**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 19 02:59:57 2010
May 19 05:19:08 <mrmoku> JaMa: morning... after wiping my tmp and rebuilding from scratch... I realized what my problem was... the moment zlib failed :P
May 19 05:19:21 * mrmoku forgot to remove DEBUG_BUILD from local.conf :/
May 19 05:44:58 <JaMa> mrmoku: ah :)
May 19 07:01:27 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: did you try to suspend/resume with .34?
May 19 07:02:29 <JaMa> and now I have first wsod after few months (with .34)
May 19 07:35:50 <mrmoku> JaMa: ohh :/
May 19 07:36:03 <mrmoku> did not try suspend yet... you have wsod on resume again now?
May 19 07:45:54 <daniele_athome> morning
May 19 07:46:12 <daniele_athome> i'm trying to do a "gsm starter" program
May 19 07:46:39 <daniele_athome> a small shell script that uses dbus-send to turn on gsm modem before X is started
May 19 07:46:54 <mrmoku> hmm
May 19 07:46:58 <daniele_athome> after X is up, a gui app requests the gsm resource and find it already active
May 19 07:47:08 <daniele_athome> so no power up wait time
May 19 07:47:11 <daniele_athome> but there is some problem
May 19 07:47:54 <daniele_athome> in the script I call GetDeviceStatus from GSM to activate fsogsmd, then do SetResourcePolicy to enabled for GSM, and then wait for a log line by the X app
May 19 07:48:01 <daniele_athome> after that, I restore resourcepolicy to auto
May 19 07:48:22 <daniele_athome> but that will disable gsm, even when my X app has requested it already
May 19 07:49:11 <daniele_athome> mrmoku, I think you can use my script with phonefsod too for testing if you want
May 19 07:49:26 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: no need... as phonefsod does exactly that :P
May 19 07:49:35 <mrmoku> phonefsod is *not* UI
May 19 07:49:39 <daniele_athome> mrmoku, lol I mean for testing for me :P
May 19 07:49:50 <daniele_athome> <mrmoku> hmm <-- you seem interested :)
May 19 07:50:10 <mrmoku> I'm interested in many things I don't try ;)
May 19 07:50:12 <daniele_athome> mrmoku, I can provide of course mokophone binaries
May 19 07:50:26 <daniele_athome> anyway... do you know what I do wrong?
May 19 07:50:32 <mrmoku> JaMa: my WSoD on blank is still there too
May 19 07:50:37 <daniele_athome> weird enough, setresourcepolicy to auto for gsm times out
May 19 07:50:37 <daniele_athome> :S
May 19 07:50:47 <JaMa> mrmoku: no resume at all, it looked more like shutdown.. and WSOD was during next boot (after removing battery because of no resume)
May 19 07:51:08 <mrmoku> JaMa: WSoD after pulling battery? ouch :(
May 19 07:51:28 <JaMa> mrmoku: I've moved back to .32 because tomorrow I need working gps for trip
May 19 07:51:36 <JaMa> and now trying to fix navit :)
May 19 07:52:23 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: dunno... sounds like some flaw in FSO2 land
May 19 07:52:41 <mrmoku> bbiab
May 19 07:53:23 <daniele_athome> JaMa, is navit very slow for you too?
May 19 07:53:28 <daniele_athome> I mean in map loading and scrolling
May 19 07:53:32 <daniele_athome> well, rendering...
May 19 07:53:33 <JaMa> daniele_athome: as slow as always
May 19 07:53:38 <daniele_athome> eh :D
May 19 07:54:02 <daniele_athome> JaMa, can I use tiles with navit as with tangogps?
May 19 07:54:03 <JaMa> daniele_athome: with latest builds I have rather problem with route calculation slowness
May 19 07:54:13 <daniele_athome> and if I do it, will it be faster?
May 19 07:54:17 <JaMa> daniele_athome: no, afaik
May 19 07:54:28 <daniele_athome> ok :(
May 19 07:54:42 <JaMa> daniele_athome: and I don't think it's what makes navit slow
May 19 07:54:53 <daniele_athome> no?
May 19 07:55:07 <JaMa> daniele_athome: I would like to use navit's binary map in tangogps instead of hundrets of small tiles on my uSD..
May 19 07:55:08 <daniele_athome> rendering a map from a textual description I think it's a pretty heavy operation
May 19 07:55:27 <daniele_athome> JaMa, I know... i'd like to as well
May 19 07:55:43 <JaMa> daniele_athome: reading much more info from uSD is also not so good on FR
May 19 07:55:46 <daniele_athome> JaMa, what configuration file do you have for navit?
