**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 10 02:59:57 2010 Nov 10 07:29:07 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * red20856ddee2 10/libmsmcomm/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Nov 10 07:29:07 freesmartphone.org: libmsmcomm: add frame disassembling functionality Nov 10 07:29:07 freesmartphone.org: This was removed before as I though I don't need it anymore. But now with the back-come of Nov 10 07:29:07 freesmartphone.org: the msmcomm shell I need it and don't want to rewrite it ... Nov 10 07:29:07 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rb8b7853bcc08 10/libmsmcomm/src/frame.c: libmsmcomm: fix payload offset when disassemble a frame from raw data Nov 10 07:29:09 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rfe47051a4b4a 10/libmsmcomm/vapi/msmcomm-1.0.vapi: libmsmcomm: remove duplicated code for class Frame from msmcomm-1.0.vapi Nov 10 07:29:12 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * re15dd0e5335f 10/libmsmcomm/specs/packet_definitions: libmsmcomm: update packet definitions file Nov 10 07:29:13 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * raa3f484fefa0 10/msmsh/ (25 files in 5 dirs): msmcomm: revert removable of the msmcomm shell Nov 10 10:27:49 hi mrmoku Nov 10 10:28:17 someone posted a fix for vala-terminal on smartphone-userland mailing list Nov 10 10:34:09 mickey|office, hi what do you think of pulseaudio on htcdream,palm-pre,nokia900 Nov 10 10:34:41 GNUtoo|laptop, afaik he doesn't like pulseaudio Nov 10 10:34:49 ouch Nov 10 10:34:56 because on n900 it could be necessary Nov 10 10:35:01 on dream too Nov 10 10:35:01 i like it Nov 10 10:35:11 and on palm-pre they already used it Nov 10 10:35:15 pre uses it too Nov 10 10:41:33 playya: any news wrt vala efl bindings? Nov 10 10:43:19 yes Nov 10 10:43:32 2 more vala bugs :( Nov 10 10:43:43 but i might push it later Nov 10 10:43:46 ah :/ Nov 10 10:43:58 * JaMa is waiting with EFL bump :) Nov 10 10:44:08 anyone depends on the iterator? Nov 10 10:44:18 no idea Nov 10 10:56:03 maybe even 3 Nov 10 10:56:16 the doesn't work: Nov 10 10:56:52 static EIna.Hash int32(FreeCb) Nov 10 11:36:01 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, saw that fix Nov 10 11:39:52 GNUtoo|laptop: we should get it comitted and bump rev :-) Nov 10 11:55:10 mickey|office: want me to commit the vala-terminal fix? or has zub access too and should commit himself? or do you want to do it yourself? :P Nov 10 11:56:19 zub: ping :) Nov 10 11:56:52 GNUtoo|laptop: (pulseaudio) I think everything should be in place to just use it Nov 10 11:57:16 pulseaudio is what we had in the very beginning Nov 10 11:57:30 and did not work out on gta02 due to performance reasons Nov 10 11:57:36 at least that's what my memory tells me Nov 10 12:24:31 greetings Nov 10 13:01:18 sorry my computer OOMed Nov 10 13:01:26 I added some swap Nov 10 13:01:36 and then I ate Nov 10 13:21:42 GNUtoo|laptop: did you get my response though? Nov 10 13:21:53 mrmoku, no Nov 10 13:22:05 ahh Nov 10 13:22:10 12:30 < mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, saw that fix Nov 10 13:22:12 12:34 < mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: we should get it comitted and bump rev :-) Nov 10 13:22:18 ok Nov 10 13:22:18 12:51 < mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: (pulseaudio) I think everything should be in place to just use it Nov 10 13:22:36 mrmoku, do you know what SOC the palm pixie uses