**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 16 02:59:57 2011 Feb 16 07:12:37 The minimal modification is apparently not enough, i miss some other detail, will probably try another way: fully preparing the message on my own. Feb 16 07:21:45 moin Feb 16 10:47:00 mrmoku: fyi: tests/shr-unstable has now image+feed with new gcc, glib-2.28.0 and all fso recipes rebuilt with new vala (same version, so needs -force-reinstall or reflash new image to test) Feb 16 10:58:22 JaMa: ok, will flash the image on my FR then Feb 16 12:46:39 mrmoku: btw do you have updated linux-nokia900 somewhere? Feb 16 12:49:01 JaMa: I always change just the branch, srcrev and defconfig Feb 16 12:49:19 and the result is not yet something I'd like to commit :-/ Feb 16 12:50:15 I'd like just to test it and won't blame you if I'm less happy than with 2.6.35 :) Feb 16 12:52:20 :) Feb 16 12:53:09 JaMa: git://git.freesmartphone.org/linux-2.6.git;protocol=git;branch=nokia-next Feb 16 12:53:20 still have to tell mickeyl that I did that error again :/ Feb 16 12:53:30 and pushed it without nokia900/ prefix Feb 16 12:53:37 SRCREV = "52b8e7248df1eafb122612936cdb4130cfc146fb" Feb 16 12:54:05 defconfig: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/339565/ Feb 16 12:54:13 at least it booted ;) Feb 16 12:54:23 but defconfig for sure needs lots of adjusting Feb 16 12:55:53 mrmoku: thanks Feb 16 12:56:23 yw Feb 16 14:13:33 * root__ & jluis are at intel AppUp and just got one tablet each :D Feb 16 14:13:53 hehe fun :) Feb 16 14:30:41 seems like intel really wants to keep meego alive :) Feb 16 14:32:15 yep, they are Feb 16 14:35:56 maybe my quick reflash meego->nitdroid last Friday was too soon :) Feb 16 14:40:18 lol it can be, but meego seems to need somre more time to mature :) Feb 16 16:26:57 GNUtoo|laptop, hi :) Feb 16 16:27:11 GNUtoo|laptop, me and jluis got this -> http://www.exopc.com/en/exopc-slate.php Feb 16 16:27:30 GNUtoo|laptop, but without win7 and running MeeGo Feb 16 16:27:44 I have the kernel config in /boot Feb 16 16:27:52 lol win7 Feb 16 16:27:57 ok if it's running meego Feb 16 16:28:04 what do you want to do with it? Feb 16 16:28:37 how can I build vanilla kernel with my specfici config file in OE? Feb 16 16:28:48 GNUtoo|laptop, I'll try adding support for it in OE. Feb 16 16:29:22 it's easy Feb 16 16:39:25 just add the defconfig Feb 16 16:39:32 and bump PR Feb 16 16:39:45 but first look if they have a custom kernel or not Feb 16 16:39:53 because they seem to have multitouch etc... Feb 16 16:40:07 maybe some driver won't be there in the mainline kenrels Feb 16 16:42:13 GNUtoo|laptop, I think it's mainline, but I'm not sure, I can't find any kernel repo for it anyway. Feb 16 16:42:30 hmmm Feb 16 16:42:39 they must provide the source, else they violate the GPL Feb 16 16:43:12 * antrik also votes for including task-proper-tools by default in SHR... I bet the number of non-shell-users is exactly zero. Feb 16 16:45:27 GNUtoo|laptop, well, it's not necessary tht they provide the source somewhere if it's in mainline repo which is available publically. uname says version is 2.6.37-7.1 Feb 16 16:46:40 ok Feb 16 16:47:07 it's still necessary to point to mainline in my opinion but then add 2.6.37 to oe if it's not already there Feb 16 16:47:12 and add the config for your board Feb 16 16:47:41 GNUtoo|laptop: that exopc slate seems to be a normal netbook is a slightly different case... so no need for a custom kernel probably Feb 16 16:48:02 ok Feb 16 16:48:13 so the mainline has support for the touchscreen? Feb 16 16:48:38 maybe pastebin the defconfig Feb 16 16:49:22 don't know whether MT support is in mainline Linux yet, but probably it is... kernel support has been in the works for quite some time Feb 16 16:49:42 (as opposed to X support, which only got tracktion quite