**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 02 02:59:57 2010 Oct 02 04:04:59 ~messybox Oct 02 04:05:00 messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils Oct 02 06:54:00 morning :) Oct 02 06:54:12 vanous: hey, what's up Oct 02 06:54:27 PaulFertser: super crazy busy day work here... Oct 02 06:54:39 vanous: on sat? Oct 02 06:54:40 were in Moscow last week Oct 02 06:54:49 the week before in London Oct 02 06:54:50 vanous: why didn't we meet then? Oct 02 06:54:56 :) Oct 02 06:54:56 huh Oct 02 06:55:04 PaulFertser: i thought you were in S. Petersburg? Oct 02 06:55:18 shut Oct 02 06:55:22 vanous: that's gena2x who's in S.Petersburg. Oct 02 06:55:25 should have ping you Oct 02 06:55:30 my fault Oct 02 06:55:39 i had one night free Oct 02 06:55:47 vanous: my week was quite busy anyway tbh. Oct 02 06:55:57 vanous: i hope you enjoyed RU at least somewhat :) Oct 02 06:56:00 well, just about to pack and drive to Munich Oct 02 06:56:05 RU is always good Oct 02 06:56:20 i go sometime once, sometimes more times a year Oct 02 06:56:42 except the traffic, but i can bear this for a few days Oct 02 06:56:53 so your major is down now...? Oct 02 06:58:03 i can see framework updating today, was there any changes rgt gprs? Oct 02 06:59:56 i was hoping this would be it with traveling for this fall, but after Munich, Macau got into my way... family getting a bit more nervous, then when by the computer @ home :) Oct 02 07:08:58 vanous: haha, yes, he's down on the ground. Oct 02 07:10:48 gta01 and 02 have the same wifi chip? Oct 02 07:17:49 tmzt_: gta01 lacks wifi chip. Oct 02 07:18:02 ah, it was never decided then Oct 02 07:18:36 I'm reading an old thread, we were trying to figure out why a tegra device would have ar600x and if it could do injection (softap) Oct 02 07:18:50 and somewhere in the back of my mind I knew that Oct 02 08:11:08 |nschle85|: yep, got your key Oct 02 08:11:18 |nschle85|: do you prefer shr-manual or shr-docs as repo name? Oct 02 08:11:50 I think shr-docs would be broader to contain even stuff like a building howto and other things Oct 02 08:14:39 |nschle85|: ok, I very much prefer shr-docs :-) so I called it that way Oct 02 08:15:10 |nschle85|: git+shr://git@git.shr-project.org/shr-docs.git is the address Oct 02 08:21:41 vanous: some day I will respond to your mail :/ Oct 02 10:35:49 mrmoku, hi, sorry but yesterday was with gf, couldn't look at evopedia stuff. In which state is it now? still no launching once you get the entry in its own gui? Oct 02 10:38:22 pespin: yup Oct 02 10:39:20 mrmoku, ok, will speak about this with the developer. Ay intersting output in terminal? Oct 02 10:53:31 pespin: could not check as vala-terminal is broken... and ssh did neither work Oct 02 10:56:00 lol ok Oct 02 10:56:16 mrmoku, did you have to change anything on the recipe? Oct 02 11:04:47 pespin: dunno, JaMa built it Oct 02 11:05:01 pespin: if you have a current shr-u and want to try for yourself Oct 02 11:05:33 * mrmoku checks logs for urls Oct 02 11:06:16 mrmoku, I didn't ade last update from some days ago, wiating for things to be usable as I need the phone :) Oct 02 11:06:26 s/ade/made Oct 02 11:06:54 who wants present SHR? Oct 02 11:06:59 and FSO Oct 02 11:07:02 at FOSDEM11 Oct 02 11:07:06 need a volenteer Oct 02 11:07:11 pespin: ok Oct 02 11:07:23 pespin: will retry a bit later Oct 02 11:07:24 mrmoku, afaik there are several hings broken, am Iwrong? Oct 02 11:07:28 and