34:42 <ThibG> ah?
Apr 02 16:34:56 <PaulFertser> ThibG: and also do not forget that the order of console= parameters matter.
Apr 02 16:35:21 <ThibG> ok, I'll try
Apr 02 16:35:36 <ThibG> but it's really allright if the screen still shows u-boot menu?
Apr 02 16:35:40 <PaulFertser> ThibG: all of them get kernel output, but only the first becomes /dev/console (so you won't see login: prompt if console=tty1 is not the first)
Apr 02 16:36:12 <PaulFertser> ThibG: ah, that i do not know. Do not you have a serial console? And what kernel revision are you compiling and why, and are you using defconfig?
Apr 02 16:37:35 <PaulFertser> ThibG: bbl in 20 min
Apr 02 16:37:45 <ThibG> I have a serial console (and so, I'm sure it boots fine), I'm trying to compile 2.6.32 kernel (as found in linux-2.6 debian package) in order to have a clean debian kernel that would run on the FR (even if not everything is supported)
Apr 02 16:50:12 <PaulFertser> ThibG: ah, i see. I hope you do know about the relevant kernel branches at git.openmoko.org?
Apr 02 16:51:29 <ThibG> well, I know about andy-tracking, but I'm trying to stick with the debian kernel without patches (only config changes) for now
Apr 02 16:51:39 <PaulFertser> ThibG: andy-tracking is not relevant
Apr 02 16:52:31 <PaulFertser> ThibG: basically for LCD to work you need jbt driver and some glamo driver (either KMS or glamofb iirc). I do not think either of them is mainline.
Apr 02 16:52:53 <ThibG> ok, I see
Apr 02 16:53:07 <PaulFertser> ThibG: take a look at git.openmoko.org, you'll easily see what's missing in vanilla 2.6.32, there's a bunch of "topic" branches to add missing functionality to it.
Apr 02 16:53:26 <ThibG> ok
Apr 02 16:53:57 <PaulFertser> ThibG: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/om-gta02-2.6.32
Apr 02 16:55:01 <ThibG> thanks
Apr 02 16:56:39 <leviathan> GNUtoo: I do not have ANY idea
Apr 02 16:56:47 <leviathan> where this msmwifi timeout comes from
Apr 02 16:56:56 <leviathan> could you make a break with BLANK
Apr 02 16:57:04 <leviathan> and help me with this time out issue?
Apr 02 17:00:34 <GNUtoo> leviathan, let me finish blank...it's nearly finished
Apr 02 17:00:42 <leviathan> kk
Apr 02 17:00:52 <GNUtoo> leviathan, I thought you wanted to import the codeaurora driver
Apr 02 17:00:53 <leviathan> I'll do some students stuff in this time
Apr 02 17:00:59 <leviathan> tried
Apr 02 17:01:02 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 17:01:02 <leviathan> doesnt work
Apr 02 17:01:11 <leviathan> also the most recent mmc driver
Apr 02 17:01:15 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 17:01:19 <leviathan> there are do differencies to the old one
Apr 02 17:01:24 <leviathan> none I could see
Apr 02 17:01:30 <leviathan> thats why I need you
Apr 02 17:01:40 <leviathan> tell me, when you're ready
Apr 02 17:01:56 <leviathan> I'm doing homework for the overnext week
Apr 02 17:01:59 <leviathan> in this time
Apr 02 17:02:00 <leviathan> :)
Apr 02 17:03:15 <GNUtoo> leviathan, btw did you fix alsa?
Apr 02 17:03:30 <GNUtoo> the routing issue
Apr 02 17:03:35 <leviathan> oops
Apr 02 17:03:39 <leviathan> I forgot
Apr 02 17:03:44 <leviathan> I'll fix it now
Apr 02 17:03:47 <leviathan> brb :)
Apr 02 17:03:55 <leviathan> ok
Apr 02 17:04:00 <GNUtoo> because we must do one thing at the time,not everything at once
Apr 02 17:04:04 <leviathan> joke, will stay to fix it xD
Apr 02 17:04:15 <leviathan> ok
Apr 02 17:04:16 <leviathan> yes
Apr 02 17:04:21 <leviathan> I'll fix alsa
Apr 02 17:04:24 <leviathan> then we do wifi
Apr 02 17:04:36 <leviathan> we finally need everything running...
Apr 02 17:04:39 <leviathan> whats about gps
Apr 02 17:04:48 <leviathan> did the other guys come further
Apr 02 17:04:56 <leviathan> means: did they make progress?
Apr 02 17:05:03 <GNUtoo> don't know
Apr 02 17:05:10 <GNUtoo> I care more about the basics
Apr 02 17:05:26 <GNUtoo> I've already 2 gps: one in bug device , and one in freerunner
Apr 02 17:05:41 <leviathan> ok
Apr 02 17:05:45 <leviathan> dito
Apr 02 17:05:49 <The-Butch> i think playya came further with the bootmanager
Apr 02 17:05:51 <GNUtoo> openmoko can do openstreetmap so...
Apr 02 17:05:52 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 17:06:11 <leviathan> but it would be nice
Apr 02 17:06:26 <leviathan> to have openstreetmap (TangoGPS) on htcdream ;-)
Apr 02 17:33:02 <GNUtoo> leviathan, strange thing:
Apr 02 17:33:29 <GNUtoo> MSMFB_SUSPEND_SW_REFRESHER and MSMFB_RESUME_SW_REFRESHER are never called
Apr 02 17:33:35 <GNUtoo> if I remove them it still works
Apr 02 17:33:39 <GNUtoo> (suspend)
Apr 02 17:42:58 <leviathan> wtf?
