**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 05 02:59:56 2010
Apr 05 07:45:41 <alabd> Martix, Good day is not jalimo on shr reps?
Apr 05 07:47:49 <Martix> never used it, but I think, the repo is on Om wiki
Apr 05 07:50:50 <alabd> you mean you have never installed .jar apps on shr ?
Apr 05 07:55:36 <Martix> nope
Apr 05 07:56:03 <spaetzzZ> there is as hava vm available?
Apr 05 07:56:18 <Martix> spaetzzZ: Jalimo
Apr 05 07:57:11 <spaetzzZ> not in the shr repos at least....
Apr 05 07:57:31 * spaetz doesn't do java
Apr 05 08:20:50 <gonzoism> has the microphone volume setting but been reported yet ?
Apr 05 08:21:01 <gonzoism> in testing.
Apr 05 08:24:16 <mrmoku> TAsn: nice... make them program something pretty for SHR :P
Apr 05 08:24:49 <mrmoku> gonzoism: testing does not have the fix yet (which is an upstream EFL fix)
Apr 05 08:28:46 <TAsn> mrmoku, what program?
Apr 05 08:28:55 <TAsn> bbl lan party
Apr 05 08:30:36 <gonzoism> thak you
Apr 05 08:30:40 <mrmoku> TAsn: code... nice views in libphone-ui-shr... :;P
Apr 05 08:30:50 * mrmoku moving upstairs
Apr 05 08:43:11 <gonzoism> there is another bug and it has been around for a while.
Apr 05 08:44:09 <gonzoism> to reproduce, go to settings, then power, then slide auto-suspend to off.  then get an incoming call.
Apr 05 08:44:31 <gonzoism> then go back to settings, power and try to turn auto-suspend off again, and it will not work.
Apr 05 08:46:01 <gonzoism> I have to reboot to turn auto-suspend off again.  very annoying.
Apr 05 08:49:04 <Gabrys> Hello 
Apr 05 08:49:43 <Gabrys> I have built & installed shr-lite image into my FR, then upgraded to shr-full from the phone, but frameworkd kind of crashes 
Apr 05 08:50:04 <Gabrys> with a Python exception: ImportError: No module named _ctypes
Apr 05 08:51:04 <Gabrys> http://pastebin.com/Vr2XqbJR
Apr 05 08:51:14 <Gabrys> python-ctypes is installed and up-to-date
Apr 05 08:51:45 <Gabrys> but import ctypes issued from python raises exception like in frameworkd
Apr 05 08:53:14 <Gabrys> talking of shr-u
Apr 05 09:04:38 <REalm> is following shr compile instructions on the shr page the right way to compile it?
Apr 05 09:05:22 <spaetz> well, yes, that's why they are there :-)
Apr 05 09:06:29 <REalm> then I need help :] why can I be getting file.h:412: error: conflicting types for 'sys_errlist'
Apr 05 09:06:57 <REalm> this is for shr-unstable/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/file-native-5.04-r2.0/file-5.04/src
Apr 05 09:12:44 <vanous123> TAsn: ping?
Apr 05 09:33:58 <TAsn> vanous123, sorry lan party, gtg.
Apr 05 09:34:07 <TAsn> mrmoku, I don't know what you are talking about, will contact you later.
Apr 05 09:34:12 <TAsn> :)
Apr 05 09:34:14 <TAsn> lan party!
Apr 05 09:34:16 <vanous123> TAsn: np
Apr 05 09:34:29 <vanous123> perhaps mrmoku might know :)
Apr 05 09:34:41 <vanous123> when setting call volume, it used to be good to make a test call, set values and reboot. is it still the case, or reboot is unnecessary?
Apr 05 09:36:01 <mrmoku> vanous123: should be unnecessary... not sure though
Apr 05 09:36:50 <vanous123> mrmoku: this was with the recent odevice fix, you think?
Apr 05 09:39:25 <mrmoku> yes, saving was broken
Apr 05 09:39:53 <mrmoku> and I can see no reason why rebooting should be needed
Apr 05 09:40:07 <mrmoku> no expert though :P
Apr 05 09:40:13 <vanous123> :)
Apr 05 09:42:27 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: i'm getting those errors when trying to open an inwin in sim-manager: http://shr.pastebin.com/j1Xhk59x
Apr 05 09:42:42 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: do you have an idea what'sw rong?
Apr 05 09:48:01 <mrmoku> heh.. somehow my internet is half broken :/ page does not load... git.shr-project.org fails... guees I better reconnect
Apr 05 09:48:01 <mrmoku> ahh now it's there
Apr 05 09:48:27 <misc> someone rebooted the internet ?
Apr 05 09:50:04 <spaetz> yep, my wife just deleted it.