recently with Ubuntu's push) Feb 16 16:50:39 ok Feb 16 16:50:43 then try a mainline kenrel Feb 16 16:51:04 also, did anyone claim it actually has multitouch when running MeeGo?... :-) Feb 16 16:51:36 http://www.exopc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=4107 Feb 16 16:51:42 so it's the official meego Feb 16 16:52:53 GNUtoo|laptop, hmm and official meego is different than mainline? Feb 16 16:53:14 not a lot Feb 16 16:53:16 a bit Feb 16 16:54:03 GNUtoo|laptop, hmm and there's no meego linux kernel OE recipe as far as I see Feb 16 16:54:14 do you know where's the repo? Feb 16 16:54:53 BTW, it's not surprising that Intel continues to push MeeGo... after all, MobLin existed for tablets etc. long before Nokia teamed up with them. the interesting question is how much support the smartphone version will see now Feb 16 16:55:04 git://gitorious.org/meego-os-base/kernel-source.git ? Feb 16 16:55:31 pespin, look with yum and friends Feb 16 16:58:08 pespin: it was here before http://gitorious.org/meego-os-base/kernel-source Feb 16 16:58:18 ups :) Feb 16 16:58:27 yep, found it, thanks :) Feb 16 16:58:41 * JaMa|Off was scrolled 3 lines above :/ Feb 16 16:58:52 ok, shall I create a new machine config for it? Feb 16 16:59:07 yes usually you have to .. Feb 16 16:59:27 to have ie overrides and right FILESPATH for machine's defconfig etc Feb 16 17:08:33 pespin: why would anyone want to install an embedded system on something that is essentially a normal PC?... Feb 16 17:09:22 antrik, because it's aimed to be used with a touchscreen, it has gsm capabilities, etc. Feb 16 17:09:29 so SHR can be a good distro to use it too Feb 16 17:09:46 together with other PC-oriented distros such as debian or ubuntu Feb 16 17:09:53 in fact, I'm planning to install both :P Feb 16 17:10:02 SHR/archlinux Feb 16 17:11:42 and meego too Feb 16 17:13:10 having touchscreen as GSM is hardly a reason to use a crippled embedded environment... Feb 16 17:13:28 TBH, I have serious doubts that it makes sense even on modern smartphones Feb 16 17:13:38 err... and GSM Feb 16 17:19:21 antrik, openembedded has the customizability Feb 16 17:20:28 hmm can I remove this header if I copy this recipe as base for my machine config? Feb 16 17:20:29 # Copyright (C) 2007, Stelios Koroneos - Digital OPSiS, All Rights Reserved Feb 16 17:20:29 # Released under the MIT license (see packages/COPYING) Feb 16 17:21:55 yes, i think Stelios went a bit over the top with adding his headers to those kinds of files Feb 16 17:22:41 ok :P Feb 16 17:57:38 JaMa: is the buildhost free? Feb 16 17:58:00 JaMa: PaulFertser would need a n900-bison :) Feb 16 18:00:29 * mrmoku building Feb 16 18:01:03 mrmoku: no longer needed Feb 16 18:01:17 mrmoku: i have bison on laptop too and its output is platform-independent. Feb 16 18:01:21 mrmoku: yup Feb 16 18:01:34 PaulFertser: ahh, ok Feb 16 18:01:34 mrmoku: have you tried glib? Feb 16 18:01:37 mrmoku: though it would still be nicer to have all commonly needed build tools available nevertheress. Feb 16 18:01:46 JaMa: not yet :/ Feb 16 18:02:10 JaMa: is there a task-common-build-tools or something like that? :P Feb 16 18:02:19 mrmoku: ok, then push it after test (I'll be gone till monday Feb 16 18:02:23 jlmoko, hi! Feb 16 18:02:44 jlmoko, I'm writting the OE stuff for exoPC Slate, ping me when you have some time and I'll share :) Feb 16 18:02:59 JaMa: push to the feed? or push to OE? Feb 16 18:03:07 feed I guess Feb 16 18:03:36 mrmoku: mamona-sdk.inc is close but still not really task-common-build-tools Feb 16 18:04:01 mrmoku: better both (feed+OE) Feb 16 18:04:06 ok Feb 16 18:04:11 I'm downloading the image now Feb 16 18:04:22 can tell you in half an hour if it works Feb 16 18:04:25 when will you leave? Feb 16 18:04:40 going to bed in 3 hours hopefully Feb 16 18:04:50 then leaving