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Aug 19 06:37:04 <gena2x> hi guys, can anyone with debug board help me?
Aug 19 06:37:28 <gena2x> i have .34 kernel which fails to resume
Aug 19 06:37:52 <gena2x> i want to know PC where it hangs
Aug 19 06:38:35 <gena2x> can anyone run kernel, suspend/resume and tell me PC? thanks.
Aug 19 06:40:10 <lindi-> gena2x: jtag does not work in suspend
Aug 19 06:41:29 <gena2x> lindi-: if it just suspends and not resumes at all, it will be answer too
Aug 19 06:41:47 <gena2x> but i think it hangs somewhere while early resume
Aug 19 06:42:12 <lindi-> gena2x: can you turn a LED on early in he u-boot resume code?
Aug 19 06:44:46 <gena2x> lindi-: i tried panic() call, but somehow in suspend process it didn't blink my led.
Aug 19 06:45:03 <gena2x> but in usual life it blinks
Aug 19 06:45:25 <gena2x> i mean then i panic kernel not while suspending
Aug 19 06:45:56 <gena2x> also, i see that if i add tons of debugging (classical debug kernel), it starts working
Aug 19 06:46:51 <gena2x> so, the code itself may be relatively ok, and this is some not-easy-to-find syncronisation or timeout
Aug 19 06:47:20 <gena2x> downloading and checking kernel should take not more than 30 mins.
Aug 19 06:47:47 <gena2x> but other ways are much much more painful.
Aug 19 06:50:15 <gena2x> and also, it is actually running something, as fr is hot (as opposed to cold in suspend)
Aug 19 06:51:10 <gena2x> ehh... ok, i'll go hard and long way...
Aug 19 07:03:43 <GNUtoo|htcdream> hi phh 
Aug 19 07:03:58 <GNUtoo|htcdream> how can I remove all the prints from the gps activator?
Aug 19 07:04:41 <GNUtoo|htcdream> when doing ./gps/3 2>&1 > /dev/null I've lots of things like 00000000r_read(38)
Aug 19 07:04:48 <GNUtoo|htcdream> hi mickey|office 
Aug 19 07:17:13 <Deubeuliou> hi GNUtoo|htcdream 
Aug 19 07:17:37 <Deubeuliou> I lost my nexusone in a train station during my vacations :(
Aug 19 07:26:52 <nib> Hi
Aug 19 07:30:39 <Arigead> JaMa: Ping
Aug 19 07:31:05 <JaMa> pong
Aug 19 07:33:12 <Arigead> JaMa: Thanks for all your help yesterday. I now have local builds using a user.collection working with the SRC_URI pointing at the local file system. I just wanted to ask about the installation of the resulting .ipk file. I can scp that over to the openmoko and simply opkg install file.ipk? Just checking. 
Aug 19 07:40:26 <JaMa> Arigead: if the version is higher than what is currently in feed then yes
Aug 19 07:40:52 <JaMa> Arigead: or if you're using image built by you and feeds only on your buildhost...
Aug 19 07:41:35 <Arigead> JaMa: So I can up the version in my recipe to make sure.
Aug 19 07:50:39 <mickey|office> morning gnu
Aug 19 07:50:41 <mickey|office> too
Aug 19 08:25:42 <Rukk> hi all
Aug 19 08:26:25 <Rukk> is GPS working in newest SHR-u
Aug 19 08:30:13 <Rukk> ~nf
Aug 19 08:30:14 <apt> The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help)  - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL  - - -  NEWSFLASH [2010-07-08 11:25 UTC]: SHR-unstable moved to 2.6.32 kernel; gena2x works on overclocking Neo and making Glamo faster.
Aug 19 08:34:05 <Rukk> hi all
Aug 19 08:34:07 <Rukk> is GPS working in newest SHR-u
Aug 19 08:34:52 <JaMa> yes it should work
Aug 19 08:35:46 <Rukk> just installed it, but cant get a fix
Aug 19 08:35:53 <Rukk> rest works fine
Aug 19 08:38:31 <Rukk> going to take a walk, maybe then get a fix
Aug 19 08:39:12 <gena2x> Rukk: this is usual and most popular problem with gps on fr
Aug 19 08:39:29 <gena2x> Rukk: so away and stand for 5 minutes for fix
Aug 19 08:39:34 <gena2x> for sure :)
Aug 19 08:39:47 <Rukk> going to try, thx
Aug 19 08:39:55 <max_posedon> personally I'm never had fix with 2.6.32
Aug 19 08:40:24 <gena2x> max_posedon: are you sure you gps were powered up?
