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Jun 19 04:57:53 <|if3> :)
Jun 19 05:01:49 <|if3> :(
Jun 19 05:02:05 <JaMa> ||
Jun 19 05:02:09 <|if3> lol
Jun 19 05:02:17 <|if3> i forgot how to flash my phone :|
Jun 19 05:02:34 <|if3> just DD the image over onto my microsd card? then boot off it?
Jun 19 05:04:43 <JaMa> good that wiki pages are still there, right? :P
Jun 19 05:05:24 <JaMa> an no DD is needed, just untargzip it to prepared ext* fs
Jun 19 05:07:18 <|if3> :O
Jun 19 05:07:19 <|if3> wicked
Jun 19 05:07:21 <|if3> thanks :)
Jun 19 06:51:49 * PaulFertser wonders what makes Illume ignore /some/ .desktop files in /usr/share/applications :/
Jun 19 09:20:16 <Azog> it was quite a while ago i flashed my fr the last time. which image is working best, ubi/jffs2/etc. ?
Jun 19 09:24:49 <PaulFertser> Azog: jffs2
Jun 19 09:24:56 <PaulFertser> Azog: ubi gets corrupted for unknown reasons
Jun 19 09:25:15 <PaulFertser> Azog: or just use root on uSD.
Jun 19 09:25:35 <Azog> PaulFertser: thanks, i try jffs2
Jun 19 09:28:44 <Azog> i can see some qi-images, too. should i also flash this and which one?
Jun 19 09:29:21 <PaulFertser> Azog: do you mean you're asking if you should flash bootloader?
Jun 19 09:30:22 <Azog> PaulFertser: yes
Jun 19 09:30:59 <Azog> maybe there were some bugfixes or something like this
Jun 19 09:31:02 <PaulFertser> Azog: if you're happy with the one you've got now, no.
Jun 19 09:31:11 <PaulFertser> Azog: just avoid the koolu's Qi fork 
Jun 19 09:31:12 <PaulFertser> :)
Jun 19 09:32:12 <Azog> ok
Jun 19 10:31:23 <leviathan> mickey|wm: hi
Jun 19 10:31:31 <leviathan> you're watching football again?
Jun 19 10:39:31 <leviathan> mickey|wm: I had to remove the htcdocs from my ftp repository now
Jun 19 10:39:38 <leviathan> is it ok to put it on wikileaks?
Jun 19 10:40:13 <dcordes> leviathan: tell me more about it. cease and desist email ?
Jun 19 10:40:34 <leviathan>  "Donald J. Sullivan, Esq." <DocCtrlAgent@qualcomm.com>
Jun 19 10:40:41 <dcordes> leviathan: I have seen it before and I have wondering for how long they will stay :) msm7kA datasheet eh
Jun 19 10:40:59 <dcordes> lol can you put the mail somewhere ? :D
Jun 19 10:41:00 <leviathan> jup
Jun 19 10:41:05 <leviathan> yes
Jun 19 10:41:07 <leviathan> its a pdf
Jun 19 10:41:08 <leviathan> mom
Jun 19 10:41:10 <dcordes> that would be nice
Jun 19 10:41:11 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 10:42:04 <dcordes> btw good to see you are fixing msm nand. the qualcomm strategy regarding mainline is really nice with all the help we are getting
Jun 19 10:42:07 <leviathan> http://ftp.o2s.ch/o2s.ch%20Removal%20Request%2020100618.pdf
Jun 19 10:42:47 <dcordes> ok hve it thanks
Jun 19 10:43:05 <leviathan> they can ask theyre mom, to delete the datasheet on my ws when she is here in my room the next time >_<
Jun 19 10:43:23 <leviathan> sry
Jun 19 10:43:24 <leviathan> had to be
Jun 19 10:44:34 <dcordes> lol
Jun 19 10:44:49 <dcordes> well if this would have been a year ago or so the tone would have been different
Jun 19 10:45:03 <leviathan> yes
Jun 19 10:45:12 <leviathan> I know why
Jun 19 10:45:18 <leviathan> because I wanna rewrite usable code
Jun 19 10:45:20 <leviathan> xD
Jun 19 10:45:41 <leviathan> they've seen what I can do with the specs
Jun 19 10:45:47 <leviathan> writing better code in two days
Jun 19 10:45:56 <leviathan> then they managed to write in a month
Jun 19 10:46:00 <leviathan> now they're cranky
Jun 19 10:46:01 <leviathan> xD
Jun 19 10:46:20 <dcordes> you think this is any related to the efforts documented on linux-arm-msm ml ?
Jun 19 10:46:26 <leviathan> jup
Jun 19 10:47:52 <leviathan> at least I've something exciting this holydays in my mail box
Jun 19 10:47:55 <leviathan> its something xD
Jun 19 10:51:00 <dcordes> :)
Jun 19 10:53:19 <Kensan> moin
Jun 19 10:53:54 <dcordes> moin Kensan 
Jun 19 10:54:20 <leviathan> moin
Jun 19 10:55:11 <Kensan> leviathan: oh how fun, lawyers
Jun 19 10:55:19 <leviathan> yeah
Jun 19 10:55:24 <Kensan> leviathan: where did you publish a link to these documents?
Jun 19 10:55:29 <Kensan> leviathan: just in this channel?
Jun 19 10:55:33 <leviathan> uhm
Jun 19 10:55:39 <leviathan> I had it on my ftp repo
Jun 19 10:55:40 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 10:55:44 <leviathan> in /
Jun 19 10:55:55 <leviathan> I guess you finally found it on google
Jun 19 10:56:02 <leviathan> it was uploaded for such a long time
Jun 19 10:56:03 <leviathan> xD
Jun 19 10:56:23 <leviathan> and I posted the link multiple time
Jun 19 10:56:27 <dcordes> sshhhh
Jun 19 10:56:32 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: hi
Jun 19 10:56:34 <Kensan> aha
Jun 19 10:56:36 <dcordes> hi GNUtoo|laptop 
Jun 19 10:56:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi
Jun 19 10:56:46 <Kensan> GNUtoo|laptop: hi
Jun 19 10:56:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi all
Jun 19 10:56:56 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: http://ftp.o2s.ch/o2s.ch%20Removal%20Request%2020100618.pdf
Jun 19 10:57:10 <leviathan> in the future please mail me for the docs xD
Jun 19 10:57:24 <leviathan> ohh, and use gnupgs
Jun 19 10:57:25 <dcordes> hi GNUtoo|laptop 
Jun 19 10:57:28 <leviathan> *GNUpg
Jun 19 10:57:30 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 10:57:32 <dcordes> oops
Jun 19 10:57:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 10:57:46 <dcordes> leviathan: hope you won't get a mail from those lawyer guys requesting pdf then :D
Jun 19 10:58:00 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 10:58:09 <leviathan> ohh, btw
Jun 19 10:58:24 <leviathan> I only send emails to people I signed :-)
Jun 19 10:58:33 <leviathan> next time we need to do a signing party
Jun 19 10:58:45 <leviathan> ohh, right
Jun 19 10:58:47 <leviathan> there was one
Jun 19 10:58:49 <leviathan> I just missed it
Jun 19 10:58:52 <leviathan> next time
Jun 19 10:58:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> how did they knew that you hosted the docs?
Jun 19 10:59:08 <dcordes> :( same but I don't even have some key setup
Jun 19 10:59:17 <leviathan> perhaps it was uploaded such a long time, that they found it on google
Jun 19 10:59:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 10:59:35 <leviathan> anyway
Jun 19 10:59:38 <leviathan> other theme
Jun 19 10:59:45 <leviathan> I'm try'n atm to get backlight working
Jun 19 10:59:48 <Kensan> hm speaking of key signing... I need to do a key rollover soon
Jun 19 10:59:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> backlight?
Jun 19 11:00:22 <dcordes> what is the minimum requirement to install a german keymap in console-image ?
Jun 19 11:01:25 <leviathan> dcordes: certainly to have a keymap
Jun 19 11:01:28 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 11:03:09 <dcordes> that's helpful
Jun 19 11:03:27 <mickeyl> morning
Jun 19 11:03:35 <leviathan> mickeyl: moin
Jun 19 11:03:49 <dcordes> morning mickeyl 
Jun 19 11:04:18 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: http://pastebin.com/yK04jVnx
Jun 19 11:04:25 <spaetz> howdy
Jun 19 11:04:25 <leviathan> could you please try out this patch
Jun 19 11:04:46 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=summary
Jun 19 11:04:49 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: http://pastebin.com/yK04jVnx
Jun 19 11:04:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> what's that?
Jun 19 11:04:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> gpio support?
Jun 19 11:05:01 <leviathan> that my try
Jun 19 11:05:11 <leviathan> to add backlight functionality into upstream
Jun 19 11:05:17 <leviathan> and usb gadget support
Jun 19 11:05:18 <leviathan> it builds
Jun 19 11:05:26 <leviathan> but somehow... does not work out
Jun 19 11:05:27 <dcordes> GNUtoo|laptop: you tried the new gpiolib support on your dream ?
Jun 19 11:05:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> not yet
Jun 19 11:05:48 <Kensan> mickeyl: moin
Jun 19 11:05:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi mickeyl 
Jun 19 11:06:37 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: I'm just asking you to take a look onto my modifications
Jun 19 11:06:51 <leviathan> it would be the first step of porting our drivers to upstream
Jun 19 11:06:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 11:07:02 <leviathan> making fbconsole working ;-)
Jun 19 11:07:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> could you send some git-patch?