May 19 07:56:26 <JaMa> daniele_athome: the splitted configs from SHR package only with small modifications
May 19 07:57:20 <daniele_athome> do you have some special advice for me? using navit for, well, almost the first time :)
May 19 07:59:03 <JaMa> edit maps.xml in /usr/share/navit
May 19 07:59:46 <JaMa> daniele_athome: and I'm using whole europe in binary format, it's not that big and works fine
May 19 07:59:57 <daniele_athome> mmm
May 19 08:00:19 <JaMa> much better than preparing tiles of whatever area I plan to visit before leaving internet connection :)
May 19 08:00:26 <daniele_athome> eheh
May 19 08:01:45 <JaMa> hmm maybe I should ask foxtrotGPS for navit binary format rendering support :)
May 19 08:02:01 <daniele_athome> JaMa, I can't understand how uSD partitions work
May 19 08:02:01 <JaMa> that would make me switch from tangoGPS
May 19 08:02:11 <daniele_athome> yes me too i guess
May 19 08:02:26 <JaMa> daniele_athome: ? it's quite the same as on normal PC
May 19 08:02:52 <daniele_athome> I can't find the uSD device on the FR
May 19 08:02:59 <daniele_athome> I want to read the partition table
May 19 08:03:16 <daniele_athome> and root is mounted from /dev/root (?)
May 19 08:03:51 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0
May 19 08:04:02 <daniele_athome> mrmoku, no such device
May 19 08:04:08 <mrmoku> heh
May 19 08:04:13 <daniele_athome> :)
May 19 08:04:16 <daniele_athome> i'm booting from uSD
May 19 08:04:16 <mrmoku> what kernel?
May 19 08:04:31 <daniele_athome> 2.6.29... the one with no debug
May 19 08:04:54 <daniele_athome> 2.6.29-GTA02_oma-andy-mokodev
May 19 08:05:08 <daniele_athome> pretty old... I would prefer 2.6.32 without debug  :)
May 19 08:05:37 <daniele_athome> anyway I need to edit the partition table so I must pull out the uSD... but then? how will I mount it?
May 19 08:06:40 <JaMa> daniele_athome: partitions are /dev/mmcblk0pN
May 19 08:07:01 <JaMa> daniele_athome: and Qi add right root= param, so no diffrence for mountint root
May 19 08:07:14 <JaMa> daniele_athome: and then add /etc/fstab lines for all other partitions
May 19 08:08:09 <mrmoku> JaMa: (europe map) the 1.3GB one from navit wiki?
May 19 08:12:17 <mrmoku> JaMa: btw. icon reload after installing is broken again
May 19 08:13:46 <JaMa> I should probably refresh it again:) 840M Sep 25  2009 eu.bin
May 19 08:15:00 <JaMa> http://downloads.cloudmade.com/europe/europe.navit.bin.zip
May 19 08:15:52 <JaMa> now it's really 1.3G
May 19 08:16:23 <Wonka> how would I find out why enlightenment segfaults when I try to switch from illume-keyboard to matchbox-keyboard?
May 19 08:18:19 <JaMa> Wonka: nothing in /tmp/x.log?
May 19 08:18:50 <JaMa> Wonka: or ssh in, start Xorg by hand and then enlightenment_start.oe from 2nd terminal
May 19 08:19:59 <carcinoma> JaMa: today i tryed to test navit, but can't find package in your feed anymore
May 19 08:21:30 <JaMa> carcinoma: I'm rebuilding it atm, because internal gui is broken and only gtk gui is packaged and working
May 19 08:22:11 <JaMa> but there is 3271 version now
May 19 08:23:30 <mrmoku> JaMa: (internal gui) that might explain my problems in using it?
May 19 08:24:22 <carcinoma> JaMa: i had loocked at oe build stats and there was no error
May 19 08:28:20 <JaMa> mrmoku: if you're using navit from official feed then no, mine is autoreved and it's broken only in HEAD-3 or so
May 19 08:28:27 <carcinoma> JaMa: but now there is an error..
May 19 08:28:39 <JaMa> carcinoma: you mean tinderbox?
May 19 08:28:45 <carcinoma> JaMa: jepp
May 19 08:28:51 <mrmoku> JaMa: ok... just thought because gui is quite different to what I remember when I last tried navit long ago
May 19 08:29:12 <mrmoku> and I'm having problems to understand how to enter a route
May 19 08:29:22 <JaMa> carcinoma: it didn't fail to buid.. just internal gui wasn't part of resulting package
May 19 08:30:09 <JaMa> mrmoku: gps location is default start position for you and you click on map then Actions->Map (coords)->Use as destination
May 19 08:30:31 <JaMa> mrmoku: or you can click on map Actions->Map (coords)->Use as position when you don't have gps fix yet
May 19 08:30:40 <mrmoku> JaMa: is there zooming? 
