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Oct 24 04:36:06 <JaMa> NOTE: Running task 15496 of 17413
Oct 24 04:39:27 <JaMa> leviathan_: this is build from scratch..
Oct 24 04:44:34 <JaMa> [Rui]: so elmdentica should depend on edje and sqlite and not depend or sqlite-native?
Oct 24 04:44:48 <[Rui]> JaMa: morning!
Oct 24 04:45:06 <[Rui]> JaMa: elmdentica depends on edje by transitivity (from elementary), so only right for sqlite
Oct 24 04:45:18 <[Rui]> JaMa: but elementary is not being compiled properly
Oct 24 04:45:41 <[Rui]> there's a missing file  /usr/lib/edje/modules/elm/.../module.so
Oct 24 04:45:57 <[Rui]> ... is some linux id version (it has x64 in my pc
Oct 24 04:46:32 <[Rui]> [rms@roque bin]$ ls /usr/lib64/edje/modules/elm/linux-gnu-x86_64-1.0.0/
Oct 24 04:46:32 <[Rui]> module.la  module.so
Oct 24 04:46:44 <[Rui]> this is missing in shr
Oct 24 04:46:53 <[Rui]> and it shouldn't
Oct 24 04:47:04 <[Rui]> well, not exactly that path, of course, but a similar one
Oct 24 04:49:16 <[Rui]> hipothesis => this may be related to our misterious illume home issue or it doesn't use any elm at all?
Oct 24 04:57:16 <JaMa> mmt checking
Oct 24 04:57:27 <JaMa> edje package has only 1 .so here too
Oct 24 05:05:13 <JaMa> ah that's part of elementary build not edje
Oct 24 05:06:39 <[Rui]> yes
Oct 24 05:25:00 * JaMa applied most of those efl updates from profusion.mobi
Oct 24 05:25:16 <JaMa> [Rui]: can you remind me where you wanted that gif support, please? evas?
Oct 24 05:25:39 <[Rui]> JaMa: I think so, evas-loader-FUBAR is from evas right?
Oct 24 05:25:48 <JaMa> remove --disable-image-loader-gif right?
Oct 24 05:26:02 <JaMa> yup from evas
Oct 24 05:26:39 <[Rui]> yes
Oct 24 05:48:35 <[Rui]> JaMa: and I'm getting system freezes with wifi enabled
Oct 24 05:48:50 <[Rui]> just enabling wifi and waiting for a bit
Oct 24 06:01:27 <JaMa> [Rui]: I'm not using wifi much on my gta so haven't seen that (gta is just sitting on my desk home and usually needs charging)
Oct 24 06:01:41 <JaMa> that's why I'm using usbnet instead wifi connectivity
Oct 24 06:01:58 * [Rui] nods
Oct 24 06:02:18 <JaMa> do we want iliwi in lite images?
Oct 24 07:26:57 <JaMa> grr with latest EFL shr-wizard is somehow skipped :/
Oct 24 07:27:06 <JaMa> but will push it anyways
Oct 24 07:29:52 <JaMa> good that was my fault, "don't try to test images without dbus daemon running"
Oct 24 07:38:51 <JaMa> [Rui]: EFL update and requested updates are pushed, you can rebuild your elmdentica (t starts here OK)
Oct 24 09:18:42 <daniele_athome> morning!!!
Oct 24 09:37:48 <leviathan_> daniele_athome: moin
Oct 24 09:46:32 <daniele_athome> hi leviathan_ 
Oct 24 10:43:45 <[Rui]> back
Oct 24 10:45:06 <[Rui]> JaMa|Gym: sorry, I was sleeplessso I only went to bed 4.5 hours ago
Oct 24 10:45:21 <[Rui]> JaMa|Gym: iliwi in lite might be good
Oct 24 10:46:39 <[Rui]> JaMa|Gym: modulo the freeze :)
Oct 24 11:11:47 <morphis> heyho
Oct 24 11:17:51 <daniele_athome> JaMa|Gym, i think for the next mokosuite release would be better to create a directory mokosuite2/ because recipes will be many more
Oct 24 11:17:54 <daniele_athome> hi morphis 
Oct 24 11:29:28 <JaMa|Gym> daniele_athome: sure, no problem with that
Oct 24 11:30:00 <JaMa> new gta images NOTE: Running task 6165 of 10903
Oct 24 11:32:06 <JaMa> morphis: heyho, do you maintain linux-palmpre recipe? I guess so :)
Oct 24 11:32:21 <JaMa> morphis: then you should add kbd-native to it as you're using loadkeys during build
Oct 24 11:32:21 <morphis> JaMa: yes
Oct 24 11:32:38 <morphis> JaMa: whats kbd-native?
