**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 12 02:59:57 2010 Jul 12 04:25:50 dmth137@science.mq.edu.au Jul 12 05:36:17 mrmoku|away: i do not care about usb host mode anyway Jul 12 06:30:34 gena2x: pong Jul 12 06:49:30 mrmoku|away: (pastebin) what the hell does it mean? Jul 12 06:49:32 :-O Jul 12 07:10:29 PaulFertser: (pastebin) dunno... something very corrupted... Jul 12 07:11:15 mrmoku: GSM interference spoiling uSD communication? Jul 12 10:43:50 is it possible to umount/shutdown with just echo to some /proc or /sys file? I have running SHR with eglibc removed :/ just hoping for clean shutdown to repair it from 2nd partition... Jul 12 10:44:05 so only bash + builtins are available Jul 12 10:45:21 JaMa: try find SysRq node inside /proc Jul 12 10:46:10 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Command_line_access_and_configuration Jul 12 10:46:24 no /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq here :/ Jul 12 10:47:19 # CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is not set in 2.6.34 defconfig... Jul 12 10:48:17 sync isnt available? Jul 12 10:49:10 sync as command? no.. everything linked to libc is not available Jul 12 10:49:30 and bash is running just because it was started before opkg install -force-reinstall libc6 Jul 12 10:50:25 and installing libc6 failed because of opkg failing to resolve hostname (because of missing libc functionality :/) Jul 12 10:51:02 JaMa: can you resolve it manually and supply opkg with a direct path then? Jul 12 10:51:19 JaMa, can you scp? In that case you could use some static binaries for mount/sync etc Jul 12 10:51:23 PaulFertser: opkg also doesn't work anymore... :) Jul 12 10:52:26 ao2: scp tries to open bash (my shell) on remote end.. so no scp also doesn't work Jul 12 10:52:36 I see Jul 12 10:53:07 JaMa: running from NAND or SD? Jul 12 10:53:11 SD Jul 12 10:53:57 maybe best case is suspend it (which would at least sync) Jul 12 10:54:08 JaMa: yup, that's what i wanted to say now ;) Jul 12 10:54:33 or I can echo ..... > /lib/libc6.so :) Jul 12 10:55:47 :D Jul 12 10:55:54 but I'm not sure if my screen buffer will be big enought for whole shell escaped binary will, or at least few times my buffer :) Jul 12 10:57:20 echo in chunks and append Jul 12 10:57:30 1.1M Jul 12 10:57:42 it's a lot of chunks :) Jul 12 10:58:23 so if nobody has better idea how to fix it remotely, I'll suspend and repair locally later tonight Jul 12 11:09:42 * dos1 installed opkg on his debian Jul 12 11:10:08 it's time to finish shr-installer, there not that much left Jul 12 11:11:55 hmm doesn't work too :/ export LD_LIBRARY_PRELOAD=/data/old-20100514/usr/lib;/data/old-20100514/lib Jul 12 11:25:17 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r03ecd71d6c68 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (atchannel.vala atcommandqueue.vala): fsogsmd: allow cancelling the MODEM initialization phase Jul 12 11:25:18 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfa48a21da5c9 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/atcommands.vala: Jul 12 11:25:18 freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: atcommands: bring back custom command, since the command sequence uses Jul 12 11:25:18 freesmartphone.org: the factory method to grab it. Jul 12 11:37:30 PaulFertser: I probably have found the root of my GPRS problems Jul 12 11:37:42 PaulFertser: my battery Jul 12 11:37:45 sun spots? Jul 12 11:37:48 