Apr 05 09:50:21 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: hmm... I'm fighting problems with inwin too... maybe it's the same source
Apr 05 09:50:21 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: can you try if adding a field to a contact works with fully updated shr-u?
Apr 05 09:51:36 <mrmoku> spaetz: spank here then... we need it :P
Apr 05 09:52:59 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: it's working here
Apr 05 09:55:00 <mrmoku> bbia
Apr 05 09:55:00 <mrmoku> b
Apr 05 10:06:27 <Heinervdm> raster: do you have a working example for an inwin with an elm_layout?
Apr 05 10:24:34 <Heinervdm> is there no docu for inwin's?
Apr 05 10:51:47 <pbaxter> hello all
Apr 05 10:52:06 <pbaxter> can someone tell me how to remove the 2-clicks to open an app and to set one-click opening?
Apr 05 10:53:00 <Heinervdm> default configuration is single click
Apr 05 10:56:49 <pbaxter> Heinervdm, i have double-click....
Apr 05 10:56:55 <pbaxter> where can i change configuration?
Apr 05 10:57:17 <Heinervdm> illume settings -> launcher
Apr 05 10:58:07 <Heinervdm> we increased press delay perhaps it's just bit too much
Apr 05 11:25:48 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: resetting my fritzbox seems to have helped :/
Apr 05 11:26:41 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: helped fixing the inwin issue?
Apr 05 11:28:11 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: no :P
Apr 05 11:28:20 <Heinervdm> :)
Apr 05 11:28:23 <mrmoku> helped me being able to have a decent internet again :)
Apr 05 11:28:47 <mrmoku> mickey|zzZZzz: 2010-04-05T12:26:55.315171Z [WARN]  TiCalypsoModem <4C>: No handler for URC '%CCCN', please report to smartphones-userland@linuxtogo.org
Apr 05 11:28:51 <mrmoku> 2010-04-05T12:27:26.227524Z [WARN]  TiCalypsoModem <4C>: No handler for URC 'BUSY', please report to smartphones-userland@linuxtogo.org
Apr 05 11:28:55 <mrmoku> are two more
Apr 05 11:30:43 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: field select does still work for current shr-u?
Apr 05 11:31:52 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: only if it's unselected before
Apr 05 11:31:52 * mrmoku boots to other partition and tries
Apr 05 11:32:03 <mrmoku> yeah, but you get the inwin with fields to select from?
Apr 05 11:32:11 <mrmoku> if you add a field
Apr 05 11:32:28 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: yes
Apr 05 11:32:34 <mrmoku> ok
Apr 05 11:33:29 <lindi-> mrmoku: this isn't smartphones-userland@ :)
Apr 05 11:34:47 <mrmoku> :P
Apr 05 11:36:54 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: the inwin should scroll to the field to be edited, else you can't see what you are doing
Apr 05 11:56:46 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07specs * rda1a28da1208 10/org.freesmartphone.PIM/org.freesmartphone.PIM.Messages.xml.in: 
Apr 05 11:56:46 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.PIM.Messages: add two missing signals (UpdatedMessage + DeletedMessage)
Apr 05 11:56:46 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann <mok@fluxnetz.de>
Apr 05 11:57:09 <mrmoku> Heinervdm: you mean when you change the field itself?
Apr 05 11:57:34 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: when i change the content
Apr 05 11:57:54 <mrmoku> ahh.. because you said inwin...
Apr 05 11:58:00 <mrmoku> you mean the field list?
Apr 05 11:58:12 <mrmoku> when the keyboard pops up
Apr 05 11:58:13 <mrmoku> yeah
Apr 05 11:58:16 <mrmoku> that's annoying
Apr 05 11:58:43 <Heinervdm> mrmoku: oh right, it isn't a inwin
Apr 05 11:58:50 <Heinervdm> yes eyactly that
Apr 05 12:01:33 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r32e7e15e1a33 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (atcommandqueue.vala atunsolicited.vala modem.vala): fsogsmd: use more string templates
Apr 05 12:06:39 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r0ccdd29e6dc0 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): fix make install right after configuring
Apr 05 12:19:09 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r85f769ec9144 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (mediators.vala unsolicited.vala): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: handle SIM auth
Apr 05 12:45:12 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r08ef2eff4e14 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/mediators.vala: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: raise NYI for not yet implemented mediators
Apr 05 13:13:45 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rd9944c951afc 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (commandqueue.vala unsolicited.vala): 
Apr 05 13:13:45 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: handle URC_NETWORK_STATE_INFO
Apr 05 13:13:45 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: NOTE: Values other than for strength don't seem to make sense atm.
Apr 05 13:25:51 <gonzoism> hi dos1
Apr 05 13:26:04 <dos1> hi
Apr 05 13:26:23 <gonzoism> whatever happened to that website update you were working on ?
