**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 22 02:59:58 2011 Feb 22 06:41:50 wow, both shr-lite-image and meta-toolchain built on the first try, w/o any errors! Feb 22 06:43:05 (before I'd often stop on some error) Feb 22 06:48:58 [Rui]: two bugs with one commit... congrats :) Feb 22 06:52:53 moin Feb 22 06:53:04 moin JaMa|Off Feb 22 07:32:22 mrmoku: what about that leds name patch? in smartphone ML? http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2011-February/002911.html Feb 22 07:33:24 mrmoku: do we really want /sys/class/leds/gta02:red:aux > gta02redaux or gta02_red_aux and lost _ are just sideeffect of other changes? Feb 22 07:34:35 JaMa: how about using the same names as omhacks? Feb 22 07:34:39 :) Feb 22 07:37:34 lindi-: so ie "gta02:red:aux" like sysfs nodes, right? Feb 22 07:45:02 mrmoku, mickey|zzZZzz: var cleanedname = objectpath.replace( "-", "_" ).replace( ":", "_" ); was changed to version without "_" in http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=blobdiff;f=libfsoframework/fsoframework/subsystem.vala;h=d1e18a394fd0d936015ecd02402fb84a870e030f;hp=95723d6b213ca967d9682a7e8c9c2d663589ddbe;hb=c73230f201d1ec569037952a76b61bc701f99003;hpb=405c61827b1c5fdea78065373c40ec49554edb25 so I guess we need to live with t Feb 22 07:49:30 JaMa: $ man om | grep power_orange Feb 22 07:49:31 Lists the state of the given LED device. In addition to native kernel names you can also use the aliases vibrator, power_orange, power_blue and aux_red Feb 22 08:44:51 <[Rui]> mrmoku: heh Feb 22 08:44:53 <[Rui]> well, moin and going!" bye! Feb 22 08:48:11 JaMa: hmm... we'll have to ask mickey|zzZZzz if there is some technical reasoning for that Feb 22 08:48:25 mrmoku: agreed Feb 22 08:49:36 JaMa: btw. do you have efl from trunk actually _running_ on gta02? Feb 22 08:49:44 mrmoku: yes Feb 22 08:50:06 JaMa: could you check if the options hover in contacts list works correctly? Feb 22 08:50:36 probably not before you come home... but anyway :) Feb 22 08:50:37 maybe tonight, if I go home Feb 22 08:50:39 :) Feb 22 08:51:00 it works correctly for me on my laptop with trunk Feb 22 08:51:18 but I can test on n900 where I have same efl.. Feb 22 08:51:26 ahh, good Feb 22 08:51:50 if it works correctly with trunk we will have to think about switching back to trunk Feb 22 08:52:52 http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/be2eb8a42d5d63c509a3fef7e88069e844818d79 http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/e7e18b31c35f52629cf86d659d5f0ce4965e155a :) Feb 22 08:54:16 but I have to test if bumping EFL_SRCREV is still compatible with efl-1.0.0 or drop D_P = -1 from efl globally so every distro in OE will jump to trunk with us Feb 22 09:02:40 JaMa: we should make your chroot the official supported SHR building method Feb 22 09:02:55 looks like lots of people are failing to contribute to do build problems Feb 22 09:02:59 which is a sad thing Feb 22 09:03:16 s/to do/due to/ Feb 22 09:09:16 then we should integrate it somehow to SHR Makefile :) Feb 22 09:16:05 JaMa: yup Feb 22 09:16:25 make install-chroot :-) Feb 22 09:16:49 and refresh it when available during make update :) Feb 22 09:16:56 hehe Feb 22 09:17:12 maybe good documentation how to use it would be a first step Feb 22 09:35:29 mrmoku: does your ack still hold? http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/af862602827886f061f198c3256d54e1d3d14c8d Feb 22 09:37:05 JaMa: no idea about gta01 Feb 22 09:37:37 PaulFertser: what do you think about that? ^^ Feb 22 09:38:15 mrmoku: I've synced it the otherway few commits before.. so this only returns it back Feb 22 09:38:47 in c3119c5f43a91c265a51db469c446c89d5d3cc54 Feb 22 09:40:26 JaMa: ok, then my ack still holds :) Feb 22 09:41:00 mickey|office: morning Feb 22 09:57:14 mrmoku: hey Feb 22 10:01:30 PaulFertser: morning :) Feb 22 10:01:50 PaulFertser: do you agree with ARM_UNWIND instead of framepointers on gta01 (and 02 for that) ? Feb 22 10:02:16 mrmoku: the commit message looks nice, so it seems like that's a good choice. Feb 22 10:03:39 good Feb 22 10:04:41 * JaMa changing that also in 2.6.37.1 Feb 22 10:09:46 JaMa, mrmoku +1 to adding chroot to makefile :D Feb 22 10:10:45 * JaMa fears that everybody will now use my provider's DNS :) will change that to google dns for next version Feb 22 10:10:53 could we maybe use rsync so it's not necessary to download all of it each time there's an upgrade? Feb 22 10:11:21 pespin: that would require to have it unpacked on the buildhost Feb 22 10:11:48 mrmoku, is that a problem? Feb 22 10:12:05 mrmoku: and rsyncd, no? Feb 22 10:12:16 mrmoku: or can rsync sync against normal http? Feb 22 10:12:24 no idea Feb 22 10:12:28 I think it would save lots of bandwith to server and users Feb 22 10:12:50 * mrmoku running du -sh Feb 22 10:15:25 and if something needs fix in the chroot, users could upgrade it easily and faster. Feb 22 10:15:41 