**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 20 02:59:57 2011
Jan 20 09:45:25 <pespin> gmorning :)
Jan 20 11:17:06 <PaulFertser> Proposal: kick RANJAN in the butt.
Jan 20 11:30:55 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: sounds nice... where to kick and who is RANJAN?
Jan 20 11:35:17 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: he's spamming openmoko community and devel ML with some meaningless messages about ssh and such.
Jan 20 11:35:43 <mrmoku> ah, ok
Jan 20 11:36:13 <PaulFertser> He's apparently from India so we need to find someone there who can actually perform the mentioned action. :)
Jan 20 11:38:01 <lindi-> PaulFertser: well yeah openmoko distros are totally new ground for him since he's used to windows
Jan 20 11:50:50 <PaulFertser> lindi-: apparently he's new to reading as well :/
Jan 20 11:51:02 <PaulFertser> Not the first time he sends totally clueless messages.
Jan 20 11:55:04 <lindi-> PaulFertser: in english at least yes
Jan 20 12:27:22 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: maybe you can help me with this:
Jan 20 12:27:22 <mrmoku> ERROR: "omap2_cm_read_mod_reg" [drivers/hsi/controllers/omap_ssi.ko] undefined!
Jan 20 12:29:30 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: did you have no warnings during module building and depmoding?
Jan 20 12:29:53 <mrmoku> that error is from module building
Jan 20 12:30:18 <mrmoku> WARNING: modpost: Found 2 section mismatch(es).
Jan 20 12:30:34 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: grep the sources for the named symbol then, probably it's not auto-selected due to missing dependency or something.
Jan 20 12:31:12 <mrmoku> ok
Jan 20 12:31:32 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: is it some 2.6.35/2.6.37?
Jan 20 12:32:07 <mrmoku> PaulFertser: is something like make mrproper still needed these days? When switching around between branches?
Jan 20 12:32:20 <PaulFertser> mrmoku: hm, tbh i do not remember needing it.
Jan 20 12:48:07 <playya> mickey|office, is it possible to change the encoding of a SMS?
Jan 20 12:48:27 <playya> i want to send some test messages with different encodings to my pre
Jan 20 13:20:43 <playya> hehe. vodafone send me a sms because i used thisisnotvodafonesapnandwillignoreit in the pre
Jan 20 13:22:52 <antrik> they kindly informed you that you set a wrong APN?... :-)
Jan 20 13:27:02 <playya> yes
Jan 20 13:27:20 <playya> and pointed me to vodafone.de/konfig
Jan 20 13:27:42 <playya> I'm still waiting for the sms for wrong call forwarding
Jan 20 13:28:05 <playya> i used a extra long number to get the length of the field
Jan 20 13:35:44 <lindi-> gena2x: the wathdog is not able to reboot the FR from the resume bug state :)
Jan 20 13:36:03 <lindi-> gena2x: after 42 seconds the phone goes to a loop where I can hear a crack from the speaker about once a second
Jan 20 13:36:43 <gena2x> lindi-: sound like it actually reboot it
Jan 20 13:37:20 <lindi-> gena2x: it tries hard
Jan 20 13:39:38 <gena2x> lindi-: are you sure it loops and not actually reboots?
Jan 20 13:40:44 * gena2x have really hard times to imagine that watchdog can't reset phone
Jan 20 13:41:04 <gena2x> s/phone/cpu/
Jan 20 13:41:42 <gena2x> may be something with power supply then?
Jan 20 13:45:12 <lindi-> gena2x: I'll record it
Jan 20 13:46:34 <playya> hmm. sending Debug.DebugPing to fsogsmd ends in a critical because there's no CUSTOM command registered
Jan 20 13:47:46 <lindi-> gena2x: it's 392 megabytes :)
Jan 20 13:48:27 <gena2x> lindi-: i didn't really mean consumption. and this aborts. can you check if memory bus and memory in good state?
