**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 04 02:59:57 2010
Jun 04 07:52:31 <zub> morning
Jun 04 08:00:20 <zub> I wonder what all should GPRS survive. - What should happen when the phone gets out of coverage? Should it then automagically reconnect when coverage is restored?
Jun 04 08:00:43 <zub> and what about suspend? It is ok to let the phone suspend, and then hope for the connection to be automatically restored on resume?
Jun 04 08:01:43 <zub> I just took shr-u + gta02 on a test ride through subway (no coverage between stations) and neither ppp nor phonegsmd complained in their logs; the connectivity was gone in tunnels, but quickly back up in stations
Jun 04 08:02:14 <zub> ehm, I mean fsogsmd
Jun 04 08:22:23 <morphis> heyho
Jun 04 08:34:34 <Wonka> zub: I think some of those things you mentioned (regarding GPRS reconnects) should be configurable
Jun 04 08:35:57 <Wonka> one cannot remote control his device when it doesn't reconnect ;)
Jun 04 08:36:46 <zub> well, I first wanted to know what's the expected state
Jun 04 08:37:25 <zub> I have always been a bit wory about suspend while connected to GPRS... from back when the connection handling was flaky
Jun 04 08:38:05 <zub> but I just tried suspend and gprs is working ok on resume
Jun 04 08:38:25 <zub> seems it really is rock-solid, as someone said on the ML :)
Jun 04 09:13:03 <radekp> zub: GSM is not powered off in suspend, so there should be no problem with GPRS in suspend
Jun 04 09:21:24 <zub> radekp: what is there's some GPRS activity? does the cpu wake up to handle that?
Jun 04 09:22:08 <zub> I thought that when the FR is suspended, it's effectively dead for any GPRS/PPP traffic
Jun 04 09:22:28 <radekp> hmm good question, but i dont know :)
Jun 04 09:26:41 <Wonka> I'd like to find (or be shown) some docs on who does the PPP
Jun 04 09:27:02 <zub> Wonka: what do you mean by "who"?
Jun 04 09:27:05 <zub> pppd does it :)
Jun 04 09:27:18 <Wonka> somewhere I had gotten the impression that PPP was really only done between the GSM chip's firmware and pppd
Jun 04 09:27:38 <Wonka> and that there was no ppp actually going over the air
Jun 04 09:27:58 <Wonka> otherwhere it sounded like ppp was going over the air
Jun 04 10:06:49 <ThibG> hm, seems like gta02_udc_vbus_draw is called, but with a very low ma value (2)
Jun 04 10:19:18 <rtp> ThibG: quick guess: for some reason, the driver is using CONFIG_USB_GADGET_VBUS_DRAW to set MaxPower and CONFIG_USB_GADGET_VBUS_DRAW is set to the default value (which is 2)
Jun 04 10:20:46 <ThibG> indeed
Jun 04 10:21:12 <ThibG> thanks :)
Jun 04 12:06:36 <PaulFertser> zub: radekp: (gprs while suspended): it works like that: the Calypso is never "suspended", it always runs independently of SoC (and does its power management on its own). But when you suspend the phone the calypso is "told" to issue an IRQ via a dedicated line on _any_ char it wants to transfer to SoC (and it keeps it in its internal buffer while waiting for SoC to handle that).
Jun 04 12:11:31 <radekp> PaulFertser: does the SoC wake up on that irq?
Jun 04 12:11:38 <PaulFertser> radekp: exactly
Jun 04 12:12:35 <PaulFertser> radekp: and after it's woken up, the gsm daemon starts to run again and it pulls down the hardware flow control line and the modem senses that and finally starts to transfer the bytes from its buffer.
Jun 04 12:36:40 <zub> PaulFertser: so, gprs should not be affected by suspend
Jun 04 12:36:44 <valos> morphis: ping
Jun 04 12:36:48 <morphis> valos: pong
Jun 04 12:36:52 <PaulFertser> zub: indeed
Jun 04 12:36:57 <valos> morphis: i updated http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre:_Install_FSO
Jun 04 12:37:02 <morphis> great
Jun 04 12:37:14 <valos> morphis: only section 1 Build the FSO image
Jun 04 12:38:07 <morphis> I see
Jun 04 12:38:15 <morphis> the openembedded setup stuff
Jun 04 12:38:27 <valos> yes
Jun 04 12:39:06 <morphis> btw. you should use bitbake 1.10 from git.openembedded.net
Jun 04 12:39:15 <morphis> it's a lot faster than the old version 1.8.*
Jun 04 12:39:40 <morphis> http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/bitbake/
Jun 04 12:39:45 <morphis> just use the master branch
Jun 04 12:40:33 <valos> morphis: ok
Jun 04 12:40:47 <morphis> valos: you already booted the image?