so more ease of use for developers => more stuff done :) Feb 22 10:15:42 how big overhead would be to push it to some git repo? :) Feb 22 10:15:43 du still running :P Feb 22 10:16:14 JaMa: I nice git repo on gitorious... sounds nice :-) Feb 22 10:16:34 why not on buildhost? Feb 22 10:16:47 well yes, would be great to know difference in size between compressed and uncompressed chroots :) Feb 22 10:16:48 do we still have git daemon running? Feb 22 10:16:57 as I'm not sure about pushing binary "system" to gitorious Feb 22 10:17:23 mrmoku: yes Feb 22 10:17:36 ok, then the only constraint is disk space Feb 22 10:17:41 du still running ;) Feb 22 10:18:13 * JaMa should be able to strip it a bit more Feb 22 10:18:26 mrmoku: and you still have that old version, no? Feb 22 10:18:53 well not that different wrt size Feb 22 10:18:54 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 145M srp 9 2010 OE-chroot.20100809.tar.bz2 Feb 22 10:18:57 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 129M led 30 22:10 OE-chroot.20110130.tar.bz2 Feb 22 10:19:31 JaMa: I have both unpacked... using the new one though Feb 22 10:19:40 JaMa: do you think it's not allowed to put binarys there? Feb 22 10:22:23 HeinervdmWork: not sure if it's ok to put "mostly" binaries to project, sources + ie additional ie bitmaps should be ok, but I didn't read conditions lately Feb 22 10:22:39 0022 mok@ladyt[pts/1]:~-> du -sh shrbuild/OE-chroot.20110130 Feb 22 10:22:39 37G shrbuild/OE-chroot.20110130 Feb 22 10:23:15 duh Feb 22 10:23:23 contains tmp too :P Feb 22 10:24:48 hehe :) Feb 22 10:25:10 you have to unbind those dirs first :) Feb 22 10:25:27 mmt my image is almost finished, I'll check current version Feb 22 10:26:40 I've put some more ideas on this page yesterday: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Programs%20that%20wait%20for%20YOU! Feb 22 10:27:04 I think this can also be a starting point for users which are willing to contribute Feb 22 10:27:23 JaMa: I have tmp directly in chroot :) Feb 22 10:27:30 mrmoku: ah :) Feb 22 10:28:11 mrmoku: can you setup chroot repo for me (/me never did it on shr git) and I'll try to push it there (then we can measure space again of that git repo?) Feb 22 10:28:24 JaMa: yup Feb 22 10:28:29 HeinervdmWork: got another for that list: a keyboard with customizable layout... Feb 22 10:28:40 0022 mok@ladyt[pts/1]:~-> du -sh /tmp/OE-chroot.20110130/ Feb 22 10:28:41 546M /tmp/OE-chroot.20110130/ Feb 22 10:28:45 that is more reasonable :) Feb 22 10:28:50 Wonka: then put it on that page :) Feb 22 10:28:59 drag&drop customizable layout, to mess with someone else phone :) Feb 22 10:29:24 ie qwrte keyboard :) Feb 22 10:32:19 HeinervdmWork: mmh kay... if I'm lucky, I can test current SHR-U today and see how matchbox-keyboard performs currently Feb 22 10:35:48 JaMa: shr-chroot Feb 22 10:37:23 HeinervdmWork, we could paste that link to #e/#edevelop in case someone wants to help or is already doing it. Feb 22 10:39:34 pespin: yes that's a good idea Feb 22 10:44:03 any package request for chroot? :) Feb 22 11:52:03 mrmoku: looks like I have to "git add" with root :/ don't know if git pull works with suid binaries :/ Feb 22 11:55:37 JaMa: oh yeah... it won't :( Feb 22 11:56:24 * mrmoku lunch Feb 22 12:05:16 but looks like chroot is still working after "chown bitbake:bitbake -R shr-chroot" :) Feb 22 12:23:19 mrmoku: but ^^ forces user to checkout shr-chroot with bitbake UID (1026 currently) or alter chroot's /etc/passwd bitbake UID to same UID as user who called make update (can be altered in Makefile :)) Feb 22 12:34:21 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r260229e7852c 10/ (36205 files in 1754 dirs): Initial commit Feb 22 12:49:38 * JaMa trying new make setup :) Feb 22 13:03:43 JaMa: I always change uid of bitbake to be equal to my user Feb 22 13:12:50 that what I do now in Makefile Feb 22 13:13:01 s/that/that's/ Feb 22 13:13:02 JaMa meant: that's what I do now in Makefile Feb 22 13:16:04 good... last question then is if a build after chown bitbake still works :) Feb 22 13:18:27 HeinervdmWork: is #1092 fixed in testing? (the sms keyboard not working correctly thing) Feb 22 13:22:34 mrmoku: yup, already tried (just image, not from scratch..) Feb 22 13:23:00 mrmoku: uh, i haven't tried but it should be working Feb 22 13:23:08 will test this evening Feb 22 13:23:12 mrmoku: btw, do you have everything in /OE subdirectory? Feb 22 13:23:24 mrmoku: like openembedded/shr-unstable etc? Feb 22 13:23:52 mrmoku: I would like to move it there and also drop bitbake checkout (and use bitbake from chroot) Feb 22 13:23:53 JaMa: I have downloads and oe bind mounted to /OE Feb 22 13:24:25 JaMa: I have no problem with those residing in the chroot though Feb 22 13:24:35 JaMa: and using bitbake from chroot is a good thing Feb 22 13:33:15 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r7575f3f2f9f1 