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Apr 16 04:32:24 <JaMa> moin
Apr 16 07:33:37 <JaMa> mrmoku: what is changed in phoneuid/fsogsmd .ipk in http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/fsogsmd/ ? is the rest just HEAD of fso-glib branches?
Apr 16 07:34:39 <mrmoku> JaMa: minus some still uncommitted stuff :/
Apr 16 07:34:53 <mrmoku> which mostly is not yet working WIP
Apr 16 07:35:10 <mrmoku> started to clean it
Apr 16 07:35:42 <mrmoku> JaMa: btw. phonefsod in tests/mrmoku/fsogsmd is _older_ than HEAD
Apr 16 07:35:55 <JaMa> minus or plus? ;)
Apr 16 07:36:18 <mrmoku> phonefsod (which is the important one for the switch) is clean and everything is pushed
Apr 16 07:36:25 <mrmoku> same for libphone-ui I think
Apr 16 07:36:33 <mrmoku> just in libphone-ui-shr I have unclean stuff 
Apr 16 07:36:49 <JaMa> ok I have first 3 built locally from fso-glib HEAD, but what is in phoneuid/fsogsmd .ipks?
Apr 16 07:36:52 <mrmoku> (which I did not commit yet as it's not working :P)
Apr 16 07:37:28 <mrmoku> phoneuid is just built against libfso-glib _and_ lfg
Apr 16 07:37:39 <JaMa> ah ok..
Apr 16 07:37:46 <mrmoku> fsogsmd was newer than what was in the feed at that time
Apr 16 07:37:55 <JaMa> I'll wait.. because my internet conn. is really crappy today :/
Apr 16 07:37:55 <mrmoku> should be obsolete now
Apr 16 07:38:07 <JaMa> thanks a lot
Apr 16 07:38:10 <mrmoku> np
Apr 16 07:38:18 <mrmoku> hopefully we will switch soon
Apr 16 07:38:24 <mrmoku> as I'm really happy now
Apr 16 07:38:27 <mrmoku> everything is a lot faster :)
Apr 16 07:38:31 * JaMa will buy Assassins creed 2 instead :)
Apr 16 07:38:38 <mrmoku> :P
Apr 16 07:38:40 <mrmoku> bbiab
Apr 16 07:38:45 <JaMa> yup and less mem eaten by snake!
Apr 16 08:38:03 <spaetz> fsogsmd coming soon to a theatre near you?
Apr 16 08:38:59 <mrmoku> spaetz: YES :D
Apr 16 08:56:08 <TAsn> and hopefully it'll be a box office hit.
Apr 16 08:56:54 <spaetz> Yay, avatar will be peanuts compared to fsogsmd
Apr 16 08:58:01 <spaetz> dme, hehe. Unfortunately that other world contains mostly non-working linux-based phones....
Apr 16 08:58:06 <spaetz> arrg, wrong window
Apr 16 08:59:18 <PaulFertser> :-O
Apr 16 08:59:39 * PaulFertser wonders what window it was supposed to land in 
Apr 16 08:59:57 <spaetz> I bet :)
Apr 16 09:00:44 <spaetz> PaulFertser: I mispasted FR stuff into #notmuch, so they wondered about "glimpse into a completely other world" :)
Apr 16 09:00:59 <spaetz> about THE...
Apr 16 09:01:00 <PaulFertser> spaetz: haha :))
Apr 16 10:18:58 <mrmoku> playya_: another one I have problems with is free_smartphone_preferences_set_profile
Apr 16 10:19:06 <mrmoku> it segfaults before calling the callback
Apr 16 10:19:15 <mrmoku> but the profile get's set correctly
Apr 16 10:19:30 * mrmoku back after kindergarten
Apr 16 11:21:58 <mickey> ~seen gnutoo
Apr 16 11:21:59 <apt> gnutoo <~GNUtoo@host245-102-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 1d 14h 2m 30s ago, saying: 'ok'.
Apr 16 11:22:16 <mickey> ~seen leviathan
Apr 16 11:22:17 <apt> leviathan <~quassel@ifw-public-dock-145-dhcp.ethz.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 1d 22h 57m 49s ago, saying: 'the mtd driver can't read subpage sizes'.
Apr 16 11:29:30 <JaMa> mwester-laptop: I've built slugos/nslu2be/slugos-image, is it "good" build test or would you advise something else? (IIRC you also said nslu2le, but maybe it was meant LE or BE)
Apr 16 11:30:57 <JaMa> ah AND :) "./oe-2010-04-08:15:48 < mwester_> JaMa,  I suggest you set up an environment to build SlugOS/BE and SlugOS/LE"
Apr 16 11:31:48 <JaMa> the difference is only in MACHINE?
Apr 16 11:35:34 <JaMa> ahh, more coffee please
Apr 16 11:40:05 * spaetz handss JaMa a coffee
Apr 16 11:40:37 <JaMa> thanks
Apr 16 11:41:17 * spaetz just had one too
Apr 16 11:43:54 * JaMa had exceptionally beer for lunch and first thing after lunch is writting to wrong channel, is it coincidence? :)
Apr 16 11:45:27 <mickey> yo leviathan 
Apr 16 11:45:36 <mickey> any progress with your mtd quest?
Apr 16 11:53:25 <leviathan> yeah
Apr 16 11:53:31 <leviathan> hi mickey btw
Apr 16 11:53:42 <leviathan> mickey: yes I got some progress
Apr 16 11:53:54 <leviathan> mailed with the author of the mtd driver
Apr 16 11:55:35 <leviathan> he told me whats the error from
Apr 16 11:55:44 <leviathan> now I'm implementing subpage size reading
Apr 16 11:55:45 <leviathan> :)
Apr 16 11:55:54 <mickey> cool
Apr 16 11:56:03 <mickey> i hope gnutoo is deep in the resume problem
Apr 16 11:57:06 <mickey> construction sites left are gps, bt, and camera then. the latter will probably be too big for us
Apr 16 12:48:23 <spaetz> saving 3 secs on every boot. Would be nice. Good work jama.
Apr 16 12:48:27 <spaetz> I boot often :)
Apr 16 12:49:10 <JaMa> spaetz: I sent those bootcharts more than month ago to shr* list and nobody noticed :)
Apr 16 12:49:32 <spaetz> hehe. Batget starting before sec 40! I love that!
Apr 16 12:49:41 <JaMa> but now I noticed that I'm still doing this "optimization" after each reflash (in my post-reflash script)
Apr 16 12:50:04 <JaMa> so maybe it would be good to push it to oe.dev (really easy to change that there)
Apr 16 12:50:10 <spaetz> People would love that. People would love you! Your girl friend would be envious because everyone would love you!!!
Apr 16 12:50:13 <spaetz> :)
Apr 16 12:54:22 <JaMa> hmm sounds good :)
Apr 16 12:56:41 <JaMa> spaetz: most of it is thanks to devtmpfs.. so the love has to wait for 2.6.32...
Apr 16 12:57:00 <spaetz> yep. I know. But that would be really nice.
Apr 16 12:57:36 * JaMa is pretty much used to faster boot already.. :/ no surprise ahead :/
Apr 16 12:57:44 <JaMa> :)
Apr 16 12:57:52 <spaetz> so then we should all switch :)
Apr 16 12:58:01 <spaetz> what were we waiting for?
Apr 16 12:58:05 <spaetz> fso* stuff?
Apr 16 12:58:13 <spaetz> resume/suspend works now, doesn't it?
Apr 16 12:58:18 <JaMa> it does
Apr 16 12:58:29 <spaetz> cool, I should test it again.
