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Mar 18 09:40:28 <morphis> heyho
Mar 18 09:46:05 <morphis> mickey|office: heyho
Mar 18 09:46:31 <mickey|office> morning morphis 
Mar 18 09:50:18 <morphis> mickey|office: everything fine?
Mar 18 09:50:36 <mickey|office> still a bit dizzy and a light cough, but mostly ok, thanks
Mar 18 09:54:21 <mickey|office> i'd like to look at the state of things this weekend, if you have a moment to assist
Mar 18 09:54:27 <mickey|office> saturday or so
Mar 18 09:54:39 <morphis> hm, I am in hamburg these weekend
Mar 18 09:54:50 <mickey|office> ok, np. i can try the fso installer on my own
Mar 18 09:54:58 <morphis> sunday evening would be possible
Mar 18 09:55:00 <morphis> ok
Mar 18 09:55:22 <morphis> do you need some tips how to start?
Mar 18 09:56:08 <mrmoku> moin
Mar 18 09:56:27 <mrmoku> mickey|office: dunno if you saw it... but with your minimal image all is fine for me
Mar 18 09:56:43 <mrmoku> now we have to check for differences
Mar 18 09:57:31 <mickey|office> mrmoku: no, i didn't see that. that's -kind of- good news
Mar 18 09:57:38 <mickey|office> so you know i didn't make that up ;)
Mar 18 09:57:46 <mrmoku> :)
Mar 18 09:58:04 <mrmoku> mickey|office: one maybe relevant difference is that your image has both libnl (1+2)
Mar 18 09:58:08 <mickey|office> hmm
Mar 18 09:58:26 <morphis> mickey|office: if you can start with a clean installed device, run the webos doctor before
Mar 18 09:58:30 <mickey|office> does anything actually link against it?
Mar 18 09:58:53 <mrmoku> dunno how to check that...
Mar 18 09:59:20 <mickey|office> hmm, ldd and grep?
Mar 18 09:59:31 <mrmoku> sure, but no ldd installed in the image
Mar 18 09:59:32 <mickey|office> or - just remove libnl1 and try 
Mar 18 09:59:41 <mrmoku> ahh, that might be an idea :)
Mar 18 10:00:05 <mrmoku> will do that when it finished charging
Mar 18 10:00:41 <mrmoku> mickey|office: another thing regarding the doubled SMS problem... on thing you added right before that started to happen is +CSMS=1
Mar 18 10:00:45 <mrmoku> could that be related?
Mar 18 10:01:46 <morphis> mickey|office: do will use your own compiled image or should I compile one?
Mar 18 10:02:58 <mrmoku> mickey|office: if that could be related would it be possible to try by sending +CSMS=0 via mdbus?
Mar 18 11:14:23 <mrmoku> alexxy: maybe just try it... 
Mar 18 11:15:12 <alexxy> mrmoku: ?
Mar 18 11:15:19 <mrmoku> alexxy: when it is registered... use mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand "AT+CSMS=0" ""
Mar 18 11:15:33 <mrmoku> then send yourself a message and check if it get's doubled
Mar 18 11:15:57 <alexxy> mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand "AT+CSMS=0" ""
Mar 18 11:15:57 <alexxy> ("
Mar 18 11:15:57 <alexxy> ERROR")
Mar 18 11:16:12 <mrmoku> hmm
Mar 18 11:16:14 <GNUtoo> alexxy, wrong command
Mar 18 11:16:22 <GNUtoo> alexxy, try main as channel
Mar 18 11:16:38 <alexxy> mm?
Mar 18 11:16:50 <GNUtoo> org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand require a channel argument
Mar 18 11:16:53 <GNUtoo> you put ""
Mar 18 11:16:56 <GNUtoo> put main instead
Mar 18 11:17:08 <mrmoku> The channel to send this command on. Set to "" to use the default one.
Mar 18 11:17:13 <mrmoku> (from specs)
Mar 18 11:17:18 <GNUtoo> ah ok
Mar 18 11:17:20 <GNUtoo> sorry then
Mar 18 11:17:29 <GNUtoo> and you send +something
Mar 18 11:17:29 <mrmoku> though no idea if default would be the correct channel
Mar 18 11:17:33 <GNUtoo> or AT+something?