mrmoku: oh? Jul 12 11:38:19 PaulFertser: I tried an old nokia bl-5c I have lying around Jul 12 11:38:35 and it worked much longer without hanging Jul 12 11:39:22 * mrmoku charging his bl-5c in external charger and tries again with a full one Jul 12 11:40:19 hmm, i guess eventually i should bring back timeout detection... Jul 12 11:40:42 hmm Jul 12 11:40:59 this is one of the few features that didn't make it from ogsmd to fsogsmd Jul 12 11:41:30 (for AT commands only though, not for ppp stream) Jul 12 11:41:50 and also lindi's beloved watchdog... Jul 12 11:42:49 mrmoku: even if it's the modem misbehaving, how come fsogsmd can stop responding to dbus? Jul 12 11:43:03 PaulFertser: that's another thing indeed Jul 12 11:43:09 it should not :P Jul 12 11:43:35 PaulFertser: that's the whole reason why I wrote my gsm-watchdog. frameworkd just regularly (once a month) went to a state where it did not respond to dbus Jul 12 11:44:04 lindi-: hanging no some futex? Jul 12 11:44:14 PaulFertser: i did report it as a bug Jul 12 11:44:29 lindi-: some bugs are damn hard to debug :/ Jul 12 11:46:50 PaulFertser: indeed. dbus seems to be especially tricky Jul 12 11:47:35 * mickey|bbl can't wait to switch to gdbus Jul 12 11:47:52 oh no Jul 12 11:48:10 oh yes, an entire new implementation that doesn't use libdbus Jul 12 11:48:24 brought to you by the folks who did gio Jul 12 11:49:55 (not to be mixed up with marcell holtmann's gdbus) Jul 12 11:53:29 mickey|bbl: what's stopping you? Jul 12 11:54:36 first, it's not released yet Jul 12 11:54:40 is it in any distro? is it used by any software? ;) Jul 12 11:54:43 2nd, vala support is under construction Jul 12 11:56:23 lindi-: i can understand why you assume that switching to some "new cool whatever" is a wrong way to fix bugs. But damn, some of the problems we face are too strange, and nobody fixes those :/ Jul 12 11:57:43 given the recurring woes we have with libdbus and libdbus-glib... Jul 12 11:58:13 anyways, it's not around the corner and there are more important things to fix, as always Jul 12 11:58:17 mickey|bbl: if only there was a guy who runs debug build of fsogsmd and can attach gdb to it when it stops responding to dbus... But the problem might be hidden well inside glib. Jul 12 11:58:38 And probably attaching after it already stopped responding is too late. Jul 12 11:58:41 PaulFertser: yeah, it would be very interesting to see a backtrace during a halt Jul 12 11:59:37 mickey|bbl: how one can switch to using a debug build? Jul 12 11:59:54 just install the debug symbols afterwards Jul 12 12:00:20 it might help to recompile everything with -O0 though Jul 12 12:00:48 mickey|bbl: it'd be easy if i was using OE. Can you give me a hint on how to do that without? Jul 12 12:01:21 hmm, without Jul 12 12:01:32 compiling everything with -O0 -ggdb Jul 12 12:02:03 injecting CFLAGS='-O0 -ggdb' should do it Jul 12 12:03:31 PaulFertser: well we could go back to using unix socket Jul 12 12:04:02 PaulFertser: for gsmd anyway, maybe you can have something else export the functionality over dbus then Jul 12 12:07:09 mickey|bbl: haha Jul 12 12:08:24 PaulFertser: i didn't understand the question, then Jul 12 12:08:37 lindi-: i want my whole system to be stable, not only gsmd. I do not think like i want to have some redudant knobs (like your answering button) that'd allow me to do some minimal stuff even if the higher level crashed. It's not that kind of system