10/OE/.keep: Force /OE creation in shr-chroot Feb 22 13:38:28 mrmoku: can I drop prefetch from Makefile? or what did it do? Feb 22 13:39:18 mrmoku: ah I see.. openembedded.mk Feb 22 13:39:42 JaMa: don't remember... too long ago and probably not even from me Feb 22 13:39:52 JaMa: change whatever is needed to make it work :) Feb 22 13:42:05 mrmoku: whole openembedded.mk looks useless to me :/, but I'm used to calling bitbake, don't know if someone is used to it, like ". ./setup-env; exec ${BITBAKE} package-index" Feb 22 13:46:18 JaMa: maybe using bitbake (with some convenience aliases) is the way to document Feb 22 13:46:28 and support Feb 22 14:11:51 mrmoku: agreed as it would be closer to "normal OE" Feb 22 14:12:21 JaMa: yup, and IIRC oe devels always disliked the makefile approach :) Feb 22 14:13:05 JaMa: how do we do oe regarding different branches for testing and unstable? Feb 22 14:15:00 ? Feb 22 14:18:09 JaMa: I mean... now the makefile is adding two openembedded checkouts Feb 22 14:18:55 nvm. guess there is no sane alternative for that Feb 22 14:19:18 that's not a bit problem imho as long it's using --reference Feb 22 14:22:28 mrmoku: but I think that most people are building just unstable or testing not both, so "make setup-unstable" should be preferred way before just "make setup" Feb 22 14:22:53 yup, agree Feb 22 14:24:05 mrmoku: and "make setup*" should probably work only "outside chroot" and "make update" only after calling shr-chroot.sh Feb 22 14:25:05 mrmoku: because otherwise I'm pretty stuck when trying to make it work properly both ways (like calling make update before going to chroot - maybe with different UID) Feb 22 14:26:11 mrmoku: but then "make update" needs to update chroot from inside chroot :) Feb 22 14:26:32 gtg anyway... Feb 22 14:27:22 hehe, yeah fun Feb 22 16:58:39 I'm just waiting to see Gaddafi die from a heart attack, live in TV. What a friggin clown Feb 22 17:46:55 DocScrutinizer: heh, yeah... friggin clown Feb 22 18:44:19 heyho Feb 22 18:44:26 GNUtoo|laptop: ping Feb 22 18:44:46 morphis, pong Feb 22 18:44:50 or anyone still interested in a pre device for porting SHR: ping Feb 22 18:44:56 yes I am Feb 22 18:45:04 I was wondering about wifi today Feb 22 18:45:17 wifi of palm pre Feb 22 18:45:23 as I'm bugreporting for fixing my wifi issue Feb 22 18:45:27 on ath9k Feb 22 18:47:05 HP|Palm is currently offering free pre2 devices for qualified developers Feb 22 18:47:10 wow Feb 22 18:47:16 I need to apply then? Feb 22 18:47:25 I *need* a palm-pre Feb 22 18:47:58 how is qualified defined? Feb 22 18:48:12 I just wrote to them I now I will get one :) Feb 22 18:48:32 what's the method already? Feb 22 18:48:39 web page, email address etc... Feb 22 18:49:47 ok, it's rather simple Feb 22 18:49:52 you have to write a mail to them Feb 22 18:50:01 the address I will give you in a minute Feb 22 18:50:05 ok Feb 22 18:50:07 I'll do that Feb 22 18:50:08 but Feb 22 18:50:12 tell them what are you doing and why do you need a device Feb 22 18:50:13 should I mention SHR? Feb 22 18:50:19 after some time someone will response Feb 22 18:50:22 yes Feb 22 18:50:22 or should I only tell my skills Feb 22 18:50:24 ok Feb 22 18:50:26 SHR then Feb 22 18:50:42 the projects you are working on are relevant Feb 22 18:50:47 and why do you need the device Feb 22 18:50:50 ok Feb 22 18:50:56 and what I will do with it Feb 22 18:51:03 I wrote just the same as I wrote the first time to get the pre plus Feb 22 18:51:09 ok Feb 22 18:52:04 after someone response you have to tell him where to send the device Feb 22 18:52:14 but be carefull the response time is very high! Feb 22 18:53:26 you mean it take a long time? Feb 22 19:00:09 jepp Feb 22 19:00:15 I waited 5 days for a response Feb 22 19:00:59 ah that's not a problem for me Feb 22 19:03:12 :) Feb 22 19:03:58 devmarketing@palm.com is the address to write to Feb 22 19:04:11 are you interested in my mail I wrote them? Feb 22 19:04:42 btw. look at the blog at developer.palm.com for more informations about the program Feb 22 19:04:47 yes Feb 22 19:04:55 I'm interested about your mail Feb 22 19:05:17 ok Feb 22 19:05:20 whats your email? Feb 22 19:05:47 GNUtoo no-log.org Feb 22 19:05:50 but wait a sec Feb 22 19:05:55 there is a palm-pre 3 Feb 22 19:05:58 that is qualcomm Feb 22 19:06:05 Maybe we should avoid it Feb 22 19:06:34 why? Feb 22 19:06:47 you will get the Pre 2 which is omap3 Feb 22 19:06:52 ok Feb 22 19:07:00 what do you think about the pre3? Feb 22 19:07:14 Qualcomm MSM 8x55 (1.4 GHz) Feb 22 19:07:22 maybe I should look at their alsa driver Feb 22 19:07:22 ? Feb 22 19:07:36 mine is buffer-underrun friendly Feb 22 19:09:17 :) Feb 22 19:09:29 there is no kernel source Feb 22 19:09:34 for the pre 3 until know Feb 22 19:09:38 s/know/now/ Feb 22 19:09:38 morphis meant: for the pre 3 until now Feb 22 19:09:47 ok Feb 22 19:09:51 but I am asking them to get more informations