**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 23 02:59:56 2010 Apr 23 05:16:10 mickey|zzZZzz: fyi - if i end up gprs connection via poff, all is ok, if via DeactivateContext, get pppd zombies. but perhaps you know this... Apr 23 05:45:47 khorben: it's in the debian branch Apr 23 06:25:55 leviathan, good morning :) don't worry it's nothing heavy Apr 23 06:25:58 how you doing? Apr 23 06:42:38 radekp: good morning... do you know if anybody is working on making vibrators/leds for the new kernel work? Apr 23 06:48:18 don't they work at all? Apr 23 06:49:58 spaetz: only the Aux led works Apr 23 06:50:04 no vibrator Apr 23 06:50:14 no blue/orange/purple led Apr 23 06:50:43 bbiab Apr 23 06:52:09 radekp: when are you travelling to zlin? Apr 23 06:52:16 radekp: today or tomorrow only? Apr 23 06:52:51 radekp: i have space in the car, let me know Apr 23 06:53:25 radekp: unless you are already there Apr 23 06:54:56 mrmoku|away: morning, i dont know anyone that is working on it, i might try, but i need to do bug fix qtmoko release first Apr 23 06:55:37 vanous123: hi, i will arrive tomorrow there Apr 23 06:56:00 vanous123: i am adventurous so i will go by train :) Apr 23 06:56:42 stay clear of the dors Apr 23 06:56:44 doors Apr 23 06:57:05 they might decide to spontaneously change trains :-) Apr 23 07:19:28 * spaetz sent off rants for today and is doing day work now. Apr 23 07:33:32 mickey|zzZZzz: to my uneducated (3gpp-wise) view HoldActive() description is lacking. In the descriptions of previous methods it's assumed there's a set of active calls. And here you write "the active call". Apr 23 07:45:15 radekp: ok Apr 23 07:45:30 radekp: I unfortunatelly have no idea whatsoever about kernel... Apr 23 07:51:26 good morning... Apr 23 07:51:57 morning Apr 23 07:52:31 the default inbox view in current cworth/master gives me now: Incomplete search results (search process was killed). Apr 23 07:52:34 oops. Apr 23 07:53:19 spaetz: more coffee ;) Apr 23 07:53:29 * spaetz grabs more coffee Apr 23 07:53:40 is your machine working again? Apr 23 07:54:45 uuh, ahh. Error opening /home/spaetz/mail/INBOX/new/1272004005_0.3418.spaetz-macbook,U=10653,FMD5=7e33429f656f1e6e9d79b29c3f82c57e:2,: No such file or directory Apr 23 07:54:49 Segmentation fault (core dumped) Apr 23 07:54:54 * spaetz NEEDS EVEN MORE COFFEE Apr 23 07:55:06 or less irssi windows Apr 23 07:59:31 lol Apr 23 08:01:35 :P Apr 23 08:06:33 mickey|zzZZzz: the same goes about Transfer Apr 23 08:10:18 [debian] Is there a gui, or some scripts, to connect via GPRS on e17? Apr 23 08:11:08 McKael: it's quite trivial to do with mdbus2 Apr 23 08:11:30 PaulFertser, ok, I'll try Apr 23 08:11:38 hi, http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=IPhoneLinux Apr 23 08:11:52 McKael: you just need to call org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP ActivateContext method. Apr 23 08:12:52 McKael: I'm not sure if the version you have uses a new api or old (new api is the one documented, old is when ActivateContext accepts all credentials itself), but it should be obvious from the function signature. Apr 23 08:15:01 Hakisho: what about the modem interface? IIRC it's a ~standard AT command driven one, right? What about audio routing/switching? Apr 23 08:15:29 Hakisho: are the folks targetting android only or do they want to provide userspace with proper standard Linux APIs? Apr 23 08:16:02 PaulFertser: sorry, I've no idea on the details...just visited the site. Apr 23 08:16:37 Hakisho: ok Apr 23 08:17:33 PaulFertser: i looked at the patches yesterday Apr 23 08:17:49 PaulFertser maybe ask them in #iphonelinux channel on irc.osx86.hu Apr 23 08:18:12 PaulFertser: there was no patch for the GSM part of the android kernel not android itself, so i assume that it's standard AT Apr 23 08:18:27 PaulFertser: for the audio part there were alsa patches Apr 23 08:23:31 PaulFertser: works :) (but that's not a gui :p) Apr 23 08:23:53 PaulFertser: that's the new API, btw Apr 23 08:37:30 WTF is that Apr 23 08:37:55 screen refresh frequence went down or something like that? Apr 23 08:38:17 my screen "blinks" in a strange way Apr 23 08:42:08 additionally, the colors seems to be off Apr 23 09:17:22 PaulFertser: do you use phoneui-phonelog? Apr 23 09:21:38 * McKael kills Enlightenment... Apr 23 10:02:52 <\marco> I was trying to export my simcontacts to opimd but pisi says: Apr 23 10:02:55 <\marco> TypeError: tuple indices must be integers, not str Apr 23 10:03:48 <\marco> the whole traceback http://pastebin.com/H4tnwb2M Apr 23 10:21:33 McKael: it doesn't work for me, no idea why, probably i didn't install something. Apr 23 10:21:57 McKael: anyway i do not need it since my emacs interface is near the point i'll be able to use it. Apr 23 10:22:26 phoneui-phonelog isn't finished Apr 23 10:22:38 i think it's just a template till now Apr 23 10:22:59 shr still uses pyphonelog and i think there are some reasons for that ;) Apr 23 10:23:07 Heinervdm: yes, and also the iphone baseband firmware is pretty much analized by now. And i guess one would need to run the software sim unlock anyway to use it. Apr 23 10:24:27 PaulFertser: yes probably, but i'm not really interested in the iphone, it's still too expensive Apr 23 10:24:41 250€ for a 5 year old device Apr 23 10:25:15 3 year old Apr 23 10:28:12 * mickey|office hints at summer ... they're going to drop massively Apr 23 10:28:30 probably 50-100 for a 2G soon Apr 23 10:35:50 mickey|office: hi Apr 23 10:35:56 morning PaulFertser Apr 23 10:36:04 mickey|office: may i ask two question wrt GSM API right now? ;) Apr 23 10:36:39 yes Apr 23 10:36:47 mickey|office: "the active call" doesn't seem to have any meaning in the documentation of org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP. Apr 23 10:36:54 Not PDP, sorry. Apr 23 10:36:58 I meant .Call Apr 23 10:37:10 mickey|office: because there's a set of active calls, not "the active" call. Apr 23 10:37:50 I mean to my uneducated (3gpp-wise) point of view those methods need clarifications. Apr 23 10:38:28 hmm, yeah. i guess i have it correct everywhere but "HoldActive ( )" Apr 23 10:39:33 mickey|office: and Transfer() Apr 23 10:40:57 right, although I'm not sure about the conditions that have to be met for transfer to succeed Apr 23 10:41:04 might only work if there is only one active call Apr 23 10:41:21 Or incoming Apr 23 10:41:27 incoming always is only one Apr 23 10:41:42 What if there's one active and one incoming? Apr 23 10:41:46 no idea Apr 23 10:41:53 never managed to get a transfer working Apr 23 10:42:03 perhaps