that'd require this approach, imho. Jul 12 12:09:35 mickey|bbl: i thought there's some easy way to ask something to generate those debugging symbols. What you suggest will embed debugging symbols in the binaries, not the same thing that OE does. Jul 12 12:10:36 PaulFertser: ah. i'm afraid i don't know how it actually works behind the scenes Jul 12 12:10:47 someone on #oe might Jul 12 12:11:29 mickey|bbl: i can deduce that on my own too obviously. Just thought you might know a shortcut. Jul 12 12:18:34 PaulFertser: it's done here: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/classes/package.bbclass Jul 12 12:18:48 mickey|bbl: what bothers me is that we faced too many very hardly reproduceable bugs during the fso history. Jul 12 12:20:19 PaulFertser: it builds with debug symbols, then pack them in .debug subdir to -dbg packages and then call strip on binaries and pack those Jul 12 12:20:31 JaMa: mrmoku: thanks :D Jul 12 12:21:39 PaulFertser: yes, me as well. Jul 12 12:24:52 PaulFertser: I am only using gsmd :) Jul 12 12:26:11 PaulFertser: i could use some more eyes looking at the code... Jul 12 12:26:58 and btw. each of the systems fso2 works have their own share of problems Jul 12 12:27:07 hi Jul 12 12:27:17 how do I delete sms under SHR? Jul 12 12:27:23 I tried listing them all Jul 12 12:27:25 no success Jul 12 12:27:29 with mdbus2 Jul 12 12:27:35 GNUtoo|laptop: opimd-cli Jul 12 12:27:37 before there was the all keyword Jul 12 12:27:43 ok thanks Jul 12 12:27:53 that has direct access to sim trough modem? Jul 12 12:28:56 thanks PaulFertser Jul 12 12:29:19 GNUtoo|laptop: SHR uses opimd nowadays, so all the messages are stored there. Jul 12 12:30:00 PaulFertser, I've an htcdream where all the message *have to be buffered on the SIM* Jul 12 12:30:14 and it shows only 3 messages Jul 12 12:30:28 mickey|bbl: i bet gta02 is the only platform that receives enough testing, so probably those problems bothering me can surface on other targets as well. Jul 12 12:31:21 GNUtoo|laptop: probably mickey|bbl's implemented the auto-clear sim when it's full idea? Jul 12 12:31:35 hi mickey|bbl Jul 12 12:32:44 mickey|bbl: and by "enough testing" i meant it took 2 weeks to get feedback from 2 testers about that (quite important) "flowcontrolled" change. :/ Jul 12 12:32:58 *nod* Jul 12 12:33:57 mickey|bbl, how can I view all my messages using mdbus2 ? Jul 12 12:34:09 so I could delete them Jul 12 12:34:42 hmm Jul 12 12:34:48 if you want to delete all, just delete them Jul 12 12:35:05 (with DeleteMessage) Jul 12 12:35:26 listing you can do with RetrieveTextMessages Jul 12 12:39:15 RetrieveTextMessages doesn't support the 'all' argument anymore Jul 12 12:41:57 correc Jul 12 12:42:59 do you need direct SMS access on the SIM? Jul 12 12:43:17 ideally no one should bother with that anymore Jul 12 12:43:22 and only using the higher level API Jul 12 12:43:33 except if you are sending binary SMS Jul 12 12:44:12 mickey|bbl, I just want something that replace the 'all' Jul 12 12:44:20 for the rest I don't know Jul 12 12:44:34 for direct sms Jul 12 12:44:41 because: Jul 12 12:44:44 I power up my phone Jul 12 12:44:54 my sim is already loaded with tons of messages Jul 12 12:44:58 I want to remove them Jul 12 12:45:00 because else Jul 12 12:45:05 it can't receive more messages Jul 12 12:45:17 else I do it with AT commands? Jul 12 12:45:18 ok, but that is very simple Jul 12 12:45:24 DeleteMessage is there