**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 01 02:59:57 2010
Jul 01 04:17:40 <CIA-58> SHR: 03lukasmaerdian 07libphone-ui-shr * rf6066212bc9a 10/data/keypad.edc: [keypad] add missing letter
Jul 01 04:25:39 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: 3.2 is fine, building :)
Jul 01 04:26:13 <JaMa> mrmoku|away: there is no problem with .x, because it's not PR (DISTRO_PR is not appended)
Jul 01 06:05:05 <mrmoku> JaMa: great
Jul 01 07:58:29 <JaMa> radekp: hi, do you still have gta01 from Pavel? Could you share 2.6.32+ config for gta01?
Jul 01 07:59:02 <radekp> JaMa: hi, yup i have but i havent tried 2.6.32 on it yet
Jul 01 08:00:53 <JaMa> radekp: ah ok
Jul 01 09:24:02 <mickey|office> morniung
Jul 01 09:29:59 <Q-Master> morning
Jul 01 09:53:03 <JaMa> morning
Jul 01 09:54:22 <mrmoku> mahlzeit ;)
Jul 01 10:11:35 <gena2x> hm... i can't sent mail to community-ml. i am only one who has this problem?
Jul 01 10:15:00 <gena2x> hmm. mail daemon says it is sent actually.
Jul 01 10:17:47 <gena2x> but nothing on web page.
Jul 01 10:18:52 <lindi-> gena2x: last mail from you is <1277974897.21693.35.camel@work.bsdmn.ru>
Jul 01 10:22:46 <gena2x> lindi-: hmmm... is it a spam?
Jul 01 10:23:22 <lindi-> gena2x: no, it's a normal email
Jul 01 10:23:31 <lindi-> gena2x: about overclocking
Jul 01 10:23:45 <gena2x> lindi-: it is recent?
Jul 01 10:24:09 <gena2x> lindi-: i mean recieved few minutes ago?
Jul 01 10:24:25 <lindi-> gena2x: all my email was received a few minutes ago when I ran fetchmail
Jul 01 10:24:52 <lindi-> gena2x: but it has 'Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:01:37 +0400'
Jul 01 10:24:58 <gena2x> lindi-: ok, thanks. seem just something wrong with web service.
Jul 01 10:27:47 <dos1> gena2x: "I am using mostly 533/88/clk2 now and over versions for may be 5 days. So far i have no problems. (...)"
Jul 01 10:27:58 <dos1> that's last mail from ya on ml
Jul 01 10:28:14 <gena2x> ahhh....
Jul 01 10:28:23 <gena2x> i am stupid, thanks.
Jul 01 10:28:41 <gena2x> i got idea :) i am refreshing page from june!
Jul 01 10:29:10 <dos1> :D
Jul 01 12:01:48 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rcf1a362346c4 10/src/view/quick-settings-view.c: quick-settings: try to better handle the GPRS sliders
Jul 01 12:01:49 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * re6841a807502 10/src/view/message-new-view.c: message-new-view: do not free the view before running the send callback
Jul 01 12:01:50 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r364a8452b66f 10/src/view/idle-view.c: idle-view: handle GSM vanished case in network status handler
Jul 01 12:01:51 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rdd636aa53150 10/src/view/message-new-view.c: message-new-view: show an error when sending a message failed
Jul 01 12:01:56 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r8986d057d49e 10/src/view/message-new-view.c: message-new-view: give SMS sending a callback - still does not do anything though
Jul 01 12:01:59 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * rbe8e4c0ad62d 10/data/keypad.edc: Merge remote branch 'origin/master'
Jul 01 12:02:00 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r899cbc8555b7 10/src/phoneui-info.c: phoneui-info: listen to NameOwnerChanged
Jul 01 12:02:01 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui-shr * r35ec46ff3db6 10/src/view/idle-view.c: idle-view: register to pdp context status - do nothing yet though
Jul 01 12:02:07 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07libphone-ui * r868e272cf928 10/src/ (phoneui-utils-calls.c phoneui-utils.c): Merge branch 'master' of git+ssh://git.shr-project.org/libphone-ui
Jul 01 12:02:09 <JaMa> go go!
