**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 16 02:59:56 2010 Aug 16 04:48:53 hehe, CONFIG_N_GSM vs gsm0710muxd/abyss/whatever. Aug 16 04:49:09 My money is on FSO :-D Aug 16 04:50:32 btw for N900 CONFIG_N_GSM won't probably fly Aug 16 04:52:17 as there's not a single tty to talk to cellmo, you need to use a kinky program called pnatd to do via phonet lib what mickeyterm does via tty Aug 16 04:54:07 so unless libphonet or whatever it's called goes kernel+mainstream, there's probably few chances for CONFIG_N_GSM with BB5 Rapuyama modem Aug 16 04:55:54 ofono as designated successor of phonet also doesn't sound like a kernel component. And I'm unsure about mickeyl's plans to move abyss into kernel Aug 16 07:16:43 DocScrutinizer: i can clarify a little. Aug 16 07:17:07 DocScrutinizer: n900 needs kernel driver to talk to the modem, and it's mainline. Called phonet and some related shit. Aug 16 07:17:32 DocScrutinizer: but the modem itself uses some undocumented binary protocol called ISI. Aug 16 07:18:14 DocScrutinizer: fortunately, ofono's sources are reasonably sane and can be used as a partial guide. Aug 16 07:27:02 A GSoC student from russia implements proper cli tools for bluetooth: http://code.google.com/p/bluez-tools/ . lindi- , are you interested in testing? ;) Aug 16 07:27:33 PaulF: maybe. but I got really bad headaches from my last try Aug 16 07:27:58 lindi-: the last try of this particular software? Aug 16 07:28:15 PaulF: of bluez4 dbus api using python scripts copy&pasted from wiki Aug 16 07:28:57 lindi-: hm, i kinda liked bluez4 api, it seemed to be sane and easy. Aug 16 07:29:19 lindi-: with e.g. d-feet one can easily do most of the common tasks. Aug 16 07:29:30 aieee... Aug 16 07:32:28 lindi-: the code for those new cli tools is at http://gitorious.org/bluez-tools Aug 16 07:34:01 PaulF: some EXAMPLES sections would help the manual pages Aug 16 07:34:34 PaulF: I'll write him email Aug 16 07:34:49 lindi-: ok, thanks :) Aug 16 07:35:24 lindi-: i'm not anyhow related, just remembered you wanted some nice cli tools and this seems to be an opportunity to get those the way you like. Aug 16 11:11:58 mrmoku|away: i have tested it with mdbus2 and it was build in the local srctree:) only the SRCREV=AUTOREV is not so good i think mmh? Aug 16 11:20:00 mdbus2 doesn't compile anymore? Aug 16 11:29:02 playya_: it does compile it was only a srctree.bbclass test for me Aug 16 11:45:30 mickey|office: in case raster won't update all libs/apps in efl automatically, can you update eina dependency in libeflvala? Aug 16 11:46:11 mickey|office: something like http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/51162, it looks for eina-0 which is gone Aug 16 12:11:12 JaMa: sure, asap or at a certain time? Aug 16 12:28:48 mickey|office: when you have some spare time.. Aug 16 13:06:44 hi :> Aug 16 13:08:12 JaMa, you think you could compile a htcleo shr-image with the recent metadata ? (Xorg fix) Aug 16 13:10:20 JaMa, or better, pastebin your local.conf you used to successfully compile shr for htcleo Aug 16 13:10:35 JaMa, that would be nice Aug 16 13:11:41 have to run but I will be reading scrollback Aug 16 13:11:42 bye Aug 16 13:14:06 dcordes: there is nothing special in local.conf I used (just changed MACHINE) Aug 16 13:14:27 JaMa: ok could you check over my conf to see if it's good ? Aug 16 13:14:38 dcordes: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/250869/ Aug 16 13:14:47 yes Aug 16 13:15:25 JaMa: http://pastebin.ca/1918117 Aug 16 13:16:47 