**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 01 02:59:57 2011 Mar 01 06:19:23 moin Mar 01 06:23:15 moin Mar 01 06:27:43 JaMa|Off: HeinervdmOff said the config for testing on the buildhost is broken Mar 01 06:31:19 yup, seen that on buildhost, checking Mar 01 06:35:54 ok, thanks :) Mar 01 06:49:16 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-makefile * r0b997d7a245a 10/setup-env: setup-env: export DISTRO/MACHINE and show it in message Mar 01 06:50:14 mrmoku: fixed :) Mar 01 06:51:08 :) Mar 01 06:51:13 HeinervdmOff: ^ Mar 01 06:52:37 also building that efreet there Mar 01 07:23:26 mrmoku: btw.. that gta01 report is from shr-t with 2.6.29 kernel.. so maybe debuging it there is not worth it Mar 01 07:23:54 ahh Mar 01 07:24:16 have not realized that part :/ Mar 01 07:24:50 I've realized it when he said it booted :/ Mar 01 07:26:47 JaMa|Off: so shr-u does not even boot? Mar 01 07:27:02 I thought PaulFertser and larsc fixed that stuff... Mar 01 07:33:36 mrmoku: yes and it's maybe something in our defconfig Mar 01 07:34:38 mrmoku: and he tried shr-u, it's reported in "[Shr-User] Neo 1973 - GTA01BV4 - Unstable Image doesn.t start" Mar 01 07:35:13 ouch :p Mar 01 07:36:09 buenas dias pespin Mar 01 07:36:39 mrmoku, buenos dias! Mar 01 07:37:05 I'm sorry I can only say kartoffen in german xD Mar 01 07:37:43 don't worry Mar 01 07:38:02 hehe :) Mar 01 07:38:13 tres niñas i tambien un pero Mar 01 07:38:22 lol Mar 01 07:38:31 is the only thing I remember :P Mar 01 07:39:16 omg univ classes about UML are so boring u.u Mar 01 07:40:32 JaMa|Off, did you see the patches I sent to ml? Mar 01 07:41:25 yes and also replied Mar 01 07:41:29 did you see reply? :) Mar 01 07:41:49 nop, I looked at it when I woke up and didn't see response, going to read it now :) Mar 01 07:41:54 or do you mean on OE ML? Mar 01 07:42:23 JaMa|Off, nop, on SHR. Mar 01 07:42:33 ok, I'll sent it to OE Mar 01 07:42:42 JaMa|Off, I still have a problem though Mar 01 07:43:03 JaMa|Off, the i686 feed conf file in /etc/opkg doesn't come with the image. Mar 01 07:43:11 and I hace to add it manually Mar 01 07:43:14 *have Mar 01 07:43:31 any idea on what can be wrong? Mar 01 07:43:44 which image are you building? Mar 01 07:43:59 I get i386,i486,i586,x85,all,exopcslate feeds, but no i686 (most packages are i686) Mar 01 07:44:02 JaMa|Off, shr-unstable Mar 01 07:44:22 pespin: that's not image :) Mar 01 07:44:39 pespin: and any chance you played with ONLINE_PACKAGE_MANAGEMENT variable? Mar 01 07:44:52 ah.. sorry Mar 01 07:44:58 so only i686.conf is missing? Mar 01 07:45:14 yes to .conf, no to ONLINE_... var ;) Mar 01 07:45:34 well, afair I didn't play with it hehe Mar 01 07:46:20 try bitbake -e shr-image | tee log; and then check what is in PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS Mar 01 07:46:56 or PACKAGE_ARCHS then Mar 01 07:48:32 or you can also check rootfs_ipk_insert_feed_uris function in do_rootfs (in shr-image workdir) Mar 01 07:48:43 ok, I'll try this evening / tomorrow., thanks Mar 01 07:49:23 mrmoku: i did nothing, larsc did, and he fixed it all in the "mainlining" repo. Mar 01 07:50:10 PaulFertser: you've been serving as remote console :) Mar 01 07:54:34 and om-for-upstream is based on 2.6.38-rc4 so I'm looking forward to see om-2.6.38 Mar 01 09:03:26 I have SHR unstable which has 2.6.34, not very up-to-date Mar 01 09:04:34 you can install 2.6.37 if you want and don't need telephony Mar 01 09:06:14 kernel-2.6.34.8 - 2.6.34.8-oe17-r7-oe17.6 - Linux Kernel Mar 01 09:06:20 no other is available Mar 01 09:07:12 or an older one Mar 01 09:07:55 http://pastebin.com/04iAXk4K <-- opkg update Mar 01 09:08:24 rhaeder: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-kms/ Mar 01 09:10:11 do I need to flash? Mar 01 09:12:36 you need to read that page first Mar 01 09:15:19 and I'll say it once again: gsm wont work with that 2.6.37 kernel Mar 01 09:15:58 wget http://build.shr-project.org/shr-kms/modules-2.6.37-r3-oe1-om-gta02.tgz -O - | tar xz :) Mar 01 09:16:06 ok Mar 01 09:20:36 have you read the other om channel as well? I have trouble with a crashing phoneuid :( Mar 01 09:21:57 no I don't read #openmoko if that's what you mean Mar 01 09:22:13 http://pastebin.com/Gd65zkB8 <-- gdb output Mar 01 09:22:51 playya: ping! juergbi ist in review-stimmung :) siehe bug #604827 Mar 01 09:23:11 http://pastebin.com/SFuMGJcg <-- last strace lines Mar 01 09:23:52 http://pastebin.com/qF4Kteiw <-- and full one (above one uses -s9999, this one uses default) Mar 01 09:24:41 mickey|office: review-Stimmung sounds like a good thing :-) Mar 01 09:24:54 rhaeder: did you do the fsck? Mar 01 09:25:41 mrmoku, not yet. how can I do? the filesystem is now mounted Mar 01 09:25:59 rhaeder: is it on flash or sd? Mar 01 09:26:08 flash Mar 01 09:26:20 do you have something bootable on sd too? Mar 01 09:26:21 sd is my mircoSD card? Mar 01 09:26:24 yup Mar 01 09:26:28 no, nothing Mar 01 09:26:42 /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/card type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=continue,data=writeback) Mar 01 09:26:47 that is my card Mar 01 09:27:33 hmm... for flash I don't know how to check that actually... Mar 01 09:28:23 I assume it is fine (because it is booting) Mar 01 09:28:38 mrmoku: is libphone-ui-config mandatory? Mar 01 09:28:38 so can you give me your libphoneuid.conf file? Mar 01 09:28:50 JaMa|Off: let me check the code... Mar 01 09:29:03 cause open("/etc/libphoneui.conf", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) Mar 01 09:29:26 JaMa: I have no such package here Mar 01 09:29:48 only phoneuid, -dev and -dbg Mar 01 09:30:16 JaMa|Off: yeah, sure it is... in there is configured which backends to use for the views Mar 01 09:30:44 rhaeder: opkg -force-reinstall libphone-ui0 Mar 01 09:30:51 err... +install Mar 01 09:31:04 opkg -force-reinstall install libphone-ui0 Mar 01 09:31:50 rhaeder: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/346210/ Mar 01 09:32:25 it still doesn't install /etc/libphoneui.conf :( Mar 01 09:33:14 mrmoku: then why don't add ${PN}-config to libphone-ui RDEPENDS? instead of http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=4a3d4fad8156a201cfef3f544c313587fbcc4ac6 Mar 01 09:33:48 ls -l /sys/class/leds/gta02\::vibrator/brightness <-- that file is here Mar 01 09:33:54 you use gta01 in your config Mar 01 09:35:27 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/346218/ Mar 01 09:35:41 JaMa|Off: oh, right. I oversaw that in morphis' patch :/ Mar 01 09:35:45 mrmoku: hehe Mar 01 09:35:53 mrmoku: ok, I'll fix that Mar 01 09:36:04 thx Mar 01 09:36:06 mrmoku: yeah, today he pushed a patch that i have been pestering for like 1 year or so Mar 01 09:36:20 :) Mar 01 09:36:30 "gut Ding will Weile haben" ;) Mar 01 09:36:48 no longer "Abort" Mar 01 09:36:51 btw., yesterday nite i finally got the modem to camp the network after long trying Mar 01 09:36:53 I better reboot it Mar 01 09:37:14 mickey|office: oh, great Mar 01 09:37:18 apparantly there's a timing issue and you need to do things in a certain sequence else the modem will fallback to RF_INACTIVE Mar 01 09:37:26 will get there Mar 01 09:37:45 first attempt with commented-in vibrator and backlight :) Mar 01 09:41:49 hmmm, as usual, the 'startup' screen is slow :( Mar 01 09:41:58 and I (Quix0r) miss my bug ticket in trac Mar 01 09:43:51 okay, "Enter PIN" dialog is coming up again :) Mar 01 09:44:38 in /etc/phoneuid.conf, I set DEBUG. is there also DEBUG2 available? Mar 01 09:45:52 no Mar 01 09:48:30 ok Mar 01 09:48:37 SRC: "%CPHS=1" -> [ "+CME ERROR: 22" ] Mar 01 09:48:58 I have this after entering my PIN Mar 01 09:52:56 