Apr 05 13:26:37 <mrmoku> heh
Apr 05 13:26:41 <mrmoku> good question :P
Apr 05 13:26:56 <gonzoism> cause it looked really good.  and looked like %99 finished
Apr 05 13:30:19 <mrmoku> gonzoism: problem is less that it might not be finished... but more to get it installed
Apr 05 13:33:03 <dos1> yup, mrmoku|away is right
Apr 05 13:33:08 <gonzoism> i agree.  it looked so good too.
Apr 05 13:33:15 <dos1> but that's also partially my laziness :P
Apr 05 13:33:42 <dos1> i'll try to get in touch with that bearstech guy soon
Apr 05 13:33:48 <gonzoism> cool
Apr 05 13:34:03 <gonzoism> and thanks
Apr 05 13:34:15 <ius> mrmoku|away: To which ML should I direct any message regarding the target suggestion I had (the Samsung phone)
Apr 05 13:35:23 <gonzoism> oh my...  check out the NSFW at http://scap.linuxtogo.org   <--- NSFW
Apr 05 13:37:04 <Gabrys> gonzoism: omg Windows logo?
Apr 05 13:38:05 <gonzoism> no, a naked lady.
Apr 05 13:38:13 <Gabrys> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=4 -- android-like theme 
Apr 05 13:38:27 <Gabrys> aaah, sorry, I'm more used to naked ladies than to Windows logos
Apr 05 13:39:40 <gonzoism> ya, the windows logo freaked me out until I installed it too.  then it was like, haha.
Apr 05 13:40:09 <gonzoism> now i got it on my phone and waiting for the next release
Apr 05 13:40:34 <gonzoism> i like that android like theme.
Apr 05 13:40:52 <gonzoism> with the tab thing.  very cool
Apr 05 13:55:58 <PaulFertser> ius: smartphones-userland probably
Apr 05 13:59:29 <ius> Right
Apr 05 14:04:11 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rb680a3b6bff8 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (channel.vala plugin.vala unsolicited.vala): 
Apr 05 14:04:12 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: companion AT channel does not properly open via serial_forward
Apr 05 14:04:12 <CIA-32> freesmartphone.org: Hopefully it works better on the device...
Apr 05 14:14:43 <mickeyl> morning
Apr 05 14:35:08 <gonzoism> morning
Apr 05 14:44:04 <der-lehmann1> moin moin
Apr 05 15:14:06 * pespin takes some popcorn to watch the religious war in SHR mailinglist :P
Apr 05 15:45:45 <mrmoku> ius: either shr-devel... or probably even better smartphones-userland@linuxtogo.org
Apr 05 15:46:05 <mrmoku> dos1: just join #bearstech and ask lukhas
Apr 05 16:12:41 <valos> Since yesternight upgrade, I can't hear ring and I have no sound during call. Is it a known bug?
Apr 05 16:30:19 <mickeyl> mrmoku: what's the state of 2.6.32?
Apr 05 16:30:25 <mickeyl> (FR)
Apr 05 16:31:03 <larsc> 2.6.34 is comming soon...
Apr 05 16:31:26 <mickeyl> larsc: so, it's still under development and we should wait w/ fso support?
Apr 05 16:33:24 <larsc> mickeyl: I've started with foreward porting the patches to 2.6.34-rc3 yesterday. but the sysfs interface will be the same than with 2.6.32
Apr 05 16:33:48 <mickeyl> larsc: ok, cool. might as well wait until .34 then, thanks
Apr 05 16:33:57 <mrmoku> mickeyl: playing with it since two days or so... looks quite good. Having problems with wifi (might be fsodeviced needing adjustments) and did not try GPS
Apr 05 16:34:13 <mickeyl> mrmoku: oh really? hmm, which recipe did you use?
Apr 05 16:34:32 <mrmoku> mickeyl: JaMa|Skiing is our kernel builder
Apr 05 16:34:39 <mrmoku> I just downloaded the result :P
Apr 05 16:34:51 * mrmoku checks
Apr 05 16:35:52 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ähmm... my response was to 2.6.32... not 2.6.34 :)
Apr 05 16:36:05 <mrmoku> (just in case)
Apr 05 16:36:06 <mickeyl> mrmoku: i know
Apr 05 16:36:09 <mrmoku> ok
Apr 05 16:36:22 <mickeyl> i'm stuck with both the dream and the palm atm.
