**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 29 02:59:57 2010 Oct 29 04:59:53 moin Oct 29 06:01:10 moin Oct 29 06:07:55 mrmoku: btw yesterday released 1.1 meego images look much better than 1.2 snapshot I've used 1.1.80.3.20101022.1 Oct 29 06:08:46 at least they have xterm installed with icon :), but still pretty slow (as warned on announcement) Oct 29 06:23:38 JaMa|Off: ahh, ok :) Oct 29 06:24:03 JaMa|Off: there seem to be bigger problems with the maemo kernel though Oct 29 06:24:11 sucks power somewhere Oct 29 06:32:00 I have strange issues with power off, when I use halt to stop SHR or meego, then it doesn't want to boot without removing battery first and also drains power :/ Oct 29 06:32:45 it's even quite hot, when I keep it (supposedly off) in openmoko pouch for a while.. Oct 29 06:47:01 mrmoku: tried to kexec from maemo to 2.6.35 shr and "kexec -e" didn't work (I have no logs from it, so cannot say why.. I just lost connection to n900) and maemo doesn't respond now Oct 29 06:48:06 heh :/ Oct 29 06:50:37 and kexec from maemo doesn't show --debug option :/ Oct 29 06:51:24 JaMa|Off: it's supposed that kexec was never disabled but there went in the new pr1.3 kernel some fixes backported from upstream. Oct 29 06:51:52 JaMa|Off: so you can probably take kexec userspace executable from other source (debian package?). Oct 29 06:51:54 yes I know.. but I have pr1.3 so I hoped it would work now Oct 29 06:52:18 ok, I'll try kexec from meego Oct 29 06:52:50 kexec-tools 2.0.1_git released 31 March 2010 Oct 29 06:53:12 is 2.0.1.git-maemo3 Oct 29 06:54:59 BTW, is iotop available? Oct 29 06:55:19 Probably that's some obvious userspace component wasting power? Oct 29 06:58:08 hmm kexec to meego kernel also doesn't work Oct 29 06:58:33 morning Oct 29 08:47:04 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rbd1cf960b76d 10/msmcommd/src/frame.vala: msmcommd: rename crc_result to CRC_MAGIC and make it const (for playya :) Oct 29 08:47:20 yeah :) Oct 29 11:24:18 hi DocScrutinizer Oct 29 11:24:20 I've that: Oct 29 11:24:22 Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 WallCharger: 0 Battery Voltage: 4143 NAC: 545 Battery level: 26 % Oct 29 11:24:22 Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 WallCharger: 0 Battery Voltage: 4159 NAC: 2056 Battery level: 100 % Oct 29 11:24:31 I bet it's not normal Oct 29 11:24:44 when restarting the script it still says 100% Oct 29 11:25:16 I'll shutdown and reboot the device Oct 29 11:25:29 maybe it's temperature related? Oct 29 11:25:42 because I just put the phone near the fan output of my laptop Oct 29 11:33:25 hmmm Oct 29 11:33:29 now it says 99% Oct 29 11:33:36 is my battery broken? Oct 29 11:53:23 hi mrmoku Oct 29 11:53:39 on my laptop there is an S99ondemand init script Oct 29 11:53:52 we could import that in the shr-initscripts? Oct 29 11:54:03 for n900 etc... Oct 29 12:23:01 mickey|office, hi, you + have + a + new + bug Oct 29 12:23:21 (like the you have a new message with phones) Oct 29 12:23:53 smooth = down breaks backlight intensity changing in fso for n900 Oct 29 12:29:28 mickey|office, btw you should talk to morphis+sre Oct 29 12:29:49 about libisi<->fso integration Oct 29 12:30:09 also I'm not sure if I should work on libisi Oct 29 12:30:18 I don't want to polute it with low