**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 26 02:59:57 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 26 04:23:39 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 26 06:04:15 2011 Jan 26 06:56:19 DocScrutinizer: hey :) Jan 26 06:59:17 DocScrutinizer: he has another interesting post where he says that it was SFLC that made Cisco go away from free software solutions. He claims SFLC required to release the 5-year old toolchain that nobody actually needed (cisco must have released it but actually it got it from broadcom in binary-only form). Jan 26 07:00:00 As the result, Cisco had considerable losses and was threatened while the assholes from broadcrap weren't affected. Jan 26 07:00:53 Of course cisco should have required sources from broadcrap in the first place and not base any development on something they can't legally do. But alas. Jan 26 07:53:04 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r10ad820347f5 10/msmcommd/src/modemcontrol.vala: msmcommd: stop modem controller when modem transport hangs up Jan 26 08:09:06 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * ra5aec062cf36 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (channel.vala plugin.vala): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: move data channel initialization to channel class Jan 26 08:22:31 <[Rui]> PaulFertser: «it was SFLC that made Cisco go away from free software solutions» ? ha! They never wanted Free Software solutions, they wanted a gratis (for them) stack of software they could proprieterize. Jan 26 08:22:57 heyho Jan 26 08:23:06 <[Rui]> PaulFertser: *now* they're doing it again with their cloud solutions, let's see if they have learned to respect other's software licenses as they expect people to respect theirs :) Jan 26 08:23:24 <[Rui]> morphis: hpwdy! Jan 26 08:23:27 <[Rui]> howdy Jan 26 08:23:30 <[Rui]> brb Jan 26 08:24:29 moin morphis Jan 26 08:39:09 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r89587beae4c8 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/channel.vala: Jan 26 08:39:09 freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: remove data channel registration ... Jan 26 08:39:09 freesmartphone.org: Hmpf ... thing about anything before you are going to implement it before you see Jan 26 09:12:59 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r0a9218676005 10/fsogsmd/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: add lowlevel plugin for palmpre machine Jan 26 11:27:02 mrmoku, http://cgit.pingu.fi/xf86-video-omapfb/commit/?id=6fd9caf9fd4a5b6105c45198eb6fdd98c451db14 Jan 26 11:27:07 we should try again Jan 26 11:27:58 maybe Jan 26 11:28:00 ah no Jan 26 11:28:05 it's from 2010 Jan 26 11:34:23 GNUtoo|laptop: we should check if we have that though Jan 26 11:35:07 we should Jan 26 11:35:11 koen bumped PR Jan 26 11:35:22 6fd9caf9fd4a5b6105c45198eb6fdd98c451db14 Jan 26 11:35:32 in xf86-video-omapfb Jan 26 11:37:12 so we didn't have it Jan 26 11:49:12 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Jan 26 11:49:30 I bet it doesn't rotate Jan 26 11:49:36 (see README) Jan 26 11:49:38 but.... Jan 26 11:49:43 it may be do something good Jan 26 11:57:00 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/gnutoo/embedded/oe/oetmps/nokia900/sysroots/armv7a-oe-linux-gnueabi/shlibs/libfsoresource.list' Jan 26 11:57:11 what package contains that? Jan 26 11:57:32 so Jan 26 12:04:50 ok cleaned Jan 26 12:10:21 GNUtoo|laptop: any success with barebox? Jan 26 12:10:29 ERROR: Function 'staging_packager' failed (see /dev/null for further information) Jan 26 12:10:29 no Jan 26 12:10:41 I don't know if it worked Jan 26 12:10:49 I lack serial or any feedback means Jan 26 12:11:28 ah ok Jan 26 12:11:43 and your Pre is on the way to you? Jan 26 12:12:02 ? Jan 26 12:12:08 no Jan 26 12:12:15 I