May 19 08:30:52 * mrmoku does not want to scroll 500km without zooming ;)
May 19 08:31:40 <JaMa> mrmoku: sure.. but osd.xml is a bit broken now in shr feed, open osd.xml and replace .svg with .png there and you should have icons in bottom part of map
May 19 08:31:53 <mrmoku> JaMa: ahh, ok thanks
May 19 08:32:14 <JaMa> mmt I'll give you osd.xml file :)
May 19 08:33:08 <mrmoku> JaMa: btw. a 2D fix is enough for navit? it get's it even inside and really fast :)
May 19 08:34:07 <JaMa> mrmoku: wget "http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/blobs/raw/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/navit/files/shr/osd.xml" -O /usr/share/navit/osd.xml
May 19 08:34:22 <JaMa> mrmoku: that's "blue" theme from underwatr
May 19 08:34:34 <JaMa> mrmoku: I guess it should be
May 19 08:39:53 <JaMa> hmm still no internal in 3271, but it's built.. rebuilding again
May 19 08:58:49 <daniele_athome> JaMa, do you really use those small buttons in navit?
May 19 08:58:59 <daniele_athome> by the way, onscreen buttons are invisible
May 19 09:06:55 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: 10:31 < JaMa> mrmoku: sure.. but osd.xml is a bit broken now in shr feed, open osd.xml and replace .svg with .png there and you should have icons in bottom part of map
May 19 09:07:39 <daniele_athome> thanks mrmoku 
May 19 09:08:29 <mrmoku> daniele_athome: 10:34 < JaMa> mrmoku: wget "http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/blobs/raw/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/navit/files/shr/osd.xml" -O /usr/share/navit/osd.xml
May 19 09:08:33 <mrmoku> 10:34 < JaMa> mrmoku: that's "blue" theme from underwatr
May 19 09:11:20 <daniele_athome> mrmoku, connection timeout?
May 19 09:11:58 <JaMa> possible gitorious down: System notice: SAN maintenance at 11:00 CET
May 19 09:12:32 <daniele_athome> oh :(
May 19 09:12:40 <daniele_athome> lucky me
May 19 09:13:23 <JaMa> daniele_athome: you can still fix your osd.xml with .png or I can wgetpaste mine :)
May 19 09:13:51 <daniele_athome> JaMa, yes already did that
May 19 09:14:01 <daniele_athome> now I have some problems with the map...
May 19 09:14:18 <JaMa> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/215620/
May 19 09:19:18 <daniele_athome> mmm... it's a bit different
May 19 09:20:25 <JaMa> that's the one with default blue one from underwatr
May 19 09:20:30 <daniele_athome> nice :)
May 19 09:20:40 <mrmoku> JaMa: and works nice :) 
May 19 09:30:40 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r2403e7acdbbf 10/libmsmcomm/src/frame.c: libmsmcomm: use alloca instead of calloc for allocating memory for temporay use
May 19 09:30:41 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r1b298d9d9173 10/TODO: msmcomm: TODO++
May 19 09:30:42 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rd6c96cef54ac 10/libmsmcomm/ (src/launch.c src/msmcomm.h vapi/msmcomm-1.0.vapi): libmsmcomm: complete launch daemon functionality
May 19 09:33:40 <carcinoma> JaMa: can you tell me when your build machine is ready?
May 19 09:33:56 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rda5b235a14da 10/libmsmcomm/src/launch.c: libmsmcomm: add hint for the use of msmcomm_is_daemon_running()
May 19 09:35:27 <JaMa> carcinoma: 3272 with fixed libgui_internal is already there
May 19 09:58:15 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rea6ac258c06a 10/libmsmcomm/src/ (launch.c msmcomm.h): libmsmcomm: add argc parameter for msmcomm_launch_daemon
May 19 10:00:31 <mrmoku> JaMa: even with zooming scrolling in navit is at least interesting :P
May 19 10:13:53 <GarthPS|office> Yop I am available for testing the gsm wakeup issue
May 19 10:34:12 * mrmoku is convinced to have very bad navit karma :/
May 19 10:34:23 <mrmoku> this or calculating a longer route takes endlessly long...
May 19 10:37:10 <JaMa> mrmoku: from moving vehicle? It calculated in sane time for static position and destination, but I have also this problem when position was moving gps in car :/ (as reported in e-mail to shr-user ML)
May 19 10:40:19 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmm... I killed it and restarted from console to see eventual output... now it worked fast
May 19 10:40:28 <mrmoku> before it was hanging for half an hour
May 19 10:40:45 <mrmoku> (and static here too)
May 19 10:41:00 <mrmoku> even talked to me :P
May 19 10:41:05 * JaMa trying 108km route
May 19 10:45:35 <JaMa> hmm it was quick, but I should disable speech first before running it on max volume in office :)
May 19 10:46:06 <mrmoku> :P
May 19 11:14:46 <Q-Master> getting a drivers license is a pain...