Jun 04 12:41:21 <valos> morphis: no, I forgot my second phone at home this morning
Jun 04 12:42:27 <morphis> ah ok
Jun 04 12:43:00 <daniele_athome> hiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Jun 04 12:43:39 <JaMa|Wrk> h
Jun 04 12:48:08 <daniele_athome> long time no see! how's going here? :)
Jun 04 12:49:29 <ThibG> seems that even with CONFIG_USB_GADGET_VBUS_DRAW=500, gta02_udc_vbus_draw gets called with ma=2
Jun 04 13:05:45 <ThibG> (nevermind, I've not updated the modules...)
Jun 04 13:07:30 <JaMa|Wrk> daniele_athome: slowly.. mrmoku on vacation, TAsn busy with RL, /me playing with gcc
Jun 04 13:07:52 <daniele_athome> eheh :)
Jun 04 13:08:02 <daniele_athome> i'm stucked too... waiting for reworks
Jun 04 13:08:38 <daniele_athome> with today it's about 10 days that my phone is in the hands of mr daniel willmann
Jun 04 13:08:48 * JaMa|Wrk just running byte bench to see how faster is code generated with gcc-4.5
Jun 04 13:09:00 <JaMa|Wrk> someone with older image built with gcc-4.3?
Jun 04 13:09:01 <daniele_athome> lol
Jun 04 13:10:04 <JaMa|Wrk> I'm not kidding, koen once said that gcc-4.4 wasn't used in angstrom because of much slower binaries then 4.3 and that it's fixed again in 4.5
Jun 04 13:11:36 <daniele_athome> mmm
Jun 04 13:11:48 <daniele_athome> improvements that (i guess) will be very useful for the arm world
Jun 04 13:13:03 <JaMa|Wrk> linaro is also going for gcc-4.5.. so there will be more testing/improvements now
Jun 04 13:13:10 <daniele_athome> good
Jun 04 13:21:07 <daniele_athome> got to go now :)
Jun 04 13:21:09 <daniele_athome> see you soon!
Jun 04 15:45:34 <pespin> hey
Jun 04 15:45:41 <pespin> I got this while opkg upgrading:
Jun 04 15:45:42 <pespin> Collected errors:
Jun 04 15:45:42 <pespin>  * check_data_file_clashes: Package libgps wants to install file /usr/lib/libgps.so.19.0.0
Jun 04 15:45:42 <pespin> 	But that file is already provided by package  * check_data_file_clashes: libgps19
Jun 04 15:46:00 <pespin> shal I rm libgps.so.19.0.0 and reupgrade?
Jun 04 15:49:00 <JaMa|Wrk> pespin: no, opkg remove libgps19
Jun 04 15:54:53 <pespin> ok thanks :)
Jun 04 16:55:14 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07msmcomm * rc2ece42c5522 10/libmsmcomm/vapi/msmcomm-1.0.vapi: libmsmcomm: vapi: fix indentation
Jun 04 17:07:20 * daniele_athome has its moko back!!!!! :)
Jun 04 17:10:31 <Q-Master> mickeyl: ping
Jun 04 17:13:47 <mickeyl> Q-Master: yo
Jun 04 17:15:16 <Q-Master> mickeyl: seems that it is not a fsogsmd problem. or it is complex. I am having "none" at the net indicator, but due to the logs the network is present and fsogsmd sees the incoming voice rings, but that's all.
Jun 04 17:16:19 <mickeyl> what does an org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.GetStatus() tell when it is in that mode?
Jun 04 17:17:22 <Q-Master> mickeyl: can you give me a correct line for mdbus? I am not able to compose it myself
Jun 04 17:18:23 <mickeyl> hmm
Jun 04 17:18:34 <mickeyl> that's sad - mdbus2 is supposed to be really self-explanatory
Jun 04 17:18:42 <mickeyl> please give it a try 
Jun 04 17:18:47 <mickeyl> start with mdbus2 -s
Jun 04 17:19:01 <mickeyl> and then drill down until you have all three parameters
Jun 04 17:22:21 <Q-Master> is that correct: mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.GetStatus  ?
Jun 04 17:22:28 <mickeyl> splendid
Jun 04 17:22:47 <Q-Master> it tells nothing
Jun 04 17:23:10 <Q-Master> i'm still waiting for it to complete the query
Jun 04 17:24:15 <Q-Master> root@om-gta02 ~ # mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.GetStatus 
Jun 04 17:24:15 <Q-Master> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
Jun 04 17:26:48 <mickeyl> that's bad, it is hung then. any logs?