Jul 01 12:02:24 <mrmoku> :)
Jul 01 12:02:40 * mrmoku should not keep dirty trees sooo long :/
Jul 01 12:06:10 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07phonefsod * rac7f924e4e79 10/src/phonefsod.c: trigger fso_startup, when the gsm service appears on the bus after we are started
Jul 01 12:07:14 * mwester hands mrmoku a bucket of soapy water and a scrub brush for his tree.
Jul 01 12:08:20 * gena2x warns do not wash trees with soap
Jul 01 12:08:34 <mrmoku> mwester: the birds will dislike that ;)
Jul 01 12:11:10 <mrmoku> radekp: you might be interested in http://git.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=6918af957604fdee625a256a99146f237175d162
Jul 01 12:11:46 <radekp> mrmoku: ahh great, thanks
Jul 01 13:21:58 <JaMa> mrmoku: gpio-keys moved event dev nodes for TS?
Jul 01 13:22:10 <JaMa> mrmoku: seems like e17 doesn't start again..
Jul 01 13:22:30 <mrmoku> JaMa: hmmm.. touchscreen still works for me without any change
Jul 01 13:22:45 <mrmoku> JaMa: it adds input/event5 IIRC
Jul 01 13:22:52 <mrmoku> (on 2.6.32)
Jul 01 13:22:55 <JaMa> ok, then I just debug it more
Jul 01 13:35:31 <JaMa> mrmoku: I got old xorg.conf (no idea how).. sorry for confusion
Jul 01 13:35:43 <mrmoku> :P np
Jul 01 14:07:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi leviathan
Jul 01 14:40:09 <leviathan> hi gnutoo
Jul 01 14:40:11 <leviathan> :-)
Jul 01 15:50:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, mark brown told me that it should be the buffer managements and not .silence
Jul 01 15:50:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> so I'll return 0 in .silence
Jul 01 15:50:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> and I'm looking for the right mailling list for asking a question and post patches about our drivers
Jul 01 15:51:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe the android kenrel mailing list?
Jul 01 15:51:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, btw do you have the mainline patch for serial?
Jul 01 16:00:12 <JaMa> PaulFertser: selling tires in Russia seems like very nice bussiness :)
Jul 01 16:00:46 * JaMa watched that advertisement 3 times... :)
Jul 01 16:02:45 <mickeyl> which one?
Jul 01 16:03:10 <JaMa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suwrguOdQSQ&feature=player_embedded
Jul 01 16:03:57 <mickeyl> heh, amazing tires. thanks
Jul 01 16:04:51 <Q-Master> selling those girls is  better business 8)
Jul 01 16:08:01 <mrmoku> mickeyl: hehe, maybe you should do some spot like that to advertise fso ;)
Jul 01 16:08:55 <mickeyl> hehe
Jul 01 16:08:57 <njw_> I'd donate $10 for that ;-)
Jul 01 16:09:14 <mickeyl> professional babes are expensive
Jul 01 16:09:22 <mrmoku> njw_: you'll just get a toe for that :P
Jul 01 16:09:22 <mickeyl> dancers, i mean
Jul 01 16:09:49 <Q-Master> mickeyl: yeah yeah... "dancers" 8))
Jul 01 16:09:57 <mickeyl> :D
Jul 01 16:10:30 <njw_> hmm. perhaps we could just superimpose some FSO logos over the tyres...
Jul 01 16:12:24 <blindcoder> hmm, I need new tires for my motorbike...
Jul 01 16:12:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've an idea for fso add:
Jul 01 16:13:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically it would use the idea that your phone has been broken by an upgrade
Jul 01 16:14:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> like your boss can't call you
Jul 01 16:14:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> or you wife can't (you're with someone else)
Jul 01 16:15:04 <JaMa> blindcoder: please try fltkspacetrader with newer xserver (1.9 rc4 is building), or provide simple testcase
Jul 01 16:15:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> btw is shr-testing still developed ?
Jul 01 16:15:25 <blindcoder> JaMa: simple testcase: start fltkspacetrader :)
Jul 01 16:15:44 <blindcoder> JaMa: if it starts fine, bug fixed :)
Jul 01 16:16:22 <njw_> GNUtoo|laptop: ... I don't know. I'm still quite fond of the "dancer" theme.
Jul 01 16:16:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jul 01 16:17:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> or maybe you're dancing in a discoteque and you can't be called because an upgrade broke your phone
Jul 01 16:17:29 <JaMa> GNUtoo|laptop: there is newer shr-t built, (I've merged shr-u with fsogsmd to it), but nobody tested it so I didn't rsync it..
