**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 09 02:59:57 2011 Mar 09 07:51:48 helau Mar 09 07:52:22 PaulFertser: hey, no more wintertime? cool Mar 09 08:41:36 hi peeps Mar 09 09:05:31 morning GNUtoo|laptop Mar 09 09:06:20 morning Mar 09 09:07:00 how are you doing ? Mar 09 09:07:56 fine Mar 09 09:08:14 that's great to hear. are you also on semester break ? Mar 09 09:11:18 * dcordes_ is still eager to discuss the role of freerunner Mar 09 09:12:50 maybe should post to ML Mar 09 09:35:20 DocScrutinizer51: yep, -2C is not nearly winter :) Mar 09 09:36:45 I meant Russia's refusal to switch back form CEST to CET next autumn Mar 09 09:37:19 I wish Germany would do same Mar 09 09:37:46 DocScrutinizer51: ah, it's funny actually. Mar 09 09:38:04 DocScrutinizer51: now we will constantly have +2 comparing to the geographic time. Mar 09 09:38:20 duh Mar 09 09:38:59 First +1 was due to the Soviet legislation at about 1920s. Mar 09 09:39:13 Now we'll have the second +2. Damn strange. Mar 09 09:42:14 so eventually sun will set at midnight in Moscow? Mar 09 09:42:44 http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/time/timezones.txt Mar 09 09:43:17 I love comments like Mar 09 09:43:18 # According to a friend of mine who rode the Trans-Siberian Railroad from Mar 09 09:43:21 # Moscow to Irkutsk in 1995, public air and rail transport in Russia ... Mar 09 09:43:24 # still follows Moscow time, no matter where in Russia it is located. Mar 09 09:43:25 in the source code of the C library ;-) Mar 09 09:43:59 lol Mar 09 09:51:55 this all just shows how absurd the whole "summer time" idea really is Mar 09 09:53:44 <[Rui]> meh earth rotation is slowing down, so .... Mar 09 09:53:47 it's just a conspiracy for some fucking early birds against the rest of the population... but it doesn't work. because most people didn't want to get up earlier in the first place, so over time all schedules readjust to the "new" time, and everything is back to what it was Mar 09 09:56:31 <[Rui]> What I care is when are we upgrading Elementary so we get all the nice fixes (oh, and btw, elementary no longer works with efl1 :( ) Mar 09 10:02:37 PaulFertser: where do you live exactly? Mar 09 10:19:48 antrik: Moscow Mar 09 10:22:48 it would be nice to add fennec in shr image but it fails to compile for me: http://bugzilla.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5529 No rule to make target `-lX11' Mar 09 10:24:09 PaulFertser: well, as far as I can see, sticking with CEST (i.e. UTC+2) will actually bring you *closer* to geographical time?... (+2.5) Mar 09 10:26:44 GNUtoo|laptop: ping Mar 09 10:29:48 antrik: we'll stick to UTC+4 actually. Mar 09 10:29:50 <[Rui]> fennec won't work on the freerunner but it will work on the N900 Mar 09 10:30:18 [Rui]: it will also work on the htc hd2 Mar 09 10:30:26 [Rui]: I just can't compile it Mar 09 10:30:32 antrik: we had UTC+3 for the winter and UTC+4 in summer, so now "winter time" is "cancelled". Mar 09 10:30:49 <[Rui]> http://files.1407.org/openmoko/freerunner-with-elfe.ogg Mar 09 10:30:57 <[Rui]> captainigloo: ^^^^^^^ Mar 09 10:31:00 nice :) Mar 09 10:31:15 do you have n900 ? Mar 09 10:31:40 <[Rui]> dcordes_: me? no. only if I can get one in near mint at a nice price and sim-unlocked Mar 09 10:32:02 it seems fluid really. looking for captainigloo to release a version with the