Apr 02 17:43:06 <leviathan> shouldnt be
Apr 02 17:43:13 <leviathan> because before I implemented them
Apr 02 17:43:18 <leviathan> it didnt work :)
Apr 02 17:43:56 <leviathan> GNUtoo: are you SURE
Apr 02 17:44:02 <leviathan> you removed them? ;-)
Apr 02 17:44:09 <GNUtoo> yes
Apr 02 17:44:25 <GNUtoo> while implementing them you may have changed defconfig
Apr 02 17:45:24 <leviathan> hmmm
Apr 02 17:45:42 <leviathan> strange
Apr 02 17:45:46 <leviathan> really strange
Apr 02 17:46:19 <GNUtoo> leviathan, try it but after alsa
Apr 02 17:46:27 <leviathan> kk
Apr 02 17:52:51 <GNUtoo> mickey|bbl, do that:
Apr 02 17:53:42 <TAsn> JaMa, please bump EFL, there's a terribly cool surprise feature :P
Apr 02 17:54:05 <GNUtoo> echo mem > /sys/power/state 
Apr 02 17:54:13 <GNUtoo> echo on > /sys/power/state
Apr 02 17:54:18 <GNUtoo> chvt 2
Apr 02 17:54:24 <GNUtoo> chvt 3
Apr 02 17:54:29 <GNUtoo> with zhone it works but it's slow
Apr 02 17:54:49 <GNUtoo> with the CONSOLE_SOMETHING disabled
Apr 02 17:55:00 <GNUtoo> the thing that we just enabled in kernel config
Apr 02 17:58:20 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: display will reinit without chvt then?
Apr 02 17:58:33 <GNUtoo> no
Apr 02 17:58:41 <GNUtoo> with chvt but it'll work
Apr 02 17:58:47 <mickeyl> well
Apr 02 17:58:47 <GNUtoo> I'll try to find a better way
Apr 02 17:58:50 <mickeyl> it works always with chvt
Apr 02 17:58:51 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 02 17:58:53 <mickeyl> ok
Apr 02 17:59:04 <GNUtoo> realy?
Apr 02 17:59:07 <mickeyl> yes
Apr 02 17:59:09 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 17:59:12 <mickeyl> chvt forces the panel to reinit
Apr 02 17:59:18 <GNUtoo> I noticed that
Apr 02 17:59:25 <mickeyl> since we move to fbcon in text mode
Apr 02 17:59:30 <GNUtoo> but I don't know what you mean by reinit
Apr 02 17:59:41 <mickeyl> reinit = init after deinit
Apr 02 17:59:50 <mickeyl> "coming back to live"
Apr 02 18:00:25 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 18:00:35 <GNUtoo> I'll look where this reinit lives
Apr 02 18:00:54 <GNUtoo> because we could deinit and reinit manually and automatically
Apr 02 18:01:08 <mickeyl> agreed
Apr 02 18:01:10 <mickeyl> that's much better
Apr 02 18:01:21 <mickeyl> if possible, suspend should not be tied to panel deinit
Apr 02 18:01:29 <mickeyl> but at least lets have resume not tied to panel reinit
Apr 02 18:01:43 <mickeyl> (but if we can, lets have both)
Apr 02 18:03:16 <GNUtoo> btw : DBusException: org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceUnknown: Resource GSM had never been registered
Apr 02 18:08:11 <CIA-32> SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * r430bd3c9c4f2 10/e-wm/e-wm-config-illume2-shr/ (3 files): e-wm-config-illume2-shr: Reduced the height of softkey and indicator. Needs newer e to work.
Apr 02 18:08:15 <TAsn> JaMa, well, it's not a surprise anymore, as you also need to build that ^ :P
Apr 02 18:08:29 <TAsn> JaMa, but new e introduces this awesome change :P
Apr 02 18:23:52 <GNUtoo> ahhh ok I missed a file
Apr 02 18:23:58 <GNUtoo> the toshiba mddi
Apr 02 18:30:27 <GNUtoo> ok the suspend-resume seem to work now
Apr 02 18:30:35 <GNUtoo> let me tripple check
Apr 02 18:32:02 <GNUtoo> maybe the unblank is at the wrong place tough
Apr 02 18:32:04 <GNUtoo> but it works
Apr 02 18:32:09 <GNUtoo> let me try after the locks
Apr 02 18:34:59 <GNUtoo> maybe the problem is that I want to understand exactly what I do
Apr 02 18:35:17 <GNUtoo> a simple panel->unblank(panel) did it
Apr 02 18:36:03 <GNUtoo> even better
Apr 02 18:36:11 <GNUtoo> no trace anymore
Apr 02 18:36:13 <GNUtoo> so good place
Apr 02 18:41:04 <mrmoku> TAsn: what is the softkey?
Apr 02 18:41:19 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, you still want blank and unblank?
Apr 02 18:42:03 <GNUtoo> so roughly I remove blank and unblank from suspend
Apr 02 18:42:11 <GNUtoo> and bind them to the blank and unblank ioctls?
Apr 02 18:43:46 <mickeyl> that would be perfect
Apr 02 18:44:10 <mickeyl> can we then remove that earlysuspend?
Apr 02 18:44:28 <GNUtoo> not shure
Apr 02 18:44:39 <GNUtoo> what do you mean by earlysuspend?
Apr 02 18:44:45 <GNUtoo> the CONFIG_SOMETHING?
Apr 02 18:45:03 <GNUtoo> or the functions in source code
Apr 02 18:45:49 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, what would be the use case of de-tiing them?
Apr 02 18:46:08 <GNUtoo> if it's the CONFIG_SOMETHING I already removed it from my .config
Apr 02 18:47:00 <mickeyl> example:
Apr 02 18:47:19 <mickeyl> lets say we have an app that requires display, but no wifi and only slow CPU
Apr 02 18:47:30 <mickeyl> we would then jump into suspend, but keep the display on
Apr 02 18:47:49 <mickeyl> example 2:
Apr 02 18:48:01 <mickeyl> we have an app that frequently requires full CPU, but no display
Apr 02 18:48:12 <mickeyl> we can then resume, compute, and fall asleep again without resuming display
Apr 02 18:48:14 <GNUtoo> so what to do is something else: remove display from suspend and reroute the suspend functions to the FBIOBLANK ioctl
Apr 02 18:48:25 <mickeyl> correc
Apr 02 18:48:25 <mickeyl> t
Apr 02 18:48:35 <GNUtoo> thanks a lot for the examples...