JaMa: I see you do not have any autorev enabled Aug 16 13:18:03 hi dcordes Aug 16 13:18:10 hi mickey Aug 16 13:18:16 how's it going ? Aug 16 13:24:44 dcordes: pretty good, enjoying my life a bit :) Aug 16 13:49:16 dcordes: shr-autorev is included in shr.conf Aug 16 14:05:02 mickey|office: can you please teach me some of that skill? ;) Aug 16 14:06:05 :) Aug 16 14:12:26 PaulF: hehe, yeah, sometimes you have to rediscover this Aug 16 14:33:17 JaMa: hey, i've just bought something similar to http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=20625 and going to buy http://www.mag-russia.ru/p-vertigo_pro.htm (or a bit better). Should that make me happy? ;) Aug 16 14:39:41 PaulF: yup it should! :) Aug 16 14:41:00 JaMa: it will the most expensive shoes i've ever had, and ironically one can't really walk in them (to not damage the plastic cleats). Aug 16 14:58:23 heh Aug 16 14:58:33 * mickey|office going to buy a bicycle soon Aug 16 15:04:57 PaulF, you should go on holidays. that should make you happy :) Aug 16 15:06:01 and an important fact: make some nice pictures. everytime you view them afterwards the trip gets better and better Aug 16 15:09:31 lindi-: c&p of particularly python sourcecode from particularly wiki is probably prone to give you headache, as python has this stupid thing called (by me) format aware syntax, and wiki tends to mess with whitespace and tabs Aug 16 15:11:01 I guess only whitespace (the coding language) could be more cumbersome for c&p from wiki :-P Aug 16 15:14:45 136M libc.a Aug 16 15:15:14 on my desktop it's 2,9M /usr/lib/libc.a Aug 16 15:15:21 WTF? Aug 16 15:15:25 JaMa: ^^^ Aug 16 15:16:10 dos1: as mrmoku said it's -ggdb3 and eglibc-static is probably not stripped (it's the same with Angstrom) Aug 16 15:16:57 JaMa: eglibc-static? Aug 16 15:18:19 JaMa: i don't think libc.a which takes half of all available NAND space is good idea :x Aug 16 15:19:40 PaulF: btw this is my bike -> http://www.azub.eu/CZ/recumbent-bike-azub-max/ Aug 16 15:20:34 dos1: do you prefer alignment traps? Aug 16 15:20:42 JaMa: on gta01 it's even all of available space Aug 16 15:21:13 then someone should fix gcc soon Aug 16 15:31:02 JaMa: well, with aligment traps i was able to upgrade :P Aug 16 15:31:34 now i can't, as rootfs gets full Aug 16 15:33:23 dos1: then remove libc6-dev Aug 16 15:33:49 and eglibc-dbg Aug 16 15:33:56 JaMa: i have both removed ;P Aug 16 15:34:41 so why do you have /usr/lib/libc.a ? Aug 16 15:38:04 hmm Aug 16 15:38:11 that seems to be good question Aug 16 15:38:14 some another opkg bug? Aug 16 15:39:07 opkg search /usr/lib/libc.a doesn't show anything? Aug 16 15:39:22 maybe if it failed during upgrade.. Aug 16 15:39:32 because of full rootfs.. Aug 16 15:40:06 opks search shows nothing Aug 16 15:53:27 playya__: (pictures) every time i'd be looking at them i'd think about bad camera/composition/colouring/my artistic abilities etc. Aug 16 15:54:44 radekp: holy crap! Trying a recumbent with an underseat steering is one of my unrealised dreams :-O Aug 16 15:56:55 radekp: not so usual for e recumbent geometry Aug 16 16:36:11 hi mickey|office Aug 16 16:36:26 any progress on GPS Aug 16 16:36:31 ? Aug 16 16:37:43 as I'm on hollidays,doing some sport etc...I've some difficulties finding the time to contribute Aug 16 16:38:52 same here Aug 16 16:38:58 although more motivation-related than time :) Aug 16 16:39:14 i have added some debug code to the htcdream powercontrol Aug 16 16:39:15 ok Aug 16 16:39:25 nice Aug 16 16:39:28 would be interesting