rearrange feature Mar 09 10:32:19 dcordes_, pong Mar 09 10:32:42 GNUtoo|laptop: did you see black screen regression ? Mar 09 10:32:42 dcordes_, yes I do have n900 Mar 09 10:32:51 dcordes_, sigh no Mar 09 10:33:03 GNUtoo|laptop: the mickey sigh :D Mar 09 10:33:18 nevermind, I will only continue about it once rebuilt again Mar 09 10:33:28 what is the status now? Mar 09 10:33:42 well none. the last status is in broken image Mar 09 10:33:46 now I have a new task for cotulla image: add fennec Mar 09 10:34:10 there should be one browser when we present the image to him Mar 09 10:34:11 fennec Mar 09 10:34:25 yes eve Mar 09 10:34:28 not fennec Mar 09 10:34:34 fennec is very hard to build Mar 09 10:34:36 ah yeah I still would like to add fennec Mar 09 10:34:50 yes that must be changed. I already filed two related bugs Mar 09 10:34:59 then let's solve the problem with black screen Mar 09 10:35:16 you mean I rewrite the fennec build system? Mar 09 10:35:36 huh ? no I mean I want to analyze the problems and report them Mar 09 10:35:36 if fennec fails to build Mar 09 10:35:52 it will be very hard to debug Mar 09 10:35:59 because of the mozilla build system Mar 09 10:36:11 http://bugzilla.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5529 No rule to make target `-lX11' Mar 09 10:36:33 I think I'm almost there. it compiles for at least 20 minutes before that error Mar 09 10:36:35 let's do 1 thing at the same time Mar 09 10:36:36 not 2 Mar 09 10:37:03 what are all the details you have on the backlight? Mar 09 10:37:07 I've an idea Mar 09 10:37:12 you could strace fsodeviced Mar 09 10:37:12 shoot Mar 09 10:37:21 to look what it's doing Mar 09 10:37:27 one new detail is in the logs: Mar 09 10:37:28 strace tell the writes and ioctls etc... Mar 09 10:38:09 in the last image I booted, I had some broken fso. the daemons didn't start. logs only showed "binary launched". in that state the backlight did not get the 0 Mar 09 10:38:09 PaulFertser: I see Mar 09 10:38:24 ok Mar 09 10:38:27 so we can almost be 100% that fso is the bad guy Mar 09 10:38:42 yes but get an image with a good config Mar 09 10:38:46 and strace fsodeviced Mar 09 10:38:51 good config = ? Mar 09 10:38:55 PaulFertser: I assumed CEST/CET=+2/+1... didn't know there are other meanings Mar 09 10:39:02 dcordes_, the one I pushed Mar 09 10:39:07 the one you made Mar 09 10:39:11 that is pushed Mar 09 10:39:19 dude I have autorev ... Mar 09 10:39:20 antrik: it is, just Doc used it with a broad meaning. Mar 09 10:39:41 dcordes_, yes I know, it was just to tell you to use a clean one Mar 09 10:39:45 not a modded after one Mar 09 10:39:46 ok Mar 09 10:40:33 I will prepare the image. in the meantime do you have any thought on missing -lX11 during fennec do_compile ? Mar 09 10:40:43 libx11 package is compiled. Mar 09 10:40:46 I can't Mar 09 10:40:53 my internet connection is way to slow Mar 09 10:40:57 maybe if I restart it? Mar 09 10:42:42 I'll restart it Mar 09 10:42:54 PaulFertser: oh, right, it wasn't you... Mar 09 10:52:37 is it possible to apply update-rc.d to a target image from host machine ? Mar 09 10:52:48 so I don't have to make symlinks manually Mar 09 10:56:56 dcordes_, back, not sure if it's faster Mar 09 10:58:08 linux kernel: Mar 09 10:58:16 0% [ ] 19,848 2.07K/s eta 9h 38m Mar 09 10:58:54 iftop is way lower than 25kb Mar 09 10:58:57 b beeing