Apr 05 16:36:29 <mickeyl> might as well hack a bit on the FR then :)
Apr 05 16:37:35 <mrmoku> ohhh yes :D
Apr 05 16:38:02 <mrmoku> mickeyl: if you want some 'please report to smartphones-userland' stuff :P
Apr 05 16:38:21 <mickeyl> mrmoku: please retry with the latest version, this contains the righthandside in the log as well
Apr 05 16:38:30 <mrmoku> or 2010.04.05 18:31:33.242249 [libphone-ui]        WARNING: PDP NetworkStatus: Not yet implemented
Apr 05 16:38:42 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ok, will build master
Apr 05 16:38:47 <mickeyl> thanks
Apr 05 16:38:53 <mickeyl> pdp network status will not be implemented
Apr 05 16:39:02 <mickeyl> it went into "normal" status
Apr 05 16:39:05 <pespin_> or not org.bluez when requesting bluetooth resource! :P
Apr 05 16:39:06 <mickeyl> as additional attributes
Apr 05 16:39:14 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ahh ok
Apr 05 16:39:23 <mickeyl> pespin_: yeah, got that on my agenda
Apr 05 16:39:45 <pespin_> hehe great :D
Apr 05 16:46:35 <mickeyl> so... linux-openmoko-2.6.32_git.bb, linux-openmoko-shr-devel_git.bb, or linux-openmoko-shr-drm-devel_git.bb?
Apr 05 16:49:31 <mrmoku> mickeyl: I would think the first one... not sure though... and have to perpare the table now :/
Apr 05 16:49:35 <mrmoku> bll
Apr 05 16:49:37 <mrmoku> bbl
Apr 05 17:27:01 <GNUtoo> ah no leviathan...he disconnected?
Apr 05 17:27:26 <mickeyl> hmm, yeah
Apr 05 17:42:03 <alabd> Good day all , how to install .jar files on shr
Apr 05 17:44:13 <alabd> have added this repo mentioned here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Users_Repositories#Jalimo
Apr 05 17:44:26 <alabd> but there is only these 2 packages
Apr 05 17:44:40 <alabd> root@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list jalimo*  
Apr 05 17:44:40 <alabd> jalimo-swt-example - 0.1.3-0openmoko-2007.11-r0 - swt example for jalimo
Apr 05 17:44:40 <alabd> jalimo-swt-example2 - 0.1.1-0openmoko-2007.11-r0 - swt example for jalimo
Apr 05 17:44:51 <alabd> where is jalimo itself ?
Apr 05 17:56:41 <PaulFertser> alabd: opkg install jamvm
Apr 05 17:56:46 <PaulFertser> Is probably what you want
Apr 05 17:58:05 <PaulFertser> alabd: and moreover you want to read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jalimo
Apr 05 18:01:52 <PaulFertser> alabd: and also http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java
Apr 05 18:02:26 <DocScrutinizer> ola'
Apr 05 18:06:08 <alabd> PaulFertser, thanks will read them later
Apr 05 18:08:40 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: hi :)
Apr 05 18:43:43 <mrmoku> mickeyl: current fsodeviced is segfaulting for me
Apr 05 18:43:57 <mickeyl> that's bad. got a backtrace?
Apr 05 18:44:54 <mrmoku> mickeyl: no strace installed (yet)... but it hits the following assertion:
Apr 05 18:44:58 <mrmoku> fsodeviced: control.c:1616: snd_ctl_elem_list_get_id: Assertion `idx < obj->used' failed.
Apr 05 18:45:08 <alexxy> mrmoku: JaMa|Skiing: any progress with non working intone?
Apr 05 18:45:21 <mickeyl> mrmoku: oh
Apr 05 18:45:36 <mickeyl> let me take a quick look
Apr 05 18:45:40 <mrmoku> alexxy: IIRC it is some upstream thing?
Apr 05 18:45:49 <alexxy> yep
Apr 05 18:45:53 <alexxy> bug with elementary
Apr 05 18:46:26 <mrmoku> alexxy: we bumped EFL yesterday... or was it the day before? 
Apr 05 18:47:01 <mrmoku> alexxy: anyway... I have no idea... and JamA is just that... Skiing :)
Apr 05 18:51:01 <mickeyl> mrmoku: fun, i have no control.c anywhere
Apr 05 18:51:11 <mrmoku> heh
Apr 05 18:51:25 <mrmoku> want the strace?
Apr 05 18:51:29 <mrmoku> err
Apr 05 18:51:32 <mrmoku> backtrace :P
Apr 05 18:51:33 <mickeyl> backtrace
Apr 05 18:51:36 <mickeyl> yep
Apr 05 18:52:11 * mrmoku installing fsodeviced-dbg
Apr 05 18:52:51 <mickeyl> install libfsoframework-dbg as well
Apr 05 18:52:56 <mickeyl> the routine is probably in there
Apr 05 18:53:56 <mrmoku> ahh, ok
Apr 05 18:54:35 <mrmoku> mickeyl: automatically installed it via dependencies
Apr 05 18:54:40 <mrmoku> backtrace is useless though
Apr 05 18:54:50 <mrmoku> (gdb) bt
Apr 05 18:54:50 <mrmoku> #0  0x4057bcdc in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
Apr 05 18:54:50 <mrmoku> #1  0x4057f94c in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
Apr 05 18:54:50 <mrmoku> #2  0x4057f94c in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
Apr 05 18:55:01 <mrmoku> and abort continues....
