**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 15 02:59:57 2010 Aug 15 07:27:23 hmm this 2.6.34 power bug really sucks Aug 15 07:29:59 and it sucks that after 3 years freerunner stuff is still not in mainline Aug 15 07:31:03 if i could bisect it would be easy, but this way it's impossible Aug 15 07:31:39 after 2 days of testing my rootfs is corrupted and i dont think i have energy to continue... Aug 15 07:32:42 :( Aug 15 07:33:34 2.6.29 forever? Aug 15 07:34:43 Windows XP is 10 years old and still most used operating system, so maybe it's not that bad to have 2 years old kernel Aug 15 07:36:17 hmm so this looks even more interesting - even FAT with all my data on SD card is gone Aug 15 07:40:23 radekp: i'm sure any kernel hacker motivated to get userspace working will manage that with 2.6.34 in considerable time. Aug 15 07:40:36 radekp: strange, very strange. i'm on .34 for several months, and had no such accasions. Aug 15 07:41:50 radekp: probably that's the card itself failed? It happens sometimes... Aug 15 07:41:58 hmm at least the data is not lost - tried the SD card on USB reader on my PC and it works now Aug 15 07:41:59 i mean exclusively on sd card (.29 & qtmoko on my nand) Aug 15 07:42:35 sometimes some strange thing happens with sd card here. Aug 15 07:42:43 it stops working on boot. Aug 15 07:42:59 but i had that once. Aug 15 07:46:26 heh, only 2 days... i understanded bluetooth and touchscreen for weeks each. Aug 15 07:50:27 i know it's not much - but its like 50% of time i had in last month Aug 15 07:52:05 finally i have kernel and rootfs that work :) Aug 15 07:52:45 eh... Aug 15 07:53:20 i can remind - touchscreen, sound is qustinable, i guess also many patches missing. Aug 15 07:54:10 i have sound ok with 2.6.34, and touchscreen is definitely usable Aug 15 07:54:51 nice. Aug 15 07:55:00 you can see the jitter in painting program, but for making calls it is really ok Aug 15 07:55:18 for big buttons it's not problem Aug 15 07:55:41 maybe we could try some tslib filtering? Aug 15 07:55:51 if you feel fine with default driver... i have hacky patch to fix jitter Aug 15 07:56:18 nice, i will be glad to test Aug 15 07:56:37 for me the biggest problem is power Aug 15 07:57:17 with 2.6.29 i have finally phone that lasts 4 days Aug 15 07:57:51 mine can't resume with gsm call reliably :((( Aug 15 07:58:02 i mean with qtmokov24 Aug 15 07:58:04 having only half with 2.6.34 is too big regression - i cant use it as daily phone Aug 15 07:58:56 and if i dont use it, i cant do support and fix bug and it's not funny to maintain something that you dont actually use Aug 15 07:59:23 hmm strange - i never had problems with suspend Aug 15 07:59:27 i want to take small rest from kernel, if noone will solve this before i'll back to kernel, i'll try to fix this. Aug 15 08:00:05 yeah. i retested this Aug 15 08:01:12 just suspend, get other phone, called, got nothing. Aug 15 08:01:29 i had to restart qt to get gsm back. Aug 15 08:01:38 after that i had to disable suspend. Aug 15 08:02:10 have you tried with fresh qtmoko image and qtmoko kernel? Aug 15 08:02:23 and on NAND or on SD card? Aug 15 08:02:38 i am using qtmoko only with qtmoko kernel and only on nand. Aug 15 08:03:41 but this were may be month ago, i were also moving, may be this were related somehow to loosing signal. Aug 15 08:03:51 now i even unsure on detail. Aug 15 08:03:57 oki Aug 15 08:27:07 strange thing is that 2.6.34 takes much more mA when running from NAND Aug 15 08:27:37 on SD it's ~20mA on NAND it's ~70mA Aug 15 08:29:22 maybe it can be loader Aug 15 08:29:26 * radekp checks Aug 15 08:29:43 i mean it can be different bootloader Aug 15 