bits Mar 09 11:09:43 dcordes_, note that I don't have a lot of time theses days Mar 09 11:10:08 for fennec I can look but *only if it's fast and easy* Mar 09 11:10:40 dcordes_, did you use the stock recipe for fennec? Mar 09 11:11:19 Date: Sat Nov 27 17:09:36 2010 +0100 Mar 09 11:11:23 that's the last update Mar 09 11:11:27 should I try that Mar 09 11:11:34 or do you need a more recent one Mar 09 11:11:39 s/need/have/ Mar 09 11:11:41 GNUtoo|laptop meant: or do you have a more recent one Mar 09 11:12:27 GNUtoo|laptop: I used the one in org.oe.dev Mar 09 11:12:42 GNUtoo|laptop: I tried more recent one but it emmits additional dependency problems Mar 09 11:14:36 ok Mar 09 11:14:40 I'll try the oe one Mar 09 11:14:46 there is a more recent one? Mar 09 11:14:48 where is it? Mar 09 11:17:33 I discarded it, sorry Mar 09 11:17:45 you can look up the srcrevs in moz gitweb Mar 09 11:18:00 but we first need to solve the No rule to make target `-lX11' Mar 09 11:18:03 problem Mar 09 11:18:07 dcordes_, ah ok you don't have a more recent bb Mar 09 11:18:10 I'm almost sure it will occur with any srcrev Mar 09 11:18:20 you did just a more recent stcrev Mar 09 11:18:21 ok Mar 09 11:18:24 I'll look Mar 09 11:18:43 but try to fix the backlight issue Mar 09 11:18:52 ask fso people if you have trouble with it Mar 09 11:19:02 like mickey|bbl Mar 09 11:19:07 maybe in the mailing list Mar 09 11:19:11 fso-userland Mar 09 11:26:08 GNUtoo|laptop: my motivation in fennec use is to push SHR sexyness Mar 09 11:26:20 it's good that pidgin is already included Mar 09 11:26:33 well known problems make the env familiar to the user and they feel better about it !! Mar 09 11:26:40 s/problems/programs/ Mar 09 11:26:41 dcordes_ meant: well known programs make the env familiar to the user and they feel better about it !! Mar 09 11:27:20 ok Mar 09 11:29:07 should we add fennec by default in SHR for all fast machines ? Mar 09 11:32:32 <[Rui]> dcordes_: pidgin? meh... Mar 09 11:32:43 <[Rui]> dcordes_: pidgin needs a new UI oriented towards small screens. Mar 09 11:32:47 <[Rui]> I might try to do that one day Mar 09 11:33:01 <[Rui]> some efl program that integrates with libpurple Mar 09 11:36:22 GNUtoo|laptop: we might add scripts to switch between landscape and portrait xorg.conf and add them as landscape.desktop and portrait.desktop to the menu Mar 09 11:36:29 GNUtoo|laptop: for the msm_fb devices Mar 09 11:36:46 [Rui]: pidgin works well on my wvga device Mar 09 11:36:54 dcordes_, ok later Mar 09 11:36:56 you'll do it Mar 09 11:37:03 just do a recipe shipping the script Mar 09 11:37:11 so it's handled by the package manager Mar 09 11:37:56 lrwxrwxrwx 1 gnutoo gnutoo 15 2011-01-15 16:10 libX11.so -> libX11.so.6.3.0 Mar 09 11:37:58 I've that Mar 09 11:38:08 <[Rui]> dcordes_: it doesn't on vga Mar 09 11:38:08 oops Mar 09 11:38:11 sorry wrong channel Mar 09 12:18:59 is there a good reason to use libpurple directly? telepathy seems to be where most of the love goes nowadays... anything fundamentally wrong with telepathy? Mar 09 12:23:59 dcordes_: it's not possible to add fennec for all devices, because it doesn't compile for armv4t Mar 09 12:30:33 HeinervdmWork: any fundamental problem, or just some minor quirks? Mar 09 12:32:44 antrik: they use asm instructions that don't exist on armv4t Mar 09 12:34:03 why do they use asm instructions at