**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 25 02:59:57 2010 May 25 05:16:13 Weiss: it's not downloading to /tmp anymore.. tmp_dir is set to non-volatile /var/lib/opkg/tmp May 25 05:16:53 Weiss: and that's why you don't need swap anymore (just enough room on uSD) May 25 05:17:57 Weiss: xinput_calibrator gave me swapped values, right one here are: May 25 05:17:58 xinput set-int-prop "Touchscreen" "Evdev Axis Calibration" 32 107 918 911 98 May 25 05:18:02 xinput set-int-prop "Touchscreen" "Evdev Axes Swap" 8 1 May 25 05:18:25 but from calibrator I got "Evdev Axis Calibration" 32 918 107 98 911 May 25 05:19:45 and it's trying to ignore misclick (in latest git version) so sometimes it has problems recognizing clicks (when it thinks you're really off) but except swapped output it works here fine May 25 05:21:52 and sure there are sound drivers, md2k7 probably didn't read http://build.shr-project.org/shr-kms/ to switch his alsa states? May 25 05:25:55 Weiss: and I've read about ioctl without BLK on czech version of LWN, but didn't notice/remember that params are swapped :/ May 25 05:26:46 Weiss: so sould I switch SHR 2.6.34 to your gdrm-2.6.34 patches or is it not pushed yet? May 25 05:27:31 Weiss: ah nvm I see e-mail now :) May 25 05:27:44 Weiss: thanks a lot May 25 05:33:42 JaMa: what's new with kernels > 2.6.29? Are they working already normally? May 25 05:38:18 Q-Master: read readme http://build.shr-project.org/shr-kms/ May 25 05:38:38 it needs to run script and then newer 2.6.32 works fine May 25 05:45:02 why is it not in unstable then? May 25 06:16:53 JaMa: nice braindump :) May 25 06:45:31 Q-Master: because there was not enough testers to be sure it "works fine" for everyone May 25 06:46:14 Weiss: hehe, after reading that backlog from night.. :) May 25 06:48:56 JaMa: I've thought that "unstable" is for that purpose... May 25 06:51:12 yes but as we're quite happy with fsogsmd, we should move current shr-u to shr-t and then switch to .32 (and keep another stabilizing phase for a while) May 25 06:51:56 we should May 25 06:52:27 and it's not that hard to keep .32 installed in standard shr-u May 25 06:53:46 Q-Master: and there is one known bug (in gdrm-for-merging) Weiss will probably fix in gdrm-2.6.34 so at least we should wait for this one May 25 06:54:49 8) May 25 06:55:09 and someone need to fix the script. 8) May 25 06:55:42 what's wrong with script? May 25 06:56:54 * Weiss hasn't been able to reproduce the cmdq bug :S May 25 06:57:09 Weiss: with 2.6.34? or even with 2.6.32? May 25 06:57:40 either.. May 25 06:59:39 * JaMa checking diff of gdrm-2.6.34 and upgrading recipe May 25 07:02:02 it should be a straight rebase apart from one or two lines.. May 25 07:03:51 yes looks exactly like mine except one moved #include and that ioctl fix May 25 07:26:30 <[Rui]> good morning , good people! May 25 07:26:49 <[Rui]> JaMa: which kernel would you recommend to test? Is there a good rollback method? May 25 07:26:59 <[Rui]> (other than a full backup) May 25 07:28:20 [Rui]: uImage-2.6.32.13-oe1 May 25 07:29:21 [Rui]: oe2 is based on gdrm-for-merging branch which Weiss said has known bug, but that cannot be reproduced now (I'm using oe2, but with ocassional lock-up :/, but maybe it's related to something else then kernel) May 25 07:29:59 [Rui]: and rollback is easy.. just run switch-for-kernel without param and adjust uImage link in /boot May 25 07:36:02 <[Rui]> JaMa: ok, I won't do it right now as I'm a bit late in breakfast and then I have to go to work, but I'll either have some dead time during the day or then later on... May 25 07:36:23 [Rui]: ok, thanks May 25 07:36:36 [Rui]: I'm building newer 2.6.34 atm May 25 07:36:38 <[Rui]> as I use it as a phone, it's probably a good test ;) May 25 07:37:09 [Rui]: but maybe it's too experimental (2.6.34) for test if you're using it as a phone :) May 25 07:37:17 <[Rui]> hehe May 25 07:38:34 <[Rui]> wasn't there some