**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 22 02:59:57 2010 Apr 22 04:47:56 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r76857e8919f3 10/libmsmcomm/ (src/msmcomm.h vapi/msmcomm-1.0.vapi): libmsmcomm: fix signature of msmcomm_launch_daemon and add it to the vapi Apr 22 05:18:48 what's msmcomm? Apr 22 05:22:25 tmzt_: it's for modem in Palm Pre Apr 22 05:22:36 ah nice, more name collisions Apr 22 05:22:54 the 6k in the Pre has it's own custom protocol Apr 22 05:34:32 Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer) Apr 22 05:49:43 DocScrutinizer-8: hey :) Apr 22 05:49:53 Still awake? Apr 22 05:50:00 yo Apr 22 05:50:29 sleepless since monday Apr 22 05:50:33 DocScrutinizer: do you think it worth considering a lot about handling of contacts with multiple phone numbers, is it a common usecase? Apr 22 05:50:46 yes Apr 22 05:50:51 very common Apr 22 05:50:56 Oh, since monday... unfun :( Apr 22 05:51:33 nah, occasionally I kinda enjoy it Apr 22 05:51:55 If you can't do anything about it, you gotta start to enjoy :) Apr 22 05:52:19 sitting in front of kbd paralyzed and sleeptyping Apr 22 05:52:41 DocScrutinizer: what's up, is it the nasty weather or something? Apr 22 05:52:50 dunno Apr 22 05:52:53 :| Apr 22 05:53:41 probably my mainframe needs a ram swap Apr 22 05:53:49 ;-) Apr 22 05:55:29 Heh, mainframe, sounds so cool and uncommon nowadays :) Apr 22 05:57:43 DocScrutinizer: i was finally convinced it's me who should write an emacs interface, so i'm thinking over use-cases, usability etc. Also the level of customisibility is an interesting question: it's either extra code in the package itself or it's the end-user copying-rewriting portions of it in her config, don't know yet where's the sweet spot. Apr 22 06:12:44 hard to tell Apr 22 06:36:06 Heh, i was told yesterday that when i enter the classroom/lab (where my friends and buddies work) i usually start with "And why are you doing it that way? Yeah, tell me why! Why not make it simply with " :D Apr 22 06:36:29 *g* Apr 22 06:39:00 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r31a1d250209b 10/src/phoneui-utils-contacts.c: phoneui-utils-contacts: fix segfault in number/name resolving Apr 22 06:48:52 mrmoku: there was a fix to the phonenumber resolving, to go much faster, is it true? Apr 22 06:50:24 vanous123: dunno Apr 22 06:50:39 you mean opimd part? or phoneuid part? Apr 22 06:51:05 hmm i think opimd, probably by TAsn Apr 22 06:53:16 vanous123: ahh... you mean opimd passing the contact id for messages on request? Apr 22 06:54:12 hmm, not sure, but probably Apr 22 06:54:20 i think it was for PaulFertser Apr 22 06:54:27 and his emacs work Apr 22 06:54:45 is it somethink that can be used in phoneuid too? Apr 22 06:55:51 vanous123: I'm waiting for TAsn to pass the whole contact... which obsoletes name resolving on phoneuid side completely Apr 22 06:56:14 TAsn: ^^ or did you already implement it while being sleepless? :P Apr 22 06:57:05 vanous123: imho tasn allowed PaulFertser to fetch multiple contacts at the same time, or something like that. Apr 22 06:57:10 but not sure, really. Apr 22 06:57:44 spaetz: that's another thing again... to be able to call GetMultipleResults with a count of -1 to get _all_ Apr 22 06:57:59 don't remember if he already implemented it... probably yes Apr 22 06:58:38 spaetz: no Apr 22 06:59:14 spaetz: he started to pass contactid in @contacts field whenever he could resolve a contact and _resolvecontacts: true in request Apr 22 07:02:04 mrmoku: not sure, probably no. And he should make GetMultipleResults work correctly with 1 too. Apr 22 07:09:31 http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html Apr 22 07:11:31 mrmoku: btw, does phoneui handle multiple phone numbers, sip urls, e-mail addresses in any meaningful/usable way? Apr 22 07:17:41 PaulFertser: I hope so, yes Apr 22 07:22:33 PaulFertser: just tried... you can add multiple fields of the same type and for phone numbers you can select them when calling Apr 22 07:22:38 TAsn: shr illume2 config doesn't include illume-home module load + gadget in top bar Apr 22 07:22:59 mrmoku: every field can have multiple phone numbers. Apr 22 07:23:12 yep Apr 22 07:23:14 mrmoku: also how does one select them when calling/writing a message etc? Apr 22 07:23:18 mrmoku: and what about e-mails and sip? Apr 22 07:23:19 TAsn: also gsm gadget shows "None" here and shr-today shows "Tmobile" or "TMO" as before Apr 22 07:23:34 PaulFertser: no emails, no sip Apr 22 07:23:52 PaulFertser: you get prompted a dialog to select the number from Apr 22 07:24:34 JaMa: it shows it correctly when it already is registered when the gadget starts Apr 22 07:26:13 hmm IIRC I restarted xserver with fsogsmd running and registered and it still shown None, but I'm not 100% sure.. (it was a bit late :)) Apr 22 07:26:34 mrmoku: so every time i want to call somebody with multiple numbers/fields i get a dialogue? Ok. Apr 22 07:29:18 PaulFertser: it works also for sms Apr 22 07:31:09 vanous123: hm, i tried it with the version in debian (january-something), it added [ +xxx, +xxx ] to the recipient list. Apr 22 07:31:23 PaulFertser: until there is some opimd method to determine the default number for something... yes Apr 22 07:32:01 JaMa: on suspend/resume you end up with None again Apr 22 07:32:15 mrmoku: are we surely talking about the same thing? I meant the "Phone" field can have either "string" value or a{s} value. Apr 22 07:32:39 PaulFertser: yep Apr 22 07:33:58 freesmartphone.org: 03Martin.Jansa 07cornucopia * r2d93941acf30 10/fsodeviced/ (29 files in 5 dirs): Apr 22 07:33:58 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: add alsa scenarios for 2.6.31 and newer, use alsa-2.6.29 by default Apr 22 07:33:58 freesmartphone.org: * rename old alsa-default to alsa-2.6.29 Apr 22 07:33:58 freesmartphone.org: * add new alsa-2.6.31 based on statefiles from OpenWrt + gsmbluetooth Apr 22 07:33:58 freesmartphone.org: and rename to use same filenames as 2.6.29 scenarios Apr 22 07:33:59 freesmartphone.org: * create link alsa-default -> alsa-2.6.29 Apr 22 07:34:00 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa Apr 22 07:34:19 mrmoku: ah, that could be it, thanks Apr 22 07:34:40 JaMa: looking at the code right now Apr 22 07:35:02 damn Apr 22 07:35:15 fso-abyss is not working again Apr 22 07:35:27 mrmoku: btw: any idea about failing gps? Apr 22 07:35:34 Q-Master: with fsogsmd you won't need fso-abyss again ;) Apr 22 07:35:53 PaulFertser: how to switch? Apr 22 07:36:07 JaMa: is fso-gpsd running? Apr 22 07:36:14 Q-Master: shr-u? opkg upgrade Apr 22 07:36:17 Heinervdm_: yes Apr 22 07:36:38 JaMa: done it just several minutes ago Apr 22 07:36:55 JaMa: and does it connect to the device? Apr 22 07:36:57 fso-abyss yet Apr 22 07:37:01 Heinervdm_: it's posible that only gps reception get worse.. as I tested it only near window @ home Apr 22 07:37:18 JaMa: because fsotdld provides a location api too and needs gps for it Apr 22 07:37:20 Heinervdm_: where it usually gets fix in <10 mins Apr 22 07:37:26 damn Apr 22 07:37:32 I'm an idiot Apr 22 07:37:34 Q-Master: check if frameworkd-config-shr updating worked and ogsmd is disabled in /etc/frameworkd.conf Apr 22 07:37:53 mrmoku: yep just noticed that Apr 22 07:39:36 mrmoku: where should i configure it to use deep sleep Apr 22 07:39:38 ? Apr 22 07:40:34 PaulFertser: ^^ Apr 22 07:44:18 Q-Master: fsogsmd config is in /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02 Apr 22 07:44:38 mrmoku: there's nothing about deep sleep there Apr 22 07:45:29 Q-Master: no idea then Apr 22 07:46:04 Q-Master: oh, no idea, probably not implemented yet. Apr 22 07:46:10 hehe Apr 22 07:46:18 Q-Master: and also no echo suppression :( Apr 22 07:46:42 Q-Master: but the more people will start using it, the faster mickey|zzZZzz'll add the features :) Apr 22 07:46:57 JaMa: plz remove LANG= from /etc/profile and move it to /etc/profile.d/lang.sh Apr 22 07:47:08 8) Apr 22 07:48:09 Hello there! Is the current shr-testing ~ok? DOes it have the tools to move contacts from SIM to opimd? Apr 22 07:48:41 How about wlan? Apr 22 07:48:46 mrmoku: died on incoming sms Apr 22 07:49:05 Q-Master: heh... what part died? Apr 22 07:49:47 mrmoku: I see white screen of illume2 with top bar and bottow 2 buttons Apr 22 07:49:51 nothing more Apr 22 07:50:04 rhkfin: shr-t is now a bit incomplete and still building feeds (hopefully will finish in few hours) Apr 22 07:50:16 JaMa: autch.. I should leave in few hours.. :) Apr 22 07:50:27 how far -unstable is ahead? usable atm? Apr 22 07:50:56 rhkfin: image is built if you don't depend on some apps from feeds it can be fine for you Apr 22 07:51:17 mrmoku: messages are not working Apr 22 07:51:28 rhkfin: -unstable is ahead only few days from shr-t, but big changes landed.. so it's not tested enough yet Apr 22 07:51:33 the image has tools for gps & www? Apr 22 07:51:43 JaMa: so current -testing images are ok Apr 22 07:51:48 all I need, I think, atm.. Apr 22 07:52:34 rhkfin: yes it has and I didn't try them.. Apr 22 07:52:39 ok.. :) Apr 22 07:52:48 Well, do't have much to lose atm.. Apr 22 07:52:49 NOTE: Running task 11484 of 13544 Apr 22 07:52:57 mrmoku: contacts are working. Apr 22 07:53:22 at least something Apr 22 07:53:31 mrmoku: when trying to call - same thing as with sms. white illume2 screen and nothing more Apr 22 07:53:47 flashing.. :) Apr 22 07:54:08 mrmoku: but call runs. Apr 22 07:57:21 TAsn: ping Apr 22 07:57:58 phoneui-dialer segfaults when making a call Apr 22 07:59:06 2010.04.22 09:57:31.520904 [libphone-ui] DEBUG: fired single field request Apr 22 07:59:08 2010.04.22 09:57:31.521540 [GLib-GObject] WARNING: can't peek value table for type `(null)' which is not currently referenced Apr 22 07:59:15 this are the last to line in log Apr 22 07:59:38 Heinervdm_: btw, whould be posible to ignore duplicate contacts when importing from SIM and the same contact exists already in opimd? Apr 22 07:59:43 Heinervdm_: seems same with smses Apr 22 08:00:29 Heinervdm_: when I click "Import All" twice I get all contacts twice which is harder to cleanup later (when it's mixed with new contacts) Apr 22 08:00:30 Q-Master: that one I fixed... needs building probably Apr 22 08:00:48 Heinervdm_: ^^ Apr 22 08:00:51 * JaMa started build Apr 22 08:00:57 mrmoku: ok Apr 22 08:01:10 JaMa: it's on my todo Apr 22 08:02:18 The illume GSM gadget doesn't show the correct status, the welcome screen shows 4 bars, the illume gadget only a * Apr 22 08:05:54 Heinervdm_: with fsogsmd? Apr 22 08:06:44 PaulFertser: yes Apr 22 08:07:22 Heinervdm_: it no longer reports changes of signal stength with Network.Status signal. Apr 22 08:08:03 PaulFertser: so we have to modify the gadget? Apr 22 08:09:55 or is it part of the theme? Apr 