**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 20 02:59:57 2011 Feb 20 10:48:42 <[Rui]> moin Feb 20 11:33:30 mrmoku: buildhost is currently idling? Feb 20 11:34:57 2000.01.01 18:39:01.884739 [phonefsod] CRITICAL: !!! ouch, phoneuid is gone - telephony won't work anymore !!! Feb 20 11:36:05 hmmm call work Feb 20 11:36:16 maybe it has to do with SMS Feb 20 11:36:21 when I go in messages Feb 20 11:36:25 and click on the sms Feb 20 11:36:33 and show it Feb 20 11:36:39 it doesn't show it Feb 20 11:36:43 and something crash Feb 20 11:41:44 watchdogs needed? ;) Feb 20 11:47:27 moin Feb 20 12:14:05 mrmoku: thank you for the blog post Feb 20 12:14:41 mrmoku: i have reflashed and would like to test the sms receipt now, will paste some logs in case of issues... Feb 20 12:21:25 morphis: hi do you know why fsousage does not build here ? plugin.c:3939:2: error: too many arguments to function 'free_smartphone_usage_system_action_from_string' Feb 20 12:21:40 GarthPS: local or OE? Feb 20 12:21:44 OE Feb 20 12:21:51 AUTOREV or not? Feb 20 12:22:11 I mean I try to build shr-image from shr's makefile sor it is oe if i am not wrong Feb 20 12:22:21 <[Rui]> playya__: ping? can you please send me your elmdentica.h ? Feb 20 12:22:22 ok Feb 20 12:22:45 try to rebuild fso-specs and libfso-glib Feb 20 12:22:49 tinderbox is down.. Feb 20 12:22:50 maybe they are out of sync Feb 20 12:22:56 ok Feb 20 12:23:01 I will try . thx Feb 20 12:23:05 or the SRCREV of one need to be updated Feb 20 12:23:19 -I did not found what was needed to rebuild.. did not search a lot too) Feb 20 12:24:03 bitbake -c clean fso-specs && bitbake -c build fso-specs Feb 20 12:24:45 morphis: why not the entier reciepe (ie clean inculded ) ? Feb 20 12:25:27 it will not clean all dependencies Feb 20 12:25:32 [Rui], is it missing in the diff? Feb 20 12:25:36 which fso-specs and libfso-glib are Feb 20 12:26:15 bitbake -c clean shr-image will only run clean for shr-image Feb 20 12:27:28 [Rui], need to clean it first. I tried to implement a search timeline Feb 20 12:29:06 <[Rui]> playya__: I just want to make sure of the kinds of objects in Gui Feb 20 12:30:10 <[Rui]> I did't notice it didn't include elmdentica.h and as it applied cleanly I trusted it was all there. Now I was changing that which I talked yesterday about the auto update and make failed due to them :) Feb 20 12:30:21 <[Rui]> I'm guessing it's all Evas_Object*s but... Feb 20 12:31:13 <[Rui]> maybe they aren't Feb 20 12:34:04 morphis: ok thx! so now i continue building shr-image for palmpre . by the way did you uploaded a plampre2 machine in OE ? Feb 20 12:34:29 GarthPS: I did a long time ago :) Feb 20 12:34:38 just switch to MACHINE = palmpre2 Feb 20 12:34:47 it will build the right kernel + image Feb 20 12:35:55 morphis: hollyshit..! :) I am building for palmpre here :p Feb 20 12:36:09 no problem Feb 20 12:36:13 morphis: I hope there is not that much diff for the moment Feb 20 12:36:14 finish the build Feb 20 12:36:21 then switch MACHINE Feb 20 12:36:23 and rebuild Feb 20 12:36:29 already interupted Feb 20 12:36:30 it does not need to rebuild so much Feb 20 12:36:49 then restart build Feb 20 12:37:03 morphis: héhé I was already buulding for palmpre2 machine..... Feb 20 12:37:23 :) Feb 20 12:37:43 morphis: for now what differ ? Feb 20 12:37:51 only kernel Feb 20 12:38:10 <[Rui]> I think I guessed them all correctly Feb 20 12:38:54 ok thx. in the kernel, it differ only for the