**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 14 02:59:59 2010 Nov 14 09:57:29 Lopi still there? I just woke up Nov 14 14:37:39 mickeyl, hi Nov 14 15:16:29 Hy guys Nov 14 15:16:31 hi Nov 14 15:55:21 GNUtoo|laptop: hey .just a simple question. when you look at my pre2 dmesg here http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/PalmPre2HardwareAndDriversInformations , can you confirme me that its cpu is runing at 1000Mhz? because I tought it was 720Mhz Nov 14 15:57:05 GarthPS|away, hi Nov 14 15:57:14 hi :) Nov 14 15:57:16 GarthPS|away, do you know what frequency scalling is? Nov 14 15:57:41 GNUtoo|laptop: nope perhaps it is in the dmseg Nov 14 15:57:58 I'll explain Nov 14 15:58:08 on desktop/laptop/mobile devices Nov 14 15:58:12 if the CPU supports it Nov 14 15:58:20 it can ajjust the clock Nov 14 15:58:39 if you do cpu intensive stuff Nov 14 15:58:44 like looking at a video Nov 14 15:58:48 it raise the clock Nov 14 15:58:55 if you do nothing it lowers the clocks Nov 14 15:59:02 it can be automatic Nov 14 15:59:09 with the ondemand governor Nov 14 15:59:14 or it can be manual if you want Nov 14 15:59:48 GNUtoo|laptop: ok that part I know so my respon is no I don't know Nov 14 15:59:49 :) Nov 14 16:00:08 I want to complet th FSO hardware/compare array Nov 14 16:00:12 (the userspace doing echo 100000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed ) Nov 14 16:00:25 ok Nov 14 16:00:30 so do that: Nov 14 16:00:48 cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies Nov 14 16:00:53 and take the higest speed Nov 14 16:01:13 note that it's in hZ Nov 14 16:01:16 *Hz Nov 14 16:02:39 GNUtoo|laptop: 1000000 :) so yes 1000MHz or 1Ghz as it is not byts Nov 14 16:02:52 GNUtoo|laptop: kweeel :) Nov 14 16:02:53 so report 1GHz Nov 14 16:07:52 GNUtoo|laptop: I put the pre 2 just right after the pre/pre plus or at the end after the iphone3g ? Nov 14 16:08:17 right after the pre plus Nov 14 16:08:26 or Nov 14 16:08:27 rather Nov 14 16:08:33 in the pre/pre-plus/ Nov 14 16:08:40 as the hardware is very similar Nov 14 16:20:31 GNUtoo|laptop: sure ?? becaus the cpu is rally Nov 14 16:20:44 GNUtoo|laptop: realy different no? Nov 14 16:20:47 all the rest of the hardware is really similar Nov 14 16:20:52 according to your research Nov 14 16:22:25 GNUtoo|laptop: for the power-kernel there is no combined diff (yet ?)... just the patches inside a git repository Nov 14 16:22:37 how do we apply them? copy them into OE? Nov 14 16:22:55 mrmoku, make a recipe and use git Nov 14 16:23:03 I mean make a linux-n900 Nov 14 16:23:11 and use fso git Nov 14 16:23:13 well, the git contains only the patches (and some debian stuff) Nov 14 16:23:19 ahh ok Nov 14 16:23:35 yeah, right... will check that one out and apply the patches Nov 14 16:28:21 GNUtoo|laptop: ok so I just add it in the title of the colum Nov 14 16:29:02 yes Nov 14 16:29:06 and add stuff like Nov 14 16:29:27 16G(palm pre 2) Nov 14 16:34:08 GNUtoo|laptop: yop I am doing this Nov 14 16:34:14 ok Nov 14 16:34:49 also feel free to correct something if you want Nov 14 16:52:52 GNUtoo|laptop: well for the moment I did mean lines . I go for a running. I will chek for all littles things after (like sensors) Nov 14 16:53:03 GNUtoo|laptop: tell me If I make mistakes Nov 14 16:53:40 ok Nov 14 17:01:37 GNUtoo|laptop: let me know :) Nov 14 17:02:16 I'll correct you Nov 14 17:02:52 (I forgot th "know") Nov 14 17:43:37 heyho Nov 14 18:22:26 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rb16da81bb12c 10/msmsh/src/ (6 files): msmsh: implement colorful dumping of packet payloads to show known offsets Nov 14 18:22:32 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r251d0fcb6650 10/msmsh/configure.ac: msmsh: remove dbus/dbus-glib dependency Nov 14 18:22:33 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r9731271ab124 10/libmsmcomm/specs/packet_definitions: libmsmcomm: update packet definitions file to support