Jun 19 11:07:09 <leviathan> hmm, sure
Jun 19 11:07:11 <leviathan> mom
Jun 19 11:09:10 <Kensan> mickeyl: I have all parts now to solder a a cable to get serial output from the nexus.
Jun 19 11:09:22 <Kensan> mickeyl: I will not have time to work an that this weekend though.
Jun 19 11:09:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, we need to talk
Jun 19 11:09:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> Kensan, nice
Jun 19 11:10:25 <Kensan> GNUtoo|laptop: it's just a first step. Will try to get serial console/UART for nexus.
Jun 19 11:10:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 11:10:35 <Kensan> GNUtoo|laptop: first with android kernel and then upstream.
Jun 19 11:10:55 <mickeyl> Kensan: sounds good
Jun 19 11:10:59 <mickeyl> GNUtoo|laptop: yo, what's up
Jun 19 11:11:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, I've made the /proc node,then I've been waiting for the comments on your part and/or the implementation
Jun 19 11:11:48 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: sent to your no-log adress
Jun 19 11:11:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, ok thanks
Jun 19 11:11:59 <mickeyl> GNUtoo|laptop: how's the proc node called?
Jun 19 11:12:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> /proc/wakelocks_last_lock
Jun 19 11:12:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> or something like that
Jun 19 11:13:11 <mickeyl> k, let me build a kernel and check whether that works for me
Jun 19 11:13:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> btw mickeyl <likewise> was looking for you in #oe, he was looking for iphone developers
Jun 19 11:14:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok thanks a lot
Jun 19 11:14:57 * GNUtoo|laptop even wondered if you would have come back
Jun 19 11:15:44 <mickeyl> heh, of course
Jun 19 11:15:50 <mickeyl> what makes you think i wouldn't?
Jun 19 11:16:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> your blog + your long absence
Jun 19 11:16:10 <mickeyl> ah
Jun 19 11:16:16 <mickeyl> yes, things are a bit delicate for me these days
Jun 19 11:16:29 <leviathan> what? why?
Jun 19 11:16:57 <mickeyl> i wonder whether i'm in the right profession when contract software development gives me so much grief
Jun 19 11:17:05 <mickeyl> (very briefly ;)
Jun 19 11:17:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> ha laws against people not working in companies or small companies?
Jun 19 11:17:48 <Kensan> mickeyl: is it more a freelancer vs. job at a company thing?
Jun 19 11:18:32 <leviathan> mickeyl: I guess science would be the right place
Jun 19 11:18:38 <leviathan> you even have a doctorate?
Jun 19 11:18:43 <mickeyl> leviathan: i have
Jun 19 11:18:43 <leviathan> why not go deeper?
Jun 19 11:18:53 <leviathan> means
Jun 19 11:18:55 <mickeyl> ya, been asking myself that
Jun 19 11:19:03 <leviathan> give lectures =)
Jun 19 11:19:06 <leviathan> I mean
Jun 19 11:19:14 <leviathan> you've got professional knowledge
Jun 19 11:19:26 <leviathan> why not teach students to do right products?
Jun 19 11:19:35 * GNUtoo|laptop wonder why mickeyl is not working in oe stuff
Jun 19 11:19:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> there are some good demand for it
Jun 19 11:20:20 <leviathan> I'm dreaming of holding lectures
Jun 19 11:20:23 <Kensan> well I am off to watch football. Banzai!
Jun 19 11:20:25 <mickeyl> Kensan: hard to say. i guess it's more of a problem that I don't like working in shortterm projects where i have the feeling i don't learn anything from project to project; i just copy'n'paste code and adjust to the domain specifics. very boring. combine this with whining clients (budget budget budget) and their fluctuating requirements... it sucks big time.
Jun 19 11:20:31 <leviathan> I love to teach interested people new stuff
Jun 19 11:20:33 <mickeyl> Kensan: Hopp Schwiiz!
Jun 19 11:20:53 <Kensan> mickeyl: nono, my other heritage is acting up, the samurais ;)
Jun 19 11:21:17 <leviathan> Kensan: did you see the interview concerning bp?
Jun 19 11:21:19 <Kensan> mickeyl: I can feel your pain...
Jun 19 11:21:27 <Kensan> leviathan: erm no?
Jun 19 11:21:30 <leviathan> some of the guys in the senat told the bp chef
Jun 19 11:21:38 <leviathan> (he japanese)
Jun 19 11:21:47 <Kensan> ?
Jun 19 11:21:50 <Kensan> Tony Hayward?
Jun 19 11:21:55 <Kensan> He's australian no?
Jun 19 11:22:01 <leviathan> "in the old time, we gave the people a sward and asked them to do harakiri"
Jun 19 11:22:09 <leviathan> "in such situations"
Jun 19 11:22:18 <leviathan> *sword
Jun 19 11:22:39 <Kensan> It's actually not that far off...
Jun 19 11:23:12 <Kensan> just that in japan they throw themself of buildings or under a train these days :/
Jun 19 11:23:16 <leviathan> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/15/lawmaker-tells-bp-chief-to-commit-hara-kiri/?fbid=tzyhVTVkYXv
Jun 19 11:23:20 <leviathan> there it is
Jun 19 11:23:21 <leviathan> xD
Jun 19 11:23:59 <Kensan> there were many managers that commited suicide e.g. in the 90's in Japan when they had their big economic crisis.
Jun 19 11:24:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> short therm means very short?
Jun 19 11:24:43 <mickeyl> GNUtoo|laptop: 10-40 mandays usually
Jun 19 11:25:01 <mickeyl> all of the contract iphone projects i done so far fall into this category
Jun 19 11:25:06 <Kensan> mickeyl: academia would actually allow you to work on long-term stuff but then again I don't know if it is as gratifying as building things that people need..
Jun 19 11:25:50 <mickeyl> Kensan: indeed. one of the reasons i wanted to go "out" was to build things that reach production maturity
Jun 19 11:26:02 <mickeyl> i love to build stuff people are actually using
Jun 19 11:26:03 <Kensan> mickeyl: scoring a "hacker"-job at a company that would give you a lot of freedom to do it your way...
Jun 19 11:26:10 <Kensan> but they are *very* rare.
Jun 19 11:26:17 <mickeyl> Kensan: true.
Jun 19 11:26:21 <mickeyl> yes, unfortunately
Jun 19 11:26:22 * Kensan is silent for the japanese anthem
Jun 19 11:26:27 <mickeyl> :)
Jun 19 11:26:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 11:27:31 <mickeyl> anyways, a decision will not be made before the end of this year
Jun 19 11:27:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> for instance there was a good job with oe,at buglabs but it's already taken by stephen shmitt
Jun 19 11:27:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> that was longer I think
Jun 19 11:27:53 <Kensan> mickeyl: I am very fortunate that I believe I have such a job... very interesting projects from which I learn lot etc.
Jun 19 11:28:32 <mickeyl> that's cool
Jun 19 11:28:44 <Kensan> mickeyl: well I am sure you will find something that suits you :)
Jun 19 11:29:30 <mickeyl> *nod* beforehand, i just need to find out what i really want
Jun 19 11:29:33 <mickeyl> "just" ;)
Jun 19 11:29:55 <Kensan> mickeyl: yes, it's very interesting to take stuff researches describe in their papers and then figure out how to actually make it work with real hardware and software
Jun 19 11:29:59 <Kensan> *heh*
Jun 19 11:30:08 <leviathan> mickeyl: my reasons why I develop OE is because I need small OS which you can use
Jun 19 11:30:15 <mickeyl> root@htcdream:/proc# cat wakelocks_last_lock 
Jun 19 11:30:15 <mickeyl> wake_lock: mddi_link_active_idle_lock
Jun 19 11:30:21 <leviathan> e.g to controll flux of a meg
Jun 19 11:30:27 <leviathan> remember
Jun 19 11:30:30 <Kensan> mickeyl: yes, knowing what you want is the basis. the rest will follow from that with a little luck
Jun 19 11:30:32 <leviathan> OE also works on avr32
Jun 19 11:30:43 <leviathan> so you can drive microcontroller circuits
Jun 19 11:30:45 <leviathan> with OE
Jun 19 11:30:50 <Kensan> anyway, the game is on.
Jun 19 11:30:53 <Kensan> catch you later
Jun 19 11:30:58 <Kensan> :)
Jun 19 11:31:00 <leviathan> which is very smart in combination with ethernet
Jun 19 11:31:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, is that ok? should I remove wake_lock: ?
Jun 19 11:31:13 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: just remove it
Jun 19 11:31:20 <leviathan> we do not need android working ;-)
Jun 19 11:31:21 <mickeyl> GNUtoo|laptop: yes, we can remove that. is it normal in "idle" mode?
Jun 19 11:31:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> I think so
Jun 19 11:31:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok I'll remove that
Jun 19 11:31:45 <mickeyl> ok, then let me check what happens when i wake up with power button
Jun 19 11:43:26 <leviathan> htc_fb_console.c:(.init.text+0x920): undefined reference to `create_mapping'
Jun 19 11:43:32 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: do you have an idea?