to see the output before it reboots Aug 16 16:40:01 I bet I should move the logs to sdcard rather than ram to know when it fails Aug 16 16:42:02 mickey|office: should I do a cool video for motiving people? Aug 16 16:42:08 ok Aug 16 16:42:53 videos are always good Aug 16 16:43:17 basically I can show Aug 16 16:43:41 *illume obtimized by me which is usable Aug 16 16:43:48 *games Aug 16 16:44:05 *midori with kinetic scrolling Aug 16 16:44:46 *music Aug 16 16:44:53 *movies full screen full speed(big buck bunny) Aug 16 16:45:12 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rcf8463221e99 10/msmcommd/src/ (remoteclient.vala remoteclienthandler.vala): msmcommd: fix closing channel and connection we client disconnects Aug 16 16:45:13 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r8a5e185e7296 10/ (9 files in 4 dirs): msmcommd: implement first draft of a dbus service Aug 16 16:45:15 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r776081035cb8 10/configure.ac: msmcomm: check for vala-0.10 instead of vala-1.0 Aug 16 16:45:16 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r0101b099ab7e 10/libmsmcomm/vapi/msmcomm-1.0.vapi: libmsmcomm: msmvomm-1.0.vapi: add field types for changed fields in network state info urc Aug 16 16:46:33 xterm with nearly full keyboard mapping Aug 16 16:46:46 sounds good. that should attract some folks Aug 16 16:47:06 ok Aug 16 16:47:48 me personally is another story ;) Aug 16 16:48:10 i'd be more excited by working bluetooth, sensors, ad-hoc wifi, and less of a nightmare with gps Aug 16 16:48:21 but i guess you can't have everything :) Aug 16 16:50:04 ok Aug 16 16:50:04 why exaclty? Aug 16 16:50:04 you neesd more code-wise things? Aug 16 16:50:25 radekp: an awesome bike. I wished we can ride for some time side-by-side to compare it with my road racing one. Aug 16 16:50:32 the problem is scratching the own itch Aug 16 16:50:43 if i'm not using the device, i have no motivation to work on it Aug 16 16:50:57 to be able to use the device i'd either need ad-hoc wifi or bluetooth Aug 16 16:51:05 or at least working gps and sensors Aug 16 16:52:03 but alas, everywhere there are problems and given the time we work on it now, i have my doubts we'll ever get to a state where the FreeRunner is since years Aug 16 16:52:11 that's what almost brings me back to using the FR Aug 16 16:53:51 heyho Aug 16 16:53:57 ok Aug 16 16:53:57 I prefer my htcdream Aug 16 16:54:10 sure, if it suits your use cases, it's fine Aug 16 16:54:20 just switch to the Pre Aug 16 16:54:28 It will fit in mostly everything we need Aug 16 16:54:35 just a little bit of work is to be done Aug 16 16:54:50 and there should be no more big show stoppers Aug 16 16:55:00 but I'd love wifi too Aug 16 16:55:01 and better alsa Aug 16 16:55:01 and better gps Aug 16 16:56:22 I'm working on theses things and I have good hope Aug 16 16:58:21 GNUtoo|htcdream, interesting :) Aug 16 16:58:28 will your work go to mainline kernel? Aug 16 17:02:48 morphis: what about wifi? Aug 16 17:02:48 gps? Aug 16 17:02:48 ThibG: not yet Aug 16 17:02:48 ThibG: that's leviathan's work but he has an exam very soon Aug 16 17:03:00 ok Aug 16 17:03:02 daniel walker is also involved Aug 16 17:03:10 for now mainline boots Aug 16 17:03:13 there is fb Aug 16 17:03:19 but no usbnet yet Aug 16 17:03:20 GNUtoo|htcdream: driver is there, needs only some tweaks Aug 16 17:03:28 and mainline already has support for the wifi chip Aug 16 17:03:28 but is that targetted for mainline? Aug 16 17:03:35 I mean, last