**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 24 02:59:59 2010 Nov 24 06:29:29 GNUtoo: morning Nov 24 06:51:45 LOL, EFL on a fridge. http://enlightenment.org/p.php?p=news/show&l=en&news_id=26 http://profusion.mobi/files/images/electrolux_en.jpg Nov 24 06:52:09 heyho Nov 24 06:54:34 it probably even tells you how much beer is inside :) Nov 24 07:11:06 PaulFertser: heh... wanted to post the same thing. 8) Nov 24 07:11:19 PaulFertser: we need to port SHR there. 8) Nov 24 07:17:15 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r965ce2a070a2 10/libmsmcomm/src/event_pdsm.c: libmsmcomm: implement necessary get_size-methods for pdsm events Nov 24 07:17:16 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rf2fb04f83bc7 10/libmsmcomm/src/response_types.c: libmsmcomm: activate pdsm_pd_done and pdsm_xtra events Nov 24 07:17:19 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r25102ab944cf 10/libmsmcomm/src/ (msmcomm.h util.c): libmsmcomm: implement some to_string methods Nov 24 07:17:21 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rd5f43f6e9c6e 10/libmsmcomm/ (7 files in 3 dirs): libmsmcomm: rename cm call response to cm call callback response Nov 24 07:17:22 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rd2a2ecb469c5 10/libmsmcomm/src/ (event_call.c msmcomm.h util.c): libmsmcomm: add various cm_call status events Nov 24 07:17:23 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rb4e9ecaab07c 10/libmsmcomm/ (16 files in 4 dirs): libmsmcomm: change prefix call_* for call-specific messages to cm_call_* Nov 24 08:06:36 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r6230dc315bdf 10/libmsmcomm/ (5 files in 2 dirs): libmsmcomm: add more cm_ph events Nov 24 09:20:56 <[Rui]> Q-Master: well, that fridge's about as powerful as the Freerunner... so.... possible :) Nov 24 09:21:09 <[Rui]> but I guess the food would rot ;) Nov 24 09:21:25 <[Rui]> or not get as cold as it should ;) Nov 24 09:23:16 <[Rui]> nah... I'm just being unfairly mean :) Nov 24 09:25:21 and for sure the fridge has buzz too ;) Nov 24 09:26:23 so let's solder few capacitors to fridge and it's solved! :) Nov 24 09:26:36 :P Nov 24 10:36:25 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rd71f860ba836 10/msmcommd-specs/src/ (commands.vala unsolicited.vala): msmcomm-specs: adjust for recent changes in libmsmcomm Nov 24 10:36:26 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r5011e5206761 10/msmcommd/src/ (commands.vala dbusservice.vala): msmcommd: adjust for recent changes in libmsmcomm Nov 24 10:36:28 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r255d144edf68 10/libmsmcomm/vapi/msmcomm-1.0.vapi: libmsmcomm: update vapi for recent changes Nov 24 10:36:29 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r7056d7d9243b 10/msmcommd-specs/src/structs.vala: msmcommd-specs: implement to_variant()/from_variant() methods for struct NetworkStateInfo Nov 24 10:36:30 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r88c28665a93d 10/msmcommd-specs/src/unsolicited.vala: msmcommd-specs: we need the UrcType for fsogsmd ... so fetch it from the litter box ... Nov 24 10:36:40 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r667a552c3e89 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (callhandler.vala mediators_network.vala unsolicited.vala): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: compile with latest msmcomm version Nov 24 12:39:01 so frigde has moderd graphic accelerator, 32 bit depth and X11 to run EFL? Nov 24 12:39:20 ah, probably it works in 320x200 Nov 24 12:41:06 480x800 Nov 24 12:41:14 and no graphic accel Nov 24 12:41:20 just sw Nov 24 12:41:22 iirc Nov 24 12:47:29 * gena2x would only buy frigde based on qt, cause it faster Nov 24 13:05:50 gena2x: console based fridge would be much faster and funnier... 