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Mar 21 04:37:57 <plotr> question on shr-u on gta02: when I do "watch -n 1 cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on" I see that for 7 sec. it is "1", than changes to "0" for 1 sec. and again 7 sec. in "1"
Mar 21 04:38:14 <plotr> does it mean that modem power-cycle every 7 sec.?
Mar 21 04:39:23 <plotr> how to change it? e. g. to force it to "1" or "0" and make sure it remains in this state until I echo smth into .../power_on file?
Mar 21 07:42:32 <PaulFertser> plotr: disable everything that might access the modem.
Mar 21 07:42:51 <PaulFertser> plotr: basically, disable phoneuid, frameworkd, fsogsmd, fsousaged etc.
Mar 21 07:43:05 <PaulFertser> plotr: some of those are d-bus activated.
Mar 21 08:21:16 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * re2a9be686b7a 10/libmsmcomm/ (7 files in 4 dirs): libmsmcomm: initial parsing of sms unsolicited messages
Mar 21 08:21:19 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r044ae7944278 10/libmsmcomm/ (6 files in 4 dirs): libmsmcomm: add sms message to configure gateway type
Mar 21 08:51:10 <morphis> heyho
Mar 21 08:51:12 <morphis> mrmoku: ping
Mar 21 09:09:17 <radekp> mickey|office: hi, i'd like to write tool for autogenerating C++ code for FSO api, is there something like .xml describing FSO dbus api?
Mar 21 09:09:56 <radekp> mickey|office: or any ideas how to generate it are welcome :)
Mar 21 09:10:52 <JaMa> radekp: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=summary
Mar 21 09:11:16 <radekp> JaMa: ahh cool
Mar 21 09:11:21 <radekp> JaMa: thanks :)
Mar 21 09:11:37 <mickey|office> radekp: hi, yes, like JaMa says, for FSO2 we have moved to XML descriptions in order to sync. documentation and code
Mar 21 09:11:58 <mickey|office> the XML descriptions are in usual dbus format, but contain some annotation useful for our binding tool
Mar 21 09:12:04 <mickey|office> they might be useful for yours too
Mar 21 09:12:19 <mickey|office> e.g. where substructures are defined
Mar 21 09:12:31 <radekp> great thanks
Mar 21 09:12:56 <radekp> JaMa: btw i have qtmoko running on SHR rootfs i think i will use SHR as rootfs for qtmoko on FSO
Mar 21 09:13:21 <JaMa> radekp: and tool for C code http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/gdbus-codegen-20100629/gdbus-codegen.html
Mar 21 09:13:28 <JaMa> radekp: great :)
Mar 21 09:14:09 <radekp> JaMa: maybe i could write also bitbake recipe - or how is the openembedded build system called ;-)
Mar 21 09:16:01 <JaMa> radekp: there are some older qte recipes.. but looks like nobody is maintaining them.. so it would be just upgrade of existing recipes mostly :)
Mar 21 09:17:11 <radekp> JaMa: ahh nice i might take a look later, but i now i want to play some with FSO first :)
Mar 21 09:20:29 <morphis> JaMa: I have some local patches for a meta-toolchain-shr, you want to help me getting it in a usable state?
Mar 21 09:20:40 <pespin> Hi guys, it would be great if we could get photos of devices running shr. 
Mar 21 09:20:48 <morphis> as you know maybe better than me what is required for shr development
Mar 21 09:20:54 <morphis> pespin: heyho
Mar 21 09:21:09 <morphis> pespin: will do some photos of the Palm Pre running SHR
Mar 21 09:21:11 <pespin> I'll use them for my presentation this weekend and I'll put them in wiki too ;)
Mar 21 09:21:31 <morphis> pespin: which presentation?
Mar 21 09:21:46 <pespin> morphis, I'm giving a talk this weeked in my university
Mar 21 09:21:51 <morphis> ah ok
Mar 21 09:22:10 <morphis> mickey|office: do you already took a look at fsoaudiod?