soc right ? i mean for now Feb 20 12:38:55 mrmoku: ok, sending of sms failed, timeout was reached Feb 20 12:39:10 logs after lunch Feb 20 12:39:32 [Rui], yes. all Evas_Object. and the following 2 lines: Feb 20 12:39:34 + Ecore_File_Download_Job *current_download; Feb 20 12:39:35 + Ecore_File_Progress_Return downloadstatus; Feb 20 12:39:43 inside the struct Feb 20 12:39:50 <[Rui]> yup, those are the ones I guessed correctly Feb 20 12:39:57 ok :) Feb 20 12:39:58 morphis: ^^ Feb 20 12:40:01 GNUtoo|laptop: ping Feb 20 12:40:04 <[Rui]> after looking more closely to the code Feb 20 12:41:33 Anyone here dealing with fso on N900? Feb 20 12:41:48 GarthPS: btw. I integrated support for the palmpre plus in fso-installer Feb 20 12:44:18 mrmoku, hi Feb 20 12:44:33 morphis:uploaded ? Feb 20 12:44:48 GarthPS: jepp Feb 20 12:44:56 <[Rui]> playya__: I also changed the signal from changed to delay,changed so the callback is fired only a short time after stopping on an option rather than immediately (which was a bit to fast). Feb 20 12:45:07 mrmoku, i've made a new bug about speed of kernel Feb 20 12:45:22 for om-gta02 Feb 20 12:45:50 who has access to the defconfig? Feb 20 12:47:27 morphis: for me fso-installe did not change since 2weeks Feb 20 12:48:10 uups Feb 20 12:48:23 morphis: :) Feb 20 12:48:35 I need to push, wait a moment Feb 20 12:48:41 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * rf2d038945d69 10/palmpre/tellbootie/src/tellbootie.c: palmpre: tellbootie: switch to REBOOT2 as reboot command instead of REBOOT Feb 20 12:48:44 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * r9eff2d8e791b 10/palmpre/fso-installer/Makefile: palmpre: fso-installer: add support for the Pre Plus device Feb 20 12:48:46 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * rfdbf431ddf08 10/palmpre/fso-installer/Makefile: palmpre: fso-installer: make base url for downloading exchangable Feb 20 12:49:31 larsc, hi Feb 20 12:51:01 GNUtoo|om-gta02: hi Feb 20 12:51:52 morphis: it is good now ? Feb 20 12:52:12 larsc, do you have access to om-gta02's defconfig Feb 20 12:52:33 GNUtoo|om-gta02: config used in SHR is in OE Feb 20 12:53:00 ah....so it changed Feb 20 12:53:30 before it was taken from the arch/arm/configs/ Feb 20 12:53:43 so i'll fix then Feb 20 12:53:53 thanks a lot Feb 20 12:54:32 GNUtoo|om-gta02: uhm, well at least in the om git repo Feb 20 12:54:52 GNUtoo|om-gta02: you should tell JaMa so that he can update the config in his branch too Feb 20 12:57:51 ok Feb 20 12:57:58 branch? Feb 20 12:58:45 GNUtoo|om-gta02: he uses a branch on gitorious for the kernel Feb 20 12:58:55 <[Rui]> playya__: do you think so many update intervals are a realistic use case? I think they should be much less Feb 20 12:59:17 morphis: I don't see the diff between pre and prelus in the makefile.. Feb 20 13:01:27 it's only for the MEDIA_TARGET_SIZE Feb 20 13:01:36 the pre plus have the same flash size as the pre2 Feb 20 13:01:45 everything else is the same for preplus and pre Feb 20 13:02:25 look at the commit diff Feb 20 13:03:47 <[Rui]> playya__: I don't see the need for more than "0,60,120,300,600,900,1800,3600" Feb 20 13:04:15 <[Rui]> and even the longer ones are a bit excessive for me, personally. Feb 20 13:05:51 Heinervdm, where in oe? Feb 20 13:06:06 GNUtoo|laptop: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/linux/linux-2.6.34/om-gta02/defconfig Feb 20 13:06:15 ok thanks Feb 20 13:06:22 because I didn't see