Jan 20 13:48:49 <gena2x> lindi-: including regulators resonsible for power supplu
Jan 20 13:49:29 <gena2x> lindi-: 392 of what?
Jan 20 13:50:09 <playya> no modem registers a CUSTOM command
Jan 20 13:50:23 <gena2x> lindi-: by check i mean write something small into both memory chips and read after that
Jan 20 13:51:46 <gena2x> lindi-: really, only idea why watchdog can't reset system is problem with power supply. and 1 sec sound sound like usual attempt to boot without power, on usb-only.
Jan 20 13:52:25 <gena2x> lindi-: i understand that my guesses really wild :)
Jan 20 13:52:33 <[Rui]> oh wow, lot's of updates to do... gdbus integrated already?
Jan 20 13:52:50 <lindi-> gena2x: 392 megabytes of video :)
Jan 20 13:53:26 <gena2x> lindi-: hehe
Jan 20 13:54:02 <[Rui]> the resume bug state is that state where it doesn't resume and looks like it's powered off?
Jan 20 13:56:14 <lindi-> [Rui]: bug 2309
Jan 20 13:56:23 <lindi-> [Rui]: we have some new information, it's definitely not powered off
Jan 20 14:00:01 <[Rui]> lindi-: no, it definitely isn't powered off, it just looks so (visually) :)
Jan 20 14:00:14 <gena2x> [Rui]: do you have this too?
Jan 20 14:00:23 <lindi-> [Rui]: gena2x:  http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2309#comment:20
Jan 20 14:01:27 <[Rui]> gena2x: it's been happening to me a bit more frequently
Jan 20 14:01:44 <lindi-> [Rui]: hey, you need to report these things :)
Jan 20 14:02:01 <lindi-> I've been hunting this for more than a year
Jan 20 14:02:40 <gena2x> lindi-: sounds really coool :)
Jan 20 14:03:24 <[Rui]> lindi-: it looks completely powered off (except it doesn't turn on). I have to take the battery off in order to have it boot or do anything
Jan 20 14:04:02 <lindi-> [Rui]: do you have time and interest in helping to debug this?
Jan 20 14:04:39 <gena2x> i'll put my phone into rtcwake look
Jan 20 14:04:40 <[Rui]> lindi-: if I can help. as for time, I can't promise anything, this baby is very fussy (I'm on paternity leave). I think I should try to get him to sleep
Jan 20 14:04:52 <gena2x> *loop now and see how long it will last...
Jan 20 14:05:09 <lindi-> gena2x: my phone wakes up every 10 minutes and this occurs maybe once every three weeks
Jan 20 14:05:20 <[Rui]> lindi-: and I was previously trying to hunt WS with gena2x but we haven't had a lot of common online time lately :)
Jan 20 14:05:24 <lindi-> a tight rtcwake loop might not make this occur
Jan 20 14:05:59 <gena2x> let's see
Jan 20 14:06:10 <lindi-> gena2x: it can't be temperature related since it's been in constant normal room temperature for hours
Jan 20 14:07:07 <gena2x> i can put it into fridge or on my server to check temperatures
Jan 20 14:07:09 <gena2x> :)
Jan 20 14:07:33 <gena2x> *check how it behave under different temperature conditions
Jan 20 14:09:19 <lindi-> gena2x: it doesn't seem to mind about winter
Jan 20 14:10:15 <gena2x> ok, anyway my fr is just laying on desk and i have some deals, so it can do tests for me :)
Jan 20 14:10:28 <lindi-> gena2x: it has survived both http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~ttakanen/pics/kasivarsi-2009/  and  http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/retki/iglu/ :)
Jan 20 14:13:11 <[Rui]> lindi-: what do you need?
Jan 20 14:13:47 <lindi-> [Rui]: a few u-boot patches that enable watchdog early in resume
Jan 20 14:14:02 <lindi-> [Rui]: if you could test those on your system we could establish if it's the same bug
Jan 20 14:14:06 <[Rui]> ok
Jan 20 14:23:19 <[Rui]> managed to get him to sleep, no longer 1 char every two seconds or more with my left hand :)
Jan 20 14:23:25 <[Rui]> lindi-: so... which u-boot?