Apr 16 12:58:37 <JaMa> biggest problem I've seen for other is with some uSDs
Apr 16 12:58:49 <JaMa> my is happy with rootwait=7
Apr 16 12:59:06 <JaMa> but some say that even 15s is not enough for them
Apr 16 12:59:14 <spaetz> I see, that's a pity.
Apr 16 12:59:36 <JaMa> or they have problems with ext2 after few reboots
Apr 16 13:00:13 <JaMa> but as I have those problems almost the same as with .29 (happens when I had to remove battery instead clean shutdown few times)
Apr 16 13:00:41 <JaMa> I have probably too good uSD for tests :)
Apr 16 13:01:25 <PaulFertser> I've read some bad opinions about devtmpfs...
Apr 16 13:02:31 <JaMa> do you have a link?
Apr 16 13:03:06 <PaulFertser> JaMa: hm, not really, just an impression i've read some opinions of important guys on LKML.
Apr 16 13:04:20 <JaMa> biggest problem from my POV was when I tried it on my spitz too and CF wifi card which always worked there stoped working, because fw uploading script was triggered by some udevd feature (no longer available with only devtmpfs + libudev)
Apr 16 13:05:22 <PaulFertser> JaMa: yes, firmware uploading is handled by something that listens to kernel events, usually udev.
Apr 16 13:05:24 <JaMa> PaulFertser: and were those opinions also for embedded world or did they apply mostly for normal PCs? because I want udev on my PC but don't need it on neo
Apr 16 13:06:13 <PaulFertser> JaMa: they were about architecture i think, nothing embedded or pc specific iirc. I personally do not care much about the boot time.
Apr 16 13:06:26 <JaMa> PaulFertser: yes.. but few years back there were different mechanisms used.. and just after unifing all in udev I wanted to remove it ;)
Apr 16 13:08:54 <PaulFertser> JaMa: http://lwn.net/Articles/331986/ and the like, linked directly from http://lwn.net/Articles/331818/
Apr 16 13:12:23 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa, (too good sd) my second sd that was eaten during tryin .32 was a sandisk sd with 8 gb, rootdelay was no problem, however
Apr 16 13:16:35 <JaMa> JesusMcCloud: eaten?
Apr 16 13:16:49 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa, filesystem fubar'd
Apr 16 13:17:41 <JaMa> I have some quicker Emtec IIRC
Apr 16 13:19:05 <JaMa> http://www.alza.cz/EN/emtec-micro-secure-digital-transflash-8gb-3v1-d111032.htm
Apr 16 13:20:24 <JesusMcCloud> JaMa, sandisk ultra ii 10/9 mb
Apr 16 13:20:37 <JesusMcCloud> so i'm not sure if speed matters
Apr 16 13:22:10 <JaMa> maybe quicker transfers != quicker initialization
Apr 16 13:22:53 <JaMa> but I have no idea what it does in other FRs..:)
Apr 16 13:23:10 <JesusMcCloud> hmm... well i dont watn to switch to .32 after the filesystems on both my sd cards were nuked
Apr 16 13:25:51 <JaMa> mrmoku/tasn/me didn't have problems with ext2 on .32 and JesusMcCloud/Weiss had IIRC :/, we probably need more testers and someone with not-working uSD to debug it
Apr 16 13:26:13 <JesusMcCloud> hmmm
Apr 16 13:26:45 <TAsn> I never said I was using ext2
Apr 16 13:26:50 <TAsn> But yeah, I was using ext2 :P
Apr 16 13:32:27 <mickey> JaMa: fwiw, fsodeviced contains a firmware uploader :)
Apr 16 13:33:00 <mickey> GNUtoo: hey, how are things?
Apr 16 13:33:16 <GNUtoo> mickey, I'll look into suspend
Apr 16 13:33:31 <GNUtoo> I think powertop activates the following node
Apr 16 13:33:43 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: I have exactly set one... sandisk 8GB SDHC
Apr 16 13:33:49 <mrmoku> s/set/that/
Apr 16 13:34:31 <GNUtoo> /proc/timer_stats
Apr 16 13:34:49 <GNUtoo> looking at it manually may not be a good option
Apr 16 13:34:58 <GNUtoo> powertop may be better than us
Apr 16 13:35:25 <JaMa> mickey: hehe, do you want to spread fso also to devices without any modem (like spitz)? :)
Apr 16 13:36:55 <mrmoku> TAsn: do multiple value fields in contacts from master branch actually work?
Apr 16 13:37:18 <mickey> JaMa: who knows :) i needed it for dream though, we have a wlan chip w/ needs firmware
Apr 16 13:37:28 <JesusMcCloud> hmm then i really dotn get it
Apr 16 13:37:29 <mickey> GNUtoo: hmm, ok. 
Apr 16 13:37:56 <TAsn> mrmoku, I think so.
Apr 16 13:38:06 <mrmoku> TAsn: could you verify please?
Apr 16 13:38:08 <TAsn> What do you want me to test?
Apr 16 13:38:11 <TAsn> will do it now.
Apr 16 13:38:17 <mrmoku> just add two Phone fields
Apr 16 13:38:19 <mrmoku> and save
Apr 16 13:39:15 <TAsn> I cheated, I tested with two "Mobile phone" fields
Apr 16 13:39:17 <TAsn> but it works
Apr 16 13:39:25 <mrmoku> :P
Apr 16 13:39:26 <mrmoku> shit
Apr 16 13:39:37 <Weiss> JaMa: FS problems on 2.6.32?  I find ubifs to be very unstable in the face of unclean shutdowns, but that's it..
Apr 16 13:39:40 <mrmoku> in my branch it removes both :/
Apr 16 13:41:07 <TAsn> mrmoku, my assumption: you did something wrong :P
Apr 16 13:41:16 <mrmoku> not possible ;)
Apr 16 13:41:18 <TAsn> just git diff with master
Apr 16 13:41:28 <TAsn> (just the contacts.c)
Apr 16 13:41:30 <mrmoku> that's my problem... It looks the same :(/
Apr 16 13:41:41 * TAsn will take a look as well.
Apr 16 13:41:50 <mrmoku> yes please :)
Apr 16 13:42:07 * TAsn is looking for every possible excuse to *not* doing homework.
Apr 16 13:45:03 <JaMa> Weiss: ah so you didn't report problems with uSD and .32? so I confused it with your report of ubifs unstable
Apr 16 13:49:47 <Weiss> JaMa: nope.. actually I haven't tested uSD much on .32
Apr 16 13:50:11 <mickey> GNUtoo: to cheer you up... multitouch works fine on dream. we will have lots of work to bring it into tslib and X11, but there's no kernel-hurdle :)
Apr 16 13:50:52 <GNUtoo> mickey, I know,I made the driver tslib without multitouch because of userland
Apr 16 13:51:30 <GNUtoo> btw power+back gives me directly fastboot mode
Apr 16 13:51:39 <GNUtoo> without the need to pass by hboot
Apr 16 13:51:47 <mickey> ah, so you got an engineering bootloader now?
Apr 16 13:53:13 <GNUtoo> no
Apr 16 13:53:17 <GNUtoo> still the same bootloader
Apr 16 13:53:28 <GNUtoo> I just discovered a new set of keys
Apr 16 13:53:31 <mickey> hmm
Apr 16 13:53:40 <mickey> i should try on my g1
Apr 16 13:53:43 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 16 13:53:46 <mickey> but for now the adp1 is ok
Apr 16 13:53:51 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 16 13:53:54 <mickey> when i break it, i try the g1 ;)
Apr 16 13:54:01 <GNUtoo> basically instead of pressing camera+power
Apr 16 13:54:08 <GNUtoo> you press back+power
Apr 16 13:54:10 <GNUtoo> it's faster
Apr 16 13:54:22 <GNUtoo> no need to wait for it checking the sdcard etc...