Aug 19 08:40:54 <max_posedon> I just started tangogps, in shr-U
Aug 19 08:41:30 <gena2x> this may be just some shr problem, but also... something with glamo-mci.
Aug 19 09:15:33 <mickey|office> hmm, netsplit day
Aug 19 09:43:52 <DocScrutinizer> *nod*
Aug 19 09:44:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi mickey|office 
Aug 19 09:44:15 <GNUtoo|laptop>         Posix.system( @"$cmdline > /dev/null &" ); called like that:
Aug 19 09:44:32 <GNUtoo|laptop>         launchProcessInBackground( "/usr/bin/gps" );
Aug 19 09:44:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> makes the phone crash....
Aug 19 09:44:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> so...
Aug 19 09:45:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> I bet it's the classic thing
Aug 19 09:45:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> for instance long time ago I made an application in java for the bug device
Aug 19 09:45:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> it needed mplayer
Aug 19 09:45:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> mplayer was launched from java but didn't run at first
Aug 19 09:45:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> becuase stdin,stdout,stderr were not read
Aug 19 09:47:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe I should try that:
Aug 19 09:47:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> gps 2>&1 > /dev/null but there is still something that prints something
Aug 19 09:48:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> less prints
Aug 19 09:48:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> but still some prints
Aug 19 09:48:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> Deubeuliou, hi
Aug 19 09:48:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> so you lost your nexusone...too bad
Aug 19 09:49:10 <DocScrutinizer> gps 2>&1 > /dev/null   is wrong
Aug 19 09:49:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> DocScrutinizer, ah? what is right then
Aug 19 09:49:29 <DocScrutinizer> gps > /dev/null  2>&1  is what you want
Aug 19 09:49:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah?
Aug 19 09:49:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> I want everything redirected to /dev/null
Aug 19 09:49:59 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll try
Aug 19 09:49:59 <DocScrutinizer> exactly
Aug 19 09:50:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> wow
Aug 19 09:50:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> could you explain a bit more on why it works and the previous one didn't
Aug 19 09:51:09 <DocScrutinizer> &1 is the filehandle of stdout
Aug 19 09:51:18 <GNUtoo|laptop> and 2 is stderr
Aug 19 09:51:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> I know that
Aug 19 09:51:37 <DocScrutinizer> you're redirecting 2 to stdout, then youre redirecting 1 to null
Aug 19 09:51:42 <DocScrutinizer> 2 still stdout
Aug 19 09:51:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> but...why putting 2>&1 at the end works
Aug 19 09:52:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Aug 19 09:53:47 <DocScrutinizer> 2>&1 means "redirect 2 to the file tha 1 is pointing NOW"
Aug 19 09:55:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Aug 19 09:55:02 <GNUtoo|laptop> thanks a lot
Aug 19 09:55:16 <DocScrutinizer> after all &1 means "address of 1", even in c
Aug 19 09:55:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> I think I got it
Aug 19 09:55:38 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically it's only syntax
Aug 19 09:55:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> if you don't put 2>&1 at the end it does:
Aug 19 09:56:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> gps ;2>&1(of nothing) >(of 2&1) /dev/null
Aug 19 09:57:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> but if you do the countrary it does:
Aug 19 09:58:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> gps > /dev/null (redirect 1 to /dev/null) 2>&1 (redirect 2 to 1,which goes to /dev/null)
Aug 19 10:05:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> thanks a lot DocScrutinizer 
Aug 19 10:05:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll test the changes in the code and see
Aug 19 10:06:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, mickey|office ping
Aug 19 10:06:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> I think my theory was just
Aug 19 10:07:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> launchProcessInBackground( "/usr/bin/gps" ); //reboots the phone
Aug 19 10:07:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> launchProcessInBackground( "gps > /dev/null  2>&1" ); //doesn't reboots the phone
Aug 19 10:07:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> thanks a lot DocScrutinizer 
Aug 19 10:07:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> so...