Jul 12 12:45:28 ok Jul 12 12:45:58 and RetrieveTextMessages 'all' ? Jul 12 12:46:08 I don't know which ones to delete Jul 12 12:46:15 i thought you want to delete all? Jul 12 12:46:21 nearly all Jul 12 12:46:24 I list all Jul 12 12:46:27 then I grep Jul 12 12:46:31 and delete nearly all Jul 12 12:46:32 sorry Jul 12 12:46:34 mmh Jul 12 12:46:50 or if it's too complicated I delete all Jul 12 12:46:55 and forget about old messages Jul 12 12:47:01 anyway I can't have them on that phone Jul 12 12:47:05 well, someone needs to implement RetrieveMessages then Jul 12 12:47:10 because it wait for an sms signal Jul 12 12:47:15 ok Jul 12 12:47:24 delete ''all'' works? Jul 12 12:47:33 no, just iterate over all slots Jul 12 12:47:42 GetSimInfo will tell you how many you have Jul 12 12:47:42 how do I know the slots? Jul 12 12:47:46 ah nice Jul 12 12:47:53 that was the missing piece Jul 12 12:47:56 thanks a lot!!! Jul 12 12:48:43 slots: 25 Jul 12 12:48:46 that's that? Jul 12 12:48:58 yes Jul 12 12:48:59 I bet so Jul 12 12:49:01 ok Jul 12 12:49:04 thanks a lot Jul 12 12:49:07 np Jul 12 12:49:19 i'm not sure if we want a DeleteAll Jul 12 12:52:42 PaulFertser: hi. Jul 12 12:53:02 gena2x: hey :) Jul 12 12:54:30 PaulFertser: i have one more idea about touchscreen jitter. and want to check it. but first i wanted to consult some hw expert what is propability that my idea of check will fry my freerunner:) Jul 12 12:54:46 thanks a lot Jul 12 12:54:57 mickey|bbl, I don't think we need DeleteAll Jul 12 12:55:12 as loong as we can list all Jul 12 12:55:14 gena2x: ok, i'll tell you what i think. Probably right now, or 2 hours later. Jul 12 12:55:37 PaulFertser: np, i waited for 2 days to check it :) Jul 12 12:57:09 gena2x: so, what's your idea? Jul 12 12:59:54 PaulFertser: so, i'll describe now my idea and everything related: first my last observations, and start waiting for your answer: lcd pixel clock rate influences much touchsreen jitter in interesting way - at 1fps, i can see clean touchscreen data and suppen single high spikes (like 5%-10% fod 1 adc measurement). i were unable to calculate some precise rate of spikes, they are different in fact. with increase of rate, data becamo less and less clear. Jul 12 13:00:29 PaulFertser: basically 1 of 500 measuremnts has such spike. Jul 12 13:01:41 PaulFertser: so (i am not hardware expect) such spikes do not look like interference. and i decided to do quick experiment to check Vref for touchscreen adc coverter. Jul 12 13:02:34 PaulFertser: after looking into schematic, i found that Vref is actually IO_3V3. Jul 12 13:03:25 PaulFertser: i have no oscilloscope to measure actual voltage on that line. Jul 12 13:04:03 PaulFertser: so i came to idea to add some kind of capacitor to IO_3V3 and check wil lthis influente touchscreen jitter somehow. Jul 12 13:05:31 PaulFertser: i see, that IO_3v3 is also at testpad, so easyest way to check would be to solder 2 wires to tespad (GND, and IO_3V3) and solder other ands of that wired to capacitor. Jul 12 13:05:57 PaulFertser: now, my question : will this fry my fr? Jul 12 13:06:11 PaulFertser: is it sounds crazy in general? Jul 12 13:06:35 gena2x: i'd need to check the schematics Jul 12 13:07:16 PaulFertser: and finally, how to find which testpoint represents IO_3V3 (i mean how they enumerated) Jul 12 13:07:19 gena2x: generally adding a capacitance to any power rail shouldn't make bad things happen. Unless it's a really