Jun 19 11:43:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll look later,I need to push changes for mickeyl
Jun 19 11:43:57 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 11:45:03 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r95ab240e8de4 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/lowlevel_android/plugin.vala: fsousaged: lowlevel_android: add debug code for /proc/wakelocks_last_lock
Jun 19 11:45:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, pushed the removal of printing wake_lock: before the lock's name
Jun 19 11:46:22 <mickeyl> thanks
Jun 19 11:47:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commit/2d0b2f1e0374aa68931f56c94171f27174c2f229
Jun 19 11:48:15 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 11:48:44 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: now
Jun 19 11:48:47 <leviathan> our problem
Jun 19 11:48:51 <leviathan> htc_fb_console.c:(.init.text+0x920): undefined reference to `create_mapping'
Jun 19 11:49:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 11:49:12 <leviathan> it has gotten an inline function
Jun 19 11:49:17 <leviathan> how can we use it anyway?
Jun 19 11:50:03 <leviathan> we need to initialize something
Jun 19 11:50:13 <leviathan> else we have a mute and blind handy
Jun 19 11:50:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, ?
Jun 19 11:50:56 <leviathan> no fbconsole
Jun 19 11:51:00 <leviathan> no usbgadget
Jun 19 11:51:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah no usbgadget
Jun 19 11:51:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> that's bad
Jun 19 11:51:14 <leviathan> perhaps we have
Jun 19 11:51:31 <leviathan> and its just not getting a valid rootfs because of broken sd/mmc driver
Jun 19 11:51:32 <leviathan> I dunno
Jun 19 11:51:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> usbgadget does not compile?
Jun 19 11:51:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 11:51:42 <leviathan> because I do not get output on fbconsole
Jun 19 11:51:44 <leviathan> >_<
Jun 19 11:51:53 <leviathan> with the two patches
Jun 19 11:52:05 <leviathan> you get usb and backlight compiling
Jun 19 11:52:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> did you try loading an image?
Jun 19 11:52:10 <leviathan> yes
Jun 19 11:52:18 <leviathan> it doesnt show us a fbconsole
Jun 19 11:52:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> by image I mean jpeg etc...
Jun 19 11:52:27 <leviathan> huu?
Jun 19 11:52:30 <leviathan> good idea?
Jun 19 11:52:33 <leviathan> do you have one?
Jun 19 11:52:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Jun 19 11:52:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> let me find it
Jun 19 11:52:50 <leviathan> send it to my email plz
Jun 19 11:52:52 * GNUtoo|laptop is booting his htcdream
Jun 19 11:52:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 11:53:06 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: how do I load it?
Jun 19 11:53:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> else fso2-demo-images load an image
Jun 19 11:53:23 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 11:53:31 <leviathan> hmm, good idea
Jun 19 11:53:34 <leviathan> mom
Jun 19 11:53:42 <leviathan> I'll compile an image with yaffs2
Jun 19 11:53:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 11:53:50 <leviathan> and load it into mtd3
Jun 19 11:53:55 <leviathan> then I'll boot from there
Jun 19 11:53:58 <leviathan> perhaps it works
Jun 19 11:54:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 11:56:14 <leviathan> I'll need to build it locally
Jun 19 11:56:17 <leviathan> it seems broken
Jun 19 11:56:23 <leviathan> the server
Jun 19 11:56:24 <leviathan> -.-
Jun 19 11:57:11 <Q-Master> mickeyl: fix plz loosing of a GSM while in deep sleep.
Jun 19 11:57:56 <mickeyl> Q-Master: i'm afraid that needs a hardware fix
Jun 19 11:58:35 <Q-Master> mickeyl: you're kidding me, no? fso-abyss worked with 1024 fix and fsogsmd - not. very strange
Jun 19 12:09:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, btw: 
Jun 19 12:09:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> 2010-06-18T15:51:24.765563Z [WARN]  QualcommHtcModem <>: No handler for URC +HTCCNIV w/ rhs "","","22288", please report to Mickey <smartphones-userland@linuxtogo.org>
Jun 19 12:09:35 <mickey|> Q-Master: i must confess I have no idea what your problem is about. How exactly is the GSM being dropped?
Jun 19 12:09:43 <mickey|> Q-Master: Is there a bugentry for that?
Jun 19 12:09:55 <mickey|> Q-Master: can you reproduce it without the full SHR and just the FSO stack?
Jun 19 12:09:58 <mickey|> GNUtoo|laptop: right
Jun 19 12:10:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically I think Q-Master talks about recamping
Jun 19 12:10:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's #1024
Jun 19 12:10:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically the only thing we can do is:
Jun 19 12:10:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> do not make the modem sleep
Jun 19 12:10:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> if he got #1024
Jun 19 12:10:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe that's what he wants
Jun 19 12:10:58 <Q-Master> GNUtoo|laptop: it is not recamping bug
Jun 19 12:11:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah what is it then?
Jun 19 12:11:08 <Q-Master> and I have a 1024 fix
Jun 19 12:11:12 <Q-Master> and it worked
Jun 19 12:11:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 12:11:19 <Q-Master> till fsogsmd
Jun 19 12:11:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah you've got A7+
Jun 19 12:11:58 <Q-Master> and it is not recamp, it just loose the connection to network at all.
Jun 19 12:12:06 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: is it possible you see http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/561
Jun 19 12:13:11 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: that might be.
Jun 19 12:13:47 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra681bca3032d 10/.gitignore: gitignore++
Jun 19 12:14:05 <Q-Master> mickeyl: it is not loosing anything if I don't do any network activity. if I call or get SMSes (like today) after suspend/resume - no network.
Jun 19 12:14:35 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: in that state i can call my phone and i hear calling rings but the freerunner doesn't ring or reacts.
Jun 19 12:14:53 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: yep. definitely that
Jun 19 12:15:14 <Q-Master> exactly I mean
Jun 19 12:15:14 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: so it's not surprising you see it.
Jun 19 12:15:38 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: the most major stability issue i'm aware of.
Jun 19 12:16:11 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: 8(
Jun 19 12:16:46 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: If not that problem, I was hoping to switch to freerunner as main phone.
Jun 19 12:21:17 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: you seem to be the first man confirming it
Jun 19 12:21:26 <lindi-> Q-Master: i use a watchdog that periodically checks that you are connected
Jun 19 12:22:24 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: I think that I was the first who got that problem. Remember I was asking you about deep-sleep. That was that problem.
Jun 19 12:23:09 <lindi-> PaulFertser: which bug is it?
Jun 19 12:24:23 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: I wonder how the linux kernel gets developed
Jun 19 12:24:34 <leviathan> if noone ever reacts
Jun 19 12:24:36 <leviathan> -_-
Jun 19 12:25:53 <PaulFertser> lindi-: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/561
Jun 19 12:29:16 <mickey> GNUtoo|laptop: hmm, are you sure the proc node is only updated after resume?
Jun 19 12:29:30 <mickey> to me it looks like it's always showing the last wakelock
Jun 19 12:29:44 <leviathan> so, I now just modified mmu.c
Jun 19 12:29:46 <mickey> suspend resume is a subset of those though
Jun 19 12:29:50 <leviathan> hope no one kills me for that
Jun 19 12:29:55 <mickey> i.e. i don't want to see
Jun 19 12:30:03 <mickey> * Message: plugin.vala:78: wake_lock: vbus_present
Jun 19 12:30:08 <mickey> since this is not a resume reason
Jun 19 12:30:10 <mickey> or is it?
Jun 19 12:37:02 <leviathan> the controller should start loading itself
Jun 19 12:37:12 <leviathan> no need for resumation
Jun 19 12:48:42 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: would be very nice, if you could help me try getting the fbconsole working in upstream ;-D
Jun 19 12:49:12 <leviathan> because I looked at theire code
Jun 19 12:49:23 <leviathan> its much more comfortable to port our drivers there
Jun 19 12:49:26 <leviathan> then vice versa
Jun 19 12:50:28 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: you could take a look onto backlight
Jun 19 12:50:36 <leviathan> and tell me, why it doesnt load
Jun 19 12:50:37 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 12:55:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickey, you told me that you wanted this exact information
Jun 19 12:55:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> we looked trough the logs
Jun 19 12:55:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> and found something like gpio_kp
Jun 19 12:55:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> I told it was just printing last wakelock
Jun 19 12:56:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> but you told me it was what you wanted
Jun 19 12:57:02 <mickey> hmm, ok, i will take a look at the patch
Jun 19 12:59:03 <mickey> event3-780
Jun 19 12:59:05 <mickey> hmm
Jun 19 13:00:34 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: 03ospite 07cornucopia * r0bf82294bdc2 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atmediators.vala: 
Jun 19 13:00:34 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: add AtNetworkUnregister mediator
Jun 19 13:00:34 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Antonio Ospite <ospite@studenti.unina.it>
Jun 19 13:00:37 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: 03ospite 07cornucopia * r972bf81f54c8 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/dbus_service/plugin.vala: (log message trimmed)
Jun 19 13:00:37 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: implement org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.Unregister()
Jun 19 13:00:37 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: This prevents getting messages like:
Jun 19 13:00:37 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org: Traceback (most recent call last):
Jun 19 13:00:37 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org:  File "./fso-listen-for-calls.py", line 53, in <module>
Jun 19 13:00:37 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org:  run()
Jun 19 13:00:38 <CIA-56> freesmartphone.org:  File "./fso-listen-for-calls.py", line 49, in run
Jun 19 13:03:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickey, isn't vbus_present the usb cable
Jun 19 13:04:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> and plugin the usb cable could be a resume reason
Jun 19 13:05:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> strangely
Jun 19 13:05:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> gpio_kp is the back button
Jun 19 13:07:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> while true;do cat /proc/wakelocks_last_lock ;done | tee wakelock | uniq gives good infos
Jun 19 13:07:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> should I add uniq support in the kernel?