08:29:58 kernel parameters? Aug 15 08:36:17 can be - i used uboot for booting NAND and qi for SD Aug 15 08:36:48 i hope you not using nor uboot? Aug 15 08:36:56 i am ;-) Aug 15 08:37:17 but i can also use qi Aug 15 08:41:28 radekp: nor uboot is not to be used for booting Aug 15 08:41:37 radekp: it doesn't properly initialize hardware Aug 15 08:41:54 oki, i'll retry with qi Aug 15 09:15:01 hi mickeyl Aug 15 09:15:05 for GPS I could do it Aug 15 09:15:11 because it's mostly C Aug 15 09:15:25 what I don't want to touch is vala+fso specific things Aug 15 09:15:28 but C is fine Aug 15 09:27:15 leviathan: hi, can you prepare recipe for sbcl(-native) or whatever is needed for maxima to build? Aug 15 09:36:57 mickeyl, good news about gps: check that: Aug 15 09:37:05 http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/libhardware_legacy Aug 15 09:37:08 in gps dir Aug 15 09:37:21 there is an android library for the gps Aug 15 09:37:22 so... Aug 15 09:37:24 we should adapt that one Aug 15 10:44:10 JaMa|GoNe: I can try Aug 15 10:44:25 mickeyl, ping Aug 15 11:00:47 leviathan: with clisp installed on buildhost: http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/armv4t/maxima_5.21.1-r0.5_armv4t.ipk Aug 15 11:38:20 JaMa|GoNe: hmm, did it build trought and gave a arm4 binary? Aug 15 11:43:12 leviathan: yes Aug 15 12:01:26 hmm, ok Aug 15 12:51:07 Hi there Aug 15 12:51:18 I'm trying to upgrade fsogsmd from source Aug 15 12:51:24 I'm getting this error: Aug 15 12:51:26 src/plugins/dbus_service/plugin.vala:40.5-40.32: error: The type name `FreeSmartphone.GSM.VoiceMail' could not be found Aug 15 12:51:37 Any clue what I may be missing? Aug 15 13:29:55 McKael: make sure you have uptodate fso-specs and libfso-glib Aug 15 13:30:41 I rebuilt them... Aug 15 13:30:46 I'll check one more time Aug 15 14:19:15 McKael: fso-specs 519ed3a3dead15cbc223c662d03bee2cb613cd63 is what you need Aug 15 14:19:25 (and a rebuild of libfso-glib against that) Aug 15 15:08:04 hi mickeyl Aug 15 15:34:25 mickeyl: I had actually forgotten libfso-glib, thanks :) Aug 15 15:36:03 <[Rui]> is shr-u repo in an upgradable state? Aug 15 15:39:13 <[Rui]> oops, sent poweroff in the wrong shell window :) Aug 15 15:39:31 <[Rui]> so, is shr-u repo in an upgradable state? :) Aug 15 15:43:56 [Rui], I don't know but I upgraded recently Aug 15 15:45:44 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: :) what I meant to know is if by upgrading I'd get a broken phone :) specially considering there were some troubles at the buildhost, IIRC Aug 15 15:45:59 ok Aug 15 15:46:26 there is not a lot of people here Aug 15 15:46:31 I need mickeyl Aug 15 16:12:25 mickeyl, ping Aug 15 16:33:19 <[Rui]> hms... seems the jpeg loader in evas is broken on the current efl of shr-u Aug 15 17:01:12 <[Rui]> well, "receiving call UI" is borked: white text on almost white background; reject call didn't work (at least accepting works...) Aug 15 17:19:07 <[Rui]> it's possible that it's gry which is borked Aug 15 17:27:31 [Rui]: efl wasn't bumped yet (it's waiting in my queue with eve) Aug 15 17:28:18 [Rui]: and recent gry changes were only to elementary-theme IIRC so probably shouldn't change phoneui theming, but I'm not sure how interconnected those 2 themes are :/ Aug 15 17:41:07 gnutoo: pong Aug 15 17:41:42 mickeyl, I've only 15min but phh wrote a gps lib Aug 15 17:41:48 basically we only need to do that: Aug 15 17:41:50 take the lib Aug 15 17:41:55 add our values Aug 15 17:42:01 from the "main.c" Aug 15 17:42:05 or gps Aug 15 17:42:07 binary Aug 15 17:42:13 and autotoolize it Aug 15 17:44:30 hmm, where's the difference to what we did? Aug 15 17:44:59 is this new library