Oct 24 11:32:45 <morphis> tools for keyboard?
Oct 24 11:33:23 <JaMa> ./openmoko-cdevel-2010-09-29:16:03 < JaMa> | loadkeys --mktable drivers/char/defkeymap_joplin.map > drivers/char/defkeymap.c.tmp
Oct 24 11:33:49 <JaMa> ./openmoko-cdevel-2010-10-22:11:35 < JaMa|W> playya_: if you maintain linux-palmpre recipe you should add kbd-native to DEPENDS http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=fe0535e783b5b4514f924a59ba6b4f6f46dd456c
Oct 24 11:34:52 <morphis> JaMa: where is this line " loadkeys --mktable drivers/char/defkeymap_joplin.map > drivers/char/defkeymap.c.tmp"
Oct 24 11:35:01 <JaMa> morphis: in kernel build
Oct 24 11:35:10 <morphis> _2.6.24.bb one?
Oct 24 11:35:24 <JaMa> whatever is default for pre images
Oct 24 11:35:33 <morphis> linux-palmpre_git.bb
Oct 24 11:36:00 <morphis> ah ok its in the source itself
Oct 24 11:36:09 <JaMa> shr buildhost doesn't have native kbd.. that's why I had to add kbd-native to OE
Oct 24 11:36:13 <morphis> I searched through the *.bb files and found  nothing :)
Oct 24 11:36:19 <JaMa> and now I have to build it before linux-palmpre
Oct 24 11:36:20 <morphis> ok, will add it
Oct 24 11:36:28 <JaMa> thx
Oct 24 11:36:51 <JaMa> maybe you doesn't need it if you update defconfig...
Oct 24 11:37:04 <JaMa> but I don't know pre and now it's calling it :)
Oct 24 11:39:24 <morphis> ok
Oct 24 11:39:57 <morphis> btw. why we don't have a PR in files like linux-palmpre_2.6.24.bb?
Oct 24 11:40:22 <morphis> I don't found it even in other files with names like linux-*_2.6.*.bb
Oct 24 11:40:46 <morphis> if I would change defconfig for this kernels it requires PR bump right?
Oct 24 11:41:58 <JaMa> morphis: you can add PR.. some recipes have it, but there is also MACHINE_KERNEL_PR which is usefull for off the tree modules
Oct 24 11:42:18 <JaMa> yes every change resulting to different target packages needs PR change
Oct 24 11:49:42 <morphis> so I have KV = "2.6.24", PR = "r1" and PV = "${PV}.${PR}"?
Oct 24 11:52:04 <JaMa> PV looks wrong
Oct 24 11:52:31 <JaMa> PR is appended to package version (PKGV) if you add it to PV then you will have it twice
Oct 24 11:53:38 <JaMa> sometimes you can see it in form of PV = "1.0-${PR}+gitr${SRCREV}" where is PR used instead SRCPV to force higher PV when SRCREV is changed
Oct 24 11:53:50 <morphis> ok
Oct 24 11:54:02 <morphis> so just define PR?
Oct 24 11:56:19 <JaMa> yes
Oct 24 11:56:58 <JaMa> someone experienced with gdk drawing?
Oct 24 12:05:28 <morphis> hm I have defined a PR = "r1" in my linux-palmpre_2.6.24.bb and it uses another one (maybe the one from linux.inc) "linux-palmpre-2.6.24-r90"
Oct 24 12:07:22 <JaMa> ./include/omap3.inc:MACHINE_KERNEL_PR = "r90"
Oct 24 12:07:34 <morphis> ah ok
Oct 24 12:07:52 <JaMa> I guess it's from here (conf/machine/include..)
Oct 24 12:08:06 <JaMa> sorry I didn't notice it's used also in palmpre
Oct 24 12:08:09 <morphis> so  have to to something like PR="$MACHINE_KERNEL_PR}.1"?
Oct 24 12:08:25 <morphis> or how can I override MACHINE_KERNEL_PR?
Oct 24 12:09:21 <JaMa> kernel.bbclass always overwrites PR with MACHINE_KERNEL_PR if defined :/
Oct 24 12:09:44 <morphis> hm
Oct 24 12:09:51 <morphis> so no chance to do so?
Oct 24 12:10:01 <dos1> set MACHINE_KERNEL_PR from palmpre.conf, or linux-palmpre recipe?