Jul 01 16:17:35 <njw_> GNUtoo|laptop: maybe we could overlay "hello [silence] HELLO??? [more silence] hang on" and so on. Best of both worlds
Jul 01 16:17:52 <TAsn> well, did sooner than tomorrow happen? :P
Jul 01 16:17:57 <njw_> GNUtoo|laptop: over the girls, of course
Jul 01 16:18:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> indeed
Jul 01 16:18:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> JaMa, ok
Jul 01 16:18:43 <JaMa> GNUtoo|laptop: so there is month old shr-u in shr-t branch now
Jul 01 16:18:51 <njw_> so anyway. after that bout of enlightenment, I should go. getting carried away.
Jul 01 16:19:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> so everybody uses shr-u?
Jul 01 16:19:51 <TAsn> JaMa, well, did sooner than tomorrow happen? :P
Jul 01 16:22:50 <JaMa> TAsn: ah :) yes, sure
Jul 01 16:23:10 <JaMa> GNUtoo|laptop: no idea :/
Jul 01 16:23:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jul 01 16:24:18 <JaMa> someone had downloads stats from buildhost, but I'm not sure how accurate it is for users stats
Jul 01 16:24:38 <TAsn> JaMa, thx.
Jul 01 16:24:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jul 01 16:29:39 <mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: http://build.shr-project.org/stats/
Jul 01 16:29:51 <mrmoku> ends 03/2010 though :/
Jul 01 16:29:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok thanks
Jul 01 16:30:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jul 01 16:30:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> the important thing is kb
Jul 01 16:30:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> because who often visit shr's website
Jul 01 16:30:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Jul 01 16:30:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> but there are many people who download images or opkg update;opkg upgrade
Jul 01 16:40:43 <mickeyl> GNUtoo|laptop: what's your future plan wrt. dream?
Jul 01 16:41:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> *rebase to android 2.6.32 as I can't get the cable
Jul 01 16:41:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> *ask upstream for the problematic parts that is to say:
Jul 01 16:41:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> *sound
Jul 01 16:41:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> mmc 
Jul 01 16:42:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> and maybe msmfb
Jul 01 16:46:35 <mickeyl> ok
Jul 01 16:47:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> I still hesitate to get the palm pre tough(that won't prevent me from working on the htcdream but would get me an usable phone)
Jul 01 16:47:41 <mickeyl> sure
Jul 01 16:47:52 <mickeyl> eating your own dogfood is generally considered best
Jul 01 16:48:01 <mickeyl> so rather stick with the dream until it's ready for day2day
Jul 01 16:48:12 <mickeyl> also, not opening too many construction sites at once
Jul 01 16:48:14 <mickeyl> (like me :/)
Jul 01 16:48:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, yes but I would only use the palm pre as a super-freerunner
Jul 01 16:48:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> also I wouldn't know how to help with palm pre
Jul 01 16:49:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> all the work to be done is reverse engineering
Jul 01 16:49:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'm not a reverse-engineer
Jul 01 16:49:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> and can't be one
Jul 01 16:49:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> because I need to have a lot of experience with engineering first
Jul 01 16:52:34 <Weiss> woah, when did 6.50pm happen? :S
Jul 01 16:53:10 <larsc> a few minutes ago
Jul 01 16:53:16 <larsc> ;)
Jul 01 16:53:20 <Weiss> even worse :o
Jul 01 16:53:24 * Weiss forgot to leave work, again
Jul 01 16:53:33 <larsc> hehe
Jul 01 16:53:39 <larsc> and now you are locked in?
Jul 01 16:54:38 <Weiss> fortunately not, just late for dinner
Jul 01 16:54:45 <larsc> where i work we have those rfid keys and student keys stop working after 7pm
Jul 01 16:56:29 <Weiss> photon science master key doesn't stop working, though :D
Jul 01 16:56:38 <larsc> hehe :)
Jul 01 17:05:09 * Weiss decides to leave the R-factors for tomorrow, and heads home
Jul 01 17:14:52 * JaMa stayed at home today (after donating blood), but have to go to work tomorrow :/
Jul 01 17:26:11 <PaulFertser> JaMa: Yeah, and you can sell used tires too :)
Jul 01 17:26:51 <JaMa> PaulFertser: how often do you change tires on your bike? :)
Jul 01 17:27:06 <JaMa> every 5 000km? :)
Jul 01 17:27:08 <TAsn> mickeyl, We really need an accelerometer analyzing daemon in fso. :P a "screen rotated" signal could be fun.