Jun 04 17:29:32 <Q-Master> 2010-06-04T17:10:15.514874Z [INFO]  libfsotransport <0710:1>: URC: [ "+CRING: VOICE" ]                                                                                                                                                                                              
Jun 04 17:29:33 <Q-Master> 2010-06-04T17:10:15.515430Z [DEBUG] TiCalypsoUnsolicitedResponseHandler : Dispatching AT unsolicited '+CRING', 'VOICE'                                                                                                                                                              
Jun 04 17:29:33 <Q-Master> 2010-06-04T17:10:15.515985Z [DEBUG] FsoGsmGenericAtCallHandler <>: Synchronizing call status
Jun 04 17:29:39 <daniele_athome> guys there is a problem in /etc/X11/Xsession
Jun 04 17:29:45 <Q-Master> the last line repeats till now
Jun 04 17:31:54 <Q-Master> mickeyl: or you need a full log?
Jun 04 17:32:07 <daniele_athome> what happened to touchscreen axis?!?
Jun 04 17:32:08 <daniele_athome> :S
Jun 04 17:32:31 <mickeyl> Q-Master: ya, let me glance over a pastebing or so
Jun 04 17:33:45 <Q-Master> daniele_athome: opkg install -force-reinstall pointercal-xinput
Jun 04 17:33:46 <daniele_athome> oh... already fixed :)
Jun 04 17:33:53 <daniele_athome> Q-Master, thanks, read right now ;)
Jun 04 17:33:58 <Q-Master> 8)
Jun 04 17:35:37 <Q-Master> mickeyl: http://pastebin.org/307354
Jun 04 17:36:10 <Q-Master> damn
Jun 04 17:36:14 <Q-Master> it was cut
Jun 04 17:36:26 <daniele_athome> Q-Master, ehm... axis are rotated 90 degrees
Jun 04 17:36:35 <daniele_athome> scrolling horizontally actually scrolls vertically
Jun 04 17:36:37 <daniele_athome> and viceversa
Jun 04 17:37:03 <Q-Master> daniele_athome: just reinstall and reboot and everything'll be ok
Jun 04 17:37:12 <daniele_athome> Q-Master, reboot?
Jun 04 17:37:12 <daniele_athome> ok...
Jun 04 17:37:21 <daniele_athome> is not enough to restart just X?
Jun 04 17:37:25 <daniele_athome> anyway i'm rebooting
Jun 04 17:37:26 <Q-Master> nop
Jun 04 17:37:40 <daniele_athome> ok :)
Jun 04 17:39:12 <Q-Master> mickeyl: http://pastebin.org/307356
Jun 04 17:39:19 <Q-Master> second part
Jun 04 17:41:17 <mickeyl> did it resume due to a call or due to user action?
Jun 04 17:42:10 <Q-Master> I've pressed a power button to connect it to usb to charge
Jun 04 17:42:18 <Q-Master> and to update
Jun 04 17:43:37 <mickeyl> hmm, apparantly the modem did not answer anymore on one channel
Jun 04 17:44:10 <mickeyl> there's one thing i didn't port from ogsmd, which is the sysfs flow control toggling on suspend/resume
Jun 04 17:44:12 <mickeyl> perhaps we need thqt
Jun 04 17:44:52 <Q-Master> might be
Jun 04 17:45:19 <Q-Master> because before moving to fsogsmd none of such a things ever happened
Jun 04 17:55:16 <daniele_athome> i've posted the ls problem to shr-suer...
Jun 04 17:55:23 <daniele_athome> s/shr-suer/shr-user/
Jun 04 17:55:23 <apt> daniele_athome meant: i've posted the ls problem to shr-user...
Jun 04 20:31:52 <zub> mickeyl: trying mdbus2 -l -s, then enabling GPRS resuls in segfault in mdbus2 (current shr-u)
Jun 04 20:33:48 <shazkhan> Matrix_: I can't find first-run-wizard.bb! Anyways it does not scale well to business use-cases.
Jun 04 20:34:06 <shazkhan> or healthcare and defense etc
Jun 04 20:35:19 <zub> Select your user name, enter gprs details, select your primary ammo, ...
Jun 04 21:06:51 <[Rui]> i all
Jun 04 21:18:06 <zub> mickeyl: how do org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.Status and org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ContextStatus fit together?
Jun 04 21:18:34 <zub> when PDP is activated/deactivated, should I be getting GSM.Network.Status too?
Jun 04 21:52:07 <zub> mickeyl: I'm seeding both Network.Status and PDP.ContextStatus on gprs connect, but then only PDP.ContextStatus on disconnect.
Jun 04 21:52:13 <zub> s/seeding/seeing/
Jun 04 21:52:15 <apt> zub meant: mickeyl: I'm seeing both Network.Status and PDP.ContextStatus on gprs connect, but then only PDP.ContextStatus on disconnect.
Jun 04 21:52:34 <zub> btw. sorry for highlight flood, but I assumed you're the person to ask :)
Jun 04 21:54:34 <zub> hm, this is in face what I see on the level of libphone-ui, so it might not be exactly what's happening on dbus
Jun 04 23:41:17 <TAsn> JaMa|Wrk, hopefully I'll free some time this week or the next! :P
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