ah, ticket found: http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1293 Mar 01 09:57:53 I'm about to make a bug ticket: libphone-ui0 should install/update /etc/libphoneuid.conf ? Mar 01 09:58:03 -d Mar 01 10:04:39 http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1298 Mar 01 10:07:03 I rewired that spam ticket #1297 to trac admin so he/she can delete it Mar 01 10:12:49 rhaeder: #1297 is long closed as spam Mar 01 10:12:53 no way to delete tickets Mar 01 10:13:08 * JaMa|Off finally fixed cvs in shr-chroot 32bit Mar 01 10:13:12 even no admin can do that? Mar 01 10:14:37 no Mar 01 10:15:28 I added the resolution 'spam' for those Mar 01 10:16:53 ok :) Mar 01 10:17:01 and CellHunter is badly broken: http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1299 Mar 01 10:19:21 you can't edit the ticket text? Mar 01 10:19:35 I mean, they still got their spam-webpage linked Mar 01 10:27:57 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * ra04490d460db 10/ (1157 files in 104 dirs): system upgrade, fix cvs ebuild Mar 01 10:30:19 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r89760310e02f 10/ (12 files in 4 dirs): bitbake upgrade Mar 01 10:30:44 rhaeder: no, can't edit :/ Mar 01 10:31:02 :( Mar 01 10:31:13 or what about some captcha? Mar 01 10:38:41 mrmoku: pity that we have python-2.5 (not enough for bitbake-1.12) on buildhost and also no access to root (to use shr-chroot there) Mar 01 10:41:35 mrmoku, spam isn't a good resolution, WONTBUY, WONTSENDMYCOORDINATES, WONTTRASNFERMONEY are better no? (just joking) Mar 01 10:42:32 GNUtoo|laptop: today I wake up soon enough to catch khem still online and the result http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/937/ Mar 01 10:42:56 JaMa|Off, thanks a lot Mar 01 10:43:00 yw Mar 01 10:45:02 GNUtoo|laptop: :P Mar 01 10:45:09 JaMa|Off: yeah... Mar 01 10:45:57 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r8c3bd30c75b7 10/ (1119 files in 94 dirs): system upgrade, cvs ebuild fix Mar 01 11:06:12 mrmoku: JaMa|Off: after todays upgrade i cannot call from gta02 Mar 01 11:06:23 2011.03.01 14:03:35.846635 [libphone-ui] MESSAGE: Inititating a USSD request *100# Mar 01 11:06:23 2011.03.01 14:03:36.366607 [libphone-ui] MESSAGE: Inititating a USSD request *100# Mar 01 11:06:23 2011.03.01 14:03:36.726557 [libphone-ui] MESSAGE: Inititating a USSD request *100# Mar 01 11:06:30 2011.03.01 14:04:01.411313 [libphone-ui-shr] WARNING: Cannot initiate call: (24) Timeout was reached Mar 01 11:06:32 2011.03.01 14:04:01.771363 [libphone-ui-shr] WARNING: Cannot initiate call: (24) Timeout was reached Mar 01 11:06:34 2011.03.01 14:04:02.112560 [libphone-ui-shr] WARNING: Cannot initiate call: (24) Timeout was reached Mar 01 11:06:36 2011.03.01 14:04:02.341383 [libphone-ui-shr] WARNING: Cannot initiate call: (24) Timeout was reached Mar 01 11:13:44 * mrmoku switches on his FR and upgrades Mar 01 11:22:32 maybe related to this? http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=commit;h=4a3b3fbce8b3507f77f0d59c268b47e56ac576e2 Mar 01 11:23:32 hmm that's not in shr-u yet afaik Mar 01 11:31:06 Upgrading fsogsmd on root from 1:0.5.0+gitr868+97d25ab71816be21b8d46be71f4a90f3f5707d8c-r5.0.6 to 1:0.5.0+gitr869+8e66f7e5cecfb4bd6b655645770a2b87e12cd607-r5.0.6... Mar 01 11:33:08 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * reeb1f94f94ba 10/.gitignore: gitignore: ignore whole OE directory Mar 01 11:37:40 this one is invalid, isn't it? http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1261 Mar 01 11:38:34 and this should be fixed by JaMa's last commit to OE http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1298 Mar 01 11:38:58 HeinervdmOff: yes Mar 01 11:39:28 JaMa|Off: what Mar 01 11:39:39 's with these paths for vibrator? Mar 01 11:39:40 HeinervdmOff: #1298 fixed, should I update it? Mar 01 11:39:41 HeinervdmOff: (1261) do we have a fixed u-boot in our feed? probably yes, then close it Mar 01 11:40:03 mrmoku: i'm not sure Mar 01 11:40:11 JaMa|Off: yes please Mar 01 11:40:15 mrmoku: you broke initscripts-shr in interesting way :) Mar 01 11:40:26 really? Mar 01 11:40:46 just missing quote, but bitbake error looked quite strange Mar 01 11:41:34 hmm, I built it though Mar 01 11:41:53 mrmoku: it's built only with image (not task-* Mar 01 11:41:53 what arch did I break? Mar 01 11:41:56 gta Mar 01 11:42:28 I built it directly (includimg clean) Mar 01 11:43:41 hmm Mar 01 11:43:48 sorry :) Mar 01 11:45:41 mrmoku: no problem, what is "request_message_receipt" in libphoneui.conf? Mar 01 11:46:26 mrmoku: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/346275/ Mar 01 11:46:36 mrmoku: this is from #1298 Mar 01 11:47:10 JaMa|Off: if you want to request a receipt from the smc when sending a sms Mar 01 11:47:30 so it should be there for current libphone-ui, right? Mar 01 11:47:49 yup Mar 01 11:47:55 can you test it, if it doesn't segfault anymore? Mar 01 11:48:01 my FR seems off :/ Mar 01 11:48:14 shouldn't be a problem if not though Mar 01 11:48:15 and btw, why those configs are not in git repo? Mar 01 11:48:45 like now frameworkd configs are Mar 01 11:49:55 JaMa|Off: morphis needs a different one for the pre Mar 01 11:50:10 in git repo there's just an example config Mar 01 11:51:09 why not "sample" for every supported device in libphone-ui repo and then recipe using machine-specific one if available? Mar 01 11:51:37 that would be a possibility too Mar 01 11:51:47 alexxy: opkg install libphone-ui-config Mar 01 11:51:54 just asking, because now when you add new config option, you have to push changed config to OE, because shr-autorev will pick new functionality immediatelly Mar 01 11:51:59 mrmoku: ok =) Mar 01 11:52:13 but shouldnt it be installed by default? Mar 01 11:52:18 * mrmoku reboots to see if it works and goes down for lunch Mar 01 11:52:20 alexxy: sure Mar 01 11:52:23 missing dep Mar 01 11:52:37 mrmoku: with configs in repo it whould install right config for right version Mar 01 11:52:48 alexxy: it will be if you opkg update & upgrade now Mar 01 11:53:05 opkg install libphone-ui-config Mar 01 11:53:05 Package libphone-ui-config (0.0.1+gitr317+304538f6296b1da8390783d9c2a2f83435599e70-r1.6) installed in root is up to date. Mar 01 11:53:06 =) Mar 01 11:53:29 so its here Mar 01 11:53:58 alexxy: opkt files libphone-ui-config Mar 01 11:54:03 s/opkt/opkg/ Mar 01 11:54:04 JaMa|Off meant: alexxy: opkg files libphone-ui-config Mar 01 11:55:08 Package libphone-ui-config (0.0.1+gitr317+304538f6296b1da8390783d9c2a2f83435599e70-r2.6) is installed on root and has the following files: Mar 01 11:55:08 /etc/libphoneui.conf Mar 01 11:56:06 and its contents are the same as it was before Mar 01 12:02:04 mrmoku: can I move them to repo? Mar 01 12:02:14 mrmoku: I already have patch :) Mar 01 12:05:38 JaMa|Off: mrmoku: so any ideas how to fix it? Mar 01 12:08:17 JaMa|Off: sure Mar 01 12:09:43 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07libphone-ui * r5567443a4859 10/conf/ (4 files in 3 dirs): conf: return libphoneui.conf and add machine-specific configs Mar 01 12:19:15 alexxy: /etc/init.d/phonefsod stop; killall fsogsmd; /etc/init.d/phonefsod start makes the PIN dialog popup for me Mar 01 12:19:19 examining.... Mar 01 12:19:39 mrmoku: ?? Mar 01 12:20:10 * mrmoku reboots again Mar 01 14:52:57 SHR: 03lukasmaerdian 07libphone-ui-shr * rccb9c3c5ef45 10/src/view/idle-view.c: idle_screen: code cleanup Mar 01 14:52:59 SHR: 03lukasmaerdian 07libphone-ui-shr * rd9c022ac95b1 10/data/idle_screen/idle_screen.edc: idle_screen: little correction to the edje theme Mar 01 14:53:06 SHR: 03lukasmaerdian 07libphone-ui-shr * r522919a897ce 10/data/idle_screen/idle_screen.edc: idle_screen: code cleanup Mar 01 15:26:40 SHR: 03mok 07phonefsod * r5726f8b7a42e 10/src/phonefsod-dbus.c: don't reset sim_auth_needed if showing the pin dialog failed Mar 01 15:28:30 JaMa: hmm... done means it's done? Mar 01 15:30:15 ahh no Mar 01 15:30:16 ERROR: '[]' RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS or otherwise requires the runtime entity 'libnl' but it wasn't found in any PACKAGE or RPROVIDES variables Mar 01 15:30:22 was just hanging Mar 01 16:03:00 mrmoku: buildhost? Mar 01 16:03:59 JaMa: yup Mar 01 16:04:13 * mrmoku wanted to build fixed phonefsod Mar 01 16:04:17 mrmoku: btw if you're stuglling with multimachine builds then read http://wiki.