**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 30 02:59:57 2010 Nov 30 07:25:52 moin Nov 30 07:27:46 JaMa: moin Nov 30 09:29:17 Heinervdm: morning Nov 30 09:29:24 Heinervdm: there is a workaround for the shutdown Nov 30 09:29:52 Heinervdm: turning off the autoclosing of mux sessions in fsogsmd.conf Nov 30 09:30:04 dunno what other sideeffects that has though ;) Nov 30 09:42:56 mrmoku: :) Nov 30 09:43:11 mrmoku: I think it can also be a bug in eglibc Nov 30 09:43:22 do you remeber when it occured first? Nov 30 09:43:27 Heinervdm: or in the kernel :P Nov 30 09:43:44 * mrmoku found some tcdrain kernel stuff while googling Nov 30 09:43:52 Heinervdm: no, don't remember Nov 30 09:43:58 i will build an image with oder eglibc tonight Nov 30 09:44:04 ok Nov 30 09:45:55 first report is over 4 month ago... Nov 30 09:58:08 mrmoku: This seems to be the first report of this bug: http://www.mail-archive.com/shr-user@lists.shr-project.org/msg04894.html Nov 30 09:58:21 from 13. May Nov 30 09:59:34 Heinervdm: ok Nov 30 10:01:04 oldest images on buildhost are from June Nov 30 10:01:26 Heinervdm: does it happen in testing? Nov 30 10:03:11 don't know Nov 30 10:03:35 we used eglibc-2.11 at that time and the last update was 2 month ago Nov 30 10:03:41 so this can't be the case Nov 30 10:03:44 cause Nov 30 10:04:09 switch from 2.6.28 to 2.6.32? Nov 30 10:05:01 we switched from eglibc 2.11 to 2.12 at 26.5. Nov 30 10:05:34 2010-05-12 shr: prefer gcc-4.4.4 Nov 30 10:07:20 i can't find the switch to 2.6.32 Nov 30 10:08:51 2010-06-25 3c8aa3ac190b58a1ad55b522434dae06b592de33 Nov 30 10:09:04 but i think someone should try if that bug occours in shr-t Nov 30 10:09:41 the old testing is from before 13.5. and the new one from after that Nov 30 10:12:13 if the bug isn't present in these images someone should try the shr-u image from june Nov 30 10:12:24 i can't because i don't have my FR with me Nov 30 10:16:17 heinervdm: I don't have testing branch locally but I could get my hands on it easy enough. Do you want a version build and tested? It'll take the best part of the day, but if you let me know I'll have a go. Nov 30 10:17:12 Arigead: it would be enough if someone flashes the existing images on buildhost, first the old shr-t one, then the newer shr-t one Nov 30 10:18:04 Arigead: and try if it shuts down imediatly when you press the shutdownbutton in quicksettings Nov 30 10:18:43 and if it works in the new shr-t too, then check the oldest shr-u/old image from june Nov 30 10:19:22 I have a spare sd partition from a failed upgrade, I could test the shr-t Nov 30 10:20:40 cargill: everyone is welcome, we need to find the time when this bug was introduced :) Nov 30 10:20:40 Looking in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ full-om-gta02.jffs2 from the 29th of may Nov 30 10:20:58 Arigead: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/old/ Nov 30 10:21:13 it's this one? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/old/shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20100331-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz Nov 30 10:21:21 yes Nov 30 10:21:31 ok, downloading Nov 30 10:21:39 so one can try the old one and one the newer one Nov 30 10:21:50 lite is enough for test and faster to download :) Nov 30 10:22:29 Ok lite from the 29th Nov 30 10:22:39 great :) Nov 30 10:22:44 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/old/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100503-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Nov 30 10:23:12 cargill: take the one from jama Nov 30 10:23:13 20100331 is probably too old Nov 30 10:23:30 yes, haven't seen that there are multiple images in old Nov 30 10:24:08 ok Nov 30 10:26:55 do I need to download the kernel/do depmod -a with this image? with u-boot I had to Nov 30 10:27:12 cargill: do you have qi now? Nov 30 10:27:23 Heinervdm: yes