Apr 16 14:00:26 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rcfa6019f5bbf 10/fsodeviced/conf/palm_pre/fsodeviced.conf: fsodeviced: conf/palm_pre: fix syntax for ignore_by_id (it's ';', not ',')
Apr 16 14:10:46 <GNUtoo> /proc/timer_stats is interesting
Apr 16 14:11:08 <mickey> yea?
Apr 16 14:13:11 <GNUtoo> echo 1 > /proc/timer_stats gives what access the timer
Apr 16 14:15:05 <GNUtoo> http://pastebin.com/VUseJwXS
Apr 16 14:22:49 <GNUtoo> mickey, echo mem > /sys/power/state && sleep 30 && echo 1 >/proc/timer_stats && sleep 60 && echo 0 > /proc/timer_stats running in background + exiting the shell produced that: http://pastebin.com/0kbLDpip (governor set to userspace)
Apr 16 14:23:48 <mickey> what's events/0?
Apr 16 14:23:51 <mickey> and swapper?
Apr 16 14:25:15 <PaulFertser> mickey: events/0 is the default kernel workqueue that runs delayed jobs iirc
Apr 16 14:28:38 <GNUtoo> what's delayed works?
Apr 16 14:28:59 <GNUtoo> something that has to do with suspend?
Apr 16 14:29:55 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo: no :)))
Apr 16 14:30:05 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo: i meant something you put on workqueue.
Apr 16 14:30:20 <GNUtoo> ah ok
Apr 16 14:31:46 <GNUtoo> PaulFertser, how can we debug furthurer?
Apr 16 14:32:57 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo: suspend/resume? I'd disable all wakelocks and such, looked at dmesg, added printk's etc etc. It's hard to explain.
Apr 16 14:33:09 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 16 14:35:33 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo: in general i'd just read the code trying to understand how it's supposed to work.
Apr 16 14:35:40 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 16 14:35:51 <GNUtoo> but reading the whole kenrel is too long
Apr 16 14:36:05 <PaulFertser> It's not when you're focused on a particular question.
Apr 16 14:36:28 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 16 14:37:25 <PaulFertser> Luckily, kernel is mostly well-written. Well, gotta move home, ttyl
Apr 16 14:38:37 <GNUtoo> yes but not android parts
Apr 16 14:38:43 <GNUtoo> ok
Apr 16 14:44:35 <alabd> Good day all , how to open pdf files on shr ? 
Apr 16 14:45:54 <TAsn> opkg install epdfview
Apr 16 14:46:35 <alabd> thanks TAsn 
Apr 16 14:46:39 <TAsn> np.
Apr 16 14:54:14 <alabd> TAsn,  have you work on persian chars separating ?
Apr 16 14:56:18 <alabd> Is there any GUI folder manager in shr ?
Apr 16 14:57:25 <TAsn> no idea what you mean by folder manager
Apr 16 14:57:36 <TAsn> persian chars: I haven't, but I may start soon.
Apr 16 15:01:45 <alabd> TAsn, thanks folder manager like explorer.exe in widnows
Apr 16 15:02:16 <TAsn> I don't do windows
Apr 16 15:02:20 <TAsn> but I can assume what you meant.
Apr 16 15:02:38 <TAsn> You should ask in #e maybe.
Apr 16 15:02:43 <TAsn> How to get the default file manager.
Apr 16 15:05:20 <alabd> nautilus in ubuntu
Apr 16 15:05:48 <TAsn> they don't use nautilus in e
Apr 16 15:05:48 <alabd> ok thanks  a lot god peace you bye 4 now
Apr 16 15:06:00 <alabd> so what ?
Apr 16 15:06:11 <TAsn> I don't remember, that's why I told you to ask :P
Apr 16 15:06:17 <TAsn> But I used to use it.
Apr 16 15:06:29 <alabd> ok thanks  a lot god peace you bye 4 now
Apr 16 15:08:00 <mrmoku> mickey: just for the record... with fsogsmd the PIN auth dialog pops up before X finished loading :D
Apr 16 15:08:30 <mickey> mrmoku: hehehe, cool
Apr 16 15:08:39 <TAsn> mickey, nice work :)
Apr 16 15:08:44 <TAsn> mickey, btw, got a second for a quick Q?
Apr 16 15:08:47 <mickey> sure
Apr 16 15:08:56 <TAsn> mickey, InocmingTextMessage
Apr 16 15:09:01 <TAsn> You also send a timestamp
Apr 16 15:09:09 <TAsn> iirc it's
Apr 16 15:09:12 <TAsn> date,time,timezone
Apr 16 15:09:22 <TAsn> anyhow, date: is it locale based?
Apr 16 15:09:31 <TAsn> or does it have a strict structure?
Apr 16 15:09:35 <mickey> very good question
Apr 16 15:09:38 <mickey> no idea
Apr 16 15:09:41 <TAsn> :P
Apr 16 15:09:50 <mickey> this time is being picked up from the SCSA
Apr 16 15:09:53 <TAsn> Well, for now it's "hardcoded" in opimd
Apr 16 15:10:01 <mickey> i have to check what it actually bases on
Apr 16 15:10:19 <mickey> eventually i'd rather send an epoch anyways
Apr 16 15:10:36 <mickey> transmitting formatted timestamps over dbus sounds.... backwards
Apr 16 15:11:27 <TAsn> rather send an epoch: YAY :P
Apr 16 15:11:38 <mickey> *nod*
Apr 16 15:11:45 <mickey> doing it in the other APIs as well
Apr 16 15:11:57 <mickey> leave formatting to the clients / UI
Apr 16 15:12:31 <TAsn> Yep.
Apr 16 15:12:42 <TAsn> Especially since the format is messed up anyway :P
Apr 16 15:12:55 <TAsn> (i.e not good enough to show to the users)
Apr 16 15:12:58 <TAsn> with the ,
Apr 16 15:13:08 <TAsn> as delimiters
Apr 16 15:16:28 <mickey> right
Apr 16 15:17:56 <TAsn> sweet, let me know when you ship timestamp/epoch instead of what's done now so I'll be able to adjust opimd.
Apr 16 15:18:11 <mickey> yep
Apr 16 15:18:24 <mickey> going to revisit SMS next week
Apr 16 15:18:38 <mickey> bbl
Apr 16 15:18:57 <TAsn> Great, ciao, thanks.
Apr 16 15:35:47 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r06510359df3e 10/src/ (phoneui-utils-sim.c phoneui-utils-sim.h): phoneui-utils-sim: add phoneui_utils_sim_auth_status_get
Apr 16 15:35:52 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rf810174fdb2d 10/src/phoneui-utils-sim.c: phoneui-utils-sim: fix sending PIN
Apr 16 16:03:53 <mrmoku> playya: ping
Apr 16 16:04:18 <playya> pong
Apr 16 16:04:21 <PaulFertser> (defun life (effort will kindness ambition love faith passion sympathy) 0)
Apr 16 16:04:27 <mrmoku> playya: have a minute?
Apr 16 16:04:30 <PaulFertser> I kinda feel that way sometimes...
Apr 16 16:04:34 <playya> yes
Apr 16 16:04:51 <mrmoku> I 'fixed' saving multi value fields by using lfg for that
Apr 16 16:04:53 <mrmoku> (contacts)
Apr 16 16:04:59 <mrmoku> remember my problem?