big capacitance that consumes plenty of energy too fast during the charge phase. Jul 12 13:09:48 PaulFertser: i've found some number in schematic for IO_3v3, but how to map that number to actual pad? any other kind or sheme exist. this is comment to my last question. Jul 12 13:10:42 PaulFertser: i can use capacitor for buzz fix. Jul 12 13:11:07 PaulFertser: i have few left Jul 12 13:18:51 larsc: ping Jul 12 13:21:09 larsc: you did s/GLAMO_REG_GPIO_GEN1/GLAMO_GPIO_REG_GEN1/g in drivers/gpio/glamo-gpio.c 6650e90feca03fc8dc46fa4d8234f63377e7b80d, but there is still GLAMO_REG_GPIO_GEN1 in glamo-regs.h (a1a29d40be0ebe43bd26b0c5647e1273b45e9f00) Jul 12 13:21:28 gena2x: PCB pdf Jul 12 13:25:56 PaulFertser: ah, found 'component placement' now. i saw only 'shematics' 'BOM'. Jul 12 13:26:51 gena2x: yep, that's it. Take those in several pdf's, they're searchable. Jul 12 13:27:00 (big thanks to lindi- ! ) Jul 12 13:34:11 PaulFertser: i am lost a bit. only 'test pad' thing in 'cumulative public' is thing labelled 'H-TP_WLAN7901'. Jul 12 13:35:01 PaulFertser: in fact i want almost any 3v3 :) how to find easy one? sorry for stupid questions... Jul 12 13:38:08 larsc: http://gitorious.org/~jama/htc-msm-2-6-32/openmoko-kernel/commit/ed3c21f27f371b8c2f520082d219ba2724cdc46b to build om-gta-2.6.34 HEAD Jul 12 13:39:55 PaulFertser: you may point me to some book to read about schematics if i am missing something important. Jul 12 13:45:43 hey genaman Jul 12 13:47:00 gena2x: do you know how to paste into qterminal? Jul 12 13:47:13 sorry for the slight offtopic-ness Jul 12 13:48:25 badcloud-: i saw your question in #qtmoko, nope, sorry not unsing qterminal :( Jul 12 13:52:14 PaulFertser: ah. i got idea Jul 12 13:52:49 gena2x: ah, thanks. didn't seem like there is much life in #qtmoko now Jul 12 13:53:53 badcloud-: it's ok. summer. Jul 12 13:56:30 gena2x: right, that makes sense Jul 12 13:56:40 gena2x: so you're not a qtmoko user? Jul 12 13:57:23 badcloud-: i am using qtmoko as a phone software. Jul 12 13:57:44 I see Jul 12 14:06:26 gena2x: so how fast does your battery empty out on 533mhz? Jul 12 14:06:33 on average use Jul 12 14:13:51 damn. 35C in forecast... Jul 12 14:14:13 36C here at the moment, it hurts :( Jul 12 14:14:30 at the weekend, 27 people passed out on a train when the aircon broke Jul 12 14:15:02 Weiss: yeah. i've read in news about that train. Jul 12 14:15:20 but 34C is historical absolute maximum for this place. Jul 12 14:16:06 and that maximum accured only 1 day in last 130 years. Jul 12 14:21:54 eek Jul 12 14:24:23 PaulFertser: powered by USB my GPRS was stable for more than 2 hours... with my (fully charged) FR battery fsogsmd hangs after 48 pings :/ Jul 12 14:25:56 * mrmoku tries the fully charged Nokia battery now Jul 12 14:26:01 heh. other power supply problems? so we can somehow get stable GPRS? Jul 12 14:26:41 gena2x: in theory GPRS with current fsogsmd should be rock solid... it's just me having problems :/ Jul 12 14:27:37 mrmoku: hm. i had problems with for example 'plain' gprs - without mux or anything. Jul 12 14:28:08 mrmoku: so, with just a pppd on serial port Jul 12 14:28:22 gena2x: never tried that Jul 12 14:29:17 mrmoku: i had 1) to ping some distant server to keep connection 2) sometimes it failed while heavy traffic. Jul 12 14:31:05 mrmoku: would be nice to have some fix for this... Jul 12 14:31:19 gena2x: on bat or cabled? Jul 12 14:31:50 mrmoku: hm. cabled