Aug 19 10:07:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> I give you the source
Aug 19 10:08:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> me or you removes the prints
Aug 19 10:08:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> and we're done
Aug 19 10:08:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> no?
Aug 19 10:21:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> ping mickeyl mickey|office 
Aug 19 10:35:48 <lindi-> GNUtoo|laptop: what is "gpS"?
Aug 19 10:36:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> gps not gpS
Aug 19 10:36:16 <lindi-> GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, what is it?
Aug 19 10:36:20 <gena2x> GPS :)
Aug 19 10:36:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> how to explain that:
Aug 19 10:36:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's from the android-rpc recipe
Aug 19 10:36:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically it's a FLOSS binary that activates the GPS on the htcdream
Aug 19 10:36:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> source code available
Aug 19 10:37:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> phh did all the work, I only dumped,tested etc...
Aug 19 10:37:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> and mickeyl adapted it for the htcdream
Aug 19 10:38:04 <GNUtoo|laptop> only that we don't want to launch a program,we prefer using a lib in vala
Aug 19 10:38:54 <lindi-> GNUtoo|laptop: "gps" is somewhat bad name :)
Aug 19 10:38:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> and because some prints access stderr and that we don't read that...it makes the phone crash
Aug 19 10:39:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> lindi-, we will get rid of that and make something automatic soon
Aug 19 10:39:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> basically you click on navit
Aug 19 10:39:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> and it works
Aug 19 10:39:27 <GNUtoo|laptop> for instance
Aug 19 10:39:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> or tango/foxtrot gps
Aug 19 10:41:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, piing
Aug 19 10:43:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> be back later then
Aug 19 13:10:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi mickeyl 
Aug 19 13:10:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> did you get my mail?
Aug 19 13:43:29 <mickey|office> GNUtoo|laptop: ya, got it. while i don't understand it, it's worth a try removing all debug output
Aug 19 13:43:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Aug 19 13:44:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> in java when you execute a program
Aug 19 13:44:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> like mplayer
Aug 19 13:44:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> you need to read the stdout,stderr
Aug 19 13:44:25 <GNUtoo|laptop> if you don't the program blocks
Aug 19 13:46:20 <mickey|office> hmm
Aug 19 15:34:18 <pespin> mickeyl, it seems that if I run elm loop instead of glib mainloop in vala I don't get dbus dignals. I suppouse i have to integrate one loop into the other. How to do that?
Aug 19 16:00:56 * PaulF lost all his messages in opimd again. Not sure how the hell that happens :/
Aug 19 16:13:46 <pespin> mickeyl, neverimnd, found an example in eflvala sources :9
Aug 19 16:14:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, how do I compile cornucopia with a devshell?
Aug 19 16:15:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> sh autogen.sh
Aug 19 16:15:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> oe_runconf
Aug 19 16:15:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> oe_runmake
Aug 19 16:15:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> is enough?
Aug 19 16:15:40 <JaMa|wrk> pespin: can you commit this to emtooth? http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/dfc7ea79fce9936bef58a0a4abe89819db65d38f
Aug 19 16:16:19 <JaMa|wrk> pespin: better link http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/blobs/raw/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/openmoko-3rdparty/emtooth/depends.eina.patch
Aug 19 16:17:34 <pespin> JaMa|wrk, sure. I'm rewritting emtooth in vala right now though )
Aug 19 16:17:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> also if I make a git patch, will you ajust the autotools
Aug 19 16:17:54 <JaMa|wrk> pespin: ok.. so I'll keep this patch only in OE..
