**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 27 02:59:57 2010 Sep 27 06:54:07 morning Sep 27 07:08:44 moin Sep 27 07:09:18 daniele_athome: mokowm is autorev.. so it will be bumped with next rebuild Sep 27 07:09:39 daniele_athome: but rebuild still not finished and now shr.bearstech.com does not respond :/ Sep 27 07:09:39 morning JaMa Sep 27 07:09:40 ok thanks Sep 27 07:09:44 i see :) Sep 27 07:16:14 09:12:48 < lukhas> known problem indeed, we sort of lost the dom0 Sep 27 07:16:14 09:13:17 < lukhas> that was 4 hours ago, still waiting for a tech guy to go figure out what's the problem Sep 27 07:34:38 <\marco> hi all Sep 27 07:35:02 <\marco> shr buildhost is down? :( Sep 27 07:36:18 \marco: yes, read backlog for details Sep 27 07:37:20 <\marco> JaMa: oh, thanks :) I've looked for info on the blog or the ML but I've found nothing :) Sep 27 07:37:40 <\marco> I've a problem with mplayer.. seems it won't play any video :/ it's related with the kms and glamo? Sep 27 07:40:18 \marco: it worked before with kms and -vo glamo Sep 27 07:40:26 \marco: but I haven't tried it for some time Sep 27 07:40:41 <\marco> JaMa: mhm let me try with -vo glamo :) Sep 27 07:42:53 <\marco> JaMa: No Glamo chip found or the kerne is old. Sep 27 07:42:54 <\marco> :D Sep 27 07:43:20 <\marco> ok Sep 27 07:43:29 <\marco> I'm an idiot.. display=:0 missing Sep 27 07:43:31 <\marco> LOL Sep 27 07:44:26 \marco: and btw -vo glamo should be default Sep 27 07:45:35 <\marco> JaMa: mhm.. seems not. But I'm using a little old image ( about one moth ago ) Sep 27 07:46:06 <\marco> ( shr-u ) Sep 27 07:47:44 <\marco> I've to go :) thank you again JaMa ;) have a good day Sep 27 07:47:46 <\marco> bye! Sep 27 07:53:03 mmm Sep 27 07:53:14 JaMa, -vo glamo isn't working for quite some time now Sep 27 07:53:31 i must use -vo x11 Sep 27 07:53:51 ~nf Sep 27 07:53:52 The #openmoko-cdevel Newsflash Bulletin Board. (continued at ~NF2. For help see ~NF-help) - - - Recommended URLs and channels(chanlogs etc):see ~RL - - - NEWSFLASH [2010-07-08 11:25 UTC]: SHR-unstable moved to 2.6.32 kernel; gena2x works on overclocking Neo and making Glamo faster. Sep 27 07:56:20 that's an oldsflash. Sep 27 08:00:09 mmm Sep 27 08:06:03 -vo glamo + KMS "shouldn't" work.. Sep 27 08:09:15 mmm Sep 27 08:09:37 Weiss, so glamo mplayer vo needs to be ported to kms? Sep 27 08:11:04 strictly speaking, yes Sep 27 08:11:20 you can't have two things fighting for control of the GPU.. I don't know why some people get away with it.. Sep 27 08:11:39 i understand Sep 27 08:23:02 Weiss: hello :), long time now commit in your git repos, what happend? :( Sep 27 08:35:42 work mostly Sep 27 08:36:07 also a bit of a lack of motivation.. partially due to my programming "needs" being filled at work Sep 27 08:38:29 ah :/ pity Sep 27 08:38:42 I was also getting a bit frustrated with poking JBT et al Sep 27 11:14:55 [Rui]: ah now I've found again what's wrong with curl and elmdentica :) it fails to build after you build curl-sdk (it's using curl from sysroots/x86_64-linux-sdk/usr/local/shr/arm/include/curl/curlrules.h instead sysroots/arm*) Sep 27 12:34:37 GNUtoo|laptop: hi Sep 27 12:34:40 http://golem.mobi/1009/78059.html Sep 27 12:34:42 mickey|away: hi Sep 27 12:34:54 GNUtoo|laptop, mickey|away: http://golem.mobi/1009/78059.html Sep 27 12:35:17 GNUtoo|laptop: with mickey and you we could migrate RPC server bundle for MSM platform Sep 27 12:35:21 and other stuff Sep 27 12:35:27 directly into the system bus Sep 27 12:35:30 in kernel space Sep 27 12:35:40 so it would use a new clean standard Sep 27 12:35:47 and android would have to