**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 17 02:59:56 2011 Jun 17 05:36:01 PaulFertser: I've checked the impedance. I think it's about 1.2 kOhms, which seems quite high. Also, there's no click when I touch the springs with the meter. The springs look alright, though. Jun 17 05:36:34 It's a royal PITA to measure components that small... the prongs on the meter are _huge_ compared to the springs! Jun 17 06:02:56 ChristW: try cleaning the contacts too before reassembling. Jun 17 06:03:07 ChristW: i think i might try measuring on my device if you want me to. Jun 17 07:34:18 PaulFertser: I'll try cleaning, thanks for the tip. Jun 17 07:34:54 If all else fails, I'll ask Golden Delicious to look into it when I get a GTA04 replacement. If I can order one, that is. Jun 17 07:37:08 What household material can you advise? Q-tip with... something? Jun 17 07:45:59 ChristW: i clean with those thingies for cleaning ears after applying some spirit/alchohol to them. Jun 17 08:06:53 PaulFertser: That's a Q-tip, AFAIK. I have some leftover wine, I'll try that... Jun 17 08:26:20 ChristW_: i'd suggest using vodka Jun 17 10:34:55 use paper with glass cleanser Jun 17 10:35:16 useless effort if you ask for my opinion Jun 17 10:35:38 the transduces should ahve soem 16 ohms afaik Jun 17 10:36:01 try with a 1.5V bat if you hear a click. Meter is too weak Jun 17 10:48:34 or, 1/think: wrap 2 wires around tip and base of random headphone 3.5mm 3pole plug, then touch the earpiece contact pads on PCB while device is set up to deliver some nise to earpiece Jun 17 10:48:49 s/nise/noise/. Jun 17 10:50:17 ChristW_: I don't think this 1.5kR you probed are any 'normal' a result Jun 17 11:09:50 ChristW_: earpiece resistance (probed): ~30R Jun 17 11:10:40 ChristW_: make sure orientation of transducer in front case cover is correct - notch has to fit in the recession Jun 17 12:54:32 hello everyone Jun 17 12:56:57 does some peolple build shr here? if yes what did you use to setup your build environnement ? SHRchroot shr's makefile ? Jun 17 13:02:02 I use plain oe Jun 17 13:02:03 hi Jun 17 13:02:22 that is to say I've scripts to change local.conf and tmpdir simlinks Jun 17 13:02:43 apart that I've set it up according to oe manual Jun 17 13:26:58 GNUtoo: yeahhh! I am making little babies steps in git comprehension direction! :p I did a "git checkout -b edd5075a50c435ef42ebe9d0003a1e9bbe85e25b" , the revision off the same version of bitbake you use and then I had bitbake 1.13.0 active and now it is correctly parsing recipes!! Jun 17 13:27:20 nice Jun 17 13:28:15 GNUtoo: but I still do'nt know why my build passed bitbake in head master version ( 1.13.1) Jun 17 13:29:08 maybe a bug in bitbake Jun 17 16:32:47 ~seen morphis Jun 17 16:32:49 morphis <~morphis@dslb-088-071-187-156.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 19h 3m 29s ago, saying: 'using python was just a interim solution until we have the qt-gobject thing'. Jun 17 18:05:46 morphis: hi! Jun 17 18:05:50 GarthPS: hey Jun 17 18:06:03 yop I succeded to fix my bitbake issue Jun 17 18:06:46 so I did build linux-palmpre but I have to build shr-image too right . because i flashed the new built kernel without success Jun 17 18:08:08 morphis: but I am having trubble with shr-image... that I don't get.. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6BAaSRzP Jun 17 18:08:30 no, you don't need the image Jun 17 18:08:47 hi dcordes_ Jun 17 18:08:49 hi morphis Jun 17 18:08:53 GNUtoo: heyho Jun 17 18:08:58 you already tried oe-core right? Jun 17 18:09:02 what's the current state Jun 17 18:09:10 and what tool to use for setting it up? Jun 17 18:09:13 GarthPS: hm, looks like you should rebuild the image(clean+build) Jun 17 18:09:13 morphis: hmm ok. bu if I could fix this build error I would not cry :) Jun 17 18:09:29 GNUtoo: yes I tried Jun 17 18:09:36 but not very much Jun 17 18:10:09 morphis: so what do I have to do if i don't need the image ? Jun 17 18:10:15 GNUtoo: I have some manual setup here Jun 17 18:10:21 