22 08:10:03 i can't find the gsm gadget Apr 22 08:10:14 Heinervdm_: shr-e-gadgets... already looking :) Apr 22 08:10:29 mrmoku: ok :) Apr 22 08:11:05 is it posible that ventura does not follow redirects? Apr 22 08:12:43 hm. I want hidden wifi networks usage in iliwi Apr 22 08:14:07 * mrmoku too Apr 22 08:16:32 hi!!! Apr 22 08:16:34 :) Apr 22 08:16:58 hi Apr 22 08:17:00 i'm porting my phone app to fsogsmd, as I see from yesterday upgrade fsogsmd was "inserted" into the system :) Apr 22 08:17:41 I use libframeworkd-glib, and the callstatus signal always gives me status 3 (held) Apr 22 08:18:07 so it doesn't work :( if anyone has already clues i'll be happy to fix it on the fly :) Apr 22 08:18:17 hmm... no spontaneous clue Apr 22 08:18:31 ok I will investigate further Apr 22 08:19:13 btw: updated libphone-ui in feeds Apr 22 08:19:15 daniele_athome: btw. ask mickey|zzZZzz for access to git.freesmartphone.org :P Apr 22 08:19:41 mrmoku, yes, i think at this point it's the right thing to do :) Apr 22 08:19:52 * mrmoku builds shr-e-gadgets to see if he was able to fix something Apr 22 08:20:02 daniele_athome: what's your app? Apr 22 08:20:27 PaulFertser, my phonestack phone application Apr 22 08:20:42 PaulFertser: mokosuite Apr 22 08:21:17 daniele_athome: what is it like and why are you doing that when there's phoneuid? ;) Apr 22 08:21:44 * PaulFertser is now jealous to every phonesuit out there Apr 22 08:21:46 PaulFertser, because i don't like phoneuid UI and the way it is designed (that is, all-in-one-process) Apr 22 08:21:54 :) Apr 22 08:22:12 PaulFertser, actually i'm in love with android, so what i'm doing is like it Apr 22 08:22:26 phone app like android, home screen like android, top panel like android :D Apr 22 08:22:31 all with efl in C Apr 22 08:22:56 daniele_athome: ah, ok, so my emacs mode is safe then, android fans won't use it anyway ;) Apr 22 08:23:06 lol Apr 22 08:23:22 PaulFertser, another thing that made me decide to write a new phonestack was opimd Apr 22 08:23:39 daniele_athome: you don't like it, what's the problem? Apr 22 08:23:43 I was tired of opimd slowness, and I thought that database data should be handled by the app Apr 22 08:23:59 s/app/app itself/ Apr 22 08:24:00 daniele_athome meant: I was tired of opimd slowness, and I thought that database data should be handled by the app itself Apr 22 08:24:39 and I'm using berkeley db for this task, because sqlite is yet too slow Apr 22 08:24:52 daniele_athome: is it really that slow? Can you provide TAsn with an example? Also i think an app should cache lists it uses anyway, opimd provides with convenient signals for updating them on the fly. Apr 22 08:24:53 i'm having quite good results... Apr 22 08:25:21 PaulFertser, I did caching, but write operations were still too slow Apr 22 08:25:38 PaulFertser, do an insert or delete from sqlite3 command line on the FR Apr 22 08:25:42 and see for yourself :) Apr 22 08:26:29 daniele_athome: hm... the beauty of fso concept is that you get many different apps compatible with each other. Here you go another way. Apr 22 08:27:48 daniele_athome: because if the important queries are really that slow with sqlite it would be a strong argument for opimd to switch. Apr 22 08:27:58 PaulFertser, your point is good too, but using berkeley db every applications linking a standard library (e.g. a library for reading call log, messages, etc. directly from bdb) Apr 22 08:28:04 I can obtain the same result Apr 22 08:28:35 I mean bdb can manage easily multiprocess accesses Apr 22 08:28:57 daniele_athome: how will then other apps get notified? Apr 22 08:29:16 daniele_athome: also i can understand the reasoning behind opimd inventing a separate query language. Apr 22 08:29:59 PaulFertser, notifications is another problem ;) I think it's the job for a "central notifier" server, which is a general notification daemon for example Apr 22 08:30:07 of course not the freedesktop one Apr 22 08:30:15 but the idea is that one Apr 22 08:30:24 s/but the idea is that one/that's the idea/ Apr 22 08:30:25 daniele_athome meant: that's the idea Apr 22 08:30:30 (lol) Apr 22 08:30:50 daniele_athome: do you know current opimd way of notifications? Including "Updated" signals for queries? Apr 22 08:31:12 PaulFertser, yes, I used opimd in my python phonestack (the old one, before the one in C language) Apr 22 08:32:21 daniele_athome: i mean if you have particular ideas about why opimd is bad, probably they're worth discussing on the ML so opimd can improve, don't you think so? Apr 22 08:32:52 mrmoku: TAsn: any ideas why messages crashed with 2010.04.22 12:28:15.937405 [GLib-GObject] WARNING: can't peek value table for type `(null)' which is not currently referenced Apr 22 08:32:52 ? Apr 22 08:33:12 alexxy: fix is already building Apr 22 08:33:13 PaulFertser, maybe... but I think first that opimd should be rewritten in C, or vala at least Apr 22 08:33:48 ahh Apr 22 08:33:48 and what I have in mind is an architecture idea... not only opimd improvements :) Apr 22 08:33:49 ok Apr 22 08:34:04 ping me when it will be done Apr 22 08:34:05 daniele_athome: before that it might be beneficial to find particular usage scenarious for it and to formulate "best practicies". Apr 22 08:34:06 =) Apr 22 08:34:08 an idea that involves many parts of fso too Apr 22 08:34:23 also seems i cannot write anything in shr-messages =) Apr 22 08:34:35 alexxy: not yet... investigating Apr 22 08:34:41 daniele_athome: great Apr 22 08:34:43 * mrmoku probably mismerged something else Apr 22 08:34:49 daniele_athome: hope you won't keep it secret for too long ;) Apr 22 08:34:54 the problem is: i'm alone in that Apr 22 08:35:02 PaulFertser, of course I can explain my ideas Apr 22 08:35:05 to the community Apr 22 08:35:23 but both fso and shr are pretty "closed" projects as far as I could see Apr 22 08:35:33 "closed" I mean not open to refactoring Apr 22 08:35:40 and "re-architecturing" Apr 22 08:35:48 of course because it could be a long process Apr 22 08:36:01 alexxy: it was done few mins ago Apr 22 08:36:08 10:19:24 < JaMa> btw: updated libphone-ui in feeds Apr 22 08:36:17 PaulFertser, maybe I will write something and then publish it to some ML Apr 22 08:36:19 ;) Apr 22 08:36:28 daniele_athome: do you read smartphones-standards ML? I can't remember any discussions about your issues there. Apr 22 08:36:31 JaMa: that does not fix the message problem :/ Apr 22 08:36:56 PaulFertser, yes i'm subscribed to that list, but I didn't talk about any of this things Apr 22 08:37:01 always discussed on irc Apr 22 08:37:16 mrmoku: ok, I was just replying to "is already building" :) Apr 22 08:37:21 :) Apr 22 08:38:06 daniele_athome: i see. Well, imho it's great you have ideas and you actually code :) I hope you'll try to discuss api ideas on the ML, something tells me it will be more fruitfull. Apr 22 08:38:14 mrmoku: you mean that one can Apr 22 08:38:26 :) Apr 22 08:38:34 't write a message isn't fixed, or that messages crash? Apr 22 08:39:07 so, now my problem libframeworkd-glib... this evening I will debug my phone app to see what's wrong... Apr 22 08:39:42 crash seems fixed Apr 22 08:39:50 but current issues Apr 22 08:39:55 1 cannot write message Apr 22 08:40:03 2 cannot unlock screen with aux Apr 22 08:40:32 How common it is that on latest -testing the gsm will not start..? Apr 22 08:40:41 alexxy: ok, calling works now after update, so i think sending message too Apr 22 08:40:52 Heinervdm_: the message crash... not sure though Apr 22 08:41:05 mrmoku: message cracsh seems fixed Apr 22 08:41:08 alexxy: to work around the problem that you can't write you can click on continue and then on back Apr 22 08:41:12 alexxy: great Apr 22 08:41:13 but not message riting Apr 22 08:41:25 alexxy: workaround is to press continue and back Apr 22 08:41:30 than you can focus the entry and write Apr 22 08:41:33 ok =) Apr 22 08:42:11 mrmoku: how about unlocking with aux? Apr 22 08:42:59 alexxy: does not work? Apr 22 08:43:12 * mrmoku can't test that as his AUX button is broken again :/ Apr 22 08:43:38 no Apr 22 08:43:55 it unlocks it Apr 22 08:44:07 and immediently locks again Apr 22 08:44:16 unlocking with slider works Apr 22 08:44:49 if i lock with the aux button then i can unlock with aux Apr 22 08:45:06 JaMa: any reports of not-working gsm? Apr 22 08:45:57 alexxy: works here Apr 22 08:50:20 rhkfin: shr-t? probably need still DEBUG in config Apr 22 08:50:32 JaMa: how? Apr 22 08:50:42 mrmoku: now the welcome screen doesn't show the gsm status too Apr 22 08:51:05 Heinervdm_: the idle screen? Apr 22 08:51:07 JaMa: shr-t yes Apr 22 08:51:16 mrmoku: yes Apr 22 08:51:43 hmm Apr 22 08:52:24 rhkfin: http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-devel@lists.shr-project.org/msg02071.html Apr 22 08:52:50 thanks Apr 22 08:53:37 I'm not 100% sure that DEBUG in frameworkd.conf was enough (using fsogsmd long enough to forgot that), also check fso-abyss.conf Apr 22 08:53:44 I'll try.. Apr 22 08:58:50 so far no success.. fso-abyss.. Apr 22 08:59:14 hmm, gps seems funny Apr 22 08:59:26 mdbus doesn show any signal Apr 22 08:59:33 fso-gps is up Apr 22 08:59:44 grspipe -r shows it working Apr 22 09:00:17 vanous123: my suggestion is that it conflicts with fsotdld Apr 22 09:00:32 hmm Apr 22 09:01:15 one should check witch of those two accesses the gps interface Apr 22 09:01:26 i think fsotdld is faster Apr 22 09:01:50 Heinervdm_: I tried killall fsotdld; fso-gpsd restart and it was the same Apr 22 09:01:59 Heinervdm_: but still you're probably right Apr 22 09:02:11 same here Apr 22 09:02:34 Heinervdm_: bug reports were filled after switch to fsotdld and after first boot is maybe fso-gpsd faster, but after suspend/resume fsotdld gets it first Apr 22 09:02:52 JaMa: is there a command to see who is accessing the dev node? Apr 22 09:03:17 yes Apr 22 09:03:18 I guess that lsof would show both, right? Apr 22 09:03:51 + whoa is providing org.freedesktop.Gypsy ? whan both fso-gps and fsotdld are stopped... Apr 22 09:04:01 vanous123: ogpsd Apr 22 09:04:02 s/whoa/who/ Apr 22 09:04:02 vanous123 meant: + who is providing org.freedesktop.Gypsy ? whan both fso-gps and fsotdld are stopped... Apr 22 09:04:06 i see Apr 22 09:04:07 aka frameworkd Apr 22 09:05:03 ok Apr 22 09:05:05 this is it Apr 22 09:05:31 is there no config for fsotdld? Apr 22 09:05:35 stoping fsotdldblabla (what a name...) and restarting framework, restarting fso-gpsd get is working Apr 22 09:06:06 Heinervdm_: it is in default Apr 22 09:06:10 gps_receiver_port = /dev/rfcomm0 Apr 22 09:06:17 is that right? Apr 22 09:06:45 here it is /dev/ttySAC1 IIRC Apr 22 09:06:57 here is rfcomm0 Apr 22 09:06:59 JaMa: in the config? Apr 22 09:07:03 ah maybe its something else.. :) Apr 22 09:07:16 JaMa: so far no success with gsm (both configs changed INFO -> DEBUG) and 2 restarts.. Apr 22 09:07:18 is rfcomm0 the gps dev node? Apr 22 09:08:00 rhkfin: restart framework, this might help Apr 22 09:08:11 vanous123: restarted the whole phone.. Apr 22 09:08:20 all I know is, that I had to mknod ttySAC1 manually (because of devtmpfs) to get any possition at all Apr 22 09:08:29 rhkfin: no, after boot, wait and if no gsm restart framework Apr 22 09:08:33 vanous123: ah, ok.. Apr 22 09:08:51 Will try Apr 22 09:08:53 rhkfin: /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart Apr 22 09:08:56 do not know if rfcomm0 is "receiver" part and ttySAC1 "output" Apr 22 09:09:24 see you this evening Apr 22 09:09:37 i don't have a rfcomm0 dev node Apr 22 09:09:46 but gps isn't running ;) Apr 22 09:10:39 Hello! Apr 22 09:10:50 rfcomm0 is serial over bt, why would we need it? Apr 22 09:10:59 Is there shr-settings for Debian? Apr 22 09:11:15 vanous123: no success :/ Apr 22 09:11:27 rhkfin: you might need to wait Apr 22 09:11:40 vanous123: yes, so if the device is wrong it can't conflict with fso-gpsd Apr 22 09:11:57 Heinervdm_: makes sense Apr 22 09:11:58 vanous123: but perhaps they both provide the same dbus interface Apr 22 09:12:07 that's it Apr 22 09:12:18 after you stop it, all get'đ working, tried here Apr 22 09:12:43 vanous123: stopped what? Apr 22 09:12:55 stopped the fsotdld Apr 22 09:13:05 stopped fso-gsmd Apr 22 09:13:10 restarted framework Apr 22 09:13:15 started fso-gsmd Apr 22 09:13:35 s/fso-gsmd/fso-gpsd/ Apr 22 09:13:36 vanous123 meant: started fso-gpsd Apr 22 09:14:08 McKael: there is a package phoneui-apps Apr 22 09:14:29 but we should probablů point fsotdld to a different gps source Apr 22 09:14:43 misc: oh, would that be "phoneui-quick-settings"? Apr 22 09:14:55 nope... Apr 22 09:14:58 McKael: not sure, I am installing it to test Apr 22 09:15:34 brb Apr 22 09:16:11 seems broken here :) Apr 22 09:17:39 vanous123: 9 minutes now from the restart with no success.. Apr 22 09:18:24 rhkfin: so try restarting framework now? Apr 22 09:18:56 vanous123: I meant 9min from restarting frameworkd. How long I need to wait after boot, before restarting frameworkd? Apr 22 09:19:07 not sure Apr 22 09:19:14 ok Apr 22 09:19:23 couple of minutes Apr 22 09:20:32 misc: it works here, but it's the menu that appears in shr-testing when you hit the power button Apr 22 09:21:30 McKael: then it was not ported i guess :/ Apr 22 09:23:10 hmm, but fsotdld doesn't provide any gps related dbus name... or? Apr 22 09:23:46 vanous123: no idea, we should ask mickey|zzZZzz Apr 22 09:24:24 vanous123: have you tried to drop "fsotdl.provider_gps_nmea" from fsotdld.conf? Apr 22 09:24:35 thinking about it now Apr 22 09:24:36 as well as fsotdl.provider_gps Apr 22 09:25:21 for now it would be safer to drop gps functionality from there and then provide nmea parser + gpsd as plugin or whatever Apr 22 09:25:21 JaMa: i would rather change the receiver_port to something better :) Apr 22 09:26:04 vanous123: if I remember what mickey told me.. you will get only nmea now.. so it's not enough for some apps Apr 22 09:26:13 i see Apr 22 09:29:43 for some obscure reason I have illume-home-togle sometimes shown on desktop instead of topbar Apr 22 09:35:45 JaMa: restarting framework X minutes after startign the phone doesn't bring GSM. Anyway, I need to go now, hope it'll sort out sooner or later.. Apr 22 09:43:09 rhkfin: I'm sorry to hear that :/ good luck Apr 22 09:49:02 rhkfin: i suffered a lot this, this is why i was happy about the move to fso-gsmd, whene it's better, but things still might need to be ironed out a bit... Apr 22 09:51:33 rhkfin: do you have DEBUG in [libgsm0710mux] section of fso-abyss.conf? Apr 22 09:52:01 rhkfin: or did you change it only on top level section? Apr 22 09:53:36 hm Apr 22 09:54:02 illume2 topbar gsm icon shows no network after suspend/resume Apr 22 09:54:09 but everything works Apr 22 10:49:47 mrmoku: have you already filed a ticket about the wrong timestamp in the calls listing? If not, i'll do that myself but i'm not sure what component is wrong, is it opimd responsible? Or do i misunderstand something? Apr 22 10:56:49 PaulFertser: do you know how to add russian keyboards to illume2? Apr 22 10:57:42 Q-Master: no idea, sorry. Was the keyboard module changed in illume2? Apr 22 10:59:01 PaulFertser: don't know, but now I have only 3 dumb keyboards Apr 22 10:59:06 LOL, it would be funny to use russian keybord in emacs the "emacs way". It just activates a special context-specific translation table so one would need to know corresponding russian letters when seeing english vkbd. Apr 22 10:59:44 PaulFertser: probably opimd, not sure though... IIRC mickey|office wanted to change that to report a nice sane timestamp Apr 22 11:00:06 the sms report, yes Apr 22 11:00:19 But the call listing is opimd domain. Apr 22 11:00:20 but this is referring to calls, no? Apr 22 11:00:23 Yes :) Apr 22 11:00:25 right Apr 22 11:00:29 that would be opimd Apr 22 11:00:44 Does anyone able to tell me how to add my own keyboards to illume2? Apr 22 11:00:56 ohh... calls yes Apr 22 11:01:33 mickey|office: btw, we were talking with TAsn the other day about messages. I do not quite understand how to send messages in a sane way: who should store it in opimd and when, and what to do about unsent (no coverage) messages etc. Apr 22 11:02:19 mrmoku: do i understand it right that any "Timestamp" mentioned in API should be a standard unix timestamp? Apr 22 11:02:57 Q-Master: have you tried copying "Terminal Russian.kbd" somewhere to /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume2/keyboards/ ? Apr 22 11:04:00 PaulFertser: yep. didn't help Apr 22 11:04:49 PaulFertser: that's a question of finding the proper separation between opimd and fsogsmd Apr 22 11:05:05 lets brainstorm about what sounds wrong Apr 22 11:05:18 to me it sounds wrong having an unsent or outgoing folder in fsogsmd Apr 22 11:07:08 mickey|office: agree Apr 22 11:08:45 JaMa: commented out #[fsotdl.provider_gps] and #[fsotdl.provider_gps_nmea] restarted and gps is back to normal. Apr 22 11:09:21 PaulFertser, are you using illume or illume2? Apr 22 11:10:26 And, any idea how I can change E's font size under Debian (E's settings don't have any effect...) Apr 22 11:10:55 McKael: illume (1) Apr 22 11:11:26 McKael: hm, i used two places to change fonts to saner defaults Apr 22 11:11:42 McKael: gtk-font-name = "Sans 4" in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc Apr 22 11:14:11 McKael: and probably in E settings Look -> Scaling -> Base DPI 185 (but i'm not sure). Apr 22 11:15:10 LOL. I've locked Enlightenement. No it's asking for a password and I've no keyboard :) Apr 22 11:17:04 mickey|office: it's also a question if opimd is an integral part of the system or not, e.g. if fsogsmd should do anything opimd-specific or just emit signals so opimd can listen to them if it needs. Apr 22 11:17:31 PaulFertser: found it Apr 22 11:17:42 mrmoku: adding contact yet fails. Apr 22 11:18:43 switching is a pain Apr 22 11:19:52 mickey|office: and currently opimd probably doesn't have any means to track statuses of particular messages because there's no common id that is stored along with the message in opimd and that is used by fsogsmd reporting it actually sent (or failed to send) a message, right? Apr 22 11:29:00 vanous123: it didn't help here.. but I'm deep in concrete building and trip to lunch and back wasn't enough for test :) Apr 22 11:29:39 JaMa: got fix here, behind window Apr 22 11:29:55 hmm strace shows some activity now, mmt Apr 22 11:30:06 JaMa: not sure how long after, didn't watch, dayjob... Apr 22 11:30:07 JaMa: run mdbus2 -sl Apr 22 11:30:16 and see if you get position updates etc... Apr 22 11:30:30 PaulFertser: opimd should inspect the return value of the send call Apr 22 11:30:35 if send correctly, you will get a reference ID Apr 22 11:30:38 otherwise an error Apr 22 11:30:48 the reference ID can then be used to track status reports (if requested) Apr 22 11:32:27 vanous123: no I have at least gps time :) Apr 22 11:32:45 JaMa: and doe it adjust fr time? Apr 22 11:32:55 s/doe/does/ Apr 22 11:32:55 vanous123 meant: JaMa: and does it adjust fr time? Apr 22 11:32:59 vanous123: can you reply with your findings to "[Shr-User] SHR-U gps broken lately?" thread? Apr 22 11:33:29 yep Apr 22 11:34:27 seems like it doesn't adjust time (maybe gsm time or whatever source is preferred instead) Apr 22 11:35:10 JaMa: time source in fsotdld.conf is set to ntp,gsm Apr 22 11:35:14 so no gps Apr 22 11:35:27 mickey|office: should opimd send messages itself? Apr 22 11:35:35 Heinervdm_: so this means that gps would have to be added anyways... Apr 22 11:36:05 vanous123: don't know if that will work when you remove it from fsotdld conf Apr 22 11:36:26 i think you can't remove it in one place and add it in another Apr 22 11:37:26 PaulFertser: i guess the user should be notified about the fact message is unsent and present a way to manage those (in an outbox folder...), not in the background... Apr 22 11:37:36 i mean Apr 22 11:37:59 resend automatically but make sure user can interact... Apr 22 11:39:59 PaulFertser: what do you mean with itself? Eventually opimd should be the only API being used for messaging, yes Apr 22 11:40:01 ~nf Apr 22 11:40:02 The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-03-28 21:09 UTC]:buildhost got rebooted... new RAM will arrive beginning of next week Apr 22 11:40:13 PaulFertser: opimd then talks for fsogsmd for SMS Apr 22 11:40:20 and to something else for Jabber Apr 22 11:40:24 and to something else for EMail Apr 22 11:40:25 etc. Apr 22 11:49:13 morning gnu Apr 22 11:49:14 too Apr 22 11:51:34 hi mickeyl|office Apr 22 11:52:08 i tried to compile xf86-video-openchrome bit it comlains about missing dri.h Apr 22 11:52:28 Q-Master: in what way does it fail? works fine over here Apr 22 11:52:36 and also a missing includepath . Apr 22 11:53:05 how can i add the includepath to the bb file ? Apr 22 11:53:19 mrmoku: same as before last update smses and phonecalls. just white illume2 screen with top and bottom bars and that's all Apr 22 11:54:23 13:17 < Q-Master> mrmoku: adding contact yet fails. Apr 22 11:54:26 hi pw Apr 22 11:54:27 gen Apr 22 11:55:00 pwgen: if it's autotools, e.g. CFLAGS += -I. Apr 22 11:55:01 Q-Master: ahh... now I understand :) Apr 22 11:55:43 Q-Master: after pressing save? or whne? Apr 22 11:56:16 yep. other things work, but after pressing save - white screen. Apr 22 11:56:49 mrmoku: This might happen because I use russian language in input fields Apr 22 11:57:08 Q-Master: just try if it happens without please? Apr 22 11:57:17 mrmoku: w8t a sec Apr 22 11:57:43 grmff. what package is hiding the dri , dri2 , glx modules for xorg ? Apr 