Apr 05 18:56:17 <mickeyl> darn
Apr 05 18:58:21 <mickeyl> can you strace and check which scenario it reads?
Apr 05 18:58:54 <mrmoku> 2010-04-05T19:57:59.215998Z [DEBUG] fsodeviced : Found scenario 'voiphandset'
Apr 05 18:59:13 <mrmoku> after deleting the voiphandset scenario file
Apr 05 18:59:18 <mrmoku> 2010-04-05T19:57:59.236752Z [WARN]  fsodeviced : Scenario file /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/alsa-default/voiphandset doesn't exist. Ignoring.
Apr 05 18:59:20 <mrmoku> 2010-04-05T19:57:59.237420Z [DEBUG] fsodeviced : Found scenario 'gsmspeaker'
Apr 05 18:59:32 <mrmoku> (always the last thing in log
Apr 05 18:59:32 <mrmoku> )
Apr 05 18:59:44 <mrmoku> so it does not look like the scenario itself
Apr 05 19:00:09 <mrmoku> straces still building...
Apr 05 19:00:26 <dcordes> is there some SHR twitter account ?
Apr 05 19:06:50 <mrmoku> don:t thin so
Apr 05 19:06:59 <mrmoku> +km
Apr 05 19:10:15 <dos1> dcordes: there is identi.ca group
Apr 05 19:11:36 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ioctl(32, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, 0x73ee8)      = 0
Apr 05 19:11:36 <mrmoku> ioctl(32, USBDEVFS_CONNECTINFO, 0x74200) = 0
Apr 05 19:11:36 <mrmoku> ioctl(32, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, 0x74318)      = 0
Apr 05 19:11:36 <mrmoku> write(2, "fsodeviced: control.c:1616: snd_"..., 90) = 90
Apr 05 19:12:35 <dcordes> dos1, the foss twitter?
Apr 05 19:13:28 <dos1> dcordes: yup
Apr 05 19:35:24 <Butch> hi
Apr 05 19:35:34 <alabd> Butch, hi
Apr 05 20:02:04 <pespin> mrmoku, [ERROR] UsageController <9 R>: Resource GSM can't be enabled: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.. Trying to disable instead
Apr 05 20:02:13 <pespin> this time it's not my fault putting SIM the wrong way :P
Apr 05 20:05:14 <pespin> killed fsousaged and restarted frameworkd, that solved it
Apr 05 20:06:41 <pespin> mickeyl, bluetooth thinge has evolved, now with emtooth I get this error -> Error: org.freesmartphone.Usage.ResourceUnknown - Resource Bluetooth had never been registered
Apr 05 20:07:48 <alabd> mrmoku,  if persian layouts don;t work remove them from host 
Apr 05 20:08:27 <alabd> fsoraw -r CPU -- mplayer.. does not take affect why ?
Apr 05 20:13:16 <leviathan> GNUtoo: re
Apr 05 20:13:46 <GNUtoo> leviathan, I need a working configuration because I'm blind for now
Apr 05 20:14:21 <leviathan> what?
Apr 05 20:14:23 <leviathan> blind?
Apr 05 20:14:29 <leviathan> how do you mean that?
Apr 05 20:14:31 <tim_abell> spaetz, any chance of a backport to shr-t for the volume slider issue?
Apr 05 20:14:50 <GNUtoo> leviathan, I mean that I don't see clear in the wifi issue
Apr 05 20:14:55 <leviathan> oh
Apr 05 20:14:56 <leviathan> ok
Apr 05 20:14:59 <leviathan> uhm
Apr 05 20:15:00 <leviathan> ok
Apr 05 20:15:04 <leviathan> following
Apr 05 20:15:05 <GNUtoo> leviathan, I need something working to try to find out what are the missing patches
Apr 05 20:15:11 <leviathan> it seems to be a glibc issue
Apr 05 20:15:17 <leviathan> I'm building a new image
Apr 05 20:15:29 <GNUtoo> leviathan, it's a driver issue even if strace gives glibc 
Apr 05 20:15:29 <leviathan> I was away and it broke down with errors
Apr 05 20:15:41 <leviathan> hmm
Apr 05 20:15:46 <leviathan> I'll look
Apr 05 20:15:49 <spaetz> tim_abell, I'm not sure what we would need to bump. Iif it's fsodevice etc then no problem.