Apr 02 18:48:44 <GNUtoo> I didn't get what to do before
Apr 02 18:48:46 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 02 18:48:54 <mickeyl> yay, concrete use cases makes it better
Apr 02 18:48:57 <mickeyl> i was too fuzzy before
Apr 02 18:49:17 <mickeyl> i need to remember that you can't look into my brain ;)
Apr 02 18:49:54 <leviathan> or better
Apr 02 18:49:57 <leviathan> not so good
Apr 02 18:50:04 <leviathan> when you're not in front of me :)
Apr 02 18:50:43 <leviathan> ok other thing
Apr 02 18:50:54 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 02 18:51:06 <TAsn> mrmoku, the bottom crap :P
Apr 02 18:53:41 <mrmoku> ahh
Apr 02 18:55:49 <leviathan> mind reading is a electro magnetic field thing
Apr 02 18:56:04 <leviathan> and works only, if you body can do things like this electro eels ;)
Apr 02 18:56:24 <leviathan> but other thema
Apr 02 18:56:39 <leviathan> so we like to have separated suspension
Apr 02 18:57:00 <leviathan> to selectively shut either display, clock rate or both down
Apr 02 18:57:01 <leviathan> very well
Apr 02 18:57:14 <leviathan> I'm looking to implement mute for now
Apr 02 18:57:42 <mickeyl> (mute) splendid. but if it's simpler, feel free to go back to routing
Apr 02 18:57:55 <mickeyl> i always love full control, but routing is only a bit worse than muting
Apr 02 18:58:02 <mickeyl> so feel free to chose either way
Apr 02 18:58:47 <leviathan> uhm
Apr 02 18:58:58 <leviathan> I like my solution with direct route selection
Apr 02 18:59:15 <leviathan> only thing is, that I need to add possibility to disable all outputs
Apr 02 18:59:26 <leviathan> perhaps I should make a switch to main control
Apr 02 18:59:28 <leviathan> for muting
Apr 02 19:06:21 <mickeyl> yes. the only benefit of individual muting is to be able to route sound to two outputs simultaneously
Apr 02 19:06:28 <mickeyl> there are usecases for that, but it's not so important
Apr 02 19:06:33 <mickeyl> so direct route selection is ok
Apr 02 19:06:37 <mickeyl> plus a full mute switch
Apr 02 19:08:13 <GNUtoo> ok lol
Apr 02 19:08:56 <GNUtoo> leviathan, I've DIY  electro magnetic field detector...but it was made for cellphone EMF detection
Apr 02 19:09:35 <GNUtoo> like how much radiation it detects on htcdream,freerunner,old cellphone etc...
Apr 02 19:09:36 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 02 19:09:42 <GNUtoo> made with bug device
Apr 02 19:09:46 <GNUtoo> 1 wire
Apr 02 19:09:53 <leviathan> I'm a walking detector and generator for such fields ;-)
Apr 02 19:09:53 <GNUtoo> and a potentiometer
Apr 02 19:10:08 <leviathan> thats the reason why all watches get broken I'm wearing
Apr 02 19:10:19 <leviathan> and so I stopped wearing watches :)
Apr 02 19:10:26 <GNUtoo> back to coding
Apr 02 19:10:29 <leviathan> yes
Apr 02 19:10:30 <GNUtoo> or decoding
Apr 02 19:10:31 <leviathan> :)
Apr 02 19:10:48 <leviathan> I'm building newest kdevelop4 atm
Apr 02 19:10:56 <leviathan> but my laptop is very lame
Apr 02 19:11:05 <leviathan> but I need exactly this lib versions
Apr 02 19:11:10 <leviathan> so need to wait
Apr 02 19:11:11 <leviathan> :(
Apr 02 19:11:42 <Weiss> GNUtoo: are you trying to hook FB ioctls up to KMS?
Apr 02 19:12:07 <GNUtoo> Weiss, no,only suspend related things
Apr 02 19:12:18 <Weiss> ah, ok
Apr 02 19:12:23 <GNUtoo> on htcdream
Apr 02 19:13:08 <Weiss> for Glamo, I just made sure that KMS could take care of itself - the "drmfb" is just something to provide data to go on the screen
Apr 02 19:14:13 <mickeyl> hmm
Apr 02 19:14:21 <mickeyl> ok, so the backlight values are logarithmically scaled :/
Apr 02 19:14:32 <mickeyl> meaning i can't soften them linearly
Apr 02 19:14:39 <mickeyl> oh well... lets get ln in here
Apr 02 19:18:03 <mrmoku> leviathan: (kdevelop4) good choice :D
Apr 02 19:19:36 <mickeyl> mmh
Apr 02 19:19:42 <mickeyl> Ainulindale: ping
Apr 02 19:20:43 <leviathan> mickeyl: do you have facebook?