Nov 30 10:27:26 cargill: for jffs2 image you have to download kernel Nov 30 10:27:39 cargill: then the image is enough Nov 30 10:27:41 and flash it to nand Nov 30 10:27:42 JaMa: this will go to an SD partition Nov 30 10:27:43 just extract it Nov 30 10:27:51 then as Heinervdm said.. Nov 30 10:27:55 ok, thanks Nov 30 10:31:27 off-t, how do you backup the opimd db when performing reinstall? Nov 30 10:31:50 cargill: just copy /etc/freesmartphone/opim/pim.db Nov 30 10:33:46 thanks, last time I investigated, just dumped the db using opimd-cli and left it for later Nov 30 10:35:56 shutdown works in shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100503 Nov 30 10:37:14 cargill: ok, thx Nov 30 10:37:40 cargill: you used the shutdownbutton from quicksettings? Nov 30 10:37:44 just to be shure Nov 30 10:37:45 * cargill is heading off for lunch, will be back in an hour Nov 30 10:38:12 pressed the power button, then 'shutdown' Nov 30 10:38:26 cargill: ok Nov 30 10:38:50 i hope that we had quicksettings in that image :) Nov 30 10:39:04 and it's not the dialog from illume 1 Nov 30 10:39:43 no it looks just like the one that is in shr-u now Nov 30 10:39:50 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/old/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100503-om-gta02-testlab/files-in-image.txt has phoneui-quick-settings :) Nov 30 10:40:30 however illume keeps dying on me :) Nov 30 10:41:10 how does it die? Nov 30 10:52:55 lite 29th May Shutdown practically imediate. slight pause on home screen then out in about 2 seconds I'd say. I have QI on this phone I hope that's not going to mess this up. Nov 30 10:53:21 that's 2 seconds to shutdown in total Nov 30 10:54:07 Arigead: ok, then we have introduced this bug later Nov 30 10:54:48 Heinervdm:Let me know if you want another version tested. Nov 30 10:55:22 this would be the next i can find: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/old/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100626-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz Nov 30 10:57:07 That last test I stuck in the kernel from last Mat as well. Will the kernel effect results? Downloading that version now. let me know about the kernel Nov 30 10:58:27 Arigead: are you flashing to nand? Nov 30 10:59:34 Heinervdm:yes, well I think yes I'm using dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 Nov 30 11:01:06 ok, then i think you need the right kernel Nov 30 11:01:19 but i can only find this one: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/old/uImage-2.6.32.13-oe3+gitr6+a9254be10ac2294ea20165a87c09ea6afcf66d94-r0-om-gta02.bin Nov 30 11:01:59 I'll try it out Nov 30 11:27:42 * Heinervdm lunch Nov 30 11:43:31 Heinervdm: 20100626 is Good. Nov 30 12:08:47 Arigead: that's bad :D Nov 30 12:10:09 then the first report must be a different bug Nov 30 12:10:22 August is bad Nov 30 12:11:32 Arigead: ok, then it has to be between 26.06. and 29.08. Nov 30 12:11:40 Heinervdm: Maybe I'll retry june. August is taking an age to power down. There is no GSM Service so maybe there's a connection Nov 30 12:11:40 still 2 months Nov 30 12:11:58 There is a July version that I skipped. I'll go and check that one Nov 30 12:12:09 ok Nov 30 12:12:48 if the july version is bad then we have just ~10 days left, that would be nice :) Nov 30 12:19:53 August is good and bad :-( When I first power up the phone and get to the home screen the gsm coverage at the top right (beside the battery status) is a circle with a line through it. If I shutdown then it shuts down immediately. If I wait till I've got a signal when I do a shutdown it immediately shuts down the gsm coverage to the circle to a line through it but does not actaully shut down the phone. A second shutdown will shutdown Nov 30 12:19:53 the phone. I'll go to July Nov 30 12:22:53 Arigead: ok, then this sounds like a different bug Nov 30 