**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 22 02:59:56 2010 Jun 22 09:00:18 DocScrutinizer51: I'm after freedom. And the possibility to live something which is worth beeing called live. Not only for me, but also for others, who feel like me, and want to live the same way. A place where we can be our self witouth beeing assultet by not understanding beeings, which can never understand, because they are so different :-) Jun 22 09:01:09 I'm just driven by the most basic instinct, the instinct to survive, but on a way that makes worth surviving Jun 22 09:01:15 so Jun 22 09:01:18 now Jun 22 09:01:22 shower, working Jun 22 09:01:23 =) Jun 22 09:18:52 JaMa: happy birthday :D Jun 22 09:19:04 JaMa: (if you have correct date filled on facebook ;)) Jun 22 09:26:33 hehe... looks like... at least his website has the same date on it Jun 22 09:26:40 JaMa: happy birthday :) Jun 22 09:31:56 hehe, thanks guys :) Jun 22 09:32:50 * JaMa got really big chocolate from linux comunity from Hradek (small town near Pilsen) :) Jun 22 09:41:16 JaMa: All the best!! Jun 22 09:46:08 mickey|office, hi Jun 22 09:46:45 JaMa, happy birthday Jun 22 09:46:55 morning gnu Jun 22 09:46:57 too Jun 22 09:47:13 ok I'll test again the new version Jun 22 09:47:35 ok Jun 22 09:47:44 the interesting case is the no-kernel-wakelocks case, btw ;) Jun 22 09:48:25 mickey|office, should we remove wakelocks? Jun 22 09:48:31 kernel ones? Jun 22 09:48:31 ah ok Jun 22 09:48:32 we can't Jun 22 09:48:41 I misundersood Jun 22 09:48:46 no kenrel wakelocks meant Jun 22 09:48:53 no usb plugged in Jun 22 09:49:06 yep Jun 22 09:49:27 I can't do apm -s remotely then Jun 22 09:49:37 I'll wait for suspend then Jun 22 09:52:04 mickey|office, I've screen corruption? can I remove the killing of the refresh thread? Jun 22 09:52:36 :) Jun 22 09:57:53 leviathan, hi Jun 22 10:03:23 GNUtoo: hi Jun 22 10:03:29 Need to go soon Jun 22 10:03:39 meeting for my company Jun 22 10:03:45 ok Jun 22 10:03:45 samsung is also on the todo Jun 22 10:03:50 but first we need a list Jun 22 10:03:54 ok Jun 22 10:03:59 then I will contact the partners Jun 22 10:04:24 could you perhaps look for a collection of free chips? Jun 22 10:04:29 leviathan, the fsf is discussing about free telephony internally Jun 22 10:04:46 then we could try to kick an OE smartphone onto the market Jun 22 10:04:51 about samsung Jun 22 10:04:54 its the best way Jun 22 10:05:02 maybe we could have their support for having a bit of pubilicity Jun 22 10:05:04 giving the samsung engineers just a direction Jun 22 10:05:07 ok Jun 22 10:05:22 is samsung power management ok? Jun 22 10:05:25 they have already done some android smartphones Jun 22 10:05:35 a collegue of mine has one Jun 22 10:05:37 wait a sec Jun 22 10:05:38 since a long time Jun 22 10:05:40 which samsung? Jun 22 10:05:45 dunno Jun 22 10:05:45 because there is samsung phones Jun 22 10:05:46 mom Jun 22 10:05:50 and samsung chips Jun 22 10:06:12 officially it's the same company Jun 22 10:06:35 but I heared that they are very different,not shure if I remember well Jun 22 10:07:02 hmm Jun 22 10:07:09 leviathan, I'm not an hardware engineer for the chips Jun 22 10:07:22 what we need is not a new chip design Jun 22 10:07:33 but a list