with an NDA or so Feb 22 19:09:52 3 is not out yet? Feb 22 19:09:57 but they already have one MSM device Feb 22 19:10:02 the Pixi/Pixi Plus Feb 22 19:10:02 yes Feb 22 19:10:06 I looked at the source Feb 22 19:10:08 already Feb 22 19:10:09 no, it's not out Feb 22 19:10:36 ah ok Feb 22 19:10:42 so that's why the sources are not out Feb 22 19:10:56 right Feb 22 19:11:12 on the pixi they have a /dev/msm_* node for audio Feb 22 19:11:21 which they use in a pulseaudio plugin Feb 22 19:12:37 mrmoku: ping Feb 22 19:13:10 morphis: pong Feb 22 19:13:32 morphis: want to talk about audio? :) Feb 22 19:13:40 mrmoku: I am currently thinking about redesign the FSO audio API ... correct :) Feb 22 19:13:47 good Feb 22 19:13:58 * morphis thinks we really need a FSOSHRUDCON these year ... Feb 22 19:14:15 oh yes Feb 22 19:14:18 I want a org.freesmartphone.Device.AudioManager Feb 22 19:14:28 hmm Feb 22 19:15:15 I'll eat Feb 22 19:15:18 and then write that mail Feb 22 19:15:26 morphis: what is the job of the AudioManager? Feb 22 19:16:15 GNUtoo|laptop: buon apetito Feb 22 19:16:32 grazie Feb 22 19:19:56 sorry for the unstable gsm connection ... Feb 22 19:20:10 mrmoku: what were the last lines you got from me? Feb 22 19:20:11 GNUtoo|laptop: mail is out Feb 22 19:20:26 GNUtoo|laptop: but I think Palm is doing a good job with the Pre 3 Feb 22 19:20:40 ah? Feb 22 19:21:00 should be better than what you found at android devices out there Feb 22 19:21:02 last time I looked at the sources...with the pixie.... Feb 22 19:21:11 maybe they are using some newer kernel Feb 22 19:21:29 i'll see Feb 22 19:21:32 the pixi and pre had the problem Palm backported msm and omap support to the very old 2.6.24 kernel Feb 22 19:21:58 lol Feb 22 19:22:04 not only Feb 22 19:22:20 :) Feb 22 19:22:20 i looked at alsa driver...and it was worse than mine Feb 22 19:22:27 :) Feb 22 19:22:28 *my version Feb 22 19:22:48 mrmoku: you will have two modes for the AudioManager: Normal and Call Feb 22 19:23:03 Normal do you use in most cases when not doing a GSM call Feb 22 19:23:11 and normal for normal music etc. Feb 22 19:23:25 then you have different audio output you can choose Feb 22 19:23:38 backspeaker, frontspeaker, headset bluetooth sco, bluetooth a2dp Feb 22 19:23:54 not all output are compatible with each mode Feb 22 19:24:15 so a2dp in normal and sco in call Feb 22 19:24:36 then you just set the mode you want with SetMode(AudioMode.NORMAL) Feb 22 19:24:46 and the AudioManager does all the scenario handling Feb 22 19:25:13 then you will have a VolumeChanged signal Feb 22 19:25:31 and the possibility to change min/max levels for volumes for both modes and different output Feb 22 19:25:49 morphis: I (and especially Tasn) want to decide in libphone-ui when to switch to a scenario and someday what ringtone to play Feb 22 19:26:02 morphis: ^^ is what I had started to type... before your connection broke :P Feb 22 19:26:10 ah ok Feb 22 19:26:15 then got distracted by reading ilfattoquotidiano.it ;) Feb 22 19:26:15 but why in libphone-ui? Feb 22 19:26:25 hehe Feb 22 19:26:38 then you have to problem nobody else can use it Feb 22 19:26:48 so maybe qtmoko is switching to fso Feb 22 19:26:59 and they do the audio thing even on their own Feb 22 19:27:07 then you don't need FSO anymore Feb 22 19:27:41 and you even can decide when to switch the "scenario" in libphone-ui with the AudioManager Feb 22 19:27:51 morphis: well, something like SetMode is what I mean Feb 22 19:27:56 but you have to get the abstract way Feb 22 19:27:59 ok Feb 22 19:28:08 don't take scenario verbously Feb 22 19:28:14 :) Feb 22 19:28:20 for example now we have gsmheadset Feb 22 19:28:33 so we are in call mode with output headset Feb 22 19:28:55 the you adjust volume with SetVolume(42) Feb 22 19:28:56 yeah, and then I want to call Mute(MIC) Feb 22 19:29:10 and the manager mutes the mic for the current mode/scenario Feb 22 19:29:16 correct Feb 22 19:29:44 so you can set the volume on the output Feb 22 19:29:50 what about scenario saving? Feb 22 19:29:56 to you envision that automatic? Feb 22 19:30:05 hm Feb 22 19:30:16 should be possible Feb 22 19:30:31 what will we use? Feb 22 19:30:40 ? Feb 22 19:30:41 or pulse Feb 22 19:30:47 for saving? Feb 22 19:30:57 s/or// Feb 22 19:30:57 GNUtoo|htcdream meant: pulse Feb 22 19:31:05 thats up to the implemenation of the interface Feb 22 19:31:08 as audio system Feb 22 19:31:13 ah ok Feb 22 19:31:20 i understand Feb 22 19:31:20 the first one should be the alsa scenario handling Feb 22 19:31:24 ok Feb 22 19:31:27 morphis: maybe SetVolume with an additional parameter to save or not Feb 22 19:31:32 so the user can decide Feb 22 19:31:34 the second one will be the specific one for the palmpre with the audio scripts Feb 22 19:31:59 mrmoku: we can even save the settings internally and then Dump with an extra command Feb 22 19:32:11 or we have a general config