8) Nov 24 13:34:35 interesting, this mini2440 board seems quite popular, and uses... openmoko's u-boot :) it has linux based on open embedded. and happy users talking about ways to hack it in 2010. Nov 24 13:35:04 (few words about old hardware) Nov 24 13:35:42 intersting some of openmoko guys participating in this project? Nov 24 13:40:34 as long as you don't try to use it as smartphone :P Nov 24 13:41:25 hey, 'phone' part need really almost no resources Nov 24 13:42:03 yeah, but the 'smart' part a lot ;) Nov 24 14:29:38 SHR: 03mail 07libphone-ui-shr * r8195c6edc72c 10/src/view/message-list-view.c: message-list-view: workaround to make the list reload the contact name Nov 24 14:59:57 helo guys Nov 24 15:00:48 if my last build date a bit there not a less heavy way to refresh my build than rm -rf tmp/ ? Nov 24 15:01:46 can you rephrase a bit? Nov 24 15:03:22 JaMa|Wrk: yeah, when I tried to build something it failed on something it should'nt. so I surely need to clean my build dirs .so my question was : is there another to do that than a "rm -rf tmp/" ? Nov 24 15:05:18 if you need to clean your build dirs, then you have to clean those :) Nov 24 15:05:24 GarthPS: but keep tmp/cache Nov 24 15:06:01 JaMa|Wrk: ok ... thanks Nov 24 15:09:58 JaMa|Wrk: not a lot of things in tmp/cache ...bb_cache.dat and bb_persist_data.sqlite3 Nov 24 15:10:17 do I keep them ? Nov 24 15:19:20 bb_persist_data.sqlite3 is important to have incerasing SRCPV numbers (in case you plan to be able to opkg upgrade from image built before) Nov 24 15:19:35 bb_cache.dat is not important Nov 24 15:28:46 hi mrmoku Nov 24 15:29:07 any progress/news about n900 Nov 24 15:29:09 ? Nov 24 15:41:22 hi mickeyl Nov 24 15:41:30 GarthPS: you need them to keep versions of packages in consistance (upgradable) with what you built before rm -rf tmp Nov 24 15:41:37 do you have some plans for n900 suspend handling? Nov 24 15:41:38 if you don't care about that... you don't have to save it Nov 24 15:41:49 hi mrmoku Nov 24 15:41:54 hi GNUtoo Nov 24 15:41:57 suspend handling? Nov 24 15:42:00 ok thx Nov 24 15:42:47 I hope that with emtooth my bluetooth keyboard won't stop working like with hidd --server --connect Nov 24 15:43:18 mrmoku, someone said in the wiki that fso needed revamping for omap zeroclock Nov 24 15:43:47 GNUtoo: hmm... any link? which wiki? Nov 24 15:44:01 the fso wiki Nov 24 15:44:05 let me find it Nov 24 15:44:08 I thought that stuff would be kernel only... automatic Nov 24 15:44:26 yes me too, apart that it needs a resume reason Nov 24 15:45:26 does it? no suspend - no resume. And no resume - no reason for it :) Nov 24 15:45:53 ? Nov 24 15:46:00 suspend/resume works at kernel level Nov 24 15:46:08 altough it would be great to handle it Nov 24 15:46:16 at least do something like htcdream Nov 24 15:47:01 but zeroclock != suspend, no? Nov 24 15:47:27 hmm... maybe I should read up on zeroclock Nov 24 15:47:59 me too Nov 24 15:48:08 but try apm Nov 24 15:48:51 grr /me break SRCPV a bit Nov 24 15:49:44 with this http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=7bfcf5198dc06e18b20088d1753b299e8fa5ad90 those 4 recipes are restarted with gitr0+ :/ Nov 24 15:53:22 grr bt kbd Nov 24 15:53:58 * GNUtoo meant apm -s Nov 24 15:54:21 SRCPV fixed on shr buildhost Nov 24 15:56:04 * mrmoku wonders if he should give ubifs a try :) Nov 24 16:03:48 ubifs woulf overwrite maemo Nov 24 16:04:03 so be sure to backup everything Nov 24 16:04:49 why? (but yes backup everything :)) Nov 24 16:06:21 GNUtoo: doing that on my gta02 :) Nov 24 16:06:38 and I guess ubifs image for n900 won't be correct