12:23:10 because in the latest images, the signalindicator doesn't change Nov 30 12:23:47 signa lindi cator indeed Nov 30 12:24:58 and that the bug doesn't occour when shutting down before fsogsmd is initialized because the bug is when closing the channels in fsogsmd Nov 30 12:25:04 :) Nov 30 12:25:43 :) Nov 30 12:26:09 ok So I should let the phone get a signal before I shut it down. In which case August ain't good. I'm downloading July Nov 30 12:41:34 July good Nov 30 12:46:52 Arigead: ok, thx then i will look at what changed between those two images Nov 30 12:47:46 Heinervdm: you're welcome, happy to help Nov 30 12:54:23 perhaps this was introduced with this: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=9e5b50834ffaa66092717b2ab83c520aa94e9500 Nov 30 12:55:43 or with one of the other 3 commits in august Nov 30 12:55:57 will try those this evening Nov 30 13:00:47 http://www.eglibc.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi?rev=11028&view=rev doesn't look so bad Nov 30 13:01:50 JaMa: the bump was from 10809 to this Nov 30 13:02:23 I know, but that's only change :) Nov 30 13:02:38 in eglibc_2.12 branch.. Nov 30 13:02:51 JaMa: ah ok :) Nov 30 13:03:14 JaMa: but doesn't have to be eglibc Nov 30 13:03:29 it's just my first assumption Nov 30 13:04:12 as it's hanging in tcdrain and thats a libc function Nov 30 13:04:35 and no kernel change between those 2 images? Nov 30 13:05:45 only stable patches Nov 30 13:05:51 same gitrev for all Nov 30 13:06:13 * JaMa would assume stable patch :) Nov 30 13:06:37 Testing another kernel would be an easy task Nov 30 13:06:56 just take the august image with the july kernel Nov 30 13:07:41 jup + sync modules Nov 30 13:20:16 even to version 11306 there is no commit that should show any result on arm Nov 30 13:21:11 then there is this -ggdb3 commit Nov 30 13:21:17 and a gcc bump Nov 30 13:33:05 Heinervdm: did you try to bump wpa_supplicant and had some problem? Or do you just want it? Nov 30 13:34:41 * mrmoku needs new wpa_supplicant + connman for the connman module in e :-) Nov 30 13:35:51 mrmoku: i never tried to bump it Nov 30 13:36:08 i just looked at the changelog Nov 30 13:36:11 Heinervdm: ok... it built fine... going to try it now :) Nov 30 13:36:17 ok Nov 30 13:49:29 mickey|office: hi, small question... what side-effects has it when we turn off the autoclosing of mux sessions on gta02? Nov 30 13:51:20 mickeyl: or alternativly replace tcdrain with tcflush in http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=blob;f=libfsotransport/fsotransport/basetransport.vala#l521 Nov 30 13:51:24 mrmoku: not a good one. As the TI Calypso does not feature going back to standard mode, it's not possible to seamlessly hook on again Nov 30 13:52:23 Heinervdm: well, drain() should still be drain(). If you don't want to drain, you should rather override it in the MUX transport Nov 30 13:55:15 mickey|office: we hunted down this bug: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/586 to that line Nov 30 13:55:29 it's hanging in the tcdrain forever Nov 30 13:55:35 interesting Nov 30 13:55:35 and we have no idea why Nov 30 13:55:47 welcome to the wonderful world of the Linux serial layer Nov 30 13:56:02 the interesting point is, that when you interrupt it with gdb and then continue it returns ;) Nov 30 14:04:46 mickey|office: ok Nov 30 14:15:24 could it be that the serial device is already closed at that point? Nov 30 14:15:38 because POFF is sent before Nov 30 14:16:36 but tcdrain should recognize that probably Nov 30 14:20:41 accourding to my search results that not always the case Nov 30 14:35:54 August Rootfs plus July Kernel exibits the same problem on trying to power down if it's any help. Nov 30 14:36:58 Arigead: ok, then it's not a kernel issue Nov 30 14:40:25 Heinervdm: The August rootfs is the one with the probelm where by the first powerdown request just kills