any linux-openmoko Feb 20 13:06:34 so I wondered if it was in files, in linux-2.6.34 etc... Feb 20 13:07:05 thanks a lot Feb 20 13:07:06 we apply our patches to the normal linux-2.6.34 recipe Feb 20 13:07:16 altough I could have grepped for om-gta02 Feb 20 13:07:17 ok Feb 20 13:07:20 :) Feb 20 13:07:34 morphis: ok understood Feb 20 13:08:24 is here someone with trac admin rights for shr trac? Feb 20 13:11:17 GNUtoo|laptop: how did you manage the xkeyboard-config for the dream machine? Is it already upstream? Feb 20 13:11:32 morphis, yes it's upstream Feb 20 13:11:45 was it hard to get it there? Feb 20 13:11:51 yes Feb 20 13:11:54 but follow what I did Feb 20 13:11:59 and it should be easy for you Feb 20 13:12:11 there is a bugreport in x-keyboard-config about it Feb 20 13:13:52 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30903 Feb 20 13:14:43 morphis: shr-image build here. but no time to test it ight now Feb 20 13:15:26 GarthPS: ok Feb 20 13:17:38 <[Rui]> playya__: I've reduced them to that list of times and made them localizable Feb 20 13:17:48 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Feb 20 13:23:09 Heinervdm, I just bump that: Feb 20 13:23:10 OM-PR = "17" Feb 20 13:23:11 ? Feb 20 13:23:55 GNUtoo|laptop: i think so Feb 20 13:23:58 ok Feb 20 13:24:01 thanks a lot Feb 20 13:43:54 mrmoku: sms receipt logs. behavior is a bit funny, please see http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1291 Feb 20 13:44:10 * vanous going out with the children, bbl Feb 20 13:48:16 vanous: ok, will take a look now Feb 20 13:48:50 GNUtoo|laptop: (defconfig) dunno who has commit access to the kernel git. larsc obviously and I _think_ PaulFertser too Feb 20 13:49:01 GNUtoo|laptop: but probably we should talk with larsc about it Feb 20 13:49:11 ok Feb 20 13:49:16 but the config is in oe Feb 20 13:49:19 according to Heinervdm Feb 20 13:49:30 and I verified that there is one in oe Feb 20 13:52:19 GNUtoo|laptop: ahh, ok... then just commit :) Feb 20 13:53:09 I'll test before Feb 20 13:53:14 but I've some issues Feb 20 13:53:19 ffmpeg doesn'tcompile Feb 20 13:53:23 or link rather Feb 20 13:53:45 unresolvable R_ARM_THM_CALL relocation against symbol `memcpy@@GLIBC_2.4' Feb 20 13:54:08 THM is for thumb? Feb 20 13:58:26 * mrmoku lunch Feb 20 14:48:55 GNUtoo|laptop, hi, I remember you having some problems with GNU_HASH? Feb 20 14:49:10 I'm having problems with it when building libffi in shr-testing for exopc slate Feb 20 14:49:26 yes that was long time ago Feb 20 14:50:37 GNUtoo|laptop, how did you solve it? Feb 20 14:51:06 basically pass LDFLAGS to the build system the apps use Feb 20 14:51:18 it depend on the app Feb 20 14:51:52 GNUtoo|laptop, LDFLAGS with what options? Feb 20 14:52:29 $LDFLAGS Feb 20 14:52:38 or ${LDFLAGS} Feb 20 14:52:41 or something like that Feb 20 14:52:46 the LDFLAGS from oe Feb 20 14:53:08 GNUtoo|laptop, ah, then the var has correct value but is not set at build time? Feb 20 14:54:21 basically without oe's LDFLAGS passed Feb 20 14:54:28 you don't have --hash-style=gnu Feb 20 14:54:33 which trigger that error Feb 20 15:03:38 GNUtoo|laptop, hmm how/where do I need to set the LDFLAGS envar in recipes/libacpi/libacpi_0.2.bb? Feb 20 15:03:49 I'll look Feb 20 15:03:53 ok thanks :) Feb 20 15:04:24 EXTRA_OEMAKE = Feb 20 15:08:15 for instance: Feb 20 15:08:29 EXTRA_OEMAKE = 'LDFLAGS = ${LDFLAGS}' Feb 20 15:08:41 if it doesn't work Feb 20 15:08:44 dig into the