must talk to mickey Jan 26 12:12:38 and it's not a good idea to go to me Jan 26 12:12:44 me going to the pre is better(fosdem) Jan 26 12:16:19 ah ok :) Jan 26 12:16:28 but I hope you finally get one Jan 26 12:19:35 hm evtl. könnte man das auch gut als fsodeviced-Plugin implementieren Jan 26 12:21:09 mickey|office: ping Jan 26 12:21:14 yo Jan 26 12:21:24 upps that was the wrong channel for speaking german ... Jan 26 12:21:26 anyway Jan 26 12:21:41 mickey|office: I talked with HeinervdmWork about getting bluetooth running on the palmpre Jan 26 12:21:46 you know hciattach? Jan 26 12:22:10 used it a couple of times, yea Jan 26 12:22:25 and you know how it works? Jan 26 12:22:30 no Jan 26 12:22:35 http://pastebin.com/DMSLCuwh Jan 26 12:22:47 if you have read this Jan 26 12:22:58 we need to do the same for bt on the palmpre Jan 26 12:23:08 but the difference is that we don't have std. uart Jan 26 12:23:21 instead we have the same hsuart as we have with the modem Jan 26 12:23:42 so my idea is, implement the same what hciattach does in a fsodeviced-plugin Jan 26 12:23:49 but only for the palmpre with the hsuart Jan 26 12:23:50 sound reasonable Jan 26 12:24:06 open + some ioctls + ppoll/select Jan 26 12:24:15 + sysfs Jan 26 12:24:26 ok Jan 26 12:25:27 good Jan 26 12:25:50 HeinervdmWork: ok, we do it as fsodeviced plugin Jan 26 12:26:08 morphis_: ok Jan 26 12:26:35 mickey|office, vala gets stricter. I need to get the correct compabilty check for async delegates Jan 26 12:26:59 HeinervdmWork: so I should implement the code and you test it? Jan 26 12:27:14 s/so I should/so should I/ Jan 26 12:27:15 morphis_ meant: HeinervdmWork: so should I implement the code and you test it? Jan 26 12:28:03 playya: ok... there's no problem with that taking a while it's just that we could save dozens of lambdas when we have that :) Jan 26 12:28:12 [same for the signal handlers] Jan 26 12:28:18 ok Jan 26 12:28:27 first of all: signal handler Jan 26 12:29:45 and i have a new bug with async methods :/ Jan 26 12:31:06 hmm, pity juergbi is not so much interested in that, otherwise i figure he'd help more :) Jan 26 12:33:17 btw. as you are talking about vala Jan 26 12:33:21 what about generators? Jan 26 12:33:37 are they implement or planed? Jan 26 12:33:46 mickey|office, if theModem.createAtCommand throw an error instead of assert if it cannot lookup a command? Jan 26 12:34:06 morphis_, iirc they are on the TODO list Jan 26 12:34:20 hm k Jan 26 12:35:53 playya: yes, we can do this. i did it for createMediator as well a couple of weeks ago Jan 26 12:36:21 so atCommand needs to throw an error and we need to check that all callers either handle the error or propagate it Jan 26 12:36:26 what you boys thinking about a fsocon/fsoshrudcon this year? Jan 26 12:36:38 might be possible Jan 26 12:36:46 should be possible Jan 26 12:36:52 we need one for sure Jan 26 12:37:05 we should find someone organizing this very early Jan 26 12:37:11 hehe, yeah Jan 26 12:37:13 that's the main problem Jan 26 12:37:18 someone focused needs to take the wheel Jan 26 12:37:24 then the rest will follow Jan 26 12:37:57 from my side it either needs to be before may or several months afterwards Jan 26 12:38:07 may - juli i can't leave home Jan 26 12:38:21 mickey|office: hehe Jan 26 12:38:23 :) Jan 26 12:39:30 morphis_: we can try this, but i can test only in the evenings Jan 26 12:40:18 HeinervdmWork: no problem Jan 26 12:40:30 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rc73a050e19a9 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/palmpre_quirks/powercontrol.vala: fsodeviced: palmpre_quirks: start with bluetooth powercontrol Jan 26 12:40:46 HeinervdmWork: so basic stuff is there Jan 26 12:41:02 everything else will come today or tomorrow Jan 26 12:48:35 morphis_: must be possible :) Jan 26 12:49:40 