Apr 05 20:15:49 <leviathan> sure thing is
Apr 05 20:15:52 <GNUtoo> leviathan, try hanged thing detection
Apr 05 20:15:53 <leviathan> it worked once
Apr 05 20:15:58 <GNUtoo> in kernel
Apr 05 20:16:05 <leviathan> its the same issue with gnulinuxkernel
Apr 05 20:16:06 <tim_abell> back in a bit
Apr 05 20:16:12 <spaetz> bumping efl is no fun on the other hand.
Apr 05 20:16:15 <tim_abell> i'd have to check the bug report
Apr 05 20:16:24 <leviathan> so I'll try to use bobcopelands configs for SDIO/MMC part
Apr 05 20:16:48 <GNUtoo> leviathan, Detect Hung Tasks (DETECT_HUNG_TASK) in kenrel hacking
Apr 05 20:17:01 <GNUtoo> leviathan,I  already tried that
Apr 05 20:17:19 <leviathan> GNUtoo: and? didnt work out?
Apr 05 20:17:20 <GNUtoo> leviathan, pick a kernel and rootfs that works
Apr 05 20:17:22 <GNUtoo> no
Apr 05 20:17:25 <leviathan> ok
Apr 05 20:17:36 <GNUtoo> and starting from this point we'll try to debug it
Apr 05 20:18:16 <mickeyl> mrmoku: hmm, could it be that you are running a kernel that has a different amount of mixer controls as the scenario thinks?
Apr 05 20:24:55 <leviathan> GNUtoo: I'll now try the most recent rootfs
Apr 05 20:25:02 <leviathan> lets see if wifi is broken there too
Apr 05 20:25:03 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 05 20:28:58 <mrmoku> mickeyl: possible... running 2.6.32
Apr 05 20:29:06 <mrmoku> maybe the scenarios are not correct
Apr 05 20:29:57 <mickeyl> yeah
Apr 05 20:30:03 <mickeyl> it should not break like that
Apr 05 20:30:06 <mickeyl> but that could be a reason
Apr 05 20:30:13 <mickeyl> you could try removing the scenarios
Apr 05 20:30:20 <mickeyl> replace with empty files
Apr 05 20:30:24 <mrmoku> moment
Apr 05 20:30:26 <mickeyl> and then use SaveScenario
Apr 05 20:30:34 <mickeyl> after tweaking with alsamixer
Apr 05 20:30:55 <mickeyl> bbi1h, wife duty
Apr 05 20:31:15 <mrmoku> mickeyl: that makes it start :)
Apr 05 20:31:27 <mrmoku> thanks
Apr 05 20:43:14 <tim_abell> spaetz, http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/528
Apr 05 20:44:48 <tim_abell> is that good or bad from your point of view?
Apr 05 20:53:19 <mrmoku> mickeyl: regetting the state files from openwrt and converting them to the new format worked too :)
Apr 05 20:53:23 <mrmoku> sorry for the noise
Apr 05 20:53:26 <spaetz> tim_abell: that is good. It means I just need to bump the fso* stuff. which is easy.
Apr 05 20:53:45 <spaetz> I will do it over the course of this week.
Apr 05 20:56:34 <tim_abell> spaetz, can you just take the individual fix, or is that asking too much?
Apr 05 20:58:01 <tim_abell> spaetz, this is the relevant conversation on shr-user list http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2010-April/004383.html
Apr 05 20:58:22 <tim_abell> http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2010-April/thread.html#4383
Apr 05 20:59:05 <mickeyl> mrmoku: no problem, but still fsodeviced should be more robust against such things...
Apr 05 20:59:06 <spaetz> tim_abell, i'll bump the version to include the fix. adding individual patches is a pain.
Apr 05 20:59:21 <spaetz> thanks for the link.
Apr 05 20:59:23 <tim_abell> spaetz, ok, no worries, just wondering
Apr 05 20:59:44 <tim_abell> perhaps we need to nail that when shr-stable becomes a reality
Apr 05 20:59:55 <tim_abell> maybe i'll be able to help by then
Apr 05 21:00:37 <tim_abell> spaetz, would you mind dropping a reply to the list when it's in the feeds so i know when to update?
