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Apr 24 10:06:24 <mickey|zzZZzz> DocScrutinizer: thanks, lets see whether creating the device node is enough. no idea whether we have the cmtspeech built-in kernel
Apr 24 10:17:15 <mickeyl> hmm, apparantly not:
Apr 24 10:17:44 <mickeyl> ERROR: CMTSPEECH: nokiamodem_backend: unable to open device /dev/cmt_speech ('No such device')
Apr 24 12:03:23 <mickeyl> GNUtoo: we don't have cmtspeech support in our kernel?
Apr 24 12:03:25 <mickeyl> ERROR: CMTSPEECH: nokiamodem_backend: unable to open device /dev/cmt_speech ('No such device')
Apr 24 12:48:13 <GNUtoo> ah possible
Apr 24 12:48:23 <GNUtoo> zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CMT
Apr 24 12:59:25 <dcordes> hi
Apr 24 12:59:37 <dcordes> GNUtoo: leo suspend/resume ?
Apr 24 13:00:13 <GNUtoo> hi, bbl
Apr 24 13:00:17 <GNUtoo> I'm busy atm
Apr 24 13:01:59 <dcordes> ok
Apr 24 14:53:51 <mickeyl> root@nokia900:/etc/init.d# zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CMT
Apr 24 14:53:51 <mickeyl> CONFIG_CMT=y
Apr 24 14:53:51 <mickeyl> CONFIG_HSI_CMT_SPEECH=y
Apr 24 14:53:58 <mickeyl> hmm, so that looks good so far
Apr 24 14:54:12 <mickeyl> perhaps it has different major/minor numbers than in maemo
Apr 24 14:55:30 <mickeyl> root@nokia900:/sys/devices/virtual/misc/cmt_speech# cat dev 
Apr 24 14:55:30 <mickeyl> 10:60
Apr 24 14:56:31 <mickeyl> hah, yeah
Apr 24 14:56:42 <mickeyl> CMTSPEECH: nokiamodem_backend: Succesfully opened device /dev/cmt_speech (fd 3).
Apr 24 14:56:42 <mickeyl> CMTSPEECH: backend_common: PROTOCOL_STATE <INVALID> --> <DISCONNECTED> (-1->0)
Apr 24 15:01:35 <CIA-10> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07utilities * r2f6dc7e24e3d 10/nokian900/cmtspeechtest/src/ (cmtspeechtest main.c main.vala): nokian900/cmtspeechtest: register signal handler for SIGINT
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Apr 24 16:17:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Apr 24 16:18:07 <GNUtoo|laptop> btw sorry for not beeing very helpfull but when I start something I like to finish it
Apr 24 16:25:00 <mickeyl> np
Apr 24 18:11:44 <DocScrutinizer> mickeyl: \o/
Apr 24 18:15:46 <dcordes> lol
Apr 24 18:51:34 <saratoga> stupid question, but I am interested in trying out SHR on my G1 so that I can use it for developing ARM code
Apr 24 18:51:55 <saratoga> would SHR be suitable to SSH into and run cross compiled linux command line code?
Apr 24 20:37:23 <antrik> saratoga: I'd say so
Apr 24 20:37:58 <saratoga> antrik:  is the default install roughly comparable to something like debian?
Apr 24 20:38:14 <saratoga> i don't know much about linux, but i've mostly developed using that
Apr 24 20:38:40 <antrik> not sure what would be comparable for you...
Apr 24 20:39:01 <antrik> it is more optimized towards embedded applications; but the basic idea is similar I guess...
Apr 24 20:39:07 <saratoga> i mostly just need to be able to cross compile for arm using gcc, and then run test programs and dump the output
Apr 24 20:39:16 <saratoga> over SSH/SFTP
Apr 24 20:40:02 <antrik> that doesn't sound too demanding :-)
Apr 24 20:40:45 <saratoga> yeah its not, really
Apr 24 20:41:33 <saratoga> just wanted to make sure it didn't have any weird issues like android does
Apr 24 20:50:26 <saratoga> if I flash the fastboot image to the boot rom on the G1, does the SD card still need to be EXT2/3?