Mar 18 11:17:41 <mrmoku> that is not written there :P
Mar 18 11:17:48 <GNUtoo> so look in the logs
Mar 18 11:17:50 <mrmoku> alexxy: maybe try without AT?
Mar 18 11:18:52 <GNUtoo> the logs will tell if it's doing ATAT+something
Mar 18 11:18:56 <GNUtoo> or AT+something
Mar 18 11:18:58 <alexxy> mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand "+CSMS=0" "main"
Mar 18 11:18:59 <alexxy> ("
Mar 18 11:18:59 <alexxy> OK")
Mar 18 11:19:00 <GNUtoo> or +sometjhing
Mar 18 11:19:02 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 18 11:19:10 <mrmoku> good
Mar 18 11:19:14 <GNUtoo> :)
Mar 18 11:19:27 <GNUtoo> mrmoku, maybe we could try that:
Mar 18 11:19:34 <GNUtoo> download mickeyl image
Mar 18 11:19:39 <GNUtoo> and import fsogsdm from there
Mar 18 11:19:45 <GNUtoo> for n900
Mar 18 11:19:48 <GNUtoo> if it works
Mar 18 11:20:00 <GNUtoo> look with nm, the revisions etc...
Mar 18 11:21:15 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: my battery will finish charging soon... then I will try to remove libnl1 and see it it is still working
Mar 18 11:21:53 <GNUtoo> rty to remove? how?
Mar 18 11:21:59 <alexxy> mrmoku: it still stores sms on sim
Mar 18 11:22:03 <mrmoku> ok
Mar 18 11:22:17 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: opkg remove --force-depends
Mar 18 11:22:29 <GNUtoo> what if it's linked to it?
Mar 18 11:22:39 <GNUtoo> it won't magically recompile itself
Mar 18 11:22:42 <GNUtoo> that is to say
Mar 18 11:22:53 <GNUtoo> it will fail to run like when a lib is lacking
Mar 18 11:23:17 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: but then we know it _is_ linked against it
Mar 18 11:23:25 <GNUtoo> ldd will tell
Mar 18 11:23:28 <mrmoku> and that the problem might be libnl1 related
Mar 18 11:23:47 <GNUtoo> yes that's a huge possibility
Mar 18 11:23:54 <mrmoku> hmm... I could use oe's cross ldd and my card reader too...
Mar 18 11:24:38 <GNUtoo> ah you can't opkg install ldd on target?
Mar 18 11:24:44 <GNUtoo> because ldd is meant to run on target
Mar 18 11:24:54 <GNUtoo> cross ldd has other names
Mar 18 11:25:00 <GNUtoo> such as readelf
Mar 18 11:25:07 <GNUtoo> and objdump
Mar 18 11:25:11 <mrmoku> GNUtoo: dunno if mickey|office has a feed too
Mar 18 11:25:12 <GNUtoo> but they are harder to read
Mar 18 11:25:15 <mrmoku> it is not in the image
Mar 18 11:25:25 <GNUtoo> then take it from another image
Mar 18 11:25:29 <GNUtoo> it's just a shell script
Mar 18 11:25:37 <GNUtoo> (with security bugs)
Mar 18 11:25:41 <mrmoku> :)
Mar 18 11:25:48 <mrmoku> ok, will try that then
Mar 18 11:25:52 <mrmoku> brb
Mar 18 11:26:12 <GNUtoo> other OS uses different system than exporting variables
Mar 18 11:26:28 <GNUtoo> basically with the right file you could trigger execution of code
Mar 18 11:26:36 <GNUtoo> ./ldd suspicious_thing
Mar 18 11:26:40 <GNUtoo> and it executes code
Mar 18 11:53:10 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r38fdeaa5b51f 10/libmsmcomm/ (4 files in 4 dirs): libmsmcomm: more detail work on sms response messages
Mar 18 12:25:04 <mrmoku> mickey|office, GNUtoo: root@nokia900:~# fsogsmd
Mar 18 12:25:04 <mrmoku> fsogsmd: error while loading shared libraries: libnl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Mar 18 12:25:31 <GNUtoo> yes that's what I told you :)
Mar 18 12:25:41 <GNUtoo> it's linked at compilation time
Mar 18 12:25:46 <mrmoku> I know
Mar 18 12:25:51 <GNUtoo> yes I bet so
Mar 18 12:25:55 <mrmoku> :)
Mar 18 12:26:06 <mrmoku> it could have been linked to libnl2 though
Mar 18 12:26:11 <GNUtoo> ok
Mar 18 12:26:28 <mrmoku> now we know that it is linked against libnl1 in mickey's minimal image
Mar 18 12:26:34 <mrmoku> and linbnl2 on our image
Mar 18 12:27:25 <GNUtoo> import fsogsmd from mickeyl's image
Mar 18 12:27:32 <GNUtoo> along with libnl.so.1
Mar 18 12:30:23 <mrmoku> is that enough?