encapsulating android-rpc stuff completely, thus not needing it as a seperate library? Aug 15 17:46:41 mickeyl, look at it: it's here: Aug 15 17:47:17 oops I'm under vpn Aug 15 17:48:48 http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/libhardware_legacy/blobs/master/gps/gps-rpc.c Aug 15 17:48:56 mickeyl, your encapsulation makes the phone reboot Aug 15 17:49:07 his encapsulation seem better Aug 15 17:49:14 code seem more clear Aug 15 17:49:15 etc... Aug 15 17:49:41 also...he told me that he went until sleep of 1 sec whit this code Aug 15 17:49:48 hmm Aug 15 17:49:49 I went until 3 with ours Aug 15 17:49:55 s/ours/the one we used Aug 15 17:49:57 still needs the librpc library as far as i can see Aug 15 17:50:05 indeed that's for android Aug 15 17:50:11 but look at source code Aug 15 17:50:19 it seem a lot more understandable Aug 15 17:51:07 do we have /sys/class/htc_hw/amss? Aug 15 17:51:25 still needs to be sed'ed then Aug 15 17:55:21 is your phone rebooting right from the start or only when you request the resource? Aug 15 17:55:40 yes Aug 15 17:55:55 you add the [config] and it reboots endlessly Aug 15 17:56:04 that is very strange Aug 15 17:56:10 i can't see how that can happen from the code Aug 15 17:56:17 it does nothing until the resource is actually activated Aug 15 17:57:01 hmmm Aug 15 17:57:04 I don't know Aug 15 17:57:07 I could look too Aug 15 17:57:11 when I'll have time Aug 15 17:57:24 but I'm only good at fixing autotools issues Aug 15 17:57:32 not at converting an android thing to autotools Aug 15 17:58:18 i'd like to find the root cause before switching to yet another library Aug 15 17:58:28 if the problem is in android-rpc, we will still have it Aug 15 17:58:35 since we still need it even with his new lib Aug 15 17:59:00 ah ok Aug 15 17:59:27 btw about your htcdream,since the other dev declined, Aug 15 17:59:37 do you use it? Aug 15 17:59:43 I mean do you test things Aug 15 17:59:50 I don't need it now at all Aug 15 17:59:57 no, i can't use it for anything, since i can't flash it Aug 15 18:00:00 for gps I can chroot Aug 15 18:00:06 why can't you flash it? Aug 15 18:00:07 it's not jailbroken, it's locked Aug 15 18:00:11 ah ok Aug 15 18:00:54 basically the rootfs is locked Aug 15 18:00:58 but you can still fastboot Aug 15 18:01:09 no, how? Aug 15 18:01:19 the default boot loader is not caring about fastboot Aug 15 18:01:38 ??? Aug 15 18:01:48 how did you do developements with it then Aug 15 18:01:53 not at all Aug 15 18:01:56 we're talking about my g1 Aug 15 18:01:59 not my adp1 Aug 15 18:02:31 the adp1 i will not give away :) Aug 15 18:04:29 ahh Aug 15 18:04:33 nice Aug 15 18:04:36 you have 2 phones Aug 15 18:04:42 I didn't remember that Aug 15 18:04:54 * mrmoku is sure mickeyl has more than 2 phones :P Aug 15 18:05:00 nah ;) Aug 15 18:05:00 indeed Aug 15 18:05:11 I meant 2 htcdream/g1 Aug 15 18:06:39 i initially bought the g1 but lost complete interest after seeing how hard it is to jailbreak Aug 15 18:06:58 luckily i got the adp1 later Aug 15 18:09:48 ok Aug 15 18:12:46 bye Aug 15 18:14:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7432297169ac 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/htcdream_powercontrol/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: htcdream_powercontrol: debug++ Aug 15 18:20:08 [Rui], hey, any idea which package gives JSON dependency for elmdentica in archlinux? Aug 15 18:21:17 json-c ? Aug 15 18:24:25 yeah, that one was needed. had to compile it with aur Aug 15 18:56:18 good evening Aug 15 18:56:25 i'm trying to create a recipe for libiw30 Aug 15 18:56:44 but i can't find where wireless-tools_29.bb takes the version (29) Aug 15 18:57:05 