openmoko Oct 02 11:07:39 pespin: well... fonts are a bit big Oct 02 11:07:54 leading to the config dialogs being a little bit difficult to operate :P Oct 02 11:08:08 but otherwise it looked good... apart from not being able to see the articles Oct 02 11:08:13 neither via index, nor via map Oct 02 11:08:19 mrmoku, what's with you? :) Oct 02 11:08:30 Serdar: sorry, no Oct 02 11:08:42 I won't even be able to come Oct 02 11:08:42 mrmoku, I think you are speaking about evopedia, I meant shr-u :) Oct 02 11:08:50 pespin: ahh :;P Oct 02 11:09:01 pespin: well... GPRS is broken for sure Oct 02 11:09:09 gtk apps are broken too Oct 02 11:09:11 don't use GPRS Oct 02 11:09:21 hen I'll wait for gtk+ apps to work hehe Oct 02 11:09:29 hen/then Oct 02 11:10:18 mrmoku, btw, I'm starting to add some confiuration on usb networking on shr-settings, so it's easy to change it from there. Oct 02 11:10:51 pespin: yeah, saw that Oct 02 11:10:56 but I hought that it may be great to have some support on FSO, what do you think? Oct 02 11:11:25 afaik there's some module named fsonetworkd, that would be a good place maybe? Oct 02 11:11:34 pespin: well... we need some final solution... and that probably means support for connman including a plugin for fso Oct 02 11:12:05 fsonetworkd is used for connection sharing... offers gprs including dhcp to a laptop Oct 02 11:12:24 but it might as well do other networking stuff, yes Oct 02 11:12:33 should talk to mickey about where to go Oct 02 11:13:19 ok, I might look at the code and speak with him. I don't have so much time this days, univerisity with boloigne plan steals a lot of time hehe Oct 02 11:19:04 JaMa: if I add keyboard to MACHINE_FEATURES of n900... do I have to bump PR of task-base to get it picked up? Oct 02 11:22:53 mickey|away, hi, could you delete a branch on freesmartphone.org? Oct 02 11:35:45 hello Oct 02 12:02:48 I need a volenteer for FOSDEM11 for FSO, SHR and Openmoko Oct 02 12:08:57 Serdar1, hi Oct 02 12:09:02 for making a presentation? Oct 02 12:44:58 ahm could anyone tell me how to put switch the orientation into a app icon or onto a button? Oct 02 12:47:17 propably I will tell xrandr to do a rotation, and put that into a script. but from ther on it would be niche to get some information, as ths is a bit diferent than hackabel1 Oct 02 12:48:59 oh and autosleep is not very nice when orientation is switched - It gets back scrambled Oct 02 13:03:43 mrmoku: almost everything from that evopedia recipe needed to be changed ;/ Oct 02 13:04:23 mrmoku: and probably need bump in task-base, but I would grep if it's really used only there Oct 02 13:06:42 mrmoku: I'll push evopedia recipe as is.. posible fix will be probably only SRCREV bump anyways.. Oct 02 13:11:33 JaMa: ok, thanks Oct 02 13:11:59 GNUtoo|laptop: I found out why MatchProduct and such did not work Oct 02 13:12:08 GNUtoo|laptop: it is for InputClass not InputDevice section :P Oct 02 13:12:31 ok Oct 02 13:14:44 JaMa: task-boot uses it too :-) Oct 02 13:24:32 * JaMa leaving for party, cya tomorrow Oct 02 13:27:01 JaMa|Off: have fun :) Oct 02 13:33:45 anyone know how to swich keyboard on and off in shr/illume, with the old profile where there is no button in the top shelf? Oct 02 13:34:21 I want to put that on a button, too... Oct 02 13:36:54 peopably too highlevel questions... Oct 02 13:37:54 flo: just slide shelf out, there is "qwerty" or "kbd" button (depending on theme) Oct 02 13:39:40 dos1, sounds