Aug 19 16:19:14 <pespin> JaMa|wrk, nah wait a moment, I'll sent it :)
Aug 19 16:23:06 <pespin> JaMa|wrk, btw, is mercurial suported in OE? I'm planning to move to it from svn with new vala code
Aug 19 16:27:04 <JaMa|wrk> pespin: it is, but only few recipes are using it (there were also some issues with it)
Aug 19 16:27:34 <pespin> JaMa|wrk, done
Aug 19 16:27:42 <JaMa|wrk> bitbake@jama ~/dev/recipes $ find . -name \*hg.bb
Aug 19 16:27:42 <JaMa|wrk> ./mozilla/firefox_hg.bb
Aug 19 16:27:42 <JaMa|wrk> ./mozilla/fennec_hg.bb
Aug 19 16:27:42 <JaMa|wrk> ./ushare/ushare_hg.bb
Aug 19 16:27:51 <JaMa|wrk> and 6 more
Aug 19 16:28:13 <pespin> ok
Aug 19 16:30:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> phh, hi
Aug 19 16:30:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> I convert the gps activator into a lib
Aug 19 16:31:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> and I remove every printf from all the libs under it and withing gps.c(wich is the activator)
Aug 19 16:31:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> if I run it as a lib it reboots the phone...
Aug 19 16:33:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll try something
Aug 19 16:49:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, ping
Aug 19 16:50:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> sigh....I don't know vala, I don't know fso, etc...
Aug 19 16:54:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, ping
Aug 19 16:54:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> there is:
Aug 19 16:54:24 <GNUtoo|laptop>     var guard = new GProcessGuard();
Aug 19 16:54:30 <GNUtoo|laptop>     var ok = guard.launch( { "/bin/sleep", "1" } );
Aug 19 16:54:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> can I use ok to stop the process?
Aug 19 16:56:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> sigh maybe I should abandon everything,but a palm pre and do something else
Aug 19 16:56:21 <GNUtoo|laptop> s/but/buy
Aug 19 16:56:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'm definitely not the person for n900
Aug 19 16:58:51 <phh> you really need to do that in vala ?
Aug 19 16:59:52 <GNUtoo|laptop> I think so
Aug 19 17:00:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> hmmm maybe ok is a pid
Aug 19 17:01:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> ouch no
Aug 19 17:01:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> it returns an error
Aug 19 17:01:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> phh, what do you think, If I remove every print will it work?
Aug 19 17:01:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> I think not
Aug 19 17:01:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> but....
Aug 19 17:02:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll try launching a binary which prints nothing
Aug 19 17:02:05 <phh> well I'd say the problem is more in the timer things
Aug 19 17:02:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> and use git as source
Aug 19 17:02:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's not timer related:
Aug 19 17:02:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> a system of gps that goes to /dev/null works
Aug 19 17:02:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> the same system that doesn't go to /dev/null crashed the phone
Aug 19 17:03:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> gps > /dev/null  2>&1 //ok
Aug 19 17:03:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> gps //not ok
Aug 19 17:03:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> all are launched with vala
Aug 19 17:03:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> I don't know how to redirect a printf of a lib to /dev/null....hmmmm
Aug 19 17:03:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> and I'm lost in fso+vala
Aug 19 17:04:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> glib got no good tutorial for vala
Aug 19 17:25:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> does someone else than mickeyl knows fso internals?
Aug 19 17:33:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> how do I include fsobasics?
Aug 19 17:33:09 <GNUtoo|laptop> I want to use libfsobasics
Aug 19 17:33:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> sigh mickeyl 
Aug 19 17:33:30 <GNUtoo|laptop> maybe I shouldn't do that part....
Aug 19 17:35:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> sigh
Aug 19 17:36:15 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll read my mails then
Aug 19 17:47:24 <Q-Master> JaMa|wrk: is linphone in shr repo?
Aug 19 17:59:38 <pespin> mickeyl, in elm.vapi, Elm.List should inherit Elm.Scroller imho
Aug 19 18:01:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> e
Aug 19 18:07:56 <pespin> mickeyl, neverimind again, c api seems to have changed since I used that ;)
Aug 19 18:47:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll go bye
Aug 19 18:48:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> too bad mickeyl is not there
Aug 19 18:52:53 <dcordes> hi
Aug 19 18:53:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi dcordes 
Aug 19 18:53:16 <GNUtoo|laptop> I feel bad
Aug 19 18:53:31 <dcordes> GNUtoo|laptop: I have a problem. Although I added the xf86-input-tslib in htc-qsd8.inc it was not included in the image I rebuilt
Aug 19 18:53:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> vala+fso is hard 
Aug 19 18:53:50 <dcordes> GNUtoo|laptop: I thought it might be related to the image being built completely before
Aug 19 18:54:06 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah?