Oct 24 12:10:23 <dos1> nokia900 does that from machine config
Oct 24 12:11:14 <morphis> hm ok
Oct 24 12:11:48 <JaMa> yup machine config looks like best place
Oct 24 12:11:55 <morphis> or is it possible to do something like MACHINE_KERNEL_PR = "${MACHINE_KERNEL_PR}.1" in kernel recipe?
Oct 24 12:12:08 <JaMa> morphis: and your original question about PR was about changed DEPENDS or defconfig?
Oct 24 12:12:15 <morphis> DEPENDS
Oct 24 12:12:24 <morphis> I have to bump PR if I add DEPENDS
Oct 24 12:12:30 <morphis> so it gets rebuild
Oct 24 12:12:42 <JaMa> morphis: ah then sorry, no need to change PR in this case
Oct 24 12:12:48 <morphis> really?
Oct 24 12:12:56 <JaMa> as it's only "build fix" which shouldn't change resulting packages
Oct 24 12:13:24 <[Rui]> had some problem with libvpx... cleaning recipe and trying again
Oct 24 12:13:33 <JaMa> sometimes it does when added dependency is then autodetected by configure script and resulting package is different but that's not the case now
Oct 24 12:13:42 <JaMa> [Rui]: update first
Oct 24 12:13:53 <JaMa> [Rui]: I've pushed fix few mins ago
Oct 24 12:13:58 <[Rui]> I had updated just half an hour ago :)
Oct 24 12:14:30 <JaMa> fixed 21 mins ago
Oct 24 12:14:39 <JaMa> half an hour ago I was still at gym :P
Oct 24 12:15:54 <[Rui]> well, circa half hour, when you came back and told me efl was update
Oct 24 12:17:11 <[Rui]> it takes so long to parse tge recipes
Oct 24 12:17:49 <JaMa> just see if last commit in your checkout is mine
Oct 24 12:18:00 <[Rui]> yeah it was
Oct 24 12:22:44 <JaMa> [Rui]: and does it build ok after cleaning?
Oct 24 12:22:44 <JaMa> here it does
Oct 24 12:23:14 <[Rui]> JaMa: at least it's proceeding, but I saw some 404 not found related to a vpx recipe
Oct 24 12:24:29 <JaMa> those are from PREMIRRORS (I guess) and then safe
Oct 24 12:24:50 <JaMa> all SCM checkouts are first tried to download from shr buildhost and when not found then checkouted from SCM
Oct 24 12:24:56 <[Rui]> when I saw it proceed I thought they'd be not much of a problem
Oct 24 12:25:09 <JaMa> and every SCM build creates .tar.gz of checkout in downloads dir
Oct 24 12:25:20 <[Rui]> JaMa: that efl update is not yet in shr-u repo right? just test/shr-u?
Oct 24 12:25:46 <JaMa> you mean feed?
Oct 24 12:25:54 <JaMa> it's building now
Oct 24 12:25:56 <[Rui]> yup
Oct 24 12:25:57 <[Rui]> ok
Oct 24 12:26:27 <JaMa> but I had to clean toolchain for armv4 (for last changes) so it will take at least 5-6 hours (if lucky)
Oct 24 12:27:09 <JaMa> that's also why you will see those 404 more often today :) because buildhost didn't prepare those .tar.gz for new efl yet
Oct 24 12:29:06 <[Rui]> hehe
Oct 24 12:31:47 <[Rui]> JaMa: I'll see if I can make that PC boot today... what's the preferred OS  for the buildhost?
Oct 24 12:34:52 <JaMa> I'm using minimal chroot based on gentoo (because it's also distro I use the most)
Oct 24 12:35:27 <JaMa> but buildhost OS should have (in theory) minimal impact
Oct 24 12:36:07 <JaMa> mrmoku is using fedora, shr buildhost debian and /me gentoo, many OE people are using ubuntu
Oct 24 12:36:53 <JaMa> but don't use darwin :) there are still few issues, but kergoth is trying to fix those lately :)
Oct 24 12:40:44 <[Rui]> I use fedora too.
Oct 24 13:24:16 <[Rui]> well... I'm upgrading efl from my packages :)
Oct 24 13:33:01 <[Rui]> JaMa: lite and full are still missing ca-certificates by default
Oct 24 13:36:53 <[Rui]> at least I don't see any reasoning for ssl not working by default in any image
Oct 24 13:38:56 <morphis> JaMa: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=openembedded.git;a=commit;h=447701cf31293f36e23f3eb68b3e38a389dd4c8c
Oct 24 13:38:59 <morphis> JaMa: ok?
Oct 24 13:44:21 <[Rui]> shit genlist's longpressed isn't working???