of already known to be supported chips Jun 22 10:07:40 so that we can collect a wishlist Jun 22 10:07:43 leviathan, you should ask help on openmoko-cdevel,or on qi-hardware mailing list if there is one Jun 22 10:07:43 a realistic one Jun 22 10:07:47 ok Jun 22 10:07:59 GNUtoo: which channel am I atm? ;-) Jun 22 10:08:07 ah, ok Jun 22 10:08:08 ML Jun 22 10:08:09 :-) Jun 22 10:08:10 indeed Jun 22 10:08:18 mailing list is better for such things Jun 22 10:08:21 ok Jun 22 10:08:36 hardware people are not in irc 24h/24 Jun 22 10:10:50 sure Jun 22 10:10:57 btw, my cable seems to take longer Jun 22 10:11:00 ... -.- **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 22 10:15:29 2010 Jun 22 10:16:12 mickey|office, I still have the following issue at resume(when pressing power key) : touch part of the screen doesn't work anymore Jun 22 10:18:27 can't see how that should be related Jun 22 10:18:47 fsousaged is not grabbing any input nodes Jun 22 10:19:36 ? Jun 22 10:19:43 it also doesn't dim anymore Jun 22 10:19:51 I'll inspect the logs Jun 22 10:19:58 and connect trough usb Jun 22 10:20:46 ah when connecting to usb it continues to dim Jun 22 10:20:57 maybe power button wakes it up Jun 22 10:21:03 but fso doesn't know about it Jun 22 10:21:10 or a part of fso Jun 22 10:21:45 2010-06-22T10:11:21.098175Z [INFO] UsageController <5 R>: >>>>>>> KERNEL SUSPEND Jun 22 10:21:51 not resuming Jun 22 10:22:19 and I still can't use the touchscreen Jun 22 10:24:35 I need this damn cable... Jun 22 10:29:56 mickey|office, basically if you do echo mem > /sys/power/state Jun 22 10:30:06 but after power on the screen Jun 22 10:30:09 leviathan: ha I will have mine first and only payed 25 total :P Jun 22 10:30:14 you've got no input working Jun 22 10:30:24 because the input are fake-suspended Jun 22 10:30:39 right, however fsousaged calls 'on' at end of suspend Jun 22 10:30:48 so that should wake everything up, no? Jun 22 10:30:57 yes Jun 22 10:31:03 but it didn't call end Jun 22 10:31:07 s/end/on Jun 22 10:31:10 hmm Jun 22 10:31:21 2010-06-22T10:11:21.098175Z [INFO] UsageController <5 R>: >>>>>>> KERNEL SUSPEND Jun 22 10:31:31 according to the code it does Jun 22 10:31:36 is the last thing in fsousaged Jun 22 10:31:39 otherwise the screen would not come back at all Jun 22 10:32:00 run it in foreground to see additional debug messages Jun 22 10:32:10 (preferably in screen, when you detach USB) Jun 22 10:32:19 ok Jun 22 10:33:18 ok Jun 22 10:33:24 I need to go now Jun 22 10:33:29 earning money ;-) Jun 22 10:34:46 mickey|office: you also gonna make a cable for dream / passion ? Jun 22 10:35:05 make probably not Jun 22 10:35:13 I'm a software guy Jun 22 10:35:22 i would appreciate one thgouh Jun 22 10:36:04 it's only 4 wires to solder. but once I successfully tested mine I could of course make you one Jun 22 10:36:48 ** (process:528): DEBUG: plugin.vala:145: --- checking whether we felt asleep... Jun 22 10:36:49 ** (process:528): DEBUG: plugin.vala:154: --- not yet... waiting a bit longer Jun 22 10:36:54 that's the last 2 lines Jun 22 10:37:13 http://pastebin.com/NhvukYmx Jun 22 10:37:55 http://pastebin.com/qyMBqM3K Jun 22 10:38:44 dcordes, only 4 wires? where did you find the usb->serial-ttl converter? Jun 