Makefile Feb 20 15:09:10 ok Feb 20 15:09:14 thanks Feb 20 15:50:38 morphis: no touch screen even after /usr/bin/tsmd -n /dev/touchscreen and no proper shutdown with "halt" Feb 20 15:51:11 GarthPS: ok Feb 20 15:51:23 shutdown with halt is known as problem Feb 20 15:51:28 no working touchscreen is new Feb 20 15:51:31 should working Feb 20 15:51:38 did it worked before? Feb 20 15:51:57 yes the first time I tested with you after a /usr/bin/tsmd -n /dev/touchscreen Feb 20 15:52:35 ok Feb 20 15:52:46 you compiled your image from recent OE head? Feb 20 15:53:10 yop I did a make update just before Feb 20 15:53:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07cornucopia * re7979cf3ee29 10/fsodeviced/conf/openmoko_gta/alsa-2.6.34/ (6 files): Feb 20 15:53:37 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: fix eol for openmoko 2.6.34 alsa statefiles Feb 20 15:53:37 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Feb 20 15:54:58 GarthPS: hm ok Feb 20 15:55:11 does /usr/bin/tsmd -n /dev/touchscreen -f print out any errors? Feb 20 15:55:25 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rc6b12e0bf462 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/lowlevel_palmpre/plugin.vala: fsousaged: lowlevel_palmpre: remove wrong newline character Feb 20 15:55:37 vanous: it looks like phoneuid is segfaulting :/ Feb 20 15:56:47 morphis: sorry but I am already under webos and don't have time right now Feb 20 15:57:15 GarthPS: ok, no problem Feb 20 15:57:20 2011-02-16T15:11:29.024051Z [DEBUG] TiCalypsoModem <4C>: Did not receive OK (instead '+CMS ERROR: 340') for FsoGsmPlusCNMA Feb 20 15:57:26 2011-02-16T15:11:29.024523Z [WARN] FsoGsmAtSmsHandler <230027902000855>: Can't acknowledge new SMS Feb 20 15:57:29 is interesting too Feb 20 15:59:20 btw. whats with the new design for the SHR trac (http://shr-project.org/trac/attachment/wiki/TracRedesign/shr-trac.png)? Feb 20 16:00:20 morphis: the problem is we can't do it ourselves... need bearstech for that Feb 20 16:00:31 mrmoku: ah ok Feb 20 16:00:41 mrmoku: and they don't want it to do? Feb 20 16:00:49 guess dos1 did not really ask them yet ;) Feb 20 16:02:56 * mrmoku would like to have a current trac with multiple git repo support :) Feb 20 16:04:47 newer kenrel config seem to work fine Feb 20 16:04:58 I'll push when midori will have finished to compile Feb 20 16:05:11 GNUtoo|laptop: what does it fix? Feb 20 16:05:23 ouch Feb 20 16:05:25 wait a sec Feb 20 16:05:31 Heinervdm, speed issues normally Feb 20 16:05:36 ok Feb 20 16:05:38 but we have an issue that appeared: Feb 20 16:06:15 [ 780.420000] Alignment trap: enlightenment (1690) PC=0x402943f6 Instr=0x6023 Address=0xbe9c36bf FSR 0x813 Feb 20 16:06:25 do you have theses on normal kenrel config? Feb 20 16:06:44 maybe it's due to the installation of eve Feb 20 16:06:47 I'll reboot and look Feb 20 16:07:37 mrmoku: GNUtoo|laptop: short pong (i'm having a feverish cold :/) Feb 20 16:07:45 mickey|zzZZzz: ohh, sorry Feb 20 16:07:48 mrmoku: btw are you trac admin for SHR trac? Feb 20 16:07:58 my ping is probably obsolete anyway... Feb 20 16:08:04 morphis: I have admin rights, yup Feb 20 16:08:05 mickey|zzZZzz, hi Feb 20 16:08:24 GNUtoo|laptop, are you using --enable-neon for evas? Feb 20 16:08:27 mickey|zzZZzz, we're working on fixing shr long standing bug, do you want me to work on something else>? Feb 20 16:08:32 s/>// Feb 20 16:08:32 GNUtoo|laptop meant: mickey|zzZZzz, we're working on fixing shr