Jan 20 14:23:34 <gena2x> lindi-: pretty extreme and nice photos btw. i never tried to stay at night in wild while it is winter.
Jan 20 14:25:29 <[Rui]> lindi-: ah, so that's how an igloo is built?
Jan 20 14:25:32 <[Rui]> neat
Jan 20 14:26:13 <gena2x> this is some kind of modern tools, they cheating :)
Jan 20 14:26:33 <lindi-> gena2x: at least we are still carrying all the tools with us :)
Jan 20 14:30:49 <PaulFertser> lindi-: great photos. The landscape looks rather similar to russian, btw.
Jan 20 14:36:20 <PaulFertser> lindi-: btw, my FR's battery has only 300mAh of total capacity left. Not sure why, i thought we tried quite hard to prolong it. Not sure if exposure to subzero temperatures could have affected that.
Jan 20 14:48:15 <lindi-> [Rui]: http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/706a118e9cf49654/uboot-706a118e9cf49654_706a118e9cf49654_armel.deb
Jan 20 14:48:32 <lindi-> [Rui]: http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/uboot-706a118e9cf49654_706a118e9cf49654_armel.deb
Jan 20 14:49:11 <playya> PaulFertser, but your screen is still alive?
Jan 20 14:49:19 <PaulFertser> playya: sure, why not?
Jan 20 14:49:25 <lindi-> [Rui]: that should contain the patches I added in /usr/share/doc/uboot-706a118e9cf49654
Jan 20 14:49:41 <playya> freerunner : iphone => 1:0
Jan 20 14:53:54 <playya> PaulFertser, http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/01/13/baby-its-cold-outside-so-your-iphone-exploded/
Jan 20 15:25:00 <gena2x> heh. sound like fr's wsod is better than this
Jan 20 15:28:57 <antrik> PaulFertser: "we tried quite hard to prolong it"... how?
Jan 20 15:35:08 <daniele_athome> morning
Jan 20 15:35:21 <daniele_athome> Weiss, ping
Jan 20 15:35:30 <daniele_athome> ( i'm obsessed with him :D )
Jan 20 15:43:03 <[Rui]> lindi-: hms... not running a debian moko :(
Jan 20 15:43:33 <[Rui]> woke up just now, by the sound of a pranting baby *sigh*
Jan 20 15:43:36 <[Rui]> brb
Jan 20 16:03:35 <Weiss> daniele_athome: I see you, but I'm still conferencing..
Jan 20 16:03:44 <Weiss> (and giving a talk in 2h30..)
Jan 20 16:05:13 <daniele_athome> i see
Jan 20 16:05:26 <daniele_athome> Weiss, we should use an asynchronous mean of communication :)
Jan 20 16:05:30 <daniele_athome> like e-mail
Jan 20 16:06:59 <daniele_athome> s/like/such as/
Jan 20 16:06:59 <apt> daniele_athome meant: such as e-mail
Jan 20 16:15:26 <lindi-> [Rui]: just extract the uboot image with "ar x *.deb && tar xzf control.tar.gz"
Jan 20 16:21:14 <PaulFertser> antrik: by writing proper drivers for the charger chip (pcf50633). 
Jan 20 16:24:17 <PaulFertser> playya: loosy article tbh
Jan 20 16:28:37 <antrik> ah
Jan 20 16:29:13 <[Rui]> lindi-: ok, then I can simply flash it to the proper partition, right?
Jan 20 16:30:10 <lindi-> [Rui]: yes
Jan 20 16:30:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> gena2x, ah WSOD means white snow of death, for the iphone?
Jan 20 16:31:01 <GNUtoo|laptop> anyway usually the electronic devices have operating conditions written in the manual
Jan 20 16:31:13 <GNUtoo|laptop> such as the temperature range
Jan 20 16:31:24 <GNUtoo|laptop> but maybe they do not do paper manual anymore?