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR#BuildingSHRforotherdevices Mar 01 16:05:00 JaMa: interesting Mar 01 16:05:05 never did that Mar 01 16:05:29 took me quite some time to find that cache is causing ie om-gta01 sometimes in nokia900 builds Mar 01 16:05:48 mrmoku: seems caused to MACHINE defined only in shell environment Mar 01 16:06:03 nice documentation btw. :) Mar 01 16:06:09 but I never had issues with it here, because I don't override CACHE var to same directory for all machines Mar 01 16:06:32 ahh, and I always change MACHINE in the conf Mar 01 16:07:00 which conf now? ;) Mar 01 16:07:32 JaMa: did not pull in your changes yet ;) Mar 01 16:07:49 if you still have it in auto.conf then env setting won't work, but you won't be hit by shared CACHE Mar 01 16:08:33 I prefer to set in in env, because this way I can have multiple screen windows building separate machines in paralel Mar 01 16:08:51 as long as they won't start building the same -native recipe Mar 01 16:10:43 :) Mar 01 16:10:58 so parallel-building for different machines is ok? Mar 01 16:11:03 that is good to know too :) Mar 01 16:12:13 yes.. but with SHR Makefile layout we need to resolve that CACHE first.. Mar 01 16:12:28 probably as soon as my PERSISTENT_DIR patch is in OE Mar 01 16:55:08 JaMa: is it save to build a new phonefsod for gta02 while htcdream is building then? :) Mar 01 16:57:21 mrmoku: yes, but htcdream is almost done.. so it will start gta02 soon Mar 01 16:57:40 and you would get conflicting CACHE Mar 01 16:58:10 JaMa: ahh, if it builds gta02 after that fine anyway :) Mar 01 16:58:20 that's why there is rm -f tmp/cache/bb_cache.dat in that for cycle Mar 01 16:58:43 mrmoku: yup reordered my favourite for cycle to start with highest arch :) Mar 01 16:59:49 heh my fingers are trained to press enter after :) automatically :P Mar 01 16:59:57 hehe Mar 01 17:01:07 ok, will concentrate on dinner then... bbl Mar 01 17:01:40 htcdream build finished.. so fresh phonefsod should be there when you finish your dinner Mar 01 17:01:55 * JaMa also leaving.. time to play :) football-tenis Mar 01 17:16:38 heyho Mar 01 17:26:28 JaMa|Off: saw your changes to libphone-ui, I am even fine with it this way Mar 01 17:27:49 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r84570f5f46a0 10/fsogsmd/conf/palm_pre/fsogsmd.conf: fsogsmd: palmpre conf: enable data transport per default Mar 01 17:27:51 hey folks: i'm trying to install debian on my freerunner neo, and i keep getting the error "Couldn't decompress Packages.gz!", and when i type 'df -h' i see that my SD card (mmcblk0) is now mounted as mmcblk0p1 with a size of 27.6M. I can only assume it's the install.sh script doing that, but is there a way to tell it to make a *bigger* partition than 27.6M? clearly that's *nowhere near* enough space for a debian install. (install Mar 01 17:28:00 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r15929a805358 10/fsousaged/conf/palm_pre/fsousaged.conf: fsousaged: palmpre conf: switch to DEBUG loglevel for now Mar 01 17:28:08 TASKS="ALL" QI=true sh ./install.sh all Mar 01 17:28:12 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r8a0f406a2391 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_qualcomm_palm/ (Makefile.am mediators.vala mediators_pdp.vala): fsogsmd: modem_qualcomm_palm: override default AtPdp mediators for now Mar 01 17:28:13 n4cht: p1 is for /boot? Mar 01 17:29:15 lindi-: no idea. when i partitioned the card myself, i did a 256M swap, and the rest ext2 (2GB microSD) so i have no idea what the installer is doing to my partitions, and why. Mar 01 17:29:37 n4cht: the installer by default creates partitions I think Mar 01 17:29:52 n4cht: you should read it Mar 01 17:29:57 second time, i did one single partition (whole card), and the same thing happened.. so yeah, the installer does create them by default. Mar 01 17:30:16 i'm just wondering how i can make it create the right ones, or stop messing with them altogether. Mar 01 17:31:24 OOH! I see now! "SD_PART1_SIZE"... i missed that one. Mar 01 17:34:23 i hope that does the trick. if not, then i have no idea what to do. Mar 01 17:35:52 and there it is again. stupid 27.6M partition. why would the installer create a partition that small? Mar 01 17:37:34 okay... i see an option of --no-partitioning hopefully that will work if i create my own partitons again. Mar 01 17:38:57 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * raa49ff741f30 10/msmcommd/src/modemchannel.vala: msmcommd: don't reset command queue on modem reset Mar 01 17:39:46 n4cht: for /boot? Mar 01 17:44:14 lindi-: no. for / Mar 01 17:44:39 i'm not creating a partition for /boot Mar 01 17:44:58 n4cht: then it might indeed be a bug. can you find it? Mar 01 17:46:04 well, i tried using the --no-partitioning flag after creating a single 1.8GB partition (max possible on my 2GB card) and now it's hanging at "Writing inode tables: 0/1" Mar 01 17:46:28 n4cht: it might just take a while Mar 01 17:47:49 i guess so. it threw out some warning about not being able to read, write, or erase block 0. : Mar 01 17:48:00 so i'm not sure if it's going to ever finish. Mar 01 17:49:36 i'll give it some time, but i don't suspect it should take this long to format 1.8GB. nevermind that i had already created and formatted the partition in ext2. but then again, it's trying to do it with mmcblk0p1 instead of mmcblk0 where there is -no- mmcblk0p1 Mar 01 17:51:39 i cannot understand why it keeps insisting on using mmcblk0p1. maybe i'll try again with creating a dummy partition and then a second parition at mmcblk0p1 @ 1.8GB and try the --no-partitioning flag again. Mar 01 17:52:23 n4cht: I recommend you just read install.sh through manually Mar 01 17:53:04 lindi-: i have. multiple times. and it makes no sense why it keeps trying to create a partition WAY too small to install on. Mar 01 17:55:45 mickeyl: it's seems like I found out how to make sysfs attribute pollable Mar 01 17:56:32 mickeyl: the sysfs node needs to implement sysfs_notify on kernel side Mar 01 17:56:39 ah Mar 01 17:56:59 lindi-: UBOOT_ENV_SIZE=262144 is the only line i can find that would seem to be the culprit. i wonder if it will stop failing if i increase that to around 1.5GB for example. Mar 01 17:57:20 n4cht: you said you are using Qi Mar 01 17:57:38 lindi-: yes. Mar 01 17:58:21 lindi-: however, that's the only line i can find that is dictating sizes. Mar 01 17:58:26 n4cht: you said "sh ./install.sh"? Mar 01 17:58:38 n4cht: install.sh needs bash Mar 01 18:01:33 actually.. i said >> TASKS="ALL" QI=true SINGLE_PART=true ./install.sh all Mar 01 18:01:59 tried with --no-partitioning before all, but that did no good either. Mar 01 18:04:36 if i could just find the part of install.sh that dictates the size of the partition, i'd be fine. i've tried SD_PART1_SIZE=1750 to no avail (1750M) Mar 01 18:05:08 it always wants to create the dang / partition @ 27.6M Mar 01 18:06:37 n4cht: can