Aug 19 18:54:08 <dcordes> GNUtoo|laptop: do I have to do something special for new package to include in built ?
Aug 19 18:55:11 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Aug 19 18:55:14 <GNUtoo|laptop> bump PR
Aug 19 18:55:19 <dcordes> which PR ?
Aug 19 18:55:26 <GNUtoo|laptop> how did you include it?
Aug 19 18:55:27 <dcordes> http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=fd13cdbe0b1f2fead0c281010830c55984e8a362 I am tlaking about that
Aug 19 18:55:31 <dcordes> like so
Aug 19 18:55:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Aug 19 18:55:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> bump PR of the inc file that include them
Aug 19 18:55:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's in tasks
Aug 19 18:56:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> task-x11.bb
Aug 19 18:56:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> that should work
Aug 19 18:56:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> too bad I spent the day hitting the head against the walls with vala+fso
Aug 19 18:56:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl was not there to help
Aug 19 18:58:32 <GNUtoo|laptop> is it safe to opkg update;opkg upgrade the om-gta02 now?
Aug 19 18:58:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> by now I mean I'll do it now if it's safe
Aug 19 19:00:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> dcordes, I'll go
Aug 19 19:01:32 <dcordes> alright will bump task-x11.bb pr by one
Aug 19 19:06:48 <rmull> ~nf
Aug 19 19:06:49 <apt> The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help)  - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL  - - -  NEWSFLASH [2010-07-08 11:25 UTC]: SHR-unstable moved to 2.6.32 kernel; gena2x works on overclocking Neo and making Glamo faster.
Aug 19 20:49:56 <pespin> JaMa|wrk, is emtooth set to autorev in OE? could you set to use rev78? I'm gonna be using same svn repo for new vala version.
Aug 19 20:51:29 <JaMa|wrk> pespin: yes and yes
Aug 19 20:51:51 <JaMa|wrk> Q-Master: look yourself but iirc it should be
Aug 19 20:57:54 <pespin> JaMa|wrk, thnks :)
Aug 19 20:59:56 <GNUtoo|laptop> mickeyl, ping
Aug 19 21:00:31 <GNUtoo|laptop> is there anyone that knows fso internals?
Aug 19 21:10:28 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll go
Aug 19 21:10:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> bye
Aug 19 21:13:40 <pespin> efl vala bindings has problems with refrencing objects... u.u I have to save a reference of each single elm object in order to maintain them alive...
Aug 19 21:14:37 <pespin> iliwi dev is saving each of them in an array to keep them alive. I'm copying that strategy till I find a better one xD
Aug 19 21:42:33 <pespin> JaMa, new vala version of emtooth is here: http://code.google.com/p/emtooth/source/browse/#svn/trunk/app2
Aug 19 21:42:42 <pespin> C emtooth is in .../app
Aug 19 21:43:33 <pespin> JaMa, would you mind creating an oe recipe for it? it's just changing some things from C version I think
Aug 19 21:43:39 <pespin> require vala and eflvala
Aug 19 21:44:49 <pespin> (btw new version only supports device listing atm, but I hope I'll get quickly to the same usage state as the older one)
Aug 19 21:45:42 <JaMa> maybe during weekend, now sleep()
Aug 19 21:46:09 <pespin> JaMa|Zzzz, sure :)
Aug 19 21:48:54 <yann> anyone has babiloo working in shr-t ?
Aug 19 21:49:13 <yann> if I select a sdict dictionnary, i keeps tleling me I have to load a dict
Aug 19 21:49:34 <yann> like if the ui was lacking something
Aug 19 21:58:17 <yann> do'h, to load one has to select "save" button...
Aug 20 01:41:54 * djbclark misses GNUtoo|htcdream
Aug 20 01:42:37 * djbclark wishes people would just say what they want to talk about, and then leave email addresses for themselves if they don't hear back in a while.
Aug 20 01:43:50 <PaulF> djbclark: Do you want to have an email address of GNUtoo?
Aug 20 01:44:58 <djbclark> PaulF: nope
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