**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 15 02:59:57 2011 Apr 15 06:23:15 moin Apr 15 06:29:50 moin Apr 15 07:18:36 shr-core om-gta02 image built and rsynced on buildhost :) Apr 15 07:18:42 rebuilding shr-u in chroot now Apr 15 07:53:35 <[Rui]> JaMa|Wrk: cool! good news! Apr 15 07:53:41 <[Rui]> gotta go Apr 15 08:11:15 gmorning Apr 15 08:30:42 morphis: hi I am doctoring my pre2 because it's quite broken under webos no phone.. but the doctor failed. is there something to do befor the doctor ? Apr 15 08:34:16 mickeyl: morphis: hi I am doctoring my pre2 because it's quite broken under webos no phone.. but the doctor failed. is there something to do befor the doctor ? Apr 15 08:34:30 GarthPS: i had a problem doctoring my pre with the webos 2.1 doctor Apr 15 08:34:41 the 1.4.5 doctor worked fine Apr 15 08:34:52 because it also rebuilds the lvm Apr 15 08:35:06 HeinervdmOff: I have a pre2! Apr 15 08:35:20 is there no 1.4.5 for the pre2? Apr 15 08:35:35 HeinervdmOff: nope it was out with webos 2.0 Apr 15 08:35:40 hmm Apr 15 08:35:46 So I need to do some lvm cleanup right ?. Apr 15 08:36:01 don't know, depends on the problem you have Apr 15 08:36:01 * GarthPS ggrrr not TODAY! Apr 15 08:36:15 what does the error message tell you? Apr 15 08:36:52 HeinervdmOff: .... INFO: Trenchcoat: CPU-specific initialization failed Apr 15 08:37:05 INFO: Trenchcoat: Volume group store not found in existing configuration. Apr 15 08:37:51 and I don't know anything to lvm Apr 15 08:38:09 that looks exactly like the error message i had Apr 15 08:38:26 the problem is that that group is there Apr 15 08:39:48 ok I found this on webosinternal lvm.static pvremove -ff /dev/mmcblk0p3 Apr 15 08:39:52 I am trying it Apr 15 08:40:07 Nope still broken Apr 15 08:40:50 HeinervdmOff: do you have an idea ? Apr 15 08:41:02 no Apr 15 08:41:02 * GarthPS fucking not today! Apr 15 08:45:00 GarthPS: you should maybe ask in #webos-internals Apr 15 08:45:18 I had the problem with my pre too, redoctored with 1.4.5 and then with 2.1 helped me out Apr 15 08:46:20 ls Apr 15 08:47:17 morphis: yes but I have a pre2 is that an issue ? Apr 15 08:47:49 you can modify the 1.4.5 doctor to maybe support the pre2 ... Apr 15 08:47:54 or rebuild the lvm layout on your own Apr 15 08:48:08 holly shit don't have time for that today... :/ Apr 15 08:48:32 morphis: yeah the lvm layout , i like it but don't know nothing about lvm Apr 15 08:48:34 what did you do to come in this state? Apr 15 08:48:40 :) Apr 15 08:48:55 just launche the 2.1 doctor on my shr modified pre2 Apr 15 08:49:15 then I had INFO: Trenchcoat: Volume group store not found in existing configuration. Apr 15 08:49:30 you can take a look into the roadrunner.xml there is the lvm layout Apr 15 08:49:36 I did a lvm.static pvremove -ff /dev/mmcblk0p3 and now I have a "MIGRATION ERROR: failure in preCheck stage" Apr 15 08:49:41 DataPreCheckStage: mount: mounting /dev/mapper/store-media on /tmp_media failed: No such file or directory Apr 15 08:51:02 morphis: Apr 15 08:51:50 morphis: where it is ? Apr 15 08:56:46 morphis: nothing in the xml about lvm interesting Apr 15 09:05:58 morphis: yesterday i played with Qt/Embedded on the Pre and I had problems with the touchscreen. It was only on spot in the middle of the screen, towards the edges the cursor moved wider away than my touch really was. it was very hard to use that way. any idea what that could be? I was using the uinput driver Apr 15 09:07:33 mickey|office: hi . sorry to bother you but do you have an idea to help me