without MKUBIFS_ARGS in nokia900.conf Nov 24 16:06:41 * mrmoku needs SHR again after testing WS with qtmoko yesterday Nov 24 16:07:31 mrmoku: so in the end you had WS with qtmoko kernel and qtmoko rootfs, right? Nov 24 16:08:27 yup :) Nov 24 16:08:49 hmm... kernel panic... guess my dfu-util is still not working :/ Nov 24 16:11:15 * mrmoku builds dfu-util from source to see if that works better Nov 24 16:12:57 ohh Nov 24 16:13:00 No such Alternate Setting: "rootfs" Nov 24 16:14:29 heh Nov 24 16:14:41 Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=0, name="UNDEFINED" Nov 24 16:14:44 Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=1, name="UNDEFINED" Nov 24 16:14:47 and so on... Nov 24 16:25:19 hi pespin Nov 24 16:25:36 you wrote emtooth, so you must know it, and also know bluetooth Nov 24 16:25:39 GNUtoo, hi! Nov 24 16:25:45 right? Nov 24 16:25:49 GNUtoo, yeah Nov 24 16:25:52 ok Nov 24 16:25:59 so I connect with emtooth Nov 24 16:26:02 well, I know a bit of bluez I learned from using it hehe Nov 24 16:26:03 the keyboard works fine Nov 24 16:26:14 there s aproblem now with bluetooth Nov 24 16:26:17 until some point Nov 24 16:26:23 where the keyboard stop working Nov 24 16:26:26 that is to say: Nov 24 16:26:29 as we don't use udev, you have to run bluetoothd when powering up the device Nov 24 16:26:35 connect,pair,type password,etc... Nov 24 16:26:48 then chat on irc using the keyboard Nov 24 16:26:51 for 10min Nov 24 16:26:52 or more Nov 24 16:26:59 then it stops working at some point Nov 24 16:27:02 when you type Nov 24 16:27:06 nothing appear on the screen Nov 24 16:27:10 I'm in that state Nov 24 16:27:15 so...I've mdbus2 Nov 24 16:27:15 ok Nov 24 16:27:20 I've org.bluez Nov 24 16:27:28 let me show you some stuff: Nov 24 16:27:31 yes, but maybe it lost the connection Nov 24 16:27:32 ok Nov 24 16:27:45 you could list bluez properties Nov 24 16:28:23 that's what I'm doing Nov 24 16:28:24 (and btw, another posibiity is that bluetoothd is not running.. it crashed sometimes when using it) Nov 24 16:28:37 but if you have org.bluez, it should be running Nov 24 16:28:50 http://pastebin.com/SJqcm00U Nov 24 16:29:15 pidof bluetoothd => 953 Nov 24 16:30:37 well as you can see, it disconnects automatically Nov 24 16:30:41 hmm Nov 24 16:31:39 GNUtoo, can you try using org.bluez.Input.Connect() ? Nov 24 16:32:21 I'm sorry but it has been a while since I last played with bluez. The thing i best remember is that it's a bit crappy jejeje Nov 24 16:33:21 ok Nov 24 16:33:49 I tried using a bt kb too, and I had lots of problems Nov 24 16:34:01 it was quite unusable Nov 24 16:34:13 sometimes it printed lots of time the same letter Nov 24 16:34:23 and it disconnected quite frequently too Nov 24 16:34:46 I often have that just before disconnection Nov 24 16:34:56 but it seem to work under gnome Nov 24 16:35:14 btw, which bluez version do we have in shr? Nov 24 16:35:32 they are releasing new version quite frequently, we may want to try newer release Nov 24 16:35:36 mdbus2 -s org.bluez /org/bluez/950/hci0/dev_00_12_A1_69_41_77 org.bluez.Input.Connect => org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Host is down (112) Nov 24 16:35:44 I've newer release Nov 24 16:35:49 from yesterday Nov 24 16:35:59 I did bitbake shr-image yesterday Nov 24 16:36:05 I run my own images on n900 Nov 24 16:37:46 GNUtoo, and you don't have bluez 4.80? Nov 24 16:37:55 *so you have bluez 4.80? Nov 24 16:39:28 bluez4 - 4.59-r8.0.6 - Linux Bluetooth Stack Userland V4 Nov 24 16:41:17 GNUtoo, could you try building 4.80 and trying again? Nov 24 16:41:58 and if it builds fine you could push it to OE too :) Nov 24 16:42:05 hmmm Nov 24 16:42:39 Version: 4.60-0ubuntu8 