Jul 01 17:27:29 <PaulFertser> JaMa: Basically, never, i got a pair for summer, and a pair for winter.
Jul 01 17:28:05 <mrmoku> TAsn: that is already there
Jul 01 17:29:09 <PaulFertser> JaMa: the slogan in that ad says "nothing unneeded".
Jul 01 17:29:09 <JaMa> PaulFertser: on my old bike, they are so thin that the wires are visible on few places and the shape is not good anymore :)
Jul 01 17:29:36 <TAsn> mrmoku, I remembered a config option, I just didn't remember a rotate signal, so it's there? :P
Jul 01 17:29:46 <mrmoku> TAsn: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.html;hb=HEAD
Jul 01 17:29:52 <TAsn> sweet.
Jul 01 17:29:54 <TAsn> :P
Jul 01 17:30:02 <mrmoku> TAsn: we just have the accels disabled by default in fso
Jul 01 17:30:09 <TAsn> I'm aware of that.
Jul 01 17:30:15 <TAsn> but that's an fr issue
Jul 01 17:30:17 <TAsn> not shr.
Jul 01 17:30:23 <mrmoku> yep
Jul 01 17:30:24 <JaMa> PaulFertser: also about 3 side plugs are torn off
Jul 01 17:31:06 <PaulFertser> JaMa: what's the total distance it went?
Jul 01 17:32:07 <PaulFertser> (no idea what's side plug)
Jul 01 17:32:11 <JaMa> PaulFertser: no idea but I used that bike for maybe 8 years without changing tires.. so quite long
Jul 01 17:32:48 <JaMa> PaulFertser: I mean those higher "bumps" on sides (on tires for dirty roads)
Jul 01 17:32:58 <PaulFertser> Ah, yeah
Jul 01 17:33:22 <JaMa> no idea how it's named in English :/
Jul 01 17:34:38 <JaMa> ah knobs
Jul 01 17:35:07 <PaulFertser> JaMa: yeah
Jul 01 17:35:15 <PaulFertser> I've just looked it up on wikipedia
Jul 01 17:35:17 <PaulFertser> :)
Jul 01 17:35:59 * JaMa read some boring tire advertisement http://www.bicycletires.com/pcomkp/continental_mountain_king_protection/pp.htm
Jul 01 17:37:41 <Weiss> JaMa: you get a day off for that? :o
Jul 01 17:38:43 <JaMa> Weiss: it's guaranteed by law here.. so why not :)
Jul 01 17:38:50 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: sry
Jul 01 17:39:03 <leviathan> needed to buy soldering iron
Jul 01 17:39:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, ok np
Jul 01 17:39:20 <leviathan> and had a supra  conductor fly'n on a magnet in my room
Jul 01 17:39:26 <leviathan> was very fascinating ^^
Jul 01 17:39:46 <JaMa> Weiss: I consider it as employer participating on good deed..
Jul 01 17:40:31 <ftn> Hey. I'm trying to connect to my hidden wpa network using shr-u with the very wpa_supplicant.conf file I used in shr-t but it doesn't work (it repeats "CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS" forever). Can you help me with it?, please
Jul 01 17:40:46 <leviathan> following thing
Jul 01 17:40:59 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: I'v got no serial patch for official kernel
Jul 01 17:41:05 <leviathan> because its already in there
Jul 01 17:41:13 <leviathan> look into following branch/repo
Jul 01 17:41:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, ok
Jul 01 17:41:47 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/kernel/?p=dwalker/linux-msm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/for-next
Jul 01 17:42:07 <leviathan> thats the kernel  branch where they are working for upstream
Jul 01 17:42:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jul 01 17:42:18 <leviathan> they hope to get fb working in 2.6.36
Jul 01 17:42:22 <leviathan> also in official kernel
Jul 01 17:50:13 <JaMa> blindcoder: it still fails, but ie fltk based dillo works ok, would you care to create small testcase (ideally without fltk, which can show the issue in freedesktop bugzilla and report it there as git master regression?), I remember some e-mail from you that's only double buffering issue.. it would be better fixed before 1.9 release..)