there with my broken lvm layout on my pre 2? Apr 15 09:07:44 GarthPS: i'm afraid i have zero knowledge about lvm :/ Apr 15 09:08:01 the doctor failed to reflash Apr 15 09:08:11 cf above Apr 15 09:08:13 GarthPS: if the webos doctor can't help, then #webos-internals is your only bet - or the corresponding forum Apr 15 09:08:35 mickey|office: yeah but noone answered for now Apr 15 09:08:55 mickey|office: and as it is about lvm I thought that... Apr 15 09:09:07 I don't know anything about lvm and to have time today to learn it Apr 15 09:09:32 so in case you now how to remake my layout.. Apr 15 09:26:40 GarthPS: I don't have a quick solution right now and even limited time Apr 15 09:26:58 but this evening I have some more free time Apr 15 09:27:19 mickey|office: hm, do you have a image for me to try it on my own? Apr 15 09:28:45 morphis: ok thx! I hope to be there then and or to fix it Apr 15 09:29:31 * GarthPS moving out appartement today Apr 15 09:29:54 at least first run Apr 15 09:41:06 morphis: no, i installed packages on top of one of yours. i can tell you though how to reproduce Apr 15 09:42:00 morphis: first, build & install a couple of packages: qt4-embedded-qmlviewer, qt4-embedded-plugin-imageformats-jpeg, qt4-embedded-demos, qt4-embedded-ttf-fonts-dejavu Apr 15 09:42:21 morphis: then, export QWS_MOUSE_PROTO="LinuxInput:/dev/input/event6" Apr 15 09:42:36 morphis: jump into /usr/bin/qtopia/demos/declarative/calculator/ Apr 15 09:42:50 morphis: and run qmlviewer -qws -fullscreen -frameless calculator.qml Apr 15 09:42:56 note that you should have dropped out of X before :D Apr 15 10:16:27 mickey|office: morphis: is it possible for you to give me your lvm VolumeGroupName Apr 15 10:16:49 pvscan vgscan would be nice Apr 15 10:17:04 my pre is laying at home Apr 15 10:17:15 mickey|office: :( thx anyway Apr 15 10:17:54 GarthPS: wait a moment Apr 15 10:18:02 morphis: thx! Apr 15 10:18:56 http://pastie.org/1796918 Apr 15 11:16:06 Afternoon all. Apr 15 11:18:03 morphis: it is from your pre right ? because I did create media particion but not it is "MountUtils:mount: mounting /dev/mapper/store-log on /tmp_log failed: No such file or directory Apr 15 11:18:03 " Apr 15 11:18:25 there is even a log parition Apr 15 11:18:57 look at the roadrunner.xml within your pre2 doctor Apr 15 11:19:04 it's in the webOS.tar archive Apr 15 11:19:14 there is a section with: Apr 15 11:19:16 Apr 15 11:19:16 Apr 15 11:19:16 Apr 15 11:19:16 Apr 15 11:19:16 Apr 15 11:19:17 Apr 15 11:19:19 Apr 15 11:19:21 Apr 15 11:19:23 Apr 15 11:19:25 Apr 15 11:19:30 this are all volumes Apr 15 11:19:32 you need Apr 15 11:19:41 but don't know if the size is the same for the pre2 Apr 15 11:19:49 as this is for the pre Apr 15 11:21:57 i have a question about fso, how are you doig you devs ? did yuou install all fso libs on your development machine or did develop directly on the device ? Apr 15 11:23:23 both, depending on the situation. what i can develop on the workstation, i do there. when I'm done there or need to develop device-specific features, i compile the stuff for the device and test there. and sometimes you have a hybrid approach, where e.g. you forward certain device things, such as a serial node, or a sysfs, to work on the workstation, but still control the device Apr 15 11:24:17 ok Apr 15 11:24:47 you don't have any solution based on qemu? Apr 15 11:25:53 yesterday i was able to launch a SHR image with qemu, and i wonder if i could not use it to develop specific code depending on fso dbus on it Apr 15 11:26:37 but