Apr 02 19:20:59 <leviathan> because there are 165 michael lauers :)
Apr 02 19:22:12 <sylarpowa> hi
Apr 02 19:22:19 <mickeyl> leviathan: not yet, i'll join soon into that web 2.0 thingy
Apr 02 19:22:26 <mickeyl> hey, but i twitter since yesterday ;)
Apr 02 19:22:27 <leviathan> :)
Apr 02 19:22:32 <leviathan> oh, ok
Apr 02 19:22:43 <leviathan> nya, as you perhaps now
Apr 02 19:22:44 <leviathan> *know
Apr 02 19:22:51 <leviathan> there is an openmoko user group
Apr 02 19:25:10 <leviathan> mrmoku: in kdevelop4 you can select coding style
Apr 02 19:25:15 <sylarpowa> I am selling an Openmoko Neo 1973 Advanced kit (http://goo.gl/OsJf), if anyone is interested in buying it, just send me an email at sylar[at]anche[dot]no or contact me in pvt here. Sorry for those ones who aren't interested ;)
Apr 02 19:25:16 <leviathan> so you can just write
Apr 02 19:25:18 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, leviathan maybe there would be more users in identi.ca
Apr 02 19:25:21 <leviathan> and it formats for you
Apr 02 19:25:32 <mrmoku> yeah, using it too :)
Apr 02 19:25:40 <leviathan> mrmoku: and it has skeletons for kernel drivers
Apr 02 19:25:45 <mrmoku> and it nicely autocompletes everything :)
Apr 02 19:25:48 <leviathan> mrmoku: kdevelop4 is really sweet
Apr 02 19:25:54 <leviathan> yes
Apr 02 19:26:21 <leviathan> and it autoparses the includes and gives you a database of all possible structs
Apr 02 19:26:43 <mrmoku> almost perfect... apart from the occasional crash when closing :P
Apr 02 19:26:45 <leviathan> analyses the drivers and makes a tree view out of it
Apr 02 19:26:52 <leviathan> yes
Apr 02 19:27:00 <leviathan> I can live with crashes
Apr 02 19:27:04 <mrmoku> yup
Apr 02 19:27:13 <leviathan> as long as kernel development only takes half that time
Apr 02 19:27:17 <leviathan> I would need with vim
Apr 02 19:27:28 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, it's not perfect but seem to work
Apr 02 19:27:37 <GNUtoo> before it was perfect
Apr 02 19:27:54 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, because when resuming you have:
Apr 02 19:27:59 <GNUtoo> screen off(beginning)
Apr 02 19:28:01 <GNUtoo> screen on
Apr 02 19:28:03 <GNUtoo> screen off
Apr 02 19:28:05 <GNUtoo> screen on
Apr 02 19:28:43 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, but in zhone it works fine
Apr 02 19:28:46 <GNUtoo> no such issue
Apr 02 19:28:48 <GNUtoo> only in console
Apr 02 19:28:54 <TAsn> [OT] My beautiful home made desktop http://stosb.com/Screenshot.png :P
Apr 02 19:29:23 <TAsn> Well, I had to use my brother's broken computer for the artwork :P
Apr 02 19:29:30 <GNUtoo> TAsn, you need a real windows kenrel panick
Apr 02 19:29:41 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, leviathan should I clean and commit?
Apr 02 19:29:50 <mrmoku> TAsn: duh... use a decent DE and start doing something usefull ;)
Apr 02 19:30:20 <TAsn> I almost, and I'm serious
Apr 02 19:30:24 <TAsn> almost installed kde :P
Apr 02 19:30:35 <mrmoku> :P
Apr 02 19:30:39 <TAsn> But then, at the last second, I got cold feet :P
Apr 02 19:31:02 <TAsn> And preferred to use what I'm used to instead of going to a wonderful adventure :P
Apr 02 19:31:12 <Ainulindale> mickeyl: pong
Apr 02 19:31:22 <TAsn> omg Ainulindale is alive!
Apr 02 19:31:53 <Ainulindale> It has been said I sent a mail this week as well
Apr 02 19:31:56 <Ainulindale> But I don't know if it's true
Apr 02 19:32:16 <mrmoku> probably someboday faked your mail ;)
Apr 02 19:32:34 <Ainulindale> Maybe
Apr 02 19:33:24 <misc> you were drunk again ?
Apr 02 19:33:34 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, suspend seem to freeze zhone2
Apr 02 19:33:37 <Ainulindale> I'm never drunk :-)
Apr 02 19:35:16 <leviathan> GNUtoo: hmm
Apr 02 19:37:47 <GNUtoo> maybe I should do that:
Apr 02 19:37:56 <GNUtoo> commit 1: fix suspend so it works fine
Apr 02 19:38:02 <GNUtoo> commit 2 : do what mickeyl asked
Apr 02 19:38:16 <GNUtoo> unfortunately I'm already at 2
Apr 02 19:38:20 <GNUtoo> in my code
Apr 02 19:38:48 <GNUtoo> 1 is just one line
Apr 02 19:39:17 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, are you there?
Apr 02 19:41:35 <mickeyl> yes
Apr 02 19:41:43 <mickeyl> what's up?
Apr 02 19:41:50 <mickeyl> freeze zhone2? how so?
Apr 02 19:42:10 <mickeyl> perhaps the refreshing thread is killed ;)
Apr 02 19:42:15 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, basically the display is up,but when you type on it you see nothing
Apr 02 19:42:22 <GNUtoo> maybe
Apr 02 19:42:24 <GNUtoo> don't know
Apr 02 19:42:36 <mickeyl> more probably the input events shut down
Apr 02 19:42:37 <GNUtoo> I'll look but here's what I have in dmesg
Apr 02 19:42:44 <mickeyl> try a button
Apr 02 19:42:48 <mickeyl> i.e. phone button should go to call screen
Apr 02 19:42:58 <GNUtoo> console works ...
Apr 02 19:43:09 <GNUtoo> ah but console reinit
Apr 02 19:43:53 <GNUtoo> [ 1172.522460] request_suspend_state: sleep (0->3) at 1166942172952 (2010-04-02 18:42:45.246124288 UTC)
Apr 02 19:43:58 <GNUtoo> that's what I have
Apr 02 19:45:06 <GNUtoo> that's what I have in console:
Apr 02 19:45:08 <GNUtoo> [ 1214.180480] <3>mddi_wait_interrupt 643, timeout waiting for 4000, INT = 23a001, STAT = 800061 gotint = 2a004
Apr 02 19:45:08 <GNUtoo> [ 1227.052276] request_suspend_state: sleep (0->3) at 1221471958110 (2010-04-02 18:43:39.775939964 UTC)
Apr 02 19:45:28 <GNUtoo> I used touchscreen btw
Apr 02 19:45:31 <GNUtoo> I'll try phone button
Apr 02 19:46:05 <GNUtoo> maybe it's ts driver,because buttons work
Apr 02 19:47:46 <GNUtoo> let me look if the ts driver has earlysuspend
Apr 02 19:48:24 <GNUtoo> synaptics_i2c_rmi.c:#ifdef CONFIG_HAS_EARLYSUSPEND
Apr 02 19:48:33 <GNUtoo> I should try to remove earlysuspend?