long standing bug, do you want me to work on something else? Feb 20 16:08:33 mrmoku: can we add a "machine" field for our tickets? Feb 20 16:08:37 mickey|zzZZzz: get well fast then :-) Feb 20 16:08:42 playya__, no idea, how do I look? Feb 20 16:08:46 morphis: let me check Feb 20 16:08:56 mrmoku: thanks, working on it. this destroys my plans to join the Stammtisch next week though Feb 20 16:08:59 mrmoku: maybe even a image field + OE srcrev would be nice Feb 20 16:09:01 GNUtoo|laptop, later. talk to mickey|zzZZzz first Feb 20 16:09:33 GNUtoo|laptop: i have still no idea about your crash, so fixing SHR bugs is always a good thing. We can try to change the lambda to a callback to see whether this changes anything though Feb 20 16:09:39 morphis: no, can't add fields Feb 20 16:09:53 hm Feb 20 16:09:58 thats bad Feb 20 16:10:08 we really need something like this Feb 20 16:10:18 trac is 0.11.1 Feb 20 16:10:43 maybe we should update it Feb 20 16:10:45 stable is 0.12 Feb 20 16:10:53 only bearstech can do that, right? Feb 20 16:10:55 yup Feb 20 16:11:06 who is our contact there? Feb 20 16:11:08 mrmoku: isn't this just a link? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing2011.1/ Feb 20 16:11:21 Heinervdm: IIRC yes Feb 20 16:11:53 mickey|zzZZzz, I've traces Feb 20 16:11:55 mrmoku: i have new images here: http://build.shr-project.org/tests/shr-testing/ but they aren't in shr-testing2011.1 Feb 20 16:11:55 if you want Feb 20 16:11:59 I pastebined them here Feb 20 16:12:09 GNUtoo|laptop: i shortly looked over them, but they don't reveal anything Feb 20 16:12:18 morphis: hmm... trying to remember :P Feb 20 16:12:24 ok Feb 20 16:12:25 hm that sounds bad Feb 20 16:12:31 but someone helped me Feb 20 16:12:31 morphis: ahh, lukas IIRC Feb 20 16:12:32 i don't see how it should crash on that short expression Feb 20 16:12:34 maybe it was playya__ Feb 20 16:12:50 and a yield added somewhere can help prevent the crash Feb 20 16:12:52 GNUtoo|laptop: if you have a gdb prompt, it would be interesting to dump some variables next time it crashes for oyu Feb 20 16:12:54 if I remember somehwere Feb 20 16:12:58 no, that yield won't help Feb 20 16:13:02 ok Feb 20 16:13:05 and it's not correct that early Feb 20 16:13:13 ok Feb 20 16:13:15 * mrmoku unpacks old irc logs to verify Feb 20 16:13:16 we need to check whether netlink start has been executed at all before yielding Feb 20 16:13:20 mrmoku: is it the same server where our builds are running on? Feb 20 16:13:21 should I get a gdb prompt now? Feb 20 16:13:35 or you don't have time? Feb 20 16:13:38 yes, i got 5 more minutes before going back to bed ;) Feb 20 16:13:59 mickey|zzZZzz, ??? you're not at cebit? Feb 20 16:14:08 cebit is next week Feb 20 16:14:11 ah ok Feb 20 16:14:11 i'm sick at home Feb 20 16:14:21 just very busy the last days, therefore not on irc Feb 20 16:14:25 ok Feb 20 16:14:35 mrmoku: what about using the component field for the machine description for a ticket? Feb 20 16:14:43 btw speed improvements comming to om-gta02 Feb 20 16:14:53 unwinding was not used Feb 20 16:15:03 it's not the best option ... Feb 20 16:15:10 morphis: lukhas in #bearstech Feb 20 16:15:21 mrmoku: thanks Feb 20 16:15:24 morphis: no, no good option I think Feb 20 16:15:43 mrmoku: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTicketsCustomFields Feb 20 16:15:51 we need to adjust trac.ini for custom fields Feb 20 16:15:54 mickey|zzZZzz, you need webOS Doctor? Feb 