issue about kernel size? May 25 07:43:07 JaMa: btw, do you take part in some "critical mass" events? May 25 07:43:49 [Rui]: if you're using u-boot you have to adjust env (described in wiki - link is in readme) May 25 07:43:54 <[Rui]> Qi May 25 07:44:55 PaulFertser: no :/ I haven't even used my bike to go to work this year :/ May 25 07:45:12 PaulFertser: last month is too rainy here :/ May 25 07:46:04 JaMa: i now started to use my bike to go to work occassionally. But i can't say i like much, 28km on the multilane the roads with heavy traffic, meh :/ May 25 07:46:37 JaMa: i used to go ever month on our CM event, but somehow it got too depolitized, so i stopped. May 25 07:47:07 PaulFertser: that's bad :/ I have it only about 8km and it's even faster than public transport (more direct route) May 25 07:47:35 PaulFertser: but even when the weather is ok in the morning, then there is terrible rain when I'm leaving work May 25 07:47:43 JaMa: i use bike to go to my uni, that's 3.5km and i do it no matter how cold, snowy or rainy outside. May 25 07:48:39 JaMa: i got under the rain the previous week, having only regular cycling jersey on top :/ It was so cold i couldn't ride anymore, so i had to restort to go via underground (with bike). May 25 07:48:52 <[Rui]> oh a patch to fso? that means that while it's not integrated, I should make sure to re-apply after any upgrades, right? May 25 07:49:13 I learned to get a portable polyethilen coat with me. May 25 07:49:30 [Rui]: right, but fsogsmd.conf is CONFFILE so it won't be overwritten itself May 25 07:49:40 [Rui]: but that gps change will be May 25 07:50:54 JaMa: btw, how do you like your mechanical disk brakes? I sometimes heard that regular v-brakes are better in most aspects, and if using disks, one'd better get hydraulic. May 25 07:51:14 <[Rui]> JaMa: seems like the script can blindly be reapplied... May 25 07:51:30 [Rui]: yes it can May 25 07:51:51 PaulFertser: I like them move that my old v-brakes May 25 07:52:15 PaulFertser: but I also heard that mechanical disk brakes are worse then *good* v-brakes May 25 07:53:20 PaulFertser: with my >90kg I feel safer with disk brakes (even mechanical), for 45kg girl it's probably the same (v-brakes | disc) May 25 07:53:21 JaMa: hehe, i've got bad (well, not really bad, just average) ones, and i can't what can be wrong with them, though i must admit hydraulic feels more precisely controllable and comfortable. May 25 07:53:37 JaMa: ah, ok, i really can't compare then May 25 07:53:51 JaMa: being a 55kg boy :) May 25 07:54:35 <[Rui]> JaMa: how I envy you, with my ~ 110 kg :| May 25 07:54:53 <[Rui]> see ya all later May 25 07:55:13 And yeah, step-in pedals ftw May 25 07:55:27 PaulFertser: yes with disc brakes I can control brake power more precisely (on the edge of skid) with v-brakes I had to press brakes with more strength (not so good for long route downhill) May 25 07:55:29 Though i never used those strange plastic panels that came with my Shimano M-520 May 25 07:56:14 JaMa: since i usually travel on roads, i'm using the front brake exclusively, so i'm more likely to fall over the bar than to skid the front wheel :) May 25 07:57:05 PaulFertser: I've attached plastic panels after few dirty tracks where my shoe get locked unexpectedly when I wanted to knock off some tree or something :) May 25 07:58:15 JaMa: hm, i once used my pedals in the really dirty conditions (and probably i was somewhat drunk even :-O) but i do not remember any troubles unlocking. May 25 07:58:55 I can't imagine any mood making unlocking uneasy, given you apply the force in the right direction. May 25 07:59:13 s/mood/mud/ May 25 07:59:13 PaulFertser meant: I can't imagine any mud making unlocking uneasy, given you apply the force in the right direction. May 25 08:01:00 JaMa: i also once had a ~60km trip around the town using regular boots instead of the proper cycling shoes (because it was -10C or something, too