quality code Oct 29 12:31:55 trying to run on n900? Oct 29 12:32:10 ? Oct 29 12:32:25 yes I ran libisi and its test on n900 Oct 29 12:32:42 sre fixed the build system Oct 29 12:32:52 so now with: Oct 29 12:32:54 oe_runmake Oct 29 12:32:59 oe_runmake test Oct 29 12:33:02 it works Oct 29 12:33:05 before it failed Oct 29 12:42:26 GNUtoo|laptop: hi, what does ondemand do? Oct 29 12:46:34 basically by default the cpu and the rest is at a fixed frequency Oct 29 12:46:41 500Mhz Oct 29 12:46:44 which is bad Oct 29 12:46:58 ondemand activate the ondemand governor Oct 29 12:47:58 http://pastebin.com/0iCuexWv Oct 29 12:50:29 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm... I just installed buildhost image and it has ondemand Oct 29 12:50:35 root@nokia900 ~ # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor Oct 29 12:50:38 ondemand Oct 29 12:50:40 root@nokia900 ~ # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq Oct 29 12:50:43 249600 Oct 29 12:51:41 strange Oct 29 12:51:45 did you flash the kernel? Oct 29 12:51:46 ahh... wait Oct 29 12:51:48 no Oct 29 12:51:49 :P Oct 29 12:51:53 that is maemo kernel Oct 29 12:51:57 indeed Oct 29 12:52:24 and if _we_ configure ondemand as default it does not boot, right? Oct 29 12:53:11 no Oct 29 12:53:26 it didn't want to boot with ondemand by defualt Oct 29 12:53:30 we can retry tough Oct 29 12:53:33 ahh Oct 29 12:53:53 that would be easier, no? Oct 29 12:54:04 yes Oct 29 12:55:45 GNUtoo|laptop: btw. PowerButton does *not* work under X... even when configured correctly in Xorg.conf Oct 29 12:56:01 I know Oct 29 12:56:04 cat /dev/input/event0 shows me nicely the button press Oct 29 12:56:08 we must change defconfig Oct 29 12:56:08 but xev keeps silent Oct 29 12:56:13 ah? Oct 29 12:56:20 strange Oct 29 12:56:30 root@nokia900 ~ # cat /sys/class/input/input0/name Oct 29 12:56:31 triton2-pwrbutton Oct 29 12:56:59 [4117412.476] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD) Oct 29 12:57:04 hmmm Oct 29 12:57:12 I'll try Oct 29 12:57:45 ohhh Oct 29 12:57:50 [4117413.510] (II) config/udev: Adding input device triton2-pwrbutton (/dev/input/event0) Oct 29 12:58:08 that udev/xorg conf manager thing JaMa activated seems to work :) Oct 29 12:58:18 * mrmoku retries with power button removed Oct 29 12:59:43 does not work either Oct 29 13:02:09 [ 539.344] (WW) triton2-pwrbutton: device file is duplicate. Ignoring. Oct 29 13:03:29 maybe we should tell it's a keyboard,button or something like that Oct 29 13:05:23 GNUtoo|laptop: I removed the PowerButton from xorg.conf.. .then I have no device file is duplicate Oct 29 13:05:37 [4119502.063] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us" Oct 29 13:05:41 is maybe strange though Oct 29 13:05:51 [4119502.039] (**) triton2-pwrbutton: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall" Oct 29 13:09:36 it works Oct 29 13:10:01 http://pastebin.com/fhCpVn63 Oct 29 13:11:29 with kbd driver... hmm Oct 29 13:12:27 which behave very bad... Oct 29 13:12:31 try vala-terminal.... Oct 29 13:18:31 GNUtoo|laptop: you mean the normal keyboard? Oct 29 13:18:45 yes Oct 29 13:18:52 maybe man evdev Oct 29 13:19:10 but you have kbd for the normal keyboard too Oct 29 13:19:19 instead of evdev Oct 29 13:19:32 btw. now InputClass with MatchProduct works :) Oct 29 13:20:02 