like you are talking about illume1 Oct 02 13:39:45 yup Oct 02 13:39:58 even I'm not that outdated :P Oct 02 13:40:27 yeah, I know but not on my theme as my install is based on unstable from 2009/09 from here http://flexible.xapient.net/?p=120 Oct 02 13:40:44 oh Oct 02 13:42:33 in hackable1, the keyboard is bound to the aux button (with short press, log press gets you a menu to swap orientation etc.). I found that really useful Oct 02 13:48:20 the reason I tinker around with this is that I tried the unstable version from may, which worked...partly. the wireless connecting appacted a bit wired, and I the sliding with shelf < left or right > arrows just didnt appear. Also in this old image, there are may things preconfigured Oct 02 13:51:06 ah I am wrong. I mean the shr testing version from may. Should I go with unstable ? how is the shape of it right now? Oct 02 13:51:09 TAsn: "with the old profile" :P Oct 02 13:51:59 so i assumed he is asking about illume1 Oct 02 13:53:09 true. I am not shure If I should try an upgrade, and this configuration seems to work quite ok, in contrast to all other stuff I tried Oct 02 14:25:57 dos1, yeah, I spoke before reading the backlog Oct 02 14:59:49 GNUtoo|laptop, yes makeing and holding it Oct 02 15:00:08 I'll think about it Oct 02 15:00:39 maybe me and some other people(leviathan won't come, so maybe morphis,mickeyl,etc...) Oct 02 15:00:56 could do a presentation about port on other phones than openmoko ones Oct 02 15:00:56 okay Oct 02 15:01:04 but It's just an idea I had Oct 02 15:02:28 I wrote a list of presentations on the mailking list Oct 02 15:02:33 ok Oct 02 15:02:36 I'll look Oct 02 15:02:53 but I must go very very soon Oct 02 15:02:55 if you thought about it, please tell me that and following informations: Oct 02 15:03:20 your full name Oct 02 15:03:31 the name of your presentation Oct 02 15:03:32 your bio Oct 02 15:03:33 it's not sure yet Oct 02 15:03:36 a pic Oct 02 15:03:47 I must contact morphis,mickeyl etc... Oct 02 15:03:48 before Oct 02 15:03:52 and a short description of the presentation Oct 02 15:03:55 ok Oct 02 15:04:07 I hope mickey will do 2 presentation like this year Oct 02 15:04:24 about openmoko itself and FSO Oct 02 15:04:30 and also the presentation is not written yet Oct 02 15:04:39 altough I can re-use stuff Oct 02 15:04:48 I wrote from one I started to make Oct 02 15:05:21 where's the list of presentations? Oct 02 15:05:32 mickey|away: ping Oct 02 15:05:48 Serdar1, ^^^ Oct 02 15:05:55 (for the list of presentations) Oct 02 15:06:40 because I must go Oct 02 15:06:47 I just wanted to look before going Oct 02 15:07:20 I mean I don't find the mail Oct 02 15:07:42 ah I found it Oct 02 15:07:43 I would love if some people who can help on following topics can contact me: Oct 02 15:08:17 basically I'm one of the key people behind the htcdream port Oct 02 15:08:27 I'll go and send a mail about that later Oct 02 15:08:31 bye Oct 02 15:11:55 hm, my shr-u rootfs (SD) just shredded itself pretty completely Oct 02 15:19:51 heyho Oct 02 16:41:43 mickey|away, ping Oct 02 16:41:49 2 things Oct 02 16:42:03 *someone has to delete a branch in the fso kernel Oct 02 16:42:17 *we must discuss what to do for the n900 kernel Oct 02 16:47:49 please, check http://scap.linuxtogo.org , I've just uploaded some screens about SHR using efenniht theme, and they look awesome ;) Oct 02 16:49:44 I have both the elm and the e17 edj files in case someone