use dbus Sep 27 12:35:54 if they wanna use upstream kernels ;-D Sep 27 12:37:21 JaMa, did you set mokosuite2 to autorev as well? Sep 27 12:38:02 mokosuite2 new rev: 28e60e2bb6056183195ea58e0dda185aa3913cb7 Sep 27 12:38:06 just in case Sep 27 12:42:22 daniele_athome: yes Sep 27 12:43:10 i pushed a bugfix just 5 mins ago :) Sep 27 12:49:02 hi leviathan Sep 27 12:49:09 for your cable Sep 27 12:49:11 I checked Sep 27 12:49:16 ok? Sep 27 12:49:16 and it's a standard one Sep 27 12:49:19 wtf? Sep 27 12:49:20 ok Sep 27 12:49:25 which standard? Sep 27 12:49:26 :-) Sep 27 12:49:32 it's the new european usb standard one Sep 27 12:49:41 I've the same on nokia900 and nexusone Sep 27 12:50:53 you've got the one on the left: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Usb_connectors.JPG ? Sep 27 12:51:07 it's micro-b Sep 27 12:51:32 openmoko has mini-b though? Sep 27 12:51:37 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USB-Stecker_Nokia_5130.jpg Sep 27 12:51:49 lindi-, yes, we're talking about geeksphone Sep 27 12:51:56 he has one to port SHR on it Sep 27 12:53:31 yet another phone possibly capable of running with free software? cool Sep 27 12:53:38 yes Sep 27 12:53:46 very similar to htcdream Sep 27 12:53:52 because its very similiar to htcdream Sep 27 12:53:56 lol Sep 27 12:53:57 ok Sep 27 12:54:22 hmm Sep 27 12:54:24 two weeks Sep 27 12:54:25 leviathan, so just go buy a cable? Sep 27 12:54:29 yes Sep 27 12:54:32 but not now Sep 27 12:54:36 I'm tired Sep 27 12:54:39 ok Sep 27 12:54:45 and also I've got to do a lot of work today Sep 27 12:54:48 " two weeks' means? Sep 27 12:55:12 ahh, in two weaks the next generation OM board will arrive Sep 27 12:55:19 ok Sep 27 12:55:22 :-) Sep 27 12:55:34 so buy the cable very quick Sep 27 12:55:42 then we will put the new CAD around Sep 27 12:55:47 and do keyboard + gui + integration Sep 27 12:55:49 put the OLED display into it Sep 27 12:55:50 etc. Sep 27 12:55:53 ok Sep 27 12:55:58 GNUtoo|laptop: yes Sep 27 12:56:00 ... Sep 27 12:56:08 but we already have done a lot Sep 27 12:56:13 for keyboard integration Sep 27 12:56:17 really? Sep 27 12:56:20 uhm Sep 27 12:56:22 no Sep 27 12:56:27 I mean xkb Sep 27 12:56:28 but keyboard inputs work Sep 27 12:56:30 right? Sep 27 12:56:31 :-) Sep 27 12:56:36 yes if you map it Sep 27 12:56:41 yup Sep 27 12:56:44 remember the dream? Sep 27 12:56:47 it's not mapped Sep 27 12:56:51 you have qwerty Sep 27 12:57:00 but not - | etc... Sep 27 12:57:06 ls -l | grep something Sep 27 12:57:08 can't be done Sep 27 13:26:09 JaMa: how about using 2.6.34 now that there are alsa scenarios available? Sep 27 13:28:14 last time i was testing it i wasn't able to reproduce freezes from .32 Sep 27 13:30:25 today I've pushed 3 new patches to it, please try it from shr-kms Sep 27 13:30:50 dos1: and I'm ok with moving to it as I'm using it for long and I agree that it feels better than .32 Sep 27 13:36:20 freesmartphone.org: 03mail 07cornucopia * rc5e956c6c794 10/fsodeviced/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-2.6.34/ (9 files): fsodeviced: added alsa scenarios for openmoko 2.6.34 kernels Sep 27 13:38:54 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07cornucopia * rd7303629d006 10/fsodeviced/conf/openmoko_gta/ (Makefile.am alsa-2.6.34/Makefile.am): fsodeviced: openmoko_gta: add alsa-2.6.34 to build system Sep 27 13:39:18 freesmartphone.org: 03mail 07cornucopia * r4c9b0f52651a 10/fsodeviced/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-2.6.31/gsmspeaker: openmoko alsa-2.6.31 scenario: fix GSM speaker out state file Sep 27 13:46:30 hmm, but ts filtering would