cold) didn't use the plastic thingie either ;) May 25 08:01:45 PaulFertser: well few times I unlocked before some part where is expected the need to touch ground, then carefully using only heels (to stay unlocked) and in the end of stream where the worse mud was I was locked (unexpectedly) and those few ms before I was able to unlock (not expecting to be locked already) cost me a bit of mud on my shoe :) May 25 08:02:40 JaMa: ah, i see. So probably it was a wrong technique (using heels to stay unlocked) in the end, because professional CC riders do not seem to be doing anything like that. May 25 08:05:54 * PaulFertser wants to go cycling somewhere but not alone :/ May 25 08:13:21 PaulFertser: yes even staying locked would be better then wrongly expecting to be unlocked :) May 25 08:14:13 PaulFertser: and my experience and unlocking speed is far from professional CC riders :) May 25 08:14:32 JaMa: looks like it was a damn cool trip you had, congrats. May 25 08:14:36 * PaulFertser 's bit envy May 25 08:14:50 PaulFertser: which one? :) May 25 08:14:56 France? May 25 08:15:16 JaMa: yeah May 25 08:15:47 Finally gotten to look through the photos May 25 08:16:33 I was invited to go this year again (spring and autumn term) but I refused because I'm keeping my holiday for USA trip (3-4 weeks) :/ May 25 08:17:29 JaMa: wanna give your fingerprints to the big brother, eh? ;) May 25 08:18:07 PaulFertser: maybe we can meet someday for trip over Ukraine, or some other destination not so far from us both :) May 25 08:18:30 JaMa: that would be great, really! What's your average mileage per day? May 25 08:19:18 about 100km if it's "only bike" week or so vacation May 25 08:19:26 In fact i would be happy to visit Czech Republic as well. May 25 08:19:51 maybe Belarus would be better distance-from-us wise May 25 08:20:16 100km is perfectly ok for me, i once did it in ~4 hours i think. May 25 08:20:30 (on plain roads of course) May 25 08:20:40 but not sure how is it with bike roads there (Ukraine is quite popular here because of it's nature and CC tracks) May 25 08:21:18 Hm, i have no CC-ready bike at all but i think i can borrow a fork if needed. May 25 08:21:44 We gotta ask max_posedon about BY biking conditions. May 25 08:22:28 PaulFertser: if you decide to visit Czech Republic then I'll take you for some bike trip or Prague sightseeing if you want :) May 25 08:22:42 JaMa: btw, to go to the Czech i'd need to obtain a visa, and that is not needed for Belarus or Ukrain. May 25 08:23:02 JaMa: nice offer. I'm now really considering going there. May 25 08:23:34 PaulFertser: but as said before if I go to that USA trip my vacation days are already quite gone for this year :/ May 25 08:24:11 and I don't care too much about my fingerprint (as I also have an FB account :)) May 25 08:25:22 JaMa: well, i guess you'll be able to spare one weekend regardless, right? May 25 08:31:38 PaulFertser: yeah weekends are ok May 25 08:31:49 Obtaining a Schengen Visa is PITA for a free traveller as they require you to provide proof of accomodation for the whole duration of "stay". Well, either that, or an official "invitation" (not exactly easy/fast for a person who's sending it) :/ assholes May 25 08:31:58 PaulFertser: but quite short for trip to BL :) May 25 08:32:17 Of course. I was considering CZ when i wrote that. May 25 08:33:30 * Weiss hugs his GB passport.. only recently come to appreciate it.. May 25 08:34:38 PaulFertser: and you would travel to CZ with bike? May 25 08:34:38 Heh. Last time the very nice owner of LinuxHotel provided me with a necessary fax, so it wasn't an issue, but i guess i was just lucky. May 25 08:34:58 JaMa: bikes can be brought on airplanes, yes, i investigated that. May 25 08:36:32 good, we went to France in bus with cart for bikes.. May 25 08:36:56 much easier than the reverse :) May 25 08:37:31 bus for bikes and cart for people? :) May 25 08:37:40 where are you from? :) May 