Jul 01 17:53:11 <JaMa> does quick-settings also hide after about 1 sec for you?
Jul 01 17:54:14 <JaMa> it's probably when GSM is down  (MESSAGE: _get_network_status_callback: error 4: This function is not available while modem is in state FSO_GSM_MODEM_STATUS_CLOSED) but it would be better to keep it open and maybe just show that GSM is not available
Jul 01 17:54:34 <JaMa> it's hard to click shutdown :)
Jul 01 17:54:37 <Weiss> JaMa: I was getting that a few days ago, if it helps..
Jul 01 18:01:15 <JaMa> Weiss: do you know if you were registered to GSM when you seen it?
Jul 01 18:02:16 <Weiss> JaMa: I'm about 60% sure I wasn't..
Jul 01 18:02:32 <Weiss> did the alignment traps go away, by the way? if so, I can re-flash and test with the latest
Jul 01 18:12:55 <JaMa> Weiss: no, traps are still there
Jul 01 18:13:11 <JaMa> Weiss: but you can disable reporting those in dmesg..
Jul 01 18:14:25 <blindcoder> JaMa: I'll try to extract the Xdbe calls from fltk leading to the crash
Jul 01 18:16:27 <blindcoder> JaMa: but might not be before next week. tomorrow's last day in kuwait (lots of work, handover/docs) and saturday 5 AM I'm going back home
Jul 01 18:16:44 <blindcoder> JaMa: I'll try to get it by Monday evening
Jul 01 18:18:20 <JaMa> blindcoder: next week is fine... I'm leaving tomorrow till Wednesday so you can still prepare is sooner than I could
Jul 01 18:49:06 <morphis> heyho
Jul 01 18:49:38 <PaulFertser> Yo
Jul 01 18:52:06 <mrmoku> gitk
Jul 01 18:52:11 <mrmoku> heh
Jul 01 18:52:12 <mrmoku> oops
Jul 01 20:04:08 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r11b4d04795de 10/msmcommd2/src/ (remoteclient.vala remoteclienthandler.vala): msmcommd2: stop all remote client on remote handler stop
Jul 01 20:04:09 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r6973cecfe392 10/msmcommd2/src/ (flowcontrolhandler.vala transmissionhandler.vala): msmcommd2: flow control handler drop frame if it is invalid
Jul 01 20:04:10 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r5fbdfe65e717 10/msmcommd2/src/frame.vala: msmcommd2: check for payload.lenght > 0 instead of payload != null
Jul 01 20:04:12 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r005862b3dad1 10/msmcommd2/src/ (10 files): 
Jul 01 20:04:12 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: msmcommd2: sending/recieving message via msmvterm works now
Jul 01 20:04:12 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: Basic sending via msmvterm works, but the whole thing needs some more finetunning. Even
Jul 01 20:04:12 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: the code need to be cleaned up at some places. But we are a lot closer to a final release
Jul 01 20:04:13 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: of msmcommd now!
Jul 01 20:23:35 <CIA-58> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r91ea329fd3be 10/msmsh/ (14 files in 4 dirs): msmcomm: removed unuses msmcomm shell utility
Jul 01 21:31:37 <CIA-58> SHR: 03mok 07phonefsod * r61e66298cc5b 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): add a new option to configure dimming behaviour
Jul 01 21:32:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi mickeyl leviathan 
Jul 01 21:33:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> I think I found the reason for the buffer underrun issue....you won't like it
Jul 01 21:33:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically while rebasing I tried to fix the audio
Jul 01 21:33:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> and I found that qdsp5 and our audio driver share code
Jul 01 21:34:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> I looked at that function
Jul 01 21:34:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> audio_write in audio_out.c
Jul 01 21:35:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> it had some code that wasn't present in the alsa driver
Jul 01 21:35:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> that comment will say everything:
Jul 01 21:35:20 <GNUtoo|laptop>         /* just for this write, set us real-time */
Jul 01 21:35:26 <GNUtoo|laptop>         if (!task_has_rt_policy(current)) {
Jul 01 21:35:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> etc...