all currently known packet types Nov 14 18:22:37 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rdc814a4f13d8 10/libmsmcomm/src/ (internal.h message_types.c response_audio.c response_types.c): libmsmcomm: cleanup message descriptor stuff Nov 14 18:22:41 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r67518ea0672f 10/libmsmcomm/ (5 files in 3 dirs): libmsmcomm: merge value0/1 of sim_info_msg to sim_file field Nov 14 19:22:36 GNUtoo|laptop: I pushed linux-n900 with the kernel-power stuff... and after that I saw there is a nokia900 branch already Nov 14 19:23:00 mrmoku, ok I'll look Nov 14 19:23:49 mrmoku, then repush and ask mickeyl to delete the wrong branch Nov 14 19:24:21 GNUtoo|laptop: I did one commit for every patch in kernel-power... maybe we don't want them all... dunno Nov 14 19:24:44 why not, it's a starting point Nov 14 19:24:56 and there is one missing which according to debian/rules should be enabled, but did not apply Nov 14 19:25:01 which might be important even Nov 14 19:25:20 armthumb.diff Nov 14 19:25:38 http://gist.github.com/676433 Nov 14 19:27:12 TAsn: it would be sad if fsoopimd is ready before we managed to retire oevenetsd :P Nov 14 19:27:23 TAsn: btw. my server is running ArchLinux now :) Nov 14 19:27:57 * JaMa cleaned buildhost a bit, we were running low on disk space already Nov 14 19:28:12 heh Nov 14 19:28:32 we had 150G of old images (now keeping one old per month) Nov 14 19:28:59 ouch :P Nov 14 20:21:41 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r0195617b3755 10/libmsmcomm/ (6 files in 3 dirs): libmsmcomm: implement get_home_network_name command Nov 14 20:21:43 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r42b3de39cc04 10/libmsmcomm/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Nov 14 20:21:43 freesmartphone.org: libmsmcomm: add informations about various HCI messages extracted from webOS 2.0 Nov 14 20:21:43 freesmartphone.org: * all_hci_messages.txt: All HCI messages names with their group Nov 14 20:21:43 freesmartphone.org: * all_hci_messages_with_ids.txt: All HCI messages with their group and group id and Nov 14 20:21:43 freesmartphone.org: message id Nov 14 20:21:43 freesmartphone.org: * process-all-hci-messages.py: Simple script to process all_hci_messages.txt to get Nov 14 20:21:44 freesmartphone.org: all_hci_messages_with_ids.txt Nov 14 20:47:05 JaMa, updated git and did make image, and gcc is failing to build (there's a patch which fails to apply) Nov 14 20:47:25 which one? Nov 14 20:48:06 NOTE: Applying patch 'gcc-4.5-linaro-r99307.patch' (openembedded/recipes/gcc/gcc-4.5/linaro/gcc-4.5-linaro-r99307.patch) Nov 14 20:48:07 FATAL: Execution of 'quilt --quiltrc=/media/part_ext4/OE/shr-unstable/tmp/sysroots/i686-linux/usr/bin/quiltrc push' failed with exit code 1: Nov 14 20:48:55 pespin: are you sure you have clean OE checkout? Nov 14 20:49:15 pespin: and also clean WORKDIR Nov 14 20:49:45 rm -rf mp/work ? Nov 14 20:49:53 s/mp/tmp Nov 14 20:50:03 JaMa, ^ Nov 14 20:50:38 you can, but then you need -c clean for all recipes which are partially built Nov 14 20:51:18 rm -rf tmp/work/armv4*/gcc* Nov 14 20:51:30 and then clean_toolchain Nov 14 20:51:44 bitbake clean_toolchain ? Nov 14 20:51:52 alias clean_toolchain="for i in openembedded/recipes/gcc/gcc*4.5*bb openembedded/recipes/binutils/binutils*2.20.1*bb openembedded/recipes/eglibc/eglibc*2.12*; do bitbake -c clean -b \$i; done" Nov 14 20:53:26 oh great Nov 14 22:34:42 hi Lopi Nov 14 22:34:57 hey GNUtoo :) Nov 14 22:35:51 I can't sleep because of the noise of a neibourg washing machine...so feel free to ask some technical questions Nov 14 22:36:20 pespin: built ok now? Nov 14 22:40:13 oops....playing too much with xchat bar crashed it Nov 14 22:47:30 Lopi so...you made a machine config...why not making a kernel recipe too? Nov 14 22:48:33 GNUtoo, one of the iDroid developers tweeted about my project so I got a bunch of people in my channel