before 4 am cca Feb 16 18:05:03 hehe, ok Feb 16 18:05:27 we should be in Munchen before rush hour :) Feb 16 18:05:59 heh Feb 16 18:06:08 what the hell are you doing over here? :P Feb 16 18:06:47 just speeding arround Munchen to get to Saalbach asap :) Feb 16 18:06:56 :) Feb 16 18:07:24 today we found out that Saalbach doesn't have 3,5day skipass so we'll buy 4 days and that's why we want arrive sooner Feb 16 18:09:08 ah, ok Feb 16 18:12:12 JaMa, any idea why it's failing http://paste.pocoo.org/show/339774/ ? Feb 16 18:12:33 I don't even know why it's building 2.6.32 kernel headers, as the kernel I'm trying to build is 2.6.37 Feb 16 18:13:27 * mrmoku booting Feb 16 18:14:38 pespin: weird, don't recall seeing this one Feb 16 18:15:20 JaMa, do you want me to show machine config and linux recipe? Feb 16 18:15:42 maybe I set something wrong Feb 16 18:16:04 pespin: sorry not today.. Feb 16 18:16:14 pespin, I'm here what have you done so far Feb 16 18:16:43 JaMa, ok np :) Feb 16 18:16:47 jlmoko, machine config -> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/339777/ Feb 16 18:17:52 (machine name I set was exopcslate) Feb 16 18:18:06 linux-exopcslate_2.6.37.bb -> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/339779/ Feb 16 18:18:21 JaMa: so far it looks good... it booted Feb 16 18:18:44 linux-exopcslate/defconfig -> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/339781/ Feb 16 18:18:56 that's all till now Feb 16 18:19:54 JaMa: it registered Feb 16 18:19:58 jlmoko, but it's failing to build atm due some weird error with linux-headers of a version different than the kernel I set there. Feb 16 18:20:06 pespin: s/linux-exopcslate_2.6.37.bb/linux-meego_2.6.37.bb/g as long as it doesn't have anything exapcsslate specific (move defconfig to axepcslate subdirectory Feb 16 18:21:02 ok Feb 16 18:21:18 * pespin going to get some bread, afk for some mins. Feb 16 18:21:27 JaMa: for me you can sync now... if you want to do it yourself Feb 16 18:23:06 mrmoku: can I add your ack to patch? Feb 16 18:23:33 heyho Feb 16 18:24:48 JaMa: yup Acked-by and Tested-on: gta02 :-) Feb 16 18:25:01 brb Feb 16 18:39:50 mickeyl: we have a regression :P Feb 16 18:40:55 2011-02-16T11:44:55.873740Z [WARN] PdpPppMux <>: PPP quit immediately; check options and permissions. Feb 16 18:41:36 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/0 Feb 16 18:41:36 on_phase_change: 4 Feb 16 18:41:44 is the last thing in ppp.log Feb 16 18:43:24 hm, libfsobasics fails to compile in O Feb 16 18:43:25 E Feb 16 18:47:19 morphis: compiled fine today.. Feb 16 18:47:38 hm Feb 16 18:47:49 maybe some local problem only Feb 16 18:47:53 JaMa: latest SRCREV? Feb 16 18:50:22 morphis: current in OE (without fso-autorev) Feb 16 18:50:51 ok Feb 16 18:54:36 hm, now it builds fine Feb 16 19:22:27 mickeyl: ping Feb 16 20:12:57 mrmoku, should I just translate the blog post? if so, where do I post the translation? just spread it around in Israeli blogs/forums? Feb 16 20:41:51 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * re15960e29e20 10/libfsobasics/ (fsobasics/process.vala tests/testprocess.vala): libfsobasics: add own implementation of pidof method Feb 16 20:47:10 TAsn: I don't know where to post Feb 16 20:47:18 i.c Feb 16 20:47:18 spreading around sounds good :-) Feb 16 20:47:56 TAsn: dos did some tracback thing for some polish forum Feb 16 20:48:07 :) Feb 16 20:53:28 * mrmoku tired and off to bed Feb 16 20:53:31 gnight all Feb 16 20:53:42 night. Feb 16 22:50:24 BOOOOO! life here? Feb 16 22:54:23 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: cripey! Feb 16 22:54:35 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: scared me for a second, thenre.... Feb 16 23:20:42 hehe Feb 17 00:03:28 *yawn* Feb 17 00:03:34 GNUtoo|laptop: pign Feb 17 00:03:36 ping Feb 17 00:09:55 mickeyl, pong