from the recipe file name? Aug 15 18:59:12 mmm Aug 15 19:00:47 hi Deubeuliou Aug 15 19:01:01 any progress with nexusone Aug 15 19:01:06 ? Aug 15 19:02:01 I must go,bye Aug 15 19:03:45 daniele_athome: yep, the version comes automatically from the filename Aug 15 19:03:58 mrmoku, yes i see, anyway the archive doesn't exists Aug 15 19:04:00 *exist Aug 15 19:04:15 mrmoku, vga rotation goes wsod, did you know that? Aug 15 19:04:24 with latest shr-u Aug 15 19:04:32 i can't use my keyboard any more :( :( :( Aug 15 19:08:07 daniele_athome: last time I played with rotation is more than 1 year ago :P Aug 15 19:08:34 daniele_athome: you should talk with Weiss about that Aug 15 19:08:36 do you still use illume keyboard in portrait mode mrmoku ? Aug 15 19:08:39 daniele_athome: how do you rotate? Aug 15 19:08:42 daniele_athome: sure ;) Aug 15 19:08:44 mrmoku, xrandr Aug 15 19:09:07 * mrmoku tries Aug 15 19:09:14 lol Aug 15 19:09:29 mrmoku, prepare for slow (white screen of) death :P Aug 15 19:09:34 heh Aug 15 19:09:41 yeah slowly shifting into the white :) Aug 15 19:09:45 hihi Aug 15 19:10:02 mrmoku, same for qvga Aug 15 19:10:12 * mrmoku reboots :;P Aug 15 19:10:17 :) Aug 15 19:30:46 betheg: wow, does that srctree thing really work that way? great :D Aug 15 19:31:15 PaulF: just traced the outline of an aerial photography marker using GPS: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/gps/experiment/4/screenshot4.png Aug 15 19:31:56 you can see it in http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/photos.py?zoom=4&x=10&y=3&fover=3&onerr=2&panoid=RSxfMPWW8_pAMUQxKz4G3Q in real life Aug 15 19:33:45 betheg: applied, thanks Aug 15 19:33:48 SHR: 03betheg 07shr-makefile * refc097db2abc 10/Makefile: Makefile: use srctree to build from a local source tree Aug 15 19:44:03 lindi-: wow, that looks like quite a precision Aug 15 19:44:58 PaulF: yes. next I need to figure out how good accuracy is Aug 15 19:47:59 <[Rui]> pespin: sorry, I wasn't exactly here :) Aug 15 19:48:15 <[Rui]> pespin: I see you found it, but it indeed is that library *however* Aug 15 19:48:48 <[Rui]> pespin: there is an API breaking patch I did (I'm in talks with Michael Clark for a better patch so it's integrated without API change), so be noted :) Aug 15 19:49:43 <[Rui]> pespin: without that patch, any twitter usage is impossible (irrelevant from tonight onwards) and possibly already so in identi.ca as well (integers already go beyond MAX_INT) Aug 15 19:53:49 [Rui], so shall I patch the code? I'm only planning to use it with identi.ca, but if you are going to set it in soon, I'll probably wait for you to do it :) Aug 15 19:54:26 <[Rui]> pespin: for now you should, I was going to work on it this weekend but I've a sinus attack making it difficult to do things properly Aug 15 19:55:06 [Rui], where can I find it? Aug 15 19:55:10 JaMa|GoNe, mrmoku: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/eglibc-dbg_2.12-r11.3+svnr11187.5_armv4t.ipk Aug 15 19:55:15 <[Rui]> pespin: today I will submit a patch (hopefully by 00:00:00 GMT as closely as I can) to *remove* explicit twitter support :) Aug 15 19:55:17 why is it 102MB? Aug 15 19:55:41 <[Rui]> pespin: you have an SHR-u buildroot with you? Aug 15 19:59:33 dos1: might be due to using -ggdb3 now Aug 15 19:59:52 dos1: which is workarounding the alignment traps Aug 15 19:59:56 ~hail JaMa|GoNe Aug 15 19:59:57 * apt bows down to JaMa|GoNe and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 15 20:00:24 yeah, but I have ~70MB free on rootfs ;x Aug 15 20:00:36 heh, that might be problematic :P Aug 15 20:00:37 and quite slow internet connection :P Aug 15 20:01:18 [Rui], just wanting to use elmdentica