you put full output online? Mar 01 18:08:40 lindi-: yeah. i'm trying one more time with SD_PART1_SIZE=1750 SD_PART1_FS=ext2 TASKS="ALL" QI=true sh ./install.sh all and if that fails, i'll copy the whole thing to pastebin Mar 01 18:10:39 right now it's hanging at "* Clearing MBR of SD" *sigh* at least that's something new. i'm going to leave it be and see if it makes it past that point. if it's still hanging there in 10 mins, i'll know something is wrong. Mar 01 18:10:49 n4cht: pastebin is not very good since it timeouts :) Mar 01 18:15:14 lindi-: i've never had a problem with pastebin. maybe i'm just lucky Mar 01 18:15:32 n4cht: well it won't be accessible after 4 months surely? Mar 01 18:16:55 my expiration options are 1 week, 1 month, 1 year. Mar 01 18:25:19 ah-hah. i think i figured it out. if i partition and format the card manually, i think i can do this: TASKS="ALL" QI=true SINGLE_PART=true ./install.sh mount debian apt fso configuration tasks kernel cleanup unmount < okay... ls -l /bin | grep sh shows that /bin/sh links to busybox, not bash. Mar 01 18:40:18 n4cht: yeah, busybox is fail here Mar 01 18:40:54 SHR doesn't include bash, does it? Mar 01 18:41:23 n4cht: I don't use SHR but I think it does Mar 01 18:41:38 i don't see it in /bin, that's why i ask. Mar 01 18:42:18 i assume it's somewhere though.. since the DebianOnFreerunner installation stuff all talks about installing SHR first unless cross-compiling. Mar 01 18:42:20 n4cht: use the package manager? Mar 01 18:45:22 lindi-: it has a package manager? neat. to be honest, i have had this neo for about a year now and this is the first time i've tried doing anything with it. Mar 01 18:45:32 time to hit the SHR manual Mar 01 18:50:14 lindi-: nope. no bash. i wonder why the hell the debian wiki would say to flash SHR if the install requires bash, and there's no bash for SHR? Mar 01 18:50:40 n4cht: I'm not using SHR but I definitely used bash there Mar 01 18:50:44 n4cht: ask the SHR people :) Mar 01 18:53:09 n4cht: bash is in our (SHR) feeds... and we're going to switch to it as default instead of the busybox crap.. probably Mar 01 18:54:51 i think i actually just needed to do opkg update, and opkg upgrade. i'll see if bash is an option now. Mar 01 18:56:37 i bet that's the problem though. i bet it's stupid busybox misinterpreting the script and doing KB instead of MB (that's why it keeps making a 27.6M partition) Mar 01 18:57:08 dollars to donuts as soon as i get bash installed, the install script works. Mar 01 18:58:56 one of the things i'm going to do once i get debian installed is find a USB gender dongle to use a hub so i can hook up a keyboard and mouse. haha. Mar 01 18:59:53 ah-hah! after opkg update and upgrade, bash is listed under opkg list | grep bash Mar 01 19:05:08 i don't know what made me decide to start messing with this thing today. i have a couple android phones that are a lot more powerful than this neo.. but i'm thinking i might be able to turn it into a wifi media remote or something Mar 01 19:06:02 I had mine, running debian, set up to be a Freifunk mesh node Mar 01 19:10:25 ARGH! There it is again. the install script is making the 27.6M partition again. Mar 01 19:10:42 time to try with manually defining a size again. Mar 01 19:14:11 mickeyl: ping Mar 01 19:14:22 no matter what i tell it with SD_PART1_SIZE, it keeps up with the damnable 27.6MB partition!@#! Mar 01 19:21:36 time to try rebooting the neo -again-, then try --no-partitioning again. Mar 01 19:24:09 JaMa|Off, ping Mar 01 19:28:17 ARRRGGHHHH!!!! Okay. Now I'm damned annoyed. Even --no-partitioning, it makes the stupid partition!@#!$@#! Mar 01 19:28:25 NO! Mar 01 19:30:10 SHR: 03mok 07phonefsod * r3f053f233800 10/src/phonefsod-dbus.c: fix up last commit Mar 01 19:33:08 morphis, hi Mar 01 19:34:17 FINALLY! i did TASKS="ALL" QI=true SINGLE_PART=true ./install.sh format mount debian apt fso configuration tasks kernel cleanup unmount after creating 1.7G partition manually. it's actually installing now. FINALLY! Mar 01 19:35:47 yes yes YES! it's working! Mar 01 19:36:51 while i would still love to know *why* the install script was consistently making the install partition 27.6M instead of 1.7G, at least i figured out a way around it. Mar 01 19:39:06 * [Rui] waves Mar 01 19:39:31 <[Rui]> mrmoku: message list is actually constructed in quite a different way to the contact list Mar 01 19:39:42 <[Rui]> it should follow the same logic, but doesn't. Mar 01 19:41:16 [Rui]: it is different, because the contact list is used in two places Mar 01 19:41:35 the contacts view and when you select a contact in new message view Mar 01 19:50:06 <[Rui]> mrmoku: is it the same contact list? Mar 01 19:51:03 * [Rui] can't see, his message view simply dies at launch Mar 01 19:51:25 pespin: pong Mar 01 19:52:01 morphis: thanks :) sorry I didn't reply in time when you discuessed it here with mrmoku Mar 01 19:52:11 <[Rui]> pespin: how much is that tablet you're playing with? Mar 01 19:52:16 JaMa: no problem Mar 01 19:53:57 <[Rui]> mrmoku: but what I mean is that the message *list* is constructed differently, with another logic entirely I don't see why. Mar 01 19:54:49 <[Rui]> or maybe I do, I think playing with scroll,edge,* Mar 01 19:55:55 <[Rui]> it seems kind of painful to look at g_hash_table here and Eina_List there Mar 01 20:00:36 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r7f4aa75e6bc3 10/fsogsmd/conf/palm_pre/fsogsmd.conf: Mar 01 20:00:37 freesmartphone.org: Revert "fsogsmd: palmpre conf: enable data transport per default" Mar 01 20:00:37 freesmartphone.org: This reverts commit 84570f5f46a0e09c80e14e17283cc8f28ddaf3de. Mar 01 20:01:30 <[Rui]> this kind of makes it a lot harder to do multiple selection. Mar 01 20:01:50 <[Rui]> I'm wondering why it was done this way, some inherent slowness of message handling? Mar 01 20:10:26 JaMa: you saw playya two patches on SHR-Devel about xkeyboard and xorg? Mar 01 20:13:59 captainigloo: how do I trigger the menu in elfe to add gadgets to the home screen? Mar 01 20:14:33 [Rui]: ahh... maybe you're talking about the stuff trevino did Mar 01 20:14:43 mrmoku, is there something to do? Mar 01 20:14:50 mickeyl, how's forwarding? Mar 01 20:14:53 <[Rui]> mrmoku: I didn't remember who did it, but I think I remember something like that. Mar 01 20:15:28 GNUtoo|laptop: forwarding seems to work... he managed to camp to the network even Mar 01 20:15:35 wow Mar 01 20:15:43 maybe I should bitbake a new image Mar 01 20:16:06 GNUtoo|laptop: yeah, to see what does not work with an image out of the box ;) Mar 01 20:16:44 JaMa: need another phonefsod rebuild... because I'm stupid :P Mar 01 20:16:57 JaMa, I looked at the EXTRA_PACKAGE_ARCH you told me this morning (no i686 config file for opkg) Mar 01 20:17:16 JaMa, it shows same as in tune-atom.inc. Mar 01 20:17:46 mrmoku, you pushed a new kernel? Mar 01 20:19:32 JaMa, shouldn't this be enough though? Mar 01 20:19:33 BASE_PACKAGE_ARCH = "i686" Mar 01 20:19:33 FEED_ARCH = "i686" Mar 01 20:19:33 PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS += "x86 i386 i486 i586" Mar 01 20:20:04 (^ in conf/machine/includes/tune-atom.inc Mar 01 20:20:06 GNUtoo|laptop: to OE? no Mar 01 20:20:21 yes Mar 01 20:20:40 we still need a good modular defconfig Mar 01 20:20:43 because 35 has broken touchscreen Mar 01 20:20:47 I'm not good at kernel configs Mar 01 20:20:47 ok lol Mar 01 20:20:53 just take the old one Mar 01 20:20:57 as a start Mar 01 20:21:23 I always started with omap2plus config Mar 01 20:21:32 ok Mar 01 20:21:36 then start with that Mar 01 20:21:44 don't add camera built in tough Mar 01 20:21:47 it