25 09:52:27 Hm, airline ticket to CZ is as expensive as train :/ May 25 10:12:29 hrmf. current shr-u doesn't ask me for SIM PIN on boot. May 25 10:12:46 despite "offline_mode=false" in phonefsod.conf May 25 10:13:09 log says: [phonefsod] WARNING: GSM request still running... May 25 10:13:32 ah, there it is. "only" takes unbelievably long. May 25 10:57:21 spaetz: I know you're off and probably busy, but what do you think about merging current shr-u to shr-t (for fsogsmd switch?) May 25 11:31:40 mrmoku|away: I've added all 2.6.31+ patches as local OE patches (instead of switch-for-kernel), if you're interested then merge last 10 commits from my gitorious repo and rebuild from scratch (because I didn't bump PR yet - as it can be all pushed upstream and only SRCREV bumped and there is also newer eglibc) May 25 11:45:43 * Weiss ponders the fuss over fitting new electronics into the FR case, when the FR case is possibly one of its most limiting features May 25 11:47:01 iff there will be a new GTAxy some time... I want some free usb and/or i2c inside to attach things to May 25 11:48:01 i suppose gta02-core is dead? wiki hasn't been updated for ages May 25 11:48:25 i also suppose OM will not be bringing out a new HW in the next few years (if ever) May 25 11:48:39 not dead.. they have a design and are currently trying to get hold of components May 25 11:48:55 but I suspect that any new GTA kind-of-device will be known by a different name May 25 11:48:59 mhm May 25 11:50:26 * Weiss would like some open (even just "open-ish") hardware with non-SGX graphics (no possibility at all there for FOSS graphics work) May 25 11:50:30 Weiss: I agree that trying to fit beagle to fr case just because of fr case (not so popular case I think) is as good as trying to cover beagle with usable case and usb UMTS stick with some touchscreen lcd and keeping old freerunner as it is May 25 11:52:13 I've bought smallish keyboard for my neo.. so when I need some newer development board I'll buy standard beagle + some smaller external ts lcd May 25 11:53:48 N900 is "acceptably open" for my particular requirements as far as I can tell.. toying with the idea of getting one May 25 11:54:12 but SGX is not so interesting May 25 11:54:55 * Weiss -> seminar May 25 11:55:27 * JaMa is still waiting for some multi-core beast from samsung :) May 25 11:56:20 N900 is not exactly cheap though May 25 12:18:13 mrmoku|away: and btw switching to 2.6.3* is ready only for gta02, gta01 doesn't have even defconfig and nobody tested it, problem is that ie fsogsmd.conf and framework.conf are shared so when we switch we need also gta01 to have same sysfs nodes.. May 25 12:18:24 is there some gta01 user? May 25 12:57:57 dos1: hi, what about switching to .32? :) May 25 12:58:30 JaMa: tell me that later, now i'm only online for few seconds May 25 12:58:40 JaMa: i need to download something and then go out May 25 12:58:46 so see ya ;] May 25 12:59:24 JaMa: nobody seems to want to report bugs about it May 25 12:59:33 JaMa: i'm not migrating before i hear bug reports :) May 25 13:00:36 yes that's what I said when somebody asks me about switch to .32 :), but maybe only possible way to make users complaining/reporting is to switch default shr-u image May 25 13:02:14 I have few commits cleaning linux-openmoko recipes in OE and I'm building newer images with all changes from switch-for-kernel script already applied in OE May 25 13:03:01 JaMa: one problem is, that the kernel is to big for uboot default env May 25 13:03:09 and also removing kernel touchscreen driver calibration from 89xTsCalibration (to be prepared for 2.6.34) May 25 13:04:00 Heinervdm: I can move some drivers back to modules to make it <2MB.. but not so happy about it :/ May 25 13:04:51 JaMa: but i think we should have a image that runs on the FR without modifing uboot env or flashing another bootloader May 25 13:05:16 2.6.32.10 was still < .32 then I merged defconfigs