the calypso can't do that Apr 23 10:42:11 now that we have more modems i'll try with those Apr 23 10:42:21 Hehe, still gsm standards suck. Apr 23 10:44:15 true Apr 23 10:47:34 and the 2nd question? Apr 23 10:48:53 mickey|office: heh, i do not remember, probably it was one quetion about two methods :) sorry Apr 23 10:49:49 mickey|office: btw, i do not mean to push you or anything but since shr-u uses fsogsmd now probably it would be nice if you find some time on the weekend to implement echo cancellation/noise suppression. Apr 23 10:50:14 ;) Apr 23 10:51:20 *nod* will do Apr 23 10:51:42 it's not done in a minute, since i need to enhance the architecture a bit Apr 23 10:52:05 (for custom telephony handlers, since you guys insist on sending the command so often *cough*) Apr 23 10:52:54 Of course, fully understandable. Apr 23 10:53:30 implementing a custom call handler for the Calypso is on the agenda anyways Apr 23 10:53:37 right now we're using the standard one Apr 23 10:53:51 which works fine, but lacks some of the advanced featuers Apr 23 10:54:18 like enhanced call progress Apr 23 10:54:34 The problem with sending "so often" is that obviously you do not want to add unnecessary and inelagnt quirks when you're not fully convinced they're really needed, and most users want to have that command issued often enough unless they're convinced it's not really necessary. Apr 23 10:54:45 hehe Apr 23 10:54:47 right Apr 23 10:57:51 there's some more things missing as well Apr 23 10:58:07 monitoring, home zone, cell broadcasts Apr 23 10:58:12 all that rather specialist stuff Apr 23 11:01:12 PaulFertser: Is there another app for seeing missed calls and the history (hmm, I mean, for non-emacs people)? Apr 23 11:01:22 McKael: pyphonelog Apr 23 11:01:39 McKael: and opimd-cli (also python, unfortunately) Apr 23 11:02:03 PaulFertser: is that packaged? Apr 23 11:02:36 McKael: and also you can issue a query with mdbus (because mdbus2 doesn't support a{sv} yet) and get query results with mdbus2. Apr 23 11:02:56 McKael: opimd-cli is just a python script, i'll provide you with a link if needed. Apr 23 11:02:59 PaulFertser: yeah... but not very finger-friendly :p Apr 23 11:03:36 McKael: as to the pyphonelog, i'm not sure if it's packaged or not. Apr 23 11:03:55 McKael: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=pyphonelog.git;a=tree Apr 23 11:04:04 it's just python too Apr 23 11:04:16 McKael: i used my phone for almost two years using DEBUG ogsmd logs as my call history ;) Apr 23 11:04:20 Thanks, I'll give them a try! Apr 23 11:04:28 oh, I'm receiving messages from the future Apr 23 11:04:34 PaulFertser: OMG :p Apr 23 11:04:37 but i think extracting the shr package is easier then extracting form git Apr 23 11:05:08 Yeah, several times i really needed to use grep etc on the device because i really needed to get the number :) Apr 23 11:10:57 mickey|office: is there a difference between auto suspend and supend triggered by apm -s (fso-apm)? Apr 23 11:13:01 vanous123, Oh, that makes sense, it shouldn't/wouldn't work with fsogsmd, mrmoku is working on the port. Apr 23 11:13:49 TAsn: ? Apr 23 11:14:52 TAsn: headset used to work before fsogsmd, now the jack-in kills active call screen and doesn't change the sound routing Apr 23 11:15:20 TAsn: already solved Apr 23 11:15:24 what was it? Apr 23 11:15:35 forgot to adjust the signal handler to libfso-glib Apr 23 11:15:43 Sweet. Apr 23 11:15:51 And headset works now? Apr 23 11:16:11 yep Apr 23 11:16:29 Heinervdm: no, both are using org.freesmartphone.Usage.Suspend() Apr 23 11:17:53 mickey|office: but i suspend manually resume is working fine and on autosuspend X doesn't resume on resume Apr 23 11:18:54 my opkg can't find mesa-dri anymore ... Apr 23 11:19:25 Heinervdm: hmm, what happens instead? Apr 23 11:19:34 X crashes? Apr 23 11:19:38 or zombie? Apr 23 11:19:59 mickey|office: the process is still running, but it shows just the console Apr 23 11:20:11 the console? Apr 23 11:20:18 do you still switch to text console on suspend? Apr 23 11:20:46 i don't know what we do :) Apr 23 11:20:54 me neither, i'm afraid Apr 23 11:21:01 i just call the kernel's suspend Apr 23 11:21:12 what then happens depends on the defconfig and the kernel Apr 23 11:21:19 i can't understand that there is a difference between manual and auto-suspend Apr 23 11:21:57 is your display on when you manually suspend? Apr 23 11:22:02 that could be the difference Apr 23 11:22:11 mickey|office, cool. Apr 23 11:22:31 mickey|office: yes i think that can be Apr 23 11:22:39 Heinervdm: try turning brightness to 0 Apr 23 11:22:44 that will turn off the display via FBIOBLANK Apr 23 11:22:51 then manually suspend Apr 23 11:23:08 ok will try Apr 23 11:24:24 * ThibG suffers the same symptoms Apr 23 11:24:48 additionally, trying to stop X results in a complete lockup Apr 23 11:28:42 i just reinstalled some packages and will try suspend now, after that i will try what mickey suggested Apr 23 11:29:56 ok, still the same issue Apr 23 11:34:03 mickey|office: it resumes fine after "mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Display/0 org.freesmartphone.Device.Display.SetBrightness 0" and "apm -s" Apr 23 11:35:57 Heinervdm: interesting. Apr 23 11:36:05 so X is somewhat broken Apr 23 11:36:27 mickey|office: yes, i have no more ideas Apr 23 11:37:31 <\marco> mhm.. funny.. I can't write messages: seems like text field don't get focus Apr 23 11:37:39 <\marco> it's a known problem? Apr 23 11:38:02 \marco: Continue and then back Apr 23 11:38:07 <\marco> oh Apr 23 11:38:13 <\marco> thanks :) Apr 23 11:39:17 <\marco> is it the known big bug in e17? Apr 23 11:39:46 there are several bugs in e17 ;) Apr 23 11:39:54 <\marco> :D Apr 23 11:48:16 flashing AUX :) Apr 23 11:56:39 now it's totally borked ;) i have to reflash Apr 23 12:47:32 mickey|office: how's echo cancellation with fsogsmd going on? Apr 23 12:47:45 * mrmoku just had a phonecall he had to terminate and recall from landline :P Apr 23 12:49:18 TAsn: and phonelog has NULL instead of the number Apr 23 12:49:32 ahh... nvm Apr 23 12:49:48 that was another call Apr 23 12:49:56 Is it possible to display a digital clock with Debian's e17 package? Apr 23 12:57:38 mrmoku: do not push him, i already did that today ;) Apr 23 12:59:18 McKael: I guess the easiest way is to copy to the device another E theme that has digital clock and then there's some GUI in E settings that allows to "steal" parts of one theme and to embed them into another. Apr 23 13:00:04 McKael: Or just install niebiee illume theme it's actually quite