prevent booting Mar 01 20:21:55 add it as a module Mar 01 20:22:20 [Rui], I've heard people saying it cost from 400€ to 800€ Mar 01 20:22:32 <[Rui]> pespin: ouch, that's still very expensive Mar 01 20:22:34 no idea thought, haven't looked at it yet ;) Mar 01 20:22:42 what costs that much? Mar 01 20:22:44 an USRP? Mar 01 20:22:54 <[Rui]> pespin_: you're supporting a tabled you haven't looked at yet? Mar 01 20:22:55 <[Rui]> pespin: how much is that tablet you're playing with? Mar 01 20:22:59 ah ok Mar 01 20:23:07 [Rui], Intel gave it to me hehe Mar 01 20:23:15 <[Rui]> pespin_: buah Mar 01 20:23:16 I've hardware that costs more Mar 01 20:23:21 bug devices Mar 01 20:23:37 I've no idea on how they cost but with the number of modules I have..... Mar 01 20:23:45 I know it's not cheap Mar 01 20:24:00 :) Mar 01 20:24:10 in another hand I'm their best community member Mar 01 20:25:08 morphis: seen those but as I don't know much about palmpre feel free to push those yourself as you can test them Mar 01 20:25:22 I've something like 8 modules + 2 bugs for now Mar 01 20:25:25 I won the first one Mar 01 20:25:55 JaMa: my question is more about the xkeyboard one. Is it ok to add shr repository just as we don't have the keyboard supported finished to include it upstream? Mar 01 20:25:55 [Rui], I'm not sure if the hardware can already be bought, or you can only pre-order Mar 01 20:25:59 morphis: and you have to make it MACHINE_ARCH Mar 01 20:26:10 correct Mar 01 20:26:17 morphis, about palm-pre do you know how receiving them happens? fedex? is there some customs to pay? Mar 01 20:26:20 one moment, I have to reboot Mar 01 20:26:24 ok Mar 01 20:26:52 morphis: and as Heinervdm said, there wont be upgradeable path for palmpre Mar 01 20:27:20 morphis: but currently it will be messy anyways :/ Mar 01 20:27:39 <[Rui]> pespin_: I'm still looking for a nice tablet Mar 01 20:27:42 maybe I should work on palm-pre keyboard when I get a pre Mar 01 20:27:52 morphis: best option would be to generate git diff from shr repo to upstream and add it to OE only as palmpre patch Mar 01 20:27:57 <[Rui]> that allwaysinnovating one seemed nice, except it's vapourware Mar 01 20:28:13 morphis: of if it doesn't conflict with other devices then add it to shared SRC_URI Mar 01 20:28:17 [Rui], which one? the touchbook or the smartbook Mar 01 20:28:24 [Rui], exopc hardware is quite good. Mar 01 20:28:36 [Rui], I think they really exist Mar 01 20:28:52 for instance, it has an ath9k wifi card Mar 01 20:28:59 wow Mar 01 20:29:00 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: I'm not sure of the difference, the tablet with the pluggable keyboard. Mar 01 20:29:05 * GNUtoo|laptop loves ath9k Mar 01 20:29:09 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: you can't buy the capacitative version Mar 01 20:29:12 * pespin_ too Mar 01 20:29:14 ah ok Mar 01 20:29:29 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: they say (for ages) in pre-order status Mar 01 20:29:33 [Rui], battery lasts about 3 hours with wifi enabled Mar 01 20:29:38 pespin_, I've ath9k on my laptop, router,desktop Mar 01 20:29:43 pespin_: yes it should be enough but better to check output of -e (to see it wasn't overwritten later) Mar 01 20:29:50 <[Rui]> pespin_: what's the cpu? atom? Mar 01 20:29:52 <[Rui]> atom sucks Mar 01 20:29:55 I have it in my eeepc netbook too ;) Mar 01 20:30:03 [Rui], yes, atom Mar 01 20:30:16 [Rui], http://www.exopc.com/en/exopc-slate.php Mar 01 20:30:33 the first model were horrible: the part between the keyboard and the screen often broke Mar 01 20:31:12 mrmoku: build started Mar 01 20:31:21 JaMa: thx :) Mar 01 20:31:22 JaMa, with the -e, I get PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS = "x86 i386 i486 i586" Mar 01 20:31:36 as you can see, same values as inside the tune-atom.inc Mar 01 20:31:38 pespin_: and PACKAGE_ARCHS? Mar 01 20:31:48 pespin_, I added 1 entry in the SHR news Mar 01 20:31:59 GNUtoo|laptop, great, thanks Mar 01 20:32:56 mrmoku, does the wifi works for you on n900? Mar 01 20:33:03 or do you have to do that: Mar 01 20:33:06 ifconfig wlan0 up Mar 01 20:33:08 iliwi Mar 01 20:33:12 pespin_: this should pick your TARGET_ARCH bitbake.conf:PACKAGE_ARCHS = "all any noarch ${TARGET_ARCH} ${PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS} ${MACHINE}" Mar 01 20:33:46 JaMa, V Mar 01 20:33:47 GNUtoo|laptop: it's some time I last tried Mar 01 20:33:48 PACKAGE_ARCH="exopcslate" Mar 01 20:34:05 <[Rui]> pespin_: do they sell that without windows crap? that should be quite a lot less for the scale... Mar 01 20:34:10 GNUtoo|laptop: iliwi does not work for me because my net is WPA2 encrypted Mar 01 20:34:20 [Rui], I got it without windows, only with meego. Mar 01 20:34:31 does it at least scan? Mar 01 20:34:33 [Rui], I now how have archlinux, SHR and meego on it Mar 01 20:34:37 <[Rui]> one can buy online Mar 01 20:34:40 doesn't work with WPA2???? Mar 01 20:34:44 <[Rui]> http://www.probitas.pt/detalheProduto.aspx?ido=18101 Mar 01 20:34:45 wasn't it fixed? Mar 01 20:34:53 GNUtoo|laptop: let me try Mar 01 20:35:00 <[Rui]> if it doesn't work with wpa2 it's useless for me Mar 01 20:35:36 JaMa, so it seems PACKAGE_ARCH should be i686 instead of exopcslate? Mar 01 20:36:26 * pespin_ dinner Mar 01 20:36:55 <[Rui]> but they only sell with windows crap Mar 01 20:38:00 <[Rui]> seems made for Microsoft, next :) Mar 01 20:38:31 pespin_: yes exopcslate is only MACHINE Mar 01 20:38:33 GNUtoo|laptop: starting iliwi is enough that it scans and finds my network Mar 01 20:38:50 ok Mar 01 20:38:52 I'll look Mar 01 20:39:00 it must be an error from me Mar 01 20:39:05 hmm... works only once though Mar 01 20:39:11 ah ok Mar 01 20:39:23 maybe it does that Mar 01 20:39:24 hi. wouldn't it be "smarter" to set dim_screen = onbat in /etc/phoneuid.conf ? Mar 01 20:39:29 ifconfig is up the first time Mar 01 20:39:37 pespin_: and I asked about PACKAGE_ARCHS Mar 01 20:39:40 and then.....you use it it works Mar 01 20:39:41 ahh, maybe every second time? :P Mar 01 20:39:41 pespin_: PACKAGE_ARCH should be i686 instead of exopcslate? Mar 01 20:39:42 21:35:48 * pespin_ dinner Mar 01 20:39:46 ups Mar 01 20:39:50 then you sotop it it ifconfig wlan0 down Mar 01 20:39:50 there is generally no need to dim your display on A/C power Mar 01 20:40:02 PACKAGE_ARCH is just for current target which is for image == MACHINE_ARCH Mar 01 20:40:12 ah no not up for me Mar 01 20:40:22 but maybe it is for you Mar 01 20:40:30 GNUtoo|laptop: I just stopped and restarted iliwi Mar 01 20:40:39 ok Mar 01 20:40:43 and? Mar 01 20:40:47 it says connecting Mar 01 20:40:51 but does not connect Mar 01 20:41:43 power supply is still not there Mar 01 20:41:51 [fsodevice.powersupply_n900] Mar 01 20:41:51 ok Mar 01 20:42:08 no, did not do that yet... first I want a kernel Mar 01 20:42:36 no idea if it works with the kernel we ship in the image right now Mar 01 20:42:52 alexxy: opkg update; opkg upgrade... is fixed Mar 01 20:42:54 it has touchscreen issues Mar 01 20:43:09 silly question: how do we handle NAND? cough cough Mar 01 20:43:11 lol Mar 01 20:43:18 * mrmoku back after shower Mar 01 20:43:20 ok Mar 01 20:43:35 I'm crazy(for using NAND) Mar 01 20:44:37 for me it doesn't ifconfgi wlan0 up Mar 01 20:44:40 so it doesn't work Mar 01 20:51:29 JaMa, # PACKAGE_ARCHS=all any noarch ${TARGET_ARCH} ${PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS} ${MACHINE} Mar 01 20:51:29 PACKAGE_ARCHS="all any noarch i686 x86 i386 i486 i586 exopcslate" Mar 01 20:52:29 so it looks PACKAGE_ARCHS is correct Mar 01 21:00:16 GNUtoo|laptop, (ifconfig wlan0 up) I'm having same problem with that on exopcslate+fso