Jan 20 16:34:43 <[Rui]> lindi-: done. will boot now
Jan 20 16:34:47 <gena2x> if i assume that my fr had a manual, if should be green piece of paper with something about open source on it.
Jan 20 16:34:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes
Jan 20 16:35:10 <GNUtoo|laptop> or something that points to the wiki
Jan 20 16:36:02 <[Rui]> lindi-: ah shit, I have my shr on sd
Jan 20 16:36:55 <lindi-> [Rui]: should not be a problem?
Jan 20 16:37:16 <[Rui]> lindi-: it's trying to boot a non working qtmoko test I have on nand
Jan 20 16:37:28 <[Rui]> lindi-: and I don't have fat+ext2 on my µ-sd, just ext2
Jan 20 16:37:38 <lindi-> [Rui]: how did you configure u-boot?
Jan 20 16:38:14 <[Rui]> lindi-: it has a config gena2x gave me so we could test
Jan 20 16:39:02 <[Rui]> lindi-: http://bsdmn.com/openmoko/glamo_rui/s2/u-boot_env.in_rui IIRC
Jan 20 16:44:50 <lindi-> [Rui]: ".in_rui"?
Jan 20 16:49:26 <[Rui]> lindi-: as I said, tests I was doing with gena2x  :)
Jan 20 16:49:49 <lindi-> [Rui]: yeah but that configuration needs to be run through cpp?
Jan 20 16:50:08 <[Rui]> lindi-: it's a binary file, so gena2x gave me a blob ;)
Jan 20 16:50:31 <lindi-> weird name for binary :)
Jan 20 16:51:07 <[Rui]> was a test we were doing, IIRC we were trying to find out where qtmoko30 was
Jan 20 16:52:52 <gena2x> lindi-: just read it with less
Jan 20 16:53:10 <gena2x> lindi-: u know u-boot 'binary' files, i am sure
Jan 20 16:53:13 <lindi-> yeah looks like binary
Jan 20 16:53:22 <lindi-> gena2x: I was just wondering about the name
Jan 20 16:53:41 <gena2x> usually it just u-boot_env.in
Jan 20 16:54:25 <gena2x> i am too lazy to move cursor in mc to middle to file name while editing name. and anyway, extesions are evil
Jan 20 16:54:36 <gena2x> s/e to/o of/
Jan 20 16:54:36 <apt> gena2x meant: i am too lazy to move cursor in mc to middlo of file name while editing name. and anyway, extesions are evil
Jan 20 16:54:53 <[Rui]> gena2x: the beggining is human readable, but there's lots of binary data in there
Jan 20 16:55:07 <antrik> PaulFertser: well, keep in mind that Li-Ion batteries detoriate over time even when properly charged -- depending on usage of course (especially deep discharge cycles and peak current); but even when unused...
Jan 20 16:55:25 <gena2x> [Rui]: not really, only text and crc
Jan 20 16:55:26 <PaulFertser> antrik: :)
Jan 20 16:55:45 <PaulFertser> antrik: you know i took part in writing Battery Q&A document ;) 
Jan 20 16:55:47 <[Rui]> gena2x: -rw-rw-r--.  1 rms rms 256K Dez 26 19:02 u-boot_env.in_rui
Jan 20 16:55:52 <[Rui]> 256k of crc?
Jan 20 16:55:52 <gena2x> hey guys, i thought you can charge li-ion in any way
Jan 20 16:56:03 <lindi-> [Rui]: 256k of padding
Jan 20 16:56:04 <gena2x> just not discharge too much
Jan 20 16:56:10 <[Rui]> ok
Jan 20 16:56:23 <antrik> PaulFertser: don't remember having read it... URL?
Jan 20 16:56:25 <gena2x> [Rui]: to fit partition size.
Jan 20 16:56:35 <PaulFertser> antrik: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers
Jan 20 16:56:38 <[Rui]> oh
Jan 20 16:57:04 <[Rui]> anyway, how can I fix this u-boot so it'll boot my sd card as well'
Jan 20 16:57:05 <[Rui]> ?