first question would be location... though I think the majority is in favour of Linux Hotel anyway Jan 26 12:56:20 it's not around the corner for me Jan 26 12:56:24 but it's a question of alternatives Jan 26 13:05:24 mickey|office, hi Jan 26 13:09:27 mickey|office: for me neither :P Jan 26 13:12:34 hi GNUtoo|laptop Jan 26 13:12:37 mrmoku: *nod* Jan 26 13:26:20 I'll eat,bbl Jan 26 13:35:10 ~bon appetit Jan 26 13:35:10 bon appetit is, like, smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito. Buen apetito Bom Apetite. buen apetito Smaklig måltid!. Hyvää ruokahalua. Bo Proveito Mahlzeit! Jan 26 13:53:49 mickey|office: any problem with adding fsotransport as dependency to fsodeviced? Jan 26 14:03:25 mickey|office, and how should we pass the SMS service number to fso.SMS ? Jan 26 14:03:55 morphis_, read my PDU format message yesterday? Jan 26 14:04:17 playya: no Jan 26 14:04:33 ah, I got it Jan 26 14:05:15 http://pastebin.com/6gAtSXW4 Jan 26 14:05:18 ah. OK Jan 26 14:07:34 back Jan 26 14:07:46 thanks Jan 26 14:11:15 mickey|office, can I PM you for continuing last time discussion? Jan 26 14:24:57 mrmoku, what's the status? any progress? Jan 26 14:25:12 I think we should finish 2.6.37-dvfs kenrel Jan 26 14:25:20 or I should at least Jan 26 14:25:54 GNUtoo|laptop: my status is water up to the nose... dayworkwise :P Jan 26 14:26:00 ok Jan 26 14:26:07 that will change tomorrow afternoon though :-) Jan 26 14:26:12 ok nice Jan 26 14:26:26 water will sink down to the shoulders at least Jan 26 14:46:52 morphis_: no problem (fsotransport) Jan 26 14:47:01 mickey|office: ok Jan 26 14:47:07 morphis_: but please only link the plugins that need it to it Jan 26 14:48:26 mickey|office: jep Jan 26 14:48:27 p Jan 26 15:25:26 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r02e90ee9f4e1 10/fsodeviced/ (configure.ac src/plugins/palmpre_quirks/Makefile.am): Jan 26 15:25:26 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: add libfsotransport as dependency Jan 26 15:25:26 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Jan 26 15:33:29 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * r82b5c6e58b6c 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/utilities.vala: libfsobasics: Add Async.sleep_async method Jan 26 15:33:30 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * r2424e5b07d6c 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/utilities.vala: Jan 26 15:33:30 freesmartphone.org: libfsobasics: Add copyData method Jan 26 15:33:30 freesmartphone.org: This method checks the sizes of all buffers and chooses the smallest Jan 26 16:32:52 mrmoku, I've a new kernel Jan 26 16:32:55 with all the patch Jan 26 16:32:57 untested Jan 26 16:33:03 all but the gpu Jan 26 16:33:05 that is useless Jan 26 16:33:16 and the defconfig Jan 26 16:38:11 making make config while compiling rmi synaptics touchscreen poped up Jan 26 16:38:13 wow Jan 26 16:38:21 maybe I'll try it under htcdream Jan 26 16:39:05 let's see if it compiles Jan 26 17:17:58 GNUtoo|laptop, I've added FSO CPU resource support to enjoy. I'll ask in #edevelop for patch inclusion in a while Jan 26 17:18:27 ok nice Jan 26 17:28:39 mickey|bbl, : 2000-01-02T03:34:43.781739Z [DEBUG] TiCalypsoUnsolicitedResponseHandler : Dispatching AT unsolicited '+CREG', '2' Jan 26 17:28:39 mickey|bbl 2000-01-02T03:34:54.657107Z [ERROR] fsogsmd : GLib : gmem.c:239: failed to allocate 4294967295 bytes Jan 26 17:32:24 ok. it's not CREG's fault Jan 26 17:32:46 integer overflows? Jan 26 17:34:13 yes Jan 26 18:21:14 GNUtoo|laptop, applied in http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/56308/trunk Jan 26 18:21:24 ok nice Jan 26 18:21:31 currently I'm busy with the kenrel Jan 26 18:21:34 so ping me later Jan 26 18:21:56 you'll need to add --enable-fso to enjoy_svn.bb EXTRA_OECONF too Jan 26 18:23:14 