Apr 24 20:58:42 <airzimmy> hey all, does anyone know what happened with shr-testing2011.1 ? Was there a rebuild or something?
Apr 24 21:02:23 <antrik> saratoga: yeah, SHR uses a proper glibc, so shouldn't have any weird issues like Android I'd hope
Apr 24 21:03:36 <saratoga> ok one more question, its unclear to me what happens if i don't choose the "install shr permanantly" option where it goes on the boot ROM
Apr 24 21:45:03 <JaMa|Off> airzimmi: yes, rebuild from scratch, images are done, feed is still building NOTE: Running task 8801 of 19310
Apr 24 21:45:23 <saratoga> so i clicked one of the text intput fields during setup and now i can't figure out how to get out of it
Apr 24 21:45:28 <JaMa|Off> and last 400 tasks in shr-u/htcdream/feed :)
Apr 24 21:47:17 <saratoga> if i pull the battery during setup is that likely to screw things up?
Apr 24 21:47:27 <saratoga> or is there some way to exit the text screen thats not obvious to me
Apr 24 21:50:02 <saratoga> heh tried holding almost every button the g1, and hitting all the on screen buttons, there doesnt actually seem to be a way to stop inputting text
Apr 24 21:50:11 <saratoga> you can type just fine, just theres no way to tell it you're done
Apr 24 22:09:48 <saratoga> anyone know what the default SSH password is ?
Apr 24 22:46:32 <pespin> saratoga, blank password :)
Apr 24 22:46:42 <pespin> just press enter
Apr 24 22:46:54 <saratoga> thanks
Apr 24 22:47:11 <pespin> anyway, you can set the password using the terminal in the phone too :)
Apr 24 22:47:49 <pespin> during the first time wizard you are asked for the password you want to set, but as far as I see you skipped it hehe
Apr 24 22:55:03 <saratoga> whats the command to change it?
Apr 24 22:55:17 <saratoga> probably not too important over USB NAT, but better to be safe :)
Apr 24 22:55:47 <saratoga> ah the usual passwd
Apr 24 22:55:48 <saratoga> thanks
Apr 24 22:56:04 <saratoga> btw, this works pretty well, i can cross compile code and run it remotely
Apr 24 22:57:21 <saratoga> although for setting up the cross compilers, you might like our "rockboxdev.sh" script, which can automatically build gcc cross compilers on arm/macos/cygwin and then update the path with basically no user effort, would be easier then having people download and install the right compiler to the right place
Apr 24 22:57:40 <saratoga> or at least less chance that something goes wrong
Apr 24 23:01:31 <JaMa|Off> OE is also creating SDK images
Apr 24 23:02:09 <JaMa|Off> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/sdk/old/
Apr 24 23:02:49 <saratoga> stupid question:  if i grabbed the 64 bit binary, did I get a specific arm compiler version or do you patch them with multilib or whatever its called
Apr 24 23:03:52 <JaMa|Off> there are both images for 64 and for 32 bit host
Apr 24 23:04:30 <saratoga> I used "openmoko-x86_64-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2"
Apr 24 23:04:49 <JaMa|Off> multilib is on yocto roadmap, but not for host, but creating toolchain/libs supporting multiple targets
Apr 24 23:04:58 <saratoga> just curious which arm flavors it supports
Apr 24 23:06:05 <JaMa|Off> don't know about old openmoko toolchain images.. but shr images are separate for each arm
Apr 24 23:06:12 <saratoga> ah looks like v6
Apr 24 23:06:16 <saratoga> at least v5 errors out
Apr 24 23:06:59 <JaMa|Off> hmm I would guess armv4t only
Apr 24 23:07:16 <JaMa|Off> as openmoko didn't build any v5/v6 device afaik
Apr 24 23:07:18 <saratoga> oh no my mistake
Apr 24 23:07:24 <saratoga> v4 works
Apr 24 23:09:41 <JaMa|Off> gnite
Apr 25 01:07:49 <TAsn> mrmoku, haha, seems like my fears were correct, according to reports, .38 blows :)
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