22 10:39:35 dcordes, 25E is shipping+customs+htc-connector+usb->serial-ttl ? Jun 22 10:42:54 GNUtoo: no customs since I ordered in good old Germany. no htc connector. it has wire end. You need to solder mini or micro usb connector on your own Jun 22 10:43:08 ah? Jun 22 10:43:24 ah yes nexus one? Jun 22 10:43:46 no I will use it with my htc leo aka htc hd2 Jun 22 10:45:03 ah so they don't use the htc-usb connector? Jun 22 10:45:10 how can a standard usb connector work? Jun 22 10:45:59 it works because you only need to connect ground, +5V, D+, D- Jun 22 10:46:33 and as far as I know those are wired in the normal usb portion of htc usb jack :) Jun 22 10:47:30 else you could not use normal mini-b connector to connect to PC on dream. Jun 22 10:51:17 hmmm wait a minute Jun 22 10:56:27 maybe that only applies to the new devices with micro usb Jun 22 10:56:57 yes Jun 22 10:57:15 in the dream it's wired to the non-usb part Jun 22 10:57:42 mickey|office, ^^^ for the logs Jun 22 10:58:47 so it never wakes up now? Jun 22 10:58:58 indeed Jun 22 10:59:08 GNUtoo: maybe you can abuse headset from normal phone/electronics shop as breakout board Jun 22 10:59:18 ** (process:528): DEBUG: plugin.vala:145: --- checking whether we felt asleep... Jun 22 10:59:18 ** (process:528): DEBUG: plugin.vala:154: --- not yet... waiting a bit longer Jun 22 10:59:27 that get repeated infinites times Jun 22 10:59:34 ls Jun 22 10:59:35 oops Jun 22 10:59:37 GNUtoo: try to open it up in a way you can close it again. if the necessary pins are not wired you return it ^^ Jun 22 10:59:54 dcordes, I tried headset and failed Jun 22 11:01:12 GNUtoo: at local shop they sell adapter that splits extusb into audio and mini usb Jun 22 11:01:26 ah ok Jun 22 11:01:29 I think those are quite common. maybe you can try one of those Jun 22 11:01:40 ah ok Jun 22 11:02:49 GNUtoo: (usb-uart converter) fyi they're available either as chips, or you can take some usb cable for old cellphones, they have it already soldered, damn easy to use. Jun 22 11:03:07 PaulFertser, I've already some usb->uart Jun 22 11:03:51 it's dcordes who told 4 wires to solder Jun 22 11:04:15 so I wondered how he got such chap setup with usb->ttl integrated Jun 22 11:04:18 ~lart dcordes Jun 22 11:04:18 * apt follow's dcordes with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION Jun 22 11:05:17 GNUtoo: I ordered same cable as leviathan.. Jun 22 11:05:21 ok Jun 22 11:05:53 TTL-232R-3V3 Jun 22 11:06:04 if I make the cable I think I'll just take htc-usb connector Jun 22 11:06:25 and then use some electronics Jun 22 11:06:34 like lm317 Jun 22 11:06:38 and max3232 Jun 22 11:06:47 That's good if you've got rs232 handy Jun 22 11:06:58 Which is not the case with modern laptops. Jun 22 11:07:09 I've already 2 usb->232 adapter + one which is broken Jun 22 11:07:25 maybe the qwartz is broken Jun 22 11:07:42 I see. Jun 22 11:07:54 yes same here. pity that we can't use 'normal' rs232 with the high voltage levels Jun 22 11:08:00 basically it's not the cable Jun 22 11:08:10 and it often disconnects Jun 22 11:08:25 so I was suggested that it could be the qwartz Jun 22 11:09:43 better throw it in trash can if you have second one Jun 22 11:10:02 better keep it and repair it