time, the situation was terrible Aug 16 17:03:40 but we can't use any newer kernel than 2.6.24 currently :) Aug 16 17:03:51 the msm mach didn't even build Aug 16 17:03:56 missing files everywhere... Aug 16 17:04:29 ok Aug 16 17:06:08 GNUtoo|htcdream: thats the biggest issue on the Palm Pre we currently have, we are always on 2.6.24 Aug 16 17:06:26 driver is there means? Aug 16 17:07:32 is there a floss wifi driver for 2.6.24 with PSM? Aug 16 17:08:00 there is a driver for the sd8xxx from marvell Aug 16 17:08:08 ok Aug 16 17:08:17 libertas? Aug 16 17:08:19 the sources are out there and with newer kernel you can use the chip with the libertas driver Aug 16 17:08:21 jepp Aug 16 17:08:26 the shr manual says that "WiFi manager iliwi is available by default", but that one is not installed by default in testing - am I missing something ? Aug 16 17:08:55 so in other words you need to port compat wireless to 2.6.24 Aug 16 17:08:55 talked already to someone who tolds me to try libertas from 2.6.24 but I never did, you should ask valos about the current state Aug 16 17:09:09 thats one option Aug 16 17:09:12 ahhh Aug 16 17:09:17 or use the driver from marvell Aug 16 17:09:23 there is libertas on 2.6.24 Aug 16 17:09:30 or port the whole palm pre support to a more recent kernel Aug 16 17:09:32 yann_: shr-t is old and manual probably tracks shr-u better Aug 16 17:09:40 I thought there were no 2.6.24 libertas Aug 16 17:09:43 yes, but it's too old as far as I know Aug 16 17:09:46 and is there another option than iwconfig for configuring wifi on testing ? Aug 16 17:09:53 no, 2.6.24 has libertas Aug 16 17:09:56 yann_: shr-t testing images from end of may probably already have iliwi Aug 16 17:09:58 ok nice Aug 16 17:10:13 so you only need platform device source code Aug 16 17:10:15 yann_: mokonnect, but no idea if it works ok Aug 16 17:10:41 well, I installed it some time ago, and upgraded in july - upgrading does not pull new stull, then ? Aug 16 17:10:54 am I stuck with iwconfig only ? Aug 16 17:13:03 GNUtoo|htcdream: jepp Aug 16 17:13:40 I've issues for buying a palmpre Aug 16 17:14:27 basically I'll get a free nexusone for doing some replicant work Aug 16 17:15:11 obviously I'll evaluate if it is fast to port GNU/linux on it Aug 16 17:15:43 when I'll receive it I won't be in france anymore Aug 16 17:16:00 and there is no palm pre to sell in italy Aug 16 17:16:38 only n900 Aug 16 17:16:45 hm Aug 16 17:17:02 morphis: please update the fso status hardware comparison Aug 16 17:17:07 I can buy one for you if you want :) Aug 16 17:17:15 GNUtoo|htcdream: I should :) Aug 16 17:17:58 morphis: hmmm Aug 16 17:18:16 (for buying one for me) Aug 16 17:18:27 how would that work? Aug 16 17:18:37 some days I go I saw O2 selling the old Palm Pre (not the Plus variant) for about 200 Euros Aug 16 17:18:40 you come to fosdem? Aug 16 17:18:49 ok Aug 16 17:19:00 GNUtoo|htcdream: no Aug 16 17:19:04 for 429 Aug 16 17:19:15 there is the pre plus in france Aug 16 17:19:29 if you want the pre plus Aug 16 17:19:31 yann_: i prefer using wpa_supplicant for everything, including wep and open networks. Aug 16 17:19:36 you can still get the old one Aug 16 17:19:43 yann_: it's really not that cubersome. Aug 16 17:20:15 ah damn it, you can't get the Palm Pre at O2 in germany anymore Aug 16 17:20:23 also n900 is better than pre plus hardware wise Aug 16 17:20:25 just the Palm Pre Plus for 361 Euros Aug 16 17:21:03 anyway palm pre is not usable for me Aug 16 17:21:08 why? Aug 16 17:21:10 only 8GB Aug 