the gsm. Would it be worth checking out a version between July and August to build and test it? Nov 30 14:41:06 That will take a while I know but if you want I can leave it over night and try it in the morning. Nov 30 14:43:42 wouldn't it be more effective to innstall the "good" image and then selectively upgrade likely culprits until it breaks?... Nov 30 14:46:53 antrik: i don't think that this will work, as if you upgrade eglibc it will automatically upgrade most of the other packages Nov 30 14:48:36 Arigead: i think i will try a workaround first: using flush instead of drain Nov 30 14:49:17 Heinervdm: Good luck with it Nov 30 14:57:43 how can this work? :D http://www.eglibc.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/branches/eglibc-2_12/libc/termios/tcdrain.c?rev=10495&view=markup Nov 30 15:03:11 Heinervdm: I think that's just the stub Nov 30 15:03:21 being overwritten by some arch specific code Nov 30 15:03:31 glibc code is a beast :P Nov 30 15:04:03 Heinervdm: err... why would a libc upgrade cause upgrade of other packages? Nov 30 15:04:41 antrik: ok that was the wrong way arround :) Nov 30 15:05:37 antrik: the problem is that it's really hard to do such a parial upgrade with oe Nov 30 15:08:19 GNUtoo|laptop: what I said last night was for n900 Nov 30 15:08:38 mrmoku, ? Nov 30 15:08:41 GNUtoo|laptop: if the nokia_av module is loaded and you plug in (or out) the headset fsodeviced goes into nirvana Nov 30 15:08:47 ah ok Nov 30 16:14:31 hi pespin Nov 30 16:14:42 are you available to finish the enjoy recipe? Nov 30 16:18:58 mrmoku, so should I change fsodeviced config to test your alsa changes? Nov 30 16:30:44 GNUtoo|laptop, hi, not at the moment. Non working OE + some work + going to have my hair cut :P Nov 30 16:30:56 ok Nov 30 16:31:04 I've pushed other stuff for oe Nov 30 16:31:09 that will wait then Nov 30 16:31:19 maybe I'll work a bit on n900 Nov 30 16:33:47 if I can get OE working I might try during the weekend (+monday to wednesday is holiday here). Nov 30 16:33:54 ok Nov 30 16:34:05 Does it remains any FSO's devs? (/me a bit teasing) Nov 30 16:34:14 ? Nov 30 16:34:37 GarthPS, what do you mean? Nov 30 16:35:09 mrmoku, any progress on top-bar Nov 30 16:35:10 ? Nov 30 16:35:26 I don't remember if you found the change Nov 30 16:36:20 GNUtoo|laptop: I wrote a mail to smartphones-standards a t linuxtogo.org (, oh it was only yesterday...) and don't have any answers yet Nov 30 16:36:39 GarthPS, I'm not suscribed to smartphones-standards Nov 30 16:36:43 only kernel and userland Nov 30 16:36:49 I'll look Nov 30 16:37:05 GNUtoo|laptop: I am wondering if there is only one person subscribed to it.. :) Nov 30 16:37:12 GNUtoo|laptop: thx! Nov 30 16:38:01 GarthPS, did it reach the list? Nov 30 16:38:04 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-standards/ Nov 30 16:38:10 * GNUtoo|laptop doesnt' see your mail Nov 30 16:38:13 we're in november Nov 30 16:38:17 and no november archive Nov 30 16:38:20 is present Nov 30 16:40:00 GNUtoo|laptop: I did not have any bad return Nov 30 16:40:13 the mail is a patch? return??? Nov 30 16:41:53 GNUtoo|laptop: I mean when your did not subscribed to a ML you recieve a "waiting for approuvement mail" but here nothing Nov 30 16:42:11 GNUtoo|laptop: did not fire up gitk on the repo... but the clone did successfully finish over night :) Nov 30 16:42:15 maybe your mail was too big? Nov 30 16:42:22 mrmoku, ok Nov 30 16:42:32 will take a look _now_ Nov 30 16:42:54 mrmoku, do what you wish because you're also doing alsa routing Nov 30 17:00:48 heyho Nov 30 17:03:36 hi Nov 30 17:09:52 dos1: any news from bearstech regarding trac? Nov 30 17:10:05 hi dos1 you're doing shr-settings right? Nov 30 17:10:24 there is an issue with ntpdate, shr-settings should RDEPENDS on ntpdate in oe Nov 30 17:14:22 GNUtoo|laptop: do we remember when this toolbar shit started? Nov 30 17:14:34 