Jun 22 11:10:19 basically I've 2 other because of my bug device's debug board Jun 22 11:10:32 it has a connector + some male screw on it Jun 22 11:10:51 the previous one that also has the screws didn't work on it Jun 22 11:26:37 GNUtoo: btw, what about emacs? I find it especially useful when the phone's connected to a pc. Jun 22 11:52:34 ThibG: around? Jun 22 12:04:03 yes Jun 22 12:05:17 PaulFertser, I'll try again with opimd. Jun 22 12:06:01 GNUtoo: ok, let me know how it goes. I'm very open to suggestions. Jun 22 12:08:35 PaulFertser, what should I install to get opimd? Jun 22 12:09:15 frameworkd? Jun 22 12:11:41 Weiss, yes, I'm here Jun 22 12:11:49 aha Jun 22 12:12:00 r.e. upstreaming.. I guess you're sending the FB driver rather than the KMS/DRM one? Jun 22 12:12:13 GNUtoo: yes Jun 22 12:12:25 GNUtoo: you'll want it anyway for full phone functionality Jun 22 12:12:26 indeed Jun 22 12:12:41 that said, if you believe your KMS/DRM one is ok too, I can have a look :) Jun 22 12:13:30 I don't really think it's ready for upstreaming yet.. Jun 22 12:13:33 PaulFertser, ok because now I've 2 images shr-image and fso2-demo-image. I think I'll help mickeyl with fso2-demo-image,testing it Jun 22 12:13:43 the fact that it doesn't 100% work at getting a picture on the screen is a bad start :) Jun 22 12:14:00 hehe, indeed Jun 22 12:14:17 * GNUtoo must update frameworkd.conf Jun 22 12:14:37 for the dream it's outdated Jun 22 12:16:22 btw some people use webos here,how doable would be to port their opkg frontend called preware to x11+stock-feeds? because I was said SHR lacked 2 things: Jun 22 12:16:34 *a wifi GUI that works Jun 22 12:16:40 *a package manager that works Jun 22 12:17:08 s/package manager/GUI for opkg Jun 22 12:17:26 personally I use opkg and ifup/scripts Jun 22 12:17:34 GNUtoo: wifi gui that works is iliwi Jun 22 12:17:41 ok Jun 22 12:17:48 I'll try it and report to this person then Jun 22 12:18:21 GNUtoo: and there was some frontend to opkg, i guess it used to work. Jun 22 12:18:37 it doesn't work anymore Jun 22 12:18:45 and packagekit doesn't support system upgrade Jun 22 12:20:53 Weiss, having a look at your repo, it seems you've made some modifications to glamo-core and jbt Jun 22 12:21:09 GNUtoo: why anyone might like to have a GUI for package manager? Jun 22 12:21:50 does it play nicely with glamo-fb? Jun 22 12:21:58 I don't but I know newbies that really wanted a freerunner because it was free but weren't confortable with command line Jun 22 12:22:03 especially jbt changes Jun 22 12:22:32 roughly : to be able to promote SHR for everybody Jun 22 12:22:59 maybe when palm pre will be ready... Jun 22 12:23:09 ThibG: I've done some testing, and IIRC it seems to behave. you can't compile both glamo-fb and KMS at the same time though, you have to choose one or the other Jun 22 12:23:22 hm ok Jun 22 12:26:13 it's the same with all KMS drivers... you can't have two drivers trying to drive the same hardware, of course Jun 22 12:27:01 yeah Jun 22 12:29:11 mickey|office, do you have a minute for talking Jun 22 12:29:12 ? Jun 22 12:38:37 grr Jun 22 12:38:39 D-Bus error: "The name org.freesmartphone.opimd was not provided by any .service files" Jun 22 12:39:22 python errors Jun 22 