nice and readable, with digital clock, i see no reason why not to use it by default. Apr 23 13:00:10 mrmoku: check IRC log from a couple of hours ago Apr 23 13:00:22 * mickey|office just had a lengthy telco as well Apr 23 13:00:34 ~lart customers who come up with screenshots after we're 8 weeks in the project Apr 23 13:00:34 * apt stuffs customers who come up with screenshots after we're 8 weeks in the project into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it Apr 23 13:00:46 ~botsnack Apr 23 13:00:46 aw, gee, mickey|office Apr 23 13:00:46 kinky Apr 23 13:01:04 next time we're doing mockups and they are the basis of the contract Apr 23 13:01:05 *sigh* Apr 23 13:01:36 PaulFertser: shr-theme-niebiee from the shr repo? Apr 23 13:07:02 mickey|office, whats up with screenies? Apr 23 13:07:32 soemone spilled sth? Apr 23 13:07:36 nah Apr 23 13:07:50 it's ok Apr 23 13:07:59 just some annoying customer of mine Apr 23 13:08:02 mickey|office: ok read :) Apr 23 13:08:32 mrmoku: gsm reg has been good to you until now? Apr 23 13:08:44 mickey|office: yep for me yes Apr 23 13:09:02 awesome. we should check qmaster's logs though Apr 23 13:09:10 dunno whether he sent 'em yet Apr 23 13:22:37 mickey|office: ? Apr 23 13:23:00 was it you for whom 2 times out of 20 GSM did not register? Apr 23 13:23:43 I'm using fsogsm till yesterday, so no Apr 23 13:23:51 since Apr 23 13:23:52 k Apr 23 13:23:58 someone else then Apr 23 13:24:47 mickey|office: vanous123 had it I think Apr 23 13:25:05 possible. in any case, i'd like to see logs of the futile attempts Apr 23 13:26:14 my FR is a time machine \o/ Apr 23 13:26:25 mickey|office: btw, will there be the deep sleep feature in fsogsm? Apr 23 13:28:33 mrmoku, :) Apr 23 13:29:07 (receiving messages from april 10th, 2023... day and year swapped?) Apr 23 13:31:39 ThibG, what's your setup? Apr 23 13:31:43 regular shr-u ? Apr 23 13:31:47 regular shr-u Apr 23 13:32:07 updated yesterday or this morning Apr 23 13:32:31 weird. Apr 23 13:32:57 I don't have time to check it ATM, but it sounds interesting :) Apr 23 13:37:27 TAsn: topbar gsm signal widget shows something weird. 8) Apr 23 13:37:51 Q-Master, what does it show? Apr 23 13:37:59 do you use fsogsmd? Apr 23 13:39:16 TAsn: yep. signal strength after boot - 1, after resume always print none instead of cell provider Apr 23 13:39:48 Q-Master, some things probably changed in fsogsmd Apr 23 13:39:53 I really need to check it to be sure. Apr 23 13:39:58 yep Apr 23 13:41:56 Q-Master: (deep sleep) yes, soon Apr 23 13:43:28 feel free to create bugs for echo and deep sleep support Apr 23 13:43:33 that way i don't forget Apr 23 13:51:41 TAsn: everybody uses fsogsmd now P Apr 23 13:52:20 ah, and for the signal strength thing Apr 23 13:53:11 mrmoku, except for me, it seems :P Apr 23 13:53:19 mrmoku, everything works? Apr 23 13:53:26 mrmoku, did someone adjust shr-settings? Apr 23 13:53:32 (gprs) Apr 23 13:53:47 TAsn: did API change for that? :P Apr 23 13:53:55 YES. :) Apr 23 13:54:30 At least it's what I saw in the changelist someone sent me Apr 23 13:54:35 well I did not adjust shr-settings... if you didn't... dos1 for sure did not ;) Apr 23 13:57:22 hehe yeah :) Apr 23 13:58:01 Well, you'll have to remind me how to get fsogsmd (later today) and where to get your packages from (I'm too lazy to build my own :P) and then I'll test/adjust everything :) Apr 23 13:58:13 (everything that'S python that is, which is probably nothing) Apr 23 13:58:14 TAsn: and what changed? Apr 23 13:58:23 From what I remember Apr 23 13:58:30 You now save APN:user:pass Apr 23 13:58:32 TAsn: all is merged and in the feed Apr 23 13:58:37 instead of providing them. Apr 23 13:58:40 mrmoku, OH Apr 23 13:58:52 So we now officially use fsogsmd? Apr 23 13:58:53 cool :) Apr 23 13:58:55 you just need to upbgrade :) Apr 23 13:59:05 can do that even while studying ;) Apr 23 13:59:39 mrmoku, nah, I'm an upgrade addict, I love watching packagemanager's output when upgrading :P Apr 23 13:59:55 Or in opkg's case, lack thereof Apr 23 14:00:41 anyhow I'm off for a sec/two Apr 23 14:01:01 ciao. Apr 23 14:01:17 hmmm also xserver upgrade Apr 23 14:01:22 meant: efl upgrade Apr 23 14:01:22 :) Apr 23 14:58:39 happy weekend, Europe Apr 23 15:08:24 spaetz: happy weekend Schweiz ;) Apr 23 15:21:07 hm upgrade of shr-u is safe ? Apr 23 15:32:41 anyone ? Apr 23 15:34:38 soltys, when did u last upgrade Apr 23 15:34:48 ~monay Apr 23 15:35:04 s/na/nda/ Apr 23 15:35:04 soltys meant: ~monday Apr 23 15:35:08 k Apr 23 15:36:45 i'd not upgrade as of now... because there was a switch form ogsmd to fsogsmd which did not went as smooth as it could have... Apr 23 15:38:17 mhm Apr 23 15:41:34 so I'll upgrade everything except framework related stuff ;) Apr 23 15:41:44 soltys, why do you want to upgrade Apr 23 15:41:51 and see what will happen Apr 23 15:42:01 JesusMcCloud: newer enlightenment Apr 23 15:42:09 illume2 should work better ;) Apr 23 15:42:12 the just upgrade e17 Apr 23 15:42:59 mrmoku, what do I need to change to DEBUG in order to use fsogsmd? Apr 23 15:43:17 or is it fixed? Apr 23 15:43:32 nvm Apr 23 15:43:34 registered. Apr 23 15:43:39 If there's something please let me know. :) Apr 23 15:44:10 hm.. JaMaO: I'm also missing illume-home-toggle :) Apr 23 15:48:03 TAsn: fixed Apr 23 15:48:11 at least supposed to be fixed Apr 23 15:50:14 thanks. Apr 23 15:50:23 mrmoku, please build (and if not autorev, update rev) Apr 23 15:50:34 in e-wm-config-illume2-shr Apr 23 15:51:12 SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * r4a48619d6d2c 10/frameworkd/frameworkd-config-shr/om-gta02/ (frameworkd.conf rules.yaml): Merge branch 'master' of git+ssh://git.shr-project.org/shr-themes Apr 23 15:51:23 SHR: 03tom 07shr-themes * r08936cfe3417 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): e-wm-config-illume2-shr: adjusted the config to conform to the upstream renaming. Apr 23 15:55:33 Hm.. I lost many icons on my desktop, and the desktop also doesn't auto-update. Apr 23 15:56:06 hm.. trying to erase my e conf. Apr 23 15:58:40 still no shr-settings icon. :| Apr 23 16:00:34 mrmoku, dos1: "Phone" page in shr-settings is pretty broken with fosgsmd (run from terminal, but not only...) Apr 23 16:01:30 yup Apr 23 16:01:37 and also Apr 23 16:01:40 sim manager is pretty broken. Apr 23 16:01:43 as it is using Get/SetAntennaPower Apr 23 16:01:49 why? Apr 23 16:01:55 trimmed numbers Apr 23 16:01:59 I only see first X digits Apr 23 16:02:01 in every number Apr 23 16:02:14 huh? Apr 23 16:02:24 X like 2,3 4 5 Apr 23 16:02:25 ? Apr 23 16:02:29 yeah Apr 23 