no Nov 30 17:14:38 :/ Nov 30 17:14:48 after the toolchain changes Nov 30 17:14:52 so it's not toolchain Nov 30 17:15:05 let me check if my nexusone rootfs has it Nov 30 17:15:11 or if I upgraded yesterday Nov 30 17:15:15 ok... dinner for me now Nov 30 17:15:16 bbiab Nov 30 17:15:24 ok Nov 30 17:21:06 is there still a gtk theme somewhere that works on touchscreen devices? Nov 30 17:21:12 like the old gta02 stuff Nov 30 17:26:56 GNUtoo|laptop, shr-settings uses nptclient afair. I did that part Nov 30 17:27:55 pespin|away, ok, could you send a patch for adding it as a dep Nov 30 17:28:03 RDEPENDS Nov 30 17:28:15 mrmoku, here's my version: Nov 30 17:28:20 201010271700 Nov 30 17:28:25 it has working top-bar Nov 30 17:28:39 but broken keyboard(it grows when cycling trough keyboards) Nov 30 17:28:42 GNUtoo|laptop, in fact I wanted to find if it was available in runtime and show a message telling the user to install it if he wanted that feature. Nov 30 17:28:51 and maybe supporting other apps, like ntpdate Nov 30 17:29:05 didn't have time to do it though Nov 30 17:29:17 mrmoku, shr-version http://pastebin.com/j5phZSwT Nov 30 17:29:30 pespin|away, ah ok Nov 30 17:29:43 then add it to RRECOMMANDS when you have time and implemented the feature Nov 30 17:29:56 GNUtoo|laptop: what is your email? I will forward it Nov 30 17:30:08 GarthPS, GNUtoo A no-log.org Nov 30 17:30:12 replace the A with @ Nov 30 17:30:15 I don't think I'll have time till christmas/januar/frebr Nov 30 17:30:20 hmmm Nov 30 17:30:28 pespin|away, so why not making a tiny source code change Nov 30 17:30:33 using busybox's ntpd Nov 30 17:30:58 because I need to find how does it work hehe Nov 30 17:31:03 simple Nov 30 17:31:05 ntpd -h Nov 30 17:31:06 GNUtoo|laptop: send Nov 30 17:31:09 ok Nov 30 17:31:24 so you see it is not soo long .. Nov 30 17:31:28 ok I'll look at it whenever I have little free time Nov 30 17:31:34 ok Nov 30 17:31:40 for instance: Nov 30 17:32:27 ntpd -q -n -p europe.pool.ntp.org Nov 30 17:33:24 ok thnx Nov 30 17:33:55 pespin|away, ah gps Nov 30 17:34:00 can I respond here Nov 30 17:34:08 next time maybe send to smartphone-userland Nov 30 17:34:13 I don't remember well Nov 30 17:34:14 BTW, why is there no auto-rotation in SHR out of the box? Nov 30 17:34:22 GNUtoo|laptop, gps? Nov 30 17:34:25 but I think gypsy will go Nov 30 17:34:27 oops Nov 30 17:34:30 sorry Nov 30 17:34:36 s/ pespin|away / GarthPS Nov 30 17:34:38 ah ok not for me ;) Nov 30 17:34:52 and I think gpsd will remains Nov 30 17:35:01 with some other higher level API Nov 30 17:35:08 I'm going out for some minutes, will return later Nov 30 17:35:16 geoclue has to be evaluated Nov 30 17:40:01 GNUtoo|laptop: fyi gpsd can send fix information via dbus signals on its own. Nov 30 17:40:08 GNUtoo|laptop: is it not enough? Nov 30 17:40:21 I'm not sure Nov 30 17:40:26 we should ask mickeyl Nov 30 17:40:30 GNUtoo|laptop: ok thx. do i consider your respon for an oficial on e? Nov 30 17:40:53 GarthPS, on e? Nov 30 17:41:09 GarthPS, if you want the exact logs with mickeyl I can lookup them for you Nov 30 17:41:15 GNUtoo|laptop: In fact I send this several time already to mickeyl wihtout a answer so it is why i send it to the ML Nov 30 17:41:29 GNUtoo|laptop: s/on e/ one Nov 30 17:41:38 I'm not mickeyl Nov 30 17:41:50 GNUtoo|laptop: :) Nov 30 17:41:54 he has the last word Nov 30 17:42:04 and I didn't participate in the implementation Nov 30 17:42:14 but as i can not have it... Nov 30 17:42:15 I just asked because I had a similar problem Nov 30 17:42:27 basically the htcdream has a reverse-enginnered gps activator Nov 30 17:42:34 so I wanted to add out-of-the-box gps Nov 30 17:42:39 so I asked about gps future Nov 30 17:42:43 and I was answered Nov 30 17:42:50 I'll eat soon Nov 30 17:43:45 GNUtoo|laptop: gpsd sends a signal with all the value for all devices it manages every time something