16 17:21:15 to small? Aug 16 17:21:16 ah ok Aug 16 17:21:22 but I think the plus one has 16 GB Aug 16 17:21:37 jepp, the O2 page tells 16GB Aug 16 17:21:40 my 16G of htcdream mixrosdcard is full...of music Aug 16 17:21:58 and it doesn't have all my music Aug 16 17:21:59 puuh, why do you need so much music on your phone :) Aug 16 17:22:25 so 32G+16G of n900 is appealing Aug 16 17:22:49 morphis: because i've no other device to play music on the go Aug 16 17:23:10 i has a pma430 but it's battery is dead Aug 16 17:23:21 s/has/have Aug 16 17:23:22 hm, I use my old iPod for that Aug 16 17:23:30 it's great, running for four years now Aug 16 17:23:33 ok Aug 16 17:23:38 and has the best battery ever :) Aug 16 17:23:44 i've no money for that Aug 16 17:23:56 just go, by a second device for your music and buy a palm pre now! Aug 16 17:24:04 only money for laptop and embedded devices like phones Aug 16 17:24:05 hm, that's a pitty Aug 16 17:24:30 and I get some devices for free Aug 16 17:24:42 hmmm Aug 16 17:24:52 I've a better idea Aug 16 17:25:19 I look at the palm pre wifi driver source code Aug 16 17:25:23 someone try Aug 16 17:25:30 and I decide Aug 16 17:25:50 n900 has the following status Aug 16 17:25:56 no gps Aug 16 17:26:19 telephony is somewhat supported by ophono Aug 16 17:26:22 ah ok :) Aug 16 17:26:28 that's a way to go Aug 16 17:26:33 kernel is in very goos state Aug 16 17:26:45 *good Aug 16 17:26:49 jepp, and I want to contact the boy who works currently on fso support for the n900 Aug 16 17:27:03 battery is decoded and implemented Aug 16 17:27:07 for a long time now as he lives not far from me Aug 16 17:27:12 bootloader protocol too Aug 16 17:27:23 ok nice Aug 16 17:27:42 so rougly for n900 fso must be implemented Aug 16 17:27:46 that's all Aug 16 17:28:01 the rest alreasy work Aug 16 17:28:25 n900 has a great screen too btw Aug 16 17:28:37 no wesnoth on palm pre... Aug 16 17:28:47 unless you rotate the screen Aug 16 17:29:02 so the keyboard woud be in a streange place Aug 16 17:29:12 but palm pre is cheaper... Aug 16 17:29:41 jepp, and we are on a good way supporting mostly every component of the palm pre Aug 16 17:30:15 most relevant bits of the modem protocol are decoded Aug 16 17:31:30 we just need some more people to get it in a usable state Aug 16 17:32:55 morphis: how doable would it be to help without the device? Aug 16 17:33:10 puuh, we need SHR support Aug 16 17:33:16 some OE work should be done Aug 16 17:33:33 I'm an oe dev Aug 16 17:33:42 great :) Aug 16 17:33:43 i've commit access Aug 16 17:33:53 I am on the way to be one in the future :) Aug 16 17:33:54 d'oh, mokonnect does not work Aug 16 17:34:24 GNUtoo|htcdream: great, than you can help us with getting the palmpre port of SHR in a usable state Aug 16 17:34:58 thank after I do it Aug 16 17:35:04 as I currently don't know what is missing to build a complete shr-image for the palm pre (things like audio-scenarios etc.) Aug 16 17:35:04 not before... Aug 16 17:35:14 ahhh Aug 16 17:35:21 nice... Aug 16 17:35:35 then I could help Aug 16 17:35:45 as we have a different solution for audio scenarios on the palm pre currently Aug 16 17:37:06 ok Aug 16 17:37:16 then you need a fso routing plugin Aug 16 17:37:23 we already have one Aug 16 17:37:52 but the audio scripts need to be packaged in OE Aug 16 17:38:03 ah ok Aug 16 17:38:05 maybe we can do this via palmpre-system-deps Aug 16 17:38:12 please open a wiki page Aug 16 17:38:21 but I don't know the dependencies of SHR for thtat Aug 16 17:38:28 