Jun 19 13:08:57 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: lol
Jun 19 13:09:08 <leviathan> upstream doesnt have the broken NAND
Jun 19 13:09:11 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 13:09:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 13:09:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> nice
Jun 19 13:09:30 <mickey> hmm
Jun 19 13:09:32 <mickey> the problem is
Jun 19 13:09:33 <leviathan> we only have sd card
Jun 19 13:09:50 <mickey> with the present state we can't tell anything
Jun 19 13:10:00 <mickey> since the wakelocks are fluctuating all the time during normal operation
Jun 19 13:10:01 <mickey> have a look at
Jun 19 13:10:06 <mickey> watch -n 1 -d cat /proc/wakelocks
Jun 19 13:10:09 <mickey> that's crazy :D
Jun 19 13:10:30 <mickey> so i was hoping that the proc node only captures the state that lead to waking pu
Jun 19 13:10:34 <mickey> waking up
Jun 19 13:10:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok,how should I do that
Jun 19 13:10:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> look at wakelock.c
Jun 19 13:10:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> or
Jun 19 13:10:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> compile wakelocks with debug on
Jun 19 13:11:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> and echo to the module node
Jun 19 13:11:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> to get debug messages
Jun 19 13:11:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> and tell me what message you want
Jun 19 13:12:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> I feared that the patch would be useless from the beginning
Jun 19 13:12:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> that's why I really wanted to hear you when you would have tried to implement fso part
Jun 19 13:14:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> hmmm
Jun 19 13:14:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> there is a main wakelock
Jun 19 13:14:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> I wonder if we can capture something with that main
Jun 19 13:15:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> such as:
Jun 19 13:15:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> main == suspend
Jun 19 13:15:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> or something like that
Jun 19 13:18:58 <mrmoku> JaMa: does libcanberra build for you?
Jun 19 13:20:31 <mickey> i wonder whether userland is using the constants defined in smd_private.h
Jun 19 13:20:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> which ones? I'll look
Jun 19 13:22:52 <ftn> Hey there. Tried remoko on shr-t but it doesn't run properly. Do you know any other application to use the neo as a virtual mouse or keyboard?, please
Jun 19 13:23:31 <mickey> hmm
Jun 19 13:23:33 * mickey has an idea
Jun 19 13:24:00 <mickey> we could synthesize the resume reason by looking at /proc/interrupts
Jun 19 13:24:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> good idea
Jun 19 13:24:44 <PaulFertser> ftn: have you tried to fix it? Last time i looked, the git HEAD version was modified to work with bluez4.
Jun 19 13:24:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> seem better than the wakelock thing
Jun 19 13:25:29 <mickey> it's not as fine grained as the wakelocks
Jun 19 13:25:34 <mickey> however for our purpose it might be good enough
Jun 19 13:25:48 <mickey> i.e. tell whether it was GSM or a button that woke us up
Jun 19 13:25:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> should I look at suspend more?
Jun 19 13:26:23 <ftn> PaulFertser it seems like the problem is python-dependent (AKA: ImportError: No module named remoko_server). And yes, I have installed remoko-server :)
Jun 19 13:27:01 <mickey> GNUtoo|laptop: there's one thing I'm still wondering, how to know when suspend has actually happened (other than looking for time skew)
Jun 19 13:27:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> 	if (current_event_num == entry_event_num) { 			pr_info("suspend: pm_suspend returned with no event\n");
Jun 19 13:27:29 <mickey> interesting, where's that?
Jun 19 13:27:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> wakelocks.c
Jun 19 13:27:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> in kernel/power
Jun 19 13:27:53 <mickey> hmm, i wonder whether that's "too late"
Jun 19 13:27:58 <PaulFertser> ftn: shouldn't be a big deal to get past that particular error obviously
Jun 19 13:28:16 <mickey> what is the first function that springs to life upon resume?
Jun 19 13:28:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> what would be too late?
Jun 19 13:28:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah wakelock
Jun 19 13:28:50 <mickey> IIRC the bootloader gets started 
Jun 19 13:29:00 <mickey> then checks for a reset or a resume
Jun 19 13:29:08 <mickey> then jumps back into kernel
Jun 19 13:29:10 <mickey> but where to
Jun 19 13:29:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah it seem that I don't know how suspend/resume works
Jun 19 13:29:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> I didn't know that the bootloader was involved
Jun 19 13:29:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> are you really shure that the bootloader is involved?
Jun 19 13:30:09 <mickey> well, i don't know anything about mach-msm
Jun 19 13:30:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 13:30:23 <mickey> but from earlier experience resume typically flows through bootloader
Jun 19 13:30:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> because in arm after the linux kernel has started....
Jun 19 13:30:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> the bootloader is not involved anymore as far as I know
Jun 19 13:30:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's not like x86+BIOS
Jun 19 13:30:59 <mickey> look at u-boot
Jun 19 13:31:03 <mickey> it contains resume hooks 
Jun 19 13:31:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 13:31:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe for suspend to disk?
Jun 19 13:31:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> I hope someone will corect what I say
Jun 19 13:32:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickey, look at the suspend function in wakelocks.c
Jun 19 13:32:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> static void suspend(struct work_struct *work)
Jun 19 13:32:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> ret = pm_suspend(requested_suspend_state)
Jun 19 13:33:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> then the next instruction is:
Jun 19 13:33:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> if(debug) pr_info(time)
Jun 19 13:33:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> then maybe print current_event_num?
Jun 19 13:34:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah no that's a number
Jun 19 13:34:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> seem the number of events
Jun 19 13:34:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe it's there that we should print something
Jun 19 13:34:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> anyway /proc/interupts is good too
Jun 19 13:34:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> seem more precise
Jun 19 13:35:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> for instance
Jun 19 13:35:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> when you press power
Jun 19 13:35:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> you have a gpio_keys interupt
Jun 19 13:36:01 <mickey> yeah
Jun 19 13:36:26 <mickey> honestly, this needs to go in the kernel though
Jun 19 13:36:39 <mickey> i just want to know which of these 100 irqs woke us up
Jun 19 13:36:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> then when you press the same key
Jun 19 13:36:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> and look at /proc/wakelocks or /proc/wakelocks_last_lock
Jun 19 13:36:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> nothing appear
Jun 19 13:37:16 <mickey> that's because there's 1000s of wakelocks per second
Jun 19 13:37:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 13:37:33 <mickey> watch -n 1 -d cat /proc/wakelocks
Jun 19 13:37:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> so better /proc/interupts for now
Jun 19 13:37:36 <mickey> nice firework :)
Jun 19 13:37:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes I saw that
Jun 19 13:37:49 <mickey> what would be interesting
Jun 19 13:37:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> and I learned the watch command btw
Jun 19 13:38:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> thanks
Jun 19 13:38:03 <mickey> is to only update the proc node right after this 
Jun 19 13:38:04 <mickey> np
Jun 19 13:38:14 <mickey> ret = pm_suspend(requested_suspend_state);
Jun 19 13:38:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 13:39:01 <mickey> and cleaning it right before
Jun 19 13:39:09 <mickey> so we would know a) when suspend really happened
Jun 19 13:39:23 <mickey> and b) would not update the proc node 1000s of times per second
Jun 19 13:39:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> lol for b
Jun 19 13:40:30 <mickey> anyways, i guess i will do some experiments with that
Jun 19 13:41:27 <mickey> can i enable wakelock debugging without recompilation?
Jun 19 13:41:34 <mickey> wasn't there a sysfs node for thatß
Jun 19 13:41:35 <mickey> ?
Jun 19 13:41:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Jun 19 13:42:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> first look in wakelock.c in enum{
Jun 19 13:42:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> there is the mask
Jun 19 13:43:02 <mickey> ok
Jun 19 13:43:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> then according to the code:
Jun 19 13:43:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> 		if (debug_mask & DEBUG_WAKE_LOCK)
Jun 19 13:43:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> you just need to echo the mask to:
Jun 19 13:44:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> /sys/module/wakelock/parameters/debug_mask
Jun 19 13:47:35 <mickey> got it, than
Jun 19 13:47:36 <mickey> x
Jun 19 13:47:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> nice
Jun 19 13:53:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickey, sometime you need WAKELOCK_STATS but I think you've already got that
Jun 19 13:53:46 <mickey> yep
Jun 19 13:53:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> btw you refused that:
Jun 19 13:53:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> 			pr_info("wakeup wake lock: %s\n", lock->name);
Jun 19 13:54:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> because it wasn't good enough
Jun 19 13:54:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> (it didn't print gpio_kp)
Jun 19 13:54:58 <mickey> yep, that's too broad, i.e. it prints SMD_RPCCALL for almost everything
Jun 19 13:55:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok lol
Jun 19 13:55:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> but(kidding) everything is SMD_RPCCALL in this phone
Jun 19 13:55:43 <mickey> indeed
Jun 19 13:55:57 <mickey> with your code i can go from here
Jun 19 13:56:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> my code?