with qtmoko and moved all needed (always loaded) modules to kernel May 25 13:05:32 Heinervdm: why? May 25 13:05:46 Heinervdm: if the user uses u-boot, it's up to him to do configure it. May 25 13:06:31 I strongly disagree with the idea to care about those who use deprecated u-boot and do not want (why on Earth?) to change its env variable accordingly. May 25 13:06:33 and strange that 0.4M is added by gdrm branch merge (for 2.6.34) :/ May 25 13:07:40 PaulFertser: I agree with Heinervdm, because I use NOR u-boot sometimes to boot from NAND (when there is jffs2 image) and NOR env cannot be saved (afaik) May 25 13:08:00 JaMa: right, NOR env cannot be saved May 25 13:08:33 JaMa: but using NOR u-boot for actual booting is deprecated, you won't have proper power management (and probably have other bugs) with it. May 25 13:08:37 PaulFertser: i think a lot of people using uboot are less advanced... May 25 13:08:43 JaMa: it can be used as a rescue system though. May 25 13:08:55 Heinervdm: then they must switch to a simpler solution. May 25 13:09:54 PaulFertser: I have usually ubi in NAN so NOR u-boot is not usable for me.. but it's faster to boot from it then skip uSD1,2,3 to boot jffs2 from NAND with Qi May 25 13:10:24 btw is qi-menu author here? May 25 13:10:25 PaulFertser: if it's hard to shrink the kernel, ok. But if it's an easy task we should do it May 25 13:10:45 Heinervdm: i'd agree with this idea. May 25 13:11:07 Heinervdm: it's easy for cost that you have to keep right modules installed ie for snd driver etc May 25 13:11:10 Heinervdm: moreover we should have similar defconfigs for gta01 and gta02 and gta01 users do not have much choice. May 25 13:11:29 yes May 25 13:13:19 JaMa: opkg should take care of installed modules :D May 25 13:13:39 :) May 25 13:14:18 less advanced users wget newer uImage and complains that it doesn't work.. but ok, opkg should take care :) May 25 13:15:13 the less advanced user installes a kernel with opkg upgrade May 25 13:27:25 hi, does anyone know how can I fix /bin/sh: line 2: ./tclsh: cannot execute binary file ? May 25 13:27:52 this makes building tcl fail on do_install May 25 13:54:24 on shrt-t: i don't get any sound on calling, the other side hears me (with echoes) May 25 13:54:37 how to fix? May 25 14:03:17 JaMa: ..size of kernel is that? May 25 14:05:43 Weiss: yes May 25 14:06:08 Weiss: it should be almost the same defconfig and only added patches between oe1 and oe2 are drm and 4 patches from qtmoko May 25 14:11:19 stevendh: works here. Is that a fresh install? May 25 14:12:31 spaetz: installed freshly two weeks of so ago May 25 14:13:00 i could make one test call with sound, after that it stopped working May 25 14:13:22 also, i can't find any *.state files, should i be worried? May 25 14:13:56 stevendh: they are in /etc/freesmartphone/conf/fsodeviced/openmoko_gta/alsa* May 25 14:14:10 stevendh: without .state extension May 25 14:15:08 JaMa: do you mean /etc/freesmartphone/conf/openmoko_gta? May 25 14:15:22 i don't seem to have /etc/freesmartphone/conf/fsodeviced/ May 25 14:17:37 i have e.g. /etc/freesmartphone/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-default/gsmhandset, with different format from former *.state May 25 14:19:02 stevendh: yeah sorry May 25 14:19:39 stevendh: that's right, alsa scenarios should be used only by call to fsodeviced May 25 14:20:12 JaMa: np, i understand the constant flux May 25 14:20:28 JaMa: bizarre..DRM is a reasonable amount of code, but I don't think it should be 400k May 25 14:21:03 maybe i'd better check what has changed from alsa confs in default fsodeviced package May 25 14:21:03 Weiss: I can try to build the same kernel only with swapped defconfig to non-drm variant May 25 14:21:40 stevendh: do you have directories alsa-2.6.29 and alsa-2.6.31 with link alsa-default to former one? May 25 14:22:13 JaMa: exactly May 25 14:22:23 then this should be ok May 25 14:23:23 maybe