distracting me ;p Nov 14 22:48:39 GNUtoo, I'm about to do it Nov 14 22:48:48 ok Nov 14 22:49:02 what's your channel btw Nov 14 22:49:08 btw, woudl you like official support for IPT1G as well? Nov 14 22:49:20 yes Nov 14 22:49:27 okay, the hardware is the same as 3G Nov 14 22:49:33 ok nice Nov 14 22:49:38 so just a matter of changing a few lines in kernel .config Nov 14 22:49:44 oh Nov 14 22:49:48 I did have a question for you Nov 14 22:49:56 maybe my brother has one...not sure which version he has... Nov 14 22:50:30 anyway for the kernel recipe Nov 14 22:50:48 the defconfig is necessary but not enough Nov 14 22:51:12 GNUtoo, there's some legal issues involved with distributing the ramdisk Nov 14 22:51:20 you need to write a recipe so openembedded knows where to fetch the source Nov 14 22:51:29 ah? Nov 14 22:51:32 GNUtoo, all the firmware extracted from iOS is placed in /lib/firmware inside the ramdisk Nov 14 22:51:41 ok Nov 14 22:51:41 GNUtoo, at this point, we have everyone do that themselves Nov 14 22:51:44 leaving the firmware out Nov 14 22:51:53 so... Nov 14 22:52:07 so I need to figure out a way of getting around that :/ Nov 14 22:52:07 what firmwares? Nov 14 22:52:13 libertas? Nov 14 22:52:25 touch screen drivers, wifi, etc Nov 14 22:52:34 ya libertas Nov 14 22:53:17 redistributable versions for libertas exists...some are even in oe Nov 14 22:53:41 i'd like to understand... Nov 14 22:54:08 your only filesytem is a ramdisk? Nov 14 22:54:15 no Nov 14 22:54:31 or do you have a way of storing stuff like on nand Nov 14 22:54:36 we use a loopback image Nov 14 22:54:40 the filesystem is emulated Nov 14 22:54:45 ok Nov 14 22:54:49 the ramdisk mounts the image from the iOS partition Nov 14 22:54:59 ok I get it Nov 14 22:55:14 let me get a list of iphone firmware Nov 14 22:55:59 we have a something like that for the dream too but it's not shipped officially Nov 14 22:56:08 it was made by dcordes Nov 14 22:56:12 mrmoku, really sad, yeah :P Nov 14 22:56:18 mrmoku, and how does it feel? Nov 14 22:56:22 for windows users Nov 14 22:56:25 zephyr2, zephyr2_cal, zephyr2_proxcal, sd8686, sd8686_helper Nov 14 22:56:30 mrmoku, actually, you feel the true fun of using arch when upgrading. Nov 14 22:56:36 then there's an props file for multi touch Nov 14 22:56:40 mrmoku, everything just works :P Nov 14 22:56:41 ok Nov 14 22:56:48 zephyr is all part of touch Nov 14 22:56:57 sd* is wifi Nov 14 22:57:08 i know for sd Nov 14 22:57:18 yeah, just not used to people knowing ;p Nov 14 22:57:34 i've a bug device Nov 14 22:57:49 it uses the same firmware Nov 14 22:58:06 i also helped with palm pre wifi trough ssh Nov 14 22:58:21 which is also libertas Nov 14 22:58:53 so... Nov 14 22:59:12 can the user push files to the device in some ways? Nov 14 22:59:27 only with wifi + ssh Nov 14 22:59:34 ok Nov 14 22:59:41 so it's solved Nov 14 22:59:45 use wifi Nov 14 22:59:55 with openembedded firmware Nov 14 22:59:56 yeah, usbnet will come soon enough Nov 14 23:00:04 if it works... Nov 14 23:00:10 have a link to the firmware? Nov 14 23:00:15 I can do a quick test to find out Nov 14 23:00:21 yes Nov 14 23:00:35 go into recipes/firmwares Nov 14 23:01:12 in your openembedded directory Nov 14 23:04:24 http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/firmwares Nov 14 23:04:39 have to compile with bb? Nov 14 23:04:52 no Nov 14 23:05:44 http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/firmwares/marvell-sdio-fw for sdio Nov 14 23:05:52 you have sdio? Nov 14 23:06:17 or gpio? Nov 14 23:06:24 http://i.cmpnet.com/techonline/uth/pmiPhone_boardtopBIG.jpg Nov 14 23:06:57 it's Marvell W8686 Nov 14 23:07:19 I believe it's sdio, I could be wrong thoug ;p Nov 14 23:07:27 ok Nov 14 23:07:43 ask to idroid devs or check your defconfig Nov 14 23:08:46 k Nov 14 23:09:22 btw, my channel is #iX on irc.osx86.hu Nov 14 23:09:40 ok Nov 14 23:10:52 CONFIG_LIBERTAS=y Nov 14 23:10:52 CONFIG_LIBERTAS_SDIO=y Nov 