May 19 11:36:39 <mrmoku> JaMa: guess you're rebuilding navit right now?
May 19 11:41:15 <mrmoku> ahh... build failed
May 19 11:51:34 <JaMa> yes trying espeach plugin :/
May 19 11:51:52 <JaMa> it doesn't know wchar_t :)
May 19 11:52:13 <mrmoku> yeah, saw the buildlog
May 19 11:53:00 <JaMa> and switching to daywork :/
May 19 11:54:24 <mickey|office> ~lart daywork
May 19 11:54:24 * apt beats daywork over the head with a microkernel
May 19 11:54:28 <mickey|office> ~lart daywork again
May 19 11:54:28 * apt judo chops daywork again
May 19 11:54:38 <JaMa> hehe
May 19 11:54:43 <mrmoku> ohh nice
May 19 11:55:02 * mrmoku stops dayworking now :)
May 19 11:55:08 <mickey|office> :)
May 19 11:55:23 <mrmoku> we have more important things to do ;)
May 19 11:55:34 <mickey|office> indeed
May 19 11:55:46 <mickey|office> like, saving the world with foss telephony
May 19 11:55:49 <mickey|office> :)
May 19 11:55:56 <mrmoku> oh yes :)
May 19 11:55:59 * JaMa moving to different office for a while but cannot stop daywork :/
May 19 11:58:42 * mrmoku surrounded by a 6yrs and a 3months old kid... can't do anything too :P
May 19 12:02:16 <Wonka> congrats
May 19 12:02:47 <mrmoku> thanks... mum came back and situation will enhance real soon now :)
May 19 12:04:49 <mickey|office> hehe
May 19 12:50:46 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r49fd86140427 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): msmcommd: read configuration from global configuration file at /etc/msmcommd.conf
May 19 12:50:48 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r17adc253a47f 10/libmsmcomm/ (src/launch.c src/msmcomm.h vapi/msmcomm-1.0.vapi): libmsmcomm: rework msmcommd launch process as we now have a config file
May 19 12:50:49 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r506fc826b811 10/msmcommd/conf/ (Makefile.am msmcommd.conf): msmcommd: add missing default configuration file and ship it
May 19 12:50:51 <CIA-36> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * re2e289a19287 10/.gitignore: msmcomm: update global .gitignore
May 19 13:27:14 <JaMa> mrmoku: any idea what is WM_USER (except something from win32 API - found here in wine headers) and why it's needed in espeech code?
May 19 13:27:27 <JaMa> mrmoku: I'll probably disable that plugin again to build it in feed
May 19 14:18:26 <carcinoma> JaMa: did you know if navit is compiled with --avoid-float?
May 19 14:19:49 <JaMa> carcinoma: yes --enable-avoid-float
May 19 14:21:22 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmm... yes sounds very windowish
May 19 14:21:39 <carcinoma> JaMa: in oe receip is anything that checkt if the cpu has hard fpu, but i cant find anything for gta02 to enable it
May 19 14:23:52 <carcinoma> JaMa: or anything, that shows me that soft fpu it is already set for gta02
May 19 14:25:01 <JaMa> carcinoma: hard is only for armv6+ sane-toolchain.inc:TARGET_FPU_armeb ?= "soft"
May 19 14:25:09 <JaMa> s/armeb/arm/g
May 19 14:25:10 <apt> JaMa meant: carcinoma: hard is only for armv6+ sane-toolchain.inc:TARGET_FPU_arm ?= "soft"
May 19 14:26:10 <JaMa> so as I said.. in navit build for om-gta02 it's using --enable-avoid-float
May 19 14:26:43 <mrmoku> JaMa: espeak or espeech?
May 19 14:26:46 <carcinoma> JaMa: ok
May 19 14:27:23 <JaMa> mrmoku: navit/speech/espeak/speak.c
May 19 14:28:42 <vanous123> nobody told me a dayjob was supposed to be a thriller every day 
May 19 14:28:56 * vanous123 puzzled
May 19 14:29:50 <vanous123> at least kidos are gone with mama now :)
May 19 14:30:04 * JaMa haven't done any real daywork today, but helped few other people from daywork/customers to finish their part :)
May 19 14:30:13 <mrmoku> JaMa: that code looks strange :/
May 19 14:32:02 <mrmoku> JaMa: it's using HWND and other windows stuff too
May 19 14:32:39 <JaMa> yes.. I'll ask on #navit
May 19 14:47:26 <JaMa> mrmoku: http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit?view=rev&revision=2684 looks like it stayed win32 only
May 19 14:48:19 <JaMa> and now I remember reading it about half year ago when it was added :)
May 19 14:51:12 <mrmoku> JaMa: and nobody working on it?
May 19 14:52:37 <JaMa> seems so..