if i could have all lib/exe running on my development machine it would be better Apr 15 11:26:41 yep Apr 15 11:26:47 qemu is nice, but it doesn't buy me much Apr 15 11:26:57 since it's so far from emulating the actual interesting device specifics Apr 15 11:27:06 that i can just drop it and compile the stuff right away on the workstation Apr 15 11:27:18 where qemu can help is boot processes Apr 15 11:27:21 or kernel development Apr 15 11:27:26 yes for low level it's not interessting Apr 15 11:27:42 ok so i will try to build everything Apr 15 11:27:46 cool Apr 15 11:29:09 i tried sometimes ago, but when I saw i need last version of vala, and other things like that i stopped :) Apr 15 11:30:16 there is the sorted list of libs somewhere ? Apr 15 11:31:01 there's a README in the cornucopia tree that covers the FSO side Apr 15 11:31:16 ah ok fine Apr 15 11:32:37 i should update that README... it's a bit old ;) Apr 15 11:32:46 depending on the device, you may need additional support libs Apr 15 11:32:49 e.g. msmcomm for pre Apr 15 11:32:53 ibgisi for n900 Apr 15 11:34:47 also, libfsosystem is not covered yet, some daemons need it these days Apr 15 11:35:03 :) Apr 15 11:35:42 and when everything is finally build i need to launch specific exe ? Apr 15 11:36:20 depends... some daemons are autstarted, some not Apr 15 11:36:22 JaMa|Wrk, ubifs+om-gta02+nand-scrub works Apr 15 11:36:38 we try to use dbus activation as much as possible Apr 15 11:36:51 using dfu-utils Apr 15 11:36:54 so if you start a client, e.g. SHR's phone UI, the underlying daemons should be started automagically Apr 15 11:38:15 and for example what happens if i send the message Vibrate on a pc ? Apr 15 11:41:31 mickey|office: we should really make a guid whats needed to compile FSO (dependencies, etc.) Apr 15 11:43:15 GNUtoo: -scrub? Apr 15 11:44:10 UBI handles flash bit-flips Apr 15 11:44:10 Scrubbing, by moving data from physical eraseblocks which have bit-flips to other physical eraseblocks. Apr 15 11:44:13 Scrubbing is done transparently in background and is hidden from upper layers. Apr 15 11:46:12 so it's related to ECC we maybe (I don't remember) enabled in kernel config? Apr 15 11:46:42 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2010-November/011276.html Apr 15 11:50:21 mickey|office: over the weekend and next week I will setup a test installation of redmine on freesmartphone.org to see if it's usable as new developers home for FSO Apr 15 12:19:38 morphis: (guide), ya, we can extend the README then Apr 15 12:19:47 morphis: (site) excellent Apr 15 12:23:05 could one of you bitbake experts tell if there is a way to organize recipes in subdirectories? with the flat directory structure i will get dozens of them in a single directory Apr 15 12:28:24 yes, but you need to adjust BBFILES Apr 15 12:28:43 you can put them anywhere provided BBFILES points to 'em Apr 15 12:29:38 can i use multiple path with the BBFILE variable? Apr 15 12:31:10 yep. separator is space IIRC Apr 15 12:31:59 thanks Apr 15 12:32:18 mickey|office: and I am doing now backups of the whole freesmartphone.org installation to my local backup drive Apr 15 12:32:47 morphis: ok, cool. btw., did you get my qt/embedded lines or were you offline? Apr 15 12:32:58 jepp I got them Apr 15 12:33:00 ok Apr 15 12:33:02 but need time to try it Apr 15 12:33:06 sure sure Apr 15 12:33:15 did you already find a soluation for the qt/dbus/fso thing? Apr 15 12:33:30 no, but i didn't continue to think about it Apr 15 12:33:40 i want to see whether i can realize