be useful :x Sep 27 13:59:36 mrmoku|away, hi Sep 27 14:05:52 GNUtoo|laptop: hey Sep 27 14:06:24 mrmoku, what are the plan now? make it boot without usb cable and fix backlight and rebase? Sep 27 14:08:33 GNUtoo|laptop: it does not boot for me... neither with nor without usb :/ Sep 27 14:08:48 ah ? Sep 27 14:08:49 I see the SHR boot logo, no kernel messages though Sep 27 14:08:53 and then it reboots Sep 27 14:09:16 maybe watchdog? Sep 27 14:12:06 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm... maybe with the older kernel watchdog is different... or missing in the config? Sep 27 14:12:19 try to disable watchdog Sep 27 14:12:26 with flasher or 0xffff Sep 27 14:12:50 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07cornucopia * r444a1f881e47 10/fsodeviced/configure.ac: fsodeviced: openmoko_gta: add alsa-2.6.34 to configure.ac Sep 27 14:12:50 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07cornucopia * re9f40b3792e1 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/powercontrol_ifconfig/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: powercontrol_ifconfig: cosmetics on logger messages Sep 27 14:14:40 dos1: do you have some time to look for this bug?: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1202 Sep 27 14:15:03 Heinervdm: already looked at it yesterday, should be fixed Sep 27 14:15:16 dos1: great :) Sep 27 14:15:23 though i haven't tested it yet Sep 27 14:15:40 dos1: i will try it, if it's build Sep 27 14:16:11 <[Rui]> JaMa: weird. is it because of sth I must fix? Sep 27 14:16:15 * mrmoku has to change his bip.conf as people in #maemo complain about changing nick when being away :/ Sep 27 14:16:29 dos1: have you commited your patch? Sep 27 14:16:34 Heinervdm: yup Sep 27 14:16:39 Heinervdm: it's in shr-settings Sep 27 14:17:44 is there someone with Nokia N810? Sep 27 14:19:40 dos1, leviathan has one Sep 27 14:20:06 mrmobil, hi Sep 27 14:20:13 dos1: my friend has one Sep 27 14:20:21 yo Sep 27 14:20:27 mrmobil, did you try removing the watchdogs? Sep 27 14:20:32 in the bootloader Sep 27 14:20:49 GNUtoo|laptop: good idea Sep 27 14:21:22 Rakshat Hooja offered sending one to me to get SHR working on it :D Sep 27 14:24:12 GNUtoo|laptop: will try that now Sep 27 14:24:25 ok Sep 27 14:32:37 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, works Sep 27 14:32:44 so the watchdogs are different Sep 27 14:33:08 ok Sep 27 14:34:36 hmm... no watchdog installed Sep 27 14:34:39 why that Sep 27 14:34:46 I don't know Sep 27 14:34:53 also I had backlight issues Sep 27 14:38:15 dos1: please also switch link in Makefile.am to point to 2.6.34 Sep 27 14:38:37 dos1: sth like http://paste.pocoo.org/show/268034/ Sep 27 14:38:51 JaMa: what is the correct place to get watchdog into the image for nokia900? Sep 27 14:38:58 machine.conf with something? Sep 27 14:39:07 or task-shr-minimal with an nokia900 override? Sep 27 14:39:36 task-shr-minimal is already machine arch.. so it's ok there Sep 27 14:39:39 mrmoku, MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMANDS? Sep 27 14:39:56 or as GNUtoo|laptop says Sep 27 14:40:52 ok, will do the machine extra thing then... it is already there for kernel-modules Sep 27 14:43:16 [Rui]: not sure.. but after this is build, elmdentica autotools find many libs in wrong sysroot (curl/glib-2.0/libz-zlib) when I -c clean those I can build elmdentica again, but if you're correctly using pkg-config etc then it should be fine from your side (didn't check your configure.ac etc myself..) Sep 27 14:44:33 <[Rui]> This seems correct, to me, but I'm not deeply knowledgeable in autotools: PKG_CHECK_MODULES(CURL, libcurl, [], [AC_MSG_FAILURE([libcurl not found])]) Sep 27 14:46:13 JaMa: i'm trying to flash this image: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100926-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Sep 27 14:46:31 Heinervdm: I flashed that yesterday Sep 27 14:46:32 JaMa: but i'm getting jffs2 errors Sep 27 14:46:40 but only .tar.gz Sep 27 14:46:42 ... seems to be a hard link Sep 27 14:46:46 what kind of jffs2 errors? Sep 27 14:46:55 mrmoku, also you should rebase for /tmpfs illume fixes Sep 27 14:47:05 GNUtoo|laptop: it boots fine even without usb cable Sep 27 14:47:16 just g_ether seems to be loaded too late Sep 27 14:47:22 (or ifup usb0 coming to soon) Sep 27 14:47:38 need to ifdown/ifup usb0 to get networking Sep 27 14:47:50 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, will rebase Sep 27 14:48:18 JaMa: sth seems to be a hard link, but now it booted Sep 27 14:49:24 uh my desktop looks ugly Sep 27 14:49:40 like folders only? Sep 27 14:49:44 yes Sep 27 14:50:03 strange that could be from .e/e/appshadow drop, but it worked here Sep 27 14:50:14 Heinervdm: shr-wizard went ok? Sep 27 14:50:20 JaMa: sort of Sep 27 14:50:28 ? Sep 27 14:50:34 i got the messeage that it faild to connect to fso Sep 27 14:50:47 if the first page was shown ok, then appshadow should be moved also ok Sep 27 14:50:54 and after that the next button didn't work again Sep 27 14:50:57 and then recreated ok Sep 27 14:51:20 mrmoku, ok Sep 27 14:51:31 JaMa: first page was shown ok Sep 27 14:51:32 mrmoku, so you flashed the kernel? Sep 27 14:51:36 maybe I should move .e/e/appshadow/* to tmpfs in shr-wizard instead removing it and then expecting it to be recreated in time Sep 27 14:52:07 Heinervdm: can you try: python /usr/share/shr-wizard/shr-wizard.py? Sep 27 14:52:09 JaMa: how should it be recreated Sep 27 14:52:23 Heinervdm: if it shows any error on that page with not-working next Sep 27 14:52:28 JaMa: no, i have to change the ip address to connect Sep 27 14:52:43 and without terminal i can't Sep 27 14:52:47 Heinervdm: enlightenment populates it when needed Sep 27 14:52:49 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, rebased and pushed Sep 27 14:52:54 GNUtoo|laptop: no, still booting with flasher Sep 27 14:52:59 ok thanks Sep 27 14:53:01 Heinervdm: and it did for me after reflash Sep 27 14:53:11 then how could you test without the usb cable plugged in at boot? Sep 27 14:53:24 JaMa: playing with latest shr-u some days ago, it took me some time to remember one should reboot after completing shr-wizard... Sep 27 14:53:29 I immediately pulled it after flasher loaded the kernel into the thing Sep 27 14:53:38 JaMa: could be useful to have a message pop up at the end Sep 27 14:53:49 GNUtoo|laptop: btw. poweroff seems to work too :) Sep 27 14:53:52 JaMa: perhaps it's because of these hard link errors... Sep 27 14:54:08 mrmoku, yes it seem Sep 27 14:54:18 but battery got discharged again Sep 27 14:54:22 :/ Sep 27 14:54:23 I must check Sep 27 14:54:34 maybe it was discharged before the poweroff Sep 27 14:54:59 so I can't say for sure if it doesn't work of if it does Sep 27 14:55:00 Heinervdm: I can push http://paste.pocoo.org/show/268043/, but don't know if it will help in your case :/ Sep 27 14:55:30 JaMa: don't know too Sep 27 14:55:44 but i can see an appshadow folder on my desktop Sep 27 14:55:51 so it's seems that it's there Sep 27 14:56:20 and it's empty or full of links to /usr/share/applications? Sep 27 14:56:32 can't open it Sep 27 14:56:33 named just 00xx.desktop IIRC Sep 27 14:56:35 ah :/ Sep 27 14:57:49 Heinervdm: can you temporary change ip on host side to connect to ne? Sep 27 14:57:51 neo? Sep 27 14:58:15 or boot from uSD to check where hard link was added? Sep 27 14:58:29 JaMa: what should i check? Sep 27 14:59:05 what's wrong with jffs2 (I didn't even know that hardlinks are problem on jffs2..) Sep 27 14:59:25 and after reboot you'll get icons right (90% sure) Sep 27 15:02:33 after reboot the icons are back Sep 27 15:02:45 but i'm still getting the hard link errors Sep 27 15:08:31 hi! I'm trying to build shr-lite-image and just at the end ;-( I get this error "opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package task-shr-minimal-fso" any hits? Sep 27 15:23:47 zeusone: check the rootfs log file and search for errors Sep 27 15:25:36 JaMa: that's my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/HkbzGyHW Sep 27 15:26:27 mrmoku: thanks Sep 27 15:42:04 Heinervdm: hmm one of those listed is ie /home/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/rootfs/shr-lite-image/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty Sep 27 15:42:50 -rw-r--r-- 6728 root root 6210 Jan 1 1970 /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy Sep 27 15:42:54 mrmoku, the new image works fine? Sep 27 15:42:57 or /home/shr/shr-unstable/tmp/rootfs/shr-lite-image/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable, no idea why those should be hardlinks Sep 27 15:43:13 I mean if I install the one with lastest rebase Sep 27 15:43:20 Heinervdm: it's just file not directory? Sep 27 15:43:22 that I just finished bitbaking Sep 27 15:43:28 JaMa: yes Sep 27 15:43:53 same for hicolor Sep 27 15:43:58 Heinervdm: then it's definetely somehow broken jffs :/ will check my tar.gz when I arrive home.. Sep 27 15:45:48 JaMa: in the tar.gz it's a normal directory Sep 27 15:45:59 GNUtoo|laptop: i installed watchdog manually... waiting for it to be charged before rebooting Sep 27 15:46:05 lindi-: congrats on your ftklib work! Sep 27 15:46:11 ok Sep 27 15:46:22 Heinervdm: something similar reported Weiss a long ago.. Sep 27 15:46:23 s/ftklib/rtklib/ Sep 27 15:46:23 vanous meant: lindi-: congrats on your rtklib work! Sep 27 15:46:27 mrmoku, are you afraid of flashing the kernel? Sep 27 15:46:38 GNUtoo|laptop: the only thing so far is the g_ether module being loaded too late Sep 27 15:46:39 Heinervdm: directories being files and even links somewhere else etc Sep 27 15:46:53 JaMa: strange Sep 27 15:46:55 GNUtoo|laptop: not afraid... but from time to time I boot to maemo Sep 27 15:46:57 mrmoku, on my local previous image g_ether worked fine Sep 27 15:47:06 yeah, on mine too Sep 27 15:47:13 Heinervdm: but afaik nothing jffs related was changed in last build Sep 27 15:47:15 vanous: thanks :) Sep 27 15:47:24 mrmoku, ok then maybe we should look why a flashed kenrel need an usb cable pluged in on both sides to boot Sep 27 15:47:25 maybe timing issue Sep 27 15:47:30 JaMa: perhaps it's just a strange error in the buildprocess Sep 27 15:47:48 GNUtoo|laptop: ahh, ok. I can as well flash it Sep 27 15:48:06 first I want to see if the watchdogs work and switch off r&d mode Sep 27 15:48:08 because we will need framebuffer console etc... to debug it Sep 27 15:48:08 ok Sep 27 15:48:10 indeed Sep 27 15:48:30 the watchdogs are in the lastest image? Sep 27 15:48:31 Heinervdm: ok, I'll cancel current build and start just images for gta02 Sep 27 15:48:32 that's another thing... I have no kernel output Sep 27 15:48:35 s/image/oe push Sep 27 15:48:38 yep Sep 27 15:48:41 s/oe/n900 Sep 27 15:48:44 ok Sep 27 15:48:46 I'll try it then Sep 27 15:48:49 in nokia900.conf Sep 27 15:49:02 