wanna try it :) edc are available in e svn repo Oct 02 17:12:11 playya__, hi btw you wrote modoko, how good is it, are there some screenshots? Oct 02 17:31:53 hi dos1 Oct 02 17:33:10 GNUtoo|laptop, no real progress, because vala didn't support async delegates at that time Oct 02 17:33:33 ok Oct 02 17:34:03 but should be support when jürg merges my async branch into master Oct 02 17:39:08 ok Oct 02 17:53:57 hello Oct 02 18:10:22 hi dos1 Oct 02 18:10:52 GNUtoo|laptop: hi Oct 02 18:11:19 dos1, I want to check something: Oct 02 18:11:49 here: Oct 02 18:11:50 http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-wizard.git;a=commit;h=43e51663262d85dd6e1c9fafadf26b95fe5a2ef9 Oct 02 18:12:00 I don't understand how it works Oct 02 18:12:12 where's the text stored? Oct 02 18:12:15 for the firmwares Oct 02 18:12:26 I want to check if the wiki page address is ok Oct 02 18:12:35 the one I made on firmwares Oct 02 18:14:24 because I made this page: Oct 02 18:14:25 http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/firmwares Oct 02 18:14:35 and I wonder if it's at the right address Oct 02 18:42:03 GNUtoo|laptop: I guess I have the same problems you had back then... don't get usb net to run with the new kernel Oct 02 18:42:15 GNUtoo|laptop: g_ether get's loaded and interface is up Oct 02 18:42:21 GNUtoo|laptop: host side is up too Oct 02 18:42:25 GNUtoo|laptop: but I can't ping Oct 02 18:42:32 ok :( Oct 02 18:42:56 mrmoku, what about g_ehter? Oct 02 18:43:05 s/g_ether/g_nokia// Oct 02 18:43:09 tried that too Oct 02 18:43:18 ifdown usb0 Oct 02 18:43:21 ifup usb0 Oct 02 18:43:24 tried that too :P Oct 02 18:43:25 on device Oct 02 18:43:36 but I could get usb with some trick Oct 02 18:43:39 ... Oct 02 18:43:42 I'll try Oct 02 18:43:48 but nothing is pushed Oct 02 18:43:55 maybe you should do a 2.6.35 branch Oct 02 18:43:57 for n900 Oct 02 18:44:08 GNUtoo|laptop: well... no need Oct 02 18:44:12 it's a different recipe, no? Oct 02 18:44:55 ? Oct 02 18:45:09 you have xorg.conf that work with both? Oct 02 18:45:21 GNUtoo|laptop: no, not yet Oct 02 18:45:35 so how can I test your changes? Oct 02 18:45:41 to try to make usbnet work Oct 02 18:46:18 GNUtoo|laptop: I can push the kernel stuff I did Oct 02 18:46:29 ok Oct 02 18:46:35 hmmm Oct 02 18:46:43 what did you made exactly? Oct 02 18:47:06 I added the meego patches to linux_2.6.35.bb for nokia900 Oct 02 18:47:27 ah ok Oct 02 18:47:32 maybe I should take a closer look at defconfig Oct 02 18:47:37 yes Oct 02 18:47:40 but not only Oct 02 18:47:45 we need touchscreen Oct 02 18:47:59 so a branch might be better for stuff that colides Oct 02 18:48:10 a different xorg.conf... yes Oct 02 18:48:21 what if I can make one that works on both? Oct 02 18:48:28 it's better Oct 02 18:48:36 to make it work on both Oct 02 18:48:46 but how would that be possible? Oct 02 18:48:59 should I try with 2.6.28 Oct 02 18:48:59 ? Oct 02 18:49:34 by using "InputClass" instead of "InputDevice" Oct 02 18:50:04 yes I didn't remember the name Oct 02 18:50:08 GNUtoo|laptop: http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_nokia-n900-configs/blobs/master/nokia-n900-input-rules.conf Oct 02 18:50:11 could you try it? Oct 02 18:50:26 ah ok I'll try Oct 02 18:50:27 yup Oct 02 18:50:31 let's try both :-) Oct 02 18:51:04 GNUtoo|laptop: another problem I have is backlight not being handled by fsodeviced anymore Oct 02 18:51:09 have to investigate that one Oct 02 18:51:15 