file for that Feb 22 19:32:23 /etc/freesmarpthone/audio-scenarios.conf Feb 22 19:32:32 which is used by fsodeviced by default Feb 22 19:35:24 morphis: this is what libphone-ui-shr is doing now: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/342943/ Feb 22 19:35:27 mrmoku: should we save the volume settings by Mode:Output or only by Output Feb 22 19:35:29 ? Feb 22 19:35:45 hmm Feb 22 19:36:15 good question Feb 22 19:36:26 and for now we only have defined the output and whats with the input? Feb 22 19:36:38 how do we differentiate different audio inputs these days? Feb 22 19:37:05 a scenario gives both, no? Feb 22 19:40:08 gsmheadset is call mode + output headset and input headset mic? Feb 22 19:42:17 I would think so Feb 22 19:42:34 ok Feb 22 19:42:52 so we have three different input sources: mic, headset mic and bluetooth mic Feb 22 19:43:02 guys, if you want to test the launcher : http://82.227.130.131/files/elfe-0.0.1.tar.gz Feb 22 19:43:17 (in the end we cannot support all combinations) Feb 22 19:43:21 captainigloo: a launcher? Feb 22 19:43:32 morphis: replacement for illume-home Feb 22 19:43:42 freesmartphone.org: 03mail 07framework * r3d691db83a1f 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/db_handler.py: Feb 22 19:43:42 freesmartphone.org: Revert back Daniele's fixes for limit Feb 22 19:43:42 freesmartphone.org: This fixes my bad removal in commit 5cc3ef0, that removed the fix made by Daniele Ricci in 5e5970b48 Feb 22 19:43:57 captainigloo: wow Feb 22 19:43:58 morphis: yeah, and it does not make sense even Feb 22 19:44:06 mrmoku: ok Feb 22 19:44:14 morphis: http://82.227.130.131/files/elfe_poc_4.ogv Feb 22 19:44:19 for a 'demo' Feb 22 19:44:30 then we should have GetSupportedOutputs and GetSupportedInputs for each mode Feb 22 19:44:46 captainigloo: and a screenshot? as I am currently online with Edge Feb 22 19:46:36 morphis: nope :( Feb 22 19:46:58 mrmoku: would it be much work to port libphone-ui to such a API? Feb 22 19:47:49 captainigloo: sad Feb 22 19:48:19 mrmoku: but should we do mute/unmute/setvoume per Mode:Output/Input combination or only per Output/Input? Feb 22 19:49:24 hm and we still have the problem that the use must know the correct combination of mode:output:input Feb 22 19:49:30 morphis: no, not too much work Feb 22 19:49:34 mrmoku: ok Feb 22 19:49:54 why does the user have to know the correct combination? Feb 22 19:50:20 that is what libphone-ui is abstracting right now Feb 22 19:50:27 for example Normal:Bluetooth SCO:Headset Mic is not supported by the device Feb 22 19:50:59 hm you paste loads ... Feb 22 19:51:19 ah Feb 22 19:52:55 captainigloo: hmm... our toolchain is missing efl... guess I have to build it with OE Feb 22 19:53:06 captainigloo: is there a recipe already in the works? Feb 22 19:53:30 mrmoku: better a IsOutputSupported(AudioMode mode, AudioOutput output) or a GetSupportedOutputs(AudioMode mode)? Feb 22 19:53:53 hmm Feb 22 19:53:56 or should we still rely on supporting all outputs and do nothing when one is not supported? Feb 22 19:53:58 morphis: I dislike supported Feb 22 19:54:03 would prefer Available Feb 22 19:54:13 ok, naming thin Feb 22 19:54:14 g Feb 22 19:54:16 as for example bluetooth might well be supported... but not connected Feb 22 19:54:20 is mickey|zzZZzz still ill? Feb 22 19:54:26 I fear so... Feb 22 19:54:50 morphis: http://82.227.130.131/files/elfe.png Feb 22 19:54:51 hm ok Feb 22 19:54:55 morphis: http://82.227.130.131/files/elfe-2.png Feb 22 19:54:58 so GetAvailableOutputs(mode) Feb 22 19:55:01 morphis: http://82.227.130.131/files/elfe-3.png Feb 22 19:55:09 would be what I prefer Feb 22 19:55:22 hmm Feb 22 19:56:13 mrmoku: I plan to add it to the E svn Feb 22 19:56:25 i can't connect to shr git Feb 22 19:56:37 Heinervdm_: via ssh? Feb 22 19:56:39 and i'll provide a recipe when it will be in Feb 22 19:56:49 captainigloo: ok, great Feb 22 19:56:51 mrmoku: yes Feb 22 19:57:03 * mrmoku tries Feb 22 19:57:16 mrmoku: but http also Feb 22 19:57:36 captainigloo: looks nice Feb 22 19:58:05 0022 mok@gonzales[pts/4]:~/src/openmoko/shr-specs-> git pull Feb 22 19:58:05 Already up-to-date. Feb 22 19:58:11 Heinervdm_: seems to work for me Feb 22 19:58:21 but we really need a illume-home with can provide widgets or so Feb 22 19:58:21 mrmoku: hmm Feb 22 19:58:49 Heinervdm_: git.shr-project.org works too Feb 22 19:58:56 (the gitweb) Feb 22 19:59:06 strange Feb 22 19:59:08 * mrmoku tries to clone something Feb 22 19:59:13 captainigloo: or you can add illume modules to the launcher? Feb 22 19:59:32 0022 mok@gonzales[pts/4]:/tmp-> git clone ssh://git@git.shr-project.org/shr-makefile.git Feb 22 19:59:35 Cloning into shr-makefile... Feb 22 19:59:38 remote: Counting objects: 306, done. Feb 22 19:59:40 remote: Compressing objects: 100% (223/223), done. Feb 22 19:59:43 remote: Total 306 (delta 98), reused 284 (delta 76) Feb 22 19:59:45 Receiving objects: 