GNUtoo|laptop: http://shr.pastebin.com/K49ARbYW Oct 29 13:20:11 and the power button works nicely :) Oct 29 13:20:34 ohh... touchscreen does not Oct 29 13:20:40 lol Oct 29 13:20:42 ouch Oct 29 13:20:49 restart X again? Oct 29 13:21:08 or maybe we try sre's xorg.conf Oct 29 13:23:14 convert everything to MatchProduct maybe Oct 29 13:25:32 yeah, trying that now Oct 29 13:26:24 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm... he's using tslib Oct 29 13:26:33 and has no touchscreen in his xorg.conf Oct 29 13:27:02 then make your own with MatchProduct everywhere for /dev/input Oct 29 13:27:34 yeah, did that Oct 29 13:27:39 and? Oct 29 13:27:40 touchscreen works... but is mirrored :/ Oct 29 13:27:46 ok Oct 29 13:27:46 upside down Oct 29 13:27:52 then just do invertY Oct 29 13:32:02 GNUtoo|laptop: works better... but not perfect Oct 29 13:32:08 can't reach the topbar Oct 29 13:34:09 hmm... xinput_calibrator does not work Oct 29 13:38:08 GNUtoo|laptop: ohh, now I understand... with old configuration as InputDevice touchscreen works perfectly Oct 29 13:38:14 until I press the PowerButton Oct 29 13:38:20 then it does not work anymore at all Oct 29 13:43:31 hmmm Oct 29 13:43:56 I've to go soon Oct 29 13:45:57 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, will try to find out how to do it... Oct 29 13:46:17 maybe we just need to adjust udev config Oct 29 13:46:26 ENV{ID_INPUT_MOUSE}==1, ENV{x11_driver}="vmmouse" Oct 29 13:46:40 so you can set via udev what x11 should do Oct 29 13:46:43 hello Oct 29 13:46:44 will try to find out... Oct 29 13:46:46 daniele_athome: hi Oct 29 14:44:26 already left :( Oct 29 14:48:10 hi, I'm not aware to have been modified something related to usb, but since yesterday I have no usb networking nor can't connect to gsm network. Oct 29 14:48:36 I get lot's of this lines in dmesg -> "hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 Oct 29 14:50:52 it doesn't suspend automatically neither Oct 29 14:51:59 uhm fsousage is not running, but there's no fsousage log in /var/log Oct 29 14:54:13 launching fsousaged manually worked Oct 29 14:54:23 did frameworkd -s fsousaged before, but didn't work Oct 29 14:54:48 pespin: should that work? Oct 29 14:55:07 starting new fso2 vala thingie with old python frameworkd? Oct 29 14:55:44 mrmoku, no idea hehe Oct 29 14:56:00 well, fsousaged is running, but I continue with same problems I think Oct 29 14:56:58 I get lots of this message too when I connect the FR to the PC Oct 29 14:56:59 ub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 Oct 29 14:59:28 util/ui-utils.c:529:2: error: implicit declaration of function 'elm_list_mode_set' --- Strange this built earlier in the week. Didn't think I'd updated. I must have missed something? Oct 29 14:59:30 FRcharges ok though Oct 29 15:00:17 omg I'm getting a party of different errors now xD Oct 29 15:01:33 Arigead: opkg info elementary? Oct 29 15:02:04 Arigead: ah build.. which EFL_SRCREV do you have now? Oct 29 15:02:35 I get same errors when connectir FR to other PCs u.u Oct 29 15:02:52 Arigead: and libphone-ui-shr is autorev so it's using newer rev and you have to update OE, to get EFL_SRCREV new enought to build it Oct 29 15:02:52 I'll reflash tomorrow Oct 29 15:03:05 Arigead: or just read last commit in libphone-ui-shr repo