ok Jan 26 19:28:10 mtdoops is *very* usefull Jan 26 19:52:55 is there an easy way to find out what "ioctl(5, 0x80086804, 0x9eaafabc)" is doing? i.e. greping the kernel for sth? Jan 26 19:54:30 Heinervdm: ls -l /proc/$pid/fd/5 Jan 26 19:54:46 5 is /dev/btuart Jan 26 19:55:02 it's the bluetoothdevice of the palm pre Jan 26 19:55:50 Heinervdm: find|grep btuart Jan 26 19:55:56 editor ./drivers/bluetooth/btuart_cs.c Jan 26 19:56:22 Heinervdm: what does the ioctl return? Jan 26 19:56:28 0 Jan 26 20:08:25 hmm, it seems that the bluetooth module used in the palm pre is the same as in the n900 Jan 26 20:08:42 the bluetooth patches are from nokia Jan 26 20:10:04 ok Jan 26 20:10:12 * GNUtoo|laptop finishes the kenrel before pushing Jan 26 20:10:23 thanks mtdoops Jan 26 20:25:16 Heinervdm, were you the one working on phoneui + calendar? Jan 26 20:25:27 pespin: yes Jan 26 20:25:44 Heinervdm, in which status is it atm? Jan 26 20:26:11 it's ideling Jan 26 20:26:23 because there was a problem with the calendar widget Jan 26 20:27:09 later i tried it with a newer EFL version and then the same code crashed Jan 26 20:27:17 but i haven't looked why Jan 26 20:27:33 my work is in a branch at shr-git Jan 26 20:27:34 I just installed a caldav server and I was asking myself if there was some caldav client I could use in SHR Jan 26 20:27:56 i was still at the gui Jan 26 20:28:06 and then it would be a opimd client Jan 26 20:28:42 Heinervdm, so there's still no opimd specification for using caldav? Jan 26 20:29:10 pespin: as we droped the backends there it can' Jan 26 20:29:15 t use caldav Jan 26 20:29:20 one has to sync Jan 26 20:29:30 and for that we need sth like fsosyncd Jan 26 20:29:49 hmm ok Jan 26 20:30:05 that's what leviathan was working on I think Jan 26 20:30:10 at least specification Jan 26 20:51:40 Heinervdm: Hello, ffmpeg does not build since several days, http://norman-schleicher.de/hudson/job/shr-unstable-image-clean-build/148/console is there a workaround ? Jan 26 20:53:11 nschle85: no idea, i haven't build unstable for a long time. i'm building testing only Jan 26 20:53:53 Heinervdm: how often will testing be updated ? Jan 26 20:54:17 nschle85: not very often Jan 26 20:54:58 i'm trying to stabalize it and after that just update on request if it's possible Jan 26 20:55:27 and then build the next one in the middle of the year Jan 26 20:56:54 Heinervdm: ok Jan 26 20:57:47 Heinervdm: who may help me for compiling issue Jan 26 20:57:48 ? Jan 26 20:58:02 nschle85: JaMa|Off or mrmoku Jan 26 20:58:49 mrmoku: hello, ffmpeg does not build since several days, http://norman-schleicher.de/hudson/job/shr-unstable-image-clean-build/148/console is there a workaround ? Jan 26 21:00:27 nschle85: it's probably because of this: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/recipes/ffmpeg?id=fb36a895a080c235bf797264cfcd04bffa820e1b Jan 26 21:00:49 and in the upstream situation i don't know if it's buildable Jan 26 21:01:07 they kicked the main developer out Jan 26 21:03:12 Heinervdm: i know , i thing they moved the sources in a new repository Jan 26 21:04:05 but perhaps they updated sth wich is unbuildable Jan 26 21:07:02 Heinervdm: i found that the problem is known: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/41361 Jan 26 21:08:17 ah, so it's probably a binutils bug Jan 26 21:16:46 can this: ioctl(5, 0x80086804, 0x9ec77abc) be this: #define HSUART_IOCTL_GET_UARTMODE _IOR('h', 0x04, struct hsuart_mode ) ? Jan 26 21:18:35 'h' is 0x68 indeed Jan 26 21:19:17 ok Jan 26 21:20:13 then i have to find out what's in the 2 int's Jan 26 21:20:33 first one should be easy it's speed Jan 26 21:21:16 but 40647 is a strange speed Jan 26 21:28:35 morphis_: 6804 is HSUART_IOCTL_GET_UARTMODE and 6805 is HSUART_IOCTL_SET_UARTMODE from Jan 26 21:29:07 jupp, as I said :) Jan 26 