Jan 20 16:57:36 <gena2x> [Rui]: get config source
Jan 20 16:57:43 <[Rui]> otherwise I can't help anymore WRT #2309
Jan 20 16:57:53 <gena2x> [Rui]: http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/uboot/config/environment.in
Jan 20 16:58:01 <[Rui]> gena2x: ok
Jan 20 16:58:23 <gena2x> [Rui]: edit it so it should find proper image name on proper boot partition
Jan 20 16:59:05 <gena2x> [Rui]: then run tools like described here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x#How_to_setup
Jan 20 16:59:27 <gena2x> (including flashing config)
Jan 20 16:59:39 <gena2x> [Rui]: and it should work
Jan 20 17:00:10 <PaulFertser> gena2x: 235  CYCT Cycle Count Total High - Low Byte
Jan 20 17:01:02 <gena2x> PaulFertser: can you describe in bit more detail? you mean less cycles - better?
Jan 20 17:01:45 <PaulFertser> gena2x: hm, i'm not sure, need to reread the datasheet. I mean my bq27k reports "only" 235 cycles, on idea if that's enough to justify the capacity drop.
Jan 20 17:03:19 <morphis> heyho
Jan 20 17:04:11 <PaulFertser> gena2x: "each count indicates a cumulative discharge equal to Design Capacity"
Jan 20 17:05:35 <PaulFertser> Can anybody here provide data about his battery please? I'm interested in LMD and CYCT only.
Jan 20 17:05:42 <antrik> PaulFertser: this document isn't very specific though regarding what kills battery life...
Jan 20 17:06:07 <PaulFertser> antrik: keeping fully charged and heating kills it.
Jan 20 17:06:11 <gena2x> PaulFertser: i forgot how to see it, if you provide link to script to het that data
Jan 20 17:06:16 <gena2x> *get
Jan 20 17:06:18 <PaulFertser> gena2x: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/bq27k-detail
Jan 20 17:08:38 <gena2x> 0x29 - 0x28:   297  CYCL Cycle Count Since Learning Cycle High-Low Byte  Cycles       R
Jan 20 17:08:38 <gena2x> 0x2B - 0x2A: 37988  CYCT Cycle Count Total High - Low Byte               Cycles       R
Jan 20 17:09:17 <gena2x> 0x13 - 0x12: 10770   LMD Last Measured Discharge High - Low Byte      3.57 µVh (1)    R
Jan 20 17:09:23 <[Rui]> gena2x: will have to study that :|
Jan 20 17:09:44 <gena2x> [Rui]: just ask
Jan 20 17:10:21 <[Rui]> gena2x: can't do that now. I have to prepare some stuff to go out for groceries with wife and baby :(
Jan 20 17:10:31 <[Rui]> and baby's being fussy again... oh well... bbl
Jan 20 17:10:32 <PaulFertser> gena2x: 37988 CYCT? :-O
Jan 20 17:10:59 <PaulFertser> gena2x: 1922 mAh? 
Jan 20 17:11:07 <PaulFertser> gena2x: nah, that doesn't look right. :)
Jan 20 17:11:55 <gena2x> [Rui]: probably you should change MMC_NUM and root=/dev/mmcblk0p2, #define SD_KERNEL uImage.bin
Jan 20 17:12:16 <gena2x> [Rui]: to something like /boot/uImage.bin if you have it in /boot
Jan 20 17:12:20 <gena2x> [Rui]: and that's all
Jan 20 17:12:41 <gena2x> PaulFertser: no idea, it is thing i got with that script
Jan 20 17:12:52 <gena2x> PaulFertser: i only had to change patch in sysfs
Jan 20 17:13:00 <gena2x> PaulFertser: cause original were not found
Jan 20 17:13:23 <gena2x> i did neo:/tmp# find /sys/|grep hdq|grep -w dump
Jan 20 17:13:33 <gena2x>  /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/hdq/hdq/dump
Jan 20 17:13:56 <gena2x> let me check again, may be i missed something changing path....