i think... Jul 12 14:32:07 hmm Jul 12 14:32:41 i thoght all this is known bugs... Jul 12 14:48:37 heh... fun Jul 12 14:48:47 still pinging... and no WS too Jul 12 14:48:56 * mrmoku puzzled Jul 12 14:54:40 gena2x: where did you find the testpoint for IO_3V3? Jul 12 14:54:56 PaulFertser: yeah. i understood i were wrong. Jul 12 14:55:06 gena2x: grab it from the aux button then :) Jul 12 14:56:20 PaulFertser: my idea of adding capacitor is not really 'grab'... but something like 'push' :) Jul 12 14:56:22 gena2x: SW1501 Jul 12 14:56:38 gena2x: no, i mean you can solder to the button's pad i guess. Jul 12 14:56:43 not really checked though. Jul 12 14:57:27 PaulFertser: ok. i'll try to check..... Jul 12 14:57:37 PaulFertser: thanks for suggestion. Jul 12 14:57:54 gena2x: the line is already filtered by 4.7uF, i'm not sure if it's enough. Jul 12 14:58:05 But it would be DAMN funny if not. Jul 12 14:58:50 gena2x: 47u in fact! Jul 12 14:58:56 So it's quite decent. Jul 12 14:59:22 47u + 100n + 100p <-- should be really enough. Jul 12 14:59:43 PaulFertser: just check. nothing will happen if i'll check, yeah? Jul 12 14:59:57 gena2x: if you do it carefully, of course. Jul 12 15:00:34 PaulFertser: i already resoldered aux button without much troubles. Jul 12 15:07:41 hmm... looks like with new kernel there is no gta01_battery module anymore :( Jul 12 15:21:04 mrmoku: platform_battery? Jul 12 15:27:16 PaulFertser: root@om-gta02 ~ # find /lib/modules/ -name \*battery\* Jul 12 15:27:19 returns nothing Jul 12 15:27:25 root@om-gta02 ~ # opkg list |grep battery Jul 12 15:27:29 nothing Jul 12 15:27:53 PaulFertser: probably just needs a small config change Jul 12 15:36:37 PaulFertser: CONFIG_BATTERY_PLATFORM=y Jul 12 15:36:40 it is fixed in Jul 12 15:37:21 PaulFertser: so I just need to unbind the bq27000 ? Jul 12 15:39:30 and bind the platform one... Jul 12 15:39:34 PaulFertser: finally found elctrolitical capacitor marked as 100uF, 50V. Should be ok, yes? - to GND, + to outer pins of AUX button. (found 3.3 on it) Jul 12 15:40:03 PaulFertser: finally found elctrolitical capacitor marked as 100uF, 50V. Should be ok, yes? - to GND, + one of outer pins of AUX button. (found 3.3 on it) Jul 12 15:43:11 gena2x: sure Jul 12 15:43:25 * gena2x praying to soldering god. Jul 12 15:43:55 * gena2x "god, save my lcm and freerunner" Jul 12 15:46:44 Polish Telecom SUCKS Jul 12 15:48:19 Which telecom doesn't? Jul 12 15:52:04 ~lart Polish Telecom Jul 12 15:52:05 * apt rm -rf's Polish Telecom Jul 12 15:54:32 PaulFertser: as platform_battery is your baby :) what to do to activate it after disabling the bq one via unbind? Jul 12 15:54:58 mrmoku: binding should be enough Jul 12 15:55:14 echo 1 > bind? Jul 12 15:55:17 mrmoku: no Jul 12 15:55:33 * mrmoku tried platform_battery.0 too Jul 12 15:55:33 mrmoku: echo platform_battery > bind (probably) Jul 12 15:55:38 ahh :P Jul 12 15:55:40 PaulFertser: thanks Jul 12 15:55:44 mrmoku: did it work? :-O Jul 12 15:56:37 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07geekogotchi * raae9ad96bd61 10/geekogotchi_server: server: don't fail if can't send message to opimd Jul 12 15:56:38 hmm... no Jul 12 15:56:42 PaulFertser: did not work Jul 12 15:56:47 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-installer * r193c5628ca75 10/shr-installer: Implement upgrading packages Jul 12 15:56:58 SHR: 03seba.dos1 07shr-installer * r26c914bb438b 10/TODO: update TODO Jul 12 15:57:07 