Nov 10 13:22:40 it uses msm7k Nov 10 13:22:45 exactly like the htcdream Nov 10 13:22:46 heh, no idea about palms Nov 10 13:22:50 and has a bogus alsa driver Nov 10 13:22:59 my last contact with a palm was named III Nov 10 13:22:59 which is worked arround with pulseaudio Nov 10 13:23:01 :) Nov 10 13:27:18 my only contact with a palm was trough ssh Nov 10 13:39:07 3^1^^11^^^^123456auü+ Nov 10 13:53:36 mrmoku: feel free to do it, thanks Nov 10 13:54:23 fwiw, i'm not against pulseaudio – provided it doesn't spend 50% CPU multiplying zeros Nov 10 13:54:26 which it has in the past Nov 10 13:54:37 it does not on the pre, since palm fixed it there Nov 10 13:54:42 no idea on other platforms Nov 10 13:58:47 mickey|office: I have receive my pre 2 yesterday :). I will familiar with it a bit and after i wil l look behind the scene Nov 10 14:00:09 GarthPS: cool, congrats Nov 10 14:00:50 mickey|office: :) . for now I found it a bit limited.. perhaps I am missing a terminal an ssh and a good gps application Nov 10 14:01:05 :) Nov 10 14:06:51 did webos improve substantially? Nov 10 14:09:07 mrmoku, JaMa: hi, I'm being told in #edevelop that finger size 70 is to high for what it should be. They are saying it should be 40 < val < 70 Nov 10 14:09:14 any info on why is it like this? Nov 10 14:09:45 pespin, on htcdream 50 seem fine Nov 10 14:10:55 freesmartphone.org: 03zub 07vala-terminal * r6cfb8bf8eb1a 10/src/ (mainwindow.vala terminal.vala): Nov 10 14:10:55 freesmartphone.org: vala-terminal: Fix null pointer deref in MainWindow.update_title(). Nov 10 14:10:55 freesmartphone.org: A change in VTE behaviour resulted in SIGSEGV on new tab creation. Nov 10 14:10:55 freesmartphone.org: When no term title is set VTE now returns null title. This situation was Nov 10 14:10:55 freesmartphone.org: not handled in update_title() and resulted in null pointer dereference. Nov 10 14:10:55 freesmartphone.org: The fix checks for null title from VTE and uses a default value in this Nov 10 14:10:55 freesmartphone.org: case. Nov 10 14:11:11 mickey|office, ok I'll try, maybe it's because of the lack of instructions for locking on armv4? Nov 10 14:11:29 pespin: good question... but that might explain my problems launching apps with my finger :P Nov 10 14:12:23 mrmoku, so, ther'es not actual "probed" reason to be using a size of 70? Nov 10 14:13:03 maybe dos1 knows it a bit better, but he's not here now :S Nov 10 14:14:33 hmmm Nov 10 14:14:57 I imported palm pixie driver locally for the htcdream Nov 10 14:15:00 it has mmap Nov 10 14:15:05 mplayer plays garbage Nov 10 14:15:08 aplay works fine Nov 10 14:15:18 gstreamer with alsasink works fine Nov 10 14:15:21 GNUtoo|laptop: pushed the vala-terminal bump too Nov 10 14:15:43 mrmoku, ok nice, /me must bump srcrev for htcdream Nov 10 14:17:11 GNUtoo|laptop, did you have time to finish enjoy stuff? Nov 10 14:17:31 pespin, I jut commented it, and passed it to the profusion person Nov 10 14:18:06 GNUtoo|laptop, fidencio? Nov 10 14:18:11 yes Nov 10 14:21:29 mickey|office: don't know I don have pre in first version Nov 10 14:22:05 GarthPS, you're in france? Nov 10 14:22:14 GNUtoo|laptop: yop Nov 10 14:22:19 you bought the pre from SFR then Nov 10 14:22:25 I've some questions: Nov 10 14:22:30 yes Nov 10 14:22:32 *I bet you bought them online Nov 10 14:22:39 *how much did one cost Nov 10 14:22:40 nope by phone Nov 10 14:22:47 *are they simlocked Nov 10 14:22:56 by phone? Nov 10 14:23:10 I call my cusomer