Mar 01 21:00:43 hmmm Mar 01 21:01:10 I hope mickeyl will work on it after the isi modem Mar 01 21:01:23 when I launch iliwi, I then need to enable the interface Mar 01 21:02:13 in other words that is broken: Mar 01 21:02:15 [fsodevice.powercontrol_ifconfig] Mar 01 21:02:16 GNUtoo|laptop: Associated with 00:08:54:97:6b:40 Mar 01 21:02:16 interface = wlan0 Mar 01 21:02:22 with wpa_supplicant it works for me Mar 01 21:02:25 ok Mar 01 21:02:36 mrmoku, it's safe to upgrade unstable? Mar 01 21:02:49 pespin_: from your ancient stuff? Mar 01 21:03:01 | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped Mar 01 21:03:10 emacs-x11 doesn't compile anymore Mar 01 21:03:11 hmmm Mar 01 21:03:15 I'll see that another day Mar 01 21:03:19 pespin_: did not test much... just that pin popup works again :) Mar 01 21:03:53 GNUtoo|laptop: well, the powercontrol_ifconfig seems to work fine for me Mar 01 21:04:01 ah ok Mar 01 21:04:09 maybe kernel related Mar 01 21:04:19 mrmoku, nah, I'm not ancient, I upgraded some days ago ;) Mar 01 21:04:31 GNUtoo|laptop: using your kernel config too at the moment Mar 01 21:04:39 pespin_: ok :) Mar 01 21:04:53 pespin_: it boots... and camps to the network Mar 01 21:05:04 guess it should work fine... did not test though Mar 01 21:05:46 btw, I'm writing the presentation for SHR(/OE/FSO). I'm doing it in catalan, but I'll translate it to english once I'm done so other people can use it Mar 01 21:09:19 pespin_: and FEED_URIS ? Mar 01 21:09:23 somebody was talking to me about enna running on SHR and iphone Mar 01 21:09:28 mrmoku, ah ok Mar 01 21:09:29 strange Mar 01 21:09:37 arg sorry elfe not enna Mar 01 21:09:48 who is this person ? Mar 01 21:09:49 captainigloo, the icons are too small on n900 Mar 01 21:09:55 it was better before Mar 01 21:10:03 GNUtoo|laptop: i'm working on that Mar 01 21:10:09 ok thanks a lot Mar 01 21:10:11 captainigloo: iphone is Lopi usually Mar 01 21:10:16 do you need screenshot? Mar 01 21:10:32 mrmoku: thanks Mar 01 21:10:36 yw Mar 01 21:10:43 captainigloo, SHR runs on iphone, thir irc channel is #xX Mar 01 21:10:45 oops Mar 01 21:10:47 captainigloo, SHR runs on iphone, thir irc channel is #iX Mar 01 21:10:51 GNUtoo|laptop: elfe works for you? running efl from trunk? Mar 01 21:10:57 yes it's working Mar 01 21:11:04 no idea which version Mar 01 21:11:07 I'll look Mar 01 21:11:09 hmm Mar 01 21:11:32 i need to push some stuff, but i need to stabilize first before pushing Mar 01 21:11:46 elfe - 0.0.1+svnr57413-r5.0.6 Mar 01 21:11:50 ok Mar 01 21:11:58 and for n900 and landscape phone it will be possible to change the grid size Mar 01 21:12:28 ok nice Mar 01 21:12:28 GNUtoo-n900: and elementary? Mar 01 21:12:56 and the bottom bar is now 1/10 of the size, so you will have more size for icons Mar 01 21:13:06 it should be better imo Mar 01 21:13:11 cant past Mar 01 21:13:13 captainigloo: elfe on iphone - http://bit.ly/fTFXqx Mar 01 21:13:36 Lopi: nice ! Mar 01 21:13:43 hmm... maybe I'm just doing something wrong Mar 01 21:13:53 mrmoku: what's the problem ? Mar 01 21:14:10 morphis: to add gadgets on the desktop you need to longpress on the desktop Mar 01 21:14:10 captainigloo: I can't add icons Mar 01 21:14:15 GNUtoo-n900: no, nothing to pay for you Mar 01 21:14:16 uhhh Mar 01 21:14:18 :) Mar 01 21:14:19 captainigloo: ok Mar 01 21:14:21 captainigloo: thanks :) Mar 01 21:14:25 it segfault with telephony Mar 01 21:14:25 GNUtoo-n900: will ship with UPS Mar 01 21:14:28 JaMa, # FEED_URIS=None Mar 01 21:14:28 for line in ${FEED_URIS} Mar 01 21:14:32 captainigloo: thanks Mar 01 21:14:35 ok nice Mar 01 21:14:56 captainigloo: yay, works :-D Mar 01 21:14:58 mrmoku: longpress on icons doesn't work ? Mar 01 21:15:06 * mrmoku did not know about longpress Mar 01 21:15:10 are we now using elfe by default in unstable? Mar 01 21:15:17 i will change that in future version Mar 01 21:15:19 * mrmoku was always starting apps... instead of adding them ;) Mar 01 21:15:34 Lopi you forgott to make new screenshots on linuxtogo Mar 01 21:15:34 one menu for apps and gadgets Mar 01 21:15:58 and longpress on desktop will be for change icons position, delete icons Mar 01 21:16:14 and change gadgets size Mar 01 21:16:39 Lopi: maybe you have some videos ? Mar 01 21:18:08 longpress works only in existing icons Mar 01 21:18:11 *on Mar 01 21:18:32 GNUtoo-n900: yeah I'll do it tonight, have class in a little bit Mar 01 21:18:37 GNUtoo-n900: what do you mean ? Mar 01 21:18:53 what's linuxtogo ? Mar 01 21:18:57 captainigloo: I have a video that's several months old Mar 01 21:19:13 captainigloo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w3grzo_ybM Mar 01 21:19:36 scap.linuxtogo.org Mar 01 21:19:42 Lopi: awesome Mar 01 21:20:09 now that desktop looks better with elfe, we should maybe change the topbar ! Mar 01 21:20:43 and the keyboard :) Mar 01 21:29:00 GNUtoo-n900: http://shr.pastebin.com/Zd8QdvjY Mar 01 21:29:14 is what I get when quitting iliwi Mar 01 21:30:33 hmm... and sometimes the same backtrace when I start it Mar 01 21:32:35 ok looking Mar 01 21:33:57 GNUtoo-n900: requesting/releasing WiFi with mdbus2 (and iliwi stopped) does not provoke that bt though Mar 01 21:34:10 ah kn Mar 01 21:34:14 *ok Mar 01 21:34:22 seem a slow path Mar 01 21:34:34 so it's slow Mar 01 21:37:27 I'll go bye Mar 01 21:53:57 pespin_: oversaw your question... no (at least not yet) Mar 01 21:54:37 ok ;) Mar 01 21:55:52 mrmoku: did you build phonefsod for om-gta0* already? strangly it built it for n900/htcdream but didn't pick it for om-gta0* Mar 01 22:10:12 JaMa: huh? I already installed it :P Mar 01 22:10:19 did not build anything though Mar 01 22:10:26 and got it via wget from tests Mar 01 22:10:44 morphis, I bet you did more customization that I did for the dream for the palmpre Mar 01 22:10:55 I've to catch up :) Mar 01 22:12:28 JaMa: and correct version is synced too Mar 01 22:12:33 dunno about the index Mar 01 22:12:40 anyway... Mar 01 22:12:44 * mrmoku off to bed now Mar 01 22:12:48 gnight all Mar 01 22:14:17 night Mar 01 22:14:20 <[Rui]> gnight Mar 01 22:14:23 <[Rui]> I'm off as well Mar 01 22:14:36 <[Rui]> now elmdentica's window is completely dedicated to viewing statuses Mar 01 22:14:47 <[Rui]> the toolbar has been hidden :) Mar 01 22:15:02 <[Rui]> press near bottom or top and new "toolbars" will show up Mar 01 22:15:55 <[Rui]> oops... the buttons on top don't look so good on 480x640 Mar 01 22:16:45 <[Rui]> won't fix it tonight, too tired. Mar 01 22:18:12 JaMa, for the gtkrc it's in oe (gtk-themes) ? Mar 01 22:28:04 <[Rui]> damn, now allowed to go to bed :( Mar 01 22:28:17 <[Rui]> baby hasn't had dinner yet and still sound asleep Mar 01 22:28:31 mickeyl, ping Mar 01 22:28:36 <[Rui]> 1st nursery school day, I guess he's so... tired Mar 01 22:29:12 mickeyl, can I add to the init sequence of the htcdream in fsogsmd.conf for fixing the USA CME error 100 issue Mar 01 22:29:16 ? Mar 01 22:29:53 or should the fix go in the code itself? Mar 01 22:31:43 n4cht: well, Android phones may be more powerful... but then, they are only running Android :-) Mar 01 22:32:02 antrik, unless someone as dedicated as me+leviathan convert them Mar 01 22:32:40 which is very hard and long Mar 01 22:33:37 antrik, you had to do with android? Mar 01 22:33:58 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ Mar 01 22:34:09 a little picture for you (trout == htcdream ) Mar 01 22:34:21 nearly everything works Mar 01 22:34:26 but it doesn't work well Mar 01 22:35:15 the good is: Mar 01 22:35:18 *AT + NMEA Mar 01 22:35:30 the bad, well all the rest including GPS activation Mar 01 22:35:38 on qualcomm devices Mar 01 22:35:42 *SOC Mar 