Jun 19 13:56:17 <mickey> thanks for the patch, i will change some bits from here
Jun 19 13:56:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 13:56:49 <mickey> apart from sports tomorrow morning, i have reserved the whole sunday to work on that 
Jun 19 13:56:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> wow
Jun 19 13:57:06 <mickey> so i hope by the end of tomorrow we have it
Jun 19 13:57:07 <mickey> :)
Jun 19 13:57:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> I should do sport too but,I think I should do it later
Jun 19 13:57:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> like in the week
Jun 19 13:57:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> because I bet you need me present here,and you're not here that often
Jun 19 13:57:48 <mickey> btw., |wm stands for "Weltmeisterschaft" which is german for championship and means the EURO soccer championship 
Jun 19 13:58:06 <mickey> it does _not_ stand for windows mobile ;)
Jun 19 13:58:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> lol
Jun 19 13:58:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> I thought it was your raphael or something like this
Jun 19 13:58:34 <mickey> no, i abandonded that one
Jun 19 13:58:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok,you sold it?
Jun 19 13:58:51 <mickey> better... i gave it as a gift :)
Jun 19 13:58:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> nice
Jun 19 13:59:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> I hope it's in good hands
Jun 19 13:59:09 <mickey> depends...
Jun 19 13:59:12 <mickey> no developer hands
Jun 19 13:59:15 <mickey> but girl's hands
Jun 19 13:59:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 13:59:19 <mickey> who got her phone stolen
Jun 19 13:59:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 13:59:52 <mickey> back to something different
Jun 19 13:59:59 <mickey> i'm pretty desperate for ad-hoc networking
Jun 19 14:00:09 <mickey> i'm afraid we should take a look at the TIWLAN :/
Jun 19 14:00:16 <mickey> to check whether this one has it
Jun 19 14:00:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> if someone try to racket me and ask me from my phone...I would tell him,look it works only if you know command line,audio is in bad state,camera don't work etc...
Jun 19 14:00:31 <mickey> hehe
Jun 19 14:00:32 <mickey> yeah
Jun 19 14:00:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> lol
Jun 19 14:01:00 <mickey> it would completely suck having to use TIWLAN just for that reason, of course
Jun 19 14:01:11 <mickey> but i don't feel like adding ad-hoc to the mainline driver either....
Jun 19 14:01:17 <mickey> definitely way over my capabilities
Jun 19 14:01:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> I plan to retry wl1251 soon
Jun 19 14:01:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I focussed on suspend first
Jun 19 14:01:37 <mickey> right
Jun 19 14:02:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> because I've seen patch for wifi power management that looks good
Jun 19 14:02:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> else we make bluetooth work
Jun 19 14:02:37 <mickeyl> yes, BT would be an alternative for tethering UMTS
Jun 19 14:02:54 <mickeyl> probably even better due to PM
Jun 19 14:03:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> indeed
Jun 19 14:03:05 <mickeyl> although wifi has advantages wrt. simplicitry
Jun 19 14:03:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I wonder why cable doesn't work
Jun 19 14:03:18 <mickeyl> hmm
Jun 19 14:03:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's not as good 
Jun 19 14:03:21 <mickeyl> one reason: iPad
Jun 19 14:03:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah?
Jun 19 14:03:24 <mickeyl> (sorry :)
Jun 19 14:03:40 <mickeyl> iPad can neither use USB nor Bluetooth for access
Jun 19 14:03:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 14:03:48 <mickeyl> it can use ad-hoc wifi
Jun 19 14:03:52 <mickeyl> same for iphone unfortunately
Jun 19 14:03:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> I got it
Jun 19 14:04:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> but best is the enemy of good
Jun 19 14:04:41 <mickeyl> i find it quite ironic to use an open phone to provide connectivity for a closed one ;)
Jun 19 14:04:50 <mickeyl> that's why i'd love to have that
Jun 19 14:05:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 14:05:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically I tought of that use case:
Jun 19 14:05:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> usb->laptop->ad-hoc
Jun 19 14:06:00 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: me idiot
Jun 19 14:06:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> anyway I think it's a bit like leviathan's nand
Jun 19 14:06:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> It's great to have
Jun 19 14:06:13 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: I guess I know why its not working
Jun 19 14:06:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> but it's not top priority
Jun 19 14:06:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, ok
Jun 19 14:06:40 <mickeyl> agreed. certainly not top priority.
Jun 19 14:07:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> the community expect something that works,not something that does only tethering trough wifi/bt
Jun 19 14:07:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> and some people like Kensan alain2210 etc... have bought this phone
Jun 19 14:08:41 <mickeyl> true true
Jun 19 14:09:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> 1)suspend
Jun 19 14:09:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> 2)audio if Thringol is here
Jun 19 14:09:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> 3)wifi
Jun 19 14:10:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> GPS
Jun 19 14:10:22 <mickeyl> BT
Jun 19 14:10:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> indeed
Jun 19 14:10:25 <mickeyl> Compass/Accel
Jun 19 14:10:26 <mickeyl> Camera
Jun 19 14:10:30 <mickeyl> in that oder
Jun 19 14:10:31 <mickeyl> order
Jun 19 14:10:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> where do we put keyboard keys and rotaate
Jun 19 14:10:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Jun 19 14:11:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> there is also some minor oe support for xorg to push
Jun 19 14:11:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> and a better frameworkd.conf
Jun 19 14:11:11 <misc> thringol ?
Jun 19 14:11:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> for SHR
Jun 19 14:11:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, Thingol
Jun 19 14:11:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> he's someone in #alsa
Jun 19 14:11:53 <misc> ( it was me, not mickeyl )
Jun 19 14:12:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> oops bad tab
Jun 19 14:12:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> misc, basically I explained him the bug,and he told me how to fix the audio,so now it doesn't block anymore
Jun 19 14:12:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> but there are still some buffer underrun
Jun 19 14:14:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> Thingol is hard to catch so as soon as I catch him I do alsa
Jun 19 14:14:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> else I do wifi
Jun 19 14:15:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> the audio issue is that one:
Jun 19 14:15:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> audpp: DMA missed obj=20
Jun 19 14:25:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, so what do you do now? and what should I do?
Jun 19 14:27:06 <mickeyl> i'll work on your wakelocks patch tomorrow
Jun 19 14:27:18 <mickeyl> proc patch, that is
Jun 19 14:27:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 14:27:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> so you'll do a better kernel patch?
Jun 19 14:27:35 <mickeyl> yep
Jun 19 14:27:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> nice
Jun 19 14:28:00 <mickeyl> you could concentrate on gps or wifi, whatever is more important to you
Jun 19 14:28:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 14:28:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan is inclined towards GPS
Jun 19 14:28:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> so I'll do wifi
Jun 19 14:28:51 <mickeyl> ok, cool
Jun 19 14:30:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll do it this afternoon/night
Jun 19 14:36:47 <JaMa> mrmoku: last rebuilt was last weekend so I think still yes
Jun 19 14:37:10 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: atm I'm try'n to get upstream booting
Jun 19 14:37:11 <leviathan> ...
Jun 19 14:37:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 14:37:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> did fso2-demo-image work
Jun 19 14:38:04 <leviathan> did not manage to build it
Jun 19 14:38:06 <leviathan> yet
Jun 19 14:38:14 <leviathan> everything seems broken in this direction
Jun 19 14:38:23 <leviathan> I also found out, why its not loading a console
Jun 19 14:38:25 <leviathan> it should
Jun 19 14:38:29 <leviathan> but
Jun 19 14:38:41 <leviathan> the kernel is lacking wakelock and gpio
Jun 19 14:38:44 <leviathan> so it dies
Jun 19 14:43:12 <mrmoku> JaMa: it fails in do_install
Jun 19 14:45:07 <JaMa> show me the log if I recognize it :)
Jun 19 14:46:04 <mrmoku> JaMa: moment... installing nopaste :)
Jun 19 14:47:44 <mrmoku> JaMa: http://pastie.org/1011430
Jun 19 14:49:12 <JaMa> mrmoku: strange, I don't remember it, have you tried it with -j 1?
Jun 19 14:49:36 <JaMa> alias PARALLEL_MAKE="-j1" in local.conf?
Jun 19 14:49:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, for gpio they may have some patches
Jun 19 14:50:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, btw why mainline?
Jun 19 14:50:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, isnt't there a msm tree somwhere on kernel.org ?
Jun 19 14:50:43 <mrmoku> JaMa: trying now
Jun 19 14:52:14 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: uhmm
Jun 19 14:53:28 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwalker/linux-msm.git;a=blob;f=Makefile;h=9425d1de54c76a90db00d0680e7b65fc1d202997;hb=1836d95928a0f41ada0cbb2a6c4e46b027db9491
Jun 19 14:53:31 <leviathan> as you can see
Jun 19 14:53:33 <leviathan> its outdated
Jun 19 14:53:35 <leviathan> -.-
Jun 19 14:53:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Jun 19 14:53:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 14:55:15 <leviathan> we should look where it breaks
Jun 19 14:55:26 <leviathan> and try to initialize basic graphics functionality
Jun 19 14:55:27 <leviathan> means
Jun 19 14:55:30 <mrmoku> JaMa: heh, yes builds without -j 2
Jun 19 14:55:32 <leviathan> command line
Jun 19 14:55:35 <mrmoku> JaMa: should be marked then...
Jun 19 14:55:45 <leviathan> then we could port our drivers
Jun 19 14:55:58 <leviathan> that would bring the benefit, that we could keep up to date
Jun 19 14:56:00 <leviathan> with the API
Jun 19 15:06:17 <morphis> heyho
Jun 19 15:06:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi
Jun 19 15:06:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> how's telephony on palm pre?