16:02:30 for instance Apr 23 16:02:33 instead of 12345678 Apr 23 16:02:36 I get 123 Apr 23 16:02:39 mickey|office: yeap, the registering issue was here, even today after 16:00 today no gsm at all, but could be uSD issue, just cleared it (bad inode for /etc/localtime ) , just trying to boot up Apr 23 16:03:03 TAsn: that is strange, because I used the SIM Manager myself to import contacts from sim Apr 23 16:03:06 worked fine Apr 23 16:03:13 open it now Apr 23 16:08:43 dos1, mind fixing the shr-wizard? (when someone does not really enter a password.) Apr 23 16:12:54 hmm, something got really bad here, get no resources, no usb... Apr 23 16:13:21 what is responsible for that, fsodeviced? Apr 23 16:20:27 yes. Apr 23 16:21:28 mrmoku, please also build frameworkd. Apr 23 16:21:38 freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07framework * re65af738df3e 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py: Apr 23 16:21:38 freesmartphone.org: opimd: Fixed time parser. Apr 23 16:21:39 freesmartphone.org: I assumed the date was day/month/year (I only had info with the date 10/04/10) Apr 23 16:21:39 freesmartphone.org: While it actually was year/month/day. Apr 23 16:21:40 freesmartphone.org: 03tom 07framework * r7c16fcf3f924 10/framework/subsystems/opreferencesd/opreferences.py: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.freesmartphone.org/framework Apr 23 16:47:05 JaMaO: is the new python-ctypes in shr-unstable (as package)? Apr 23 16:58:53 could anybody point me to an image that actualyl makes at least gps, gprs, calling and texting work? Apr 23 16:59:04 i've tried several now and there is always something broken :-/ Apr 23 17:08:54 hi people from earth Apr 23 17:09:07 Is there any opimd masters in here ? Apr 23 17:09:49 I'd liek some usage examples of opimd messages in python but I can't find it... Apr 23 17:11:23 neither can I find a documentation about opimd usage Apr 23 17:11:44 do you want to do dbus stuff? Apr 23 17:12:23 yep, preferably Apr 23 17:12:40 hmm Apr 23 17:12:45 I remember giving this a try Apr 23 17:12:49 but it was tricky Apr 23 17:12:55 (not from python, from PHP actually) Apr 23 17:12:59 I want to make an API to send and receive SMS for web services through the moko Apr 23 17:13:22 sending sms is however quite trivial Apr 23 17:13:26 before opimd I was working with csm and all that stuff by hand but it was sometimes buggy Apr 23 17:13:37 hmm, I had no issues doing it by hand actually Apr 23 17:13:49 so now that it is fully implemented, I prefer using the api Apr 23 17:13:59 I had, because of charset mostly Apr 23 17:14:04 ah Apr 23 17:14:12 I couldn't split the message correctly Apr 23 17:14:18 oh Apr 23 17:14:20 so, sometimes I sent one part but not the other :) Apr 23 17:14:31 why couldn't you split it properly? Apr 23 17:14:39 because of charset Apr 23 17:14:47 hm Apr 23 17:15:22 for example I split in 140 chars, and I have some special letters in it making it more like 150, and my CSM cannot go Apr 23 17:15:35 ah, but splitting is simple Apr 23 17:15:52 just split better :P Apr 23 17:16:21 yes but now that an API exists I don't want to touch my crap anymore ;) Apr 23 17:16:28 good point :P Apr 23 17:16:40 can't you find out with mdbus2 on what the correct methods are? Apr 23 17:16:55 dos11: hm, you still haven't fixed opimd-cli... Apr 23 17:17:08 also for the receipt, I couldn't get my message ID back so I was "gessing" from number and receiving time which message it was :p Apr 23 17:17:22 I tried, but it doesn't tell me arguments Apr 23 17:17:36 only tells me methods and signals Apr 23 17:18:13 yeah :-/ Apr 23 17:18:21 I looked into opimd-messages but couldn't find anything useable (not more than the "status" discovery, with the bunches of try - catch) Apr 23 17:19:03 Mwyann: with fsogsmd you do not need to care about splitting messages Apr 23 17:19:27 Mwyann: there's some reasonable documentation linked in from the Opimd wiki page. Apr 23 17:19:31 (as a mailing list) Apr 23 17:19:35 yes PaulFertser, that's what I want to do :) I want to care about the less things possible :) Apr 23 17:20:44 I looked into this but couldn't find what I was looking for Apr 23 17:20:54 I don't even know how to send an SMS :/ Apr 23 17:21:00 hello... Apr 23 17:21:42 ciao daniele_athome Apr 23 17:21:49 ciao :) Apr 23 17:22:03 i've started to write the efl-based wm Apr 23 17:22:13 how "stable" is mokophone? Apr 23 17:22:18 following some guides and and a very well commented window manager Apr 23 17:22:20 cool! Apr 23 17:22:27 cant wait Apr 23 17:22:37 JesusMcCloud, mokophone works... fsogsmd has problems right now Apr 23 17:22:44 damn Apr 23 17:22:57 the "testing" problem ? Apr 23 17:22:59 JesusMcCloud, yeah damn indeed :( i'm using android right now... Apr 23 17:23:07 hmpf Apr 23 17:23:11 Mwyann: ? Apr 23 17:23:22 hmpf? Apr 23 17:23:26 (it's more about SHR though) Apr 23 17:23:48 hmpf is like nähhh ;-) Apr 23 17:23:50 I reflashed 3 or 4 times my moko yesterday night Apr 23 17:24:02 ended with the last "unstable" that is more stable than testing ;) Apr 23 17:24:34 JesusMcCloud, http://pastebin.com/8UEfiXtS Apr 23 17:24:50 very bad written :D but it's just brainfuck and testing Apr 23 17:25:19 so Derick do you have some example code, not only python, just enough understandable so I can port it Apr 23 17:25:28 Mwyann, yes fsogsmd has some problems... it's still beta Apr 23 17:26:24 Mwyann: only with the simple stuff Apr 23 17:26:33 daniele_athome, what does it do as of now? (on the phone now cant analyze ;-) Apr 23 17:26:34 the "old" API Apr 23 17:26:45 what do you call the "old" api ? Apr 23 17:26:53 one sec Apr 23 17:27:03 the gsmd one? :p Apr 23 17:27:05 'org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS' Apr 23 17:27:06 yes Apr 23 17:27:08 ha Apr 23 17:27:09 JesusMcCloud, 1) maximize every toplevel window or dialog to fullscreen Apr 23 17:27:11 ;à Apr 23 17:27:12 :) Apr 23 17:27:16 I have one too ;) Apr 23 17:27:24 2) bring up a window on click upon it Apr 23 17:27:28 3) closes the window on AUX press Apr 23 17:27:54 JesusMcCloud, efl has some fancy wrappers for Xlib/XCB :) Apr 23 17:28:25 ...apart from windwo managing an awesome kbd is needed aswell Apr 23 17:28:31 nice! Apr 23 17:28:39 JesusMcCloud, I know... I think I will make something edje-based... Apr 23 17:28:56 but it's just a start :) Apr 23 17:29:03 daniele_athome, can't you reuse the illume kbd code and make it a stand alone app? Apr 23 17:29:09 well, guess I'll have to wait for dos11 to be a dear ;) Apr 23 17:29:16 JesusMcCloud, you mean only the kbd