in the SHR wiki? Aug 16 17:38:39 describing what manual process you need to do to get palm pre usable Aug 16 17:38:57 not shure...fso or shr Aug 16 17:39:16 will use FSO for now Aug 16 17:39:31 SHR should contains information about how to setup the phone with SHR Aug 16 17:40:15 ok better Aug 16 17:40:15 I used SHR because I had official images Aug 16 17:41:02 indeed Aug 16 17:41:05 use fso for now Aug 16 17:42:19 good Aug 16 17:42:54 there is already some stuff documented in the webos-internals wiki Aug 16 17:43:03 will link to it Aug 16 17:43:59 basically I see no point in buying the palm pre because it's not better enough than the htcdream.but I would love to see it working...so i can help Aug 16 17:44:48 on another hand htcdream has some issues Aug 16 17:44:50 that even great from you Aug 16 17:45:00 but also great hopes Aug 16 17:45:07 wifi has no psm... Aug 16 17:45:21 I already though about bringing palm pre support to a more recent kernel in the future Aug 16 17:45:27 but we got kalle vallo and bobcopeland onboard Aug 16 17:45:40 ? Aug 16 17:45:41 hmmmm Aug 16 17:45:56 old kernel...you need udev then Aug 16 17:46:31 jepp Aug 16 17:46:41 JaMa: is udev choosable somehow in the image? or is it distro choice? Aug 16 17:46:53 SHR does not support udev anymore? Aug 16 17:47:01 basically can a python @ check do that? Aug 16 17:47:07 morphis: devtmpfs Aug 16 17:47:15 ok Aug 16 17:47:29 what commandline dhcp client do we have in shr-t ? Aug 16 17:47:42 should be the way to go, already though about a backport of devtmpfs to 2.6.24 Aug 16 17:47:45 yann_: try udhcpc Aug 16 17:47:56 morphis: ok Aug 16 17:48:08 but for that I need more time Aug 16 17:48:19 currently I am busy with fsogsmd integration Aug 16 17:48:19 ok Aug 16 17:48:41 if oe workarround is easy...let's just use udev for now Aug 16 17:48:52 would be the better solution Aug 16 17:49:10 it's only a variable to change Aug 16 17:50:05 I already have some patches pending to improve general OE support for the palm pre Aug 16 17:50:10 apart that you need Aug 16 17:50:20 don't know if stefan_schmidt already commited them Aug 16 17:50:30 machine/pre.conf Aug 16 17:50:32 ok Aug 16 17:50:46 xorg.conf Aug 16 17:50:52 ah great, my lvm patches are in Aug 16 17:50:53 etc... Aug 16 17:50:58 machine/palmpre.conf is there Aug 16 17:51:04 for a very long time now :) Aug 16 17:51:04 keyboard mapping? Aug 16 17:51:07 xorg.conf need to be done Aug 16 17:51:13 for x11? Aug 16 17:51:15 ok Aug 16 17:51:38 I need a tester... Aug 16 17:51:42 I already worked with x on the Palm Pre but lost the patches I did Aug 16 17:51:46 use me Aug 16 17:51:54 maybe the guy who worked at fsf? Aug 16 17:52:00 maybe Aug 16 17:52:13 djbclark: hi Aug 16 17:53:08 djbclark: do you have some time? Aug 16 17:53:39 GNUtoo|htcdream: hi! Aug 16 17:53:47 GNUtoo|htcdream: long time no see. how are the exams coming along ? Aug 16 17:54:02 do we have anything to set through iwpriv on gta02 ? Aug 16 17:54:06 dcordes: hollidays for now Aug 16 17:56:36 I only set essid+key, and running udhcpc causes "connected" and "disconnected" messages in dmesg output, but no clear error message... Aug 16 17:57:12 yann_: there is a floss atheros uttility to set things too Aug 16 17:58:31 morphis: basically I dont't know what I want... Aug 16 17:58:40 GNUtoo|htcdream: on gta02 ? Aug 16 17:58:41 in a way I want to develop Aug 16 17:58:49 yann_: yes Aug 16 17:59:06 develop means half woking phone Aug 16 17:59:15 no executable named "floss" here Aug 16 17:59:36 yann_: floss means free libre and open source Aug 16 17:59:57 maybe wmi something Aug 16 18:00:09 I really don't remember Aug 16 18:00:47 and I can't have 2 phones(a working and a non-working) Aug 16 18:01:03 because else...how do I test? Aug 16 18:01:30 oops;) Aug 16 18:02:05 maybe wmiconfig/ Aug 16 18:02:12 found wmiconfig Aug 16 18:02:15 s#/#?