Jun 19 15:08:43 <JaMa> mrmoku: yup.. I probably didn't see it even with -j3 because I had also angstrom build running (so something like -j6 :))
Jun 19 15:09:04 <mrmoku> :P
Jun 19 15:10:13 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: if we make framebuffer console in upstream running together I will spend you a beer
Jun 19 15:10:19 <leviathan> if I do it alone
Jun 19 15:10:22 <leviathan> not ;-)
Jun 19 15:10:53 <leviathan> Oh, right
Jun 19 15:10:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, I don't like the taste of beers unfortunately....
Jun 19 15:10:59 <leviathan> sry, you do not like beer
Jun 19 15:11:06 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 15:11:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> np
Jun 19 15:11:25 <leviathan> its the same about me with thema woman
Jun 19 15:11:35 <leviathan> so, I'm sensitive about that
Jun 19 15:11:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Jun 19 15:11:39 <leviathan> yeah
Jun 19 15:11:54 <leviathan> if someone beliefe
Jun 19 15:12:02 <leviathan> everyone else likes what he likes
Jun 19 15:12:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> indeed
Jun 19 15:12:09 <leviathan> and is interested in things he is interested
Jun 19 15:12:15 <leviathan> like the thema I mentioned
Jun 19 15:12:18 <leviathan> or football
Jun 19 15:12:19 <leviathan> or so
Jun 19 15:12:33 <leviathan> it can be ennoying to live under a lot of individua
Jun 19 15:12:48 <leviathan> which think
Jun 19 15:12:57 <leviathan> everyone must be interested in such themata
Jun 19 15:13:05 <leviathan> so, I'm sensitive about that
Jun 19 15:13:19 <leviathan> as long as you do not scream around, when I wanna smoke and drink a beer
Jun 19 15:13:24 <leviathan> everything is good
Jun 19 15:13:26 <leviathan> :)
Jun 19 15:13:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 15:14:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> I see it like this:
Jun 19 15:14:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> we make the basics work
Jun 19 15:14:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> then we try to push upstream some interesting parts
Jun 19 15:17:50 <leviathan> I found out
Jun 19 15:17:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 15:17:59 <leviathan> that our work is nothing worth for upstream
Jun 19 15:18:08 <leviathan> a) they have divergent development atm
Jun 19 15:18:18 <leviathan> b) our drivers do not even basically run
Jun 19 15:18:23 <leviathan> without great modifications
Jun 19 15:18:28 <leviathan> in upstream
Jun 19 15:18:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> by upstream I meant push our fixes
Jun 19 15:18:43 <leviathan> ahh
Jun 19 15:18:44 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 15:19:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> for instance the alsa fix
Jun 19 15:19:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> etc...
Jun 19 15:19:11 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 15:19:32 <leviathan> I'm try'n already the whole day to get msmfb working in torvalds branch
Jun 19 15:19:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 15:19:52 <leviathan> I could use your help very well there
Jun 19 15:19:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've some questions:
Jun 19 15:19:59 <leviathan> perhaps together it would go better
Jun 19 15:20:02 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: yes?
Jun 19 15:20:07 <leviathan> I'm an alien
Jun 19 15:20:07 <leviathan> xD
Jun 19 15:20:11 <leviathan> other questions?
Jun 19 15:20:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> *do you have the /etc/network/interfaces fix
Jun 19 15:20:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> *does blindly typing command work
Jun 19 15:20:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Jun 19 15:20:46 <leviathan> yes
Jun 19 15:20:56 <leviathan> no
Jun 19 15:20:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 15:21:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> so it doesn't even boot
Jun 19 15:21:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> try without fb
Jun 19 15:21:12 <leviathan> huu?
Jun 19 15:21:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> normally without fb you should be able to blindly type commands
Jun 19 15:22:25 <leviathan> on which state the usb gadget serial port should appear?
Jun 19 15:22:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> state?
Jun 19 15:22:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> I think down
Jun 19 15:22:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I've really no clue
Jun 19 15:23:05 <leviathan> im ment boot stage
Jun 19 15:23:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah usb gadget serial
Jun 19 15:23:28 <GNUtoo|laptop> hmmm
Jun 19 15:23:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> it get initialized late
Jun 19 15:23:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> if that was the question
Jun 19 15:23:45 <leviathan> yes
Jun 19 15:23:47 <leviathan> it was
Jun 19 15:23:49 <leviathan> merda
Jun 19 15:23:50 <leviathan> then
Jun 19 15:23:56 <leviathan> second idea
Jun 19 15:24:08 <leviathan> they documented serial port already running...
Jun 19 15:24:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> then you need to order sparkfun's breakout module for htc
Jun 19 15:24:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> s/htc/htc-usb/
Jun 19 15:24:42 <apt> GNUtoo|laptop meant: then you need to order sparkfun's breakout module for htc-usb
Jun 19 15:25:02 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 15:25:04 <leviathan> thx apt
Jun 19 15:25:06 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 15:25:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> and don't forget it's 2.8v not 3.3
Jun 19 15:25:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> I tried locally with what I had
Jun 19 15:25:21 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 15:25:29 <leviathan> does it work?
Jun 19 15:25:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> with an htc headset => faillure
Jun 19 15:25:47 <leviathan> ohh
Jun 19 15:25:48 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 15:26:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> anyway the headset was a bit broken
Jun 19 15:26:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> but still....
Jun 19 15:26:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> only a bit
Jun 19 15:26:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> and they are not cheap
Jun 19 15:28:22 <leviathan> yes
Jun 19 15:28:24 <leviathan> I know
Jun 19 15:28:33 <leviathan> recently bought one
Jun 19 15:28:34 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 15:29:12 <leviathan> I'll get my iron u-cores on monday btw. so my quantum mechanics experiment will take place soon (right: quantum mechanics experiment ;-) )
Jun 19 15:29:24 <leviathan> but back to topic
Jun 19 15:29:35 <leviathan> I'm back shortly, just smoking a pipe
Jun 19 15:29:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> |
Jun 19 15:29:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> somthing like that?
Jun 19 15:30:12 <leviathan> cat tabaco | kmout
Jun 19 15:30:15 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 15:39:09 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: hmm
Jun 19 15:39:23 <leviathan> what we would need is a htc debug board
Jun 19 15:39:36 <leviathan> but thats even harder to steel then datasheets
Jun 19 15:39:39 <leviathan> because its hardware
Jun 19 15:39:40 <leviathan> xD
Jun 19 15:41:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, serial is enough
Jun 19 15:41:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> with serial you get :
Jun 19 15:41:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> *printk from the bootloader
Jun 19 15:41:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> *bootloader access
Jun 19 15:41:24 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 15:41:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> *KGDB!!!
Jun 19 15:41:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> at very early state
Jun 19 15:41:37 <leviathan> now question
Jun 19 15:41:45 <leviathan> do we have a serial connector
Jun 19 15:41:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Jun 19 15:41:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> look at that
Jun 19 15:42:15 <leviathan> what?
Jun 19 15:42:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9167
Jun 19 15:42:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> that gives you serial
Jun 19 15:42:36 <leviathan> do you have such a device?
Jun 19 15:42:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> no
Jun 19 15:42:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> http://www.instructables.com/id/Android-G1-Serial-Cable/
Jun 19 15:42:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> I need to order it
Jun 19 15:43:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> it will be needed for upstream work
Jun 19 15:43:24 <leviathan> dito
Jun 19 15:43:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've waited because I want to pay shipping + customs only once
Jun 19 15:43:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> because threre are some interesting stuff such as:
Jun 19 15:44:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> *arduinos,pic/avr programmers
Jun 19 15:44:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> *radios
Jun 19 15:44:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> etc...
Jun 19 15:44:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> but the whole is not cheap
Jun 19 15:44:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> so I took my time and reflected
Jun 19 15:44:26 <leviathan> hmm, ok
Jun 19 15:44:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> specially because I didn't know how much I had to pay my laptop
Jun 19 15:44:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> because my laptop broke
Jun 19 15:44:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> remember
Jun 19 15:44:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> I needed a replacement
Jun 19 15:44:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> and in italy the mode I wanted wasn't available anymore
Jun 19 15:45:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> and they had one that costed a lot more
Jun 19 15:45:18 <leviathan> i see
Jun 19 15:45:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> so if I bought theses radio+pic+programmers+htc connector+customs+shipping
Jun 19 15:45:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> it would have been roughly 100E
Jun 19 15:45:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> or more
Jun 19 15:46:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically I wanted to do something to monitor the fridge temperature remotely
Jun 19 15:50:01 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 15:50:03 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 15:52:37 <leviathan> hmm, ok, i'm try'n to make backlight build again
Jun 19 15:52:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 15:52:54 <leviathan> with fewest possible changes to mainline
Jun 19 15:53:02 <leviathan> then you can try out the patches onto vanilla too
Jun 19 15:53:08 <leviathan> and tell me, what you are seeing
Jun 19 15:53:15 <leviathan> or what my code is lacking of
Jun 19 15:53:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 15:56:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, ok I would also need a .config
Jun 19 15:56:20 <leviathan> hmm, ok
Jun 19 15:56:31 <leviathan> I just took the known to work one
Jun 19 15:56:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 15:56:38 <leviathan> from my gnulinux-konform
Jun 19 15:56:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> what's that?
Jun 19 15:56:46 <leviathan> and did some slight modification
Jun 19 15:56:49 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 15:56:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> konform?