22 11:59:52 mickey|office: somehow fsotdld does not retry ntpd when network is not available on startup Apr 22 12:00:09 mrmoku: yes. it fails if using some cyrillics Apr 22 12:00:39 Q-Master: hmm... ok Apr 22 12:00:41 mrmoku: right. the question is which means to use to detect that we're now online Apr 22 12:00:50 * mrmoku tries some german umlauts Apr 22 12:01:01 i should probably sense for default route changes Apr 22 12:01:01 mickey|office: good question Apr 22 12:01:04 since this is the most universal thing Apr 22 12:01:13 should work with everything, yes Apr 22 12:01:18 better than attaching to connman, network manager, fsonetworkd, what not Apr 22 12:01:27 can oyu open a bug? Apr 22 12:01:43 i'll try to fix that on weekend then Apr 22 12:01:57 ok Apr 22 12:02:15 ah, btw. Apr 22 12:02:25 so you "officially" migrated to fsogsmd now? Apr 22 12:02:36 i wanted to write a longer blogpost when that happens Apr 22 12:02:45 shr-u did IMHO Apr 22 12:02:55 ok, good Apr 22 12:03:08 shr-t will follow suit sometime in the future :) Apr 22 12:03:17 mrmoku: funny thing, but editing this contact and using the russian instead - worked. Apr 22 12:03:21 mickey|office: hmm... that won't fix my case though Apr 22 12:03:28 mrmoku: which case? Apr 22 12:03:36 mrmoku: seems that it is a problem of creating contact, but not editing Apr 22 12:03:42 usb unplugged on boot and plug in afterwards Apr 22 12:03:49 as the default route is set before Apr 22 12:04:16 hmm Apr 22 12:04:21 are you sure? Apr 22 12:04:32 hmm... let me try Apr 22 12:04:40 hmm, yeah, the interface is present, even if nothing is connected Apr 22 12:04:50 and it will even be up Apr 22 12:05:12 i don't fancy a regular timeout, i want that to be somewhat intelligent Apr 22 12:06:17 [21474718.675000] gta02_udc_command S3C2410_UDC_P_ENABLE Apr 22 12:06:56 hmm Apr 22 12:07:01 can you run fsodeviced in foreground Apr 22 12:07:04 and plug out and plug in Apr 22 12:07:12 lets see what we get from kobject Apr 22 12:07:19 (will be dumped over stdout) Apr 22 12:08:13 on Openmoko devices USB plugin/plugout will also be transmitted as input event, but this is nothing i want to rely on as other devices don't have that Apr 22 12:10:06 ip link reports a difference if plugged in or not Apr 22 12:10:11 spaetz: you had kernel upgrade in shr-t? Apr 22 12:10:18 if plugged in it has LOWER_UP as status Apr 22 12:10:26 tail -f /var/log/fsogd Apr 22 12:10:28 tail -f /var/log/fsode Apr 22 12:10:34 oops Apr 22 12:12:33 mickey|office: only power supply stuff in fsodeviced.log Apr 22 12:12:56 can you run fsodeviced in foreground Apr 22 12:13:02 ok :P Apr 22 12:13:05 (will be dumped over stdout) Apr 22 12:13:06 :) Apr 22 12:13:58 JaMa: I just had the merging of shr-u (as you know). I don't know what we bumped, but at least there was some kernel graphics driver version mismatch, so I assumed the kernel got bumped? Apr 22 12:15:45 spaetz: no it was because Xorg ABI changed and not Xorg driver (xf86-video-glamo) Apr 22 12:15:58 spaetz: so I was curious where you get kernel upgrade :) Apr 22 12:16:07 hehe Apr 22 12:16:17 mickey|office: kobjectnotifier gives only power supply stuff too Apr 22 12:16:21 ok then, my bad. I rather shut up in that thread now :) Apr 22 12:16:40 mrmoku: aah, right, we probably need to monitor netlink Apr 22 12:16:48 mrmoku: ok, i'll come up with a solutiojn Apr 22 12:16:52 no problem.. I was just curious.. Apr 22 12:17:21 btw., i guess we should have tools to dump kobject and netlink notifications Apr 22 12:17:28 will be useful for debugging Apr 22 12:17:33 or migrating to a new platform Apr 22 12:17:34 spaetz: and feed is almost finished :) 13150 of 13544 Apr 22 12:18:20 mickey|office: otherwise /sys/class/net/usb0/carrier reports link status Apr 22 12:18:23 spaetz: I'll run gta01 images if you don't mind (someone was asking for fbdev in feeds and it's easiest way to build it :) Apr 22 12:18:44 mrmoku: yes, but that's nothing i can listen for Apr 22 12:18:50 yep Apr 22 12:18:54 netlink will do i'm sure Apr 22 12:18:58 ok Apr 22 12:28:55 mrmoku: is shr-e-gadgets.git worth SRCREV bump? Apr 22 12:29:07 vanous123, spaetz: pong Apr 22 12:29:12 JaMa, illume2-shr Apr 22 12:29:16 should include home module Apr 22 12:29:28 and all the gadgets as that what I use. Apr 22 12:29:47 TAsn: do you have latest EFL bump? Apr 22 12:29:55 JaMa, no :) Apr 22 12:30:01 because I had it too, before devilhorns moved it to separate module Apr 22 12:30:14 PaulFertser, mickey|office: Concerning messages: that's why I think fsogsmd should also be a client of opimd (i.e opimd push) and not like we do it today. Apr 22 12:30:41 now I can see it sometimes on "desktop" and then it's replaced with home screen with icons Apr 22 12:30:52 anyone an idea how to deal with swrast_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Context. i try to get xorg running Apr 22 12:31:07 it's even resizeable and moveable, but cannot move it to top bar Apr 22 12:51:42 TAsn: mickey proposed the other way: opimd should know how to send messages and do it per user's request and track message statuses on its own. Apr 22 12:52:04 I disagree with this approach. Apr 22 12:52:17 But I guess we should discuss it when I'm less sleepy :P Apr 22 12:52:22 (if you don't mind) Apr 22 12:52:36 Sleepless night and then a couple of hours at work :| Apr 22 13:09:01 can anyone help? I'm booting OM on my G1(HTC Dream) I can choose language and then another menu appears saying 'Menus' and underneath it says 'Default menu' but there is nothing else and the button at the bottom I think should say Next is blank...I cannot get any further. Apr 22 13:09:44 i recall that was a problem in some builds Apr 22 13:10:02 is this a current build? Apr 22 13:10:20 JaMa, Apr 22 13:10:22 JaMa, But if I expect the message to be short I use -m "message" and then I'm Apr 22 13:10:22 lazy to cut&paste it to $EDITOR when it gets longer or putting '\n's to Apr 22 13:10:22 split it for commit message & body. But sorry for that. Apr 22 13:10:26 I just Apr 22 13:10:35 git commit -m "text text text Apr 22 13:10:40 text ext ext Apr 22 13:10:45 text text text" Apr 22 13:11:09 TAsn: good, thanks :) Apr 22 13:11:13 It was built especially for HTC Dream in feb 2010 Apr 22 13:11:22 np. Apr 22 13:12:01 still better to use $EDITOR for multilines, but better than that long msg I produced :) Apr 22 13:12:20 Nah, I don't need $EDITOR Apr 22 13:12:22 :P Apr 22 13:12:33 What I described is easy and nice :) Apr 22 13:12:45 at least, good enough for me. Apr 22 13:12:55 not when you needs to returt to first line and fix something ;) Apr 22 13:13:03 JaMa, btw Apr 22 13:13:09 but you can run --amend -s in this case too Apr 22 13:13:19 missing illume-home icon is obviously because the home module is not loaded (you said it isn't right?) Apr 22 13:13:42 Btw, so what's that launcher I'm seeing there? Apr 22 13:13:46 it isn't but even when it is (loaded manually) Apr 22 13:13:58 then it's shown bellow desktop with icons Apr 22 13:14:08 so something is clearly broken in new efl :P Apr 22 13:14:14 so you see it, click it and desktop with icons id drawn over it Apr 22 13:14:46 and you can see it again only after ie switching apps when desktop decides to regenerate icons and it takes a while to recreate them Apr 22 13:15:39 sucks. Apr 22 13:15:45 Well, something is CLEARLY wrong. Apr 22 13:17:05 xenon2_: leviathan (who's not there atm.) probably built that. a newer build might have fixed that already, worth to ask him or GNUtoo (who's already not present atm.)# Apr 22 13:17:28 ok thanks again ) Apr 22 13:17:39 np Apr 22 13:17:48 note that we are actively working on HTC dream Apr 22 13:17:57 so there'll be more progress Apr 22 13:17:58 btw whats the 'seen' command you used earlier Apr 22 13:18:11 im happy I can boot it, with a bit of fiddling I will probably be ok Apr 22 13:18:15 that's a bot command Apr 22 13:18:18 ~seen GNUtoo Apr 22 13:18:22 gnutoo <~GNUtoo@host21-134-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 17h 36m 44s ago, saying: 'wow is it interesting for us?'. Apr 22 13:18:38 it's just I'm getting stuck at a menu asking about default menus... Apr 22 13:19:10 hmm, can the first-usage-wizard be skipped? Apr 22 13:19:22 * mickey|office looks to the SHR experts Apr 22 13:19:45 I think so, but not sure how yet.\ Apr 22 13:19:56 I know how to skip the touch screen wizard but only that Apr 22 13:22:27 JaMa: no Apr 22 13:22:45 mrmoku: gadgets? Apr 22 13:24:12 JaMa: yep (sorry was on phone) Apr 22 13:24:27 np Apr 22 13:24:31 mickey|office: not that I would know Apr 22 13:24:32 not a Freerunner or we would have heard the buzz Apr 22 13:24:44 mickey|office: if there is no .e with a sane config it will pop up Apr 22 13:24:55 spaetz: :P Apr 22 13:25:02 sflphone :) Apr 22 13:25:07 hehe Apr 22 13:26:27 TAsn: I was trying to fix the gsm gadget (and failed so far) Apr 22 13:32:42 fwiw, fsogsmd will start to spit out signal strength changed again soon Apr 22 13:32:52 (at least on openmoko devices) Apr 22 13:33:12 still, the gadget should honor both status and signal strength Apr 22 13:33:25 yep Apr 22 13:44:14 Hi! I've just flashed the latest shr-testing image, but now it doesn't come up with the SIM AUth page upon start anymore. How can I debug this? Apr 22 13:45:24 Setting->Phone says I have the GSM antenna off... Apr 22 13:45:38 TAsn: why not just merge this commit to shr-illume2 config? http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/48176 Apr 22 13:45:39 and i can't turn it on with the GUI Apr 22 13:47:29 TAsn: it works ok in upstream illume2 config Apr 22 13:50:25 also,I can't seem to type text into the "new message" SMS screen Apr 22 13:50:39 Derick: try to click continue and then Back Apr 22 13:50:45 after that you should be able to Apr 22 13:51:01 that works Apr 22 13:51:20 mrmoku: any idea about the SIM auth not coming up? Apr 22 13:51:25 TAsn: any idea why adding new contacts with cyrillic characters might segfault? Apr 22 13:51:50 Derick: you can try to set log_level to DEBUG in /etc/frameworkd.conf... not sure if that still helps though Apr 22 13:52:42 YES I DID IT! Apr 22 13:52:44 woo Apr 22 13:52:48 mrmoku, no. Apr 22 13:53:00 But it's easily to reproduce Apr 22 13:53:36 TAsn: and editing a contact with cyrillic characters seems to work Apr 22 13:53:44 JaMa, this commit is *IMPORTANT* Apr 22 13:53:55 JaMa, though you can't "blindly" take everything. Apr 22 13:54:11 TAsn: that's why I've shown it to you before EFL bump :) Apr 22 13:54:11 I will try to find time for it tomorrow. Apr 22 13:54:36 We do need file-man module Apr 22 13:54:43 xenon2_: congrats :) Apr 22 13:54:47 illume-home should be replaced for illume-home-toggle Apr 22 13:54:49 leviathan_, I just finally got OM on my HTC Dream :) I'm happy I