Apr 16 16:05:12 <playya> yes
Apr 16 16:05:13 <mrmoku> though... now I have the same problem while loading such a contact
Apr 16 16:05:17 <mrmoku> (with libfso-glib)
Apr 16 16:05:31 <mrmoku> it gives me something which I don't know what it is...
Apr 16 16:05:36 <mrmoku> how to find out?
Apr 16 16:05:45 <playya> i think you have to use lfg there, too :/
Apr 16 16:05:53 <mrmoku> :/
Apr 16 16:06:08 <mrmoku> you mean it's just garbage?
Apr 16 16:06:48 <playya> as i said before, i can't see code which handles the array type
Apr 16 16:07:03 <TAsn> playya, don't you use glib-dbus?
Apr 16 16:07:34 <playya> it uses glib-dbus
Apr 16 16:07:46 <TAsn> so it should "just work"
Apr 16 16:08:15 <TAsn> shouldn't it?
Apr 16 16:08:51 <TAsn> Actually, I don't remember how the dbus-glib bindings work from the top of my head.
Apr 16 16:09:02 <TAsn> So I guess I'm just talking nonsense
Apr 16 16:09:03 <TAsn> anyhow, food.
Apr 16 16:12:06 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r6d031bf37f0d 10/fsodeviced/ (5 files in 4 dirs): fsodeviced: add vibrator plugin for omap; enable for palm pre
Apr 16 16:13:44 <playya> there's no handler for DBUS_TYPE_ARRAY
Apr 16 16:18:56 <mrmoku> playya: where do you look?
Apr 16 16:19:10 <playya> libfso-glib/src/freesmartphone-pim.c
Apr 16 16:19:32 <playya> e.g 8879 and following
Apr 16 16:24:21 <mrmoku> playya: hmm... why is _dbus_free_smartphone_gsm_sim_retrieve_phonebook_ready that different from _dbus_free_smartphone_pim_contact_get_content_ready ?
Apr 16 16:25:25 <mrmoku> ahh... ok it has a(iss) as signature...
Apr 16 16:26:13 <mrmoku> instead GetContent of pim has a{sv}
Apr 16 16:26:30 <mrmoku> sucks
Apr 16 16:26:48 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r3c2636cceeb0 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): add org.freesmartphone.Device.Proximity; a DBus interface for proximity sensors
Apr 16 16:33:03 <mrmoku> ok... will think about it while eating :P
Apr 16 16:33:08 <mrmoku> bbl
Apr 16 16:36:27 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r3cfb6bce5255 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): add org.freesmartphone.Device.AmbientLight; a DBus interface for ambient light sensors
Apr 16 16:53:50 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2f174c7e0425 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/interfaces.vala: 
Apr 16 16:53:51 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: libfsoframework: add well-known object paths and interface names for
Apr 16 16:53:51 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.Device.Proximity and org.freesmartphone.Device.AmbientLight
Apr 16 16:55:56 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, i noticed something, while creating a new contact, no call screen shows up. i cancelled creating the contact and the call screen showed up, is this known?
Apr 16 17:00:44 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r6a0067acf026 10/fsodeviced/ (6 files in 4 dirs): fsodeviced: add build skeleton for new plugins ambientlight_palmpre and proximity_palmpre
Apr 16 17:09:14 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: illume2?
Apr 16 17:20:00 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, nope illume1
Apr 16 17:20:41 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: hmm... it is not related in any way with adding a contact though :/
Apr 16 17:20:45 <JesusMcCloud> here's what i did: create new contact from phonelog, and someone called, just try
Apr 16 17:21:04 <mrmoku> is it repeatable?
Apr 16 17:22:33 <JesusMcCloud> hmm well havent tried.
Apr 16 17:23:14 <JesusMcCloud> hmmm but my internet came with a landline... that i haven't configured, but there shoudl be a softphone
Apr 16 17:24:00 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, you say its not related to creatign contact, is this also a problem when editing an existing contact? (i switched through EVERY window before realizing call screen is not there)
Apr 16 17:26:00 <JesusMcCloud> mrmoku, might be quicker if you try it since you got someone else around the house...
Apr 16 17:30:10 <JesusMcCloud> anyways tomorow soemone's coming over i'll try then, gotta get me some food now though
Apr 16 17:30:37 * mrmoku fires sflphone
Apr 16 17:31:23 <mrmoku> JesusMcCloud: can't repeat that here... and then my system is quite different
Apr 16 17:31:26 <mrmoku> new kernel
Apr 16 17:31:27 <mrmoku> fsogsmd
Apr 16 17:31:30 <mrmoku> new phoneuid stuff
Apr 16 17:31:49 <mrmoku> but the call window popped up while editing a contact
Apr 16 17:32:15 <JesusMcCloud> ok... will try tomorrow then (though if it is gone it doenst matter since i your stuff will hit the feeds anyways sooner or later
Apr 16 17:32:28 <JesusMcCloud> well then... mahlzeit!
Apr 16 17:32:32 <mrmoku> hope so
Apr 16 17:32:34 <mrmoku> mahlzeit
Apr 16 17:56:21 <mickeyl> mrmoku: btw., i guess you already seen that 'display name' is better to use than 'provider name'
Apr 16 18:04:57 <mrmoku> mickeyl: ohh... forgot about that... read something yep
Apr 16 18:05:02 <mrmoku> mickeyl: thanks for the reminder
Apr 16 18:06:43 <mickeyl> np
Apr 16 18:06:49 <mrmoku> mickeyl: not yet documented?
Apr 16 18:06:53 <mickeyl> yes, sorry
Apr 16 18:06:56 <mickeyl> will do as we speak
Apr 16 18:07:00 <mrmoku> ok... key is 'display' ?
Apr 16 18:07:04 <mickeyl> let me check
Apr 16 18:07:32 <mickeyl> yes
Apr 16 18:07:37 <mickeyl> funny thing is they don't seem to update the long provider name when they get aquire
Apr 16 18:07:37 <mickeyl> d
Apr 16 18:07:48 <mickeyl> as such, O2 still reports as Viac Interkom in the long name
Apr 16 18:07:51 <mickeyl> which is slightly misleading
Apr 16 18:08:03 <mrmoku> hehe
Apr 16 18:08:04 <mrmoku> yep
Apr 16 18:08:14 * mrmoku worked half day for Viag Interkom :P
Apr 16 18:08:27 <mickeyl> ah, cool
Apr 16 18:08:34 <mrmoku> well...
Apr 16 18:08:40 <mickeyl> no? :)
Apr 16 18:08:40 <mrmoku> call center
Apr 16 18:08:53 <mrmoku> and... only half day
Apr 16 18:08:58 <mrmoku> I do _not_ mean part time ;)
Apr 16 18:09:05 <mrmoku> decided it's not for me
Apr 16 18:09:32 <mrmoku> but they forgot about that and paid half month :P
Apr 16 18:10:04 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rde6242a23881 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.[Get]Status: document 'display' key
Apr 16 18:10:05 <mickeyl> d'oh
Apr 16 18:10:13 <mickeyl> call center is tough
Apr 16 18:11:00 * mickeyl works on sms status reports now
Apr 16 18:11:11 <mrmoku> I was pissed when they wanted to send me to a Excel Schulung the next day :P
Apr 16 18:11:16 <mrmoku> never turned back
Apr 16 18:11:19 <mickeyl> *nod*
Apr 16 18:11:21 <mickeyl> hi daniele_athome 
Apr 16 18:11:35 <daniele_athome> hi mickeyl 
Apr 16 18:11:48 <daniele_athome> hi all!
Apr 16 18:11:58 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, heya!