service => 900 Nov 10 14:23:14 ah ok Nov 10 14:23:34 anyway there is a shippment Nov 10 14:23:34 I don't know yet if it is simlock , I have tried yet Nov 10 14:23:38 ok Nov 10 14:23:45 yes I recive it yesterday Nov 10 14:23:50 ok Nov 10 14:25:17 GNUtoo|laptop, it's possible to simlock the pre, but afaik there's no known case of a simlocked phone Nov 10 14:25:26 at took webphon 5 1H forfait at 40€ ( less 9€ with multipack(adsl)) for 24 months Nov 10 14:25:29 ok Nov 10 14:25:33 an i think we should be able to remove the simlock Nov 10 14:25:46 I thought SFR was simlocking the phones Nov 10 14:25:56 at least for pre-plus Nov 10 14:26:04 and it cost me 99€ (but I have normaly 98€ refunded in two month so => 1€) Nov 10 14:26:22 seriously? need some testers :P Nov 10 14:26:34 testers for what ? Nov 10 14:26:44 ah ok Nov 10 14:26:54 I don't buy phones with contracts Nov 10 14:27:11 so I've looked and it seem to be about 400E without contracts Nov 10 14:28:18 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah I though befor my FR it will be the last but I failed... :) but Now it is finished! :p In two years I will chang my provider and buy only a sim with a forfait Nov 10 14:28:42 GarthPS, unlocking the pre Nov 10 14:28:53 ok Nov 10 14:29:55 playya_: first I will check if it is locked :) Nov 10 14:32:51 if I'm right you need read_tokens to check: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=utilities.git;a=tree;f=palmpre/read_tokens;h=be86b6fb14c77b7ab37ffac5589c4dea35ee3ee1;hb=HEAD Nov 10 14:39:46 GarthPS, i can send you a caompiled version Nov 10 14:40:30 playya_: I am just a newbie to my pre 2 so I think I need first to know him (how to root etc etc) Nov 10 17:45:40 mrmoku: pong Nov 10 17:46:00 anyway it got resolved meanwhile, which is good :) Nov 10 17:56:25 hi Nov 10 17:56:27 | error: Package `fsodevice-2.0' not found in specified Vala API directories or GObject-Introspection GIR directories Nov 10 17:56:30 what should I do Nov 10 17:56:32 it's fsodeviced Nov 10 17:57:30 zub: yeah :) Nov 10 17:59:46 JaMa, any idea, hi btw Nov 10 18:00:06 it keep failing since a very long time Nov 10 18:00:16 maybe a week Nov 10 18:00:19 or at least some days Nov 10 18:00:27 I posted the same error some time ago Nov 10 18:05:51 mrmoku, it looks like you have some cookies for phoneui in patchwork :) Nov 10 18:10:06 pespin: ohhh, will check after the good night story :) Nov 10 18:13:36 does someone knows? Nov 10 18:13:46 did someone succedded at building shr-image? Nov 10 18:13:52 or did someone had the same failure? Nov 10 18:14:02 is anybody tried to build SHR for htc dream? Nov 10 18:14:09 Any_Key, yes Nov 10 18:14:23 GNUtoo|laptop, built it like 1 week ago correctly Nov 10 18:14:37 maybe I should ask JaMa then Nov 10 18:14:38 hmm and how it runs? Nov 10 18:15:08 Any_Key, it's difficult to express that on irc as it's very subjective but there is a status here: Nov 10 18:15:17 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/HardwareComparison Nov 10 18:15:33 and there is a video on youtube divided in 3 parts Nov 10 18:15:36 which is quite old Nov 10 18:15:41 I seen it already, thanks Nov 10 18:15:45 ok Nov 10 18:16:22 Any_Key, you plan to buy one or have already one? Nov 10 18:18:05 I bet you don't have one already Nov 10 18:18:24 else you would have tried to boot it without touching to android Nov 10 18:18:26 no just want to hear "personal", I'll gonna put my hands on some piece of "old" PDA's (Zaurus) and want to try SHR on this Nov 10 18:18:27 which is possible Nov 10 18:18:37 ok Nov 10 18:18:56 I've many devices that runs SHR Nov 10 18:19:09 and it's great, but also has drawbacks such as stability Nov 10 18:19:18 that is to say, most people uses the unstable version Nov 10 18:19:24 which isn't very stable Nov 10 18:19:43 in another hand Nov 10 18:19:48 compared to another distribution Nov 10 18:19:48 And May be also HTS wizard(QTEK 9100) but linux port seems to be stale for year... Nov 10 18:19:52 you have FSO on it Nov 10 18:20:00 which handles power management Nov 10 18:20:08 ok Nov 10 18:21:07 Never seen OE recipe for HTC Wizard but I have to dig deeper Nov 10 18:22:22 ok Nov 10 18:22:41 I think JaMa got a zaurus Nov 10 18:22:47 and he's a SHR dev Nov 10 18:22:54 *an Nov 10 18:26:23 OK, Thanks maybe I'll ping him after installation Nov 10 18:56:01 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07gdbus * rbdb28f886018 10cornucopia/libfsobasics/ (6 files in 3 dirs): libfsobasics: make it compile against Vala 0.11.2 Nov 10 19:05:34 being mostly offline I'm not really keeping in touch with SHR status, but got a Q Nov 10 19:05:47 is it known what causes the odd keyboard scaling bug? Nov 10 19:06:22 I'm still seeing the issue. Also noticed omnewrotate + plenty of rotations aggreviate the problem - it gets bigger faster. Nov 10 19:07:06 Also saw wrong terminal font size and I think also wrong home screen icon size. Seems all related to the keyb. scaling. Nov 10 19:08:42 zub: not known I think Nov 10 19:08:51 at least I don't know Nov 10 19:09:54 have you seen it; or more generally does it manyfest on all devices? Nov 10 19:10:08 s/manyfewst/manifest/ Nov 10 19:10:26 ehm, can't get even the subst right, sigh :) Nov 10 19:10:28 anyone? it really prevent me from doing new images Nov 10 19:28:35 Sigh... tried to fix vala-terminal's .desktop file (to get rid of QA warning about obsolete category - "Applications") Nov 10 19:29:06 after bringing it in line with gnome's terminal (GTK;Utility;TerminalEmulator;) I got: Nov 10 19:29:09 > error: (will be fatal in the future): value "TerminalEmulator" in key "Categories" in group "Desktop Entry" requires another category to be present among the following categories: System Nov 10 19:29:30 but why System? :-/ Nov 10 19:30:01 is it part of a process to hide terminal underground? :) Nov 10 19:31:30 GNUtoo|laptop, I think there were gir-instrospect errors some weeks/days ago, you could try disabling it? Nov 10 19:31:43 pespin, ah? how? Nov 10 19:31:47 --disalbe-gir? Nov 10 19:31:50 GNUtoo|laptop, no idea xD Nov 10 19:32:23 but someone modified lots of recipes to disable gir afair Nov 10 19:32:32 ah ok Nov 10 19:32:40 I should grep the log then Nov 10 19:32:45 s/log/git log/ Nov 10 19:32:45 GNUtoo|laptop meant: I should grep the git log then Nov 10 19:35:07 --enable-introspection=no Nov 10 19:35:30 I'll try when I will have finished the compilation for another machine(no SHR support but oe support) Nov 10 19:38:09 or maybe mickeyl could comment Nov 10 19:38:17 but I'll try disabling introspection Nov 10 19:56:33 afaik cornucopia doesn't have an enable-introspection flag Nov 10 19:57:05 which vala version do you use GNUtoo|laptop ? Nov 10 19:58:14 I use oe.dev from this morning Nov 10 19:58:49 ok Nov 10 19:59:08 XDG_DATADIR is set into your native sysroot? Nov 10 19:59:22 how can I know? Nov 10 19:59:26 with devshell? Nov 10 20:00:24 the script is in $package/temp/run.do_compile.