something in the calling program? May 25 14:24:50 I'm not using shr-t, do you have volume sliders in calling app? May 25 14:25:08 do they work (mic as well as speaker?) May 25 14:25:14 yes, two sliders and two flipswitches May 25 14:26:18 i don't hear any difference upon fiddling with the speaker one, don't know if the other side experiences any difference with the other May 25 14:26:54 i remember having to flip the first switch every time before hearing anything, now it seems dead May 25 14:28:02 what file does this program log to? May 25 14:29:18 probably something can be in /var/log/phoneui* May 25 14:31:24 this has: 'MESSAGE: No speaker value for idle found, using none' and idem for microphone, several times May 25 14:35:42 my gsmhandset has "77:'Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Sw':1:0", default is 1 May 25 15:04:18 right, apparently the cause was a stray '1' on a separate line in gsmspeaker May 25 15:04:24 don't know how it got there... May 25 15:05:56 (i also reset the default for alsa control 77 in gsmhandset, then rebooted) May 25 15:06:50 strange, can you compare your version with history in http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=history;f=fsodeviced/conf/openmoko_gta;hb=HEAD ? May 25 15:07:17 stevendh: iirc in shr-t is only last 2 commits missing May 25 15:07:53 and http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=blob;f=fsodeviced/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-2.6.29/gsmspeaker;h=36c3f8f4005f67082be645079f715e46dd44cf82;hb=2d93941acf30c78112eada9f8b1ed62cbe0810e2 doesn't show any stray '1' May 25 15:11:48 btw is power consumtion in suspend ok with 2.6.32? May 25 15:11:53 the only real difference was the stray 1, but i don't know who put it there May 25 15:11:58 probably me... May 25 15:12:14 i have around 80mA which is obviously too much... May 25 15:13:09 stevendh: ok :) please check opkg install -force-reinstall fsodeviced May 25 15:13:35 stevendh: to be sure that it's ok for all shr-t users (but should be as OE recipe is not changing anything in those alsa files..) May 25 15:13:59 JaMa: i'll be back in a jiffy May 25 15:14:51 should i reboot? May 25 15:16:43 stevendh: or restart fsodeviced May 25 15:16:46 * JaMa leaving, bye May 25 15:20:41 works nicely, thanks May 25 15:47:51 i have another issue: the message-writing ui doesn't accept keyboard input (notes does) May 25 15:48:27 What does the following mean: updating shr-unstable tree HEAD is now at 104b91c tcl 8.5.8: fix header location From git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded 104b91c..de05c6b org.openembedded.dev -> origin/org.openembedded.dev Your branch is behind 'origin/org.openembedded.dev' by 25 commits, and can be fast-forwarded. May 25 15:48:46 do i need to do git pull after make update. May 25 15:49:05 git pull in shr-unstable/openembedded? May 25 16:26:35 no, make update pulls May 25 16:26:46 actually that is about the only thing it does :) May 25 17:28:42 heyho May 25 17:36:28 Yo May 25 17:36:45 Did you guys study "Alice in Wonderland" at school? May 25 17:38:05 if not, at least watch the movie... May 25 17:47:51 PaulFertser, I've been told recently by my ex philosofy teacher (he's great one!) that the book's story line is is full of interesting logic problems May 25 17:47:58 or something similar he said, don't remember ;) May 25 17:48:30 haven't read the book, only Dinsey's film when I was young, and recently tim burton's one :P May 25 17:49:09 pespin: of course. It's funny, logical, just pure awesome, hilarious etc. Must read. Btw, Carrol was specialising in math logic! May 25 17:49:20 Wonka: no, movie doesn't work May 25 17:51:28 PaulFertser, about that math logic I suppouse he was speaking hehe May 25 17:51:39 I should read it too some day May 25 17:52:25 pespin: i'd say right now ;) May 25 17:52:36 pespin: really enjoyable May 25 17:52:48 Plenty of pun and word games too. May 25 17:52:59 