20 16:15:57 can we do that? Feb 20 16:16:06 no Feb 20 16:16:11 GNUtoo|laptop: :) Feb 20 16:16:14 heh Feb 20 16:16:19 yes Feb 20 16:16:26 mrmoku: so even ask lukhas for that Feb 20 16:16:28 morphis: the only things we can do is what the admin frontend offers Feb 20 16:17:12 ok I'll try to get a gdb shell Feb 20 16:18:14 morphis: hmm... trac itself is a plugin... we can install plugins via the frontend :) Feb 20 16:18:24 dunno if that would work with trac itself Feb 20 16:18:46 hm Feb 20 16:19:34 but anyway we need to edit the trac.ini to add some custom fields Feb 20 16:19:58 mrmoku: maybe we should move to another server where we have more access at some point in the future Feb 20 16:20:00 yup, maybe we should consider to move it to something where we have more access ;) Feb 20 16:20:04 heh Feb 20 16:20:08 :) Feb 20 16:20:12 but we need money for that Feb 20 16:20:15 we are borg :P Feb 20 16:20:23 hrhr Feb 20 16:21:17 tuxbrain may give you some access Feb 20 16:21:32 hmm... trac does not need lots of bandwith... Feb 20 16:22:03 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgisi * r5787d542a19c 10/gisicomm/gisicomm.vala: gisicomm: DEBUG only change to find out why the startup sequence crashes on device, but not with forwarding Feb 20 16:22:13 I spoke with victor at fosdem about it and said he had to speak about it with david, but that they probably could give some access. Feb 20 16:23:13 trac is still the thing to go for? if we do something new? Feb 20 16:23:23 or is there something better these days? Feb 20 16:23:48 GNUtoo|laptop: i need to go back, please have a try with what i just committed and post me the log, if you have a chance. thanx Feb 20 16:24:04 ok thanks a lot Feb 20 16:24:09 I send the log where? Feb 20 16:24:10 on irc? Feb 20 16:24:15 or to your mail? Feb 20 16:24:22 with CC mailing list Feb 20 16:24:23 irc is fine, will take a look later Feb 20 16:24:35 ok Feb 20 16:26:30 mrmoku: there is redmine Feb 20 16:26:41 yeah... kde is using redmine Feb 20 16:26:49 buglabs uses redmine too Feb 20 16:28:28 GNUtoo|laptop: would you advise for it? Feb 20 16:29:00 mrmoku: who is the owner of your domain? Feb 20 16:29:11 I don't know redmine enough Feb 20 16:29:36 morphis: me :-) Feb 20 16:29:53 morphis: Ainulindale was and passed it over to me as he got dormant Feb 20 16:30:52 great, one problem less :) Feb 20 16:33:56 hmm... will install redmine to play with it then Feb 20 16:35:16 hmmm big problem Feb 20 16:35:27 c3119c5f43a91c265a51db469c446c89d5d3cc54 Feb 20 16:35:31 in oe Feb 20 16:35:37 it remove unwind Feb 20 16:35:40 and add frame pointer Feb 20 16:35:44 but doesn't give detail Feb 20 16:35:54 linux-2.6.34: small update of om-gta0* defconfig Feb 20 16:36:03 and JaMa is...on hollidays Feb 20 16:36:41 hmm Feb 20 16:36:48 ah was for gta01 Feb 20 16:36:49 should be back tonight I think Feb 20 16:36:52 ahh, o Feb 20 16:36:53 k Feb 20 16:37:13 should I wait for him? Feb 20 16:37:16 or should I push? Feb 20 16:37:52 hmm... no idea Feb 20 16:38:13 larsc: what is you take on frame pointer vs. arm unwind? Feb 20 16:38:15 +r Feb 20 16:39:16 mrmoku, what do you think of bugzilla? Feb 20 16:39:28 apart that it's perl....hmmm Feb 20 16:40:04 mrmoku: i have no idea Feb 20 16:40:16 the kconfig is clear Feb 20 16:40:26 if you don't use it frame pointer get selected Feb 20 16:40:37 larsc: ok, thanks Feb 20 16:40:37 and you end up with huge performance issues Feb 20 16:40:55 