$package Nov 10 20:00:43 ah in that Nov 10 20:03:16 export XDG_DATA_DIRS="/home/gnutoo/embedded/oe/oetmps/nokia900/sysroots/armv7a-oe-linux-gnueabi/usr/share" Nov 10 20:04:41 afaik the vala class stages the vapifiles into native and targe Nov 10 20:04:56 find /home/gnutoo/embedded/oe/oetmps/nokia900/sysroots/*/usr/share -name fsodevice-2.0.vapi Nov 10 20:07:48 it returns nothing Nov 10 20:07:49 strange Nov 10 20:18:32 yes. that's strange Nov 10 20:18:52 because the dependency should be checked in configure Nov 10 20:19:01 GNUtoo|laptop, which package btw.? Nov 10 20:20:19 fsodeviced Nov 10 20:22:01 could you paste the whole log? maybe even with --disable-silent-rules Nov 10 20:22:50 ok Nov 10 20:23:09 I should re-configure it then Nov 10 20:23:18 yes Nov 10 20:23:46 or change the run-do_compile and add V= to the make call Nov 10 20:28:19 hmmm Nov 10 20:28:22 it seem old fso Nov 10 20:28:27 it compiles router_qdsp5 Nov 10 20:28:30 which was removed Nov 10 20:29:37 http://pastebin.com/PkAicUge Nov 10 20:29:49 http://pastebin.com/1QHtr5sX Nov 10 20:34:27 looks like --vapidir $(top_srcdir)/src/lib is missing for the valac call Nov 10 20:34:51 and --vapidir $(top_srcdir)/fsoframework seems to be wrong, too Nov 10 20:35:09 ok Nov 10 20:35:13 I'll look in the recipe Nov 10 20:36:00 it's in the makefile Nov 10 20:37:20 ok Nov 10 20:37:25 ah right Nov 10 20:37:29 in Makefile.am Nov 10 20:37:32 or something like that Nov 10 20:37:33 sorry Nov 10 20:51:56 playya, strange Nov 10 20:52:08 bitbake -c clean fsodeviced ; bitbake fsodeviced worked Nov 10 20:52:11 but Nov 10 20:52:29 bitbake -c clean fsodeviced;bitbake shr-image didn't work before Nov 10 20:53:35 hmm. maybe some weird parallell make problem GNUtoo|laptop ? Nov 10 20:53:54 yes maybe Nov 10 20:56:56 NOTE: Runtime target 'task-fso2-compliance' is unbuildable, removing... Nov 10 20:57:02 now I've that just after updating Nov 10 20:57:47 ouch Nov 10 20:57:49 let me think Nov 10 20:57:55 I'm not on machine n900 Nov 10 20:58:01 maybe I have the problem again on n900 Nov 10 20:58:04 ouch.... Nov 10 20:58:04 sorry Nov 10 20:59:31 maybe the reason is that we don't tell make that plugins/ depends on lib/ and make builds them in parallel Nov 10 20:59:53 but the --vapidir=fsoframework is bogus anyways Nov 10 21:00:06 ok Nov 10 21:02:31 so it fails Nov 10 21:02:35 again.... Nov 10 21:02:52 I am tired now and don't want to do any harm Nov 10 21:03:07 because if I modify something I could break stuff Nov 10 21:03:54 GNUtoo|laptop: do you build in parallel with -j ? Nov 10 21:04:03 yes Nov 10 21:04:05 -j9 Nov 10 21:04:10 and 4 bb threads Nov 10 21:04:19 and I just added some swap Nov 10 21:04:24 today Nov 10 21:04:39 hmm... maybe try with -j9 disabled Nov 10 21:07:51 if parallel build doesn't work one should add PARALLEL_MAKE = "" to these recipes Nov 10 21:08:42 my cardreader is gone... Nov 10 21:13:05 sigh Nov 10 21:13:06 same issue Nov 10 21:13:10 :/ Nov 10 21:13:12 even with Nov 10 21:13:15 mrmoku: trivial fix to resolve a QA warning: http://linux.fjfi.cvut.cz/~zub/0001-vala-terminal-Fix-vala-terminal.desktop-to-solve-OE-.patch Nov 10 21:13:19 take it or leave it :) Nov 10 21:13:19 PARALLEL_MAKE = "" Nov 10 21:13:40 basically Application category is obsolete... Nov 10 21:14:10 i think --vapidir=../lib/ is missing in the Makefile's VALA_FLAGS Nov 10 21:14:44 which Makefile.am Nov 10 21:15:14 /kernel_input ? Nov 10 21:15:22 yes. Nov 10 