14 23:10:54 SDIO Nov 14 23:11:17 ok Nov 14 23:12:35 k give me a few mins and I will test it Nov 14 23:12:56 btw, what else do I need besides the kernel defconfig? Nov 14 23:13:03 a recipe Nov 14 23:13:15 look in your irc logs Nov 14 23:13:25 yea I saved the info Nov 14 23:13:28 ok Nov 14 23:13:42 keeping all logs is a good idea Nov 14 23:13:49 heh yeah Nov 14 23:13:55 it's nice that the channel logs are saved as well Nov 14 23:13:59 ok Nov 14 23:16:16 JaMa, sorry, yes :) Nov 14 23:16:21 greetings Nov 14 23:16:43 just here to tell that some elm apps are broken due to elementary so library changing to -08 Nov 14 23:16:48 mokosuite too :( Nov 14 23:16:52 JaMa, please rebuild it Nov 14 23:16:52 :) Nov 14 23:22:02 daniele_athome: I built mokowm some days ago (shortly after we last talked) and tried to run it with Xephyr - I only get an error message »client_property_change: assertion `c != NULL' failed« Nov 14 23:22:09 daniele_athome: any idea? Nov 14 23:22:22 Wonka, that's it? i mean no other prints? Nov 14 23:22:47 (anyway that message is normal because it's about a not-yet managed window) Nov 14 23:22:54 it shows up on wm startup ;) Nov 14 23:23:55 daniele_athome: there are others... but I don't see anything happening in the Xephyr window Nov 14 23:24:41 Wonka, what do you mean? mokowm has nothing visible :) Nov 14 23:24:51 is a window manager, you have to start other apps to see something Nov 14 23:25:30 daniele_athome: http://pastebin.com/uya2a2cm Nov 14 23:25:58 daniele_athome: hmm, what's displaying the clock in mokosuite? Nov 14 23:26:11 daniele_athome: just mokosuite? Nov 14 23:26:19 JaMa, yes mokosuite2 is enough Nov 14 23:26:24 others don't use elementary Nov 14 23:26:30 Wonka, mokopanel :) Nov 14 23:26:31 daniele_athome: I've bumped PR in all apps I remember being linked to libelementary Nov 14 23:26:33 btw, Xephyr segfaults(!) when I kill mokowm Nov 14 23:26:47 but forget mokosuite :/ Nov 14 23:27:00 JaMa, np Nov 14 23:27:06 Wonka, yeah xephyr bug Nov 14 23:27:17 xephyr has a lot of bugs Nov 14 23:27:37 daniele_athome: so... does mokowm do anything on any user input? Nov 14 23:27:54 Wonka, wm has only window management and the virtual keyboard Nov 14 23:27:58 daniele_athome: how to hide/unhide keyboard, for example Nov 14 23:28:09 Wonka, send a USR1 signal to the mokowm process to activate Nov 14 23:28:13 USR2 signal to hide it Nov 14 23:28:19 Wonka, or use mokopanel :) Nov 14 23:29:11 trying to build mokopanel... Nov 14 23:29:39 Wonka, if you can wait until january/february you'll see a lot more ;) Nov 14 23:29:59 these days i'm also trying that new input method based on a simplified version of qwo Nov 14 23:30:15 works very well and it's damn fast :) Nov 14 23:30:18 and fast to learn too Nov 14 23:30:41 ah, btw, I had to comment out some line regarding qwo and comment the commented out vkbd line back in to make it compile ;) Nov 14 23:31:29 regarding alternative input methods: I need an input method capable of inputting every char needed for coding, and also german umlauts. Nov 14 23:31:38 does qwo do that? Nov 14 23:31:45 Wonka, don't know Nov 14 23:32:35 as long as it doesn't, I need vkbd ;) Nov 14 23:32:55 having vkbd available "on demand" as a fallback can not hurt (other than memory), nor? Nov 14 23:33:25 btw, any idea yet how to make vkbd layout dynamic? Nov 14 23:34:15 *sigh* Nov 14 23:34:16 autogen.sh: line 10: intltoolize: command not found Nov 14 23:39:37 Wonka, i think you can comment that line Nov 14 23:39:45 gettext is not used yet :) Nov 14 23:41:37 nearly done installing ;) Nov 14 23:42:45 Wonka, sorry got to go now Nov 14 23:42:58 tomorrow i'll be here again, in the morning i think Nov 14 23:43:01 goodnight Nov 14 23:43:03 night JaMa Nov 14 23:53:54 night Nov 14 23:54:41 mrmoku: kexec-klibc worked fine on n900 to reboot from SHR to meego :) Nov 15 01:11:39 hey **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 15 02:59:58 2010