is changed. http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gpsd;a=blob;f=gpsd_dbus.c;h=HEAD;hb=HEAD Nov 30 17:45:17 thanks Nov 30 17:45:36 http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gpsd;a=blob;f=gpsd_dbus.c;h=21a299372259831cae653a8cecc3d0b00c63ab5c;hb=HEAD ok Nov 30 17:45:44 GNUtoo|laptop: ok thx for your info. I think I have read a bit of your exchange with mickeyl on this subject Nov 30 17:46:02 JaMa: is gpsd in OE compiled with the dbus support enabled? I guess it shouldn't harm. Nov 30 17:46:12 ok Nov 30 17:46:13 bb Nov 30 17:46:31 GNUtoo|laptop: bon ap'! Nov 30 17:47:22 JaMa: it is, i've looked it up, sorry for bothering. Nov 30 17:53:41 GNUtoo|laptop: interesting Nov 30 17:53:47 back Nov 30 17:54:12 (I'll eat in about 15/20min, it has to bake) Nov 30 17:54:31 mrmoku, do you need more infos Nov 30 17:54:32 I've opkg Nov 30 17:54:39 opkg info something? Nov 30 17:54:48 opkg info e-wm maybe Nov 30 17:55:31 http://pastebin.com/XDbhMVFW Nov 30 17:56:39 GNUtoo|laptop: that was EFL_SRCREV 54526 Nov 30 17:56:51 huh? Nov 30 17:57:37 mrmoku, ? Nov 30 17:57:37 ahh... no Nov 30 17:57:46 ok Nov 30 17:58:28 so 54714 was good Nov 30 18:04:40 PaulFertser: sorry I was on way from work Nov 30 18:04:57 JaMa: on a bike? ;) Nov 30 18:05:27 too cold :P Nov 30 18:05:33 GNUtoo|laptop: heh... 54714 is what I have on my FR where it's not working :/ Nov 30 18:06:40 hmm... that would rule out complete efl ... Nov 30 18:06:53 GNUtoo|laptop: what Xorg do you have? Nov 30 18:07:53 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r3a9ae88792a3 10/fsogsmd/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Nov 30 18:07:53 freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: remove old and obsolete lowlevel_palmpre plugin Nov 30 18:07:53 freesmartphone.org: All functionality provided by lowlevel_palmpre is now available through the msmcommd Nov 30 18:07:53 freesmartphone.org: daemon. Nov 30 18:07:53 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Nov 30 18:08:19 GNUtoo|laptop: mine is 1.9.2.901 Nov 30 18:11:00 I'll look Nov 30 18:13:09 http://pastebin.com/5gF4zHz8 Nov 30 18:14:44 GNUtoo|laptop: so Xorg is different Nov 30 18:14:55 JaMa: possible that the toolbar bug is caused by X? Nov 30 18:15:25 JaMa: GNUtoo|laptop has a working image with the EFL_SRCREV we use now and does not have that issue Nov 30 18:15:28 but older X Nov 30 18:15:51 not sure.. but maybe worth trying with fbdev instead of glamo DDX Nov 30 18:16:29 at least to see if it's just garbage also with fbdev or drawn correctly (but still over) Nov 30 18:17:50 JaMa: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/20070102_per_erik_strandberg_balaclava_arranged.jpg Nov 30 18:19:59 JaMa: glamo can't be at fault, because the issue is on n900 images too Nov 30 18:23:42 morphis: heyho there. i am here if you need me Nov 30 18:24:32 GarthPS: heyho Nov 30 18:24:44 ok, I am currently busy with getting a shr-lite-image done for the weekend Nov 30 18:26:52 morphis: oh for your meeting right ? Nov 30 18:27:43 for the Openmoko SW HW Event, jepp Nov 30 18:27:48 but I will not be there Nov 30 18:28:04 JaMa: i use one made of fleece Nov 30 18:32:32 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r6ccf0a788765 10/msmcommd/src/lowlevelcontrol.vala: msmcommd: fix sysfs node name for lowlevel modem reset code Nov 30 18:33:48 mrmoku: ah I see Nov 30 18:34:10 PaulFertser: I also use similar from fleece.. but only for skiing Nov 30 18:34:34 hi everybody.problem with intone (tested on lite-image): FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found Nov 30 18:34:41 PaulFertser: there is ice almost everywhere on streets now.. so even with proper cloths I wouldn't risk it Nov 30 18:34:55 ritchy: shr-t? Nov 30 18:35:07 unstable Nov 30 18:35:20 latest release :) Nov 30 18:35:35 why are all org.freesmartphone.