Jan 20 17:14:24 <gena2x> no, i think it's hard to miss something
Jan 20 17:14:36 <PaulFertser> gena2x: hm, the format might have changed slightly, but that's unlikely, that's just 16 hex numbers in 8 raws: 00 40 00 00 ...
Jan 20 17:15:03 <gena2x> yeah, look like it is
Jan 20 17:15:13 <gena2x> may be i can just find hex value for you?
Jan 20 17:15:35 <gena2x> http://paste.debian.net/105173/
Jan 20 17:15:41 <gena2x> all of them
Jan 20 17:16:08 <gena2x> my battery gone crazy? :)
Jan 20 17:16:20 <gena2x> uname -r 2.6.34.7-v31 btw
Jan 20 17:17:39 <gena2x> yeah, other values look strange, really
Jan 20 17:18:57 <gena2x> ah, may be i should remove usb plug before running this?
Jan 20 17:19:37 <PaulFertser> gena2x: no
Jan 20 17:19:45 <PaulFertser> gena2x: damn sick. Probably DocScrutinizer51 has an idea.
Jan 20 17:20:48 <gena2x> so it should be something with driver? or bootloader?
Jan 20 17:21:15 <PaulFertser> gena2x: probably hdq doesn't work as expected with the new kernel, who knows.
Jan 20 17:21:35 <PaulFertser> gena2x: bootloader is unlikely to have any effect on this, every time you do dump, it reads out all the data from the chip.
Jan 20 17:23:11 <gena2x> PaulFertser: ok, consider me as bad tester atm :)
Jan 20 17:23:19 <PaulFertser> gena2x: np, thanks for the try.
Jan 20 17:29:50 <gena2x> lindi-: btw, suspend testing (resume, rtcwake in 15s, immidiate suspend): 2 suspend ok -> WSOD -> 19 suspend ok -> WSOD -> 325 suspend ok -> battery testing -> continue
Jan 20 17:30:16 <gena2x> lindi-: WSODs are not full death, it is still pingable
Jan 20 17:31:58 <lindi-> gena2x: I don
Jan 20 17:32:02 <lindi-> gena2x: I don't get WSOD
Jan 20 17:33:33 <gena2x> lindi-: it's a bit strange here too. 2 wsods in row, then  all ok. starnge.
Jan 20 18:05:36 <CIA-70> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rc78993c745c4 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (channel.vala data.vala mediators.vala unsolicited.vala): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: implement handling of sim urc messages
Jan 20 18:32:57 <antrik> how is the cycle count determined?
Jan 20 18:36:20 <lindi-> antrik: what cycle count?
Jan 20 18:39:51 <antrik> lindi-: battery
Jan 20 18:40:23 <lindi-> antrik: i don't think that software is free
Jan 20 18:40:39 <lindi-> antrik: there's a chip in the battery that does it
Jan 20 18:41:35 <antrik> that doesn't invalidate my question though :-)
Jan 20 18:45:55 <PaulFertser> antrik: it's said that the cycle count is <discharge sum>/<nominal capacity>
Jan 20 18:54:36 <antrik> then 300 cycles should indeed not be terribly much... unless you often discharge more or less fully
Jan 20 18:56:16 <antrik> BTW, the script also gives some crazy numbers here
Jan 20 18:56:59 <antrik> (shr-u as of november or so, 2.6.34.7)
Jan 20 19:00:24 <PaulFertser> 2.6.29 here :P
Jan 20 19:01:11 <antrik> where did you find such an ancient kernel?... ;-)
Jan 20 19:02:11 <PaulFertser> antrik: my attic
Jan 20 19:19:13 <pespin> mrmoku, ping :)
Jan 20 19:48:33 <mrmoku> pespin: pong
Jan 20 19:50:53 <pespin> mrmoku, hi! I thought we could give some more life to the blog. What do you think if we join some info about stuff done in the week in some wiki page and then I could write a weekly entry explaining some of the progress :)
Jan 20 19:51:05 <pespin> do you like the idea?