my gfx ui dreams at all Apr 15 12:33:50 e.g. on the n900 it's unusable Apr 15 12:33:57 too many pixels and no acceleration Apr 15 12:34:08 on the pre it's better, not exactly fluid, but ok Apr 15 12:34:15 do we know anything about the gfx acceleration? Apr 15 12:34:24 should be possible Apr 15 12:34:44 you know the setup-/install-extra feature of the fso-installer? Apr 15 12:35:00 no, never used that Apr 15 12:35:10 i just installed the stuff directly on the running image after booting Apr 15 12:35:11 it copies necessary things from webOS rootfs to the FSO one Apr 15 12:35:17 ok Apr 15 12:35:23 ah, that one is different from what i thought Apr 15 12:35:24 we should try the gfx driver from webOS Apr 15 12:35:29 ya, worth a try Apr 15 12:35:45 qt/e has quite extensive hooks for gfx acceleration Apr 15 12:35:54 ok Apr 15 12:36:04 btw. there are some free part for the palmpre: http://opensource.palm.com/2.1.0/index.html Apr 15 12:36:16 tisgxgfx Apr 15 12:40:57 wow, quite a lot Apr 15 12:42:15 I don't really know for what the tisgxgfx component is for Apr 15 12:42:22 but you still need the firmware files Apr 15 12:44:10 yeah. oh well, nothing important at this point of time. it kind of performs with the unaccelerated version as well Apr 15 12:44:49 morphis, what's that? Apr 15 12:44:53 we could also peek into their patches against libSDL Apr 15 12:44:56 does it contain proprietary parts? Apr 15 12:45:03 which some claim to be accelerated as well Apr 15 12:45:32 GNUtoo: tisgxgfx? Apr 15 12:45:49 yes Apr 15 12:46:04 1) what is it exactly(is it complete) Apr 15 12:46:09 2)is it totally floss Apr 15 12:46:13 ya, that looks like accelerated blits Apr 15 12:46:19 ah ok Apr 15 12:46:26 in libSDL Apr 15 12:46:29 ah ok Apr 15 12:46:46 * GNUtoo tought it was an xorg driver Apr 15 12:46:55 like xf86-video-pbfb Apr 15 12:47:18 GNUtoo: don't know what it is for Apr 15 12:47:32 only thing I know it is for acceleration Apr 15 12:47:34 in some way Apr 15 12:48:09 ok Apr 15 12:48:12 I'll look Apr 15 12:48:18 but it seem to use the powervr card Apr 15 12:49:29 yea Apr 15 12:52:37 hmm, this contains a special version of a framebuffer module Apr 15 12:53:02 i wonder whether this is the same as in their kernel sources or something else Apr 15 12:53:14 maybe it's just a kernel module Apr 15 12:54:08 Afternoon, (or morning). Apr 15 12:54:16 I think it's just that Apr 15 12:54:19 a kernel module Apr 15 12:54:29 so not usable Apr 15 12:54:38 without proprietary component Apr 15 12:54:44 that I'm against Apr 15 12:59:31 so I am off for weekend Apr 15 12:59:34 bye Apr 15 13:00:31 sounds good cu Apr 15 13:03:52 When I run my 'Messages' app (on a FR), the messages screen appears for a few moments, shows its 'working' icon, then exits without further messages. What can I do to diagnose this problem? Apr 15 13:08:28 I get this error message in Xsession.log: http://pastebin.com/92p5R061 Apr 15 13:14:57 ChristW: try with DEBUG in phoneuid.conf Apr 15 13:15:48 JaMa|Wrk: What do I need to restart after that? phonefsod? Apr 15 13:18:05 These are the results of the 'DEBUG' jury: http://pastebin.com/12wSVtBB Apr 15 13:23:00 I've also made a log of everything in /var/log during the run of the 'Messages' app: http://pastebin.com/cCpF9brR Apr 15 14:20:13 ChristW: sorry don't know, something strange in message 18? maybe mrmoku will know Apr 15 14:21:30 ChristW: ah there is different TZ in log times.. so maybe whole problem is "Can't allocate channel #2 from MUX: Channel 2 is already taken." and phoneuid dies in not so