01 22:35:48 but for android it's fine Mar 01 22:36:15 fine means that android can handle such non-standard stuff Mar 01 22:36:24 but they diverge from mainline Mar 01 22:36:30 which is a huge problem Mar 01 22:36:35 for them too Mar 01 22:36:48 GNUtoo|laptop: AIUI, even dream is still not really usable as an everyday phone? everything else doesn't count in my book Mar 01 22:37:00 Dream with SHR I mean Mar 01 22:37:04 it depends Mar 01 22:37:10 look here: Mar 01 22:37:35 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/HardwareComparison Mar 01 22:37:45 I used it as an everyday phone for a while Mar 01 22:37:59 The big issues are alsa and wifi PSM Mar 01 22:38:08 alsa works fine with mplayer Mar 01 22:38:13 because I worked arround Mar 01 22:38:16 with sdl Mar 01 22:38:36 but some apps don't work well at all Mar 01 22:38:40 such as linphone Mar 01 22:38:44 some other works fine Mar 01 22:38:47 like aplay Mar 01 22:38:53 or slfphone Mar 01 22:38:58 JaMa: Question: why does "make setup-shr-unstable" clone openembedded in . and in shr-unsable ? Mar 01 22:39:10 for wifi PSM, I failed at making it work Mar 01 22:39:27 .irq = MSM_GPIO_TO_INT(29) blocks the phone Mar 01 22:39:33 so I abandoned Mar 01 22:39:39 and I use it without PSM Mar 01 22:40:12 there is also an annoying problem: SMS don't wake up the phone, but I bet that could be easily fixed Mar 01 22:40:18 calls do Mar 01 22:40:26 also a very problematic problem Mar 01 22:40:34 when you listen music Mar 01 22:40:41 it only vibrates Mar 01 22:40:49 that's because we have no alsa multiplexing Mar 01 22:40:58 because I failed at making .mmap work correclty Mar 01 22:41:45 SMS don't waking the phone sounds like a showstopper to me Mar 01 22:41:54 it could be fixed Mar 01 22:42:10 I've just to look into it Mar 01 22:42:13 (the others I probably woudn't care much about personally, though others might) Mar 01 22:42:24 yes it depend a lot on the person Mar 01 22:42:27 even 3g works btw Mar 01 22:42:34 camera don't work Mar 01 22:42:42 GNUtoo|laptop: well, I'm talking about realities, not hypothetical possibilities :-) Mar 01 22:42:48 ok Mar 01 22:42:58 if someone care, I fix Mar 01 22:43:00 else.... Mar 01 22:43:29 you're just curious? Mar 01 22:43:38 or you have a dream or plan to have one? Mar 01 22:43:43 for all I know, OM is still the only phone on which SHR is actually usable, and probably will be for some time to come... Mar 01 22:43:58 we'll see Mar 01 22:44:08 I don't bet too much on htcdream Mar 01 22:44:15 but I bet a lot on nokia n900 Mar 01 22:44:29 standard kernel Mar 01 22:44:36 source for most of the stuff Mar 01 22:45:31 basically for the n900 what's lacking is: Mar 01 22:45:36 *modem //work in progress Mar 01 22:45:40 *polishing Mar 01 22:45:56 *wait for a better kernel or put the 2.6.28 back Mar 01 22:49:59 well, my original statement still stands: discounting experimental systems on some models, Android phones only run Android Mar 01 22:50:47 yes and it's a valid statement Mar 01 22:51:00 which is fine for the "average" non-technical user, but not good for people like us :-) Mar 01 22:51:04 mine is valid too Mar 01 22:51:12 the fact that you need *a lot* of work Mar 01 22:51:19 to make something work on it Mar 01 22:54:17 freesmartphone.org: 03GNUtoo 07cornucopia * rc0e5fd6740d3 10/fsogsmd/conf/htc_qualcomm_dream/fsogsmd.conf: Mar 01 22:54:17 freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: conf/htc_qualcomm_dream: make the modem work in USA too. Mar 01 22:54:17 freesmartphone.org: This fix makes the modem work in USA, and was briefly tested in USA: Mar 01 22:54:17 freesmartphone.org: Without that fix we have a CME error 100 when trying to call someone. Mar 01 22:54:17 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli Mar 01 23:11:57 GNUtoo|laptop: wait... was that link SHR on a HTC Dream? Mar 01 23:12:29 ? Mar 01 23:12:30 i have a HTC Dream laying around that i want to do something fun with. Mar 01 23:12:36 ah ok Mar 01 23:12:48 you can try without installing Mar 01 23:12:57 Note that I'll fix the GUI Mar 01 23:13:06 gtkrc is bad at the moment Mar 01 23:13:30 http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/DreamInstall Mar 01 23:14:01 my phones: 3 blackberry devices (2 8320's and 1 9000), 2 BlackJack II, 1 HTC Dream, 1 Openmoko Freerunner Neo, 1 Samsung Galaxy S Armani Mar 01 23:14:18 galaxy S Mar 01 23:14:20 wow Mar 01 23:14:32 I'm looking for some infos on the modem protocol Mar 01 23:14:36 that's my favorite play toy. Mar 01 23:14:37 of the galaxy S Mar 01 23:15:15 I've 2 htcdreams, 1 n900, 1 freerunner,1 nexus one Mar 01 23:15:24 and maybe I'll get a free palm-pre-plus Mar 01 23:15:29 s/plus/2 Mar 01 23:16:11 I've also 2 bug devices but theses aren't phones Mar 01 23:16:47 n4cht, what can you tell me about the galaxy? Mar 01 23:16:56 it has alsa Mar 01 23:17:03 GNUtoo|laptop: i can help you with the modem info later on after i finish installing debian on my freerunner. the install died during the apt phase, so i went back to the mount phase and started from there since i didn't know if it was safe to remove the debian phase Mar 01 23:17:04 what about the camera? it's standard Mar 01 23:17:06 ? Mar 01 23:17:25 ah right, debian is tricky to install Mar 01 23:18:15 yeah... i got tired of gentoo so i flashed SHR and now i'm trying to install debian to SD Mar 01 23:18:35 ok Mar 01 23:19:50 this is the first time i've played with the damn thing (flashed gentoo last night, didn't like it.. takes too long to compile everything when i want to install a package) now installing debian. i've had this freerunner for a year, but no matter what i run on it, the front speaker (ear speaker) has never worked, so i never used it for a phone since i had to make all calls on speaker. Mar 01 23:21:44 ah ouch Mar 01 23:22:24 maybe it's badly connected Mar 01 23:22:36 when you disasemble the front side of the freerunner Mar 01 23:22:38 i might use it for a phone if i find a comfortable enough 3.5mm wired headset. Mar 01 23:22:46 the speaker disconnects Mar 01 23:22:53 it's only put on the pcb Mar 01 23:22:59 there is no wire or something like that Mar 01 23:23:06 i've never disassembled it... perhaps the person that gave it to me did though. Mar 01 23:23:13 ok Mar 01 23:23:33 I had to disasseble mine Mar 01 23:23:44 for using the debug board Mar 01 23:23:54 i traded a htc touch pro 2 for this freerunner and my htc dream. Mar 01 23:23:56 and also for soldering back a button Mar 01 23:24:01 (my device fall once and broke a button) Mar 01 23:24:05 ok Mar 01 23:24:21 in case you don't like SHR on the htc dream there is replicant Mar 01 23:24:28 it's a fully free android distro Mar 01 23:24:36 how is it as an actual phone? is the call clarity decent? Mar 01 23:24:44 the freerunner that is Mar 01 23:24:48 the dream, yes Mar 01 23:24:59 for the freerunner Mar 01 23:25:17 you have settings for the volume and the mic's volume Mar 01 23:25:24 use them to prevent the echo Mar 01 23:25:39 basically there are 3 main distros: Mar 01 23:25:41 *SHR Mar 01 23:25:44 *QTmoko Mar 01 23:25:47 *debian Mar 01 23:25:52 also try QTmoko Mar 01 23:26:10 the people who don't like SHR usually love QTmoko Mar 01 23:33:18 QTmoko is what was on it when i got it. i didn't like it. i don't mind SHR, it's just very slow. i want debian because of how many apps are on the repos. basically anything i could want is available. if i don't fix the speaker, it will be a multiamedia touchscreen remote for my media-center PC. Mar 01 23:45:12 ok Mar 01 23:45:28 SHR is more obtimized than debian for some apps Mar 01 23:45:48 for instance wesnoth can't work on your