Apr 16 18:12:01 <mrmoku> mickeyl: btw. did you follow the problems with libfso-glib?
Apr 16 18:12:21 <daniele_athome> hi JesusMcCloud mrmoku 
Apr 16 18:12:26 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: ciao
Apr 16 18:12:35 <daniele_athome> mickeyl, i tested fsogsmd two days ago :)
Apr 16 18:12:41 <daniele_athome> using manual dbus calls (gh :S)
Apr 16 18:12:50 <daniele_athome> but a simple outgoing call worked :)
Apr 16 18:13:02 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: using it for over a week now... and it's great
Apr 16 18:13:09 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, i just tried mokosuite yesterday (the tarball you upped to telefoninux forums) how the heck does one pop up the kbd?
Apr 16 18:13:16 <daniele_athome> mrmoku, so phonefsod is already compatible with it?
Apr 16 18:13:23 <mrmoku> in my branch yes
Apr 16 18:13:42 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: phonefsod is using libfso-glib now though
Apr 16 18:13:44 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, for now there is a temporary solution
Apr 16 18:13:52 <daniele_athome> sending SIGUSR1 to a process to pop out the keyboard
Apr 16 18:14:04 <daniele_athome> *pop up
Apr 16 18:14:08 <daniele_athome> and SIGUSR2 to close it
Apr 16 18:14:33 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, ???
Apr 16 18:14:35 <daniele_athome> but that feature is not that tarball, it's in svn
Apr 16 18:14:40 <JesusMcCloud> ah ok
Apr 16 18:14:41 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, keyboard is not yet implemented
Apr 16 18:14:44 <daniele_athome> :)
Apr 16 18:15:06 <daniele_athome> the "keyboard with signals" it's just a temporary solution in the meanwhile I develop something better
Apr 16 18:15:12 <daniele_athome> actually I would like to use illume keyboard
Apr 16 18:15:22 <daniele_athome> but still had no time to configure illume2 properly
Apr 16 18:15:30 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, should be possible with illume2
Apr 16 18:15:37 <daniele_athome> i know
Apr 16 18:15:46 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r245d14b48ec7 10/src/view/idle-view.c: idle-view.c: use display instead of provider
Apr 16 18:15:52 <daniele_athome> actually I need to remove everything, I will use only the keyboard and the base WM
Apr 16 18:15:57 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r9c3f66a2b63a 10/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): sim-auth-input: convert to ui-utils and libfso-glib
Apr 16 18:16:04 <JesusMcCloud> make mokohome the homescreen, and use the keybindings settings for aux/power...
Apr 16 18:16:17 <mickeyl> mrmoku: no, which problems are there in libfso-glib now?
Apr 16 18:16:36 <JesusMcCloud> (andd yes kick out everything else (and make your panel the toppanel)
Apr 16 18:16:46 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, exactly :)
Apr 16 18:17:06 <daniele_athome> but I need to understand illume2 a bit, because as I can see there is something to configure for setting up a custom panel
Apr 16 18:17:13 <daniele_athome> and a custom desktop screen
Apr 16 18:17:17 <JesusMcCloud> i just have to little knowlegde about mokosuite to play around... maybe i'll try this evening... keyboard popup should also work automatically then
Apr 16 18:17:40 <daniele_athome> with illume2 yes :)
Apr 16 18:17:43 <mrmoku> mickeyl: sending a strv in a boxed gvalue does not work
Apr 16 18:17:49 <JesusMcCloud> dan the quickest way for now is just to kick out softkey, change keybindings, sand set topbar and home screen
Apr 16 18:18:06 <JesusMcCloud> s/dan/daniele_athome/
Apr 16 18:18:06 <apt> JesusMcCloud meant: daniele_athome the quickest way for now is just to kick out softkey, change keybindings, sand set topbar and home screen
Apr 16 18:18:24 <daniele_athome> mmm let me try if I can do something quickly now
Apr 16 18:19:20 <mickeyl> mrmoku: hmm, i'm afraid that's chinese for me and i have to look the meanings up
Apr 16 18:19:39 <mickeyl> i know that we have problems with arrays in gvalues
Apr 16 18:19:43 <mickeyl> this is not implemented in vala
Apr 16 18:19:51 <mickeyl> what's the difference of a str and a strv?
Apr 16 18:20:24 <mrmoku> mickeyl: array of char* 
Apr 16 18:21:04 <mickeyl> ah
Apr 16 18:21:04 <mrmoku> mickeyl: same with GPtrArray
Apr 16 18:21:07 <mickeyl> then we talk about the same thing
Apr 16 18:21:09 <mickeyl> right?
Apr 16 18:21:39 <mickeyl> i need to pester Jürg to take a look at that
Apr 16 18:21:41 <mrmoku> yeah
Apr 16 18:21:43 <mrmoku> :)
Apr 16 18:22:04 <mrmoku> for now we live with a mixed double... libfso-glib + libframeworkd-glib :/
Apr 16 18:22:06 <mickeyl> basically dbus' GValue support does not know about arrays in Value
Apr 16 18:22:17 <mickeyl> it's no fun for me either on the server side
Apr 16 18:22:25 <mickeyl> i will continue to pester him
Apr 16 18:22:29 <mrmoku> good
Apr 16 18:24:06 <daniele_athome> what is the L/R button in illume2?
Apr 16 18:25:36 <daniele_athome> rightclick toggle :)
Apr 16 18:29:35 <mrmoku> ahh
Apr 16 18:29:37 <mrmoku> yes
Apr 16 18:29:45 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: right click toggle
Apr 16 18:30:08 <daniele_athome> home screen is working
Apr 16 18:30:24 <daniele_athome> mrmoku, is there a way to launch illume settings without using the indicator button?
Apr 16 18:30:29 <daniele_athome> ie a dbus call
Apr 16 18:30:51 <mrmoku> dunno
Apr 16 18:31:41 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, enlightenment_remote might be waht you're looking for
Apr 16 18:31:56 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, it's a little limited
Apr 16 18:32:01 <daniele_athome> s/little/bit/
Apr 16 18:32:02 <apt> daniele_athome meant: JesusMcCloud, it's a bit limited
Apr 16 18:33:03 <daniele_athome> and enlightenment is not configured for remote dbus by default
Apr 16 18:33:04 <daniele_athome> lol
Apr 16 18:33:04 <JesusMcCloud> i'm trying illume2 here myself... (just checkling logs on which files to modify)
Apr 16 18:33:19 <daniele_athome> mokohome is working very well
Apr 16 18:41:26 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, i dotn find the mokosuite windows in the window list in illume2 to set home etc...
Apr 16 18:41:43 <daniele_athome> me neither... i can find only home screen
Apr 16 18:41:46 <daniele_athome> but not the others...
Apr 16 18:41:46 <daniele_athome> mmm
Apr 16 18:42:39 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, i'll experiment a little more...
Apr 16 18:42:49 <daniele_athome> the background window... gggrrr
Apr 16 18:42:52 <daniele_athome> should get away
Apr 16 18:45:02 <mickeyl> hah!
Apr 16 18:45:06 * mickeyl dances a jig
Apr 16 18:45:21 <mickeyl> 2010-04-16T18:44:43.199582Z [WARN]  QualcommHtcModem <>: No handler for URC +CDS w/ rhs 26, please report to Mickey <smartphones-userland@linuxtogo.org>
Apr 16 18:45:41 <mickeyl> so far so good
Apr 16 18:46:05 <mickeyl> now i just need to catch that URC, parse the PDU and then send a StatusReport signal
Apr 16 18:47:53 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, root@om-gta02 ~ $ ./tmp/mokosuite/mokopanel 
Apr 16 18:47:53 <JesusMcCloud> ./tmp/mokosuite/mokopanel: error while loading shared libraries: libmokosuite.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
Apr 16 18:48:16 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, include the mokosuite directory in library path
Apr 16 18:48:43 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, i edited /etc/environtment and /etc/ld.so.conf
Apr 16 18:48:50 <daniele_athome> and restarted?