12:39:37 ImportError: No module named sqlite3 Jun 22 12:39:46 TODO: fix the import error in oe Jun 22 12:41:31 ValueError: Not a boolean: 1 #test Jun 22 12:49:18 sigh Jun 22 12:49:23 I'll see emacs later Jun 22 12:49:32 frameworkd does not start Jun 22 12:49:39 I grepped for "#test" Jun 22 12:49:43 and found nothing Jun 22 12:51:32 alternatively it can exit with error 255 Jun 22 12:51:36 without printing anything Jun 22 12:54:52 GNUtoo: no traceback for the ValueError? Jun 22 12:55:41 there is one Jun 22 12:56:08 http://pastebin.com/t8et9mCx Jun 22 12:59:13 GNUtoo: that test comes from your frameworkd.conf Jun 22 12:59:25 GNUtoo: apparently you have some slight error in config. Jun 22 12:59:33 ah sorry Jun 22 13:00:08 oeventsd should be disabled? Jun 22 13:00:41 GNUtoo: no Jun 22 13:00:47 GNUtoo: there's no FSO2 alternative yet. Jun 22 13:00:48 ok I enable it then Jun 22 13:01:49 now it exits with 255 Jun 22 13:02:05 echo $? => 255 Jun 22 13:02:14 it doesn't print anything Jun 22 13:02:18 ls Jun 22 13:02:19 oops Jun 22 13:02:50 2010.06.22 15:01:13.172 frameworkd.controller ERROR dbus bus name org.freesmartphone.frameworkd already claimed. Exiting. Jun 22 13:02:51 ok Jun 22 13:02:55 maybe it already work Jun 22 13:04:19 GNUtoo: heh Jun 22 13:06:06 it's retriving messages now Jun 22 13:06:51 hmmm there is the same bug than in shr-image Jun 22 13:06:56 I see no messages Jun 22 13:11:00 GNUtoo: opimd shouldn't retrieve messages from anywhere Jun 22 13:11:07 ah ok Jun 22 13:11:22 GNUtoo: opimd works like that: whenever fsogsmd signals there's a new message, opimd stores it. Jun 22 13:11:54 ok Jun 22 13:12:04 so there is no way to import my sim messages? Jun 22 13:14:28 GNUtoo: Hi, I'm cleaning mesa recipes a bit and I've noticed this commit http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=cd60ddc92329fe9ef8fd707408be020a4f3303df Jun 22 13:15:13 JaMa, hi Jun 22 13:15:24 GNUtoo: I think it's not best solution as there are mesa (not mesa-dri) recipes doing exactly this (adding --disable-egl), so maybe it would be better to set virtual/libgl provider to mesa-xlib or mesa in htcdream.conf Jun 22 13:15:39 GNUtoo: no idea, probably pisi can do that. Or you can use mdbus2 to retrieve those from sim and opimd-cli to store them to opimd. Jun 22 13:15:56 JaMa, ok thanks a lot!!! Jun 22 13:16:18 GNUtoo: should I remove it and adjust provider (with cleanup patches)? Jun 22 13:16:28 JaMa, yes thanks a lot!!!! Jun 22 13:16:35 ok Jun 22 13:16:50 mickey|office, ping Jun 22 13:17:13 JaMa, btw I must find time to finish my git bisect Jun 22 13:17:17 GNUtoo: console image or shr image? Jun 22 13:17:58 mrmoku, ? Jun 22 13:18:08 GNUtoo: to import messages from sim to opimd Jun 22 13:18:15 mrmoku, console Jun 22 13:18:28 mrmoku, fso2-demo-image so console Jun 22 13:18:36 but I've the problem too in shr-image Jun 22 13:18:36 GNUtoo: ok... then I have no other suggestion then pisi Jun 22 13:18:37 GNUtoo: should I adjust it for all htc-msm7? Jun 22 13:18:50 mrmoku, ok thanks a lot Jun 22 13:18:59 does pisi have a command-line tool? Jun 22 13:20:01 yep Jun 22 13:20:09 ok thanks a lot Jun 22 13:20:17 np Jun 22 13:20:17 GNUtoo: nvm, removing it from htcdream.conf should be enough to force mesa-xlib as