part? Apr 23 17:30:07 i mean the illume kdb itself not hte wm part that positions kbd... because i dunno how much of additional e17 code is requeired for that.. Apr 23 17:30:07 yeah maybe... I guess illume kbd uses E functions... but it's a minor problem now... I need to get window management working :) Apr 23 17:30:15 sure Apr 23 17:30:49 JesusMcCloud, actually with illume you can do your own keyboard... illume will recognize it automatically. Think about qwo Apr 23 17:30:58 it's a standalone executable Apr 23 17:30:58 i know Apr 23 17:31:00 :) Apr 23 17:31:08 but the illume kbd is not stand alone.. it is an e module Apr 23 17:31:33 and i really like the illume kbd Apr 23 17:31:34 yes, what I'm saying it's that if you don't like illume default kbd and want your own Apr 23 17:31:38 oh :D Apr 23 17:31:41 ok :) Apr 23 17:31:48 and i think i am not the only one... Apr 23 17:32:02 JesusMcCloud, what do you think about iphone keyboard? Apr 23 17:32:19 not usable in freerunner if you use terminal a lot like i do... Apr 23 17:32:26 wait a sec... Apr 23 17:33:11 JesusMcCloud, one could extend it to include special keys/keyboard layouts Apr 23 17:34:24 i want something as easily costomizable as the illuem kbd and lotzs of people would also want the same prediction stuff... Apr 23 17:35:18 daniele_athome, http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/460ab073a6284cbb9f6f779d82ae7f87.png <- NON-predicting kbd featuring 2,5 layouts with Fn key ans shift Apr 23 17:35:26 s/ans/and/ Apr 23 17:35:26 JesusMcCloud meant: daniele_athome, http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/460ab073a6284cbb9f6f779d82ae7f87.png <- NON-predicting kbd featuring 2,5 layouts with Fn key and shift Apr 23 17:35:40 cool :) Apr 23 17:36:05 the layout i've been using for months... Apr 23 17:36:11 i cant live without it anymore Apr 23 17:36:16 :) Apr 23 17:36:23 Mwyann: opimd doesn't know how to send messages. Apr 23 17:36:29 JesusMcCloud, i want open a ticket for the fsogsmd bug I'm experiencing Apr 23 17:36:39 although now I am getting this error when using DBus to send the message :-/ : http://openmoko.pastebin.com/rCcwHtJc Apr 23 17:36:40 who knows that ? :p Apr 23 17:36:46 can I do it or it is already known? Apr 23 17:36:56 so mokosuite without easily customizable keyboard is a major issue keeping me form using it as everyday use... Apr 23 17:36:57 Mwyann: ogsmd/fsogsmd Apr 23 17:36:58 here is some doc I just found: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/index.html;hb=HEAD Apr 23 17:37:14 Mwyann: and fsogsmd knows it better, i.e. it autosplits messages. Apr 23 17:37:15 daniele_athome, dunno, which fsogsm issues are known... browse the bugtracker Apr 23 17:37:19 JesusMcCloud, you can still use mokosuite with illume ;) Apr 23 17:37:26 no problems Apr 23 17:37:34 but a lighter WM would rock big time!! Apr 23 17:38:07 because.. liek you said, even illume is overkill for a smartphone Apr 23 17:38:57 :) Apr 23 17:39:59 plus i am really pissed off about how unusable/unstable the current e17 revs are... Apr 23 17:40:43 PaulFertser, do you know how to use it, or a link to that? (I googled but nothing revelant returned) Apr 23 17:40:45 it was all so nice in march and now it is a total mess... Apr 23 17:40:51 anyways, i need food, bbl Apr 23 17:40:54 yes... :( Apr 23 17:41:00 ok bye JesusMcCloud|off Apr 23 17:41:01 i'm quitting Apr 23 17:42:43 Opimd wiki tells that "Messages domain is almost fully implemented and checked to work, even with CSM and delivery reports support." If it cannot send SMS, how can it support delivery reports? Apr 23 17:43:21 for retrieving? Apr 23 17:43:34 yes but then you should make it aware of the message you sent Apr 23 17:43:49 yeah, no idea Apr 23 17:44:04 so, if I understand, I must add the message in opimd and send it by myself? Apr 23 17:44:16 TAsn: built and synced Apr 23 17:44:43 I thbik I should look into some message app source code, but I don't know where to start :p Apr 23 17:44:48 *think Apr 23 17:45:24 Mwyann: sure Apr 23 17:45:48 Mwyann: tried reading this: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.html;hb=HEAD ? Apr 23 17:46:07 sendtextmessage was never implemented Apr 23 17:46:33 Mwyann: as to the adding message to the opimd on your own, yes, currently you have to do that but this issue is under consideration. Apr 23 17:46:42 yes, seems to be what I want, but if it's not implemented... Apr 23 17:46:44 Derick: are you that sure? Apr 23 17:47:00 PaulFertser: I could never get it to run, always would say "unknown method" Apr 23 17:47:05 Derick: have you checked fsogsmd's ocde? Apr 23 17:47:31 'org.freesmartphone.ogsmd', '/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device', 'org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS' Apr 23 17:47:34 right? Apr 23 17:48:04 (the docs sadly don't ever mention the first two bits, that;s a real pain actually) Apr 23 17:48:24 root@om-gta02 ~/dev/sms $ mdbus2 --system org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device | grep SendText Apr 23 17:48:27 root@om-gta02 ~/dev/sms $ Apr 23 17:48:54 root@om-gta02 ~/dev/sms $ mdbus2 --system org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.SendTextMessage 07501069022 "test" true Apr 23 17:48:57 mdbus2: symbol lookup error: mdbus2: undefined symbol: g_realloc_n Apr 23 17:49:00 sigh :-/ Apr 23 17:49:02 org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.SendTextMessage( s:recipient_number, s:contents, b:report ) Apr 23 17:49:11 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device Apr 23 17:49:23 is that this one ? Apr 23 17:49:30 seems to be... Apr 23 17:49:35 Yep Apr 23 17:49:41 why doesn't that show up for me then? Apr 23 17:49:43 gonna try this Apr 23 17:49:49 have you upgraded ? Apr 23 17:50:00 hey, Ifinally have something I can make calls with Apr 23 17:50:08 if I upgrade to latest, nothing works really Apr 23 17:50:15 and I do need a phone too! Apr 23 17:50:20 what do you have installed ? Apr 23 17:50:26 but i have to give up, this is just too unstable Apr 23 17:50:58 Derick: then just use StoreMessage and then SendStoredMessage from http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.html;hb=HEAD Apr 23 17:51:04 I upgraded shr-testing and my phone won't enable the GSM device Apr 23 17:51:13 PaulFertser: let me try, cheers Apr 23 17:51:21 Mwyann: right... Apr 23 17:51:22 I installed shr-unstable and it works nice Apr 23 17:51:39 plus the opimd tells to use unstable for development Apr 23 17:52:12 PaulFertser, and what about receving text messages, should I use