Apr 16 18:49:18 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, ok got it, now i have another pronblem: (sec)
Apr 16 18:49:29 <JesusMcCloud> ** ERROR **: Unable to request panel service name: Connection ":1.66" is not allowed to own the service "org.mokosuite.panel" due to security policies in the configuration file. Exiting.
Apr 16 18:49:56 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, the dbus configuration file :)
Apr 16 18:50:02 <daniele_athome> and then reload dbus
Apr 16 18:50:06 <JesusMcCloud> ?
Apr 16 18:50:33 <JesusMcCloud> enlighten me please, i got a good feeling...
Apr 16 18:51:28 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, in the package there is a file, etc/dbus-1/system.d/mokosuite2.conf
Apr 16 18:51:39 <JesusMcCloud> yes...
Apr 16 18:52:29 <daniele_athome> copy it in /etc/dbus-1/system.d
Apr 16 18:52:36 <daniele_athome> and then reload dbus /etc/init.d/dbus reload
Apr 16 18:52:36 <JesusMcCloud> ok...
Apr 16 18:52:39 <daniele_athome> :)
Apr 16 18:55:40 <daniele_athome> sigh... time is up
Apr 16 18:55:52 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, wait
Apr 16 18:56:12 <JesusMcCloud> the directories you listed are the same
Apr 16 18:56:16 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, ^
Apr 16 18:56:48 <daniele_athome> which one?
Apr 16 18:57:00 <JesusMcCloud> <daniele_athome> copy it in /etc/dbus-1/system.d
Apr 16 18:57:07 <daniele_athome> yes
Apr 16 18:57:15 <daniele_athome> the first path is the path inside the package
Apr 16 18:57:24 <JesusMcCloud> i extraced everything in the image...
Apr 16 18:57:27 <daniele_athome> the package is built to be unpackable directly on root
Apr 16 18:57:29 <JesusMcCloud> sry i got confised
Apr 16 18:57:37 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, so just reload dbus
Apr 16 18:58:01 <JesusMcCloud> i'm gonna ask in #e aroudn alittle
Apr 16 18:58:07 <daniele_athome> very good
Apr 16 18:58:15 <JesusMcCloud> rebooting now to be safe
Apr 16 18:58:17 <daniele_athome> i was trying to edit illume2 configration file
Apr 16 18:58:35 <daniele_athome> it's all so undocumented :(
Apr 16 18:58:42 <JesusMcCloud> i have home already, now i'm struggling with panel
Apr 16 18:58:54 <JesusMcCloud> i am confident to get it working
Apr 16 18:59:34 <daniele_athome> anyway I will need to modify my applications too
Apr 16 18:59:42 <daniele_athome> because illume2 is not configured e.g. for idle screen
Apr 16 18:59:48 <daniele_athome> idlescreen is a splash window
Apr 16 18:59:56 <daniele_athome> the modified version of matchbox that I use now can recognize it
Apr 16 19:00:02 <daniele_athome> but illume2 can't
Apr 16 19:00:23 <JesusMcCloud> should not be a big deal... look at shr-today
Apr 16 19:00:54 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, i dont have gsm...
Apr 16 19:01:17 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, shr-today is a full screen window, is different :)
Apr 16 19:01:24 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, wait a few moments for gsm
Apr 16 19:01:30 <JesusMcCloud> i have gsm now ;)
Apr 16 19:02:26 <JesusMcCloud> but now i have the fucos bug rendering the phone useless...
Apr 16 19:03:00 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, what bug?
Apr 16 19:03:16 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, illume2 has seroius focus issues...
Apr 16 19:03:23 <daniele_athome> i see...
Apr 16 19:03:28 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, use matchbox 
Apr 16 19:03:37 <daniele_athome> there is a .Xsession script in the package
Apr 16 19:03:43 <daniele_athome> should do all automatically
Apr 16 19:05:25 <CIA-75> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * rf780140fa83f 10/src/phoneui-utils-contacts.c: phoneui-utils-contacts: use lfg to query and get contacts too
Apr 16 19:06:32 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, i saw .Xsession i already customized it
Apr 16 19:06:37 <daniele_athome> ok
Apr 16 19:06:54 <daniele_athome> i really have to go now :)
Apr 16 19:07:04 <JesusMcCloud> ciao
Apr 16 19:07:07 <JesusMcCloud> and thanks
Apr 16 19:07:13 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, thank you for testing ;)
Apr 16 19:07:21 <daniele_athome> ciao
Apr 16 19:07:26 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, GOT IT WORKING! (almost
Apr 16 19:07:38 <daniele_athome> :)
Apr 16 19:07:55 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, please send me a memo with memoserv :)
Apr 16 19:07:58 <daniele_athome> i want to know :D
Apr 16 19:08:00 <daniele_athome> byeeeeeeeeee
Apr 16 19:08:05 <JesusMcCloud> ciao
Apr 16 19:14:35 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, ping
Apr 16 20:19:37 <[Rui]> it seems it works something like this: you se alarm for 8:00 (for instance), but it wakes up around 7:30 and starts paying attention to the accelerometers
Apr 16 20:19:46 <[Rui]> as it detects movement, it fires up the alarm.
Apr 16 20:20:23 <[Rui]> this is related to sleep patterns... so as you get to a more awaken state, you likely will start moving a bit
Apr 16 20:31:21 <JesusMcCloud> [Rui], or wait for accelerometer wakeup in fso an work with threshold so you dont waste power
Apr 16 20:31:39 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: it can wake on accelerometer?
Apr 16 20:31:44 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: that's so cool!
Apr 16 20:31:55 <JesusMcCloud> [Rui], afaik not (fully) implemented
Apr 16 20:32:06 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: the recommendation for that other app is to keep the phone plugged for that.
Apr 16 20:32:15 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: it's a must! :)
Apr 16 20:32:25 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: where does it need doing?
Apr 16 20:33:34 <JesusMcCloud> [Rui], i'm not comfortable with having attatched to a cable lying on the mattress.. i dont want to strange myself or my girlfriend...
Apr 16 20:34:15 <JesusMcCloud> read the fso bugtracker for accel wakeup there is something there
Apr 16 20:34:25 <[Rui]> JesusMcCloud: erms... I don't know... the accelerometers are pretty sensitive, I'd guess it could work standing in the border :)
Apr 16 20:34:40 <JesusMcCloud> that si why i said thrashold
Apr 16 20:38:02 <spaetz> yes,  it can wake on accel
Apr 16 20:38:43 <spaetz> it's in one of the bug trackers ;-)
Apr 16 20:38:51 <JesusMcCloud> well there'we got our sleep-tracker
Apr 16 20:39:16 <[Rui]> hms..
Apr 16 20:39:28 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, pong.
Apr 16 20:39:37 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn !
Apr 16 20:39:41 <TAsn> ?
Apr 16 20:40:05 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, you got 15 minutes to try something? (it is completely reversible dont worry)
Apr 16 20:40:22 <TAsn> depends on what it is
Apr 16 20:40:31 <TAsn> I don't have time, but I'm willing to try something amazingly cool :P
Apr 16 20:40:43 <TAsn> so it really depends :P
Apr 16 20:41:07 <JesusMcCloud> mokosuite... i everything working except the panel (i'm using illume2 and the window settings)
Apr 16 20:41:41 <JesusMcCloud> without the panel it is only half as cool...
