**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 22 02:59:58 2010
Oct 22 05:35:56 <JaMa|Zzz> playya_: that's all? the build log shows "null" I guess missing some vapi include? but I'll try
Oct 22 05:36:07 <JaMa|Zzz> NOTE: Running task 7002 of 10606
Oct 22 07:00:37 <Mirv> hmm, what's the benefit of the 100Hz patch? (http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/kernel/0001-Use-100-as-HZ-value-on-S3C24XX.patch) and what's the Hz now?
Oct 22 07:00:53 <Mirv> I guess if it's higher currently, lowering would improve speed
Oct 22 07:03:30 <JaMa|W> Mirv: shr kernel: SHR root@gjama / $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep HZ
Oct 22 07:03:30 <JaMa|W> CONFIG_HZ=200
Oct 22 07:04:03 <JaMa|W> Mirv: afaik: higher makes lower latencies but higher power consumption
Oct 22 07:04:50 <daniele_athome> morning
Oct 22 07:05:00 <daniele_athome> TAsn: morning :)
Oct 22 07:05:41 <JaMa|W> moin daniele
Oct 22 07:06:17 <daniele_athome> hi JaMa|W 
Oct 22 07:06:28 <daniele_athome> i hope |W doesn't mean Windows JaMa|W :P
Oct 22 07:07:27 <JaMa|W> it does :( also Work (that's why windows)
Oct 22 07:11:42 <daniele_athome> ok :)
Oct 22 07:12:26 <JaMa|W> at least irssi is running @home :)
Oct 22 07:22:38 <daniele_athome> JaMa|W, big upgrade today! :)
Oct 22 07:22:51 <daniele_athome> starting now
Oct 22 07:23:31 <daniele_athome> JaMa|W, did you notice that sometimes the first time a connect the FR via usb is not detected by the kernel
Oct 22 07:23:38 <daniele_athome> and i need to disconnect and reconnect again
Oct 22 07:23:38 <daniele_athome> ?
Oct 22 08:10:28 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: I noticed that too, not too serious, though :)
Oct 22 08:10:47 <daniele_athome> [Rui], indeed it's not serious, just noticed :)
Oct 22 08:10:55 <[Rui]> JaMa|W: beenrunning 2010/10/19 image with new kernel quite well.
Oct 22 08:11:08 <[Rui]> morning all, btw :)
Oct 22 08:11:16 <daniele_athome> morning [Rui] ;)
Oct 22 08:12:02 <daniele_athome> [Rui], i can't develop on mokojeweled during this period
Oct 22 08:12:09 <daniele_athome> :( sorry to much to do
Oct 22 08:12:25 <daniele_athome> and mokosuite itself is a very big project (although i have another one much bigger to be done)
Oct 22 08:13:03 <[Rui]> daniele_athome: hey, np :)
Oct 22 08:13:17 <[Rui]> my vacations are over so elmdentica work went *waaaaay* down :|
Oct 22 08:13:28 <daniele_athome> sometimes i feel like mickeyl
Oct 22 08:13:42 <daniele_athome> too many things to do, i should focus on fewer ones
Oct 22 08:54:34 <daniele_athome> JaMa|W, i see you removed evdev
Oct 22 08:54:39 <daniele_athome> so no options required
Oct 22 08:54:44 <daniele_athome> for swap axis JaMa|W isn't it?
Oct 22 08:54:47 <daniele_athome> *right
Oct 22 08:54:48 <daniele_athome> ?
Oct 22 09:01:02 <JaMa|W> daniele_athome: with jitter free kernel driver we can jump back to evdev
Oct 22 09:01:22 <JaMa|W> daniele_athome: only [Rui] will be sad because no Emulate3button option
Oct 22 09:01:43 <JaMa|W> and yes tslib worked fine on default calibration
Oct 22 09:02:03 <daniele_athome> ok
Oct 22 09:02:09 <daniele_athome> i've just rebooted
Oct 22 09:02:14 <daniele_athome> works like a charm :)
Oct 22 09:06:46 <Arigead> morning all. After a full build and install "<x>" ain't showing up even after a reboot. Can I ask what process or package that is part of. I can't kill apps
Oct 22 09:08:31 <JaMa|W> shr_elm_softkey
Oct 22 09:08:44 <Arigead> thank you
Oct 22 09:09:33 <JaMa|W> and it's started by its .desktop file from  ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order now
Oct 22 09:11:44 <Arigead> I'll check that out. It's not started on my build so maybe my update from earlier in the week missed that. I'm rebooting now but I'll check it out.