opimd or disable it and use GSM.SMS ? Apr 23 17:52:28 mrmoku: now my turn to ask questions: imagine i'm an impatient user and i manage to call Call.Initiate twice before the window popup (triggered by dbus Call.Status signal) pops up. The result is certainly undesired. What should i do about it? Apr 23 17:52:57 Mwyann: when a text message is received there's a signal emitted and opimd stores the message in its database automatically. Apr 23 17:53:13 yes Apr 23 17:53:25 Mwyann: so i'd suggest using opimd. Apr 23 17:54:07 yes PaulFertser but if GSM.SMS supports CSM I don't know why I should keep opimd... Apr 23 17:54:59 Mwyann: opimd is cool enough as it stores contacts, messages, call logs in a meaningful and manageable way. Apr 23 17:55:12 Mwyann: and you get all the same data regardless of the gui app you use to access it. Apr 23 17:55:14 PaulFertser: good question... Apr 23 17:55:54 PaulFertser: dunno what the sane solution for that is... Apr 23 17:56:04 mrmoku: let's ask mickey|zzZZzz ? ;) Apr 23 17:56:11 :) Apr 23 17:56:42 PaulFertser, I just want to retrieve messages and not have to build long and painful queries just to do that :) I'm giving it a try Apr 23 17:57:03 first I can't remember how to tell mdbus that I'm passing a boolean parameter.... Apr 23 17:57:04 mrmoku: but it really sucked today, i had only one opportunity to make a call (1 min of coverage while the subway train was outside) and i failed to talk :) Apr 23 17:57:21 Mwyann: the queries are not long or painful... Apr 23 17:57:30 Mwyann: just type true. Apr 23 17:58:00 treats it as a string Apr 23 17:58:35 seems to be boolean:True Apr 23 17:58:57 Mwyann: or boolean(true) if you use mdbus (1) Apr 23 17:59:00 but keeps telling me signature (sss) Apr 23 17:59:11 PaulFertser: hehe... and I had only one call... in which the other side did not understand anything due to echoe :P Apr 23 17:59:15 -e Apr 23 18:00:06 mrmoku, and upgraded? :P Apr 23 18:00:55 Mwyann: what line are you using? Apr 23 18:01:12 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SendTextMessage 'string:068000000' 'string:Bonjour a toi' 'boolean:True' Apr 23 18:01:18 trying in python now :p Apr 23 18:01:37 mrmoku: nah, here i'm able to actually talk with people, they complain about echo a bit but not much: i lowered my earpiece volume. Apr 23 18:01:40 Mwyann: wrong :) Apr 23 18:01:55 Mwyann: "Bonjour a toi" Apr 23 18:01:59 I guess Apr 23 18:02:03 mmmh Apr 23 18:02:04 string: is not needed Apr 23 18:02:09 I guess I found it Apr 23 18:02:11 But quoting is. Apr 23 18:02:14 I missed ".SMS" Apr 23 18:02:20 Heh, this too :D Apr 23 18:02:45 by pasting it, I found it... Apr 23 18:03:05 takes a longer time Apr 23 18:03:11 my phone is making interferences Apr 23 18:03:26 yahoo :p Apr 23 18:04:05 so, Derick, the correct line is: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.SendTextMessage '0680000000' 'Bonjour a toi' 'boolean:True' Apr 23 18:04:46 mickeyl: i found another trick useless question :) Apr 23 18:04:58 heh, what's up? Apr 23 18:05:06 mmh now if I try to send it again, I get "/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: SendTextMessage failed: org.freesmartphone.Unavailable (This function is not available while modem is in state FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_CLOSED)" Apr 23 18:05:09 mickeyl: imagine i'm an impatient user and i manage to call Call.Initiate twice before the window popup (triggered by dbus Call.Status signal) pops up. The result is certainly undesired. What should i do about it? Apr 23 18:05:41 Mwyann: something should be requesting GSM resource and you need to SetFunctionality "full" after that. Apr 23 18:06:14 PaulFertser: i imagine this should not have any consequences. the 2nd call should error out (on dbus level) Apr 23 18:06:23 the 1st call will just proceed Apr 23 18:06:31 or should, that is Apr 23 18:06:32 after getting the error? Can I request this SetFunctionality everytime before sending an SMS ? Apr 23 18:06:33 mickeyl: it seems it didn't... Apr 23 18:06:48 PaulFertser: then fsogsmd has a bug. please open and describe what actually happens Apr 23 18:06:54 +one Apr 23 18:07:19 mickeyl: at least i got two lines in a phone log and after popup came i still wasn't able to communicate with voice. Apr 23 18:07:32 Ok, will do that as soon as i reproduce it in a meaningful way. Apr 23 18:09:05 Mwyann: have you read FSO_Resources wikipage? Apr 23 18:09:07 right Apr 23 18:10:35 no, but right now I'm rebooting the phone cause mdbus won't return now, it's freezed Apr 23 18:10:44 it leaved when I rebooted with a seg fault :p Apr 23 18:16:34 sim.StoreMessage : dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freesmartphone.InternalError: Not yet implemented Apr 23 18:16:36 great Apr 23 18:17:14 Derick, are you here ? Apr 23 18:18:04 use the SMS interface to send SMS Apr 23 18:18:19 org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS has a high level interface for text messages Apr 23 18:18:53 can we provide properties like : 'alphabet': 'gsm_default','status-report-request':True Apr 23 18:19:44 no longer Apr 23 18:19:51 status report you can request Apr 23 18:19:57 alphabet will automatically be gathered Apr 23 18:20:00 Mwyann: yes Apr 23 18:20:04 check docs Apr 23 18:20:20 Derick, do you have your sms sending script somewhere? Apr 23 18:20:48 mickeyl: I get errors: http://openmoko.pastebin.com/rCcwHtJc Apr 23 18:20:53 Mwyann: right on that paste Apr 23 18:21:28 that's SendTextMessage Apr 23 18:21:33 please read the docs Apr 23 18:21:38 the interface changed in fsogsmd Apr 23 18:22:53 Mwyann: oh, sorry Apr 23 18:26:29 Hm, I might need to send class 0 SMS, I cannot tell that anymore... Apr 23 18:33:35 Derick, do you have the old script you were using, with manual splitting? Apr 23 18:34:17 yes Apr 23 18:34:24 can you post it somewhere? Apr 23 18:34:27 one sec Apr 23 18:34:49 I think I'm gonna try to fetch the last SHR with old API and never upgrade it :p Apr 23 18:35:02 http://openmoko.pastebin.com/GybyCZut Apr 23 18:35:10 that one doesn't work anymore either though... Apr 23 18:35:39 yes, SendMessage disappeared Apr 23 18:35:44 that's why I want to revert Apr 23 18:35:51 thanks anyway :) Apr 23 18:36:02 well, right now, that script just "hangs" Apr 23 18:36:03 sigh Apr 23 18:40:08 hmm Apr 23 18:40:10 d'oh Apr 23 18:40:29 * mickeyl suddenly realizes he's been working on fsogsmd now for over 1 year until it found its way into SHR Apr 23 18:40:32 commit c2a6fd1bd1b5eeeba60c7aebabe3916fd12f8bcb Apr 23 18:40:32 