Apr 16 20:42:00 <JesusMcCloud> i mean you can use illume-indicator, but currently it doesnt look that nice...
Apr 16 20:42:32 <TAsn> bah, too much hassle :P
Apr 16 20:42:43 <TAsn> I'm too tired for that :)
Apr 16 20:42:58 <mrmoku> TAsn: btw. contacts are fixed by using lfg
Apr 16 20:43:03 <TAsn> mrmoku, :)
Apr 16 20:43:07 <TAsn> Figures.
Apr 16 20:43:12 <TAsn> Figured.*
Apr 16 20:43:14 * mrmoku was banging his had against that for two days :/
Apr 16 20:43:31 <TAsn> That's the advantage we have in debugging
Apr 16 20:43:32 <JesusMcCloud> well i already ditched it again because the panel wasn working (depends on startup timing)
Apr 16 20:43:34 <mrmoku> TAsn: yeah... I know... I should have figrued too :P
Apr 16 20:43:49 <TAsn> We "touched" everything in some way or the other
Apr 16 20:43:59 <TAsn> so we can easily do a divide & conquer
Apr 16 20:44:04 <TAsn> to find the broken component :P
Apr 16 20:44:08 <mrmoku> :P
Apr 16 20:44:19 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, I am interested though, got a screenie?
Apr 16 20:44:48 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, nope looks liek android with illume indocator instead of topbar
Apr 16 20:44:59 <JesusMcCloud> and illuem kbd....
Apr 16 20:45:13 <TAsn> oh, it's danielte_athome's project?
Apr 16 20:45:18 <JesusMcCloud> i didched the mokosuite phoen app in favor of phoneui when playing around... that worked nicely
Apr 16 20:45:20 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, yup
Apr 16 20:45:36 <TAsn> Too tired to try that :P
Apr 16 20:45:41 <JesusMcCloud> i want to get it working with illume2 and i'm half way there (well more liek 3/4 way there)
Apr 16 20:45:51 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, I don't get what's wrong.
Apr 16 20:45:57 <TAsn> Explain, maybe I'll be able to help.
Apr 16 20:46:11 <JesusMcCloud> i want the android style topbar!
Apr 16 20:47:23 <JesusMcCloud> but i discovered somethign else... i loaded every window management related module and i could not get a windows switcher working using keybindings... but i could still drop illume-softkey and ise a keybindning to close an app
Apr 16 20:48:28 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, same here.
Apr 16 20:48:46 <JesusMcCloud> i asked in #e but nooene responded
Apr 16 20:49:01 <TAsn> JesusMcCloud, devilhorns is the name you are looking for (don't tell him I snitched)
Apr 16 20:49:17 <JesusMcCloud> TAsn, i am aware f that but this si not an illuem issue
Apr 16 20:49:28 <TAsn> why not?
Apr 16 20:49:41 <JesusMcCloud> missing keybinding option
Apr 16 20:50:06 <JesusMcCloud> this was the biggest showstopper for me... no wndow switchign without softkey
Apr 16 21:28:45 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud: ping
Apr 16 21:32:06 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, pong
Apr 16 21:32:12 <daniele_athome> hey
Apr 16 21:32:16 <JesusMcCloud> caio
Apr 16 21:33:01 <daniele_athome> so, how is going? :)
Apr 16 21:33:31 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, if you could get rid of handling aux an power in mokosuite, the panel is the only thing bugging (and another bug/missing feature in e)
Apr 16 21:33:49 <daniele_athome> aux is actually not handled by any program
Apr 16 21:33:57 <daniele_athome> it should be mapped by E to the close action
Apr 16 21:34:00 <JesusMcCloud> why is it closing apps then?
Apr 16 21:34:20 <JesusMcCloud> hmmm well it doesnt show up in the keybindigs list and i messes things up
Apr 16 21:34:28 <daniele_athome> mmm that's strange
Apr 16 21:34:42 <daniele_athome> I don't manage aux presses at all
Apr 16 21:34:45 <daniele_athome> :O
Apr 16 21:35:04 <JesusMcCloud> well when using matchbox aux closes the curretn app
Apr 16 21:35:18 <JesusMcCloud> and aux is handled someway in panel...
Apr 16 21:35:28 <JesusMcCloud> atleast the panle is watching au
Apr 16 21:35:29 <JesusMcCloud> x
Apr 16 21:36:22 <daniele_athome> ehm no :)
Apr 16 21:36:34 <daniele_athome> do you mean mokosuite panel? 
Apr 16 21:36:38 <JesusMcCloud> yop
Apr 16 21:37:01 <daniele_athome> i'm sorry JesusMcCloud no aux handling by me
Apr 16 21:37:20 <daniele_athome> if you use xmodmap keymap Aux key is mapped to F14
Apr 16 21:37:29 <daniele_athome> maybe it's something else... but I don't know...
Apr 16 21:37:33 <JesusMcCloud> why the heck do i get command line output about aux presses from mokopanel
Apr 16 21:38:34 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, it's the fso signal handler
Apr 16 21:38:39 <JesusMcCloud> ah ok
Apr 16 21:38:41 <daniele_athome> it prints for every input event from fso
Apr 16 21:38:58 <JesusMcCloud> hmm ok
Apr 16 21:39:28 <JesusMcCloud> well i got everything apart from the panel working but keypresses are messy
Apr 16 21:39:55 <daniele_athome> yeah panel doesn't want to show
Apr 16 21:40:09 <JesusMcCloud> i mean the panel was there, but it is covered... but mokohome is placed correctly
Apr 16 21:40:26 <daniele_athome> i see
Apr 16 21:40:46 <daniele_athome> i guess we should configure mokopanel to be considered by illume2 as quickpanel
Apr 16 21:40:50 <daniele_athome> or indicator... (?)
Apr 16 21:40:55 <JesusMcCloud> indicator
Apr 16 21:41:19 <daniele_athome> elementary has a concept of quickpanel that I think is something about the indicator
Apr 16 21:41:44 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, wait a sec i maybe have something for you
Apr 16 21:41:50 <daniele_athome> ok
Apr 16 21:41:59 <JesusMcCloud> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abNsVyYTSkU
Apr 16 21:42:23 <JesusMcCloud> try making the panel a module
Apr 16 21:42:47 <JesusMcCloud> maybe it will work then...
Apr 16 21:43:08 <JesusMcCloud> i mean i already set it as indicator but it kept vanishing... (and i set mokohome a homescreen)
Apr 16 21:43:17 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, no it's not my target
Apr 16 21:43:27 <JesusMcCloud> hm
Apr 16 21:43:35 <daniele_athome> mokosuite shall be kept separated from anything
Apr 16 21:43:35 <daniele_athome> :)
Apr 16 21:43:42 <JesusMcCloud> ok...
Apr 16 21:44:05 <JesusMcCloud> what kind of window type did you set in mokopanel?
Apr 16 21:44:11 <daniele_athome> dock
Apr 16 21:44:17 <daniele_athome> and set as quickpanel
Apr 16 21:44:49 <JesusMcCloud> make it a regular window without any fancy stuff and try again settign it as indicator in illume2 settings
Apr 16 21:44:57 <JesusMcCloud> i'll brb ->laundry
Apr 16 21:45:04 <daniele_athome> ok
Apr 16 21:48:49 <JesusMcCloud> and daniele_athome, can you send me a binary if it worked?
Apr 16 21:49:02 <daniele_athome> of course
Apr 16 21:49:05 <daniele_athome> just a sec
Apr 16 21:49:15 <JesusMcCloud> buya!