Nov 24 16:42:46 on my trisquel laptop distro Nov 24 16:42:51 where it seem to works fine Nov 24 16:43:02 but I can try 4.80 too Nov 24 16:43:06 * pespin looking for info on that error Nov 24 16:43:20 ok thanks a lot!!! Nov 24 16:43:29 basically the keyboard works on my desktop Nov 24 16:43:33 GNUtoo, I found someone having the same problem with the bt KB I tried and using gta02 too Nov 24 16:43:35 and you had the same issues Nov 24 16:43:44 ok Nov 24 16:43:58 I'm on n900 with SHR, so nearly the same, apart the hardware Nov 24 16:44:50 I think is a good idea to upgrade to latest rev, as they are constantly releasing new versions, and that would mean to me that they fix bugs quickly but do new ones quite frequently too ;) Nov 24 16:49:12 ok Nov 24 16:51:50 GNUtoo, heh, seems there are similar errors in nexusone+cyanogen Nov 24 16:51:51 http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2268 Nov 24 16:52:59 ok Nov 24 16:54:04 I made a 4.80 recipe Nov 24 16:54:10 let's get the checksums Nov 24 16:54:12 and try it Nov 24 16:56:38 JaMa|Wrk: root@om-gta02 ~ # ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -O 2048 -m 6 Nov 24 16:56:38 ubiattach: error!: cannot attach mtd6 error 22 (Invalid argument) Nov 24 16:56:53 after flashing with nandwrite -p /dev/mt6 ... Nov 24 16:57:19 and dmesg is full of corrupted PEBs Nov 24 16:57:31 mrmoku, ouch Nov 24 16:57:58 mrmoku, did you flash the .ubi file? Nov 24 16:58:01 or the .ubifs? Nov 24 16:59:53 ohh... good question :P Nov 24 17:00:01 ubifs Nov 24 17:00:15 * mrmoku hides in shame Nov 24 17:00:15 you should flash the .ubi if you're using dfu-utils Nov 24 17:00:21 np Nov 24 17:00:27 everybody makes errors Nov 24 17:01:03 yeah Nov 24 17:01:37 dos1: happy birthday :) Nov 24 17:01:48 now you're a _real_ man :P Nov 24 17:02:50 heh... fun Nov 24 17:03:01 I first used flash_eraseall + nandwrite via vala-terminal Nov 24 17:03:08 and wondered why it is sooo much slower than normal Nov 24 17:05:47 mrmoku: hehe, yeah ;) thanks! Nov 24 17:09:03 ah it's dos1's birthday, then happy birthday dos1 Nov 24 17:09:04 dos1, you are 18 yo today? happy birthday :D Nov 24 17:09:44 * pespin 's getting old, going for the 20th in january :P Nov 24 17:09:50 mrmoku, how did you know his birth date? Nov 24 17:22:42 hehe it looks like efennith is having great success ;) Nov 24 17:25:25 pespin, I can't build bluetooth 4.80 Nov 24 17:25:28 I'll try in #oe Nov 24 17:25:35 it wants to build another version Nov 24 17:25:44 4.59 Nov 24 17:25:45 I tried: Nov 24 17:25:56 *grepping for DEFAULT_PREFERENCE in bluez dir Nov 24 17:26:07 grepping for 4.59 or bluez4 in conf Nov 24 17:27:39 GNUtoo, ok thanks */me opens #oe channel* Nov 24 17:41:44 GNUtoo, btw, do you know whos responsible of no alsa state change when audio jack is plugged in? fso? Nov 24 17:49:56 pespin: alsa state files should be changed with a recent kernel but it seems fso ships with some bad state files Nov 24 17:50:12 http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/595 Nov 24 17:51:33 Paulus, well, stereout / gsm one is working Nov 24 17:51:52 ah, only headset ones ;) Nov 24 17:51:53 jep for me too Nov 24 17:52:56 Paulus, do you know if those files should be in some fso repo? or somewhere else in OE? Nov 24 17:54:46 pespin: yes they are Nov 24 17:55:14 they are in [cornucopia.git] / fsodeviced / conf / Nov 24 17:57:05 GNUtoo|laptop: I remembered from one year ago Nov 24 17:57:13 (well actually my laptop :P) Nov 24 18:00:56 Paulus: do you have good ones to share? Nov 24 18:02:06 mickeyl, ^ could review + add those new alsa files please? :D Nov 24 18:02:40 i just have the ones wich are linked in fso trac, they work for me, but i am shure soundquality