Jul 01 21:35:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> it set the wirte real time
Jul 01 21:35:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> I did the same
Jul 01 21:35:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> and it's much better for music
Jul 01 21:35:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> no more buffer underrun
Jul 01 21:36:09 <mickeyl> hmm
Jul 01 21:36:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> even under heavy load
Jul 01 21:36:22 <mickeyl> cool
Jul 01 21:36:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> movies...it depend on the movie
Jul 01 21:36:35 <mickeyl> what i don't understand is... why is there no hardware decoding?
Jul 01 21:36:46 <mickeyl> afaik the dream can decode several streams in hardware
Jul 01 21:36:48 <mickeyl> no?
Jul 01 21:36:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> you mean decoding offload
Jul 01 21:36:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Jul 01 21:36:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I'm focussed on pcm
Jul 01 21:37:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> with alsa
Jul 01 21:37:07 <mickeyl> right
Jul 01 21:37:11 <mickeyl> in that case no hardware decoding
Jul 01 21:37:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> indeed
Jul 01 21:37:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> hardware decoding belongs to gstreamer etc...
Jul 01 21:37:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> there is even code for video decoding
Jul 01 21:37:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I prefer having the basics before that
Jul 01 21:44:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> with sound+framebuffer+rotation it would be a great phone
Jul 01 21:44:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> only wifi is problematic
Jul 01 21:44:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> rotation is static altough
Jul 01 21:44:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> and must be fixed in xf86-input-tslib
Jul 01 21:44:44 <GNUtoo|laptop> but for a moment it worked
Jul 01 21:44:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> until they upgraded xorg
Jul 01 21:50:06 <mickeyl> how long is your standby time now with suspend?
Jul 01 21:52:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> I don't know
Jul 01 21:52:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll look
Jul 01 21:52:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> I also plan to do something contreversial
Jul 01 21:53:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> the framebuffer code
Jul 01 21:53:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> for FBIOBLANK
Jul 01 21:53:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> it will be enabled by default only if it works well
Jul 01 21:53:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> I don't want crashes anymores
Jul 01 21:53:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> because it crashes even in framebuffer mode
Jul 01 21:53:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> that is to say fso2-demo-image
Jul 01 21:54:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> and as your requested maybe we'll use the TI wifi driver
Jul 01 21:54:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> because:
Jul 01 21:54:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> *no calibration file to extract
Jul 01 21:54:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> *better PM
Jul 01 21:54:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> *ad-hoc 
Jul 01 21:55:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> altough I can spend some time on stock wifi
Jul 01 21:57:54 <mickeyl> ad-hoc wifi would be nice
Jul 01 21:58:09 <mickeyl> perhaps we also have a chance with bluetooth after your rebasing
Jul 01 21:59:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe 
Jul 01 21:59:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> with my rebasing expect:
Jul 01 21:59:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> ->improvement in common drivers
Jul 01 22:00:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> like msmfb
Jul 01 22:00:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> and such
Jul 01 22:00:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> but less improvements in dream specific aeras
Jul 01 22:00:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> for instance they don't even have the commit which restore suspend
Jul 01 22:00:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> so I've added it in our tree
Jul 01 22:01:17 <mickeyl> so it's still necessary, they didn't fix their drivers?
Jul 01 22:01:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> no
Jul 01 22:01:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll try to talk with them
Jul 01 22:01:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> but I don't know on which mailing list they hang
Jul 01 22:02:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've tried the andoird kenrel maliing list
Jul 01 22:02:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'm awaiting moderation aproval
Jul 01 22:02:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> there is also the msm kenrel.org mailing list
Jul 01 22:03:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> but that's for upstream submissions right?
Jul 01 22:03:25 <mickeyl> no idea
Jul 01 22:03:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jul 01 22:03:46 <mickeyl> i guess even pavel gave up the fight
Jul 01 22:03:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> not shure
Jul 01 22:03:57 <mickeyl> didn't see much from him on alkml wrt. dream porting
Jul 01 22:04:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> he's on -msm mailing list
Jul 01 22:04:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> and there is some activity
Jul 01 22:04:17 <mickeyl> do you have a link offhand?