Mar 21 09:22:54 <pespin> morphis, thanks for the photos btw :)
Mar 21 09:23:01 <morphis> pespin: no problem
Mar 21 09:23:21 <morphis> pespin: here is already one: http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~morphis/images/palmpre-zhone2.jpg
Mar 21 09:23:29 <morphis> but it's only showing zhone2
Mar 21 09:23:37 <morphis> will do some with SHR UI this evening
Mar 21 09:23:48 <JaMa> morphis: yup, send patches to ML and I'll comment where possible
Mar 21 09:24:43 <morphis> JaMa: ok, I only copied the old fso toolchain and named it with -shr
Mar 21 09:24:56 <morphis> we need to add everything we need to RDEPENDS
Mar 21 09:25:46 <morphis> JaMa: we can even use opkg with the toolchain, right?
Mar 21 09:27:42 <pespin> btw, I'm going to work a bit on Devices in wiki
Mar 21 09:28:00 <pespin> for each device we can, I will make a Devices/Device_Name page
Mar 21 09:28:13 <pespin> with a photo of the device running shr, and links to install guide's, etc.
Mar 21 09:28:34 <morphis> pespin: then you should add a list of "Supported Features" for each device
Mar 21 09:29:27 <pespin> morphis, yeah, but I can't do everything! :P First I will just create the structure so other people which know better his devices can fill them.
Mar 21 09:29:54 <morphis> jepp, structure is ok
Mar 21 09:30:01 <morphis> I can take the part for the Pre devices
Mar 21 09:32:08 <pespin> ok
Mar 21 09:32:59 <pespin> morphis, do you agree to move all those DeviceXXXInstall to Devices/DeviceXXX/INstallGuide
Mar 21 09:33:28 <morphis> pespin: jepp
Mar 21 09:33:39 <morphis> they shoul a common name
Mar 21 09:34:04 <pespin> ok
Mar 21 09:34:26 <JaMa> morphis: IIRC everything needed in toolchain should be in opkg-utils, but not sure
Mar 21 09:34:40 <morphis> ok
Mar 21 09:50:20 <alexxy> mrmoku: ping :)
Mar 21 09:50:32 <alexxy> mrmoku: any news on annoying seen sms issue?
Mar 21 10:04:43 <pespin> morphis, like this -> http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Devices/HTCDream
Mar 21 10:05:18 <morphis> looks good but the text is a little bit too short
Mar 21 10:06:28 <pespin> morphis, yeah it's too short, but I don't have an htcdream ;)
Mar 21 10:06:46 <pespin> hopefully people will fill them over time now it has some minimal structure
Mar 21 10:07:19 <pespin> you can see a list of devices in http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Devices
Mar 21 10:20:51 <dcordes> hi
Mar 21 10:21:12 <morphis> dcordes: heyho
Mar 21 10:23:11 <pespin> dcordes, hi :)
Mar 21 10:24:03 <dcordes> pespin: good to see install guide clean up
Mar 21 10:24:34 <dcordes> on the wiki
Mar 21 10:25:17 <dcordes> pespin: SDK == OE getting started ?
Mar 21 10:25:47 <pespin> dcordes, well, I'm having a quite boring class right now, so it's a good way to pass the time :P
Mar 21 10:26:19 <pespin> dcordes, I don't understand that question about SDK-
Mar 21 10:26:50 <pespin> dcordes, btw, could you upload to wiki / pass me a photo of htc leo running shr when you have some free time? :)
Mar 21 10:27:25 <dcordes> pespin: it's planned actually
Mar 21 10:27:36 <dcordes> for http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Look
Mar 21 10:28:40 <pespin> dcordes, I'm puttin 1 image in each Device page, so people can see how does it looks.
Mar 21 10:28:51 <dcordes> good idea
Mar 21 10:29:00 <pespin> dcordes, see for instance http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Devices/HTCDream
Mar 21 10:29:13 <dcordes> nice
Mar 21 10:30:48 <dcordes> pespin: do you have dream ?