Apr 02 19:48:40 <GNUtoo> I'll do that
Apr 02 20:02:14 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, without earlysuspend: http://pastebin.com/CqNaQADd
Apr 02 20:03:44 <GNUtoo> so what's the plan?
Apr 02 20:03:57 <GNUtoo> if we remove earlysuspend it seem to behave like a freerunner
Apr 02 20:04:10 <GNUtoo> I realy don't know all theses androidianism
Apr 02 20:04:45 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, keeping earlysuspend seem a good plan for now...
Apr 02 20:05:02 <GNUtoo> we ifdef it
Apr 02 20:05:03 <GNUtoo> more
Apr 02 20:05:14 <GNUtoo> but we keep it
Apr 02 20:06:18 <leviathan> without earlysuspend you can forget suspend at all :)
Apr 02 20:06:26 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 20:06:28 <leviathan> on dream
Apr 02 20:06:58 <leviathan> but in order to separate cpu-downclocking and lcd-suspension
Apr 02 20:07:15 <leviathan> we have to make them two different kind of things
Apr 02 20:07:34 <leviathan> like carl said, in lamas with hats: these are two different kind of things
Apr 02 20:07:46 <leviathan> :)
Apr 02 20:08:29 <GNUtoo> yes but the you would have to make the synaptics_something driver a different kind of thing too
Apr 02 20:08:32 <GNUtoo> and so on
Apr 02 20:08:39 <mickeyl> sorry, was in a meeting
Apr 02 20:08:42 <GNUtoo> np
Apr 02 20:08:44 <mickeyl> what's the state of things now?
Apr 02 20:09:06 <mickeyl> we keep earlysuspend, but fix reinit panel?
Apr 02 20:09:15 <GNUtoo> sounds good for me
Apr 02 20:09:25 <GNUtoo> + some ifdef fixes for earlysuspend
Apr 02 20:09:30 <mickeyl> ok, where will you trigger init panel then?
Apr 02 20:09:32 <GNUtoo> to be able to run it without
Apr 02 20:09:43 <GNUtoo> keep both maybe
Apr 02 20:09:54 <GNUtoo> init panel and fbio_blank
Apr 02 20:10:08 <mickeyl> yes, keeping both won't hurt
Apr 02 20:10:11 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 20:10:22 <GNUtoo> so first commit: fix
Apr 02 20:10:32 <GNUtoo> second commit: adding fbioblank
Apr 02 20:10:40 <mickeyl> awesome, exactly that
Apr 02 20:10:56 <mickeyl> as an added bonus, i have made the following for you:
Apr 02 20:11:01 <GNUtoo> third commit : change some ifdefs to be able to compile the whole kernel without earlysuspend if someone wants
Apr 02 20:13:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2de1777b2e61 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_display/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: kernel26_display: refactor and read configuration for 'smooth'
Apr 02 20:13:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r248b4df95a8b 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_display/plugin.vala: 
Apr 02 20:13:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: kernel26_display: add configuration entry to dim in a soft way
Apr 02 20:13:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: This is handy for panels that don't have automatic soft-dimming. Enable it with:
Apr 02 20:13:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: [kernel26_display]
Apr 02 20:13:05 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: soft = always
Apr 02 20:13:06 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: You can also use 'up' or 'down', if you only want to enable it for one direction.
Apr 02 20:13:23 <pespin> JaMa, errors when upgrading ->  http://pastebin.ca/1855238
Apr 02 20:14:09 <mickeyl> will implement the same for the LEDs
Apr 02 20:14:16 <mickeyl> then we can have the breathing apple LED ;)
Apr 02 20:14:26 <mickeyl> (for those of you who have seen a mac laptop...)
Apr 02 20:16:18 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I don't care about android right,no need to ifdef the fix right?
Apr 02 20:16:31 <mickeyl> correct
Apr 02 20:16:54 <mickeyl> android folks won't like our kernel anywasy, since the backlight / lcd fix :)
Apr 02 20:23:55 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, sorry to bother you a lot,but I've duplicated code, using 3 enormous defined is ok?
Apr 02 20:24:23 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, I've found how to make a function
Apr 02 20:24:25 <GNUtoo> should be ok
Apr 02 20:26:26 <mickeyl> functions are obviously better, yeah
Apr 02 20:26:37 <mickeyl> (unless max speed is important)
Apr 02 20:27:30 <leviathan> GNUtoo: the android people have an already running kernel for this platform
Apr 02 20:27:34 <leviathan> goal of ours is
Apr 02 20:27:44 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rcd9909316f05 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_display/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: kernel26_display: allow hard setting brightness to interrupt a soft operation
Apr 02 20:27:45 <leviathan> making it usable for GNU/Linux
Apr 02 20:28:34 <mickeyl> agreed, they don't care about this kernel anyways, since the dream is of no more interest to them
Apr 02 20:28:40 <mickeyl> only the new products are of interest
Apr 02 20:28:46 <mickeyl> (i.e. the 'next' product)
Apr 02 20:29:29 <leviathan> nexus one
Apr 02 20:29:31 <leviathan> or so
Apr 02 20:29:33 <leviathan> yes yes
Apr 02 20:29:58 <leviathan> our goal is to make the drivers such clean to get it into upstream
Apr 02 20:30:14 <leviathan> ATM we are way far from achieving this
Apr 02 20:30:20 <leviathan> mainly because of me :-(
Apr 02 20:30:44 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1c07a7ddba90 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_display/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: kernel26_display: fix repr()
Apr 02 20:30:50 <mickeyl> well
Apr 02 20:30:51 <leviathan> because my coding style is crap, and my comments are too
Apr 02 20:30:52 <mickeyl> first make it work
Apr 02 20:30:53 <leviathan> -.-
Apr 02 20:30:53 <leviathan> but: I'm working on it
Apr 02 20:30:57 <leviathan> yes
Apr 02 20:30:57 <mickeyl> then make it fast
Apr 02 20:31:02 <mickeyl> then make it clean
Apr 02 20:31:03 <mickeyl> IMO
Apr 02 20:31:29 <mickeyl> we're still in 'make it work'
Apr 02 20:31:29 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 02 20:32:32 <mickeyl> ok, lady wants to see me for an hour before she goes to bed... will be back in 1h
Apr 02 20:33:17 <spaetz> oho!