21:15:32 just wondering why it built before Nov 10 21:16:16 freesmartphone.org: 03zub 07vala-terminal * r8a06884e7f1e 10/data/vala-terminal.desktop: Nov 10 21:16:16 freesmartphone.org: vala-terminal: Fix vala-terminal.desktop to solve OE QA warning. Nov 10 21:16:16 freesmartphone.org: Too bad OE QA doesn't like TerminalEmulator to coexist with Utility Nov 10 21:16:16 freesmartphone.org: category. -> TerminalEmulator category was not added. Nov 10 21:16:16 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: David Kozub Nov 10 21:16:19 zub: thanks :-) Nov 10 21:16:47 nichts zu danken :) Nov 10 21:17:03 playya, with the other machine? because it was angstrom distro without autorev Nov 10 21:17:49 ok. so you used an old cornucopia version? Nov 10 21:19:23 not exactly Nov 10 21:19:32 I used an old version by mistake Nov 10 21:19:49 I did bitbake fsodeviced Nov 10 21:19:58 and I didn't realize that I was on the bug device machine Nov 10 21:20:04 rather than n900 Nov 10 21:20:21 JaMa: how can i build a 2.6.34 kernel without KMS? if i just remove the patches under the comment i get WSOD Nov 10 21:21:47 Got a question about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2264 - how does it manifest to the user? It it a temporary drop of connection + the modem somehow recovers, or does GPRS die till reboot? Nov 10 21:23:59 GNUtoo|laptop, i need to build a clean environment first to test it. maybe tomorrow Nov 10 21:24:24 ok Nov 10 21:29:50 | plugin.c:40:23: fatal error: fsodevice.h: No such file or directory Nov 10 21:31:24 looks like a -I$(top_srcdir)/src/lib is missing Nov 10 21:31:34 ok Nov 10 21:32:21 mickeyl, what do you think about the idea of moving the src/lib dirs of the deamon into an own library? Nov 10 21:32:40 mickeyl, like libfsodevice, libfsogsm, ... Nov 10 21:36:59 I tried that: Nov 10 21:37:22 --vapidir $(top_srcdir)/src/lib \ Nov 10 21:37:29 and it does the initial error Nov 10 21:37:35 and I also removed that: Nov 10 21:37:48 --vapidir fsoframework Nov 10 21:38:02 ahh Nov 10 21:38:04 topdir/lib Nov 10 21:38:07 damn headeache Nov 10 21:38:15 I never had a such strong headeache Nov 10 21:39:11 no. top_src should be ../../.. in src/plugins/kernel_input Nov 10 21:39:27 = fsodeviced base dir Nov 10 21:40:19 are you sure, other plugins do that: Nov 10 21:41:59 --vapidir $(top_srcdir)/src/lib \ Nov 10 21:42:03 from accelerometer Nov 10 21:42:13 yes. that's OK Nov 10 21:42:28 but: topdir/lib is wrong Nov 10 21:42:43 ok Nov 10 21:42:55 I badly expressed myself then Nov 10 21:53:30 | plugin.c:40:23: fatal error: fsodevice.h: No such file or directory Nov 10 21:53:35 still that Nov 10 21:53:39 I think I should abandon Nov 10 21:53:47 and as it won't work anytime soon Nov 10 21:53:57 and that I need it for images Nov 10 21:54:19 I wonder if I should stop Nov 10 21:54:34 I'm too tired Nov 10 21:58:18 and my n900 is software broken, I mean fullscreen is broken Nov 10 21:58:24 so I wouldn't even be able to use it Nov 10 22:01:24 :/ Nov 10 22:06:40 mrmoku, you're a make expert. do you think we can fix this by adding a dependency to $(top_srcdir)src/lib/fsodevice-2.0.vapi for all plugins? Nov 10 22:13:09 playya: heh, I'm everything but a make expert :U/ Nov 10 22:14:01 playya: right now I have no time... still dayworking and soon time for bed Nov 10 22:14:14 but I can read the backlog and take a look tomorrow Nov 10 22:15:33 ok. thx **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 11 02:59:57 2010