May 19 14:53:18 <JaMa> cannot search for last commit of rikki with sf.net SCM browser :)
May 19 14:54:01 * mrmoku can't do that with svn commandline too
May 19 14:55:01 <mrmoku> ok... calling svn log inside espeak tells me that that was the only commit from him there
May 19 14:55:24 <mrmoku> the rest of the commits in there is only build fixes :/
May 19 14:59:58 <JaMa> btw pushing navit/navit-icons bump
May 19 15:02:24 <shazkhan> mrmoku: Still can't have OE in shape to build a complete image. Starting from scratch again but I hate doing this!
May 19 15:14:38 <shazkhan> mickey|office: I hope the selinux hooks in dbus, being used for FSO2, have not been removed to increase performance ...
May 19 15:21:10 <mickey|office> no idea, tbh.
May 19 15:21:14 <mickey|office> if it is, we can readd it
May 19 16:18:18 <vanous123> mrmoku|dinner: tried Airplane mode here. When turned On for the first time, Idle screen shows up upon Aux press, but then jumps back away, subsequent Airplane mode Off and On fixes it. GSM Egadget doesn't get turned to Off though... shows None
May 19 16:18:23 <vanous123> mrmoku|dinner: just FYI
May 19 16:18:42 <vanous123> mrmoku|dinner: btw. anything i can help testing ATM?
May 19 16:38:37 <JaMa> Weiss: do you have a sec?
May 19 16:40:05 <JaMa> Weiss: nevermind, my fault (I'm rebasing gdrm-for-merging to 2.6.34 and overlooked something)
May 19 16:46:02 <shazkhan> mickeyl: How can we read ... didn't get it?
May 19 16:46:56 <playya_> readd
May 19 16:46:57 <mickeyl> if it would have been removed (which i doubt), we could readd it (re-add)
May 19 16:50:27 <shazkhan> k :)
May 19 17:35:08 * mickeyl installing his new ISDN phone which happens to run Linux...
May 19 17:38:35 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, hi ISDN phone?
May 19 17:38:45 <Kensan> mickeyl: hi
May 19 17:38:58 <Kensan> mickeyl: did you see the links I sent you about rooting the Dream?
May 19 17:39:04 <shazkhan> byby tiptel
May 19 17:39:18 * Kensan is a proud owner of dream over which he has complete control
May 19 17:39:19 <Kensan> :)
May 19 17:39:23 <Kensan> GNUtoo: hi
May 19 17:39:39 <GNUtoo> Kensan, wow you rooted it?
May 19 17:39:42 <shazkhan> welcome DX600A
May 19 17:40:37 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: yes, Siemens dx600a isdn
May 19 17:40:48 <GNUtoo> is it a mobile phone?
May 19 17:40:52 <GNUtoo> doesn't seem so
May 19 17:40:53 <mickeyl> no, fixed
May 19 17:40:54 <GNUtoo> isdn...
May 19 17:41:18 <mickeyl> ever since the Tuxphone i wanted a stationary linux-phone
May 19 17:41:33 <mickeyl> it's doubtful whether i can replace/enhance the firmware though
May 19 17:41:43 <Kensan> GNUtoo: yes, had to do it the "complicated" way by making a "goldcard"
May 19 17:41:58 <GNUtoo> Kensan, ouch how do you do that?
May 19 17:42:12 <GNUtoo> mickeyl, ah there are no sources?
May 19 17:42:31 <Kensan> GNUtoo: you need the card id of the microsd card but it's not as complicated as it might sound.
May 19 17:42:36 <mickeyl> there are some sources; but for sure they won't be complete nor will there be tools to assemble an image
May 19 17:42:43 <mickeyl> everything else would surprise me
May 19 17:42:43 <GNUtoo> ah microsd
May 19 17:42:45 <GNUtoo> not sim
May 19 17:42:54 <GNUtoo> ok
May 19 17:43:07 <Kensan> GNUtoo: bit this procedure works for all bootloader versions, even those that do only permit to install signed images from these "special" gold microsd cards.
May 19 17:43:24 <GNUtoo> ok
May 19 17:43:35 <Kensan> mickeyl: ISDN support in the kernel is good shape I think. There was quite some work on it even lately.
May 19 17:49:34 <mickeyl> heh, it can show RSS feeds
May 19 17:49:39 <mickeyl> sick :D
May 19 17:51:29 <Kensan> mickeyl: hehe
May 19 17:51:53 <Kensan> mickeyl: new platform for FSO? ;)
May 19 17:52:11 <mickeyl> depends on how much of the source actually is available
May 19 17:53:01 <Kensan> mickeyl: if you need help rooting your Dream just holler.
May 19 17:53:45 <mickeyl> Kensan: thanks! will definitely come back
May 19 17:54:33 <Kensan> mickeyl: the only tricky part is getting a proper goldcard but if your bootloader is a bit older you won't need to do that.