Oct 29 15:03:06 JaMa, did new shr-u image finish already? :) Oct 29 15:03:25 pespin: 20101028 are new enough Oct 29 15:03:51 JaMa: thanks for that Oct 29 15:04:00 ok thnx Oct 29 15:04:19 Arigead: libphone-ui-shr is AUTOREV Oct 29 15:04:29 heh Oct 29 15:04:33 again Oct 29 15:04:50 * mrmoku sticks a note on his laptop to _always_ finish reading backlog :P Oct 29 15:05:32 hehe Oct 29 15:05:52 mrmoku, well, it seems you already do, but you do it after answering :P Oct 29 15:05:56 mrmoku: thanks anyhow. Note to self about reading commits Oct 29 15:07:53 pespin: yeah... omitted the part 'before responding' :P Oct 29 15:08:05 JaMa: btw. udev/xconfig thing is nice Oct 29 15:17:13 mrmoku: :) btw I've also changed IMAGE_DEV_MANAGER to drop udev only for gta0* where we know devtmpfs is enough Oct 29 15:20:54 ok Oct 29 15:21:29 JaMa: strangly touchscreen configured via udev does not work correctly... it then needs InvertY and still is not working perfect Oct 29 15:22:00 and the power button works when configured as kbd (instead of evdev)... but then touchscreen stops working after first power button press :P Oct 29 15:25:26 on n900? Oct 29 15:26:39 and I know that power button fails to evdev and then fallbacks to kbd on gta02 (that's why I kept xf86-input-kbd in gta02) otherwise it said worse error about fallback kbd not available Oct 29 15:28:51 yup, n900 Oct 29 15:30:22 JaMa: configured like this: http://shr.pastebin.com/K49ARbYW Oct 29 15:30:39 the power button works nicely... but somehow makes the touchscreen go boom Oct 29 15:33:02 and 2.6.35 or 28? Oct 29 15:34:32 JaMa: .28 Oct 29 15:34:37 stock maemo kernel Oct 29 15:34:40 (as of PR1.1 :P) Oct 29 15:34:58 hi mrmoku Oct 29 15:35:08 I've found another thing to add to the TODO Oct 29 15:35:14 it's quite simple Oct 29 15:35:25 quite simple might be for me :P Oct 29 15:35:38 it's the udev rules for wifi Oct 29 15:36:05 SUBSYSTEM=="net",KERNEL=="wlan0", RUN+="/lib/udev/nokia-n900-mac-hack.sh %k $attr{address}" Oct 29 15:36:09 is what we already have Oct 29 15:36:28 ah? Oct 29 15:36:33 dunno if it works as advertised though Oct 29 15:36:33 when was it commited Oct 29 15:36:39 because I've wlan3 Oct 29 15:36:47 long ago Oct 29 15:36:50 in n900 Oct 29 15:36:55 ok Oct 29 15:37:04 took that from meego udev config Oct 29 15:37:08 # cat /lib/udev/nokia-n900-mac-hack.sh Oct 29 15:37:09 cat: can't open '/lib/udev/nokia-n900-mac-hack.sh': No such file or directory Oct 29 15:37:11 might just not work correctly Oct 29 15:37:15 heh Oct 29 15:37:21 that would explain it :P Oct 29 15:37:41 brb Oct 29 15:38:08 /etc/udev/scripts/nokia-n900-mac-hack.sh is there tough Oct 29 15:38:19 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 469 Oct 28 2010 /etc/udev/scripts/nokia-n900-mac-hack.sh Oct 29 15:38:20 hmm Oct 29 15:38:27 yeah, I remember Oct 29 15:38:38 ok I'll wait for you return(I won't delay you ) Oct 29 15:39:02 hi mickey|office Oct 29 15:57:07 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, will try to fix it now Oct 29 15:57:55 ok thanks a lot Oct 29 15:58:00 did you succeed with the button? Oct 29 15:58:08 s/button/power button/ Oct 29 15:58:09 GNUtoo|laptop meant: did you succeed with the power button? Oct 29 15:58:09 not yet Oct 29 15:58:16 wok Oct 29 15:58:21 s/wok/ok Oct 29 15:58:38 I looked at