Mar 18 12:30:26 <mrmoku> what about libgisi?
Mar 18 12:30:47 <GNUtoo> try that
Mar 18 12:30:53 <GNUtoo> if you think it's libnl
Mar 18 12:31:08 <GNUtoo> then if something is lacking, import it
Mar 18 12:31:28 <mrmoku> ok
Mar 18 12:35:13 <mickey|office> d'oh
Mar 18 12:35:16 <mickey|office> interesting find
Mar 18 12:37:03 <GNUtoo> indeed mrmoku had this idea since the beginning
Mar 18 12:37:10 <GNUtoo> when he diffed the testlab
Mar 18 12:37:18 <GNUtoo> he just wanted to test
Mar 18 12:37:32 <mrmoku> mickey|office: would it be easy for you to build an image without libnl1? 
Mar 18 12:38:27 * JaMa had to manually remove all traces of libnl1 from sysroots/pstage/pkgdata/shlibs before first trully libnl1-free image :/
Mar 18 12:38:39 <JaMa> packaged staging somehow fails in this case
Mar 18 12:38:45 <mrmoku> hmm
Mar 18 12:39:08 <mickey|office> i don't know what actually drags libnl1 in
Mar 18 12:39:08 <JaMa> so rebuild from scratch is not that bad in this case :/
Mar 18 12:40:05 <JaMa> mickey|office: maybe libnl1 was in sysroot for long time? ie from old bluez we had few months ago?
Mar 18 12:41:02 <mrmoku> mickey|office: fsodatad -> libnl1;
Mar 18 12:41:23 <mrmoku> fsodeviced -> libnl1;
Mar 18 12:41:29 <mrmoku> fsogsmd -> libnl1;
Mar 18 12:41:31 <JaMa> mickey|office: you can try to apply this http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/9d75b8b051f14f8c2217510aef12355018b1790b to see if you don't have something special in image still dragging it
Mar 18 12:41:35 <mrmoku> fsonetworkd -> libnl1;
Mar 18 12:42:43 <mrmoku> actually all fso stuff + mkdump + mterm2
Mar 18 12:42:54 <mrmoku> (according to depends-nokernel.dot)
Mar 18 12:49:48 <mickey|office> strange
Mar 18 12:50:21 <mickey|office> will have a look when i'm at home
Mar 18 12:50:33 <mickey|office> i sincerely hope that it comes from the mix
Mar 18 12:50:43 <mickey|office> and not from libnl2 changing semantics in one or the other place
Mar 18 12:50:54 <mickey|office> otherwise we would need to debug gisi :/
Mar 18 12:52:24 <JaMa> there should be newest fso+gisi in n900 image on buildhost if it could be usefull
Mar 18 12:52:25 <mickey|office> JaMa: my browser doesn't display anything for that link. can you pastebin instead?