Oct 24 14:03:44 <JaMa> any hint why I don't see any points :( http://pastebin.ca/1971863
Oct 24 14:04:48 <JaMa> morphis: +=
Oct 24 14:05:12 <JaMa> morphis: you have some DEPENDS from kernel.bbclass and you don't want to overwrite it
Oct 24 14:06:54 <JaMa> [Rui]: well eve doesn't RDEPEND on it and nothing else pulls it to image.. but I should add it to task-shr-minimal
Oct 24 14:08:05 <[Rui]> JaMa: yeah, that would be best, because other apps need it to use ssl properly as well
Oct 24 14:09:20 <JaMa> yes.. before we're using ventura to pull it to image.. but as you said it's usefull for other apps so I'll add it to tash-shr-minimal-apps directly
Oct 24 14:19:25 <morphis> JaMa: ah damn it
Oct 24 14:31:55 <morphis> JaMa: updated
Oct 24 14:32:09 <morphis> will push it now to oe.git
Oct 24 14:34:56 <[Rui]> I'm not understanding why I can't make a local build of elmdentica
Oct 24 14:35:11 <[Rui]> from my local source directory
Oct 24 14:38:04 <CIA-47> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07fso-api-docs * r756b03761230 10/Makefile: Add makefile to generate api documentation
Oct 24 14:38:57 <CIA-47> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07fso-api-docs * r614c5234483b 10/html/ (9992 files in 31 dirs): Add initial auto-generated API documentation of FSO libs
Oct 24 14:46:37 <mrmoku> JaMa: I'm using your chroot too these days :)
Oct 24 15:06:45 * JaMa fixed his gdk testcase but even drawing 480x590 points with gdk doesn't crash Xserver :/
Oct 24 15:20:30 <[Rui]> are file:// oe uris still not working?
Oct 24 16:31:29 <alexxy> hi all
Oct 24 16:31:53 <alexxy> seems i have intresting bug with shr-illume2 theme on shr-u
Oct 24 16:32:09 <alexxy> apps icons can be placed only in two collumns 
Oct 24 16:32:10 <alexxy> =)
Oct 24 16:42:27 <pespin> alexxy, yeah, everybody with new images is suffering that ;)
Oct 24 16:44:11 <alexxy> i know :)
Oct 24 16:44:32 <alexxy> so is there some  kind of sollition or workaround?
Oct 24 17:22:02 <CIA-47> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07gdbus * rd943ee1b26de 10cornucopia/libfsoframework/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libfsoframework: bump dependencies, prepare for gdbus
Oct 24 17:23:25 <mickeyl> morphis: do you need morphis/testing in cornucopia? (5 months old)
Oct 24 17:24:34 <morphis> mickeyl: no
Oct 24 17:24:50 <morphis> mickeyl: do you read my jabber messages?
Oct 24 17:25:59 <mickeyl> ok, deleted
Oct 24 17:26:20 <mickeyl> morphis: ya, read them. there was some traffic about those folks on the gta04 list
Oct 24 17:26:27 <mickeyl> let me get you a link to the archives
Oct 24 17:27:13 <mickeyl> ah, darn, only for subscribers
Oct 24 17:27:29 <mickeyl> well, bottom line was not much excitement
Oct 24 17:28:36 <mickeyl> nikolaus said
Oct 24 17:28:36 <mickeyl> Hier auch noch ein Artikel:
Oct 24 17:28:36 <mickeyl>         http://www.inside-handy.de/news/19559.html
Oct 24 17:28:36 <mickeyl> Interessant ist auch das hier:
Oct 24 17:28:36 <mickeyl> Bei den Synapse-Phones Produkten handelt es sich in aller Regel um speziell nach Bestellung produzierte Produkte und nicht um übliche Handelsware. Aus diesem Grund ist das Widerrufsrecht für Fernabsatzverträge gemäß § 312d Abs. 4 Nr. 1 BGB für die speziell produzierte Ware ausgeschlossen. Eine Produktion dieser Ware erfolgt erst nach Ihrer Bestellung und nach Ihren Wünschen.
Oct 24 17:28:40 <mickeyl> Ich denke das ist eine Idee aus einem Businessplan-Wettbewerb. Und mehr als ein paar Kontakte nach Asien und einer schönen Webseite existiert nicht. Und statt einer Kundenbefragung sammeln sie gleich Vorbestellungen ein.
Oct 24 17:28:44 <mickeyl> Die Leute findet man auch weder bei XING noch LinkedIn (zumindest habe ich sie nicht gefunden).