all?... Mar 09 12:35:15 because of speed optimization, before they've added that asm code fennec was damn slow Mar 09 12:43:29 * JaMa leaving to Austria again.. cya on Monday Mar 09 12:45:38 Hello Mar 09 12:46:00 who is in charge of pre2 kernel ? Mar 09 12:46:12 where do I repport bugs ? :) Mar 09 12:51:25 HeinervdmWork: 12:27 < dcordes_> should we add fennec by default in SHR for all ->_fast_<- machines ? Mar 09 12:52:26 dcordes_: ok, haven't seen that fast :) Mar 09 13:04:23 HeinervdmWork: and that code is not optional?... Mar 09 13:05:41 antrik: not as far as i've seen. But as it was so slow i haven't spend a lot of time trying Mar 09 13:08:20 well, I can't imagine the difference being that large really, unless something is seriously broken in the toolchain Mar 09 13:31:03 GNUtoo|laptop: can you outline how you use rmnet in fso ? Mar 09 13:34:06 dcordes_, go in settings Mar 09 13:34:11 go in connectivigy Mar 09 13:34:14 set apn Mar 09 13:34:25 put a blank user and password if needed Mar 09 13:34:27 and connect Mar 09 13:37:26 dcordes_, maybe bugreport to the mailing list Mar 09 13:37:38 for oe stuff Mar 09 13:39:13 I asked ml vs bz but people ignored me Mar 09 14:47:14 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, I am back to normal mode: fso works, black screen is back Mar 09 14:48:42 GNUtoo|laptop: I think this fact is important: in your n900/nexus image, problem doesn't exist Mar 09 14:48:42 strace fsodeviced Mar 09 14:48:53 maybe older fso Mar 09 14:48:56 strace fso Mar 09 14:49:26 gettimeofday({1299673204, 310577}, NULL) = 0 Mar 09 14:49:27 write(2, "2011-03-09T12:20:04.310577Z [CRI"..., 992011-03-09T12:20:04.310577Z [CRITICAL] subsystem : Can't claim busname org.freesmartphone.odeviced Mar 09 14:49:29 ) = 99 Mar 09 14:49:32 write(2, "Aborting due to critical error:\n"..., 82Aborting due to critical error: Mar 09 14:49:35 'Can't claim busname org.freesmartphone.odeviced' Mar 09 14:49:37 ) = 82 Mar 09 14:49:40 exit_group(1) = ? Mar 09 14:49:42 Process 1999 detached Mar 09 14:49:45 obviously stop dbus first Mar 09 14:49:47 and restart it Mar 09 14:49:52 ok Mar 09 14:50:17 for me it's not obvious. I know nothing about dbus Mar 09 14:50:34 root@htcdream ~ # /etc/init.d/dbus-1 stop Mar 09 14:50:40 root@htcdream ~ # /etc/init.d/dbus-1 start Mar 09 14:52:08 ok after I do that, I still get "can't claim" Mar 09 14:52:27 kill fsodeviced then Mar 09 14:52:56 alright it works I'm stracing Mar 09 14:53:02 ok Mar 09 14:53:06 let me find the regex for you Mar 09 14:53:42 when I tap the screen it outputs some thousand jiggalines Mar 09 14:55:23 GNUtoo|laptop: how do you know it is the fsodeviced ? Mar 09 14:55:29 there is no proof Mar 09 14:57:21 I don't know Mar 09 14:57:23 GNUtoo|laptop: ha! I removed fsodeviced from path and it still goes black Mar 09 14:57:27 that's why I strace it Mar 09 14:57:38 mv /usr/sbin/fosdeviced / Mar 09 14:58:11 basically I'd like to do that as regex Mar 09 14:58:12 open("/sys/class/backlight", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|0x80000) = 4 Mar 09 14:58:13 I am now probing fso*d that way Mar 09 14:58:16 re-use the 4 Mar 09 14:58:24 to grep wirte(4, Mar 09 14:58:42 strace fsodeviced 2>&1 | grep -e "open(\".