JaMa: ok, then i will try those when they are finished Sep 27 15:49:25 Heinervdm: hmm a bit later.. qt-4.7.0 is building for htcdream and it would take long to resume do_compile there.. so in few hours I'll build those.. Sep 27 15:49:46 ok Sep 27 15:49:46 * JaMa -> home, bbl Sep 27 15:50:38 ok Sep 27 15:58:24 mrmoku, shouldn't we push the shr branch on oe too? Sep 27 15:58:36 s/shr/n900 Sep 27 15:58:51 like having oe<->shr for n900 branch Sep 27 15:59:31 btw same issue: Sep 27 15:59:37 backlight is 0 Sep 27 16:00:00 but ssh works Sep 27 16:00:34 and watchdog isn't in the image Sep 27 16:08:45 btw Sep 27 16:08:53 you seem to use trac for SHR Sep 27 16:09:02 I've another project with trac Sep 27 16:09:06 how can I be sure that : Sep 27 16:09:08 I'm admin Sep 27 16:09:11 and Sep 27 16:09:25 how can I modify/create milestones and components Sep 27 16:09:26 ? Sep 27 16:24:29 mrmoku, ping Sep 27 16:55:05 GNUtoo|laptop: pong Sep 27 16:55:28 GNUtoo|laptop: let me login to trac and check :) Sep 27 16:55:41 also vala-terminal is unusable Sep 27 16:55:42 ok Sep 27 16:55:56 thanks a lot for trac Sep 27 16:55:57 GNUtoo|laptop: if you're admin you should have an entry 'Admin' in the topbar menu Sep 27 16:56:04 ok thanks a lot Sep 27 16:56:07 np Sep 27 16:56:35 * mrmoku has a fully loaded battery and is going to flash a kernel now :) Sep 27 16:57:46 ok Sep 27 16:57:52 install or bitbake xterm btw Sep 27 16:57:58 because vala-terminal is unusable Sep 27 16:59:49 also: Sep 27 16:59:58 swtiching between apps seem not to work for me Sep 27 17:03:37 GNUtoo|laptop: why is it unusable? Sep 27 17:04:02 you can't see what you write Sep 27 17:04:06 at least on my image Sep 27 17:04:17 do you have the same issue? Sep 27 17:04:20 no Sep 27 17:04:23 works fine for me Sep 27 17:04:27 I mean the height of the lines are too small Sep 27 17:04:29 ok Sep 27 17:04:35 so must be my enlightenment-autorev Sep 27 17:04:44 I should have removed it when rebuilding from scratch Sep 27 17:04:46 ok Sep 27 17:05:34 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, I can confirm that it does not boot without usb being plugged in :( Sep 27 17:05:51 ok Sep 27 17:05:54 we must fix that Sep 27 17:06:02 yep Sep 27 17:06:10 difficult though... as it does not show anything Sep 27 17:06:14 just the nokia screen Sep 27 17:06:17 that's easy Sep 27 17:06:23 and then after 2s or so it vibrates and restarts Sep 27 17:06:27 just recompile the kenrel with framebuffer console Sep 27 17:06:32 vibrates? Sep 27 17:06:57 yep Sep 27 17:07:03 ok it doesn't vibrate for me Sep 27 17:07:04 like it does when you turn it on Sep 27 17:07:05 anyway Sep 27 17:07:14 I don't remember it vibrating Sep 27 17:33:22 n6303c disassembled and assembled ok :) beach sand removed.. Sep 27 17:33:29 now invisible shield for n900 :) Sep 27 17:35:24 JaMa: any link to where to get one? :) Sep 27 17:35:55 I bought it in czech eshop .. http://www.alza.cz/invisibleshield-nokia-n900-d175627.htm Sep 27 17:36:08 they have also front+back but front is imho enought Sep 27 17:42:44 JaMa: yes, just protecting the screen from scratches is a nice thing Sep 27 17:44:12 JaMa: hi, i got a question and i think you are the right one with answer :) Sep 27 17:44:25 JaMa: which compression method do you use with ubifs? Sep 27 17:45:00 JaMa: i see there is zlib or lzo, zlib has better compression, but lzo is faster - so i wonder which one have you chosen for SHR? Sep 27 17:54:54 radekp: both are enabled in kernel ubifs driver, but mkfs.ubifs is called without -x so default LZO is used, I don't think our cpu is fast enough to make zlib better