Apr 16 21:49:36 <JesusMcCloud> do you have a bitbake recipe for it? (i just got my bb environment working for shr-u)
Apr 16 21:51:10 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, no sorry
Apr 16 21:51:24 <daniele_athome> but I think is pretty simple
Apr 16 21:51:27 <daniele_athome> to make one
Apr 16 21:51:35 <daniele_athome> because it's based on autotools
Apr 16 21:51:45 <JesusMcCloud> it shoudl be but i need an url to a cvs
Apr 16 21:52:30 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, svn: svn://svn.casaricci.it/openmoko/mokosuite
Apr 16 21:52:44 <JesusMcCloud> i'm really courious about the further mokosuit progress (but is it possible that i dont have gsm if i disable mokophone?
Apr 16 21:53:29 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, yes it is
Apr 16 21:53:37 <daniele_athome> mokophone manage gsm functionality
Apr 16 21:53:48 <daniele_athome> it has intentionally been developed like this :)
Apr 16 21:54:29 <JesusMcCloud> crud! i'd prefer a combination of mokohome mokopanel and phoneui, because of opimd contacts (or integrate opimd to mokophone yould also rock!!!)
Apr 16 21:54:52 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, you can still use phoneui :)
Apr 16 21:54:58 <JesusMcCloud> how?
Apr 16 21:55:04 <daniele_athome> start it with X
Apr 16 21:55:11 <daniele_athome> you can read contacts, send and read messages
Apr 16 21:55:14 <JesusMcCloud> ahh xes custom xsessio
Apr 16 21:55:14 <daniele_athome> and make a call
Apr 16 21:55:27 <daniele_athome> the call will trigger mokophone
Apr 16 21:56:18 <JesusMcCloud> hmm well but for now i'm really courious about mokopanel with defautl windows type...
Apr 16 21:58:36 <JesusMcCloud>  URL 'svn://svn.casaricci.it/openmoko/mokosuite' doesn't exist
Apr 16 22:01:07 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, sorry, svn://svn.casaricci.it/openmoko/trunk/mokosuite
Apr 16 22:02:27 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, any nice instructions on how to compile (i want to do it using bitbake so wrap it in a recipe, since it is the only way i know how to crosscompile
Apr 16 22:03:07 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, actually I use a custom script to compile
Apr 16 22:03:13 <daniele_athome> bitbake is too slow
Apr 16 22:03:23 <JesusMcCloud> hmmm ok what prerequisites do i need?
Apr 16 22:03:38 <daniele_athome> shr cross compile environment
Apr 16 22:03:43 <daniele_athome> ready
Apr 16 22:03:48 <JesusMcCloud> i have that
Apr 16 22:03:56 <daniele_athome> so I will send you the script
Apr 16 22:04:01 <JesusMcCloud> nice
Apr 16 22:04:11 <daniele_athome> this indicator stuff is a mess
Apr 16 22:04:18 <JesusMcCloud> why that?
Apr 16 22:04:22 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, now the appears at the center of the screen
Apr 16 22:04:32 <JesusMcCloud> hmmm
Apr 16 22:04:36 <daniele_athome> i need to understand from E devs
Apr 16 22:04:48 <daniele_athome> how the hell is this all managed
Apr 16 22:04:54 <JesusMcCloud> hmm bug devilhorns on #e
Apr 16 22:05:08 <JesusMcCloud> (but send me the script first ;-P)
Apr 16 22:07:30 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, that's the script for mokophone
Apr 16 22:07:34 <daniele_athome> but can be easily customized
Apr 16 22:07:44 <daniele_athome> you can find other scripts in svn
Apr 16 22:07:48 <JesusMcCloud> thanks
Apr 16 22:08:32 <JesusMcCloud> i'll mess around with it a little since i am all loaded on afri-cola wuahahaha
Apr 16 22:08:59 <daniele_athome> lol
Apr 16 22:09:21 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, if you focus on that, I can focus on porting mokophone to fsogsmd/libfso-glib ;)
Apr 16 22:09:36 <daniele_athome> so we will get a fast phone! :)
Apr 16 22:09:48 <daniele_athome> and we can stop (at last) ogsmd
Apr 16 22:10:00 <daniele_athome> hopefully the entire frameworkd
Apr 16 22:10:13 <JesusMcCloud> daniele_athome, i am not a good c/elm programmer, but i will play around with it, also can you port mokophone to opimd?
Apr 16 22:10:27 <JesusMcCloud> why stop the whole framework?
Apr 16 22:10:32 <daniele_athome> because I don't need it
Apr 16 22:10:42 <daniele_athome> except for opimd... yet :)
Apr 16 22:10:55 <daniele_athome> anyway mokophone is using it's own database by now
Apr 16 22:11:03 <daniele_athome> i think I will rewrite my own implementation of opimd
Apr 16 22:11:09 <daniele_athome> using berkeley databases
Apr 16 22:11:13 <daniele_athome> sqlite is too damn slow
Apr 16 22:11:35 <daniele_athome> and in the meanwhile I will port mokophone to opimd
Apr 16 22:11:47 <JesusMcCloud> nice
Apr 16 22:11:48 <daniele_athome> I mean, in the process of developing my own opimd...
Apr 16 22:12:01 <daniele_athome> but one thing at a time :) fsogsmd has the priority
Apr 16 22:12:06 <daniele_athome> i want a fast and reliable phone :)
Apr 16 22:12:37 <JesusMcCloud> did i get it right that it doesnt matter where i placed the mokosuite sources if i run the scripts?
Apr 16 22:12:54 <daniele_athome> yes you got it right
Apr 16 22:13:10 <JesusMcCloud> well i'll test-compile now
Apr 16 22:13:16 <daniele_athome> ok
Apr 16 22:13:20 <daniele_athome> after that I will go to sleep :)
Apr 16 22:13:50 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, with mokopanel opened (using matchbox will be better) have you tried long power button press?
Apr 16 22:14:29 <JesusMcCloud> dont remeber (tried matchbox only vor a very short while
Apr 16 22:14:41 <daniele_athome> ok
Apr 16 22:15:41 <JesusMcCloud> well scripts aint working as i expected them to...
Apr 16 22:15:58 <JesusMcCloud> Couldn't stat mokophone-dbus.xml: No such file or directory
Apr 16 22:16:22 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, install eggdbus devel package
Apr 16 22:16:38 <JesusMcCloud> native?
Apr 16 22:17:52 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, in your system directly
Apr 16 22:17:55 <JesusMcCloud> just installed it on my box but it's stll not working
Apr 16 22:18:03 <daniele_athome> and of course in shr bitbake env
Apr 16 22:18:17 <daniele_athome> JesusMcCloud, can we see it tomorrow please?
Apr 16 22:18:25 <daniele_athome> i'm starting to see double
Apr 16 22:18:38 <JesusMcCloud> sure, buona notte!
Apr 16 22:18:42 <daniele_athome> (anyway i'm not sure about the opimd thing)
Apr 16 22:18:45 <daniele_athome> :)
Apr 16 22:18:48 <daniele_athome> goodnight to you ;)
Apr 16 22:18:53 <daniele_athome> bye
Apr 16 22:18:56 <JesusMcCloud> bye
Apr 16 23:17:25 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07utilities * r321b4d2cacc5 10/palmpre/preboot/src/main.vala: 
Apr 16 23:17:25 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: palmpre/preboot: Integrate with GLib.MainLoop
Apr 16 23:17:25 <CIA-75> freesmartphone.org: connect some callbacks
Apr 17 02:44:34 <JesusMcCloud> DocScrutinizer, ping
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