PaulFertser: nothing in dmesg and no battery in power_supply Jul 12 15:58:11 mrmoku: should be something like ``echo platform-battery.0 > /sys/bus/platform/drivers/platform-battery/bind Jul 12 15:58:29 mrmoku: with dash Jul 12 15:59:11 PaulFertser: still no go Jul 12 16:03:44 mrmoku: sorry. Probably some platform glue missing. Jul 12 16:03:53 PaulFertser: ok Jul 12 16:04:34 * mrmoku off for dinner Jul 12 16:15:45 done. Jul 12 16:15:54 fingers crossed... Jul 12 16:17:52 phee. booting... Jul 12 16:26:02 mickey|bbl: hi Jul 12 16:26:19 does anyone know the state of our calendar suite? Jul 12 16:26:26 whats already functional? Jul 12 17:10:07 JaMa: thanks, applied Jul 12 17:11:03 JaMa: hi Jul 12 17:11:13 do you know details about the calendar stuff in SHR? Jul 12 17:11:17 how far are we? Jul 12 17:11:35 I'm building ATM images Jul 12 17:11:44 for htcuniversal, htcdream and gta02 Jul 12 17:11:49 for evaluation Jul 12 17:11:52 ^^ Jul 12 17:12:00 leviathan: no gui part... dunno about the FSO part Jul 12 17:12:24 hmm Jul 12 17:12:41 is there an interface documentation somewhere? Jul 12 17:12:52 so that I could create some basics using elementary? Jul 12 17:13:11 we should reconsider the actual gui stuff anyway Jul 12 17:13:23 perhaps we could pimp the shr dialer with elementary buttons e.g. Jul 12 17:13:38 would look nicer (just my opinion) Jul 12 17:14:01 in the same turn, we could also take a look on some still static sized buttons on some places Jul 12 17:14:05 (e.g. settings( Jul 12 17:14:07 ) Jul 12 17:15:39 leviathan: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.PIM.Date.html;hb=HEAD Jul 12 17:15:53 might be outdated though... still having GetUsedBackends Jul 12 17:16:45 TAsn: ping... what is the state of org.freesmartphone.PIM.Date(s) in opimd? Jul 12 17:22:36 TAsn: would be cool to have some infos Jul 12 17:22:51 perhaps also information about possible already existing projects Jul 12 17:23:06 it knowone knows, if theres already a gui project running Jul 12 17:23:20 I'll ask google, before starting hacking Jul 12 17:23:22 :-) Jul 12 17:24:34 Heinervdm: IIRC you've been involved with opimd calendar? Jul 12 17:24:34 While trying to load NAND menu with u-boot, what does a AUX led blinking (1 second) means ? Jul 12 17:25:07 mrmoku: there is one thing missing in Dates Jul 12 17:25:46 mrmoku: i wanted to add a function to automatically add a timer Jul 12 17:25:55 that thing is currently missing Jul 12 17:26:12 i have a patch, but i had no time to test it Jul 12 17:27:18 my problem with the gui is, that i'm waiting for the elementary calendar widget from morphis Jul 12 17:29:23 Heinervdm: heh... I remember :P Jul 12 17:29:32 and then morphis got his palm pre ;) Jul 12 17:29:36 yes Jul 12 17:30:25 Heinervdm: maybe somebody else has to continue it then... or didn't he start? Jul 12 17:30:44 he has a functional version Jul 12 17:31:52 is it in svn or on his harddisk? Jul 12 17:32:07 mrmoku: http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr-git/python-elementary_add-calendar-widget.patch Jul 12 17:32:18 i think only on his hd Jul 12 17:32:29 but i have a verision too Jul 12 17:32:42 ups that's the wrong patch Jul 12 17:32:58 http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr-git/elementary_add-calendar-widget.patch Jul 12 17:33:20 ouch... wrong window :P Jul 12 17:36:04 mrmoku, natural, nothing interesting. Jul 12 17:36:10 opim is just a data manager Jul 12 