nice way Apr 15 14:27:37 GNUtoo: could be ubifs issue related to this? http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2011-April/034600.html Apr 15 14:28:01 GNUtoo: because ant reported it after switching to newer mtd-utils with flasherase too Apr 15 14:28:32 I did nand scrub as described on the wiki Apr 15 14:28:34 and now it works Apr 15 14:28:42 no idea of the exact cause Apr 15 14:29:22 but I already tried mtd utils 1.3 like that Apr 15 14:29:29 I rm-ed the more recent mtd-utils Apr 15 14:29:33 I bitbaken an image Apr 15 14:29:36 it rebuilt mtd-utils Apr 15 14:29:39 this wiki? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NAND_bad_blocks Apr 15 14:29:41 and built the image Apr 15 14:29:42 yes Apr 15 14:29:48 and it didn't work Apr 15 14:29:54 then today I tried nand scrub Apr 15 14:30:01 and it worked with the last SHR image Apr 15 14:30:13 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NAND_bad_blocks#Clearing_BadBlocks Apr 15 14:30:46 with u-boot from NOR, right? Apr 15 14:30:55 yes Apr 15 14:31:08 basically I did that: Apr 15 14:31:14 *boot on NOR uboot Apr 15 14:31:14 interesting Apr 15 14:31:19 *run the wiki commands Apr 15 14:31:25 *power off Apr 15 14:31:32 *power on to NOR uboot again Apr 15 14:31:36 *flash QI Apr 15 14:31:40 *flash uImage Apr 15 14:31:42 *flash rootfs Apr 15 14:31:45 and reboot Apr 15 14:31:51 note that I didn't run theses commands: Apr 15 14:31:57 dynenv set u-boot_env Apr 15 14:31:57 saveenv Apr 15 14:32:01 because they were useless Apr 15 14:32:07 since I used QI Apr 15 16:29:43 i try to launch phoneui-dialer on my desktop machine but I get an error : The name org.shr.phoneui was not provided by any .service files Apr 15 16:29:53 ideas ? Apr 15 17:00:07 captainigloo: phoneuid is not running then Apr 15 17:02:30 mrmoku: yes my bad i was pretty sure it was compiled Apr 15 17:03:49 ok :) Apr 15 17:08:40 too much things to build .... Apr 15 17:09:21 NOTE: Running task 2002 of 9330 :) Apr 15 17:10:35 :) Apr 15 17:10:49 so shr-t build can start in 14 days :) Apr 15 17:13:58 no easter shr-t then ;) Apr 15 17:14:51 :) Apr 15 17:15:35 when i build libfso-glib i have an error : Requested 'fso-specs >= 2011.04.12.1' but version of fso-specs is 2011.01.10.1 Apr 15 17:15:44 where could if find fso-specs ? Apr 15 17:15:53 it's the same than specs on the fso git repository ? Apr 15 17:15:59 yes Apr 15 17:16:10 ok thanks Apr 15 17:16:12 recipes/freesmartphone/fso-specs_git.bb Apr 15 17:17:49 fso-spec.pc is installed in $(prefix)/share/pkgconfig Apr 15 17:18:10 it's the right behaviour ? Apr 15 17:19:29 looks right Apr 15 17:19:29 it should be $(prefix)/usr/lib/pkgconfig ? Apr 15 17:19:30 OE om-gta02@shr ~/shr-core $ ls ../tmpdir-shr/sysroots/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/pkgconfig/ Apr 15 17:19:33 fso-specs.pc gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc mobile-broadband-provider-info.pc shared-mime-info.pc shr-specs.pc udev.pc usbutils.pc xkeyboard-config.pc xorg-macros.pc xorg-sgml-doctools.pc xtrans.pc Apr 15 17:19:45 hum ok Apr 15 17:19:57 i guess it's pkgconfig for libs and for share data Apr 15 17:20:18 ok so i need to add this path to my PKG_CONFIG_PATH Apr 15 17:20:44 otherwise libfso-glib configure doesn't find it Apr 15 17:27:32 captainigloo, hey! Elfe only opens launcher one time per boot. Apr 15 17:27:56 I don't have much time to discuss it right now though, I have to go ;) Apr 15 17:28:17 pespin: ho ? Apr 15 17:28:37 mrmoku: You around? Apr 15 17:28:53 before my latest changes or also with