hal info in maemo Oct 29 15:58:45 there is no x driver configured though Oct 29 16:00:20 ah? Oct 29 16:00:40 they use /etc/X11/xorg.d or something like that Oct 29 16:10:48 GNUtoo|laptop: fixing the path in the udev rule gives me /etc/wlan0mac on next boot Oct 29 16:11:12 ? Oct 29 16:11:58 rebooting now Oct 29 16:12:14 GNUtoo|laptop: the way the script works is to remember the mac for wlan0 in /etc/wlan0mac Oct 29 16:12:24 ah ok Oct 29 16:12:26 and then - if that file exists - to set it on next boot Oct 29 16:12:32 ok Oct 29 16:12:36 doesn't udev have a script/callout for that? Oct 29 16:12:52 oh, no to remember the ifname Oct 29 16:12:58 yup Oct 29 16:13:01 to have persistent ifnames Oct 29 16:13:09 for MAC I don't think so Oct 29 16:18:23 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, still wlan0 after reboot Oct 29 16:18:31 will fix the path and commit Oct 29 16:18:50 ok nice Oct 29 16:19:06 thanks a lot!!! Oct 29 16:24:50 ok, pushed Oct 29 16:24:54 now the button Oct 29 16:26:58 no... dinner first :/ Oct 29 16:27:00 bbl Oct 29 16:43:16 GNUtoo|laptop: Hi, can you check why inherit binconfig doesn't work for libmikmod (it returns -L/usr/lib now and then breaks supertux-qvga build), thanks Oct 29 16:45:24 JaMa, reading Oct 29 16:45:47 JaMa, what's binconfig? Oct 29 16:46:11 binconfig.bbclass Oct 29 16:46:28 maybe it's only because libmikmod.m4 is no longer installed Oct 29 16:54:14 i have problems with gps and shr-unstable, is there a way to test, if my problems are hardware-problems? Oct 29 17:20:33 DocScrutinizer, hi Oct 29 17:20:45 did you see what I pasted for the battery Oct 29 17:20:46 hi again Oct 29 17:20:47 daniele_athome: you did not tell us to add the script to frameworkd files ;) Oct 29 17:21:05 hey Oct 29 17:21:11 the charge.sh.txt isn't perfect Oct 29 17:21:16 mrmoku, is it included automatically as part of the source folder? Oct 29 17:21:17 :) Oct 29 17:21:21 errm somewhat, yes. Don't get it though Oct 29 17:21:29 daniele_athome: but not installed Oct 29 17:21:35 ah :( Oct 29 17:21:38 pardon Oct 29 17:21:42 i didn't know Oct 29 17:21:43 Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 WallCharger: 0 Battery Voltage: 4143 NAC: 545 Battery level: 26 % Oct 29 17:21:43 Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 WallCharger: 0 Battery Voltage: 4159 NAC: 2056 Battery level: 100 % Oct 29 17:21:51 daniele_athome: /me neither :P Oct 29 17:21:53 and nothing in between the 2 lines Oct 29 17:21:58 eheh Oct 29 17:22:19 what can I say? I don't even know who's printing that Oct 29 17:22:22 i've just reinstalled linux, i'm doing all environment setup stuff :S Oct 29 17:22:24 ah? Oct 29 17:22:37 daniele_athome: ohh... have fun for the next two days ;) Oct 29 17:22:42 http://build.shr-project.org/tests/mrmoku/n900/charge.sh.txt Oct 29 17:22:43 lol Oct 29 17:22:44 that is Oct 29 17:22:58 is there a better script? Oct 29 17:23:02 * mrmoku will do the same very soonish :/ Oct 29 17:23:03 or is that the best one? Oct 29 17:23:19 dunno Oct 29 17:23:25 never seen it before Oct 29 17:23:28 ah ok Oct 29 17:23:50 I thought you pointed us to it but I'm wrong then Oct 29 17:24:00 aah it's shadowjk's script Oct 29 17:24:05 yes Oct 29 17:24:08 DocScrutinizer: it's the one I got from him, yes Oct 29 17:24:13 * daniele_athome installing