Apr 02 20:34:45 <leviathan> kk
Apr 02 20:40:36 <pespin> JaMa, removing conflicting files let me upgrade ok, and it says:
Apr 02 20:40:37 <pespin> mesa-dri was autoinstalled and is now orphaned, removing.
Apr 02 20:40:37 <pespin> Removing package mesa-dri from root...
Apr 02 20:40:38 <pespin> ;)
Apr 02 21:04:57 <GNUtoo> leviathan, pushed
Apr 02 21:05:01 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, pushed
Apr 02 21:05:05 <GNUtoo> please test if possible
Apr 02 21:05:19 <leviathan> ok
Apr 02 21:07:35 <GNUtoo> leviathan, note that I didn't touched the useless ioctl,I leave it to you to remove them
Apr 02 21:07:50 <GNUtoo> or to keep them
Apr 02 21:08:30 <leviathan> first I need to fix alsa
Apr 02 21:08:30 <leviathan> :)
Apr 02 21:09:16 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 02 21:09:26 <GNUtoo> add it in todo list if needed then
Apr 02 21:10:24 <GNUtoo> when alsa will be fixed,and that mickeyl will have zhone finished,we'll have the equivalent of a working not-smart phone
Apr 02 21:10:36 <GNUtoo> which is great,was lacking for openmoko for a long time
Apr 02 21:12:16 <Wonka> checking for the suffix of module shared libraries... /home/w/OM/SHR/build/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/glib-2.0-2.24.0-r0/glib-2.24.0/configure: line 24798: arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-libtool: command not found
Apr 02 21:13:14 <leviathan> mickeyl: I tried around
Apr 02 21:13:23 <leviathan> did you ever think to disable all routing?
Apr 02 21:14:48 <leviathan> ohh
Apr 02 21:14:48 <leviathan> ok
Apr 02 21:14:49 <leviathan> tried
Apr 02 21:14:56 <leviathan> doesnt work out
Apr 02 21:15:02 <leviathan> -.-
Apr 02 21:15:43 <GNUtoo> leviathan, tried what?
Apr 02 21:15:49 <leviathan> mickeyl:  now I rember why I didnt implement mute
Apr 02 21:15:53 <leviathan> because I do not have any idea how to do so
Apr 02 21:15:53 <leviathan> -.-
Apr 02 21:15:57 <leviathan> 0 volume
Apr 02 21:15:57 <leviathan> would be nice
Apr 02 21:16:17 <leviathan> wouldn't it?
Apr 02 21:16:19 <leviathan> implementing full mute
Apr 02 21:16:22 <leviathan> :)
Apr 02 21:16:44 <GNUtoo> ah ok 
Apr 02 21:19:25 <TAsn> mrmoku, #dbus
Apr 02 21:19:53 <TAsn> If you want an answer, say you are having trouble with the low-level API, some core devs will start shouting at yeah, and then you'll have attention, and will be able to ask your question :
Apr 02 21:20:13 <TAsn> They don't answer to anything if you are not doing something terribly wrong.
Apr 02 21:22:46 <TAsn> thanks to me they added the bold message at the top of this page: http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus/api/html/index.html
Apr 02 21:22:50 <TAsn> I drove them crazy :P
Apr 02 21:24:09 <mrmoku> :P
Apr 02 21:26:04 <TAsn> mrmoku, got a sec?
Apr 02 21:26:20 <TAsn> Where do you get the GProxy that you want to free from? (I'm reading the dbus-glib source atm :P )
Apr 02 21:28:11 <mrmoku> TAsn: hmm.. that is difficult to say
Apr 02 21:28:27 <mrmoku> actually I'm not even sure it is a DBusGProxy with libfso-glib
Apr 02 21:28:43 <mrmoku> I'm calling something like free_smartphone_pim_get_messages_proxy()
Apr 02 21:28:53 <TAsn> ok
Apr 02 21:28:57 <TAsn> g_object_unref
Apr 02 21:28:58 <TAsn> :P
Apr 02 21:28:59 <mrmoku> and that gives me a FreeSmartphonePIMMessages
Apr 02 21:29:01 <TAsn> or whatever.
Apr 02 21:29:07 <mrmoku> hmm
Apr 02 21:29:12 <mrmoku> g_object_unref sounds good :)
Apr 02 21:29:24 <mrmoku> as it is a GObject for sure I think 
Apr 02 21:29:34 <TAsn> or at least that's how it looks like :P
Apr 02 21:31:32 <TAsn> btw, this is just a guess
Apr 02 21:31:40 <TAsn> I haven't seen anything that proves it
Apr 02 21:31:44 <TAsn> but the "spirit of the code"
Apr 02 21:31:45 <mrmoku> sure
Apr 02 21:31:52 <mrmoku> sounds sensible though
Apr 02 21:31:52 <TAsn> implied it.
Apr 02 21:32:07 * mrmoku should have thought about that too :/
Apr 02 21:32:32 <TAsn> all the intersting functions
Apr 02 21:32:36 <TAsn> are static :P
Apr 02 21:32:38 <TAsn> static void dbus_g_proxy_finalize           (GObject         *object);
Apr 02 21:32:38 <TAsn> static void dbus_g_proxy_dispose            (GObject         *object);
Apr 02 21:32:38 <TAsn> static void dbus_g_proxy_destroy            (DBusGProxy      *proxy);
Apr 02 21:33:05 <mrmoku> hehe
Apr 02 21:34:13 <mrmoku> dbus/dbus-gproxy.c:  object_class->dispose = dbus_g_proxy_dispose;
Apr 02 21:36:07 <mrmoku> Decreases the reference count of object. When its reference count drops to 0, the object is finalized (i.e. its memory is freed).