* interfaces still accessible when the daemons are not running? Nov 30 18:35:43 ritchy: you can install it by hand and I'll check why it's not in recipe's RDEPENDS Nov 30 18:35:53 yes; all right :) Nov 30 18:36:02 JaMa: in Moscow it's usually either ice on the pedestrian ways but clear roads or too much snow on the roads but clear pedestrian ways, so there's almost always a choice. Nov 30 18:36:58 PaulFertser: book I'm reading now in public transport is so great that I'm not much interested in biking to work nowadays :) Nov 30 18:38:07 JaMa: what book? Nov 30 18:38:15 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r5cacbacf271f 10/msmcommd/data/org.msmcomm.service.in: Nov 30 18:38:15 freesmartphone.org: msmcommd: tell other people we provide FSO resource Modem with our dbus config Nov 30 18:38:15 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Nov 30 18:38:19 JaMa: but i agree, a really decent reason. Nov 30 18:41:00 mickeyl: ping Nov 30 18:43:12 PaulFertser: Hamilton: The Reality Dysfunction Nov 30 18:43:44 JaMa: i've just finished "Fiasco" by Stanislav Lem. Nov 30 18:43:44 PaulFertser: currently 3rd, last volume (1100 pages each) Nov 30 18:44:21 Don't feel like reading some epic sci-fi now. Nov 30 18:45:34 I've ordered 4 books from Gipson including Neuromancer and the book where he talks about our freerunner (someone on ML reported) Nov 30 18:45:58 so I'll stay with my favourite genre sci-fi for a while :) Nov 30 18:47:23 GNUtoo|laptop, (ntpd) done Nov 30 18:47:27 SHR: 03pespin.shar 07shr-settings * ra23a4e1dcdd8 10/shr_settings_modules/shr_ntp.py: shr_ntp: use ntpd instead of ntpclient, as it comes with default image (busybox) Nov 30 18:50:31 pespin|away, thanks a lot Nov 30 18:51:04 yw :) Nov 30 18:51:48 PaulFertser, lol fiasco is also the nokia900 bootloader image format Nov 30 18:54:02 mrmoku, back, should I try something? Nov 30 18:54:37 PaulFertser: Stanisław Lem... i have to finally read something more than only "Bajki robotów" :x ("Robot stories"? dunno if and how it was translated) Nov 30 19:00:16 pespin|away: why don't u use the fsotdld for ntp? Nov 30 19:00:19 dos1: I'd translate "bajki" as "tales". Nov 30 19:00:52 mrmoku, are you here? Nov 30 19:00:53 PaulFertser: yeah, for sure it's better Nov 30 19:01:14 btw. is there a nice mail client? Nov 30 19:01:32 I used claws-mail right now... Nov 30 19:02:02 Heinervdm, because I didn't know it was able since moments after I commited it. When I have holidays I'll look into it Nov 30 19:03:42 pespin|away: ok, i just wanted to know :) but i can't find the documentation for ntp, so i don't know if it's accessable form dbus :( Nov 30 19:04:28 GNUtoo|laptop: now here Nov 30 19:04:30 Heinervdm, I was told it can do it automatically at bootup if it's configured in some specific way, but no real idea how does it work Nov 30 19:04:52 GNUtoo|laptop: dunno, but same EFL_REV clearly rules out e as culprit Nov 30 19:05:10 pespin|away: i'm looking at the code, perhaps i can find out sth. Nov 30 19:05:26 mrmoku, hmmm Nov 30 19:05:29 GNUtoo|laptop: could you try to downgrade X? Nov 30 19:05:41 for n900? Nov 30 19:05:42 mrmoku, no but I can try to upgrade it on working machine Nov 30 19:05:51 yeah, or that :) Nov 30 19:05:57 mrmoku, how do you feel on adding some config option to add "status message information" to phonefsod/phoneui? :) Nov 30 19:06:06 status report I mean Nov 30 19:06:27 pespin|away: IIRC it is half there... let me check Nov 30 19:06:40 (talking about sending sms I assume? Nov 30 19:06:46 mrmoku, yeah :D Nov 30 19:07:06 mrmoku, if is there some option I'd like to activate it. I could add som options in shr-settings for it too. Nov 30 19:07:44 as last multipart sms I sent didn't arrive. I want some kind of info to know if my sms arrive to its destination ;) Nov 30 19:07:49 will check in a bit Nov 30 19:07:54 ok thanks! Nov 30 19:09:00 upgrading xorg still works Nov 30 19:09:30