May 19 17:54:44 <mickeyl> i need to
May 19 17:54:49 <mickeyl> i once tried the easy way
May 19 17:54:59 <mickeyl> but it didn't want to accept the DREAMIMG.nbh
May 19 17:55:24 <Kensan> mickeyl: ah ok
May 19 17:55:45 <Kensan> mickeyl: I struggled with that to get a proper fat32 partition *lol*
May 19 17:55:54 <Kensan> mickeyl: otherwise it would not accept the file.
May 19 17:56:10 <Kensan> mickeyl: anyway, the link I sent you is quite thorough and easy to follow.
May 19 17:57:12 <graziano> nice
May 19 17:57:13 <graziano> http://aligunduz.org/av/FullyFreeDistroTalk.ogv
May 19 17:57:39 <Kensan> so I need to setup OE to build a dream image and start working on some open issues...
May 19 17:58:30 <mickeyl> Kensan: can't find the URI can you post it again?
May 19 17:59:04 <Kensan> mickeyl: over at openmoko-de
May 19 17:59:06 <Kensan> mickeyl: http://android-developers.de/hacking-android/howto-root-auf-dem-t-mobile-g1-htc-dream-update-28-12-2009-460.html
May 19 17:59:36 <mickeyl> thanks
May 19 17:59:52 <Kensan> mickeyl: when you have the goldcard.img just "dd" it to the card, not the complicated hexediter vodoo as in the howto.
May 19 18:00:06 <Kensan> s/hexediter/hexeditor/
May 19 18:00:07 <apt> Kensan meant: mickeyl: when you have the goldcard.img just "dd" it to the card, not the complicated hexeditor vodoo as in the howto.
May 19 18:02:35 <Kensan> mickeyl: btw, how's the shiny new macbook?
May 19 18:03:21 <mickeyl> _FAST_
May 19 18:03:37 <mickeyl> a 250G SSD and 8G of RAM are really helping ;)
May 19 18:06:09 <Kensan> mickeyl: hehe
May 19 18:07:30 <Kensan> mickeyl: does it have a mobile nehalem cpu?
May 19 18:09:23 <mickeyl> yes, corei7
May 19 18:10:09 <Kensan> mickeyl: sound good.
May 19 18:15:53 <mickeyl> yeah
May 19 18:15:57 <mickeyl> pretty much of a machine
May 19 18:16:18 <mickeyl> too heavy though
May 19 18:16:26 <mickeyl> i would have preferred the 13"
May 19 18:16:31 <mickeyl> but that one still comes with the core duo
May 19 18:17:22 <Kensan> mickeyl: what's the size + weight?
May 19 18:20:36 <mickeyl> 37x25
May 19 18:20:40 <mickeyl> 2.5kg
May 19 18:21:11 <Kensan> ok
May 19 18:23:58 <mickeyl> bbl
May 19 18:54:47 <badcloud> has anyone gotten near-satisfactory results using the BL-6C bat?
May 19 18:54:51 <badcloud> with a fr
May 19 18:55:41 <badcloud> under latest shr-unstable I get no bat life indicator
May 19 18:56:08 <badcloud> and I don't think charging works
May 19 18:56:42 <badcloud> anyone know which kernel I should be using?
May 19 18:58:57 <mrmoku> vanous123: hmm... can't see the relation between airplane mode and idle screen...
May 19 18:59:11 <mrmoku> vanous123: does airplane mode at least work as it is supposed to?
May 19 19:01:24 <badcloud> FATAL: Module gta01_battery not found.
May 19 19:01:28 <badcloud> help
May 19 19:03:27 <vanous123> mrmoku: not really
May 19 19:03:40 <vanous123> mrmoku: idle screen is trying to read gms status , or?
May 19 19:03:49 <vanous123> gsm*
May 19 19:04:43 <badcloud> PaulFertser: where can I obtain the gta01_battery module?
May 19 19:04:53 <badcloud> I see you've done some work on it
May 19 19:07:20 <mrmoku> vanous123: yup, but once it is started it does not actively read... waiting for signals instead
May 19 19:10:39 <vanous123> mrmoku: i understand... but am not sure what was causing it
May 19 19:11:17 <mrmoku> vanous123: np... lets observe it :P
May 19 19:11:34 <mrmoku> s/observe/keep an eye on/
May 19 19:11:34 <apt> mrmoku meant: vanous123: np... lets keep an eye on it :P
May 19 19:11:59 <vanous123> mrmoku: now is evening so i can fire up fr again, as there is a low chance of dayjob calls
May 19 19:12:15 <mrmoku> :)
May 19 19:24:48 <GNUtoo> Kensan, what are you up to? did you boot an image?