Apr 02 21:36:19 <mrmoku> will just do that
Apr 02 21:36:21 <TAsn>   g_object_unref (proxy);
Apr 02 21:36:26 <TAsn> Yay, just verified :P
Apr 02 21:36:33 <mrmoku> :)
Apr 02 21:36:35 <TAsn> Found an example somewhere :)
Apr 02 21:36:49 <mrmoku> ok, thanks
Apr 02 21:36:51 <TAsn> http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-tutorial.html
Apr 02 21:36:54 <TAsn> "a sample program"
Apr 02 21:37:53 <TAsn> btw, in dbus you can have sync method invocation
Apr 02 21:38:12 <TAsn> I think we should use this feature in some places, don't you think? :P
Apr 02 21:39:40 <TAsn> (And I hope libfso-glib can help us in that as well.)
Apr 02 21:39:50 <TAsn> As you can see (and I said so from the start)
Apr 02 21:39:57 <TAsn> dbus method invocation is terribly easy.
Apr 02 21:40:27 <TAsn> Especially if you have the specs in advance :P
Apr 02 21:42:58 <TAsn> Anyhow, sleep. :P
Apr 02 21:43:00 <TAsn> Ciao.
Apr 02 21:44:33 <mrmoku> cu
Apr 02 21:47:17 <pespin> mrmoku, is call volume issue fixed or it was part of April Fools' joke? :P
Apr 02 21:55:22 <mrmoku> pespin: unfortunatelly no joke :/
Apr 02 21:55:34 <mrmoku> speaker volume slider works for me... but mic not
Apr 02 21:55:48 * mrmoku has _very_ bad sound on phone calls these days :(
Apr 02 21:56:24 <pespin> mrmoku, as I've said sometimes, older profiles (before changin format) where far better than nowadays one's ;)
Apr 02 21:56:46 <pespin> mrmoku, but despite bad sound, does it work? I wasn't able to hear anything some days ago
Apr 02 21:57:12 <pespin> s/where/were
Apr 02 21:57:26 <mrmoku> yes, I can hear. Just the mic volume is sooo loud that the other side has bad sound
Apr 02 21:57:33 <mrmoku> somehow distorted I was said
Apr 02 21:57:40 <mrmoku> and the mic slider refuses to work
Apr 02 21:58:29 <pespin> ok, I'll wait some more days and stand with my nokia until you fix that :D
Apr 02 22:00:58 <pespin> mrmoku, btw, it seems that FSO isn't calling bluetoothd when requesting Bluetooth or setting it to ON, so no org.bluez service appears
Apr 02 22:01:22 <pespin> calling bluetoothd manually work ok, though
Apr 02 22:02:57 <mrmoku> isn't that dbus activated?
Apr 02 22:03:21 <mrmoku> hmm... no
Apr 02 22:04:22 <mrmoku> ahh... midnight... time to sleep
Apr 02 22:04:24 <mrmoku> gnight all
Apr 02 22:04:30 <pespin> gnight
Apr 02 22:04:39 <spaetz> night
Apr 02 22:04:48 <pespin> mickeyl, ^ could you look at this when you have time please?
Apr 02 22:04:59 <TAsn> mrmoku, just came back for a sec
Apr 02 22:05:00 <TAsn> my suggestion:
Apr 02 22:05:00 <TAsn> let's change the default mic sensitivity already (ffs!!!)
Apr 02 22:05:00 <TAsn> so tomorrow maybe
Apr 02 22:05:01 <TAsn> but at least
Apr 02 22:05:01 <TAsn> someone needs to do it.
Apr 02 22:09:43 <JaMa> TAsn: I can bump that and start build.. but no test...
Apr 02 22:10:27 <JaMa> TAsn: and I'm leaving in 5 hours to Austria skiing.. so I won't be here for next few days
Apr 02 22:10:35 <JaMa> damn split
Apr 02 22:30:09 <TAsn> pespin, here?
Apr 02 22:30:20 <TAsn> You got 1 second before I'm off. :P
Apr 02 22:30:28 <TAsn> come on man!
Apr 02 22:30:35 <TAsn> Anyhow, pespin workaround for the sound issue:
Apr 02 22:30:44 <TAsn> adjust the state manually
Apr 02 22:31:03 <TAsn> I think 70 is good.
Apr 02 22:31:12 <TAsn> (Mono Playback Volume)
Apr 02 22:35:16 <TAsn> JaMa|Skiing, ski? cool have fun :P
Apr 02 22:41:57 <The-Butch> hi
Apr 02 22:43:16 <TAsn> YAY
Apr 02 22:43:29 <TAsn> mickeyl, mrmoku|away: I found the bug that caused fsodeviced to loose scenarios :@
Apr 02 22:43:56 <mickeyl> yay!
Apr 02 22:44:14 <mickeyl> what is it?
Apr 02 22:45:17 <mickeyl> ok, just reading the bug entry
Apr 02 22:46:14 <TAsn> mickeyl, that's not the bug entry
Apr 02 22:46:22 <TAsn> sec, I'm openining another one :P
Apr 02 22:46:28 <TAsn> This one is on another issue :P
Apr 02 22:46:57 <TAsn> http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/528
Apr 02 22:46:59 <TAsn> have fun :P
Apr 02 22:47:27 <TAsn> The report is filled with assumptions (because as I said there, I'm not a vala dev)
Apr 02 22:47:46 <TAsn> But I'm positive about the bug
Apr 02 22:47:53 <TAsn> the assumptions are only about the code :P
Apr 02 22:48:02 <mickeyl> okies
Apr 02 22:48:06 <mickeyl> will take a look
Apr 02 22:48:11 <TAsn> mickeyl, it's a one-liner fix.