Jan 20 19:51:10 <mrmoku> yup
Jan 20 19:51:20 <pespin> I'm now on holidays so I have some time for it :)
Jan 20 19:51:29 <mrmoku> that I like even more :D
Jan 20 19:51:40 * mrmoku has not much time for that
Jan 20 19:53:40 <pespin> mrmoku, what do I need to do to get access to the blog?
Jan 20 19:55:41 <mrmoku> pespin: register?
Jan 20 19:56:28 <mrmoku> pespin: when you klick on Sign in... there will be a link to sign up
Jan 20 19:56:59 <pespin> mrmoku, ok I'll do it now, I'm writting stuff on the wiki :)
Jan 20 20:06:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi mrmoku 
Jan 20 20:06:08 <GNUtoo|laptop> any progress?
Jan 20 20:06:32 <pespin> mrmoku, ok I'm registered now. Do I need to be given write access by someone?
Jan 20 20:12:48 <mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: no :/
Jan 20 20:13:03 <mrmoku> pespin: I have no idea
Jan 20 20:13:12 <mrmoku> pespin: let me check what kind of access I have
Jan 20 20:13:43 <pespin> ok :)
Jan 20 20:13:58 <pespin> (user "pespin" if you n eed to change something)
Jan 20 20:16:10 <mrmoku> pespin: I fear I have no administration rights whatever
Jan 20 20:16:26 <mrmoku> at least I have no link to do some kind of administration
Jan 20 20:27:22 <pespin> mrmoku, /me neither :P
Jan 20 20:29:34 <mrmoku> pespin: no rights to post either?
Jan 20 20:30:50 <pespin> mrmoku, I can't see any place/button to go somewhere I can write
Jan 20 20:33:54 <mrmoku> hmm
Jan 20 20:37:50 <pespin> hmm I need to go. I'll return late. I'll ask some other people with blog access if they can give me access, if you don't find the way :)
Jan 20 20:40:16 <mrmoku> pespin|away: ok
Jan 20 20:46:59 <mrmoku> pespin|away: ahh, found the trick :)
Jan 20 20:48:07 <mrmoku> pespin|away: and yes, you have 'create blog' rights now
Jan 20 20:48:38 <mrmoku> pespin|away: you have to login via: http://blog.shr-project.org/cgi-bin/mt/mt.cgi
Jan 20 21:09:42 <ben_t> :-(
Jan 20 21:21:40 <max_posedon> \
Jan 20 21:21:58 <max_posedon> \\\'
Jan 20 21:22:06 <max_posedon> sorry
Jan 20 21:36:32 <ben_t> :-)
Jan 20 22:21:36 <zub> evening
Jan 20 22:22:51 <zub> dbus-hlid needs a SRCREV bump... should I send a patch to the ML, or should it better left to some of the more knowledgable ppl around here?
Jan 20 22:23:51 <zub> but the change looks simple enough, just configure.ac ~ shouldn't break anything; in fact w/o the bump dbus-hlid doesn't compile for me
Jan 20 22:34:00 <mickey|zzZZzz> zub: bumped.
Jan 20 22:35:56 <zub> and patch sent :)
Jan 20 22:35:59 <zub> race condition
Jan 20 22:36:02 <zub> anyway thanks
Jan 20 23:20:25 <pespin> mrmoku, uhmm I'm still not able to find any page to write entries (and I'm logged in)
Jan 20 23:21:21 <mickey|zzZZzz> mrmoku: i wonder whether we should just take the latest version of gisi and write libisi in vala
Jan 20 23:21:41 <mickey|zzZZzz> mrmoku: the boiler-plate C code in libisi looks boring
Jan 21 00:06:11 <pespin> mrmoku, when I login I'm not redirected to the dashboard, but to a page which I can change some of my profile settings (name, password, webpage)
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