backlight is on while booting Oct 02 18:51:18 but then goes off Oct 02 18:51:23 I know why Oct 02 18:51:28 there is an option in 2.6.28 Oct 02 18:51:30 for omap Oct 02 18:51:56 the sysfsnode for backlight is there Oct 02 18:52:04 I can manually echo into it to turn backlight on Oct 02 18:54:45 ah ok Oct 02 18:54:49 let me look Oct 02 18:58:03 I don't find it Oct 02 18:58:05 hmmm Oct 02 18:58:07 where was it Oct 02 18:58:10 maybe in 35 Oct 02 19:04:33 GNUtoo|laptop: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Firmware is in shr-wizard Oct 02 19:05:13 GNUtoo|laptop: and it's in shr-settings.git, as shr-wizard just displays shr-settings modules in wizard form Oct 02 19:05:31 dos1, ouch we made 2 different pages Oct 02 19:06:02 GNUtoo|laptop: just merge them somehow ;) Oct 02 19:06:11 ok Oct 02 19:15:05 GNUtoo|laptop: CONFIG_USB_ETH_EEM=y Oct 02 19:15:12 any opinion on that one? Oct 02 19:15:29 I don't know on that one Oct 02 19:15:42 I'm still looking for the option that detect the bootloader backlight state Oct 02 19:16:18 ahh Oct 02 19:17:44 GNUtoo|laptop: I have FB_OMAP_BOOTLOADER_INIT Oct 02 19:17:52 Check bootloader initialization Oct 02 19:18:25 ok Oct 02 19:18:28 where is it Oct 02 19:18:29 ? Oct 02 19:18:42 ok found it Oct 02 19:18:44 with search Oct 02 19:18:55 yep, like me :) Oct 02 19:19:01 brb Oct 02 19:19:06 ok Oct 02 19:19:15 I don't know then Oct 02 19:19:18 I must look Oct 02 19:19:25 but I want touchscreen working Oct 02 19:19:28 before looking Oct 02 19:23:50 mrmoku, btw I found that: Oct 02 19:23:51 http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg25630.html Oct 02 19:23:58 grep for bootloader Oct 02 19:34:25 <[Rui]> nice black theme! Oct 02 19:34:39 GNUtoo|laptop: that panel we have with the new kernel Oct 02 19:34:46 guess it comes with one of the meego patches Oct 02 19:35:50 ok Oct 02 19:36:57 I must look Oct 02 19:37:41 but I remember that when I put the bar of shr-settings backlight to the minimum Oct 02 19:37:44 and then increase it Oct 02 19:37:48 it worked sometime Oct 02 19:37:55 but I do not remember the kernel Oct 02 19:37:58 version Oct 02 19:39:01 rebuilding with that bootloader thing enabled and EEM disabled for g_ether Oct 02 20:03:46 mrmoku, EEM? Oct 02 20:03:57 I'm really tired this night Oct 02 20:09:15 mrmoku, is touchscreen working? Oct 02 20:09:21 on 2.6.35? Oct 02 20:11:12 GNUtoo|laptop: not with InputClass Oct 02 20:11:23 ah ok Oct 02 20:11:27 so make a branch Oct 02 20:11:28 with InputDevice and the Calibration line in there it works fine Oct 02 20:11:34 yeah :/ Oct 02 20:11:45 EEM = Ethernet Emulation Mode Oct 02 20:13:35 ok Oct 02 20:13:43 I'll go to sleep soon Oct 02 20:13:52 too bad I'm too tired Oct 02 20:15:03 GNUtoo|laptop: ok... gnight then :-) Oct 02 21:25:06 JaMa|Off: ping Oct 02 21:33:51 mickey|away, ping? Oct 02 21:35:31 <[Rui]> Serdar: would love it if he was already back too :) Oct 02 22:30:45 [Rui], I need someone who accept to make a presentation about FSO and Openmoko at FOSDEM11 Oct 02 22:35:10 <[Rui]> Serdar: I don't know enough for all that, but mickey|away should be back soon. Oct 02 22:35:32 <[Rui]> Serdar: he's on vacations, and I think he's supposed to come back this weekend or this week. Oct 02 22:36:56 if I am not here please tell him to contact me. Oct 02 22:57:01 <[Rui]> Serdar: sure Oct 02 23:05:27 Serdar, send him a memo **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 03 02:59:57 2010