Oct 24 17:29:10 <mickeyl> perhaps we can stefan_schmidt to checkout the situation
Oct 24 17:29:13 <mickeyl> +get
Oct 24 17:29:28 <morphis> ok
Oct 24 17:32:28 <morphis> would be nice
Oct 24 17:33:21 <morphis> gta04 ml?
Oct 24 17:34:57 <morphis> mickeyl: ah great there is a gdbus branch :)
Oct 24 17:35:13 <morphis> so you started working on it
Oct 24 17:36:57 <mickeyl> yeah, http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/gta04-devel
Oct 24 17:37:15 <mickeyl> yes, first commit 
Oct 24 17:37:34 <mickeyl> will start with libfsoframework, which does most of the lowlevel subsystem dbus registration
Oct 24 17:37:50 <mickeyl> then grab a small subsystem, perhaps fsodatad
Oct 24 17:37:53 <mickeyl> and try to port it over
Oct 24 17:40:08 <morphis> ok
Oct 24 17:40:22 <morphis> btw. I commited a first version of fso-api-docs
Oct 24 17:40:32 <mickeyl> ah, nice
Oct 24 17:40:32 <morphis> it's not very usable from git
Oct 24 17:40:37 <morphis> like specs
Oct 24 17:42:27 <morphis> so we have to export it to some place out of git to display it in the www
Oct 24 17:42:36 <morphis> maybe via git-hooks or so
Oct 24 17:49:17 <mickeyl> right
Oct 24 17:49:21 <mickeyl> bbiab, dinner
Oct 24 19:51:05 <[Rui]> pespin: WRT the columns in illume home, it's related to the icon labels
Oct 24 19:51:20 <[Rui]> if you get a big one (eg, install vagallume) it becomes one column.
Oct 24 19:52:05 <pespin> [Rui], is someone from #e looking at it? we could ask devilhorns or someone else
Oct 24 19:52:32 <[Rui]> pespin: I think devilhors looked into it previously, but couldn't find what was doing it.
Oct 24 19:52:41 <[Rui]> pespin: my guess, local theme in shr
Oct 24 19:52:42 <pespin> going to have dinner, bbl
Oct 24 19:52:55 <pespin> [Rui], well, maybe that "label does it" hint helps him :)
Oct 24 19:53:14 <pespin> [Rui], I think it happens with all themes (not sure, but afaik Jama tried with several themes)
Oct 24 19:53:27 <[Rui]> ok
Oct 24 20:02:16 <dos1> aaaaw, how nice
Oct 24 20:02:26 <dos1> opkg cares about me
Oct 24 20:02:49 <dos1> it made sure that i will have something to do and i won't be bored
Oct 24 20:03:23 <dos1> so it destroyed file with status of all packages and now it thinks that nothing is installed...
Oct 24 20:04:34 <dos1> and enlightenment upgrade wasn't complete, so it doesn't boot... and something is also wrong with kernel, as usb networking does not work
Oct 24 20:04:36 <dos1> how nice ;]
Oct 24 20:23:10 <pespin|away> dos1, congratulations, you've a marvellous brick ;)
Oct 24 20:24:05 <dos1> pespin: i won't reflash! :P
Oct 24 20:25:47 <pespin> dos1, lol you should write your memories about fighting against gta-02 reflashes, it would be a greater story than Odissey :P
Oct 24 20:25:56 <dos1> hehe ;)
Oct 24 20:26:42 <dos1> this image has exactly year and two days now
Oct 24 22:00:00 <daniele_athome> greetings
Oct 24 22:01:29 <daniele_athome> i'm experiencing system freezes too much frequently with kernel 2.6.34
Oct 24 22:16:42 <daniele_athome> i posted a patch for shr-themes but it's too big :(
Oct 24 22:16:45 <daniele_athome> please someone approve it
Oct 24 22:16:59 * TAsn hides
Oct 24 22:17:08 * TAsn forgot about opimd
Oct 24 22:17:13 <TAsn> :)
Oct 24 22:17:21 <TAsn> daniele_athome, please remind me tomorrow :(((
Oct 24 22:17:23 <TAsn> so sorry.
Oct 24 22:17:26 <TAsn> night.
Oct 24 22:17:29 <daniele_athome> TAsn, night :)
Oct 24 22:19:33 <daniele_athome> Ainulindale, you are the ml admin, aren't you?
Oct 24 22:19:39 <daniele_athome> if i remember correctly
Oct 24 22:21:29 <daniele_athome> anyway goodnight :)
Oct 24 22:59:48 <[Rui]> yay I think I just had a freeze without wifi
Oct 24 23:01:53 <[Rui]> or not... appears to have recovered...
Oct 25 00:01:40 <JaMa> rebuild will finish today :) hurray :)
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