Apr 02 22:49:58 <TAsn> As for the second bug, shouldn't be that hard to fix as well, and both will provide amazing usability improvements (one is a blocker and the other is pretty critical).
Apr 02 22:50:08 <mickeyl> k
Apr 02 22:50:56 <pespin> TAsn, yey, I was looking "Last Samurai" film :P let me look at the profile
Apr 02 22:51:05 <TAsn> pespin, I think that's the best solution
Apr 02 22:51:46 <pespin> TAsn, where are profiles located now?
Apr 02 22:52:46 <TAsn> /etc/freesmartphone/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-default/
Apr 02 22:53:33 <The-Butch> does anybody use val(a)ide?
Apr 02 22:54:23 <pespin> TAsn, 5:'Mono Playback Volume':1:70 <-- like this?
Apr 02 22:54:27 <TAsn> yes
Apr 02 22:54:33 <TAsn> even 75
Apr 02 22:54:44 <TAsn> I'm still working on findiing the correct value
Apr 02 22:54:50 <TAsn> and important:
Apr 02 22:54:56 <TAsn> Don't forget to verify there is *no* newline
Apr 02 22:54:58 <TAsn> at the end of file
Apr 02 22:56:38 <TAsn> yeah, 75 is perfect for me :P
Apr 02 22:57:08 <pespin> ok thanks, I'll try calling tomorrow, now is time to sleep, tomorrow it's studying time for me :P
Apr 02 22:57:33 <TAsn> I'll just send a quick email to shr-user
Apr 02 22:57:43 <TAsn> And I'm off to bed as well (two hours+ late, but still)
Apr 02 22:57:44 <pespin> calculus exam in a week :(
Apr 02 22:58:11 <TAsn> hehe :P
Apr 02 22:58:18 <TAsn> Thank god I finished that course a while ago
Apr 02 22:58:25 <TAsn> I'm now taking calculus 3 though :P
Apr 02 22:58:46 <pespin> I only have 1 subject of calculus
Apr 02 22:59:16 <pespin> 1 more of Algebra, and 1 Algebra2 optative
Apr 02 22:59:49 <pespin> gnight!
Apr 02 22:59:54 <TAsn> night.
Apr 02 23:00:38 <mickeyl> TAsn: what does a newline do? make it crash?
Apr 02 23:00:46 <TAsn> no
Apr 02 23:00:52 <TAsn> just make it not show the scenario
Apr 02 23:00:57 <TAsn> in GetAvailableScenarios
Apr 02 23:00:58 <mickeyl> urghs
Apr 02 23:01:13 <mickeyl> so the scenario is not accepted as valid?
Apr 02 23:01:16 <TAsn> mickeyl, if I may: lets start with not saving that new line :P
Apr 02 23:01:30 <TAsn> committing that, reviving our phones
Apr 02 23:01:43 <TAsn> and then deal with validation checking :P
Apr 02 23:01:47 <TAsn> mickeyl, I'm not sure to be honest
Apr 02 23:01:59 <TAsn> mickeyl, I'm not a vala dev, I assume it's not accepted as valid
Apr 02 23:02:07 <TAsn> though anyhow, no error messages appear, which is bad.
Apr 02 23:02:11 <mickeyl> ok, will take carea bout that 
Apr 02 23:03:42 <TAsn> thanks.
Apr 02 23:04:46 <The-Butch> mickeyl, where can i find the path to the git-repository of odeviced?
Apr 02 23:10:20 <mickeyl> The-Butch: you hopefully mean fsodeviced, which is at cornucopia/fsodeviced
Apr 02 23:10:34 <The-Butch> yes, i did. thx
Apr 02 23:10:54 <TAsn> mickeyl, Ok, I think I caused enough damage today. Night.
Apr 02 23:11:24 <mickeyl> TAsn: thanks, g'night
Apr 02 23:11:38 <TAsn> mickeyl, please let me (or someone who can build it like JaMa|Skiing/mrmoku) know when you are done :P
Apr 02 23:11:51 <TAsn> mickeyl, np, I only scratched my itches :P
Apr 02 23:12:40 <mickeyl> sure
Apr 02 23:15:08 <The-Butch> hmm, mmy git doesn't want the links copied from the website. isn't this possible?
Apr 02 23:16:01 <mickeyl> git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org:cornucopia
Apr 02 23:16:04 <mickeyl> doesn't work?
Apr 02 23:16:27 <The-Butch> i thought i could try it like svn
Apr 02 23:16:42 <mickeyl> no, subdirectories don't work :)
Apr 02 23:16:48 <mickeyl> you need the whole repo
Apr 02 23:16:58 <mickeyl> which you need anyways if you want to build it
Apr 02 23:17:04 <mickeyl> plus a couple of more dependencies
Apr 02 23:18:02 <The-Butch> fatal: Unable to look up  (port 9418) (No address associated with hostname)
Apr 02 23:18:35 <mickeyl> ah
Apr 02 23:18:38 <mickeyl> try http protocol
Apr 02 23:20:31 <mickeyl> leviathan: stil awake?
Apr 02 23:21:46 <leviathan> yes
Apr 02 23:21:51 <leviathan> mom
Apr 02 23:21:54 <leviathan> smoking
Apr 02 23:23:55 <mickeyl> k
Apr 02 23:24:55 <leviathan> re
Apr 02 23:25:01 <mickeyl> leviathan: wb. GNUtoo's fix helps w/ panel init, but introduces a nasty race -- http://pastebin.ca/1855389 -- i guess it calls the unblank too early
Apr 02 23:25:59 <leviathan> urgh
Apr 02 23:26:07 <leviathan> I didn't have this kind of error yet
Apr 02 23:26:12 <budfive> ~nf
Apr 02 23:26:12 <leviathan> I'll try tomorrow
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Apr 02 23:26:15 <mickeyl> ok
Apr 02 23:26:16 <mickeyl> g'night
Apr 02 23:26:19 <leviathan> need to sleep now
Apr 02 23:26:22 <leviathan> thx
Apr 02 23:26:23 <leviathan> gn8
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