21:29:30 morphis_: and the value is: struct hsuart_mode {int speed; int flags;} Jan 26 21:29:36 right Jan 26 21:29:47 thats what we already using in the HsuartTransport Jan 26 21:30:53 ok Jan 26 21:44:24 HeinervdmOff, hi Jan 26 21:44:31 I know how to grep for ioctl Jan 26 21:44:40 ah lindi- already answered Jan 26 22:11:24 mrmoku, ping Jan 26 22:34:37 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * r149f195d8fbd 10/libmsmcomm/msmcomm/ (Makefile.am msmcomm-2.0.deps): libmsmcomm: add msmcomm-2.0.deps Jan 26 22:34:38 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * r2f12c8d1f79f 10/libmsmcomm/msmcomm/messageutil.vala: libmsmcomm: Add encode/decode binary/BCD Jan 26 22:34:41 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * r7893c677ec5e 10/libmsmcomm/ (6 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) Jan 26 22:34:41 freesmartphone.org: Revert "libmsmcomm: Allow definition of group id and message" Jan 26 22:34:41 freesmartphone.org: This reverts commit 4e5ab9619727c5960135a7b1c09a0453fa318fd5. Jan 26 22:34:41 freesmartphone.org: Conflicts: Jan 26 22:34:42 freesmartphone.org: libmsmcomm/msmcomm/structures.h Jan 26 22:34:42 freesmartphone.org: libmsmcomm/specs/msmcomm.sdef Jan 26 22:34:43 freesmartphone.org: libmsmcomm/specs/structures/state.xml Jan 26 22:34:44 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * rc437af71c9e8 10/libmsmcomm/msmcomm/messagetype.vala: libmsmcomm: Add some of the SMS types to MessageType Jan 26 22:34:44 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * rf0690abd9178 10/libmsmcomm/specs/structures/sms.xml: libmsmcomm: specs: remove duplicate definition Jan 26 22:34:45 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * r90adf93b38ce 10/libmsmcomm/ (msmcomm/structures.h specs/msmcomm.sdef vapi/structures.vapi): libmsmcomm: regen Jan 26 22:34:48 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * r9f6aac987115 10/libmsmcomm/tools/ (generate-structures-c.py generate-structures-vala.py): Jan 26 22:34:49 freesmartphone.org: libmsmcomm: tools: Add struct CTORs Jan 26 22:34:49 freesmartphone.org: These init functions are used to set the length fields to the correct Jan 26 22:34:49 freesmartphone.org: value Jan 26 22:34:51 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * r507a9d4e8512 10/libmsmcomm/specs/structures/sms.xml: libmsmcomm: specs: Add some more SMS messages Jan 26 22:34:52 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * rbc22f25145cd 10/libmsmcomm/tools/ (generate-structures-c.py generate-structures-vala.py): libmsmcomm: tools: readd "lost in merge" code Jan 26 22:34:54 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07msmcomm * r2046225bb153 10/libmsmcomm/msmcomm/ (smsmessage.vala smsmessagegroup.vala): libmsmcomm: Add basic sms messages Jan 26 23:06:17 wow Jan 26 23:06:20 SMS Jan 26 23:14:43 sms? for a smartphone? surely you jest! Jan 26 23:47:04 pipe, it's for the palm pre Jan 26 23:47:17 the modem protocol was reverse engineered Jan 26 23:47:31 SMS was lacking for a very long time... Jan 27 00:16:44 ciao....... sto cercando un manuale lisp, meglio commonlisp per clips in ITA... Jan 27 00:23:54 ciao....... sto cercando un manuale lisp, meglio commonlisp per clips in ITA... Jan 27 00:40:09 i i i i i i i ooooo o ooooooo ooooo ooooo Jan 27 00:40:09 I I I I I I I 8 8 8 8 8 o 8 8 Jan 27 00:40:09 I \ `+' / I 8 8 8 8 8 8 Jan 27 00:40:09 \ `-+-' / 8 8 8 ooooo 8oooo Jan 27 00:40:09 `-__|__-' 8 8 8 8 8 Jan 27 00:40:10 | 8 o 8 8 o 8 8 Jan 27 00:40:12 ------+------ ooooo 8oooooo ooo8ooo ooooo 8 Jan 27 00:40:30 Welcome to GNU CLISP 2.48 (2009-07-28) Jan 27 00:40:34 bello..... Jan 27 00:41:09 peccato che non lo sappia far funzionare senza una guida in italiano... Jan 27 00:41:20 perchè sono ignorante????? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 27 02:59:57 2011