Jun 19 15:57:00 <leviathan> http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commits/msm-gnuconform
Jun 19 15:57:02 <leviathan> conform
Jun 19 15:57:03 <leviathan> sry
Jun 19 15:57:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok it sounded funny
Jun 19 15:57:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> like german
Jun 19 15:57:14 <leviathan> i wrote german
Jun 19 15:57:15 <leviathan> sry
Jun 19 15:57:18 <leviathan> ^_^"
Jun 19 15:57:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> do upstream have a defconfig?
Jun 19 15:57:37 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 15:57:40 <leviathan> lets see
Jun 19 15:57:54 <leviathan> yes
Jun 19 15:57:58 <leviathan> arch/arm/configs/msm_defconfig
Jun 19 15:58:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok I'll use that
Jun 19 15:58:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> then
Jun 19 15:58:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> no dream or trout?
Jun 19 15:58:33 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 15:58:39 <leviathan> msm defaults to that
Jun 19 15:58:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 15:58:57 <leviathan> oops
Jun 19 15:59:01 <leviathan> defaults to halibut
Jun 19 15:59:02 <leviathan> sry
Jun 19 15:59:04 <leviathan> my fault
Jun 19 15:59:07 <leviathan> read wrong
Jun 19 15:59:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 15:59:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll change that
Jun 19 15:59:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I've compiler issues
Jun 19 15:59:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll try with my desktop
Jun 19 16:00:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> laptop does git bisect on oe
Jun 19 16:00:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> rebuilding from scratch each time
Jun 19 16:01:12 <leviathan> kk
Jun 19 16:01:39 <leviathan> i'm adding backlights atm
Jun 19 16:01:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> btw I'll try wifi etc...just after
Jun 19 16:01:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> on old kernel
Jun 19 16:02:25 <leviathan> kk
Jun 19 16:02:45 <leviathan> I'm making it buildable
Jun 19 16:02:49 <leviathan> and will upload the patchset
Jun 19 16:02:54 <leviathan> to the ftp repo
Jun 19 16:03:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 16:03:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, btw I hope you didn't forget to remove qualcomm docs from the ftp
Jun 19 16:04:14 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r471c3b9c0831 10/libmsmcomm/src/ (internal.h response_types.c): libmsmcomm: rework descriptor selection for incomming messages
Jun 19 16:04:14 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rf029e181dbcf 10/msmcommd/src/llc.c: msmcommd: DEBUG -> DEBUG_MSG renaming
Jun 19 16:04:15 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r1a6417dd77dc 10/libmsmcomm/vapi/msmcomm-1.0.vapi: libmsmcomm: vapi: change return type of Msmcomm.Message.index to uint32
Jun 19 16:04:17 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rf6fac40e5c05 10/libmsmcomm/ (5 files in 2 dirs): libmsmcomm: implement message type property for message object
Jun 19 16:04:18 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * re7b23394b7b9 10/msmcommd/src/main.c: msmcommd: search for config file at different places
Jun 19 16:04:20 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r79b41559a415 10/scripts/msg-doc-to-dot.py: Merge branch 'master' of git.freesmartphone.org:msmcomm
Jun 19 16:04:51 <leviathan> no, I didn't
Jun 19 16:05:00 <leviathan> its removed
Jun 19 16:05:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 16:05:05 <leviathan> already wrote an email
Jun 19 16:05:10 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 16:10:49 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: http://ftp.o2s.ch/upstream_patchset1/
Jun 19 16:11:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 16:11:25 <leviathan> thats backlight
Jun 19 16:11:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> that contain the patches you sent me by mail?
Jun 19 16:11:30 <leviathan> but somehow it doesnt load
Jun 19 16:11:35 <leviathan> modified
Jun 19 16:11:43 <leviathan> I rewrote them a lot cleaner
Jun 19 16:11:45 <leviathan> this time
Jun 19 16:11:49 <leviathan> thats just backlight
Jun 19 16:12:25 <leviathan> we have graphics already included
Jun 19 16:12:27 <leviathan> but somehow
Jun 19 16:12:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll try
Jun 19 16:12:41 <leviathan> nothing get initialized
Jun 19 16:14:02 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: thx
Jun 19 16:22:48 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: 03ospite 07cornucopia * r3dc9d7ebde32 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atcommands.vala: 
Jun 19 16:22:48 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: add query() method to atcommands.vala::PlusCLCC
Jun 19 16:22:48 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Some modems reply to +CLCC? instead of +CLCC
Jun 19 16:22:48 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Antonio Ospite <ospite@studenti.unina.it>
Jun 19 16:22:48 <CIA-60> freesmartphone.org: Acked-by: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mlauer@vanille-media.de>
Jun 19 16:25:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, does mainline have msm_sd
Jun 19 16:25:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Jun 19 16:26:24 <leviathan> it does sd card support
Jun 19 16:26:27 <leviathan> but no NAND
Jun 19 16:26:35 <leviathan> so you even need to boot from sd card
Jun 19 16:26:42 <leviathan> but I do not know, if sd card works
Jun 19 16:26:46 <leviathan> because as I said
Jun 19 16:26:50 <leviathan> no messages
Jun 19 16:26:51 <leviathan> :-)
Jun 19 16:26:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 16:26:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll try something
Jun 19 16:27:01 <leviathan> k
Jun 19 16:27:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> how do you know that sdcard works?
Jun 19 16:27:31 <leviathan> I do not
Jun 19 16:27:36 <leviathan> but the driver is there
Jun 19 16:27:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 16:27:47 <leviathan> and somehow they must have prooven, that serial works
Jun 19 16:27:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll hook init to touch a file
Jun 19 16:27:49 <leviathan> and its bootable
Jun 19 16:27:58 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 16:33:24 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: did it work out?
Jun 19 16:33:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'm booting right now
Jun 19 16:33:48 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 16:33:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> I tested what I did on .32
Jun 19 16:33:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> before
Jun 19 16:34:02 <leviathan> and?
Jun 19 16:34:05 <leviathan> did it touch?
Jun 19 16:34:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> on 32 yes
Jun 19 16:34:14 <leviathan> and now?
Jun 19 16:34:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> not shure
Jun 19 16:34:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll wait
Jun 19 16:34:22 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 16:34:40 <leviathan> if it does the touch
Jun 19 16:34:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, maybe you could document on the wiki what is upstream
Jun 19 16:34:53 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 16:34:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> if it does touch it means that it booted
Jun 19 16:34:59 <leviathan> yes
Jun 19 16:35:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> and I've not used touch btw
Jun 19 16:35:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've used dmesg + uname -a
Jun 19 16:35:18 <leviathan> oh, I wanted to do this right now
Jun 19 16:35:24 <leviathan> so,  if you get output
Jun 19 16:35:28 <leviathan> please pastebin it to me
Jun 19 16:35:32 <leviathan> so that I can analyse
Jun 19 16:35:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jun 19 16:36:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> didn't work
Jun 19 16:36:09 <leviathan> wtf?
Jun 19 16:36:11 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 16:36:12 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 16:36:22 <leviathan> same config as for other kernel?
Jun 19 16:36:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> no
Jun 19 16:36:35 <leviathan> perhaps fs issue :-)
Jun 19 16:36:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> defconfig of msm
Jun 19 16:36:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah 
Jun 19 16:36:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe
Jun 19 16:36:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> but it should have rebooted
Jun 19 16:36:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> checking
Jun 19 16:38:23 <leviathan> ok
Jun 19 16:41:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> sd support was not in kernel
Jun 19 16:42:10 <leviathan> oh, ok
Jun 19 16:42:12 <leviathan> now?
Jun 19 16:42:27 <leviathan> does it now write something?
Jun 19 16:43:02 <leviathan> I would suggest to use the known-to-work config
Jun 19 16:43:11 <leviathan> then you will certainly have less trubble
Jun 19 16:44:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah what is the known to work
Jun 19 16:44:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> mine?
Jun 19 16:44:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> the one in oe?
Jun 19 16:44:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll use that
Jun 19 16:45:24 <leviathan> or mine :-)
Jun 19 16:46:52 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: http://ftp.o2s.ch/config
Jun 19 16:46:57 <leviathan> this one should work
Jun 19 16:47:05 <leviathan> just select the rootfs type
Jun 19 16:47:11 <leviathan> you are using on you sd
Jun 19 16:47:13 <leviathan> and remember
Jun 19 16:47:21 <leviathan> yaffs2 is not in the official kernel anymore
Jun 19 16:47:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> didn't work
Jun 19 16:47:51 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 16:48:06 <leviathan> perhaps it cant initialize anything
Jun 19 16:48:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll try wifi and such and continue later
Jun 19 16:48:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> without serial I'm blind
Jun 19 16:48:19 <leviathan> a damn serial cable would be good now -.-
Jun 19 16:55:40 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: hey, i want to talk about CLCC again :) My log shows ``Wrote '+CLCC'. Waiting for answer...'' only once. There's no timeout notification or anything like that. Just ``Synchronizing call status'' every second _without_ sending anything again. This certainly doesn't look right to me.
Jun 19 16:55:48 <PaulFertser> mickeyl: are you still sure that's a calypso's quirk?
Jun 19 17:02:17 <PaulFertser> If only i could easily reproduce it :/
Jun 19 17:35:25 <mrmoku> JaMa: alsa-utils fails due to missing tinfo... is that one known?