got it running but any advice where to go from now... Apr 22 13:54:52 the locations should not be changed. Apr 22 13:55:08 first, i advise stopping to talk about OM Apr 22 13:55:10 thanks mickey|office Apr 22 13:55:13 what you have on your device is not Openmoko Apr 22 13:55:16 Openmoko is dead :D Apr 22 13:55:21 oh :) Apr 22 13:55:23 so shr? Apr 22 13:55:26 yes Apr 22 13:55:31 much more accurate Apr 22 13:55:32 does someone use mokoko? I'm thinking about removing it from feeds instead of fixing it again *sigh* no commit in 2 years seems like deadbeef to me Apr 22 13:55:44 JaMa: what was that in the first place? Apr 22 13:55:56 who knows :) some media player Apr 22 13:56:01 ah Apr 22 13:56:08 om-mediaplayer Apr 22 13:56:13 xenon2_: very well Apr 22 13:56:21 JaMa, And I don't know why he has more than 1 illume-home-toggles, should probably ask him. Apr 22 13:56:31 xenon2_: congratulation Apr 22 13:56:43 I would suggest to do some testing Apr 22 13:56:47 and development Apr 22 13:56:56 we've got no rotation implementation yet Apr 22 13:57:03 in the graphics driver Apr 22 13:57:06 leviathan_, thank you, seems not much is working, Illume is running...things dont think to screen well. Apr 22 13:57:16 I've seen the ftp server with a lot of files on... Apr 22 13:57:23 hmm Apr 22 13:57:35 I'm using the servers of my university for now Apr 22 13:57:42 try the actual images under Apr 22 13:57:50 actually I really dont mind if things dont work well, I really would like ettercap to run, it would be a bonus to have the other stuff working Apr 22 13:57:56 http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~davidlan/downloads/OE/htcdream/ Apr 22 13:58:06 look there Apr 22 13:58:12 we have 2.6.32 for now Apr 22 13:58:13 thanks a lot Apr 22 13:58:25 next step will be using 2.6.33 ^^ Apr 22 13:59:22 mrmoku: I get errors: http://pastebin.com/2MfzQuYW Apr 22 13:59:28 excellent, I was using an older image but I had to delete /home/root/.e/ and add some modules from a different image before it booted. Apr 22 13:59:43 hmm Apr 22 13:59:44 ok Apr 22 13:59:52 this one should boot imediately Apr 22 13:59:55 TAsn: everything is twice in that config (no idea why) you're the e-guru here Apr 22 13:59:59 soon we will have nand support Apr 22 14:00:03 TAsn: but it's shown just once Apr 22 14:00:08 so that we can ubifs into internal flash Apr 22 14:00:14 will try it now Apr 22 14:02:51 Derick: 11:51:45 < JaMa> rhkfin: do you have DEBUG in [libgsm0710mux] section of fso-abyss.conf? Apr 22 14:03:09 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc7bf291071dd 10/tools/mkdump/ (12 files in 2 dirs): mkdump: add skeleton for new tool to dump kernel messages Apr 22 14:03:36 JaMa: no, but I can check Apr 22 14:03:43 leviathan_, do you think ettercap and other wireless applications can work properly using shr on G1 Apr 22 14:04:21 JaMa: I do now Apr 22 14:04:31 mickey|office: :) fso is more everyware than middleware I see :) Apr 22 14:04:44 seems like libgsm0710mux isn't even started... Apr 22 14:04:47 xenon2_: think so Apr 22 14:04:57 its a GNU/Linux now Apr 22 14:04:58 Derick: try to reboot (just to be sure everything is restarted) and let us know Apr 22 14:05:02 :) Apr 22 14:05:13 all right Apr 22 14:05:15 so its only a matter of supported functionality Apr 22 14:05:19 and what you wann do Apr 22 14:05:30 if you wanna use package injection Apr 22 14:05:39 it needs to be supported of course Apr 22 14:05:44 JaMa: one thing though, I can only turn the moko on by AUX+power, and then pick "boot" in the menu Apr 22 14:05:48 else, you will fail with the driver Apr 22 14:05:55 JaMa: heh, well, i'm really insisting on good tools. i have long waited for a chance to write all my lowlevel tools i need to conquer a new platform; with Vala and FSO libs I have finally the proper groundwork to do that :) Apr 22 14:05:58 or rather, Reboot Apr 22 14:06:16 <\marco> hi to all Apr 22 14:06:26 * mickey|office waves to tony_tu Apr 22 14:06:35 leviathan_, im more interested in ARP Poisoning :) Apr 22 14:07:04 mickey|office: I like to see you doing all this work :) just funny to see like all parts of system are usually not good enough for your needs.. Apr 22 14:07:13 :) Apr 22 14:07:59 i try to keep my NIH-syndrome under control, but I'm serious about tight integration... Apr 22 14:09:29 JaMa: still no /var/log/libgsm0710mux.log log Apr 22 14:09:45 Derick: fso-abyss running? Apr 22 14:09:49 <\marco> I've just upgrade my shr-u and when I resume from suspend I see only a blinkin dash :( Apr 22 14:10:10 JaMa: no Apr 22 14:10:17 Derick: rebooted? Apr 22 14:10:22 yes Apr 22 14:10:53 i still get this python error as well when frameworkd wants to enable GSM Apr 22 14:11:07 can you try to run it by hand to see if it doesn't fail due to some typo in config or something? Apr 22 14:11:24 sure Apr 22 14:11:31 it just sits there and does nothing Apr 22 14:11:42 (when I start it) Apr 22 14:12:02 + restart frameworkd Apr 22 14:12:19 it should print you few log entries Apr 22 14:12:29 in which file? Apr 22 14:13:31 sorry cannot check it here (because I don't have any shr-t installation and fsogsmd everywhere) Apr 22 14:13:45 JaMa: aah Apr 22 14:13:49 but /var/log/fso-abyss? frameworkd.log? Apr 22 14:13:51 i read the fsodatad source again Apr 22 14:14:02 JaMa: nothing specific there, besides that python import error Apr 22 14:14:13 what you need is already implemented Apr 22 14:14:22 Derick: soemething about _ctypes? Apr 22 14:14:26 JaMa: yes Apr 22 14:14:34 JaMa: I am now re-installing that package Apr 22 14:14:36 Derick: ah I see.. different issue.. Apr 22 14:14:53 GetCountryCodeForMccMnc() will first try the exact match, if it can't find anything it will resort to look at only the MCC Apr 22 14:14:58 a big thank u to leviathan_ who obviously does a lot of work! :) Apr 22 14:15:01 so you can just call it with $MCC000 Apr 22 14:15:17 so ie 311000? Apr 22 14:15:20 yeah Apr 22 14:15:24 that should work according to the code Apr 22 14:15:29 (if i didn't break it) Apr 22 14:15:34 JaMa: what is the issue? :) Apr 22 14:15:40 let me try here... Apr 22 14:15:41 I tried that yesterday and it didn't return anything.. but I'll try again Apr 22 14:15:45 hmm Apr 22 14:15:51 someone ran Android on iPhone 2G Apr 22 14:15:56 mrmoku: or check known MMCs first Apr 22 14:16:01 <\marco> anyone have an idea about my problem? which log I've to check? Apr 22 14:16:07 s/mrmoku/mickey/ Apr 22 14:16:08 JaMa meant: mickey: or check known MMCs first Apr 22 14:16:16 262 is definitely in there Apr 22 14:16:18 please try with that Apr 22 14:16:31 i would like to see s/Android/SHR and FSO/ :D Apr 22 14:16:37 Derick: libffi source in python is not configured properly and python-ctypes is not built Apr 22 14:16:52 dos1: i'm pretty excited about that video. it means we have a new platform on the horizon Apr 22 14:16:56 dos1: how do they get modem support? Apr 22 14:16:59 JaMa: okay... what can I do about it? Apr 22 14:17:00 depending on how crazy the kernel is Apr 22 14:17:08 vanous123: iphone modem is AT Apr 22 14:17:14 ok Apr 22 14:17:16 Derick: fix python in OE :/ Apr 22 14:17:16 attached over UART i guess Apr 22 14:17:37 JaMa: okay, let me rephrase, which image can I download to have a workable phone agian? :) Apr 22 14:17:40 xenon2_: ATM I've got real trubble with NAND Apr 22 14:17:44 >_< Apr 22 14:18:05 well good luck, im sure you will work it out in time Apr 22 14:18:37 unfortunately i'm not a developer, just a hacker/geek Apr 22 14:19:12 I'm a hacker too ;-) Apr 22 14:19:17 kernel hacker ATM Apr 22 14:19:25 I'm extending my skills fluently Apr 22 14:19:27 all the time Apr 22 14:19:32 thats the acme of hacking Apr 22 14:19:51 xenon2_: perhaps it would also be something for you, to extend your skills? Apr 22 14:20:02 Derick: last time I fixed it with http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?h=shr/unstable&id=a070023d0d3c1af845dd41703a8419af818d70f3, but it doesn't work anymore it seems Apr 22 14:20:10 Derick: no idea... as I don't use shr-t Apr 22 14:20:19 leviathan_, I'm definately trying to extend them :) Im a bit of a noob though :) Apr 22 14:20:29 JaMa: what do you use then on the phone? Apr 22 14:20:40 my backlight just timed out when booting the latest shr Apr 22 14:20:48 <\marco> have I to reflash since upgrading is not supported? or it's an interesting problem? Apr 22 14:21:32 Derick: bleeding edge shr-experimental :) but I don't need to call or sms with it :) Apr 22 14:21:45 yeah, I just want a workable phone with GPS Apr 22 14:22:17 xenon2_: strange Apr 22 14:22:42 JaMa: Apr 22 14:22:42 btw: you need to start x manually... Apr 22 14:22:44 MDBUS2> org.freesmartphone.odatad /org/freesmartphone/Data/World org.freesmartphone.Data.World.GetCountryCodeForMccMnc 262103 Apr 22 14:22:44 ( "de" ) Apr 22 14:22:44 MDBUS2> org.freesmartphone.odatad /org/freesmartphone/Data/World org.freesmartphone.Data.World.GetCountryCodeForMccMnc 262000 Apr 22 14:22:44 ( "de" ) Apr 22 14:22:44 MDBUS2> org.freesmartphone.odatad /org/freesmartphone/Data/World org.freesmartphone.Data.World.GetCountryCodeForMccMnc 311000 Apr 22 14:22:47 ( "" ) Apr 22 14:22:56 i'm afraid mobile-broadband-provide-info has no information about any 311 provider :/ Apr 22 14:23:02 let me check the database Apr 22 14:23:04 yeh i guessed Apr 22 14:23:05 <\marco> Have I said something wrong or offensive? :/ Apr 22 14:23:29 mickey|office: I'm not 100% sure about that number... mmt I'll recall sim info Apr 22 14:24:02 leviathan_, this may sound stupid but I'm not using the .bin on your ftp, but an image posted on xda-dev to allow me to dual boot android and shr... does the bin you provided lose ability to boot android? Apr 22 14:24:09 JaMa, oh, *everything* is twice? or just illume-home-toggle? Maybe it's for a couple of bars that we don't use. Apr 22 14:24:23 xenon2_: jup Apr 22 14:24:25 TAsn: seems like everything Apr 22 14:24:37 so yeah, they just made it for another bar. Apr 22 14:24:38 xenon2_: but without it, everything gets broken Apr 22 14:24:42 :) ok so I better try it then, probably causing my probs Apr 22 14:24:48 Which we don't use. Apr 22 14:24:51 xenon2_: either android OR shr Apr 22 14:24:57 dualboot is not possible anymore Apr 22 14:25:01 we have too much changes Apr 22 14:25:11 and removed android specific stuff Apr 22 14:25:16 which is needed by android to run Apr 22 14:25:21 dualboot would be possible w/ kexec Apr 22 14:25:35 but this has to be done by someone who really wants it :) Apr 22 14:25:46 ok but calls are currently working? then it shouldn't be a problem :) Apr 22 14:26:31 xenon2_: yes Apr 22 14:26:41 I was using it a while Apr 22 14:26:54 but I don't have enough trust into it Apr 22 14:27:01 to give my contacts to it ;-D Apr 22 14:27:02 JaMa, anyhow, I'll