May 19 20:01:04 <Kensan> GNUtoo: not much yet, rather tired today.
May 19 20:01:27 <Kensan> GNUtoo: too much coding in C... it's really tiring ;)
May 19 20:03:06 <Kensan> GNUtoo: what are you working on? Did you make any progress?
May 19 20:05:04 <Kensan> GNUtoo: oh GPS is all done?
May 19 20:12:46 <GNUtoo> ok np
May 19 20:12:56 <GNUtoo> fb
May 19 20:13:10 <GNUtoo> but no progress 
May 19 20:13:19 <GNUtoo> at least no tangibles ones
May 19 20:13:36 <badcloud> anyone know when PaulFertser will be around?
May 19 20:14:00 <Kensan> badcloud: just ping him and he will answer when/if he is around.
May 19 20:14:34 <Kensan> GNUtoo: hm ok, the rotation issue?
May 19 20:14:57 <GNUtoo> no
May 19 20:15:15 <GNUtoo> it doesn't suspend because I added fbioblank
May 19 20:15:47 <Kensan> GNUtoo: ah I see. Where's the source you are working on? Is it the one on gitorious?
May 19 20:18:23 <GNUtoo> yes
May 19 20:18:28 <GNUtoo> leviathan-incomming
May 19 20:18:42 <GNUtoo> but right now I'm doing something else
May 19 20:18:48 <GNUtoo> but when I work on dream I do that
May 19 20:19:51 <Kensan> GNUtoo: ok, so if I start looking into it I should use that tree.
May 19 20:25:06 <badcloud> Kensan: thanks
May 19 20:29:18 <Kensan> badcloud: for what?
May 19 20:32:07 <GNUtoo> yes
May 19 20:32:59 <badcloud> help with shr-u using a BL-6C bat
May 19 20:33:18 <badcloud> under qtmoko it's stuck in a charge loop (disconnected)
May 19 20:33:46 <badcloud> under shr-u I cannot find the "dumb" battery driver modprobe gta01_battery
May 19 20:33:53 <badcloud> (without the modprobe)
May 19 20:34:07 <badcloud> and now I'm trying h1 rev 5
May 19 20:34:23 <badcloud> Kensan: think you could help :) ??
May 19 20:34:28 <shazkhan> GNUtoo: how and when?
May 19 20:36:35 <GNUtoo> shazkhan, ?
May 19 20:38:36 <JaMa> badcloud: opkg install kernel-module-gta01-battery?
May 19 20:40:55 <Kensan> badcloud: if it's on the system the kernel module should be somewhere under /lib/modules/2.6.??
May 19 20:43:15 <badcloud> JaMa: will try
May 19 20:43:22 <badcloud> Kensan: will look there
May 19 20:43:27 <badcloud> thanks for the help!
May 19 20:44:13 <JaMa> badcloud: please update wiki or wherever you read about modprobe gta01-battery
May 19 20:45:14 <badcloud> ok
May 19 20:49:22 <shazkhan> Does OE ever build without errors? asked a while ago ...
May 19 20:49:56 <shazkhan> has anyone tried openmoko over n900?
May 19 20:51:17 <JaMa> shazkhan: yes it builds fine usually (and when you know what needs to be done)
May 19 20:57:35 <badcloud> Kensan: still there?
May 19 20:58:33 <badcloud> (or JaMa). I installed kernel-module-gta01-battery and have /lib/modules/2.6.29_rc3/kernel/drivers/power/gta01_battery.ko but modprobe is still giving me not found
May 19 21:01:46 <JaMa> badcloud: depmod
May 19 21:03:40 <badcloud> nothing in return
May 19 21:03:43 <badcloud> but check this out
May 19 21:03:46 <badcloud> hold on
May 19 21:04:12 <badcloud> http://pastebin.com/RZPMUkZ1
May 19 21:04:33 <badcloud> notice the '2.6.29-rc3' in the command and error
May 19 21:04:54 <JaMa> modprobe KERNEL_MODULE_NAME
May 19 21:05:01 <badcloud> the command has '-' in it while the error has '_-
May 19 21:05:12 <JaMa> if you want the path, then use insmod
May 19 21:05:27 <badcloud> FATAL: Module gta01_battery not found
May 19 21:05:35 <JaMa> - is replaced with _ in kernel_module_names
May 19 21:06:04 <JaMa> modprobe gta01-battery
May 19 21:06:20 <badcloud> I see
May 19 21:06:35 <badcloud> modprobe gta01_battery
May 19 21:06:36 <badcloud> FATAL: Module gta01_battery not found
May 19 21:06:41 <badcloud> sorry for the paste
May 19 21:07:24 <JaMa> depmod should be called in kernel-module postinst, but if it's not found, then running depmod by hand should be enough to make modprobe find all modules
May 19 21:08:13 <badcloud> how do I do that?