100% (306/306), 50.82 KiB, done. Feb 22 19:59:48 Resolving deltas: 100% (98/98), done. Feb 22 19:59:50 Heinervdm_: all fine Feb 22 20:00:42 mrmoku: from my office it's working too Feb 22 20:01:03 it seems that the telekom is having some problems Feb 22 20:01:08 morphis: yes you can Feb 22 20:01:23 captainigloo: great Feb 22 20:01:31 I want to have it :) Feb 22 20:01:31 Heinervdm_: ohh... telekom... don't do that ;) Feb 22 20:02:03 mrmoku: in most cases it's the less complicated way ;) Feb 22 20:02:19 captainigloo: how do you switch to next virtual desktop? Feb 22 20:02:24 now it's working again Feb 22 20:03:36 morphis: i don't use E virtual desktop Feb 22 20:03:50 but i'm using elementary and scrollers to display icons and modules Feb 22 20:04:04 currently you can have 5 different desktops Feb 22 20:04:13 well 5 scroller pages Feb 22 20:04:28 ah ok Feb 22 20:04:34 and how do you switch? Feb 22 20:04:42 would be nice to have some gesture for that Feb 22 20:05:28 you just scroll with finger Feb 22 20:05:52 if you could see the video :) Feb 22 20:06:31 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jcrSqCiNGo a previous version Feb 22 20:07:23 so I am getting a Pre 2 device :) Feb 22 20:08:56 GNUtoo|htcdream: lets go to request a device too :) Feb 22 20:13:21 mrmoku: whats the IDLE state in libphoneui for? Feb 22 20:14:42 mrmoku: we can even take the current API of libphoneui-sound and put it into the audiomanager Feb 22 20:14:52 morphis, back Feb 22 20:15:05 GNUtoo|htcdream: :) Feb 22 20:15:24 GNUtoo|laptop: read lines above Feb 22 20:17:13 which ones? Feb 22 20:17:19 captainigloo: wow again Feb 22 20:17:50 so I am getting a Pre 2 device :) Feb 22 20:17:52 GNUtoo|htcdream: lets go to request a device too :) Feb 22 20:18:05 all of them? Feb 22 20:18:05 I read most of them Feb 22 20:18:28 the two lines about the Pre 2 Feb 22 20:18:52 captainigloo: when you will add it to e svn? Feb 22 20:18:56 in the comming days? Feb 22 20:19:09 morphis: IDLE is what you call NORMAL Feb 22 20:19:45 and speaker? Feb 22 20:20:04 * mrmoku takes a look Feb 22 20:21:06 morphis: speaker is the speaker turned on in a call Feb 22 20:21:58 and why do you have then three sound states: CALL, IDLE and SPEAKER? Feb 22 20:22:14 as CALL and SPEAKER are both for "call mode" Feb 22 20:23:14 because we're scenario centric Feb 22 20:23:39 ok Feb 22 20:24:17 morphis: i'm writting the mail for the E ML to introduce it Feb 22 20:24:33 captainigloo: great Feb 22 20:24:49 as I want to see it in SHR as far as possible Feb 22 20:25:02 next week I will go to cebit and it would be really nice if I can show it there Feb 22 20:25:09 on the Palm Pre device Feb 22 20:26:21 mrmoku: what exactly was broken on options hover? Feb 22 20:26:38 JaMa|Off: the shadowing out of the rest of the window Feb 22 20:27:03 JaMa|Off: if you can toggle the hover by pressing the options button twice it should be fixed Feb 22 20:28:22 morphis: yes it could be awesome Feb 22 20:28:48 :) Feb 22 20:28:51 morphis, ok I'll write the mail this night Feb 22 20:28:51 very soon Feb 22 20:28:51 I'd like to finish a kernel patch Feb 22 20:28:51 for tracing the RIL Feb 22 20:28:51 done correctly this time Feb 22 20:29:14 the RIL? from android? Feb 22 20:29:23 captainigloo: great work with your poc elfe Feb 22 20:29:49 morphis: what's the screen resolution of your palm pre ? Feb 22 20:30:49 320x528 Feb 22 20:31:35 mrmoku: then yes, fixed, first click shadows all, when one of those 3 options is used or Options clicked again it unshadows window Feb 22 20:34:40 JaMa|Off: in contacts? Feb 22 20:41:40 mrmoku: sth is wrong with my internet connection, can you build new iliwi for testing? Feb 22 20:42:44 Lopi: thanks Feb 22 20:44:12 Heinervdm_: just build? or make update too? Feb 22 20:44:20 mrmoku: update too Feb 22 20:44:30 ok Feb 22 20:48:20 Heinervdm_: you did not bump PR... is that ok? Feb 22 20:48:43 I mean was it built already before? Or did it not build with that vala patch? Feb 22 20:49:53 mrmoku: i pushed the last 2 patches at the same time Feb 22 20:50:34 morphis: i have some problem with your resolution, but i will fix them Feb 22 20:50:34 it's just to detect wich desktop is currently displayed Feb 22 20:50:36 should be easy to fix Feb 22 20:50:49 captainigloo: ok Feb 22 20:50:50 Heinervdm_: ok, building then Feb 22 20:50:56 mrmoku: thx Feb 22 20:51:16 yw Feb 22 20:51:17 captainigloo: would be nice to have it before this weekend as I want to prepare the device then Feb 22 20:55:18 so I am off Feb 22 20:55:19 bye Feb 22 21:16:42 hmmm Feb 22 21:16:46 where is morphis? Feb 22 21:18:39 * [Rui] waves ho Feb 22 21:22:09 * mrmoku waves back to [Rui] Feb 22 21:22:24 GNUtoo|laptop: morphis left Feb 22 21:22:28 <[Rui]> mrmoku: now I'm getting more of a hang of it, I want to add a mute button. Feb 22 21:22:36 ah ok Feb 22 21:22:41 after this telia issue Feb 22 21:22:44 I don't see him Feb 22 