contact devilhorns tomorrow and ask him about this change, although I can guess what I should do, I really need to ask him exactly. Apr 22 14:27:04 mickey|office: sorry it was 230015 and now it works ( I had old mdbus wrapper calling old mdbus instead of using mdbus2 - that's why it returned nothing yesterday) Apr 22 14:27:06 ok, will try this, sorry to be such a noob but do I follow instructions http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream here to make the boot image? Apr 22 14:27:14 JaMa: ah, good Apr 22 14:27:25 we need more stability first Apr 22 14:27:29 :) Apr 22 14:27:33 JaMa: i'll improve the documentation now Apr 22 14:27:40 JaMa, but I assume it's probably to separate illume-home and illume-home-toggle as some people would like using the toggle but not the home application. Apr 22 14:27:43 TAsn: also please make him to split "back"+"close" to separate modules :) Apr 22 14:27:56 JaMa, the back+close is just an app Apr 22 14:28:22 <\marco> if I stop xserver.. it freeze :/ Apr 22 14:28:27 JaMa, don't worry though mrmoku is working (I think, if not I will sometime soon) on a decent window switcher. Apr 22 14:28:27 TAsn: seems like -toggle is able to start illume-home only on demand (which is better than having both started with e) Apr 22 14:28:42 ok Apr 22 14:28:46 gotta go home for now Apr 22 14:28:53 doing some homework Apr 22 14:28:56 thanks for help :) leviathan_ Apr 22 14:28:58 JaMa, what do you see in the background before you start it with toogle Apr 22 14:28:58 ? Apr 22 14:29:01 brb Apr 22 14:29:11 ETA ~1h ;-) Apr 22 14:29:12 <\marco> and holding power button for 7 secs do nothing Apr 22 14:29:14 TAsn: in shr-illume2 just gray background Apr 22 14:29:27 sounds more like an issue than anything else :) Apr 22 14:30:00 can anyone here help me make the .bin file boot on my android? Apr 22 14:30:44 <\marco> xenon2_, sorry.. I've never used android Apr 22 14:30:54 np thanks Apr 22 14:31:02 <\marco> :) Apr 22 14:31:19 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r1dd28e0a716c 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Data.World: indicate that GetCountryCodeForMccMnc() also accepts a MCC only Apr 22 14:33:26 Derick: this is why there is no python-ctypes http://paste.pocoo.org/show/204928/ Apr 22 14:33:46 JaMa: the package is installed btw Apr 22 14:34:07 going with an older archive image that I had now... but that has issues too Apr 22 14:34:14 <\marco> could I've a little answer? If my FR go suspend, after a resume it shows only a blinkin dash Apr 22 14:34:18 <\marco> I've to reflash? Apr 22 14:34:35 <\marco> it's an upgrading problem or it's something else? Apr 22 14:34:54 \marco: does it always happen? or just this one time? Apr 22 14:34:54 <\marco> :/ Apr 22 14:34:57 <\marco> always Apr 22 14:35:40 <\marco> the first time it go suspend .. it's gone :) Apr 22 14:35:42 some autotools hacks guru? why would someone want to hide _AC_ARG_VAR_PRECIOUS before AC_PROG_CC? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/204929/ Apr 22 14:36:03 \marco: did you remove mesa-dri? Apr 22 14:36:19 <\marco> JaMa, maybe not.. let me check Apr 22 14:36:22 \marco: or replace it with files from libglx*? Apr 22 14:36:36 \marco: it reported conflicts during opkg upgrade Apr 22 14:36:38 <\marco> mhm just a second Apr 22 14:36:56 \marco: if you resolved them wrong, it's posible that it just cannot start Xorg anymore Apr 22 14:36:57 <\marco> the only conflicts was about configuration files Apr 22 14:37:06 <\marco> fstab or default.yaml Apr 22 14:37:19 \marco: opkg info mesa-dri? Apr 22 14:37:45 \marco: are you using something like -force-overwrite? Apr 22 14:38:16 <\marco> I've used force-overwrite for navit-local only Apr 22 14:38:28 <\marco> opkg info mesa-dri Apr 22 14:38:28 <\marco> root@om-gta02 ~ # Apr 22 14:38:32 <\marco> no mesa-dri Apr 22 14:38:45 \marco: can you start xserver by hand? Apr 22 14:38:56 <\marco> if i stop xserver... it freeze Apr 22 14:39:05 <\marco> enlightenment proc is running Apr 22 14:39:07 strange indeed Apr 22 14:39:31 <\marco> indeed :| Apr 22 14:40:10 <\marco> if I prevent it from go suspend it works as usual Apr 22 14:42:28 sorry haven't seen this problem myself.. so I have no clue Apr 22 14:43:13 <\marco> which log could I check? Apr 22 14:43:24 mickey|office: trying gprs here (again) with the new fsogsmd Apr 22 14:43:36 (i have bad signal here btw) Apr 22 14:43:49 i could get connected, but no packets going through Apr 22 14:43:54 but what is interesting is Apr 22 14:44:28 .GSM.DeviceFailed: +CME: ERROR: 3 Apr 22 14:44:47 and now it show as being connected to vodafone (i have O2 sim) Apr 22 14:44:51 :)) Apr 22 14:45:38 <\marco> also If I kill enlightenment it freeze.. :/ Apr 22 14:47:02 <\marco> and power button doesn't work.. Apr 22 14:47:07 <\marco> kernel panic? Apr 22 14:47:24 aux flashing? Apr 22 14:47:28 <\marco> no Apr 22 14:48:05 <\marco> oh.. I don't know this, with kernel panic aux will flashing? good to know Apr 22 14:49:25 \marco: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_LED_signals Apr 22 14:50:23 <\marco> nice :) thank you Apr 22 14:53:01 vanous123: operator name is an SHR thing Apr 22 14:53:17 of using provider vs. display keys Apr 22 14:53:43 care to give more details about the gprs problem? i.e. log Apr 22 14:54:23 mickey|office: let me try, had to reboot Apr 22 14:56:36 <\marco> oh.. this is strange Apr 22 14:57:49 <\marco> now it's working.. I've switched to illume .. could it be related? Apr 22 14:58:06 <\marco> ( prev I was using illume2 ) Apr 22 14:58:24 <\marco> *using->trying Apr 22 14:59:51 \marco: i'm having that problem with illume (1) Apr 22 15:00:08 <\marco> lol :D Apr 22 15:00:22 perhaps configurations aren't compatible Apr 22 15:00:38 willl try to delete .e now Apr 22 15:00:45 now you two, exchange your phones and universe stability will be restored Apr 22 15:00:50 <\marco> ahahah Apr 22 15:01:01 :) Apr 22 15:03:45 <\marco> well, for me, it's not a big problem use illume1. I use it massively for reading ebooks.. and illume2 steal too pixel :) Apr 22 15:04:25 now flaunch button names are gone ;) Apr 22 15:04:28 <\marco> ( and fbreader don't have a working full-screen option ) Apr 22 15:04:34 <\marco> Heinervdm_, me too :P Apr 22 15:06:33 <\marco> not just the name.. they don't work at all Apr 22 15:06:53 deleting .e doesn't help Apr 22 15:08:36 <\marco> ..about the blinking dash problem? Apr 22 15:09:36 yes Apr 22 15:10:33 <\marco> mhm.. maybe I was luck.. I'll try to reboot Apr 22 15:15:11 restarting X works Apr 22 15:15:35 <\marco> oh, good Apr 22 15:16:11 suspending with apm -s works too Apr 22 15:16:28 <\marco> and what about auto suspend? Apr 22 15:16:52 suspending with E suspendbutton works too Apr 22 15:17:43 <\marco> drums rolling... Apr 22 15:18:21 [DEBUG] KernelIdleNotifier : Timeout for s6 disabled, not falling into this state next. Apr 22 15:18:31 doesn't work with usb connected ;) Apr 22 15:18:38 <\marco> eheheh Apr 22 15:20:55 mickey|office: hmm, which logs would be helpful for the gprs? Apr 22 15:21:26 i am connected now but doubt that anything would go through the ppp interface... Apr 22 15:21:35 hard to test as usb connection active too Apr 22 15:21:56 after autosuspend it crashes Apr 22 15:22:16 Heinervdm_: ogsmd crashes? Apr 22 15:22:29 lindi-: whole device Apr 22 15:22:41 it doesn't crash directly Apr 22 15:23:02 i tried to restart x after resume Apr 22 15:23:08 Heinervdm_: it doesn't wake up at all? Apr 22 15:23:17 then usb connection broke Apr 22 15:23:22 it wakes up Apr 22 15:23:30 but X doesn't come back Apr 22 15:23:50 Heinervdm_: run watchdog and see if it reboots the system Apr 22 15:24:42 lindi-: which module is the watchdog? Apr 22 15:24:51 do i need some parameters? Apr 22 15:25:06 mickey|office: ok, this was easy Apr 22 15:25:21 looks like default route isn't up for ppp0 Apr 22 15:25:21 Derick: fixed python-ctypes is being built atm Apr 22 15:25:27 ah, cool Apr 22 15:25:38 but I have a working phone now, so won't muck with it for a while :) Apr 22 15:25:51 Derick: with that older image? Apr 22 15:26:06 yeah Apr 22 15:26:17 only prob with this one is is that the alarm doesn't wake up the phone Apr 22 15:26:49 which is a bit annoying :P Apr 22 15:28:58 mickey|zzZZzz: one more thing, upon mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext Apr 22 15:29:25 i got org.freesmartphone.Unavailable: This function is not available while modem is in state FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_CLOSED Apr 22 15:29:31 perhaps this is ok Apr 22 15:29:34 so just reporting Apr 22 15:30:03 this happened during reconnecting (DeactivateContext and ActivateContext again) Apr 22 15:40:00 Heinervdm_: kernel module has "wdt" in its name Apr 22 15:42:13 s3c2410-wdt Apr 22 15:42:44 Heinervdm_: yep Apr 22 15:45:54 lindi-: do you know the default timeout? Apr 22 15:46:31 Heinervdm_: i know the maximum is 42 seconds Apr 22 15:46:33 i use the maximum Apr 22 15:46:45 ok, then i will wait 1 minute Apr 22 15:46:53 Heinervdm_: just loading the module won't do anything Apr 22 15:47:12 Heinervdm_: you need the watchdog daemon Apr 22 15:47:15 i have to trigger it once? Apr 22 15:47:35 Heinervdm_: you can trigger it once manually if you know how to do it Apr 22 15:57:06 ok watchdog is working, now let's try with crash Apr 22 15:59:26 Heinervdm_: ok Apr 22 16:00:44 watchdog is still working Apr 22 16:01:17 after autosuspend X doesn't come up, after killing X the device freezes Apr 22 16:01:28 but the watchdog can restart the device Apr 22 16:02:01 but it's a hardware watchdog, so that's no info about the kernel... Apr 22 16:02:59 Heinervdm_: does it restart it? Apr 22 16:03:05 lindi-: yes Apr 22 16:03:23 Heinervdm_: ok, then userland is really stuck Apr 22 16:03:31 Heinervdm_: does it happen if you don't run X? Apr 22 16:04:30 before the autosuspend i can restart X without any problem Apr 22 16:09:25 vanous123: for ppp0 you will need fsonetworkd installed Apr 22 16:21:05 mickey|zzZZzz: cool Apr 22 16:21:10 mickey|zzZZzz: one more thing Apr 22 16:22:24 for some reason, if i call ActivateContext from mdbus2, all is ok, if from python via proxy, i get the +CME: ERROR: 3 Apr 22 16:22:59 is this on my side or something changed inside _where i don't see_ ? Apr 22 16:23:47 re Apr 22 16:32:16 mickey|zzZZzz: hmm, seems like ppp get zombied somehow and then setcredentials returns the +CME ERROR: 3... rebooting again Apr 22 16:34:58 fun, still that zombie thing Apr 22 16:35:03 i'll take a look when i have a chance Apr 22 16:35:28 huh, and btw Apr 22 16:35:36 upgraded shr-t today, and now no X. i posted to shr-user, but i think the message is stuck in mod queue Apr 22 16:35:44 seems like i finally got no gsm today, for the first time Apr 