Mar 18 12:52:32 <JaMa> sure
Mar 18 12:52:34 <mickey|office> thanks
Mar 18 12:53:10 <JaMa> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/355513/
Mar 18 12:53:34 <mickey|office> hmm
Mar 18 12:53:37 <mickey|office> ok, this won't help
Mar 18 12:53:44 <mickey|office> as minimal has nothing to do with angstrom
Mar 18 12:54:01 <mickey|office> but i'll have a look how i can do the equivalent for minimal
Mar 18 12:54:21 <JaMa> #activate the angstrom blacklister
Mar 18 12:54:21 <JaMa> INHERIT += "angstrom"
Mar 18 12:54:26 <JaMa> should be enough
Mar 18 12:55:13 <JaMa> sorry I didn't notice that minimal is meant like OE distro (not image)
Mar 18 12:56:05 <JaMa> then also this line could be usefull ANGSTROM_BLACKLIST_pn-libnl = "libnld has been replaced by libnl2"
Mar 18 12:57:49 <JaMa> btw as there is enough problems from libnl1/libnl2 coexistance, would you mind if I rename libnl2_2.0.bb to libnl_2.0.bb and that way force only one version to be built?
Mar 18 12:58:13 <JaMa> openembedded-core already has meta/recipes-support/libnl/libnl_2.0.bb so we'll have to switch sometime
Mar 18 13:00:25 <mickey|office> sounds good to me
Mar 18 14:09:19 <JaMa> mickey|office: libnl2->libnl patches sent to OE ML :)
Mar 18 14:10:00 <mickey|office> cool, thanks
Mar 18 14:41:55 <GNUtoo> sigh sigh sigh, I should not have touched a phone yet
Mar 18 14:42:04 <GNUtoo> this media-ctl thing is driving me mad
Mar 18 15:30:44 <mickey|office> what is media-ctl?
Mar 18 19:46:28 <shade-khv1> Hello
Mar 18 19:47:33 <shade-khv1> in the http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Developing%20your%20own%20applications at the step 5. Building a package there are $ . setup-env command
Mar 18 19:47:57 <shade-khv1> What means this dot-space-setup-env
Mar 18 19:48:10 <shade-khv1> is it equal to ./setup-env?
Mar 18 19:53:32 <PaulFertser> shade-khv1: no, it's equal to "source setup-env"
Mar 18 19:56:15 <shade-khv1> when i'm trying to do it i have error  "environment: TOPDIR not defined"  despite /conf/topdir.conf exists and contains environment: TOPDIR='/OE/shr-testing'
Mar 18 19:57:20 <shade-khv1> i have same error even if i inserts TOPDIR='/OE/shr-testing' in the beginnig of setup-env
Mar 18 20:11:04 <shade-khv1> solved
Mar 18 20:13:08 <shade-khv1> i had to done $ sudo ./shr-chroot.sh
Mar 18 20:13:09 <shade-khv1> $ su - bitbake
Mar 18 20:13:09 <shade-khv1> cd shr-testing
Mar 18 20:13:09 <shade-khv1> . ./setup-env
Mar 18 20:13:35 <shade-khv1> like in building shr image
Mar 18 20:22:02 <morphis> heyho
Mar 18 20:28:00 <shade-khv1> Uraaa! I ve just compiled my first heelo world for Neo ^)
Mar 18 20:28:18 <shade-khv1> Hi morphis ^
Mar 18 20:28:32 <morphis> shade-khv1: yeah!
Mar 18 20:28:38 <morphis> with OE or toolchain?
Mar 18 20:28:51 <shade-khv1> Now i will go sleep ^)
Mar 18 20:29:08 <shade-khv1> Morning is coming ^)
Mar 18 20:29:35 <shade-khv1> with mrMoko's chroot env
Mar 18 20:29:54 <shade-khv1> I think its OE
Mar 18 20:30:10 <shade-khv1> Good bye ^)
Mar 18 21:38:33 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * rb35a0b116526 10/msmcommd/src/modemchannel.vala: msmcommd: even try to check command id of unsolicited responses
Mar 18 21:38:35 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * ra51c4161ffc1 10/msmcommd/src/smsservice.vala: msmcommd: port smsservice to new structure
Mar 18 22:02:57 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07utilities * r2e9c6f7c1a58 10/android/libnetutils/ (13 files in 2 dirs): libnetutils: import from android open source project
Mar 18 22:08:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> leviathan, hi
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