Feb 17 00:10:09 can you issue two commands with sendisi? Feb 17 00:10:16 yes give me a sec Feb 17 00:10:27 * GNUtoo|laptop was fighting with boost since a very long time Feb 17 00:10:35 ~curse bjam Feb 17 00:10:35 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, bjam ! Feb 17 00:11:00 how do I do that? Feb 17 00:11:17 enable the modem with your standalon thingy Feb 17 00:11:17 what was the thing to bitbake? Feb 17 00:11:18 then Feb 17 00:11:23 libgisi Feb 17 00:11:31 libgisi emits libgisi-tools Feb 17 00:11:34 which contains sendisi Feb 17 00:11:40 ok Feb 17 00:21:57 hmm Feb 17 00:22:05 mickeyl, I've no libgisi-tools Feb 17 00:22:06 * mickeyl ponders to integrate gatppp from ofono Feb 17 00:22:09 I'll rebuild an image Feb 17 00:22:13 GNUtoo|laptop: autorev? Feb 17 00:22:14 what's that? Feb 17 00:22:17 yes of course Feb 17 00:22:18 ppp handling Feb 17 00:22:24 but build from yesterday Feb 17 00:22:30 ah right they have their own ppp stuff Feb 17 00:23:01 * GNUtoo|laptop hates bjam Feb 17 00:23:01 ppp was great in the days of the old dial-up modems, with 3g data modems it's just a nuisance Feb 17 00:23:07 ok Feb 17 00:23:19 it's in userspace, slow etc... Feb 17 00:30:25 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4277a79c957e 10/libfsotransport/configure.ac: libfsotransport: enable Palm Pre HSUART support by default Feb 17 00:42:16 mickeyl, I still don't have it Feb 17 00:42:20 I just rebuilt Feb 17 00:42:42 interesting Feb 17 00:43:34 builds for me Feb 17 00:43:38 strange Feb 17 00:43:47 how's your recipe looking? Feb 17 00:44:00 PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-tools" Feb 17 00:44:01 FILES_${PN}-tools = "${sbindir}/sendisi" Feb 17 00:44:03 is what i have at the bottom Feb 17 00:45:17 I've that Feb 17 00:45:29 but it's a library Feb 17 00:45:45 doesn't matter Feb 17 00:45:51 mickey@amethyst:/local/pkg/oe/n900$ ipkgfiles tmp/deploy/ipk/armv7a/libgisi-tools_0.0.0+gitr2+5d908e328920dc3c510e425491de51faed43161b-r0_armv7a.ipk Feb 17 00:45:51 drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2011-02-15 20:07 ./ Feb 17 00:45:51 drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2011-02-15 20:07 ./usr/ Feb 17 00:45:51 drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2011-02-15 20:07 ./usr/sbin/ Feb 17 00:45:51 -rwxr-xr-x root/root 10964 2011-02-15 20:07 ./usr/sbin/sendisi Feb 17 00:45:57 this is what i get here Feb 17 00:46:17 here's packages-split: Feb 17 00:46:20 libgisi libgisi-dbg libgisi-dev libgisi-dev.pcdeps libgisi-doc libgisi-locale libgisi.shlibdeps libgisi-static Feb 17 00:46:24 and here's sendisi: Feb 17 00:46:44 ./usr/sbin/sendisi Feb 17 00:46:47 in image Feb 17 00:46:53 I'll copy that to the target Feb 17 00:55:49 ready? i need to go to bed now Feb 17 00:56:04 the two commands i'm interested in are Feb 17 00:56:06 sendisi usbpn0 1b 07 01 Feb 17 00:56:24 sendisi usbpn0 1b 17 1 Feb 17 00:56:27 ok Feb 17 00:56:31 it's opkg upgrading Feb 17 00:56:34 should I stop it? Feb 17 00:56:45 usbpn0 or phonet0? Feb 17 00:58:02 phonet0 Feb 17 00:58:33 ok, here are the results: Feb 17 00:58:56 http://www.pastie.org/private/2i2shtlayrui5hzk2jqyg Feb 17 00:59:20 ooh, good Feb 17 00:59:41 so now we know how to get the bluetooth MAC Feb 17 00:59:56 lol ok Feb 17 01:00:22 the version answers is much smaller than mine Feb 17 01:00:41 obviously the modem delegates the question to one of the processes in maemo and they deliver info back Feb 17 01:00:47 strange flow, if you ask me Feb 17 01:00:50 *shrug* Feb 17 01:00:53 we don't need that Feb 17 01:02:14 ok, thanks. g'night Feb 17 01:04:59 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgisi * r6c2ccd0b8b29 10/tools/sendisi.vala: sendisi: remove debug message with copyright and disclaimer **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 17 02:59:57 2011