could be improved Nov 24 18:02:40 ahh... attached with the ticket Nov 24 18:02:44 yeah Nov 24 18:02:52 maybe we should do something Nov 24 18:03:03 I don't have om-gta02 with me Nov 24 18:03:06 so I can't test Nov 24 18:03:13 the only device I have is nokia900 Nov 24 18:05:51 GNUtoo|laptop, I'll try them later on FR. btw, talked with fidencio Nov 24 18:06:14 GNUtoo|laptop, he doesn't even have commit access to OE hehe Nov 24 18:06:46 so if you don't mind, it would be great if you polished enjoy+lightmediascanner recipes and commit them ;) Nov 24 18:07:09 does someone know whats the trick to get the entryfild black like in efenniht? the one wich is used in shr-messages Nov 24 18:07:37 hmm... we should package that them... and make it work Nov 24 18:07:44 as everybody seems to go mad for it :P Nov 24 18:08:12 i just want to update nEo-theme :D Nov 24 18:08:36 mrmoku, package what? enjoy, efennith or alsa states? +1 for all of them :D Nov 24 18:10:09 pespin: was refering to efennith Nov 24 19:05:09 TAsn: what do you know about elm_win_layer_set ? Nov 24 19:27:09 pespin, ok but I can't promize when I'll do it Nov 24 19:28:42 GNUtoo|laptop, np, take your time Nov 24 19:33:51 mrmoku, that there are layers and this sets them? :P Nov 24 19:34:06 mrmoku, iirc there's a widget layer Nov 24 19:34:08 a regular layer Nov 24 19:34:15 and I don't remember what other layers there are Nov 24 19:34:26 I'm not even sure exactly what there is. Nov 24 19:40:31 TAsn: what layer should idle screen go in ? :P Nov 24 19:40:51 or better... how do we let idle screen overlay the topbar again Nov 24 19:42:57 mrmoku: i think that's e-wm/illume problem, not our - it's the same with vala-terminal Nov 24 19:43:20 dos1: vala-terminal fullscreen mode? Nov 24 19:43:20 hmm Nov 24 19:43:24 mrmoku: yup Nov 24 19:43:33 and gtk dialogs too Nov 24 19:43:46 e.g. the options dialog of pidgin Nov 24 19:44:04 there you can't change the tabs because they are under the top bar Nov 24 19:44:04 hehe... vala-terminal fullscreen is deadly :P Nov 24 19:46:54 yeah ;) Nov 24 20:26:50 pespin, bt coexistance was off. let's try to put it on Nov 24 20:29:44 * pespin goes out, will return in about 1-2 hours ;) (choir rehersal) Nov 24 20:31:43 mrmoku, fullscreen, as dos1 said. Nov 24 20:39:28 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r0c2d8de90712 10/ (libmsmcomm/src/util.c msmcommd-specs/src/structs.vala): msmcomm: fix some oops in msmcommd and libmsmcomm Nov 24 20:43:45 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r172fd82b6dd9 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (4 files): Nov 24 20:43:45 freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: fix some oops to work with latest msmcomm Nov 24 20:43:45 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Nov 24 20:49:15 hi morphis Nov 24 20:49:19 sms works now? Nov 24 20:49:33 heyho Nov 24 20:49:36 sms in msmcomm? Nov 24 20:49:41 not really Nov 24 20:49:43 ok Nov 24 20:49:49 I get the event when I receive one Nov 24 20:49:58 but more does not work currently Nov 24 20:50:00 you prefer xmpp? Nov 24 20:50:05 puuh Nov 24 20:50:10 we can talk here Nov 24 20:50:10 ? Nov 24 20:50:12 ok Nov 24 20:50:23 then it's better Nov 24 20:50:32 JaMa|Wrk: you can now use recent fsogsmd with recent msmcomm in SHR again Nov 24 20:51:06 more doesn't work because more isn't implemented but will be? Nov 24 20:51:23 or more doesn't work because of some blocking issues that need to be sorted out" Nov 24 20:51:23 isn't implemented and needs some more research Nov 24 20:51:29 ok Nov 24 20:51:33 no, no real blocking issues Nov 24 20:51:37 ok nice Nov 24 20:51:40 I know which message are there Nov 24 20:51:45 * GNUtoo is testing bt