Apr 05 21:01:01 <tim_abell> my phone is quite borked at the mo, and i haven't managed to apply the workaround successfully
Apr 05 21:01:24 <tim_abell> gotta run, thanks spaetz 
Apr 05 21:02:01 <spaetz> yep, will do
Apr 05 21:03:00 <leviathan> GNUtoo: I'll sleep now
Apr 05 21:03:05 <leviathan> it still hangs
Apr 05 21:03:14 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 05 21:03:14 <leviathan> http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~davidlan/downloads/OE/htcdream/images/htcdream/
Apr 05 21:03:26 <leviathan> but its now loading at all
Apr 05 21:03:39 <leviathan> next step is to remove hanging and make the size flashable
Apr 05 21:03:50 <leviathan> I guess it has something to do with configuration
Apr 05 21:03:53 <leviathan> I'll try
Apr 05 21:04:00 <leviathan> tomorrow
Apr 05 21:41:14 <TAsn> ff
Apr 05 21:41:22 <TAsn> gnome upgrade (arch) messed everything up :P
Apr 05 21:41:27 <TAsn> Everything is now weird :)
Apr 05 21:41:33 <TAsn> (they changed a couple of stuff in gnome)
Apr 05 21:41:41 <mrmoku> your next chance ;)
Apr 05 21:41:52 <mrmoku> maybe this time you'll make it :P
Apr 05 21:44:35 <DocScrutinizer-8> mrmoku: messing with alsamixer once again? :-P
Apr 05 21:45:15 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer-8: without wanting :P
Apr 05 21:49:48 <TAsn> mrmoku, what are you doing with alsamixer? :P
Apr 05 22:02:30 <mrmoku> TAsn: nothing... just had broken state files that caused fsodeviced to seg
Apr 05 22:02:40 <TAsn> :P
Apr 05 22:03:12 <TAsn> vala segs more than C ;P
Apr 05 22:06:03 <mrmoku> hehe
Apr 05 22:09:01 <mickeyl> heh
Apr 05 22:09:29 <mickeyl> shall i switch back to python?
Apr 05 22:09:38 <mickeyl> want to trade the segfault for a traceback?
Apr 05 22:12:02 <spaetz> noooo!
Apr 05 22:12:10 <TAsn> mickeyl, traceback and memory usage, yummy.
Apr 05 22:12:15 <spaetz> vala ftw
Apr 05 22:12:56 <TAsn> j/k, I love the vala versions, which reminds me.
Apr 05 22:13:04 <TAsn> mrmoku, libphone-ui, how does it work?
Apr 05 22:17:39 <mickeyl> ~lart wakelocks
Apr 05 22:17:39 * apt forces wakelocks to use Outlook Express
Apr 05 22:17:48 <TAsn> lol.
Apr 05 22:17:52 <TAsn> apt is amazingly funny :)
Apr 05 22:18:46 <wpwrak> TAsn: "i made you an installation but i eated it" ?
Apr 05 22:18:58 <wpwrak> mickeyl: well done ;-)
Apr 05 22:19:16 <TAsn> wpwrak, huh? (I don't do LOLcatz)
Apr 05 22:26:16 <mrmoku> TAsn: (libphone-ui) some segs found and fixed... others I don't understand
Apr 05 22:26:42 <TAsn> mrmoku, don't understand = playya's fault and he knows about them and he's going to fix them? :P
Apr 05 22:27:15 <mrmoku> TAsn: well... I have to talk to playya before I can answer that question :P
Apr 05 22:27:47 <mrmoku> probably I'm doing something wrong for some stuff
Apr 05 22:27:48 <TAsn> btw, call me a chauvinist or whatever, I don't care, but I'm still amazed a hot girl just kicked my ass in UT3 (lan party)
Apr 05 22:28:10 <mrmoku> hehe
Apr 05 22:28:36 <mrmoku> probably you have been distracted ;)
Apr 05 22:28:38 <TAsn> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/d41d5311a6313b12df98e4c072dc02b3.png <-- hot girls in scap.
Apr 05 22:28:43 <TAsn> mrmoku, mostly.
Apr 05 22:29:09 <wpwrak> mrmoku: do you think he had enough presence of mind to realize he was distracted ?
Apr 05 22:29:24 <mrmoku> wpwrak: probably not :)
Apr 05 22:29:43 <TAsn> When she came in, I was like: *playing, seeing her, playing again, WTF?!, drifting, WTF?!*
Apr 05 22:29:53 <TAsn> You don't expect a hot girl in a lan party
Apr 05 22:30:12 <TAsn> especially not a hot girl that makes you look like the girl :P
Apr 05 22:30:32 <TAsn> at first, we didn't believe the scores, we thought someone else is playing in her nick, and he's playing is some elses
Apr 05 22:31:41 <wpwrak> TAsn: well, when it all is done, we expect a full report, including pictures documenting your failures :)
Apr 05 22:31:54 <TAsn> wpwrak, haha :P
Apr 05 22:32:08 <TAsn> wpwrak, it's already done (after 12+ hours)
Apr 05 22:32:38 <TAsn> (she came with someone, so doing something other than gaming wasn't an option)
Apr 05 22:32:47 <TAsn> well, enough with the chauvinism :P
Apr 05 22:33:05 <TAsn> in the end, the guy with the iPhone got the girl :P
Apr 05 22:33:24 <misc> there is a app for that too ?
Apr 05 22:35:30 <PaulFertser> We could write a clone but i'm afraid it'd require 15 minutes of perl+bash scripting (to fine-tune the variables according to a particular situation) just to start it.