May 19 21:08:44 <JaMa> it still doesn't work for you?
May 19 21:09:14 <JaMa> I mean that depmod was probably already executed on your device during opkg install kernel-module-gta01-baterry
May 19 21:09:19 <JaMa> s/rr/r/
May 19 21:09:19 <apt> JaMa meant: I mean that depmod was probably already executed on your device during opkg install kernel-module-gta01-batery
May 19 21:09:27 <badcloud> depmod does not give any error
May 19 21:09:28 <JaMa> arg
May 19 21:09:36 <JaMa> badcloud: that's normal
May 19 21:09:51 <badcloud> so, depmod, modprobe gta01-battery?
May 19 21:09:54 <JaMa> it will just refresh /lib/module/`uname -r`/modules.dep
May 19 21:10:00 <JaMa> just the 2nd
May 19 21:10:36 <badcloud> JaMa: worked
May 19 21:10:37 <badcloud> thanks
May 19 21:10:59 <badcloud> any way to fix the tray battery indicator?
May 19 21:11:53 <JaMa> it's already fixed for gta02 battery (not sure for gta01 battery)
May 19 21:13:34 <JaMa> are you talking about "rdg status" issue?
May 19 21:15:52 <badcloud> no, after modprobe, I get "N/A 0:00"
May 19 21:17:12 <JaMa> sorry I don't have dumb battery now for chec, but maybe I've seen this too and don't know easy fix
May 19 21:17:45 <badcloud> JaMa: ok, thanks
May 19 21:23:08 <badcloud> JaMa: is there a quickfix for shr-u auto-turnoff autosuspend when plugged in?
May 19 21:23:30 <badcloud> when plugged in, it suspends
May 19 21:25:40 <JaMa> badcloud: if you plug usb when fsodeviced is already running it doesn't suspend (at least here), then problem is when you're already booting with usb plugged in or restart fsodeviced (ie during opkg upgrade) then it's better to disable suspend in quick-settings
May 19 21:25:59 <badcloud> JaMa: gotcha
May 19 21:26:02 <badcloud> thanks a billion
May 19 21:30:50 <JaMa> badcloud: be aware that disabled suspend in quick-settings IIRC also won't stay disabled after fsodeviced
May 19 21:30:52 <JaMa> restart
May 19 21:32:32 <badcloud> yikes
May 19 21:32:36 <badcloud> complications galore
May 19 21:39:38 <pespin_> xserver refuses to stop ;)
May 19 21:39:39 <pespin_> # /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop
May 19 21:39:39 <pespin_> Stopping XServer
May 19 21:39:39 <pespin_> /bin/ps: invalid option -- 'e'
May 19 21:39:39 <pespin_> BusyBox v1.15.3 (2010-05-17 16:52:29 CEST) multi-call binary
May 19 21:40:39 <JaMa> pespin_: opkg install psmisc
May 19 21:40:55 <pespin_> thanks :)
May 19 21:41:08 <JaMa> pespin_: or opkg upgrade initscripts-shr
May 19 21:51:01 <lindi-> JaMa: how is that not a dependency?
May 19 22:11:37 <JaMa> lindi-: it's dependency of initscripts-shr (provider for /etc/init.d/functions where is killproc defined), but initscripts-shr is not upgraded on target because it's dependency only for image (not installed system :/)
May 19 22:13:25 <JaMa> lindi-: before it was dependency of xserver-nodm-init, because there was the same duplicit killproc function defined directly in init.d script
May 19 22:15:40 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: I've built 2.6.34-oe2 with gdrm patches (it's in my deploy dir, but it's not tested and I'll rather go to sleep now :)
May 19 22:58:36 <pespin_> JaMa|GoNe, root@om-gta02 ~ # opkg install psmisc
May 19 22:58:36 <pespin_> Package psmisc (22.2-r1.4) installed in root is up to date.
May 19 22:58:37 <pespin_> root@om-gta02 ~ # ps -ef           
May 19 22:58:37 <pespin_> ps: invalid option -- 'e
May 19 22:59:23 <max_posedon> which ps
May 19 23:21:50 <pespin_> max_posedon, # which ps
May 19 23:21:50 <pespin_> /bin/ps
May 19 23:22:07 <max_posedon> ls -la /bin/ps
May 19 23:24:12 <pespin_> max_posedon, # ls -la /bin/ps
May 19 23:24:13 <pespin_> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root            7 May 19 20:56 /bin/ps -> busybox
May 19 23:25:18 <max_posedon> so, you see
May 19 23:47:17 <pespin_> max_posedon, is busybox's ps the wrong one?
May 20 01:53:18 <DocScrutinizer> bah, quiet earth syndrome
May 20 01:53:21 <DocScrutinizer> bye
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