coexistance Nov 24 20:51:51 and how to use them Nov 24 20:51:55 ok Nov 24 20:51:57 bt on pre? Nov 24 20:52:06 I've no pre Nov 24 20:52:14 so on n900 Nov 24 20:52:17 ah ok Nov 24 20:52:26 basically I had huge bt keyboard issues Nov 24 20:52:34 I echoed 1 to bt coex node Nov 24 20:52:39 and let's see... Nov 24 20:53:01 I took a short look on the Pre some days ago Nov 24 20:53:08 ok Nov 24 20:53:12 and? Nov 24 20:53:16 as I saw I need to rewrite my own hci_attach for that Nov 24 20:53:22 ouch Nov 24 20:53:23 ok Nov 24 20:53:31 as hci_attach is using std. tty Nov 24 20:53:31 so it's serial Nov 24 20:53:35 and we have a hsuart Nov 24 20:53:42 are you really sure of that Nov 24 20:53:45 with no terminal settings Nov 24 20:53:51 really sure Nov 24 20:53:55 on htcdream there is a ttymsmhs Nov 24 20:54:00 ok Nov 24 20:54:04 it's the same sort of uart which is used for modem Nov 24 20:54:08 ah ok Nov 24 20:55:56 GNUtoo: wuups, your IRC client segfaul'ed? Nov 24 20:56:17 not really Nov 24 20:56:22 :) Nov 24 20:56:23 it's my quit message Nov 24 20:56:38 basically I quit and saw a pm Nov 24 20:56:42 ah Nov 24 20:57:03 so I launch it again to see the pm quicker than looking at the logs Nov 24 20:57:14 anyway for the quit message Nov 24 20:57:35 a great percentage of time is spent debugging in embedded world Nov 24 20:57:52 in embedded linux primer they even say something in theses lines Nov 24 20:57:57 jepp Nov 24 20:58:07 I had a lot of segfaults in msmcomm the last days ... Nov 24 20:58:12 your ability to debug will depend the success of your project Nov 24 20:58:19 ok Nov 24 20:58:57 it works :) Nov 24 20:59:07 what works? Nov 24 20:59:15 msmcommd? Nov 24 20:59:41 msmcommd + libmsmcomm + fsogsmd plugin Nov 24 20:59:46 ok Nov 24 21:01:39 msmcommd + fsogsmd plugin is vala and libmsmcomm is plain c Nov 24 21:01:45 ok Nov 24 21:04:50 and the N900? Nov 24 21:05:09 bluetooth + wifi is working? Nov 24 21:10:58 morphis, it seem so Nov 24 21:11:06 with PSM etc...for wifi Nov 24 21:11:09 free kernel Nov 24 21:11:14 we just had to package it Nov 24 21:11:23 we even have usb host working Nov 24 21:11:30 thanks to the people who aded it Nov 24 21:12:18 great Nov 24 21:14:14 morphis I go to eat but after I have some question for you about pre Nov 24 21:14:54 ok Nov 24 21:17:57 <[Rui]> hi all Nov 24 21:19:35 GNUtoo: I will work a little bit on Pre2 kernel support in the next days too Nov 24 21:19:48 so GarthPS can test SHR even on the Pre 2 Nov 24 21:20:03 and I would really like to have a Pre 2 device Nov 24 21:21:14 GarthPS: btw the shr-lite-image is ready for you Nov 24 21:21:29 ok Nov 24 21:32:57 I already took a look on the patches palm has published some days ago and they don't added a lot for kernel support of the pre 2 Nov 24 21:33:02 it's still the same board Nov 24 21:33:15 with just another cpu which is even compatible with the one before Nov 24 21:37:29 hey morphis, Nov 24 21:37:38 papa-piet: heyho Nov 24 21:38:01 evry now and then I'm building shr for Nov 24 21:38:40 pre from oe, last week there was an issue with msmmcommd Nov 24 21:38:56 s/msmmcommd/msmmcomm Nov 24 21:39:19 *something*get_frame_type Nov 24 21:40:27 double declaration.... is this solved? Nov 24 21:43:43 jepp Nov 24 21:43:49 it's solved Nov 24 21:43:54 and I fixed some more bugs Nov 24 21:44:15 will bump msmcomm + fsogsmd in OE Nov 24 21:44:25 nice :) Nov 24 21:44:30 but if you even build with autorev then rebuild :) Nov 24 21:50:24 morphis, rebuilding :) Nov 24 21:50:41 hehe Nov 24 21:51:31 morphis, you still don't plan to attend open sw-hw-event? Nov 24 21:51:52 jepp Nov 24 21:51:57 it's too far Nov 24 21:52:03 and I don't have enough money Nov 24 21:52:19 why did you choose