GNUtoo|laptop: I distaste bugzilla... Feb 20 16:40:58 using unwinding preserve debugability, give you speed Feb 20 16:41:04 but the image is bigger Feb 20 16:41:05 and then it's just a bug tracker Feb 20 16:41:09 so I lzma-ed it Feb 20 16:41:16 we need a wiki too Feb 20 16:41:18 and so we have all advantages Feb 20 16:41:19 ok Feb 20 16:41:55 GNUtoo|laptop: do you feel the speed difference? Feb 20 16:42:02 yes Feb 20 16:42:07 but feel is subjective Feb 20 16:42:16 it could be a false impression Feb 20 16:42:19 * pespin doesn't like much bugzilla Feb 20 16:42:59 if we are going to change blog, my vote goes for wordpress :) Feb 20 16:43:15 blog is on yet another server :P Feb 20 16:44:41 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue_tracking_systems Feb 20 16:50:07 pespin: is it not wordpress? Feb 20 16:50:14 the blog even needs a fresh design Feb 20 16:50:23 the current one is not the best choice ... Feb 20 16:50:30 morphis, the blog we have now is not wordpress Feb 20 16:51:09 pespin: hm Feb 20 16:51:14 morphis: moveable type Feb 20 16:53:57 if the blog is even on another space we can switch it Feb 20 16:54:07 anybody against switching the blog to wordpress? Feb 20 16:54:58 wordpress needs too much ram Feb 20 16:57:10 morphis: another space... where we don't have access ;) Feb 20 17:00:43 mrmoku, if you want I can ask tuxbrain guys if they are interested in giving us some space in their host. Feb 20 17:01:18 but first thing would be to ask bearstech if they are willing to give more access to the sites we already have. Then no change is necessary :P Feb 20 17:01:57 ok... dinner now though :) Feb 20 17:04:28 * pespin hates the light sensor of the exoPC slate... Feb 20 17:04:39 it changes the backlight dynamically depending on the light Feb 20 17:04:49 and it's difficult to read if there's not so much light Feb 20 17:08:18 hm Feb 20 17:08:19 root@palmpre ~ # ls /etc/rc5.d/ Feb 20 17:08:19 S02dbus-1 S20apmd S20fsodeviced S20syslog S23read_tokens S50usb-gadget S99rmnologin Feb 20 17:08:19 S09sshd S20cron S20phonefsod S20xserver-nodm S28msmcommd S97atd Feb 20 17:08:34 is that ok, that 6 daemons are started a the same time? Feb 20 17:08:44 especially fsodeviced and phonefsod? Feb 20 17:15:03 morphis: at the same time? Feb 20 17:15:36 they are all at S20 Feb 20 17:15:55 morphis: yeah that probably means that they are started in alphabetical order Feb 20 17:18:22 hm Feb 20 17:19:37 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07framework * r60791a9340e3 10/etc/palmpre/frameworkd.conf: Add configuration for palmpre machine Feb 20 17:28:51 mrmoku: is the theme dos1 made somewhere available? Feb 20 17:29:07 I am currently talking to lukhas in #bearstech Feb 20 17:31:51 mrmoku: I will tell him to add some custom fields for our trac tickets Feb 20 17:34:49 dos has it somewhere... don't remember the link though Feb 20 17:36:12 ok Feb 20 17:36:15 playya__: ping Feb 20 17:36:20 pong Feb 20 17:36:26 playya__: I need some vala help Feb 20 17:36:30 ok Feb 20 17:37:10 playya__: http://pastebin.com/HWgwKYdU Feb 20 17:37:18 I have a data array in a structure Feb 20 17:37:59 and I have a getter Feb 20 17:38:11 where I want to copy the data into a structure which has the same length Feb 20 17:38:15 and return it Feb 20 17:38:21 this shouldn't work without a __attribute__((packed)) somewhere Feb 20 17:38:42 ok Feb 20 17:38:51 for the data property? Feb 20 17:39:12 no. for the struct Feb 20 17:39:16