22 16:35:51 in many reboots Apr 22 16:40:30 for the interested, logs here: http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/fsogsmd/log/ Apr 22 16:52:41 fsonetworkd requires iptables Apr 22 16:56:41 after opkg update && upgrade today, my freerunner dont wakeup from suspend! is this a known problem? Apr 22 16:56:57 der-lehmann: did you read the list? Apr 22 16:57:03 many people seem to complain :) Apr 22 16:57:52 shr list? Apr 22 16:58:14 community too Apr 22 16:58:48 ah ok thx Apr 22 17:08:56 mickey|zzZZzz: hmm, i can share alright my connection with fsonetworkd (after installing iptables and depmod) ubt the default route... i cannot find. Apr 22 17:09:14 i thought the params for pppd are now somewhere else? Apr 22 17:09:49 is defailtroute parameter for pppd not default anymore? Apr 22 17:10:00 s/defailtroute/default/ Apr 22 17:10:00 vanous123 meant: is default parameter for pppd not default anymore? Apr 22 17:23:56 nheyho Apr 22 17:31:12 hi! Apr 22 17:36:19 hi Apr 22 17:36:47 hi daniele_athome Apr 22 17:36:58 any mokosuite progress? Apr 22 17:37:01 hi JesusMcCloud Apr 22 17:37:36 JesusMcCloud: i'm porting phone app to fsogsmd, but I have problems with libframeworkd-glib Apr 22 17:37:45 i'm investigating right now Apr 22 17:38:25 hmmm how about panel issues? Apr 22 17:39:32 (with illume2) Apr 22 17:39:55 JesusMcCloud, seems to work, but I have problems with home screen Apr 22 17:40:03 sizing issues Apr 22 17:40:41 hmmm can u send me an ipk of th current state? Apr 22 17:41:18 JesusMcCloud, if you want I can make a root tarball Apr 22 17:41:25 with all the needed files Apr 22 17:41:30 daniele_athome, is ok aswell Apr 22 17:41:44 ok sec. Apr 22 17:41:51 did you expeeroence any keybinding issues with illume2? Apr 22 17:42:22 JesusMcCloud, yes, infact I had to remap the aux key to F14 Apr 22 17:42:30 and then map illume action to F14 Apr 22 17:42:45 it works always, while using directly XF86Phone works only sometimes Apr 22 17:42:59 can u put your xmodmap also in tarball? Apr 22 17:43:18 *xmodmap.conf Apr 22 17:43:59 yes of course Apr 22 17:44:03 thx Apr 22 17:45:10 JesusMcCloud, I was using android today Apr 22 17:45:16 and...? Apr 22 17:45:25 video (especially scrolling) it's *very* fast Apr 22 17:45:31 compared to X in shr Apr 22 17:45:35 or other distros Apr 22 17:45:39 on freerunner? Apr 22 17:45:42 yes Apr 22 17:45:57 using fb on X doesn't get the same results Apr 22 17:45:58 hm well i'm waiting for an email to finally buy a palm pre Apr 22 17:46:06 I guess it's X overhead fault Apr 22 17:47:44 JesusMcCloud, what do you think? Apr 22 17:47:44 daniele_athome, do you have my email? Apr 22 17:47:51 JesusMcCloud, mmm i don't think so Apr 22 17:47:52 hey guys, android running on iphone! :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yO2KQHkt4A Apr 22 17:48:21 daniele_athome, you woudl have to bug raster about graphical stuff Apr 22 17:48:32 of course :P ;) Apr 22 17:48:45 does this mean we could youse SHR in an iphone in near future? :) Apr 22 17:48:53 *use Apr 22 17:49:00 pespin, theoretically Apr 22 17:49:52 great :D Apr 22 17:50:09 pespin, though the patches are against android kernel from what i've heard Apr 22 17:50:38 i put my money on the palm pre... literally Apr 22 18:06:29 JesusMcCloud, will arrive in a few seconds Apr 22 18:06:38 yay! Apr 22 18:07:46 i'll report in a few minutes... just perfoming a surgery on my lighter Apr 22 18:12:57 JesusMcCloud, found the issue with frameworkd-glib Apr 22 18:13:04 callstatus names are in upper case Apr 22 18:13:07 :| Apr 22 18:13:16 8-) Apr 22 18:13:27 mickey|zzZZzz, ping Apr 22 18:13:41 daniele_athome: ahh makes sense :P Apr 22 18:13:55 I thought it was something like that Apr 22 18:13:57 daniele_athome: ask anyway... but I can fix this one for you :P Apr 22 18:14:02 now: I want git write access :P Apr 22 18:14:05 * mrmoku should have known... Apr 22 18:14:19 mrmoku, with the commit, fix another thing too Apr 22 18:14:36 in my vibrator patch there is a section between #if 0/#endif Apr 22 18:14:39 please remove it Apr 22 18:14:41 it's garbage Apr 22 18:14:45 ok Apr 22 18:15:04 thanks mrmoku :) Apr 22 18:15:58 daniele_athome: strcasecmp is fine for you? Apr 22 18:16:22 mrmoku, it's what I used :) Apr 22 18:16:33 those strings will always be ascii only Apr 22 18:17:22 ehm: fsogsmd : received signal -11, exiting. Apr 22 18:17:23 :( Apr 22 18:17:30 while in a phone call Apr 22 18:17:54 who sent the signal? ;) Apr 22 18:18:33 lol Apr 22 18:18:39 there are other errors and warning Apr 22 18:18:44 I should send log to mickey|zzZZzz ... Apr 22 18:21:09 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * r09822a8d81fa 10/src/odeviced/frameworkd-glib-odeviced-vibrator.c: Apr 22 18:21:09 freesmartphone.org: frameworkd-glib-odeviced-vibrator: remove some garbage Apr 22 18:21:09 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Apr 22 18:21:12 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * rbb5e9446f2f0 10/src/ogsmd/frameworkd-glib-ogsmd-call.c: Apr 22 18:21:12 freesmartphone.org: frameworkd-glib-ogsmd-call: make call status translation case insensitive Apr 22 18:21:12 freesmartphone.org: As fsogsmd sends the call status in uppercase this is needed to be Apr 22 18:21:12 freesmartphone.org: compatible with both (ogsmd and fsogsmd). Thanks daniele_athome for Apr 22 18:21:13 freesmartphone.org: finding out :-) Apr 22 18:21:13 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Apr 22 18:24:10 mrmoku: the new rules.yaml doesn't have headset part, is it for a reason? Apr 22 18:28:25 vanous123: did it have before? I doubt so... as the only thing I did was to upercase the call stati in there Apr 22 18:28:50 hmm, dunno where it came from but yes Apr 22 18:28:55 it worked Apr 22 18:29:00 and i still have backup Apr 22 18:29:04 and now it doesn't? Apr 22 18:29:13 TAsn: any opinion? ^^ Apr 22 18:29:22 storytime here Apr 22 18:29:23 bb Apr 22 18:29:24 no Apr 22 18:29:32 if you want my opinion after reading the question Apr 22 18:29:37 you'll have to wait a bit though. Apr 22 18:29:48 vanous123, headset part: Apr 22 18:29:49 Yes Apr 22 18:29:56 because it's fully implemented in phoneuid Apr 22 18:30:51 mrmoku, vanous123: So headset should work flawlessly. Apr 22 18:30:57 TAsn: that's what I thought... was not sure though :P Apr 22 18:31:08 :) Apr 22 18:31:29 * mrmoku is freaking out over elm sizing stuff :/ Apr 22 18:31:37 hehe yeah. Apr 22 18:32:21 I'm freaking out over h.w :( Apr 22 18:32:22 Too much! Apr 22 18:32:24 Damn it. Apr 22 18:32:57 I deserve extra credits and less h.w for doing OSS deving! (This has the potential to free up my time a bit). Apr 22 18:33:12 If I'll ever be a professor I'll do that ;) Apr 22 18:36:02 mrmoku, did you start a rebuild of shr? Apr 22 18:39:46 SAL-e: ping Apr 22 18:47:34 daniele_athome: no Apr 22 18:47:58 daniele_athome: needs rev bumping too Apr 22 18:48:21 I know, can you do bumping so I will rebuild my recips :) Apr 22 18:48:26 s/recips/recipes/ Apr 22 18:48:26 daniele_athome meant: I know, can you do bumping so I will rebuild my recipes :) Apr 22 18:48:35 daniele_athome: ok Apr 22 18:48:39 thx Apr 22 18:49:05 daniele_athome, untarring mokosuite now (fixed my lighter) Apr 22 18:49:11 :) Apr 22 18:52:39 rebooting now Apr 22 18:55:49 daniele_athome, could you also send me your .e folder? Apr 22 18:55:51 daniele_athome: rev bumped... you build it yourself, right? Apr 22 18:56:07 mrmoku, yes Apr 22 18:56:09 thanks Apr 22 18:56:12 JesusMcCloud, ok Apr 22 18:56:20 thx Apr 22 18:56:32 mrmoku: btw we can drop fso-abyss right? Apr 22 18:56:49 mrmoku: it's pulled by task-shr-minimal and frameworkd-config-shr Apr 22 18:58:30 JaMaO: yep drop it Apr 22 18:59:57 lets see if I'll be able to stay online long enough to drop it :) Apr 22 19:01:16 i want qvgaaaaa!!!!!!! :( Apr 22 19:01:18 sigh Apr 22 19:14:46 daniele_athome, how's .e directory tarball looking? Apr 22 19:14:56 JesusMcCloud, sorry doing it now Apr 22 19:14:59 i forgot :S Apr 22 19:15:02 nP Apr 22 19:15:36 i was looking into some verilog exercises, but then i decided i have better things to do involving mokosuite and my freerunner Apr 22 19:16:55 i guess everything shoudl start automatically using tarball & .e dir ? Apr 22 19:17:17 JesusMcCloud, sent Apr 22 19:17:21 thx Apr 22 19:17:25 JesusMcCloud, hopefully :) Apr 22 19:17:41 if not i'll annoy you some more hrhrhr Apr 22 19:19:20 :) np JesusMcCloud Apr 22 19:19:34 xserver starting now... Apr 22 19:20:29 how long should it take for sth to show up on the screen? Apr 22 19:20:38 all i got is a white screen Apr 22 19:21:14 daniele_athome: Apr 22 19:21:14 tmp/mokosuite/mokohome: error while loading shared libraries: libdb-4.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Apr 22 19:21:27 JesusMcCloud, ehm :) Apr 22 19:21:51 i tweaked the files needed... Apr 22 19:21:54 installing back midori Apr 22 19:22:02 dependencies are: elementary, efreet, libdb, frameworkd-glib, eggdbus Apr 22 19:22:12 JesusMcCloud Apr 22 19:22:27 i am missing frameworkd-glib for sure.. Apr 22 19:22:35 didnt update... Apr 22 19:23:19 JesusMcCloud, in your case you are missing libdb Apr 22 19:23:37 the last update to frameworkd-glib is needed only for making phone calls with the phone app Apr 22 19:23:40 but rest should go Apr 22 19:23:59 whats the best approch to use phoneui instead of mokphpne? Apr 22 19:24:30 (phone apps need to be rock stable for me) Apr 22 19:25:05 JesusMcCloud, use phonefsod and phoneui normally Apr 22 19:25:10 and don't start mokophone Apr 22 19:25:12 ah ok Apr 22 19:25:24 JesusMcCloud, actually you will need to wait just for the next build Apr 22 19:25:28 for the libframeworkd-glib Apr 22 19:25:36 and after that mokophone will work again :) Apr 22 19:26:01 and opim suppoert? Apr 22 19:27:43 JesusMcCloud, not present, sorry... Apr 22 19:27:54 my apps use their own database Apr 22 19:28:21 i dont want to upgrade now, since i need a fully working phone and i am not sure if the latest shr-u upgrades can be considered "safe" Apr 22 19:28:53 JesusMcCloud, the version of mokophone you are using is for fsogsmd only Apr 22 19:29:13 daniele_athome, libdb doestn exist as package.. do you happen to know the name of the package? Apr 22 19:29:42 JesusMcCloud, db Apr 22 19:29:53 k thx.. trying now Apr 22 19:30:53 restarting x now... Apr 22 19:31:55 TAsn: any reason you kept the Qtopia stuff in the gsm gadget? Apr 22 19:32:02 yes Apr 22 19:32:06 daniele_athome, x doesnt start anymore... trying reboot Apr 22 19:32:07 They are deeply embedded Apr 22 19:32:10 will remove Apr 22 19:32:11 ciao Apr 22 19:32:15 :P Apr 22 19:32:27 mmm... Apr 22 19:34:17 daniele_athome, x is dead... Apr 22 19:34:24 JesusMcCloud, /tmp/x.log Apr 22 19:34:35 sec.. lemme try sth, yes will check that out too Apr 