munich? Nov 24 21:52:28 why in the south? Nov 24 21:52:37 :) Nov 24 21:52:52 a real pity Nov 24 21:53:40 jepp Nov 24 21:53:55 maybo someone from the north is driving? Nov 24 21:54:09 morphis: no chance for a cheap "travel agency" (mitfahrzentralen or the like) ride? Nov 24 21:54:20 morphis: i really enjoyed the experience ;) Nov 24 21:54:32 no Nov 24 21:54:53 and one could ask for a bed in munic, thats why it was munic... Nov 24 21:55:14 will think about that Nov 24 21:55:33 beacase there was the maximum of attendents Nov 24 21:55:57 JaMa|Wrk: hi, i tried merge shr git to qtmoko git and it seems it's ok (boots ;-) Nov 24 21:56:15 radekp: you mean kernel? Nov 24 21:56:21 morphis: yes Nov 24 21:57:03 ask on the ML for a ride, if you want to come Nov 24 21:57:04 radekp: good :) Nov 24 21:57:22 radekp: now you can try gta02_drm_defconfig :) Nov 24 21:57:29 JaMa|Wrk: i'll do some more testing, but i think we can have the same sources now Nov 24 21:57:33 papa-piet: will do if I get my decision Nov 24 21:57:56 radekp: is 100HZ safe? Nov 24 21:58:04 JaMa|Wrk: i can try, but i wonder if qtmoko needs DRM Nov 24 21:58:09 lo chan Nov 24 21:58:27 JaMa|Wrk: hmm i was very busy so, i havent tested 100HZ extensively Nov 24 21:58:29 morphis: yeah about the imageit is this one right ? http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~morphis/oe/palmpre/deploy/images/palmpre/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20101124-palmpre.rootfs.tar.bz2 Nov 24 21:59:02 jepp Nov 24 21:59:12 GarthPS: but I should have trouble with the kernel Nov 24 21:59:26 morphis: you me I not you Nov 24 21:59:33 radekp: ok, that's afaik only patch I don't have in shr kernel from qtmoko.. so I'll add it later too Nov 24 21:59:35 I don't know if the Pre one is booting on the Pre 2 Nov 24 21:59:51 GarthPS: right Nov 24 22:00:02 radekp: also that bt state patch, which I'm not sure if it's really needed Nov 24 22:00:16 GarthPS owns PRE2? Nov 24 22:00:23 so if follow this howto http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre:_Install_FSO ? Nov 24 22:00:24 yop Nov 24 22:00:30 papa-piet: 2 pr e2 :) Nov 24 22:00:31 jepp Nov 24 22:00:42 * papa-piet want too Nov 24 22:00:50 GarthPS: it will boot but you will not have a full populated /dev Nov 24 22:01:10 GarthPS: as we don't use udev on SHR for Pre devices Nov 24 22:01:14 GarthPS: we use devtmpfs Nov 24 22:01:29 GarthPS: and that needs a lot of patches I added to the Pre Kernel Nov 24 22:02:16 morphis: ok . you added or you will add ? Nov 24 22:02:32 morphis: in the step 2. when do we restore back /sbin/init.old ? Nov 24 22:02:53 I added Nov 24 22:03:22 JaMa|Wrk: IIRC FSO powers up bt after resume, but qtmoko does not do it Nov 24 22:03:30 GarthPS: you can restore /sbin/init.old when you want to go back to webOS on next boot Nov 24 22:03:56 GarthPS: if you download the webos-doctor and extract the jar Nov 24 22:04:03 JaMa|Wrk: so without the patch bt is always off in qtmoko after resume Nov 24 22:04:08 you will find a uImage prepared with an initramfs from palm Nov 24 22:04:36 you can boot this with 'novaterm boot mem:// < uImage' Nov 24 22:04:39 morphis: ok so to be sure can you tell me how do I revert to boot webos back ? just move back /sbin/init.old ? just that ? Nov 24 22:04:43 and can now login via novaterm Nov 24 22:04:55 radekp: ah I see, thanks Nov 24 22:04:59 mv /sbin/init.old /sbin/init Nov 24 22:05:05 JaMa|Wrk: with 2.6.29 it was working ok Nov 24 22:05:15 or if /sbin/init is a link Nov 24 22:05:22 rm /sbin/init && mv /sbin/init.old Nov 24 22:05:52 JaMa|Wrk: so i think kernel is the right place to fix it (and it's quite logical if the state before suspend is same as after resume) Nov 24 22:05:54 