Oct 22 09:13:38 <JaMa|W> if you're talking about shr-u then distro_pr change should force ALL packages to upgrade..
Oct 22 09:25:15 <Arigead> my ~/.e/e/applications/startup/ directory is empty as. I must have totally messed up as I've not top menu bar with the gsm signal strength and battery status now. When I booted I got big icons on the desktop and tried in settings to make them smaller. I must have messed up I'll reflash the fs
Oct 22 09:27:43 <JaMa|W> big icons are known issue (as I said in tests images thread on ML)
Oct 22 09:28:29 <JaMa|W> Arigead: did you remove your ~/.e?
Oct 22 09:29:21 <Arigead> JaMa|W: Nope I'll try that 
Oct 22 09:29:22 <JaMa|W> Arigead: you need to run shr-wizard at least once (as also stated in some older thread on ML)
Oct 22 09:38:20 <JaMa|W> playya_: fsogsmd built ok with new rev+ newer msmcommd, linux-palmpre still needs loadkeys
Oct 22 09:38:56 <JaMa|W> playya_: if you maintain linux-palmpre recipe you should add kbd-native to DEPENDS http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=fe0535e783b5b4514f924a59ba6b4f6f46dd456c
Oct 22 10:19:13 <JaMa|W> grr lvm2 doesn't build with new eglibc.. no palmpre images!
Oct 22 10:20:52 <JaMa|W> but it's really easy to fix those (just add #include stat/stat.h to right files)
Oct 22 10:21:25 <JaMa|W> I'm rebuilding from scratch locally.. so cannot prepare that patch now, someone else?
Oct 22 10:22:57 <JaMa|W> | filter-sysfs.c:(.text+0x20c): undefined reference to `S_ISLNK'
Oct 22 10:23:02 <JaMa|W> maybe only to this file :)
Oct 22 10:27:08 <JaMa|W> hmm fixed.. now lunch
Oct 22 10:44:28 <Azog> i just tested the new shr-unstable-image, usb-networking works again, bute gps finds no satellites, is this a known bug?
Oct 22 12:56:21 <playya_> JaMa|W, i hav a patch to build for palmpre
Oct 22 12:56:54 <JaMa|W> playya_: ?
Oct 22 12:56:59 <JaMa|W> Azog: no
Oct 22 12:57:15 <playya_> +#include <sys/stat.h>
Oct 22 12:57:30 <JaMa|W> I've already pushed that
Oct 22 12:57:35 <playya_> ok
Oct 22 12:57:59 <JaMa|W> http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=3f307f24f6e74aa903e0f6479f06392f5460abf3
Oct 22 13:30:40 <pespin> JaMa|W, could you apply this (http://pespin.espeweb.net/patches/0001-e-wm-Add-desktop-file-for-efm.patch) or tell me when you want me to remember it to you?
Oct 22 13:38:16 <JaMa|W> pespin: I've expected Heinervdm to apply it as I don't know anything about efm..
Oct 22 13:38:46 <Heinervdm> JaMa|W: and i expected the same from you for the same reason ;)
Oct 22 13:39:59 <JaMa|W> ah :)
Oct 22 13:40:51 <JaMa|W> I guess you know more:) "efm-{nav, path, pathbar}: add new recipes"
Oct 22 13:58:27 <pespin> JaMa|W, Heinervdm, well, who¡s gonna do it finally? xD
Oct 22 13:59:13 <Heinervdm> pespin: this icon is shown in the topbar?
Oct 22 13:59:20 <Heinervdm> and only for illume?
Oct 22 13:59:43 <pespin> Heinervdm, it's for desktop file
Oct 22 13:59:52 <pespin> Heinervdm, you can open it from desktop
Oct 22 14:00:05 * JaMa|W is leaving and then goes to theater.. so /me not
Oct 22 14:00:07 <pespin> Heinervdm, we already have too much things in topbar, don't wanna put another one hehe
Oct 22 14:00:37 <Heinervdm> but that icon will also show on other e17 installations?