*backlight" -e "write(" Mar 09 14:58:53 with the above regex you could look manually Mar 09 14:58:58 is it not sufficient to grep for "*backlight*" ? Mar 09 14:59:02 or use tee to look automatically Mar 09 14:59:09 grep for backlight Mar 09 14:59:17 it's backlight in leds Mar 09 14:59:18 ah Mar 09 14:59:19 no Mar 09 14:59:30 you want the open and write syscalls Mar 09 15:00:06 ok Mar 09 15:01:55 btw I prepared a script to prepare the rootfs directly from OE tarball for cotulla Mar 09 15:02:54 GNUtoo|laptop: ok I did this: "mv /usr/sbin/fso* /; shutdown -r now" Mar 09 15:02:56 black screen Mar 09 15:03:12 open("/sys/class/backlight/trout-backlight/brightness", O_WRONLY) = 56 Mar 09 15:03:12 write(56, "31", 2) = 2 Mar 09 15:03:23 with fsodeviced+phoneuid Mar 09 15:03:26 # ps -A | grep fso Mar 09 15:03:26 # Mar 09 15:03:28 it writes to that file Mar 09 15:03:36 no fso* but still black screen Mar 09 15:03:37 oops Mar 09 15:03:45 I meant fsodeviced + phonefsod Mar 09 15:03:46 I think it makes the strace worthless Mar 09 15:04:34 you need both Mar 09 15:04:45 at worse I ssh into the phone Mar 09 15:04:50 you remove the sim Mar 09 15:04:55 and what's confidential Mar 09 15:05:31 hald-addo 554 root txt REG 179,1 11500 44887 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-generic-backlight ? Mar 09 15:05:47 try removing udev Mar 09 15:05:52 try removing stuff Mar 09 15:06:07 let'S reboot without /usr/bin/phoneui* Mar 09 15:06:33 boot without dbus Mar 09 15:06:34 and look Mar 09 15:07:00 ok Mar 09 15:09:30 what parts of shr / fso take the role of power managers or control leds and backlight Mar 09 15:09:40 fsodeviced Mar 09 15:09:46 what other parts Mar 09 15:09:49 it controles leds and backlight Mar 09 15:09:51 for leds Mar 09 15:09:54 it power them off Mar 09 15:09:55 at boot Mar 09 15:10:00 it's not starting. Mar 09 15:10:09 ok Mar 09 15:10:14 so you removed dbus Mar 09 15:10:18 and it's not going black Mar 09 15:10:20 right? Mar 09 15:10:29 what si dbus Mar 09 15:10:30 path Mar 09 15:10:32 ? Mar 09 15:10:51 of what? Mar 09 15:11:02 dbus Mar 09 15:11:12 ah Mar 09 15:11:17 /etc/init.d/dbus-1 Mar 09 15:11:23 that's for the system bus Mar 09 15:11:30 ojk Mar 09 15:11:30 for the session bus it's in Mar 09 15:11:38 /etc/X11/Xsession.d I think Mar 09 15:11:46 I shut down the dream Mar 09 15:12:07 lol it is still going black when I chmod -x /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm Mar 09 15:12:53 poor rootfs is totally crippled by now Mar 09 15:12:57 ok Mar 09 15:12:59 rebooting Mar 09 15:13:12 try to disable the session bus Mar 09 15:13:17 the one that works with X11 Mar 09 15:13:17 I hope they reply on fennec. I really would like to try it in fso Mar 09 15:13:20 uuh shr Mar 09 15:13:24 chmod -x it too Mar 09 15:13:29 ok I did Mar 09 15:13:36 mdbus2 -s Mar 09 15:13:37 mdbus2 Mar 09 15:13:41 try theses 2 commands Mar 09 15:13:46 look if it returns something Mar 09 15:13:56 lol it's fixed Mar 09 15:14:03 I think it really is dbus Mar 09 15:14:07 maybe instead of spending countless hours on a workarround Mar 09 15:14:12 just ask cotulla to fix it Mar 09 15:14:17 changing from backlight to led Mar 09 15:14:25 *from led to backlight Mar 09 15:14:33 you'll need it anyway Mar 09 15:14:38 ok then. I will stop it and leave it up to him Mar 09 15:14:48 I can point to commit that does that Mar 09 15:14:52 it's really easy to do Mar 09 15:14:53 what conclusion can we draw ? Mar 09 15:15:01 ship the image Mar 09 15:15:08 what commit? give