Mar 21 10:31:13 <pespin> dcordes, nope
Mar 21 10:32:14 <dcordes> there is a method to install without the need of a linux machine
Mar 21 10:32:46 <dcordes> http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Rootfs/Userfriendly
Mar 21 10:32:46 <pespin> Lopi, same for you: could you take a photo of iphone using SHR please? we'll use it in wiki + presentations :)
Mar 21 10:33:15 <dcordes> makes it suitable for the average joe to test
Mar 21 10:33:24 <dcordes> can be usedw ith any android device actually
Mar 21 10:34:11 <pespin> dcordes, ok, Ill put it under Useful links :)
Mar 21 10:34:54 <dcordes> we might consider making a less technical user section on each device page
Mar 21 10:35:04 <dcordes> were things like install instructions are put
Mar 21 10:35:29 <dcordes> and concerning install instruction pages it should be made as easy as possible
Mar 21 10:35:32 <dcordes> imho
Mar 21 10:35:46 <dcordes> suitable for non technical people
Mar 21 10:36:29 <pespin> sure
Mar 21 10:36:53 <pespin> but hopefully all this work will be done more easily once we have a bigger user base
Mar 21 10:38:56 <dcordes> well you can shape the process of reaching out do a bigger user base by making everything more accessible for them
Mar 21 10:39:22 <dcordes> if everybody will wait for 'that moment' it will not come
Mar 21 10:40:08 <dcordes> I will put dirt easy guide for leo so even a windows user will be able to install it: extract shr-leo.zip to the root of your sd card. done
Mar 21 10:43:15 <dcordes> cause if I want to make it known, I don't want to put the smartphone blogs 'New Linux based OS for the HD2 spotted in the wild - BUT there is no way in hell you will ever be able to install this. sorry'
Mar 21 10:45:38 <pespin> yeah, I know what you mean.
Mar 21 10:57:08 <morphis> pespin: the image for the palmpre is quite huge ...
Mar 21 10:58:19 <morphis> :)
Mar 21 10:58:47 <morphis> pespin: and maybe we should put a header on each page like "Palm Pre Device Overview
Mar 21 10:58:49 <morphis> "
Mar 21 10:59:27 <pespin> morphis, I don't know how to scale images in trac :P
Mar 21 10:59:42 <morphis> [Image(file.png, 300px)]
Mar 21 10:59:49 <morphis> will set the width to 300px
Mar 21 10:59:56 <pespin> morphis, about header: +1 but I'm finishing class in a min, so I can't do it now ;)
Mar 21 11:00:01 <pespin> ok thanks
Mar 21 11:00:06 <morphis> look at http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiMacros
Mar 21 11:00:19 <morphis> pespin: ok, I already put a header on palm pre page
Mar 21 11:01:10 <pespin> ok thanks
Mar 21 11:01:12 <pespin> bbl
Mar 21 19:00:21 <dadatis> hi, anyone around who knows about building eina, eet, evas on arm7 ?
Mar 21 19:00:34 <dadatis> have been trying to do that with uclinux and no luck so far...
Mar 21 20:04:48 <dadatis> hi morphis, can i ask you about efl on uclinux?
Mar 21 20:05:12 <morphis> dadatis: heyho, if I can answer your question :)
Mar 21 20:05:40 <CIA-66> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r88461a7544ec 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): fsoaudiod: add dummy alsa hooks
Mar 21 20:05:51 <dadatis> ok, i have been trying to compile eina, eet, evas on uclinux but no luck.
Mar 21 20:06:14 <morphis> what means uclinux? OE?
Mar 21 20:06:51 <dadatis> uclinux is linux for controllers with no mmu
Mar 21 20:08:17 <morphis> ok, but which build environment do you use? and what means "no luck"?
Mar 21 20:08:22 <dadatis> have you heard of anyone running efl on arm7 ?