debian installation on the freerunner Mar 01 23:45:58 but for intance you'll get stuff that you don't have in SHR Mar 01 23:46:11 such as ....let's be crazy....openoffice? Mar 01 23:47:04 GNUtoo|laptop: well, I'm not totally convinced by either SHR or QtMoko :-) Mar 01 23:47:20 ok Mar 01 23:47:26 SHR is more interesting technically (apart from the OE sillyness), but too many moving targets Mar 01 23:47:43 QtMoko is more polished in most regards, but not very interesting development-wise IMHO Mar 01 23:48:11 oe is not that silly Mar 01 23:48:16 (though this would improve partially if they indeed switch to FSO... but then, I'm not a C++ person, so Qt itself is not my preferred choice either...) Mar 01 23:48:20 it permit you to customize for the device Mar 01 23:48:41 GNUtoo|laptop: I see no point in using OE for this kind of device Mar 01 23:49:00 we are not talking about real embedded applications here Mar 01 23:49:14 cross compilation speed Mar 01 23:49:16 autorev Mar 01 23:49:16 it's basically as slightly less powerful general purpose computer Mar 01 23:49:19 customizability Mar 01 23:49:40 for instance debian is hard to customize Mar 01 23:50:08 in what regard? Mar 01 23:50:11 I mean most of the time people porting some kind of desktop distro like ubuntu or debian end up doing a tarball Mar 01 23:50:33 because getting their stuff upstream is very hard Mar 01 23:50:56 you don't have to get stuff upstream. it's always possible to host a custom repository for the modified packages Mar 01 23:51:26 yes but upstream is good Mar 01 23:52:11 BTW, I'm not sure how Debian "pure blends" work, but I guess they might be relevant for this kind of stuff... Mar 01 23:52:54 basically for debian you have to adapt the hardware to debian, not the countrary Mar 01 23:53:21 I also don't believe cross compilation is worth it for smartphones. it causes much more pain than good IMHO Mar 01 23:53:33 you need kernel that are upstream or mostly upstream Mar 01 23:53:42 that alone is a huge issue for a lot of devices Mar 01 23:53:59 err... what does that got to do with the distribution?... Mar 01 23:54:34 because the distribution wants upstream or nearly upstrema kernel(debian) or am I wrong? Mar 01 23:54:47 can you have something like a freescale kernel for instance Mar 01 23:54:52 in pure blend debian Mar 01 23:55:23 as I said, I don't really know how the blends work Mar 01 23:55:23 also we have autorev in oe Mar 01 23:55:27 ok Mar 01 23:55:38 but as I also said, it's always possible to host a custom repository Mar 01 23:55:46 autorev go fetch the last revision of some source Mar 01 23:55:52 and compiles it etc.... Mar 01 23:56:05 that is important for fso and shr developement Mar 01 23:56:09 ok Mar 01 23:56:12 Debian GNU/Hurd has had a custom repository for the problematic packages for ages. not ideal, but not much pain either most of the time Mar 01 23:56:20 ok Mar 01 23:56:32 like libdvdcss? Mar 01 23:56:46 that's yet another story :-) Mar 01 23:57:26 ok Mar 01 23:58:50 I don't think Debian infrastructure has something like autorev out of the box, but I'm pretty sure it would be almost trivial to set up as a script on top of the standard stuff Mar 01 23:59:42 ok Mar 01 23:59:54 do you have machine_arch in debian? Mar 02 00:00:03 that is to say, package specific to 1 machine Mar 02 00:00:04 BTW, SHR is the *only* smartphone distribution I know that uses a specialised packaging system. all others use dpkg or rpm. that's quite telling IMHO Mar 02 00:00:18 opkg is widely used Mar 02 00:00:23 it's even used in openwrt Mar 02 00:00:34 I'm talking about smartphones Mar 02 00:00:37 but we can use deb Mar 02 00:00:47 it's just a mather of recompiling and telling to use deb Mar 02 00:00:56 to openembedded Mar 02 00:01:10 routers are pretty much traditional embedded devices. special embedded distributions make sense there. on smartphones they don't IMHO Mar 02 00:01:12 (openembedded can generate opkg,deb,rpm) Mar 02 00:01:23 I don't agree Mar 02 00:01:28 first try debian Mar 02 00:01:39 and compare with SHR Mar 02 00:01:53 maybe I should try debian too Mar 02 00:02:19 QtMoko is based on Debian. haven't discovered any issues with that so far. Mar 02 00:02:26 ok Mar 02 00:02:32 I expected performance to be a problem, but it's not Mar 02 00:02:33 basically here's what I think Mar 02 00:02:40 in theory your idea is good Mar 02 00:02:53 in theory you want something like ubuntu on a smartphone Mar 02 00:02:56 but not in practice Mar 02 00:03:08 in practice you want some customizations and polishing Mar 02 00:03:12 switching to dpkg would remove a lot of the pain already BTW. didn't know that's possible with OE Mar 02 00:03:47 GNUtoo|laptop: I just don't see why they would be harder to do with a Debian-based distribution Mar 02 00:04:07 or if you don't want to use real Debian packages for some reason, at least use Debian infrastructure Mar 02 00:04:17 (like Maemo for example) Mar 02 00:04:20 :PREFERRED_PKG_FORMAT is the variable that can change the pkg system Mar 02 00:04:24 s/:// Mar 02 00:04:26 GNUtoo|laptop meant: PREFERRED_PKG_FORMAT is the variable that can change the pkg system Mar 02 00:04:38 LiMo4 too from what I've seen Mar 02 00:04:44 maemo is a custom distro Mar 02 00:04:50 maemo is the best of both worlds Mar 02 00:05:05 but it's too much proprietary unfortunately Mar 02 00:05:16 for instance they patch supertux Mar 02 00:05:23 to adapt it specially for the n900 Mar 02 00:05:30 that is the way to go Mar 02 00:05:37 you must adapt software to the device Mar 02 00:05:46 but you also must have a lot of software Mar 02 00:05:58 but they are not debian Mar 02 00:06:02 they are a fork Mar 02 00:06:12 I know Mar 02 00:06:29 I'm not sure which approach is better: custom distro only for the relevant packages, or full fork Mar 02 00:06:36 also as they are armv7 they are compiled for armv7 Mar 02 00:06:49 the first one is surely more pragmatic for a small community like the OM one Mar 02 00:07:32 the first one sounds better Mar 02 00:07:57 err... I mean custom repo Mar 02 00:08:19 ok Mar 02 00:08:22 i.e. customize the packages where it's necessary, and fall back to standard Debian packages for the rest Mar 02 00:08:31 yes sound good Mar 02 00:08:41 altough that's a lot of work, isn't it? Mar 02 00:08:55 basically you fork a lot of packages Mar 02 00:09:04 instead of sharing the fork like in openembedded Mar 02 00:09:13 the question is Mar 02 00:09:16 is it doable? Mar 02 00:09:28 There aren't a lot of devs left Mar 02 00:09:58 btw how do you compile debian? Mar 02 00:10:00 on target? Mar 02 00:10:16 I wonder if it's doable to compile wesnoth on target Mar 02 00:10:19 QtMoko doesn't really have many packages Mar 02 00:10:23 and how long would it take Mar 02 00:10:33 wesnoth is long to compile Mar 02 00:10:42 yeah, for big compiles it's a bit problematic Mar 02 00:11:02 if it's not possible to use standard Debian packages, it might be necessary to cross-compile some things Mar 02 00:11:13 but most of the basic stuff should compile natively just fine Mar 02 00:11:16 and produce deb with openembedded Mar 02 00:11:17 ok Mar 02 00:11:25 not sure how QtMoko handles this Mar 02 00:11:45 qtmoko doesn't even have the same package management for debian and their stuff Mar 02 00:12:31 they have now. v33 will have proper Debian packaging for Qtopia Mar 02 00:12:40 err... Ot Extended or whatever it's called now :-) Mar 02 00:12:47 wow Mar 02 00:12:55 Qt Extended Mar 02 00:13:17 I'll try to sleep Mar 02 00:13:18 bye Mar 02 00:13:32 it was nice to talk Mar 02 00:13:34 with you **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 02 02:59:57 2011