me the details pls Mar 09 15:15:16 ah the commit Mar 09 15:15:18 let me find it Mar 09 15:15:25 it's in leviathan-incomming Mar 09 15:16:21 I could test rmnet before I ship Mar 09 15:16:46 for me it works Mar 09 15:16:51 try it if you want Mar 09 15:17:11 I could have given it to him already: two points: a) I don't want him to hate it on first sight b) I don't want him tofight trivial userspace problems as he wants to focus on alsa Mar 09 15:20:43 ok Mar 09 15:20:50 but for the display it's easy to fix Mar 09 15:29:50 lol I made an extremely funny script to prepare htcleo oe shr rootfs for hd2 Mar 09 15:30:34 what's the script? Mar 09 15:30:42 I will upload everyhing Mar 09 15:35:38 GNUtoo|laptop: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/~lgorris/shr-hd2-scriptum.tar.gz Mar 09 15:35:48 ok Mar 09 15:35:52 I'll look later Mar 09 15:36:02 don't execute it. it actually works but it is just to show you what I do to our rootfs ! Mar 09 15:36:03 trying to see what's going wrong with my internet connection Mar 09 15:36:06 and it's funny Mar 09 15:36:38 I didn't touch oe metadata except for adding task-sdk-native Mar 09 15:37:05 lol 80sec Mar 09 15:37:25 this phone will autodistruct in 80sec Mar 09 15:37:37 (if you try to root it) Mar 09 15:38:10 ;) Mar 09 15:38:40 in mission impossible 2 there is a scene where they tell that sean ambrose is watching all new agency Mar 09 15:38:42 here it would be Mar 09 15:38:45 adb is perfect for people who boot windows here and now Mar 09 15:38:58 if they make a new phone we'll know because we are watching all mailing lists Mar 09 15:39:06 haha Mar 09 15:39:20 also Mar 09 15:39:33 at the scene where they are in the desert with the computer Mar 09 15:39:38 you do s/computer/phone Mar 09 15:39:46 isn't there a phone that can do it faster Mar 09 15:39:58 no the openmoko is the most free phone that we have Mar 09 15:40:09 and it the only one that can do that Mar 09 15:41:46 (because in the free software movie it would be the only one with free software GPS or something like that) Mar 09 15:42:39 I'll go soon Mar 09 15:42:42 be back later Mar 09 15:43:22 heh Mar 09 15:43:23 ok see you soon Mar 09 16:08:29 GNUtoo|laptop: I added a hack to turn on brightness via xserver-nodm after delay Mar 09 16:08:42 ok Mar 09 16:08:59 like "xinit ... & sleep 6 && echo 255 > ..." Mar 09 16:09:06 ok Mar 09 16:09:09 just so you know what's going on if it will ever be debugged Mar 09 16:09:21 compressing now ;) Mar 09 16:09:24 finally ! Mar 09 16:09:39 I even checked phone with my orange.fr sim Mar 09 16:59:23 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rb2d2b73717ba 10/fsoaudiod/src/plugins/manager/plugin.vala: fsoaudiod: manager: finish implementation of all dbus api methods Mar 09 16:59:24 heyho Mar 09 16:59:25 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r04f4ca6d22f8 10/fsoaudiod/src/plugins/manager/plugin.vala: fsoaudiod: manager: store device and control settings per mode and not globally Mar 09 16:59:26 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r2535e015953f 10/fsoaudiod/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsoaudiod: import alsa utlities from fsodeviced Mar 09 17:00:53 hey morphis Mar 09 17:01:30 mrmoku: I hope the api fits now into what you need for SHR :) Mar 09 17:08:38 morphis: how far is the alsa part? Mar 09 17:08:58 mrmoku: I am currently reworking the router plugin from fsodeviced Mar 09 17:09:33 ok Mar 09 17:09:35 currently it's the scenario loading part Mar 09 17:09:55 after that I have to do the mapping scenario <-> mode:device Mar 09 17:10:06 switching libphone-ui to it should not be too hard Mar 09 17:10:14 it's nicely centralized in one place Mar 09 17:10:19 in the end there will be a alsa.conf where you can define the mapping like the following Mar 09 17:10:30 [call.headset] Mar 09 17:10:36 scenario = gsmheadset Mar 09 17:10:46 mrmoku: great Mar 09 17:11:04 mrmoku: I hope the alsa router will be done tomorrow Mar 09 17:11:12 great Mar 09 17:11:16 but I cannot really test it as my gta02 is at home Mar 09 17:11:38 * mrmoku checks his calendar Mar 09 17:12:06 morphis: should be able to do that Mar 09 17:12:19 will look into libphone-ui later today Mar 09 17:12:28 ok Mar 09 17:12:34 GNUtoo|laptop: heyho Mar 09 17:13:25 morphis: looking at the API... maybe a AvailableDevicesChanged signal would be interesting too Mar 09 17:13:53 mrmoku: but it only changes on daemon startup Mar 09 17:13:58 never after it Mar 09 17:14:08 hmm... what if you connect your bt headset afterwards? Mar 09 17:14:26 you can even route to your headset when it is not inserted Mar 09 17:14:43 but I don't think that should be part of fsoaudiod Mar 09 17:14:47 how do I know then if it is functional? Mar 09 17:14:58 the bt headset? Mar 09 17:15:11 yup Mar 09 17:15:31 probably not job of the audio manager anyway... Mar 09 17:16:44 jepp Mar 09 17:16:57 that should be part of fsodeviced or some other daemon Mar 09 17:17:23 libphone-ui have combine both domains, the audio and the bluetooth to determine how to route audio Mar 09 17:21:56 ok Mar 09 17:24:47 GNUtoo|laptop: we might add some alsa headers in the next image Mar 09 17:43:24 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rc6d96490b818 10/libfsobasics/tests/testutilities.vala: libfsobasics: tests: add some more enum converting tests Mar 09 18:07:11 ok I have some interesting SHR first use impressions Mar 09 18:08:01 it confirms some of the things I personally think should be improved Mar 09 18:17:53 so I just gave ans shr rootfs to a friend and he says he's experiencing a bug with illume-home being white Mar 09 18:18:18 also after a reboot it will work and then turn white again Mar 09 18:19:33 is it some known problem? Mar 09 18:41:44 dcordes_: does it come back when pressing the home button? Mar 09 18:45:11 mrmoku: he rewrote the rootfs and switched to elfe now Mar 09 18:45:18 mrmoku: couldn't tell but thx Mar 09 18:48:46 dcordes_: I have the same after switching to elfe on my FR Mar 09 18:49:07 white desktop on start... after switching to illume-home by pressing the button all is fine Mar 09 18:49:10 and home button fixes it ? it occured before he loaded elfe module Mar 09 18:49:15 ok Mar 09 18:49:43 hmmm... before loading elfe module... maybe the problem is not even related to elfe then Mar 09 18:49:54 ya Mar 09 18:50:06 but nvm, maybe it was file corruption Mar 09 18:50:17 ok Mar 09 18:52:12 I think we should make a central wiki page with policies Mar 09 18:52:27 where we list things like the "gui guide" somebody referred to yesterday Mar 09 18:52:54 this will promote the discussion about where to go with shr and easy documenting this Mar 09 18:52:57 dcordes_, ok Mar 09 18:53:16