them ? Apr 15 17:29:05 captainigloo, no idea, the rev in feeds Apr 15 17:29:33 ah ok Apr 15 17:29:55 captainigloo, elfe - 0.0.1+svnr58042-r5.0.6 Apr 15 17:29:55 it should be fixed Apr 15 17:30:22 captainigloo, could you tell someone to bump to desired rev which works pleasE? Apr 15 17:34:25 someone would bump elfe rev with E svn revision 58599 please ? Apr 15 17:46:08 i think there is a problem with fsophoned autogen.sh Apr 15 17:46:18 there is no tests directory Apr 15 17:46:35 but it tries to search for it Apr 15 17:48:30 thanx Apr 15 17:48:45 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7e8a0990db97 10/fsophoned/tests/ (Makefile.am testphone.vala): fsophoned: add missing files Apr 15 17:49:36 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r3fc63f76bdcd 10/fsoappd/src/bin/.gitignore: fsoappd: gitignore++ Apr 15 17:54:27 i finally build cornucopia :) Apr 15 17:54:36 excellent, congrats Apr 15 17:57:10 patches welcome :) Apr 15 18:08:17 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07specs * rd8a8104b7030 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Remove status enumeration from application session API Apr 15 18:12:15 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07gdbus * rf4f76e235399 10libfso-glib/configure.ac: Bump version for newer specs version Apr 15 18:12:16 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07gdbus * r24dab1539ae8 10libfso-glib/configure.ac: Bump version according to fso-specs Apr 15 18:38:02 hey Apr 15 18:44:07 captainigloo, hey. do you know, what the state_info.seq and state_info.flags options in gadcon (e-module) are for? Apr 15 18:49:32 SHR: 03lukasmaerdian 07shr-themes * rdc613c5b7c70 10/e-wm/e-wm-config-illume2-shr/ (Makefile.am palm_pre/e.src palm_pre/module.battery.src): e-wm-config-illume2-shr: palmpre: use battery-fso Apr 15 18:58:42 morphis: i changed the Pre's config to use the my battery-fso module as default now Apr 15 18:59:08 ChristW: now around Apr 15 19:02:39 hey mrmoku. do we want the battery-fso module for more SHR devices than the palmpre? Apr 15 19:04:13 Slyon: sure, if it works we want it for all of them probably :) Apr 15 19:06:08 mrmoku, ok. basically it works. and i activated it as default config on the pre. but it has some regerssions against e's applet, e.g. no popups on low battery Apr 15 19:07:07 Slyon: that is not necessarily a regression ;) Apr 15 19:07:15 * mrmoku always disliked that popup :P Apr 15 19:07:19 mrmoku, someone should test it for a while on gta-02 and n900 and if it is ok we can use it as default there Apr 15 19:07:21 * Slyon too Apr 15 19:07:59 it should be build and installed with new enough shr-e-gadgets package and can then be activated (as well in paralell) to e's bat-gadget Apr 15 19:08:31 ok Apr 15 19:08:44 will see to update my gta02 and try it myself Apr 15 19:10:32 mrmoku, ok nice. you have to bump s Apr 15 19:10:44 PaulFertser: is there an easy way to watch a phonet netlink from the 'outside' ? Apr 15 19:10:46 SRCREV. maybe you could push this change to OE so it gets build on the buildhost Apr 15 19:11:07 ahh, ok... then the test won't be so fast :P Apr 15 19:11:16 because I think buildhost is buuuuuuuuuusyyyyyy :) Apr 15 19:11:20 then i can test as well on my FR. but i don't have a build-env for FR Apr 15 19:11:56 mine is populated for n900 only right now Apr 15 19:12:42 hmm ok. so we have to wait for someone with a FR build enviroment to build us the package :) Apr 15 19:14:48 brb **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 16 02:59:58 2011