21:22:50 [Rui]: hehe... believe it or not... I wanted too :P Feb 22 21:23:01 did not really start yet though Feb 22 21:23:15 <[Rui]> mrmoku: any idea why the ring tone goes on for a long while after I reject a call? Feb 22 21:23:44 [Rui]: ringtone is still handled by oeventsd Feb 22 21:23:48 it goes like this: Feb 22 21:23:52 a) you press reject Feb 22 21:24:04 b) fsogsmd quits the call Feb 22 21:24:16 c) oeventsd get's the call state signal and stops the ringtone Feb 22 21:24:22 probably too slow :P Feb 22 21:24:41 <[Rui]> can't b) and c) be done assynchronously? Feb 22 21:24:53 <[Rui]> I'm guessing b) is what takes longest... Feb 22 21:25:17 [Rui]: the plan is to eliminate oeventsd Feb 22 21:25:54 so the thing would be to tell fsogsmd to hangup and fsodeviced to stop playing the ringtone simultaneously Feb 22 21:26:04 <[Rui]> ok Feb 22 21:45:17 hey guys Feb 22 21:45:25 mrmoku, did you see the elfe thingie? Feb 22 21:45:28 looks pretty awesome :P Feb 22 21:50:50 TAsn, yeah, it rocks :D I'll try it later into the exopcslate table :P Feb 22 21:51:02 GNUtoo|laptop, is the unwind speedup already in feeds? Feb 22 21:51:20 * pespin writing blog entry Feb 22 21:51:44 pespin, yeah? it's fast? Feb 22 21:52:18 TAsn, elfe? only saw it in video ;) Feb 22 21:52:54 oh, lol. Feb 22 21:53:30 TAsn, that's why I said I """will""" try it """later""" :P Feb 22 21:53:44 :) Feb 22 21:53:50 I thought you already tried it on your fr Feb 22 21:53:55 and will try it later on the tablet Feb 22 21:54:34 TAsn, nopes, we don't have bitbake recipe for it... big thing about tablet is that I have a complete build of EFL there using archlinux (it's intel atom N450) Feb 22 21:54:52 so it will be easy to compile hehe Feb 22 21:55:38 pespin, no idea Feb 22 21:55:47 ask mrmoku Feb 22 21:56:37 TAsn: I even tried to build it on the device directly :P Feb 22 21:56:41 (and failed :/) Feb 22 21:57:01 pespin: yup in the feed Feb 22 21:57:41 GNUtoo|laptop: one question... you said you're trying to get smartreflex going... with which kernel? Feb 22 21:57:59 mrmoku, ok Feb 22 21:58:34 mrmoku, there is smartreflex already but not cpufreq Feb 22 21:58:45 GNUtoo|laptop: but not in the nokia kernel Feb 22 21:58:49 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Nokia900_Kernels Feb 22 21:58:56 let me load it Feb 22 21:59:05 because of the telia issue it's slow Feb 22 21:59:26 telia having problems? Feb 22 21:59:38 yes Feb 22 22:00:05 and they own a lot of european routers it seems Feb 22 22:00:19 that might explain HeinervdmOff's problems too :P Feb 22 22:00:30 Feb 22 21:49:52 GNUtoo|laptop: telia went down, they're running the biggest routers in europe Feb 22 22:00:36 in #freenode Feb 22 22:00:43 ok Feb 22 22:02:45 because of that Feb 22 22:02:47 hmm... what packages are needed to build on the device? Feb 22 22:02:48 I'm waiting for tomorrow to send the mail to palm Feb 22 22:03:03 I installed gcc + gcc-symlinks Feb 22 22:04:25 okayyy Feb 22 22:04:25 too slow Feb 22 22:04:25 I'll look in git Feb 22 22:04:34 remotes/fso/nokia900/dvfs_rebase_wip+sound_revert Feb 22 22:04:40 build on the device? Feb 22 22:04:41 hmm... binutils Feb 22 22:04:44 the kenrel? Feb 22 22:04:44 no idea Feb 22 22:04:48 no Feb 22 22:04:50 elfe :) Feb 22 22:05:51 or is it for PaulFertser or DocScrutinizer Feb 22 22:05:56 hmm Feb 22 22:05:58 still Feb 22 22:05:58 configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables Feb 22 22:06:09 GNUtoo|laptop: no for me to see elfe on gta02... now :P Feb 22 22:06:17 eh? Feb 22 22:06:22 my gta02 tmp is not populated Feb 22 22:06:55 mrmoku, why don't you hack up a recipe you lazy bastard? Feb 22 22:07:10 TAsn: because my oe tmp for gta02 is empy ;) Feb 22 22:07:14 +t Feb 22 22:07:14 lol look at config.log Feb 22 22:07:16 ok Feb 22 22:07:40 :| Feb 22 22:07:55 conftest.c:16:1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault Feb 22 22:08:41 TAsn: installing elementary-dev pulled 1001 -dev packages on my device :P Feb 22 22:08:42 nota bene SmartReflex has been disabled in maemo up to PR1.2, allegedly due to stability issues Feb 22 22:08:50 (including stuff like gnome-common) Feb 22 22:09:00 on N900, obviously Feb 22 22:09:00 fun fun fun Feb 22 22:09:15 DocScrutinizer: that is interesting Feb 22 22:09:18 GNUtoo|oeee: I fail to see why you highlighted me Feb 22 22:09:26 anyhow, now with [Rui]'s softkey Feb 22 22:09:28 and this Feb 22 22:09:30 <[Rui]> what's that elfe thing? Feb 22 22:09:35 everything is *WAY* cooler Feb 22 22:09:38 [Rui], look at e-devel Feb 22 22:09:42 <[Rui]> TAsn: my softkey changes helped something? Feb 22 22:09:43 captainigloo wrote it Feb 22 22:09:49 <[Rui]> TAsn: haven't looked at email yet Feb 22 22:09:52 [Rui], yes, they look nicer. Feb 22 22:09:53 [Rui]: http://82.227.130.131/files/elfe_poc_4.ogv Feb 22 22:10:04 DocScrutinizer, didn't you want to compile on nokia900? or was it PaulFertser Feb 22 22:10:12 