Author: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer Apr 23 18:40:32 Date: Mon Mar 30 00:48:50 2009 +0200 Apr 23 18:40:32 fsogsmd: add build skeleton Apr 23 18:40:56 hmm, now even the new API script hangs Apr 23 18:41:02 I wonder if something crashed again Apr 23 18:41:30 hmm, I don't have fsogsmd yet Apr 23 18:42:26 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Tutorials/sms // still the old api Apr 23 18:42:40 last edit 12 dec 2009 Apr 23 18:42:48 I guess this new API is recent Apr 23 18:43:07 perhaps, but I do know that every time I upgrade, everything breaks :-/ Apr 23 18:43:21 i really wished this was a viable platform, but I can't say it is right now Apr 23 18:43:33 don't know how to debug /help out either Apr 23 18:43:52 well Apr 23 18:44:01 the API has been stable for 2 years Apr 23 18:44:09 with the introduction of fsogsmd I took the liberty to change things Apr 23 18:44:11 almost stable ;) Apr 23 18:44:16 ahh :) Apr 23 18:44:23 mickeyl: I didn't mean the API, I meant just calling people/sending sms/using the gps Apr 23 18:44:31 mickeyl, do you know when the API changed? Apr 23 18:44:37 in SHR-U Apr 23 18:44:39 yesterday Apr 23 18:44:45 when they adopted fsogsmd Apr 23 18:44:49 ... Apr 23 18:44:55 D'OH Apr 23 18:45:21 now it just stopped doing text/phone calls again Apr 23 18:45:27 so if I take the build from two days ago, I should be fine with the old API Apr 23 18:46:44 what do I need to restart if calls/sms things stop working? Apr 23 18:47:14 the phone ? :p Apr 23 18:47:20 besides the phone.. Apr 23 18:49:53 mrmoku, please build pyphonelog as well. Apr 23 18:51:13 seems fso-abyss has issues Apr 23 18:52:40 funny, the 20100421 builds dissapeared from shr-unstable... :p Apr 23 18:53:43 quick question too : what's the diff between jffs2 and jffs2.nosummary ? Apr 23 18:58:49 jffs2 has support for precalculated filesystem metadata Apr 23 18:58:53 this is the so called summary Apr 23 18:58:57 supports a bit faster booting Apr 23 18:59:05 no need to care about .nosummary Apr 23 19:01:16 mickeyl, what about fsogsmd's messages handling? Apr 23 19:01:23 what about it? Apr 23 19:01:28 I mean about sim caching Apr 23 19:01:37 How does it handle everything? Apr 23 19:01:46 I mean, when does it delete from sim? Apr 23 19:01:50 not at all yet Apr 23 19:02:00 mrmoku, so why did we move? :( Apr 23 19:02:20 well Apr 23 19:02:23 this is a pretty tiny issue Apr 23 19:02:33 compare to the major improvement over ogsmd Apr 23 19:02:35 (imo) Apr 23 19:02:43 But this means we won't be able to text anymore. Apr 23 19:02:52 hmm Apr 23 19:02:54 why's that? Apr 23 19:03:00 you can send fine Apr 23 19:03:00 Sim will get filled, wouldn't it? Apr 23 19:03:03 you can receive fine Apr 23 19:03:05 until it's full Apr 23 19:03:23 and the deletion command will surely not take long + Apr 23 19:03:27 so i guess next week hopefully Apr 23 19:03:29 And that will happen after 20 messages. Apr 23 19:03:51 mickeyl, we don't have a deletion command (in GUI). Apr 23 19:03:59 And it's an annoying manual intervention. Apr 23 19:04:55 indeed Apr 23 19:05:16 I'll add sms support to zhone2 soon Apr 23 19:05:36 until then i need to think a bit more about it Apr 23 19:05:53 as paul was really crazy about someone deleteing one single message from his SIM Apr 23 19:06:49 i'm really kind-of anti-direct sending Apr 23 19:07:03 but will not stand against a major crowd believing the opposite Apr 23 19:07:09 err Apr 23 19:07:11 receiving, that is Apr 23 19:07:19 so lets gather some more opinions Apr 23 19:07:24 while i keep thinking Apr 23 19:07:36 that's all i can say for now Apr 23 19:07:40 mickeyl, There's only one possible solution I can think of. Apr 23 19:07:43 Opimd push :) Apr 23 19:07:55 what's that about? Apr 23 19:08:06 If opimd is present, push (and delete from sim) otherwise don't delete from sim. Apr 23 19:08:42 hmm, not bad. goes inline with the agent concept we sooner or later need to adopt anyways Apr 23 19:08:50 food for thought Apr 23 19:09:03 I honestly think this solves this problem. Apr 23 19:11:13 mickeyl, how do I get the number of used messages? Apr 23 19:11:34 GetMessageBookInfo doesn't exist. Apr 23 19:11:58 hmm Apr 23 19:12:01 GetSimInfo? Apr 23 19:12:28 ( { "slots": 20, "issuer": "orange", "imsi": "425010300938338", "phonebooks": "emergency aux:BD fixed aux:DC dialed received aux:LR aux:MT aux:AD contacts aux:SD missed aux:LM aux:AF own aux:UD", "used": 9 } ) Apr 23 19:12:36 ya, that looks like it Apr 23 19:12:42 "slots" Apr 23 19:12:43 and "used" Apr 23 19:13:01 ah, issuer works for you Apr 23 19:13:02 splendid Apr 23 19:13:04 oh okie. thanks. Apr 23 19:13:46 hm.. There isn't a "clean sim" method. Apr 23 19:14:13 DeleteMessage ? Apr 23 19:14:21 yes, not the whole book Apr 23 19:14:25 exactly. Apr 23 19:14:31 hmm, well Apr 23 19:14:40 mickeyl, btw, got an ETA concerning auto messages deletion? Apr 23 19:14:53 i really need to think about it Apr 23 19:15:22 give me a couple of days Apr 23 19:15:37 sure thing. Apr 23 19:15:38 mickeyl: i think i know why pppd becomes zombie Apr 23 19:15:44 PaulFertser: awesome! tell em Apr 23 19:15:45 me Apr 23 19:16:30 mickeyl, btw, please consider making "org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.DeleteMessage" raise an exception when the index is wrong. Apr 23 19:16:47 hmm Apr 23 19:16:50 that's how it was previously Apr 23 19:16:53 you liked that? Apr 23 19:16:54 mickeyl: you call Posix.kill( (Posix.pid_t)pid, sig ); and then GLib.Source.remove( watch ); immediately. So the underlying wait4() call is never run for this pid. Strace log confirmes that. Apr 23 19:17:27 PaulFertser: awesome find. how can we fix that properly? Apr 23 19:17:36 mickeyl, I think, I prefer knowing if I did something stupid :P Apr 23 19:18:09 TAsn: i agree, silently ignoring is wrong. please open a ticket and i'll take care of it Apr 23 19:18:16 sure thing. Apr 23 19:18:19 thanks. Apr 23 19:22:27 mickeyl: hm, since SIGKILL can't be ignored or blocked, i assume it's safe to do waitpid just after Posix.kill() . It doesn't look elegant (i.e. async) but since you want to get rid of everything related to this child... glib main loop is guaranteed to be not run inbetween those calls so it doesn't seem racy. Apr 23 19:23:36 PaulFertser: sounds reasonable and worth a try Apr 23 19:23:45 mickeyl: another approach would be to remove this watch and add another for the same pid with "generic" empty handler. Apr 23 19:24:02 But i don't see it being any better or more intuitive. Apr 23 19:24:56 right Apr 23 19:25:00 TAsn: pyphonelog built and in the feed Apr 23 