Oct 22 14:00:40 <pespin> Heinervdm, I'm using that .desktop file in my shr without problems
Oct 22 14:01:09 <pespin> Heinervdm, I think yes, there's nothing shr specific there
Oct 22 14:01:19 <pespin> don't know how to do it shr specific
Oct 22 14:02:27 <Heinervdm> pespin: i don't know if this is ok. If i force e.g. Koen to have an efm icon on his desktop, i don't know what he will say ;)
Oct 22 14:02:49 <JaMa|W> you can create new PACKAGE for it+icon if needed
Oct 22 14:03:21 <JaMa|W> i mean in e-wm recipe as ${PN}-efm or whatever
Oct 22 14:03:35 <Heinervdm> efm-icon
Oct 22 14:03:58 <Heinervdm> or efm is a seperate module, isn't it?
Oct 22 14:04:21 <pespin> Heinervdm, it comes in when building e17 with dfault settings
Oct 22 14:04:25 <Heinervdm> then one can make a package for this module and this icon
Oct 22 14:04:45 <JaMa|W>  opkg files e-wm | grep efm -> empty
Oct 22 14:05:00 <Heinervdm> ok, then just an icon
Oct 22 14:05:14 <JaMa|W> I guess it's "fileman" module
Oct 22 14:05:32 <JaMa|W> /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/fileman/module.desktop
Oct 22 14:05:40 <JaMa|W> isn't it what you need?
Oct 22 14:06:23 <pespin> I'll look at it in a mment, I'm still having launch ;)
Oct 22 14:12:44 <pespin> JaMa|W, ok, but we should modify it to add an Exec field to call it using enlightenment_remote
Oct 22 14:13:16 <pespin> and link it in /usr/share/applications, isn't it?
Oct 22 14:14:27 <JaMa|W> yeah probably, but you can reuse as much as possible, also the icon e-module-fileman
Oct 22 14:15:07 <pespin> JaMa|W, uhmm I have that desktop file in my computer, but I there's none in SHR/om-gta02
Oct 22 14:16:06 <pespin> oh wait, I think I looked in the wrong dir hehe
Oct 22 14:16:31 <pespin> ok, it's there, everything ok, sorry
Oct 22 14:18:34 <pespin> JaMa|W, anyway, should I try creating a new packages which just copies a modified version of it into /usr/share/applications?
Oct 22 14:19:39 <JaMa|W> new subpackage could be better as Heinervdm said not everybody wants efm icon on desktop (I also prefer to start it from menu when needed instead icon always shown on desktop)
Oct 22 14:22:24 <creeper__> moin
Oct 22 14:23:06 <pespin> JaMa|Theater, ok will look into it when I've time
Oct 22 15:47:51 <morphis> heyho
Oct 22 16:11:51 <morphis> mickey|office: ping
Oct 22 16:12:09 <morphis> hm
Oct 22 17:51:01 <daniele_athome> TAsn: ping
Oct 22 18:36:43 <TAsn> daniele_athome, pong.
Oct 22 18:36:54 <TAsn> well
Oct 22 18:36:57 <TAsn> at least a drunk pong. :P
Oct 22 18:37:21 <daniele_athome> TAsn, lol
Oct 22 18:37:34 <daniele_athome> i'm looking forward to push framework TAsn :P
Oct 22 18:38:17 <TAsn> haha, tomorrow.
Oct 22 18:42:11 <daniele_athome> lol :)
Oct 22 18:42:14 <daniele_athome> goodnight TAsn :)
Oct 22 18:42:39 <TAsn> remind me, please :)
Oct 22 18:42:49 <daniele_athome> TAsn, ok
Oct 22 18:42:52 <daniele_athome> go
Oct 22 18:42:54 <daniele_athome> ing
Oct 22 21:36:34 <[Rui]> hi all
Oct 22 22:38:26 <[Rui]> TAsn: how long was it between your "what's your address?" email and confirmation of shipping? Just to know how long to expect :)
Oct 22 22:39:51 <[Rui]> off to bed
Oct 22 23:03:22 <[Rui]> back, I think we're having some problems when wifi is used with 2.6.34.7
Oct 22 23:05:21 <[Rui]> JaMa|Zzzz: hope it was nice
Oct 22 23:10:35 <TAsn> [Rui], hm..
Oct 22 23:10:44 <TAsn> [Rui], a day
Oct 22 23:11:08 <[Rui]> TAsn: not a good sign :)
Oct 22 23:11:19 <TAsn> :P
Oct 22 23:12:01 <TAsn> Just checked, answered them on the 12th and they shipped it on the 13th.