morphis: did you add palmpre override later (I forget about pre when pushing this) http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=3648dfb64d8bf9b883567a2329ee5ea6cc8af044 Nov 24 22:06:26 morphis: OH there is one show stope : novacom deos not properly work with the pre2 right now! I am using thre precom-progs vezrsion which i am not that is can do all that stuff Nov 24 22:06:32 radekp: agreed, I'll apply it with HZ100 later Nov 24 22:07:14 morphis: can you add a paragrahpe to the wiki about howto revert ? plz? :) Nov 24 22:07:23 JaMa|Wrk: i have 100HZ now running on the phone so i can report after a few days how it works Nov 24 22:08:20 gnite all Nov 24 22:08:25 gn Nov 24 22:08:44 JaMa|Zzz: I added an override for the palmpre for udev yes ... Nov 24 22:08:53 JaMa|Zzz: but where did it go? Nov 24 22:09:28 JaMa|Zzz: or no, I just took the default IMAGE_DEV_MANAGE = "" and didn't add the override Nov 24 22:09:33 will do that Nov 24 22:09:53 GarthPS: will add the paragraph Nov 24 22:10:05 morphis: ok thx!! Nov 24 22:10:43 morphis: so if i test it right know what should miss due to devtempfs ? Nov 24 22:11:21 GarthPS: hm Nov 24 22:11:37 GarthPS: you will not have usbnet Nov 24 22:11:59 as it is deactivated per default on Palms kernel Nov 24 22:12:11 morphis: hum so quite useles if there is no terminal , is there ? Nov 24 22:12:49 am I not supposed to used your kernel ? Nov 24 22:13:05 uImage-palmpre.bin Nov 24 22:13:21 puuh Nov 24 22:13:27 :) Nov 24 22:13:30 I cannot give you any advice to do so Nov 24 22:13:41 its your own risk to boot the pre kernel on the pre 2 Nov 24 22:13:51 :) Nov 24 22:13:56 you can try ... Nov 24 22:14:20 hm I think the best option is the following Nov 24 22:14:43 give me some days, I will look into the details Nov 24 22:15:02 ok so for know i am supposed to mix up the howto a bit as there is no kernel rigth now and as there is not a fso2-demo-image-palmpre.ext3 but a shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20101124-palmpre.rootfs.tar.bz2 Nov 24 22:15:03 maybe we have only the exchange the defconfig of the kernel Nov 24 22:15:20 right Nov 24 22:18:57 morphis: hm.. firslty as it is not an ext3 I am not sure to know howto handle the bz2 . i need to extract it into the new partition so i don't need to resize2fs right ? Nov 24 22:19:19 just umount /media/fso ans extract in it right ? Nov 24 22:19:31 oup Nov 24 22:19:41 s/umount/mount Nov 24 22:20:23 morphis: I have to skip umount, dd and resize2fs. but then I am missing a step no ? Nov 24 22:21:01 oh no ok that should be all Nov 24 22:35:22 GarthPS, this should be the way to go Nov 24 22:36:15 papa-piet: ok thx. you've got a pre too ? Nov 24 22:36:19 not 2 :) Nov 24 22:36:47 GarthPS, yep Nov 24 22:37:12 i've got a pre (not plus) Nov 24 22:38:37 papa-piet: cool how many dev works on this then ? Nov 24 22:38:55 papa-piet: mor, you and ? Nov 24 22:39:47 GarthPS, unfortunatly im not really working on that, my life is at the moment very time consuming Nov 24 22:40:49 papa-piet: bouh :p Nov 24 22:41:30 GarthPS, well i heared that GNUtoo planned to put his hands on it, but dont know whether he did Nov 24 22:43:14 papa-piet: nope not yet I think. too expensive I heard . if i am not wrong. me buy it with abonnement so..; Nov 24 22:44:49 I'm too unexperienced too, to be a real help, but I try :) promice Nov 24 22:50:01 papa-piet: i am not a pro too.. i learn :) I have to go gn! Nov 24 22:50:57 byegn Nov 25 00:34:12 mrmoku: what's up with munich meeting? need to close my calendar Nov 25 00:35:02 I'm not really worried if you don't need me there. but if you do, please let me know soon **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 25 02:59:58 2010