# Aug 16 18:02:44 but that looks much like bluetooth Aug 16 18:03:06 hmmm Aug 16 18:03:35 ah, not ony bt Aug 16 18:04:35 yann_: the main trick with wmiconfig is the maxperf one. Aug 16 18:06:21 maxperf does not seem to help here Aug 16 18:07:13 well, nm, I'll wait a couple of days till back home, then install iliwi... Aug 16 18:07:28 'nough time lost on this :( Aug 16 18:08:28 btw, anyone finds that a default shr install takes much much ram Aug 16 18:09:07 after running vala-term and literki (which respectively eat 30M and 20M on their own) I only have 20M left Aug 16 18:09:36 there are so many processes eating 20M there, what's happenning ? Aug 16 18:10:03 ps -eorss,cmd|sort -n|nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 Aug 16 18:10:23 I'll dig this next month if needed, now I'm just stuck with a not-so-usable device for hacking... Aug 16 18:12:03 yann_: hm, how on earth using iliwi can help wifi??? The driver's the same, wpa_supplicant is the same. Aug 16 18:12:27 http://paste.debian.net/83716/ Aug 16 18:13:06 PaulF: I updated to current FSOREV yesterday and did quite a few calls since then... so far without any problems Aug 16 18:13:59 mrmoku: cool Aug 16 18:19:13 JaMa: hello, i was building shr-unstable on my hudson, but several errors occours, i would like to know, are that real errors ? Aug 16 18:19:40 JaMa: the output can be found at http://norman-schleicher.de/hudson/job/shr-unstable-image-clean-build/5/console Aug 16 18:20:22 PaulF: maybe mickeyl is right and you need dbus with increased timeout... Aug 16 18:21:10 cp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/var/lib/hudson/jobs/shr-unstable-image-clean-build/workspace/shr-unstable/tmp/sysroots/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/X11/fonts' with directory `/var/lib/hudson/jobs/shr-unstable-image-clean-build/workspace/shr-unstable/tmp/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/xserver-xorg-2_1.8.99.906-r18.3/sysroot-destdir//var/lib/hudson/jobs/shr-unstable-image-clean-build/workspace/shr-unstable/tmp/sysroots/armv4t- Aug 16 18:21:10 oe-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/X11/fonts' Aug 16 18:21:45 mrmoku: i do not think i'm seeing dbus timeouts anywhere in the logs Aug 16 18:21:56 ERROR: QA Issue with libpython2: non -dev package contains symlink .so: libpython2 path '/work/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/python-2.6.4-ml10.1/packages-split/libpython2/usr/lib/libpython2.6.so' Aug 16 18:21:56 Aug 16 18:25:39 PaulF: hmm... ok Aug 16 18:27:54 morphis: sorry battery ran out Aug 16 18:30:27 nschle85: yes it's only QA error, but someone should fix it Aug 16 18:31:08 JaMa: hi, Aug 16 18:31:17 GNUtoo|htcdream: it's in IMAGE_DEV_MANAGER shr-image.inc, feel free to override it with machine override Aug 16 18:31:27 ok nice Aug 16 18:31:52 so it's only in image... Aug 16 18:33:29 because I knew image dev manager...but I didn't know if shr had a policy for udev Aug 16 18:34:00 for instance...gpsd brings udev on htcdream Aug 16 18:38:47 PaulF: hmm... now it woke up without a reason and lost it's registration :/ Aug 16 18:38:55 Yo Aug 16 18:39:00 i'm not the only one Aug 16 18:39:07