default Jun 22 13:20:28 JaMa, ok Jun 22 13:20:44 JaMa, you'll do it, or should I do it (I'm rather busy) Jun 22 13:23:03 GNUtoo: I'll Jun 22 13:23:23 JaMa, thanks a lot!!!! Jun 22 13:25:45 btw enlightenent keep segfaulting on my freerunner Jun 22 13:25:50 and no upgrade is available Jun 22 13:26:15 mickey|office, ping tell me when you've 1 min to talk Jun 22 13:27:27 GNUtoo: on start? or doing something? Jun 22 13:27:46 on start Jun 22 13:27:54 I've the message that illume segfaulted Jun 22 13:28:05 the no sim application on a part of the screen Jun 22 13:28:12 and when I clickon recover Jun 22 13:28:17 it segfault again Jun 22 13:28:22 did you try to remove .e ? Jun 22 13:28:46 I'll try thanks a lot Jun 22 13:31:54 GNUtoo: and illume or illume2 would be an interesting question too Jun 22 13:32:10 JaMa: btw. looks like 10s delay for shr-elm-softkey is not enough Jun 22 13:32:31 illume1 Jun 22 13:32:36 same thing Jun 22 13:32:52 I did not see flower power screen Jun 22 13:33:28 and .e is absent now Jun 22 13:33:35 I moved it to w Jun 22 13:33:39 s/w/e Jun 22 13:38:03 GNUtoo: hmm... did not try illume1 for some time now... illume2 works for me though Jun 22 13:38:20 ok Jun 22 13:38:25 ESTART: 0.35367 [0.00033] - efreet Jun 22 13:38:36 that's the last message I have when doing: Jun 22 13:38:37 Xorg Jun 22 13:38:43 export DISPLAY=:0.0 Jun 22 13:38:48 enlightenment_start.oe Jun 22 13:40:46 mrmoku: on clean reboot? definetely not enough on first run (with wizard) but with next reboot it's enough here (48s to enlightenment :) from bootchart).. Jun 22 13:41:13 GNUtoo: what is eee901? I don't see it in conf/machine Jun 22 13:41:33 GNUtoo: there is only eee701 Jun 22 13:41:38 indeed Jun 22 13:41:44 someone added overrides without the machine Jun 22 13:41:49 I saw that in the past Jun 22 13:41:50 too Jun 22 13:42:17 but I borrowed the name eee901 to add machine eee701 Jun 22 13:42:51 that is to say: Jun 22 13:43:02 because there was an eee901 override Jun 22 13:43:13 I named the machine eee701 instead of eeepc701 Jun 22 13:46:14 mickey|office, still no time to talk? I'll wait more then Jun 22 13:46:15 GNUtoo: ah ok, so it's ok to remove that override too as the eee901 owner should set it by provider too Jun 22 13:46:39 JaMa, do not remove eee701 override Jun 22 13:46:50 but I think eee901 can be removed Jun 22 13:47:24 I don't see how eee901 is overrided Jun 22 13:47:32 maybe look who made the commit Jun 22 13:49:25 JaMa, maybe it's in poky? Jun 22 13:49:32 like an external tree Jun 22 13:49:42 poky have support for some eee Jun 22 13:51:39 GNUtoo: there was only override for eee901 (no eee701) Jun 22 13:51:53 yes I just looked Jun 22 13:53:41 JaMa, 542eb3b16dc1c6fa7920257219ed5dac0b95c257 Jun 22 13:53:42 Q-Master: nice support for interactive ussd pushed to fso.el :p Jun 22 13:53:44 in poky Jun 22 13:53:50 it has been droped Jun 22 13:54:20 http://git.pokylinux.