EFL :) Oct 29 17:24:16 I never used it Oct 29 17:24:23 ok Oct 29 17:24:40 it sounded a lot better tough Oct 29 17:24:51 should I compare maemo and SHR battery % Oct 29 17:24:51 ? Oct 29 17:25:04 DocScrutinizer: any hint for me where to find xorg.log on maemo? Oct 29 17:25:18 I'm not even sure how to get % in maemo, maybe with hal-something Oct 29 17:26:21 mrmoku: sorry, not offhand Oct 29 17:26:38 DocScrutinizer: ok, will continue my search quest on maemo wiki then :) Oct 29 17:26:57 * DocScrutinizer suggests find Oct 29 17:27:32 DocScrutinizer, do you have an idea on what should be done for battery? Oct 29 17:27:47 DocScrutinizer: duhh Oct 29 17:27:52 * mrmoku stupid Oct 29 17:27:54 wait a bit, I'm looking imto it Oct 29 17:27:57 /tmp/Xorg.0.log Oct 29 17:27:58 ok Oct 29 17:29:24 btw did you made any progress about usb host? Oct 29 17:29:38 so weird, freaking tablet sometimes wakes up from suspend :| Oct 29 17:29:38 GNUtoo|laptop: it's clearly a 'detuned' bq27200 - it switches from whatever charge% to 100% when current drops under some limit and voltage is high enough Oct 29 17:29:40 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, as I thought... PowerKey in maemo is _not_ handled by X Oct 29 17:29:44 where's that [Rui]?! :P Oct 29 17:29:48 anyhow, ciao. Oct 29 17:30:07 GNUtoo|laptop: you need to give it a learning cycle, to calibrate Oct 29 17:30:11 mrmoku, ok Oct 29 17:30:22 means one full discharge charge cycle Oct 29 17:30:34 DocScrutinizer, ok Oct 29 17:30:44 DocScrutinizer, under maemo it *seem* to work fine tough Oct 29 17:31:08 JaMa|Off: off or still around? Oct 29 17:31:16 what can be done on the script modification level, are the specs huge or small? Oct 29 17:31:27 yes, because maemo bme and hald-addon-bme do lots of nonsense but not use bq27200 (most of the time) Oct 29 17:31:36 note that I only read the specs of an ADC chip Oct 29 17:32:15 I didn't understood that: " yes, because maemo bme and hald-addon-bme do lots of nonsense but not use bq27200 (most of the time)" Oct 29 17:32:27 specially that part: Oct 29 17:32:34 "do lots of nonsense but not use bq27200 (most of the time)"" Oct 29 17:33:29 GNUtoo|laptop: maemo is using some closed source cruft in bme for battery status evaluation. It's unclear what bme does exactly. Probably uses cell voltage and other things, like gta01-battery driver Oct 29 17:33:53 ah ok Oct 29 17:33:55 now I understand Oct 29 17:34:18 so all I have to do is discharge+recharge Oct 29 17:34:21 thanks Oct 29 17:34:56 mrmoku, about the power button, I remember that we got it working at a point Oct 29 17:35:03 mrmoku, maybe with 2.6.35 Oct 29 17:35:08 hmm... possible Oct 29 17:35:14 yes, discharge *completely* - means to the level where bq27200 really considers cell to be at end of discharge Oct 29 17:35:15 that's what I wanted to ask JaMa Oct 29 17:35:24 to try under meego with new kernel Oct 29 17:35:29 DocScrutinizer, isn't that risky? Oct 29 17:35:37 under maemo that's hard to accomplish, it shuts down "prematurely" Oct 29 17:35:45 under SHR it's easy Oct 29 17:35:49 unfortunately.... Oct 29 17:36:44 btw 2 questions left: Oct 29 17:37:09 1)could a very high increase in heat cause that jump in charging % Oct 29 17:37:15 no Oct 29 17:37:19 2)I'm very interested in usb host.... Oct 29 17:37:24 what