Oct 22 23:12:15 <TAsn> [Rui], maybe it's a holiday in hong kong?
Oct 22 23:12:47 <TAsn> [Rui], on the other hand, what's not a good sign
Oct 22 23:13:11 <TAsn> is that it left hong kong on the 20th, and I still haven't got any update about it's arrival :P
Oct 22 23:13:22 <TAsn> it's a freaking airplane
Oct 22 23:13:28 <TAsn> wth is taking it so long?
Oct 22 23:13:34 <[Rui]> TAsn: possibly it's a freaking boat :)
Oct 22 23:13:44 <[Rui]> even though you paid for an airplane :)
Oct 22 23:14:12 <[Rui]> I don't expect something from China to arrive in three days, but an email I expect to have a reply sooner than a week :)
Oct 22 23:14:13 <TAsn> [Rui], I think I paid for a plane
Oct 22 23:14:15 <TAsn> but no idea.
Oct 22 23:14:32 <TAsn> :|
Oct 22 23:15:20 <[Rui]> even if by plane, maybe they wait for a certain amount of shippings to a destination, probably also in a pool of shops, in order to take some bundle discounts
Oct 22 23:16:18 <TAsn> no
Oct 22 23:16:24 <[Rui]> dealextreme, otoh, was quite quick sending my 2.5->3.5+mic cable... hasn't arrived yet but they said they sent it.
Oct 22 23:16:25 <TAsn> the hong kong post
Oct 22 23:16:27 <TAsn> said
Oct 22 23:16:35 <TAsn> it left
Oct 22 23:16:38 <TAsn> i.e got on a plane
Oct 22 23:16:47 <TAsn> I'm talking about package tracking
Oct 22 23:16:52 <[Rui]> TAsn: ok. possibly it's held in customs :|
Oct 22 23:17:00 <TAsn> usually
Oct 22 23:17:12 <TAsn> the israeli post
Oct 22 23:17:18 <TAsn> should update me about such annoyances
Oct 22 23:17:51 <TAsn> anyhow
Oct 22 23:17:56 <[Rui]> if they're anything like ours, a long time afterwards you get a notice and still have to pay a lot :)
Oct 22 23:18:08 <TAsn> I only have to pay VAT
Oct 22 23:18:14 <TAsn> for some reason we don't have customs tax
Oct 22 23:18:17 <TAsn> on 
Oct 22 23:18:19 <TAsn> tablets
Oct 22 23:18:36 <[Rui]> neat
Oct 22 23:18:36 <TAsn> I guess it's because Israel is a huge consumer of apple products
Oct 22 23:18:37 <JaMa|Zzzz> [Rui]: yup it was
Oct 22 23:18:49 <TAsn> and they set it when the iPad got out
Oct 22 23:18:52 <TAsn> or something. :|
Oct 22 23:18:54 <[Rui]> JaMa|Zzzz: great! :) 
Oct 22 23:19:13 <TAsn> Have you heard about a government giving her ministers
Oct 22 23:19:20 <TAsn> iphones ?
Oct 22 23:20:51 <TAsn> her/it's
Oct 22 23:20:58 <TAsn> we don't have "it" in Hebrew
Oct 22 23:21:01 <TAsn> :)
Oct 22 23:21:02 <[Rui]> I heard of EU giving MEPs iPads (and I think I read a news headling about a similar thing somewhere else this week)
Oct 22 23:21:15 <TAsn> Yeah, they are also talking about iPads
Oct 22 23:21:49 <[Rui]> The only good reason for an iPad, IMHO, is if you're blind (really blind) as I've heard wonders of it's blindness support
Oct 22 23:22:16 <TAsn> they want to make the house of representatives "high-techie"
Oct 22 23:22:40 <TAsn> so they thought about putting iPads there (or at least I think it was ipads)
Oct 22 23:22:52 <TAsn> Anyhow, I'm off.
Oct 22 23:24:15 <[Rui]> TAsn: see ya, I only came here to fsck my µ-sd as soon after turning on wifi it got unusable and had to force it off
Oct 22 23:24:33 <TAsn> :>
Oct 22 23:42:53 <[Rui]> gah... no evas-loader-gif in shr-u!
Oct 22 23:43:08 <[Rui]> how can I view Peanuts... (converting on local PC)
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