on my desktop atm :) Aug 15 20:01:34 <[Rui]> pespin: lol, it's not so great for that :) Aug 15 20:02:25 <[Rui]> pespin: I just added direct messaging support, albeit you still need to have a person in your timeline in order to send it a DM Aug 15 20:03:01 <[Rui]> pespin: so it's easy to reply to DMs and make DMs to people in the list, but making to a new id... it's still to come :) Aug 15 20:03:27 [Rui], elmdentica is enough for my needs jeje, don't use much identi.ca, and it fits my E desktop :) Aug 15 20:03:57 mrmoku, did you give eve a try? Aug 15 20:04:19 TAsn-Laptop: no... stopped at updating efl :P Aug 15 20:04:28 [Rui], btw, are you an e devel? I'm having an error compiling last e rev from svn Aug 15 20:04:34 that's a scary operation no doubt about that. Aug 15 20:04:52 pespin, what error? Aug 15 20:05:02 I compiled latest e a couple of hours ago. Aug 15 20:05:19 e_randr.o: In function `_e_randr_config_find_suiting_config_11': e_randr.c:(.text+0x1e29): undefined reference to `e_config' Aug 15 20:05:20 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Aug 15 20:05:41 * mrmoku off to bed Aug 15 20:05:43 gnight all Aug 15 20:05:47 TAsn, can you tell me your rev? Aug 15 20:06:07 mrmoku, gnight :) Aug 15 20:06:49 pespin, IIRC just before cedric's commit. Aug 15 20:06:57 There was only 1 commit to e today Aug 15 20:07:06 (e the wm, not the libs) Aug 15 20:07:12 yeah Aug 15 20:07:16 all the libs compiled fine Aug 15 20:07:17 so before that. Aug 15 20:07:23 what's the error? Aug 15 20:07:39 TAsn, ^ pasted it here Aug 15 20:07:47 oh sorry :P Aug 15 20:07:49 :P Aug 15 20:08:05 hm.. the commit was about e_randr Aug 15 20:08:20 is there a newer commit? (before I bug the devs) Aug 15 20:08:27 nop Aug 15 20:08:32 pespin, know what? #edevelop come :P Aug 15 20:08:36 just svn updated and nothing came in Aug 15 20:08:54 TAsn, I tried in #e, but they are arguing about network ISP and such :P Aug 15 20:09:01 come to #edevelop Aug 15 20:09:10 ok, I'm in :) Aug 15 20:09:16 just sent a message there. Aug 15 20:09:49 yep Aug 15 20:15:30 <[Rui]> pespin: I should see how to add a few keyboard shortcuts, then :) it could use that for desktop use :) Aug 15 20:15:55 <[Rui]> pespin: I have commit rights in e tree, but I'm a *way* junior e devel :) Aug 15 20:16:25 <[Rui]> pespin: I mostly center my attention in elmdentica, and did a thing or two to help here and there :) Aug 15 20:16:46 [Rui], ok :) Aug 15 20:17:41 <[Rui]> pespin: weird, that e_config reference... Aug 15 20:18:56 trying to clean it all and rebuilding to see if it's gone Aug 15 20:19:17 <[Rui]> pespin: is it a recent efl ? Aug 15 20:20:14 [Rui], last rev Aug 15 20:20:17 from svn Aug 15 21:17:25 hi guys, the freerunner is running at 400 mhz currently with 83 mhz or? they overclocked work will speed it up to 500 / 88 mhz. does the 88mhz bus speed means that the glamo can receive more data from the cpu? Aug 15 21:18:06 will there be a Qi version of the overclocked bootloader? the small overclocks can be used without changing the kernel, just usinga different bootloader or? Aug 15 22:35:39 2.6.35: CONFIG_N_GSM This line discipline provides support for the GSM MUX protocol and presents the mux as a set of 61 individual tty devices. Aug 15 22:35:49 Does it somehow connected/usefull for us? Aug 15 22:36:54 max_posedon: possibly Aug 15 22:37:01 if it is unbuggy Aug 15 22:39:58 _and_ if it's suitable for buggy devices Aug 16 00:23:08 some lolz for all: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Eagle114th/humor%20animations/LOTR1.gif Aug 16 00:23:12 very fzbby Aug 16 00:23:19 funny **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 16 02:59:56 2010