19:25:06 mrmoku, thanks. Apr 23 19:25:06 bbl Apr 23 19:25:08 mickeyl, http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/549 Apr 23 19:25:10 ciao. Apr 23 19:25:18 thanks Apr 23 19:25:22 thank you. Apr 23 19:37:40 * Mwyann reverting to shr 20100420 without upgrading this time Apr 23 19:39:00 mickey|tv: there's another unfun problem: i can't start pppd the second time. I guess that's because you never actually terminate the PDP session, i do not see anything sending CGATT=0 command. Apr 23 19:40:10 thanks mrmoku for fso2 support Apr 23 19:50:07 mickey|tv: and also there's something fishy about it, because when try to do SetCredentials again i get +CME ERROR: 3 (probably because the PDP is still active) but when i try to ActivateContext again it does start pppd (and it fails on its own, and gets collected properly i.e. no zombie) but dbus call never returns! Apr 23 19:51:17 GNUtoo: is a very selfish move :) Apr 23 19:51:39 ? Apr 23 19:51:46 And DebugCommand doesn't return me any reply from the modem ever... Apr 23 19:51:58 mrmoku, what do you mean? Apr 23 19:52:22 I mean I really enjoy it :) Apr 23 19:52:25 (FSO2) Apr 23 19:52:27 ah ok Apr 23 19:52:49 what is remaining under frameworkd for the moment? Apr 23 19:52:55 ogpsd Apr 23 19:52:57 opreferencesd Apr 23 19:52:58 ok Apr 23 19:53:00 opimd Apr 23 19:53:07 oeventsd Apr 23 19:53:13 that's it I think Apr 23 19:53:14 ah apart of ogpsd I bet the rest is necessary Apr 23 19:53:27 I can now make phonecalls Apr 23 19:53:31 on htcdream Apr 23 19:53:33 under SHR Apr 23 19:53:36 great :D Apr 23 19:54:06 routing must be fixed because mickeyl or whoever had the bad idea of handling it,instead of leaving it to the modem Apr 23 19:54:12 but apart that it's great Apr 23 19:54:32 guess you have neither buzz nor echo, right? :P Apr 23 19:54:48 no,we have other software issues Apr 23 19:55:13 and most important for me: audio player works better,even if it's mono Apr 23 19:55:41 right now I'm listenning music trough intone Apr 23 19:56:46 I think I'll flash the kernel Apr 23 19:56:56 so I can boot SHR without a computer Apr 23 19:58:39 TAsn: i have a question regarding incoming call ring while headset is used Apr 23 19:59:35 phoneui changes audio routing (not sure if scenarii are still used) but then the scenario for headset of course doesn't let ring go to the speaker Apr 23 20:00:39 mickey|tv: i'd also like to reproduce your problem with "noauth" because here pppd works with this option, i can't see any oddities. Apr 23 20:14:25 how do I desactivate alsa routing? Apr 23 20:20:08 GNUtoo: my guess would be somehow in fsodeviced.conf Apr 23 20:21:45 ok Apr 23 20:21:47 I'll look Apr 23 20:32:21 vanous123, Yes, I'm aware of that, I *will* fix that, though I can only do it *after* I implement ringtone handling in phoneuid Apr 23 20:33:05 TAsn: np, just asking :) but yes, it's needed Apr 23 20:33:21 vanous123, I agree. Btw, everything works great? Apr 23 20:33:39 TAsn: not sure Apr 23 20:33:48 what's missing? Apr 23 20:33:59 the missing notification for gsm applet makes it hard to know what's up Apr 23 20:34:10 as today i had some issues with gsm Apr 23 20:34:14 I was talking about Headset handling. Apr 23 20:34:25 strange thing was, that i got no resources i guess... Apr 23 20:34:28 vanous123, yeah, that will be fixed soon, it was just a side-effect of moving to fsogsmd. Apr 23 20:34:41 headset - hey, in the morning i spent 2 hours on the headset :) Apr 23 20:34:50 that is good Apr 23 20:34:52 that good? :P Apr 23 20:35:20 well, phone brings bread tot this house :) Apr 23 20:35:22 and email Apr 23 20:35:23 :) Apr 23 20:35:38 :) Apr 23 20:35:51 not sure if switching between headset and normal remembers correct values Apr 23 20:35:54 in general yes Apr 23 20:36:17 TAsn: ever heard of volume going down if too many calls during the day? Apr 23 20:36:23 ring and voice Apr 23 20:36:27 but mainly voice Apr 23 20:36:34 sounds like voodoo to me :P Apr 23 20:36:40 this was still before fsogsmd Apr 23 20:36:43 my brother has it Apr 23 20:36:48 boots up Apr 23 20:36:53 works Apr 23 20:37:07 by noon needs to reboot, as the sliders are not enough anymore Apr 23 20:37:27 then he needs to readjust volume sliders to ~75% Apr 23 20:37:35 in half day - the same story :) Apr 23 20:37:41 yes Apr 23 20:37:45 voodoo Apr 23 20:37:45 no clue :| Apr 23 20:37:56 np Apr 23 20:38:12 TAsn: the missing resources is a know issue by now? Apr 23 20:38:20 sometimes? Apr 23 20:38:40 no idea to be honest. Apr 23 20:38:45 ok Apr 23 20:39:36 huh, got a bad scratch on my fr on the tractor today, hmm Apr 23 20:39:58 JaMaO, mrmoku: For some reason phone suspends even if connected to cable. :| Apr 23 20:40:00 (usb) Apr 23 20:44:03 anyone knows what package is python's httplib hiding in? Apr 23 20:45:02 TAsn: even if you unplug/plug it? Apr 23 20:45:13 so it seemed. Apr 23 20:45:23 will wait until it happens again. Apr 23 20:46:45 ahh, netclient Apr 23 21:14:02 playya, ping Apr 23 21:14:20 whoops wrong channel Apr 23 21:18:12 TAsn: moving pim.db is all that is needed to transfer opimd data from one install to another? Apr 23 21:18:27 that's correct. Apr 23 21:18:34 ok Apr 23 21:18:38 thank you Apr 23 21:18:57 np. Apr 23 21:18:59 plus copied images :) Apr 23 21:19:15 TAsn: yep, suspended for me too :/ Apr 23 21:19:25 see? :P Apr 23 21:19:37 it only happens after a lot of time running. Apr 23 21:19:48 Maybe something crashes and auto-reloaded? Apr 23 21:20:06 Anyhow, I'm off. Apr 23 21:22:10 yeah... me too Apr 23 21:50:43 wanted to use gtk geocaching tool and got the keyboard focus issue, so it is not related only to the terminal Apr 23 21:58:10 TAsn: you use gmail via ventura? do you change user agent? Apr 23 22:32:12 Does this error sounds familiar to you : http://openmoko.pastebin.com/BjcvJR8D Apr 23 22:33:11 repost : http://openmoko.pastebin.com/5f61Jh1J Apr 23 22:33:20 (left my number in it...) Apr 23 22:36:39 vanous123, I used to use gmail via midori, to be honest, I haven't accessed my email from my mobile since we made the switch. Apr 23 22:36:41 night. Apr 23 22:52:42 hi. i am newbie. Sometimes while in lock mode after a while screen gets black and i cant even close it from the power buttin Apr 23 23:54:17 Derick, got it!! Finally! The problem I was having was because of non-gsm characters : I was still splitting at 140 but if you've got non-gsm you must split at 70 Apr 23 23:54:37 so I detect if the message contains some non-gsm and if there is, it splits at 70 instead **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 24 02:59:56 2010