Sep 27 17:55:17 radekp: btw thanks for your kernel patches, applied all last 3 to shr kernels Sep 27 17:55:20 hi guys Sep 27 17:55:28 JaMa: nice :) Sep 27 17:55:32 what do you think about a devroom name: Sep 27 17:55:35 1. openmoko Sep 27 17:55:41 2. hackable devices Sep 27 17:55:50 that's what I thought atm Sep 27 17:56:13 the second one got the invention that we can make the devroom larger Sep 27 17:56:26 for example the nitdroid guys can join us Sep 27 17:56:57 is nikolaus here? Sep 27 17:59:47 JaMa: i tried both but only for booting - i have 67s with lzo and 69 with zlib, but zlib is 11MB smaller (99MB:110MB) so maybe i will try to go with zlib for now Sep 27 18:00:46 radekp, #qtmoko please Sep 27 18:00:47 Serdar: from goldelico? Sep 27 18:00:55 never seen him in IRC Sep 27 18:01:09 yes Sep 27 18:01:10 hmm Sep 27 18:01:22 but very responsive to mails :) Sep 27 18:01:50 I guess my decision to use hackable device as a devroom name is better, but I will write on the mailing list Sep 27 18:02:11 do we have a poll somewhere? Sep 27 18:07:55 radekp: once I tried zlib (to check if it's worth it for gta01 with small nand) and it wasn't that different for me (but don't remember hos much MB the diff was) maybe we have more difficult files to compress :) Sep 27 18:08:55 JaMa: yes it could be... Sep 27 18:15:35 okay I sent a mail to the mailinglist, I hope there will be some response Sep 27 18:18:31 Heinervdm: still building qt4 :/ but it should be soon as it's already in demos folder Sep 27 18:49:27 JaMa: os.system( "ln -s /var/volatile/appshadow/ ~/.e/e/appshadow" ) Sep 27 18:49:45 JaMa: are you sure "mkdir /var/volatile/appshadow" won't be needed before that? Sep 27 18:50:12 (and after every boot :x) Sep 27 18:53:26 dos1: see initscripts-shr commit Sep 27 18:53:46 dos1: what about that Makefile.am change in fsodeviced? should I push it or will you? Sep 27 18:55:26 JaMa: oh, ok then Sep 27 18:55:54 JaMa: somehow it wasn't upgraded on my n900 Sep 27 18:57:00 dos1: what about http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/779/ ? Sep 27 18:57:01 JaMa: are we changing to 2.6.34 at the moment? Sep 27 18:57:17 JaMa: applied Sep 27 18:57:18 dos1: we can change to 2.6.34 with next cornucopia bump Sep 27 18:57:51 dos1: and vibration? http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/patch/778/ Sep 27 18:57:55 <[Rui]> cool, is 2.6.34 ok, finally? Sep 27 18:58:25 JaMa: this patch is in OE Sep 27 19:00:41 dos1: but the new one is different Sep 27 19:00:59 JaMa: yup, but i think it still should be in OE Sep 27 19:01:10 JaMa: frameworkd can be used on other devices than gta02 too Sep 27 19:01:14 dos1: I would like to push squashed version, but don't like that re.match for uname much :/ Sep 27 19:01:29 JaMa: and those devices can also use 2.6.32 Sep 27 19:01:41 dos1: ok.. I'll add it to OE then Sep 27 19:02:06 <[Rui]> N900 at 400€ in Portugal, FNAC. 360 if I become an adherent customer. Sep 27 19:02:28 <[Rui]> seems like a bargain, considering a couple of weeks ago I saw one for 600€ at Nokia store Sep 27 19:02:49 dos1: btw why not read max from sysfs node and use it (or 80% from it)? Sep 27 19:02:57 JaMa: 2.6.32 is buggy Sep 27 19:03:13 JaMa: shows 255 as max and you can set values from 0 to 255 Sep 27 19:03:14 JaMa: but Sep 27 19:03:43 JaMa: 0 is 0%, 64 is 100%, 65 is 0%, 128 is 100%, 129 is 0%... Sep 27 19:04:14 (or 63, 64, 127, 128) Sep 27 19:06:23 ah ok.. Sep 27 19:22:48 hi DocScrutinizer Sep 27 19:23:33 DocScrutinizer,I am running that script: http://pastebin.com/Hj3vEyh3 Sep 27 19:23:40 and my battery keeps discharging Sep 27 19:23:55