Apr 05 22:37:17 <TAsn> misc, seems so. :P
Apr 05 22:37:29 <TAsn> PaulFertser, :P
Apr 05 22:37:34 <TAsn> <TAsn> Hey, just read in the release notes about: "When you choose multiple keyboard layouts the status icon automatically appears in the notification area."
Apr 05 22:37:34 <TAsn> <TAsn> I consider this as a regression, is there a way to disable that?
Apr 05 22:37:39 <TAsn> what I wrote in #gnome
Apr 05 22:37:50 <TAsn> lets hope they are not the wanking monkeys linus said they are :P
Apr 05 22:37:59 <PaulFertser> they are :(
Apr 05 22:38:06 * mrmoku thinks TAsn will install kde tomorrow :P
Apr 05 22:38:20 <misc> TAsn: what do you want to disable ? the applet ?
Apr 05 22:39:08 <TAsn> misc, it's not an applet anymore :(
Apr 05 22:39:12 <TAsn> (for some dumb reason)
Apr 05 22:39:22 <misc> TAsn: for gnome-shell migration, no ?
Apr 05 22:39:23 <TAsn> "The GNOME Keyboard Indicator has been removed from GNOME Applets. If you use more than one keyboard layout, the GNOME Keyboard Indicator will now automatically appear in your tray via gnome-system-daemon."
Apr 05 22:39:26 <TAsn> it's listed as a feature.
Apr 05 22:39:48 <TAsn> <borschty> in the git head version yes, in the latest release version no
Apr 05 22:39:48 <TAsn> <borschty> wait till 2.30.1, that should include this
Apr 05 22:40:10 <TAsn> They are partially wanking monkeys, I don't get how they can release this in stable without including this elementary feature, but whatever :P
Apr 05 22:40:48 <misc> well, i guess because no one coded it in time :)
Apr 05 22:41:23 <TAsn> so don't release the sucky "remove the keyboard applet" feature
Apr 05 22:41:36 <TAsn> leave it in a branch.
Apr 05 22:42:00 * misc still do not understand what TAsn want 
Apr 05 22:43:31 <TAsn> misc, there used to be a keyboard indicator widget
Apr 05 22:43:39 <TAsn> that says what language is on.
Apr 05 22:43:46 <TAsn> I hated it, so I never added it.
Apr 05 22:43:51 <TAsn> (I use numlock led instead)
Apr 05 22:43:58 <TAsn> *scrolllock
Apr 05 22:44:14 <misc> TAsn: ok, i understand more :)
Apr 05 22:44:17 <TAsn> anyhow, in .30 they remove the widget completely 
Apr 05 22:44:39 <TAsn> and added a default, can't change/remove/add/relocate "widget" instead.
Apr 05 22:44:57 <TAsn> Which is something I just don't understand.
Apr 05 22:45:40 <misc> i think that's part of the cleaning for 3.0 ( remove old unmaintained api, etc )
Apr 05 22:46:07 <TAsn> misc, I bet it is, I just don't get why the keyboard indicator is not a widget anymore.
Apr 05 22:46:32 <TAsn> it's a tray icon instead.
Apr 05 22:46:55 <TAsn> and the new default icon theme is weird :P
Apr 05 22:46:59 <TAsn> But I can live with it.
Apr 05 22:47:03 <TAsn> In some part it's nicer.
Apr 05 22:47:09 <TAsn> parts*
Apr 05 22:48:14 <TAsn> Ok, I think it's that time of day.
Apr 05 22:48:19 <TAsn> I decided to go to bed.
Apr 05 22:48:25 <TAsn> have decided*
Apr 05 22:48:37 <misc> again ? but you slept already yesterday :) 
Apr 05 22:48:48 <TAsn> misc, No I haven't.
Apr 05 22:48:55 <TAsn> Well, not really.
Apr 05 22:48:56 <misc> oh, then it is ok 
Apr 05 22:49:03 <TAsn> I went to sleep at ~6:45 am
Apr 05 22:49:12 <TAsn> and woke up at 9:50am
Apr 05 22:49:20 <TAsn> so I think I deserve a bit of sleep.
Apr 05 22:49:33 <TAsn> (after a long day of seating on a chair and loosing to a hot chick)
Apr 05 22:50:08 <TAsn> I'm still amazed she kicked my ass :)
Apr 05 22:50:09 <TAsn> Night.
Apr 05 22:50:51 <mrmoku> TAsn: hehe... have nice dreams of your kicked ass :P
Apr 05 22:50:56 * mrmoku off to bed too
Apr 05 22:51:09 <mrmoku> gnight
Apr 05 22:51:31 <TAsn> Omg, I'm such a trend setter :P
Apr 05 22:51:45 <TAsn> mickey|zzZZzz and mrmoku|away are my followers.
Apr 05 22:51:49 <TAsn> :)(
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