are the progress Oct 29 17:37:27 ? Oct 29 17:37:43 I mean with usb-host I could plug a real keyboard into it Oct 29 17:38:01 or maybe I should go bluetooth Oct 29 17:38:26 well, we got a patched 1.3 kernel now, which also fixes some bugs in mohammad's august version random hostmode.py Oct 29 17:38:35 wow Oct 29 17:38:40 and are investigating musb-core hw Oct 29 17:38:56 patched means? it works Oct 29 17:38:57 ? Oct 29 17:39:13 and if it works, how do you switch between usb host and device? Oct 29 17:39:15 anyway you can try http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=62787&page=22 Oct 29 17:39:32 ~hostmode Oct 29 17:39:33 i guess hostmode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=824197#post824197 Oct 29 17:39:51 ok nice Oct 29 17:40:11 what's the battery life? Oct 29 17:40:12 it's all still R&D Oct 29 17:40:19 ok Oct 29 17:41:59 with pr1.3 kernel it seems battery life is abysmal as there's some weird bug in kernel keeping CPU spinning idle @ 500MHz as long as VBUS is detected. For hostmode we need internal VBUS and that's makes this bug a PITA, other than on wallcharger where it usually happens Oct 29 17:42:29 that's all results of today, so bleeding edge and not confirmed in any way Oct 29 17:43:27 wow "Seems I found a new 'magic sequence' that enables hostmode without relying on fake HNP." Oct 29 17:43:40 ok Oct 29 17:43:55 I'll wait then but with good hope Oct 29 17:44:22 we actually see *some* progress, so hostmode is not dead yet :-D Oct 29 17:44:53 ah ok Oct 29 17:44:59 just this minute PaulFertser looks into it, investigating VBUS signalling and why it acts up like it does Oct 29 17:45:11 ok Oct 29 17:45:28 and I'm afk now Oct 29 17:45:29 cya Oct 29 17:45:50 ok thanks a lot!!! Oct 29 17:45:54 yw Oct 29 17:46:04 DocScrutinizer: not really, i'm not investigating that C* states stuff. Oct 29 17:46:18 DocScrutinizer: i'm continuing with my experimentation with hostmode instead. Oct 29 17:47:14 PaulFertser: n900 hostmode stuff? Oct 29 17:47:34 PaulFertser: that's what I meant Oct 29 17:47:52 devctl=?? Oct 29 17:48:14 that's actually what needs to be done Oct 29 17:48:44 great you're having a look at it now Oct 29 17:49:31 lindi-: yes Oct 29 17:49:43 DocScrutinizer: i'm still unsure about the preconditions for TX irq to happen. Oct 29 17:50:00 yeah Oct 29 17:50:14 DocScrutinizer: now that i do not touch ulpi regs, i have 59 in devctl but the irq doesn't happen, so it doesn't try to send anything over the bus. Oct 29 17:50:42 -->#hen Oct 29 17:50:57 anyway, I'm really gone now Oct 29 17:51:07 DocScrutinizer: ok Oct 29 17:52:57 DocScrutinizer: btw, have you thought about what it would take to charge nokia batteries using freerunner? Oct 29 17:53:04 DocScrutinizer: reverse-engineering some protocols? Oct 29 17:53:31 lindi-: what is problem with charging? Oct 29 17:53:49 gena2x: I was under the impression that you couldn't charge nokia batteries with freerunner? Oct 29 17:54:02 or was it the other way around, nokia phones don't charge openmoko batteries? Oct 29 17:54:11 yep Oct 29 17:54:16 ok, good Oct 29 17:54:22 lindi-: while i connected my nokia battery by 2 pins while doing power tests my nokia battery were chanrging and discharging without problems. Oct 29 17:54:26 fr charges even car batteries :-P Oct 29 17:55:42