17:37:06 This is my untested patch for opimd: http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr-git/0001-opimd-dates-add-alarm-handler.patch Jul 12 17:37:37 Heinervdm: times out for me Jul 12 17:38:14 Heinervdm, I'm still unsure if it's opimd job to do alarms Jul 12 17:38:18 it may be is. Jul 12 17:38:21 maybe* Jul 12 17:38:24 not sure though ;P Jul 12 17:38:31 TAsn: just was wondering... because there is still a GetUsedBackends method ;) Jul 12 17:38:45 TAsn: i discussed this with mickey on FOSDEM Jul 12 17:38:52 and he agreed :) Jul 12 17:38:59 Heinervdm, then it's settled :P Jul 12 17:39:21 mrmoku, you can see it's highly tested :P Jul 12 17:39:29 :P Jul 12 17:40:29 hmm, my dyndns account is really old... Jul 12 17:40:37 Heinervdm, so it seems Jul 12 17:40:44 your link doesn't work :P Jul 12 17:41:43 my router hasen't updated the ip properly today.. Jul 12 17:41:58 but now it should work Jul 12 17:42:14 Heinervdm: yep works, thanks :) Jul 12 17:46:13 Heinervdm, either I'm blind/stupid/tired or all of the above Jul 12 17:46:21 but I can't see any time related code Jul 12 17:46:47 where is "alarm" implemented at? Jul 12 17:47:29 Alarm should be set by the client Jul 12 17:47:52 and if it's set a alarm in org.freesmartphone.Time.Alarm is created Jul 12 17:48:03 but i think, that needs to be updated Jul 12 17:48:18 because now we have fsotdld Jul 12 17:48:27 and that code was for otimed Jul 12 17:48:53 Heinervdm: interesting... Jul 12 17:48:57 ~seen morphis Jul 12 17:48:58 morphis <~morphis@p5489B196.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 10d 22h 59m 52s ago, saying: 'heyho'. Jul 12 17:49:07 hmm... on holiday :P Jul 12 17:49:59 my problem with testing is that the alarm will call a dbus interface Jul 12 17:50:27 and i had no idea how to write one Jul 12 17:51:56 Heinervdm, oh, yeah, should be updated. Jul 12 17:52:02 That's what I was missing from your patch :P Jul 12 17:52:07 Anyhow, I'm off. Jul 12 17:52:14 the calendar app has to imlement this: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Notification.html;hb=HEAD#Alarm Jul 12 17:52:23 no yeah, got it. Jul 12 17:52:25 :) Jul 12 17:52:45 If i have some time i will look at it again Jul 12 18:19:38 if i connect stereo speakers with a 3 pin stereo jack to gta02 using SHR-u i hear 1 channel Jul 12 18:20:09 how can i get stereo? Jul 12 18:22:56 Hum_: first thing is to use correct pinout. Jul 12 18:23:19 Hum_: it's on the wiki, and also (non-surprisingly) specified in schematics. Jul 12 18:24:04 PaulFertser: can you tell me the page? I'm sorry Jul 12 18:24:42 Hum_: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:wiki.openmoko.org+headset+pinout&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 gives an obvious result Jul 12 18:25:26 thx Jul 12 18:28:00 Hum_: if you are going to listen to the music, you probably might need Bass rework Jul 12 18:29:26 PaulFertser: i got a buzz rework and another rework was done, too Jul 12 18:29:44 PaulFertser: I am not at home, so can't tell you details from paper Jul 12 18:29:55 Hum_: ok Jul 12 18:31:52 leviathan: no idea about calendar, ping dos Jul 12 19:07:31 JaMa: WS is fixed for me :-) Jul 12 19:07:49 JaMa: on unblank I see a short flicker... but no WS Jul 12 19:08:13 mrmoku: by what? Jul 12 19:08:16 PaulFertser: without working platform_battery... does it charge it anyway? Jul 12 19:08:23 mrmoku: sure Jul 12 19:08:23 PaulFertser: dunno Jul 12 19:08:26