Jul 01 22:04:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Jul 01 22:04:58 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: atm daniel walker is doing the development
Jul 01 22:05:01 <leviathan> I mailed with him
Jul 01 22:05:09 <leviathan> and asked for state of patches
Jul 01 22:05:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html
Jul 01 22:05:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Jul 01 22:05:27 <mickeyl> got it, thanks
Jul 01 22:05:30 <leviathan> he told me that with 2.6.36
Jul 01 22:05:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> inux-arm-msm
Jul 01 22:05:37 <mickeyl> hmm
Jul 01 22:05:40 <mickeyl> fun
Jul 01 22:05:42 <mickeyl> the link is broken
Jul 01 22:05:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> *linux-arm-msm
Jul 01 22:05:43 <mickeyl> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.arm.msm
Jul 01 22:05:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Jul 01 22:05:46 <mickeyl> "no such group"
Jul 01 22:05:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> I know
Jul 01 22:05:49 <mickeyl> :/
Jul 01 22:05:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> before there wasn't any public archive tough
Jul 01 22:06:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe they didn't finish the setup yet
Jul 01 22:06:12 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop, mickeyl: we should have support for htcdream in official upstream with 2.6.36
Jul 01 22:06:28 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: nice, that you found the solution
Jul 01 22:06:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Jul 01 22:06:44 <mickeyl> "support" = base system
Jul 01 22:06:44 <leviathan> I just took the hardware commands from qdsp driver
Jul 01 22:06:46 <mickeyl> ?
Jul 01 22:06:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> I bought this phone mainly for audio
Jul 01 22:06:49 <leviathan> and recycled them in alsa
Jul 01 22:06:50 <mickeyl> or all drivers
Jul 01 22:06:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> it has a microsd slot
Jul 01 22:07:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> so with a microsd of 16G
Jul 01 22:07:09 <leviathan> I bought it because of the keyboard ^^
Jul 01 22:07:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> I could use it to play music
Jul 01 22:07:18 <leviathan> keyboard+umts
Jul 01 22:07:24 <leviathan> nice everywhere terminal
Jul 01 22:07:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> also don't tell anyone but I bought it for freeing it
Jul 01 22:07:51 <leviathan> okee
Jul 01 22:07:53 <leviathan> :-)
Jul 01 22:08:01 <leviathan> I tought it would be free already
Jul 01 22:08:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically I was helping without the phone
Jul 01 22:08:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> and I thought that having the phone would be easier for helping
Jul 01 22:08:23 <leviathan> but android teached me, that not everything must be a linux, where linux is written
Jul 01 22:08:24 <leviathan> -.-
Jul 01 22:08:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll try to sleep soon
Jul 01 22:09:06 <leviathan> ok
Jul 01 22:09:08 <leviathan> gn8
Jul 01 22:09:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> in anycase you know how to fix it if I don't come back
Jul 01 22:09:17 <leviathan> huu?
Jul 01 22:09:22 <leviathan> yes
Jul 01 22:09:32 <leviathan> but I guess you'll come back
Jul 01 22:09:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> druidu never comed back for instance
Jul 01 22:09:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> I could be busy with real life
Jul 01 22:09:46 <leviathan> hmm
Jul 01 22:09:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> or you can never know....
Jul 01 22:09:51 <leviathan> hmm
Jul 01 22:09:53 <leviathan> yes
Jul 01 22:10:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> I always come back but I can't predict the future
Jul 01 22:10:17 <leviathan> real life is such a concept which does not pay out really
Jul 01 22:10:23 <leviathan> its over rated
Jul 01 22:10:24 <leviathan> ^^
Jul 01 22:10:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> I should also commit wifi on old branch
Jul 01 22:10:32 <leviathan> yes
Jul 01 22:10:55 <leviathan> GNUtoo|laptop: you've seen sane the last time I've seen you
Jul 01 22:11:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Jul 01 22:11:04 <leviathan> so just keep away from train rails
Jul 01 22:11:08 <leviathan> and trucks
Jul 01 22:11:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> italy is dangerous
Jul 01 22:11:17 <leviathan> and do not get over a street while its red
Jul 01 22:11:23 <GNUtoo|laptop> they drive like crazy
Jul 01 22:11:28 <leviathan> yeah
Jul 01 22:11:30 <leviathan> I know
Jul 01 22:11:38 <leviathan> already was there multiple times
Jul 01 22:11:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jul 01 22:11:43 <leviathan> I've got relatives there
Jul 01 22:11:45 <leviathan> :-)
Jul 01 22:11:51 <leviathan> I'm partially itialian
Jul 01 22:11:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> lol
Jul 01 22:12:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll go bye
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