22 19:35:00 (i borked my udev rules so it takes about 130 secs for the freerunner to conect properly Apr 22 19:35:10 mrmoku, or at least that's how I felt. Apr 22 19:35:13 Now really, ciao. Apr 22 19:35:15 :) Apr 22 19:35:17 Party. Apr 22 19:35:43 enlightenment window manager is starting to make me nervous Apr 22 19:36:00 the hell it's too unpredictible Apr 22 19:36:04 :S Apr 22 19:36:19 gggrrrr Apr 22 19:36:22 hmm wait a sec... Apr 22 19:36:58 i dont have latest e rev, thats why things keep fuckign up here i guess... Apr 22 19:37:05 grrr Apr 22 19:37:06 all the enlightenment complexity (and bugs) for a smartphone Apr 22 19:37:34 I think I will really do my own efl-based WM Apr 22 19:38:02 very simple, "mokosuite-oriented", partially illume compatible Apr 22 19:38:07 acutally e is pretty efficient... we noticed that when comparing to xfwm ond an eeepc Apr 22 19:38:37 JesusMcCloud, I mean that E complexity is a waste on a smartphone Apr 22 19:38:47 opkg upgrading now (and prolly switchng to my spare phone afterwards :-P) Apr 22 19:38:51 because the more a program is complex, the more bugs it has (possibly) Apr 22 19:38:57 true Apr 22 19:39:11 WM on the fr should only do basic window management Apr 22 19:39:15 oh crud the upgrade is huge Apr 22 19:39:44 and it should also be able to hanlde an awesome on screen kbd... Apr 22 19:40:12 daniele_athome, but i'd really like it if oyud stick to fso middleware... Apr 22 19:40:51 daniele_athome: that is exactly why i do not use e Apr 22 19:46:37 en Apr 22 19:46:40 brb Apr 22 19:49:28 TAsn: headset used to work before fsogsmd, now the jack-in kills active call screen and doesn't change the sound routing Apr 22 19:49:30 also Apr 22 19:49:56 before update yesterday, i had mrmoku's fsogsmd, but the headset didn't work anymore... Apr 22 19:50:06 vanous123: ouch Apr 22 19:50:23 mrmoku: learned the hard way while driving... Apr 22 19:50:34 :) Apr 22 19:50:35 heh Apr 22 19:50:40 survived :) Apr 22 19:51:02 good :) Apr 22 19:53:17 gnight Apr 22 19:53:27 the headset now easily shoots down the dialer too :) Apr 22 19:53:57 how can i debug this?... :/ Apr 22 19:54:37 "HEADSET", "pressed" is emmited Apr 22 19:55:07 JaMaO: giving up on your flaky connection? Apr 22 19:55:38 vanous123: unfortunatelly I don't remember where I put mine :/ Apr 22 19:55:42 mrmoku: this is in the old rules.yaml Apr 22 19:55:45 # Headset Audio Scenario Support. There is still work to be done. Apr 22 19:56:16 and so on Apr 22 19:56:20 will pastebin Apr 22 19:58:22 http://pastebin.com/mi33dmMX Apr 22 19:59:17 daniele_athome, YAY i got X Apr 22 19:59:22 vanous123: do you have debug for phoneuid? Apr 22 19:59:59 JesusMcCloud, ok Apr 22 20:00:30 mrmoku: phoneuid-dbg ? Apr 22 20:00:37 no Apr 22 20:00:48 daniele_athome, mokosuite running now Apr 22 20:00:48 DEBUG in phoneuid.conf... but not even needed... Apr 22 20:00:52 i see Apr 22 20:01:03 g_message("Headset connected"); Apr 22 20:01:08 good Apr 22 20:01:14 do you get that in /var/log/phoneuid.log? Apr 22 20:01:23 gotta make some adjustments before i can start testing Apr 22 20:01:41 mrmoku: 4 lines Apr 22 20:01:47 should i paste here? Apr 22 20:02:24 yup Apr 22 20:02:55 2010.04.22 21:54:01.464051 [libphone-ui] MESSAGE: Loading phoneuid Apr 22 20:02:55 2010.04.22 21:54:01.814752 [libphone-ui] MESSAGE: No speaker value for idle found, using none Apr 22 20:02:56 2010.04.22 21:54:01.815359 [libphone-ui] MESSAGE: No microphone value for idle found, using none Apr 22 20:02:56 2010.04.22 21:54:01.906027 [libphone-ui] MESSAGE: no vibrator configured - turning vibration off Apr 22 20:03:06 could it be it? Apr 22 20:03:07 ahh Apr 22 20:03:09 no Apr 22 20:03:12 hmm Apr 22 20:03:20 let me look on Apr 22 20:05:40 mrmoku: look here Apr 22 20:05:40 http://pastebin.com/WnMK9v6S Apr 22 20:06:13 daniele_athome, what's missing for mokophone to work? code update from you or from the fso guys? Apr 22 20:06:49 JesusMcCloud, a code update pushed by mrmoku Apr 22 20:06:56 ah ok Apr 22 20:06:57 waiting for the buildhost to rebuild Apr 22 20:07:01 vanous123: # Apr 22 20:07:05 2010.04.22 22:03:29.942054 [libphone-ui] DEBUG: Registered a callback for input events Apr 22 20:07:06 JesusMcCloud, if you want I can rebuild here Apr 22 20:07:12 and send you the updated ipk Apr 22 20:07:15 well after rebooting i got whitescreen again... hooking up usbnet again.. Apr 22 20:07:19 this is the part registering for input events Apr 22 20:07:25 pluging the headset is one Apr 22 20:07:39 vanous123: what happens if you plug it in now? Apr 22 20:08:23 daniele_athome, JesusMcCloud: can build it now Apr 22 20:08:51 heh Apr 22 20:08:59 daniele_athome: JaMaO already did it :) Apr 22 20:09:08 ok Apr 22 20:09:16 * mrmoku knew JaMaO is a very fast man :D Apr 22 20:09:24 i need to get usb net back working or else i'm boned Apr 22 20:09:45 there is nothing to be seen Apr 22 20:09:45 only new init Apr 22 20:09:58 which means phoneuid segfaulted Apr 22 20:10:13 * mrmoku searches that damn headset Apr 22 20:11:30 daniele_athome, mokosuite does interfere with phonefsod right?! Apr 22 20:11:44 JesusMcCloud, i didn't test it together with phonefsod Apr 22 20:11:50 but I suggest you to stop phonefsod Apr 22 20:11:54 i mean blank times etc.. Apr 22 20:12:03 becaus ei got no gsm as of now Apr 22 20:15:53 JesusMcCloud, stop phonefsod and restart fsogsmd Apr 22 20:16:08 ok will try Apr 22 20:16:09 i guess fsogsmd is still a bit buggy Apr 22 20:16:16 and then restart mokophone JesusMcCloud Apr 22 20:16:35 2010.04.22 22:15:22.528992 [phonefsod] DEBUG: INPUT EVENT: HEADSET - 0 - 0 Apr 22 20:17:09 hot to restart phonefsod (preferably without restarting the whole frameworkd) Apr 22 20:17:58 dont mind, i just borked too much and i need a working phone.. i'm switching to my spare phone for now Apr 22 20:18:23 vanous123: hmm... Apr 22 20:18:28 vanous123: hmmmmmmmmm.... Apr 22 20:18:50 hm, about phoneui design: why a lib? To have everything loaded at any time? Apr 22 20:19:05 vanous123: duh Apr 22 20:19:09 moment Apr 22 20:19:53 I mean, why only one process and every part (idle_screen, dialer, ...) in a "lib"? Apr 22 20:23:02 i gtg, gn8 Apr 22 20:23:12 and thx daniele_athome, caio! Apr 22 20:23:21 ciao JesusMcCloud|afk Apr 22 20:24:50 mrmoku: got gsm all the time today? Apr 22 20:30:02 vanous123: did not even do a single call :P But it's registered yes Apr 22 20:30:17 good for you Apr 22 20:30:26 rebooted ... 15 times today Apr 22 20:30:31 got no gsm 2x Apr 22 20:30:42 the rate is very good though :) Apr 22 20:31:21 could be other circumstances... Apr 22 20:31:26 anyhow Apr 22 20:38:31 vanous123: brb to fix the headset Apr 22 20:42:15 mrmoku: wow Apr 22 20:42:27 mrmoku, window management with ecore and evas seems to be not so difficul Apr 22 20:49:11 daniele_athome: go ahead then ;) Apr 22 20:49:31 mrmoku: :) Apr 22 20:53:56 vanous123: it was you pointing me to the problem :-) Apr 22 20:53:58 night! Apr 22 20:54:07 huh? Apr 22 20:54:17 22:16 < vanous123> 2010.04.22 22:15:22.528992 [phonefsod] DEBUG: INPUT EVENT: HEADSET - 0 - 0 Apr 22 20:54:27 so i am not such a troublemaker? Apr 22 20:54:39 mrmoku: what does it mean? Apr 22 20:54:42 signal callback changed with libfso-glib... second param is not char * but int now Apr 22 20:54:52 actually FreeSmartphoneDeviceInputState Apr 22 20:54:55 isee Apr 22 20:55:00 and I adjusted only the one in phonefsod Apr 22 20:55:04 not in phoneuid Apr 22 20:55:08 oh, ok Apr 22 20:56:41 SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r047e2d61515e 10/src/ (phoneui-info.c phoneui-info.h phoneui-utils-sound.c): phoneui-info: adjust callback for input events Apr 22 20:56:55 building now Apr 22 20:57:09 yahoo :) Apr 22 21:01:05 vanous123: ok, update and tell me that it works :P Apr 22 21:01:18 upgrading now Apr 22 21:26:38 vanous123: works? Apr 22 21:26:50 almost there Apr 22 21:26:56 booting up Apr 22 21:27:03 :) Apr 22 21:27:07 had hit the python and busybox update... Apr 22 21:27:22 * mrmoku wants to go to bed and would not sleep well without knowing if it works :P Apr 22 21:27:59 egadget shows off, idles show full signal... :/ Apr 22 21:29:13 hmm Apr 22 21:29:29 haven't got gsm, but Apr 22 21:30:21 on plugging it in, the dialer disappeared again :/ Apr 22 21:30:27 noooo Apr 22 21:30:58 vanous123: have to locate my headset tomorrow then :/ Apr 22 21:31:00 but i have a feeling it hasn't upated Apr 22 21:31:05 2010.04.22 23:28:27.743007 [phonefsod] DEBUG: INPUT EVENT: HEADSET - 0 - 0 Apr 22 21:31:14 you built it? Apr 22 21:31:16 that one is ok Apr 22 21:31:21 phonefsod is not the culprit Apr 22 21:31:23 phoneuid Apr 22 21:31:28 what does phoneuid.log say? Apr 22 21:32:26 it restarts again Apr 22 21:32:59 vanous123: hmm... opkg list_installed libphone-ui0 ? Apr 22 21:33:00 phoneuid - 0.0.0+gitr179+a815863bc4713c52a59b38dba3824f6bbfe745f9-r6.4 - SHR Phone UI Daemon Apr 22 21:33:42 libphone-ui0 - 0.0.0+gitr280+047e2d61515ea40974fa6d5e1160daae44e150ee-r0.4 - A generic framework for phone ui Apr 22 21:33:50 yeah, that's correct :/ Apr 22 21:34:05 let me check Apr 22 21:34:17 will have to look at it tomorrow... hopefully with my headset which is probably hiding in the basement Apr 22 21:34:21 Package libphone-ui0 (0.0.0+gitrLOCAL-r0.4) installed in root is up to date. Apr 22 21:34:29 vanous123: ahhhh hahaha Apr 22 21:34:36 GOT IT Apr 22 21:34:41 bastard Apr 22 21:34:48 this is the previous local version Apr 22 21:34:49 opkg list_installed | grep LOCAL Apr 22 21:34:50 right? Apr 22 21:34:55 and remove all of them Apr 22 21:35:02 whuaa Apr 22 21:35:07 and install he ones from the feed :P Apr 22 21:35:47 almost there Apr 22 21:35:55 reboot? Apr 22 21:36:19 or just X restart Apr 22 21:37:09 X restart is enough Apr 22 21:40:37 mrmoku: sleep satisfied, i can phone on saturday while driving to the conference to meet JaMaO and RadekPolak :) Apr 22 21:40:50 mrmoku: you are a star! Apr 22 21:41:39 great :) Apr 22 21:41:50 gnight then... I drive carefully anyway :P Apr 22 21:42:31 will doo, gn Apr 22 22:39:59 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra7c534ed9bee 10/libfsobasics/vapi/ (libnl-2.0.vapi linux.vapi): libfsobasics: sync local vapi copies w/ upstream Apr 22 23:04:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r696d93d7146a 10/tools/mkdump/ (src/main.vala vapi/config.vapi): mkdump: first version works Apr 22 23:54:49 hi Apr 22 23:55:01 I'm looking for the xserver-xglamo package Apr 22 23:55:13 as it was on pkg-fso's repository Apr 23 00:01:01 khorben: git.debian.org Apr 23 00:03:56 lindi-: thx Apr 23 00:10:33 lindi-: I'm on http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/xglamo.git;a=tree and I don't see the packaging meta-data, is it somewhere else? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 23 02:59:56 2010