Jun 19 17:35:35 <JaMa> mrmoku: yes
Jun 19 17:35:46 <mrmoku> JaMa: missing dep for something
Jun 19 17:35:51 <JaMa> mrmoku: it's because it calls ncurses-config from your host
Jun 19 17:36:04 <mrmoku> ohh... ouch
Jun 19 17:36:10 <JaMa> mrmoku: happens on some newer fedora
Jun 19 17:36:20 * mrmoku has brand new fedora :)
Jun 19 17:36:39 <JaMa> mrmoku: it calls it on everyhost, but other systems return only -lcurses (available in OE)
Jun 19 17:37:06 <mrmoku> hmm
Jun 19 17:37:08 <JaMa> mrmoku: I asked for ncurses-native bump on OE-devel
Jun 19 17:37:42 <JaMa> http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg06852.html
Jun 19 17:38:12 <mrmoku> JaMa: and that has a tinfo then?
Jun 19 17:38:40 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: here? can you do some additional debugging when you face that issue again? Namely using dbus debug command to send +CLCC manually?
Jun 19 17:39:16 <JaMa> mrmoku: tinfo as well as own ncurses*config (which will be called instead of system one)
Jun 19 17:39:36 <JaMa> mrmoku: you can try the recipe enrico sent
Jun 19 17:40:17 <JaMa> mrmoku: I didn't try it, because gentoo version doesn't return -ltinfo ..
Jun 19 17:40:36 <mrmoku> JaMa: ok, will try. thanks
Jun 19 17:40:41 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: I think so. Can you gimme a command to execute?
Jun 19 17:41:11 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand AT+CLCC main
Jun 19 17:41:19 <JaMa> mrmoku: yw
Jun 19 17:43:23 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: hm, let me do some more testing, i'll probably correct the command
Jun 19 17:47:50 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: so the corrected test instructions: when you get the device in the weird state, do mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand "+CLCC" main
Jun 19 17:47:54 <PaulFertser> It should return ("")
Jun 19 17:48:27 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: then call from the landline and do the command again and again.
Jun 19 17:48:59 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: if you ever get a correct +CLCC response, it means the problem is in fsogsmd
Jun 19 17:49:03 <PaulFertser> Rather than in firmware
Jun 19 17:49:34 <PaulFertser> I can't seem to reproduce this issue now by hammering with constant calling/hanging up
Jun 19 17:49:54 <PaulFertser> Where are those damn bugs when you need them?!
Jun 19 17:50:40 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: It happen on suspend/resume cycle.
Jun 19 17:51:12 <Q-Master> Today I've got it after 2 incoming smses and autosuspend after them
Jun 19 17:51:27 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: no, i'm sure my bug is not suspend-related
Jun 19 17:51:55 <Q-Master> It is
Jun 19 17:51:57 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: and the messages still come through, just calls can't
Jun 19 17:52:02 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: for me.
Jun 19 17:52:12 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: i'm describing the issue i face
Jun 19 17:52:34 <PaulFertser> There's some other bug related to messages though.
Jun 19 17:53:11 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/566
Jun 19 17:55:06 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: but my CLCC bug appears only after some phone conversation is ended, after that i can receive messages, suspend/resume, etc etc, and see it only later, when i try to call somebody (or somebody tells me he tries without me answering).
Jun 19 17:55:06 <Q-Master> PaulFertser: there is a suspend/resume cycle in your log just before the bug
Jun 19 17:56:05 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/561 no suspend/resume
Jun 19 17:56:42 <PaulFertser> Q-Master: i think those issues are unrelated
Jun 19 17:57:27 <Q-Master> seems that 561 is related to suspend/resume or just happens faster if suspended.
Jun 19 17:57:53 <PaulFertser> Probably, though i'd not bet on it.
Jun 19 18:04:24 * PaulFertser wished there were more FSO devs...
Jun 19 18:30:59 <[Rui]> JaMa: hi, I've just commit json-c dependency in elmdentica
Jun 19 18:35:51 <JaMa> [Rui]: ok, I'll keep it in mind (and my local repo) for next EFL bump
Jun 19 18:36:16 <[Rui]> JaMa: also just sent an email, it's from r49761 onwards
Jun 19 18:40:00 <JaMa> [Rui]: can I drop libxml dependency? or is it still used somewhere else in elmdentica?
Jun 19 18:40:13 <[Rui]> JaMa: safe to drop
Jun 19 18:40:50 <JaMa> ah read e-mail, clear now, thanks
Jun 19 18:43:33 <[Rui]> JaMa: only used both temporarily while converting...
Jun 19 18:44:37 <[Rui]> oh shit, gotta get my build env updated... elmdentica: error while loading shared libraries: libecore_evas-ver-svn-06.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Jun 19 18:44:39 <[Rui]> :)
Jun 19 18:44:48 <JaMa> ok, building here http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/11b42007e4eae22c82234d5440fb566d8138da62
Jun 19 18:45:04 <[Rui]> ah...
Jun 19 18:45:38 <JaMa> yeah after latest efl bump ther is ver-pre-svn again
Jun 19 18:45:45 <[Rui]> :)
Jun 19 18:45:57 <[Rui]> at least #e's about to get 1.0 ;)
Jun 19 18:46:02 <[Rui]> e17
Jun 19 18:46:13 <JaMa> is it? really? :)
Jun 19 18:46:57 <mrmoku> JaMa: enricos recipe worked out :)
Jun 19 18:47:13 <JaMa> I was hoping for that, but then new snapshots got released and patch flow was restored :)
Jun 19 18:47:38 <JaMa> mrmoku: good, report to him, maybe he will finish cleanup and push it then..
Jun 19 18:48:17 <[Rui]> JaMa: well, yeah...  "Help with E development -- looking forward a release candidate" :)
Jun 19 18:49:01 <[Rui]> I'm hopeful! :) «It is hard to give people a deadline date, but we're trying to make it happen this year»
Jun 19 18:51:56 <[Rui]> well, I'll just let it do a bb shr-lite-image while I'm out...
Jun 19 18:52:02 <[Rui]> hopefully it'll build all that's needed
Jun 19 19:02:29 * JaMa just wathing Bond, how he gets exact gps location of sms sender from stolen sim card :)
Jun 19 19:03:30 <[Rui]> JaMa: you forgot to turn suspension of dis-belief on, right?
Jun 19 19:04:28 <JaMa> it's better movie without dis-belief suspended
Jun 19 19:07:51 <Wonka> well... from what I gather out of american criminal series, american cell phones _need_ to have network operator accessible gps receivers...
Jun 19 19:08:23 <Wonka> so that LEOs can locate the phone (and therefore it's user)
Jun 19 19:13:21 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: this issue is so enoy'n.... why it doesnt want to boot??
Jun 19 19:13:31 <[Rui]> bbl
Jun 19 19:15:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, we can't know
Jun 19 19:15:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> hmmm
Jun 19 19:15:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, can the kernel load an image(jpeg etc...)
Jun 19 19:17:12 <leviathan> hmm
Jun 19 19:17:23 <leviathan> we would need to implement that first...
Jun 19 19:17:26 <leviathan> but how?
Jun 19 19:17:48 <leviathan> perhaps an android initrd?
Jun 19 19:18:35 <leviathan> yeah
Jun 19 19:18:39 <leviathan> I know something
Jun 19 19:18:45 <leviathan> recovery image
Jun 19 19:18:52 <leviathan> there is some
Jun 19 19:18:56 <leviathan> with only an initrd
Jun 19 19:19:55 <mrmoku> JaMa: duh... next one :/ mtd-utils fails with /home/mok/shrbuild/build/tmp/cross/armv4t/lib/gcc/arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/4.4.4/../../../../arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lubi
Jun 19 19:21:52 <JaMa> mrmoku: hmm no idea about this one, maybe -j1 again?
Jun 19 19:22:08 <mrmoku> JaMa: I'm still on -j1... so this time no :P
Jun 19 19:22:10 <JaMa> -lubi is IIRC built by mtd-utils
Jun 19 19:22:18 <JaMa> ah :/
Jun 19 19:26:57 <leviathan> so
Jun 19 19:27:03 <leviathan> I'm try'n to get some results
Jun 19 19:27:05 <leviathan> ...
Jun 19 20:56:04 <ThibG> hm, what is needed for jbt6k74 to load? I mean, I've even put a printk in jbt_probe, it isn't displayed
Jun 19 21:04:14 <larsc> its probed by the spi core
Jun 19 21:05:13 <ThibG> hm, yes, that's what I understand, but I have SPI enabled as well... Do jbt needs to be built-in?
Jun 19 21:05:51 <larsc> nope
Jun 19 21:06:17 <ThibG> hm, odd
Jun 19 21:07:10 <ThibG> and jbt is needed to have anything else than a white screen, right?
Jun 19 21:08:15 <larsc> if you have a whitescreen it's already enabled
Jun 19 21:08:40 <ThibG> no, u-boot did that for me
Jun 19 21:10:14 <larsc> right
Jun 19 21:10:26 <larsc> do you have the driver for the spi host
Jun 19 21:10:26 <larsc> ?
Jun 19 21:10:58 <ThibG> it's upstream, isn't it?
Jun 19 21:11:04 <larsc> yes
Jun 19 21:11:30 <ThibG> CONFIG_SPI_S3C24XX?
Jun 19 21:11:41 <larsc> either that or CONFIG_SPI_GPIO
Jun 19 21:12:01 <ThibG> both are built-in
Jun 19 21:12:30 <larsc> ok
Jun 19 21:19:53 <ThibG> will try with jbt built-in, just in case... but later
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