PaulFertser, did you read it in english? May 25 17:53:43 pespin: first i read it in my native language (several times iirc), then i read it in english once, and i keep reading parts of it in english occasionally. May 25 17:54:13 I guess you'll need to read both (probably at the same time) to get the full picture. May 25 17:55:10 uhm I may look at bookdepository.co.uk for one, maybe they have an offert May 25 17:55:35 pespin: it's available for free via Project Gutenberg and other sources. May 25 17:56:22 PaulFertser, I don't like reading books in electronic format. too much time on the computer already doing other things ;) Too much for my eyes :P May 25 17:56:31 Ok, understandable May 25 17:57:02 PaulFertser, how long is it? May 25 17:57:34 pespin: not really long May 25 17:57:45 btw, I recently heart that the book wasn't originally titled "Alice in wonderland" hehe May 25 17:58:01 Yeah, wikipedia article lists many other interesting facts about it. May 25 17:58:55 hehe, you can buy the book at 2.10 euros at bookdepository (transport charges already in) ;) May 25 17:59:16 Kewl May 25 18:55:02 pespin: have you read a short novel The Gift of the Magi ? If you like irony, you'll like that one. May 25 19:45:41 PaulFertser, no, looking at it now ;) May 25 19:47:05 <[Rui]> JaMa|Sports: haven't done it yet! (kernel upgrade to 32) May 25 19:54:56 <[Rui]> rebooting now May 25 19:59:32 <[Rui]> oh fudge May 25 20:00:57 <[Rui]> JaMa|Sports: got a kernel panic on boot with the latest 2.6.32 kernel May 25 20:07:04 <[Rui]> JaMa|Sports: but after a second attempt it's apparently booting May 25 20:38:25 hi Kensan May 25 22:09:18 <[Rui]> 2.6.32 for the loose :( May 25 22:09:59 <[Rui]> wifi doesn't work, the illume desktop had graphical noise (not the panels or other apps, though), and now I have a most brilliant fscking WSOD :( May 25 22:15:30 with or without KMS? May 25 22:16:40 with KMS I believe it works as far as the second display rotation.. not sure why May 25 22:16:48 <[Rui]> Weiss: do I need to do something to get KMS? May 25 22:16:58 <[Rui]> I just used what's on the site May 25 22:17:49 depends on the kernel config.. if the kernel has it enabled, everything else should work May 25 22:19:39 <[Rui]> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-kms/ May 25 22:20:18 in that case, you should have KMS.. May 25 22:20:25 what were you doing when in WSoD'd? May 25 22:25:45 <[Rui]> nothing, it was simply idle May 25 22:26:05 <[Rui]> Weiss: it also would just stay suspended... constanly resuming after a few seconds... May 25 22:31:27 that's.. odd May 25 22:31:39 <[Rui]> sure is May 25 22:31:52 your WSoD might be the same as mrmoku's... was it a full ("hard") WSoD, or could your still SSH? May 25 22:34:00 <[Rui]> Weiss: now it's back! May 25 22:35:34 <[Rui]> and now I don't even get eth1 on my laptop May 25 22:40:25 what's back? the USB, or the WSoD? May 25 22:40:49 <[Rui]> Weiss: the screen May 25 22:40:58 <[Rui]> Weiss: it came back from WSoD May 25 22:41:06 <[Rui]> but I still don't have USB net May 25 22:42:55 * Weiss thinks you have mrmoku's WSoD May 25 22:43:03 I wonder why I don't get it.. May 25 22:46:44 <[Rui]_> Weiss: but the most weird thing about the wifi issue is: ping google.com works May 25 22:47:05 <[Rui]_> telnet identi.ca 443 doesn't even resolve to an IP address. May 25 22:47:09 <[Rui]_> nslookup identi.ca does May 25 22:47:17 <[Rui]_> telnet identi.ca 443 again, same shit: doesn't even resolve to an IP address. May 25 22:48:10 strace ? May 25 22:48:43 <[Rui]_> misc: now I don't get usb net May 25 22:49:13 <[Rui]_> laptop's dmesg doesn't even show a thing May 25 22:49:29 <[Rui]_> rebooting... May 25 22:52:15 <[Rui]_> oh, just brilliant, WSoD on boot May 25 22:52:29 <[Rui]_> and still no usbnet May 25 22:52:55 <[Rui]_> I'm going back asap, that is, as soon as I get a console running :| **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 26 02:59:57 2010