GNUtoo|laptop: it was PaulFertser Feb 22 22:10:13 nah, not me Feb 22 22:10:19 ok Feb 22 22:10:59 <[Rui]> TAsn: would look nicer if the close button could close the task list... for some reason it can't :) Feb 22 22:11:04 ;P Feb 22 22:11:06 <[Rui]> mrmoku: thanks, downloading Feb 22 22:11:58 ok sorry then Feb 22 22:12:20 the problem is that you can't talk about somenoe without highlighting him Feb 22 22:12:23 [Rui]: better one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKlDgl-Tquw Feb 22 22:12:41 <[Rui]> captainigloo: how can that be better than ogv? :) Feb 22 22:13:08 <[Rui]> captainigloo: ah elfe is your new desktop for touchscreen, congrats, video looks nice :) Feb 22 22:13:27 <[Rui]> captainigloo: still wonder how much it drags on the freerunner though (hope it's usable) Feb 22 22:13:35 me too Feb 22 22:14:09 <[Rui]> for now I gotta try new ephoto (okra assures me he speeded it up a lot) Feb 22 22:14:36 <[Rui]> captainigloo: advice: don't use that background by default Feb 22 22:14:43 ha Feb 22 22:14:43 nice Feb 22 22:14:43 make a recipe? Feb 22 22:14:43 even a quick one? Feb 22 22:14:44 or is it for captainigloo Feb 22 22:14:44 ok Feb 22 22:14:44 yep, i saw his commits Feb 22 22:14:58 http://blog.shr-project.org/2011/02/shr-will-rock-you.html Feb 22 22:15:15 <[Rui]> captainigloo: it's nice but it would be better if it were blurred Feb 22 22:15:33 [Rui]: the background can be changed, it's a E bg Feb 22 22:15:40 <[Rui]> captainigloo: ok! Feb 22 22:16:33 if it were blurred ? Feb 22 22:16:37 the background ? Feb 22 22:17:00 guess I will have to write a recipe tomorrow and populate my gta02 build then ;) Feb 22 22:17:20 now it's time to sleep Feb 22 22:17:27 gnight all Feb 22 22:17:40 TAsn, "everything" will be way cooler once it can be used together with illume kb :P (word j/k) Feb 22 22:17:53 <[Rui]> captainigloo: yes :) if it were blurred it would be softer and not a epileptic attack trap Feb 22 22:18:05 pespin, s/nou/now in the blog Feb 22 22:18:11 [Rui]: dunno it's for the demo effect ;) Feb 22 22:18:16 <[Rui]> hehe Feb 22 22:18:35 pespin, hehe. Feb 22 22:18:40 pespin, everything with a voice recon support Feb 22 22:18:43 will be awesome ;P Feb 22 22:18:49 lol, indeed Feb 22 22:19:06 but I'd be happy just with illume kb support Feb 22 22:19:25 nah ;P Feb 22 22:19:25 TAsn, have you tried it in fr? when you press the kb, enjoy closes itself u.u Feb 22 22:19:31 just a question, the E battery module is working for you ? Feb 22 22:19:33 I ain't gonna try Feb 22 22:19:50 i mean on real phones Feb 22 22:19:56 TAsn, no need, you jsut spank necessary people :P Feb 22 22:20:04 to make it working! :) Feb 22 22:20:20 haha Feb 22 22:20:24 captainigloo, it works in all devices I have Feb 22 22:20:37 pespin: ok Feb 22 22:20:44 works on the gta02 Feb 22 22:20:48 captainigloo, e battery doesn't work for me Feb 22 22:20:49 but not on the smartqv7 :P Feb 22 22:20:51 htcdream Feb 22 22:20:59 yep ok Feb 22 22:20:59 htcartemis, om-gta02, exopc slate, asus eeepc, intel i5 :) Feb 22 22:21:00 and nokia900 Feb 22 22:21:01 but that's only because no one added support. Feb 22 22:21:09 not working Feb 22 22:21:19 but baterry monitorring is wokring on the lock screen Feb 22 22:21:21 because we use /sys/class/battery for theses devices Feb 22 22:21:34 instead of /proc/apm Feb 22 22:21:42 hum ok Feb 22 22:21:43 yes because that uses fso as backend Feb 22 22:21:45 captainigloo, cause that uses fso (I think) Feb 22 22:21:46 GNUtoo|oeee, captainigloo did you try changing the source in E wrench? Feb 22 22:21:58 of course Feb 22 22:21:59 pespin: no Feb 22 22:22:07 didn't work either Feb 22 22:22:16 captainigloo, try setting it to internal. Feb 22 22:22:29 * pespin bbl Feb 22 22:24:15 pespin: doesn't work either Feb 22 22:24:18 won't work Feb 22 22:24:22 night all. Feb 22 22:24:28 night Feb 22 22:24:49 anyway not sure if captainigloo has udev Feb 22 22:24:50 bye Feb 22 22:24:52 good night Feb 22 22:25:49 i need to sleep a bit also Feb 22 22:25:51 good night Feb 22 22:26:37 me too Feb 22 22:26:40 bye Feb 22 22:58:29 <[Rui]> mrmoku: now I got a non working mute button :) Feb 22 23:06:07 shr blog says there is RC3 of shr-t. is that at http://build.shr-project.org/tests/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ Feb 22 23:07:31 ssam, yes, this should be it Feb 22 23:08:36 thanks Feb 22 23:08:50 yw Feb 22 23:30:39 <[Rui]> ouch why are fso C apis using free_smartphone_* and not fso_*? :) Feb 22 23:43:47 <[Rui]> mickey|zzZZzz: when you get back... if I want to only silent the ringtone, what function should I call? Feb 23 00:38:19 [Rui], while playing? Feb 23 00:39:57 [Rui], http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.html;hb=HEAD#StopSound Feb 23 00:40:15 or set the volume to 0 Feb 23 01:17:54 anybody visiting embedded world Nuernberg Mar 1-3 ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 23 02:59:56 2011