Mar 21 20:09:19 <dadatis> i have seen that it has been done on arm9 and arm11, but i'm trying on arm7....i'm suspecting that it might be not possible :)
Mar 21 20:09:51 <dadatis> i use snapgear toolchain with uclinux-dist
Mar 21 20:10:52 <morphis> ok, never compiled efl without OE for embedded, but what are the errors you get?
Mar 21 20:11:00 <morphis> maybe you should ask in #e17 
Mar 21 20:11:17 <morphis> as there are the developers of efl which maybe have some experiences with your environment
Mar 21 20:11:18 <dadatis> the "no luck" means that eina requires libdl, but uclinux supports only binary flat file format...
Mar 21 20:11:35 <morphis> ok
Mar 21 20:11:39 <morphis> than ask in #e17
Mar 21 20:12:00 <dadatis> ...and especially on "arm no mmu" the libdl is not available :)
Mar 21 20:12:13 <dadatis> thanks, i'll ask there! :)
Mar 21 20:16:02 <anarsoul> dadatis: out of curiosity, why do you need e17 on such kind of hardware?
Mar 21 20:20:52 <dadatis> it's because of the cost :)
Mar 21 20:21:40 <dadatis> but maybe efl is an overkill on such platform for graphics library
Mar 21 20:23:02 <dadatis> i really liked the edje level in efl, when you make the gui in a file
Mar 21 20:26:21 <morphis> GNUtoo|bug20: heyho
Mar 21 20:26:30 <GNUtoo|bug20> hi
Mar 21 20:27:31 <GNUtoo|bug20> what's the procedure for the palm pre 2 ? you get a new mail?
Mar 21 20:27:53 <morphis> GNUtoo|bug20: yes and no, I get a second mail as I asked some other question
Mar 21 20:27:58 <morphis> s/get/got/
Mar 21 20:27:58 <apt> morphis meant: GNUtoo|bug20: yes and no, I got a second mail as I asked some other question
Mar 21 20:28:17 <GNUtoo|bug20> and then you get an ups tracking number?
Mar 21 20:28:23 <morphis> no
Mar 21 20:28:54 <GNUtoo|bug20> ah? it arrives directly but you can't know when?
Mar 21 20:29:11 <morphis> you will recieve someday post from your local dutty office
Mar 21 20:29:20 <GNUtoo|bug20> ah?
Mar 21 20:29:28 <morphis> and one or two weeks later the device arrives
Mar 21 20:29:28 <GNUtoo|bug20> it travels trough normal post office?
Mar 21 20:29:33 <morphis> with UPS
Mar 21 20:29:36 <GNUtoo|bug20> ok
Mar 21 20:29:45 <GNUtoo|bug20> so I receive a letter
Mar 21 20:29:46 <morphis> but it has to pass the dutty office
Mar 21 20:29:56 <morphis> and they will drop you a little info letter
Mar 21 20:29:59 <GNUtoo|bug20> what's the dutty office?
Mar 21 20:30:01 <morphis> nothing you should care about
Mar 21 20:30:02 <GNUtoo|bug20> customs"
Mar 21 20:30:12 <GNUtoo|bug20> customs?
Mar 21 20:30:29 <morphis> customs ... yes
Mar 21 20:30:35 <morphis> I searched for the correct word
Mar 21 20:30:42 <morphis> but customs sounds good
Mar 21 20:30:58 <GNUtoo|bug20> ok
Mar 21 20:31:00 <morphis> btw. I have some not directly phone related task for you if you want :)
Mar 21 20:31:16 <GNUtoo|bug20> you could tell me in private then
Mar 21 20:31:36 <morphis> really?
Mar 21 20:31:40 <morphis> why not in public?
Mar 21 20:31:48 <GNUtoo|bug20> pm me and I'll see
Mar 21 20:31:58 <morphis> ok
Mar 21 21:50:43 <GNUtoo|bug20> hi mrmoku` 
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