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=542eb3b16dc1c6fa7920257219ed5dac0b95c257 Jun 22 13:54:41 that's where theses overrides comes from I think Jun 22 13:54:45 something to do with poky Jun 22 13:54:51 GNUtoo: ah thanks Jun 22 13:55:28 np Jun 22 13:55:32 you're welcome Jun 22 14:00:59 JaMa: yeah on clean boot Jun 22 14:04:24 JaMa, also frameworkd depend on sqlite3 python bindings but when you install frameworkd in fso2-demo-image using the SHR distribution it doesn't pull it Jun 22 14:11:17 mickey|office, what is FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_SUSPENDED ? Jun 22 14:11:24 does it prevent the modem from working? Jun 22 14:13:33 GNUtoo: you mean, there is missing RDEPENDS in frameworkd (as I don't see sqlite there). Jun 22 14:13:43 yes Jun 22 14:13:55 there is also a missing RDEOEND in pisi Jun 22 14:14:01 ImportError: No module named e_dbus Jun 22 14:17:15 PaulFertser, I've done pisi shrsim opimd Jun 22 14:17:21 and still no contacts Jun 22 14:17:27 default setting Jun 22 14:18:33 I'll reboot the phone to see Jun 22 14:19:22 GNUtoo: no idea about pisi, but i know opimd-cli utility is quite handy to look/modify the opimd contents. Jun 22 14:20:40 ok Jun 22 14:21:00 thanks Jun 22 14:23:02 ah it imported the contacts Jun 22 14:23:05 but not the messages Jun 22 14:23:07 thanks a lot Jun 22 14:23:49 I'll reboot again...the modem was suspended Jun 22 14:25:56 PaulFertser, too bad the contact doesn't work Jun 22 14:26:05 how do you get them working? Jun 22 14:26:12 GNUtoo: the contact? Jun 22 14:26:29 yes : fso-pim-show-contacts Jun 22 14:26:34 it shows 0 contacts Jun 22 14:26:48 GNUtoo: what does ``opimd-cli c query'' show? Jun 22 14:26:48 s/contact/contacts Jun 22 14:26:57 it shows a lot of contacts Jun 22 14:27:07 GNUtoo: then kill the empty buffer with contacts Jun 22 14:27:19 GNUtoo: and press "c" in "fso status" again. Jun 22 14:27:30 GNUtoo: or even do "fso-quit" Jun 22 14:27:40 GNUtoo: and ``M-x fso'' again. Jun 22 14:27:47 ok Jun 22 14:27:54 I'll kill zhone2 to see Jun 22 14:28:09 GNUtoo: when i receive a signal about any contacts adding/changing, i modify the list in the buffer accordingly. Jun 22 14:28:27 GNUtoo: not sure how it might be missing your contacts :/ Jun 22 14:29:02 ok Jun 22 14:29:54 Symbol's value as variable is void: fso-hooker-image Jun 22 14:31:02 Symbol's value as variable is void: fso-registered-signals Jun 22 14:32:20 hm, quick poll: should glamo be moved to staging before submitting? Jun 22 14:33:19 i think, yes Jun 22 14:33:53 GNUtoo: how to reproduce? Jun 22 14:34:16 if it's good enough for outside-staging inclusion, than what would be benefit of staging? Jun 22 14:35:08 I don't think it needs to go in staging Jun 22 14:36:51 However, Lars said "Well, the only driver that would qualify for staging is the glamo driver. But I'm not sure if it really makes sense to put it into staging. The only known HW platform using the glamo is the Freerunner." Jun 22 14:37:21 I agree that you can try to send it to LKML and if some reviewer suggests to go to staging first then you can move it in PATCH-v2 Jun 22 14:37:47 ok Jun 22 14:38:09 sounds to be a good plan Jun 22 14:38:51 but if the code is good enough and nobody would complain, then it would be strange to move it from staging without any change in next window :) Jun 22 14:39:36 ThibG: and btw: huge thanks for working on it.. I'm really glad to see new "kernel guy" Jun 22 14:40:32 Weiss, 9cd5001fc2f4c817d5614b1ee5445d69af05d483 could go in OM IMO, it's unrelated to KMS and fixes a bug Jun 22 14:41:09