inspired by shr-core Jun 17 18:10:31 I need semi-automatic ones that can handle: Jun 17 18:10:31 GarthPS: install the kernel Jun 17 18:10:34 *shr Jun 17 18:10:36 *angstrom Jun 17 18:10:40 and the package for sirloin_wifi Jun 17 18:10:42 *ssh-agent Jun 17 18:10:50 (for pulling) Jun 17 18:10:55 GNUtoo: you mean a oe setup environment Jun 17 18:11:05 I mean setup an oe-core environment Jun 17 18:11:11 with oe.dev all was in one repo Jun 17 18:11:15 so it was easy Jun 17 18:11:21 I did a very modular setup Jun 17 18:11:27 morphis: the kernel is already installed but what to do about sirloin_wifi ? where do I get it ? Jun 17 18:11:32 with one local.conf for each machine but Jun 17 18:11:42 theses local.conf required other configs Jun 17 18:11:47 for insatnce angstrom.conf Jun 17 18:11:48 GNUtoo: but the amount of packages in classic-OE is quite huge and not maintable anymore Jun 17 18:12:03 GarthPS: it's ipk package Jun 17 18:12:10 in tmp/deploy/palmpre2.... Jun 17 18:12:14 I just want to know what tool to use Jun 17 18:12:16 copy it to the device and install it Jun 17 18:12:19 and the state Jun 17 18:12:29 GNUtoo: I don't use any tool Jun 17 18:12:34 I don't even have a list of tools Jun 17 18:12:36 morphis: it is not already in the rootfs ? Jun 17 18:12:41 ah but if there are 5 repos Jun 17 18:12:45 GNUtoo: and if you ask for the state you have to precise your question Jun 17 18:12:45 how do you update them Jun 17 18:12:52 GarthPS: the old version Jun 17 18:12:55 ok Jun 17 18:13:00 morphis: hmm ok Jun 17 18:13:07 does the machines boot fine and work fine under SHR Jun 17 18:13:12 GarthPS: when you rebuild the kernel sirloin_wifi is rebuilded too and also repackaged Jun 17 18:13:14 lacking a lot of packages of course Jun 17 18:13:24 GNUtoo: which machines? Jun 17 18:13:33 om-gta02 should Jun 17 18:13:39 n900 I don't know Jun 17 18:13:42 for SHR I've: Jun 17 18:13:43 palmpre does not Jun 17 18:13:44 om-gta02 Jun 17 18:13:46 htcdream Jun 17 18:13:49 nokia900 Jun 17 18:13:51 nexusone Jun 17 18:13:57 for angstrom I've: Jun 17 18:14:00 eee701 Jun 17 18:14:01 bug1.x Jun 17 18:14:03 bug2.x Jun 17 18:14:06 I don't think htcdream and nexusone are supported Jun 17 18:14:09 you need to add them Jun 17 18:14:16 htcdream has a repo Jun 17 18:14:20 with all the work you for them in classic oe Jun 17 18:14:20 nexusone is unsuported Jun 17 18:14:32 htcdream has a repo but I didn't know it's state Jun 17 18:14:37 ok Jun 17 18:14:40 nokia900? Jun 17 18:15:31 I know JaMa played with it Jun 17 18:15:37 yes but he's not there Jun 17 18:15:40 he's offline Jun 17 18:15:47 for a long period Jun 17 18:16:20 so what do you use for git checkout? Jun 17 18:16:27 manual for x in $() Jun 17 18:16:39 currently git-submodule Jun 17 18:16:40 *git pull Jun 17 18:17:44 GNUtoo: you should take a look at http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=summary Jun 17 18:17:48 for n900 support Jun 17 18:19:21 GNUtoo: and there is a tool called combo-layer-tool Jun 17 18:20:09 btw. I broke my Pre display again ... Jun 17 18:20:40 ouch Jun 17 18:20:43 which one? Jun 17 18:20:58 how did you do that? Jun 17 18:21:09 I have two Pre devices (both have a broken display now) and a pre plus (which I am using now as main phone) Jun 17 18:21:16 had it in my pocket Jun 17 18:21:26 can't you buy a protection Jun 17 18:21:30 ? Jun 17 18:21:35 but I ordered a new display on ebay today Jun 17 18:21:37 I have one Jun 17 18:21:42 ah ouch Jun 17 18:21:47 morphis: hmm this is not good right ? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DYSHdHga Jun 17 18:21:49 but in this moment it wasn't used be me ... :( Jun 17 18:22:03 be carefull, we need you Jun 17 18:22:08 GarthPS: add --force-downgrade Jun 17 18:22:16 how many pre left? Jun 17 18:22:23 * GNUtoo only broke bug1 displays Jun 17 18:22:27 two without touchscreen Jun 17 18:22:36 and one Pre Plus I am using now as my main phone Jun 17 18:22:41 ah ok Jun 17 18:22:44 so no development on the Pre Plus anymore Jun 17 18:22:49 ouch Jun 17 18:23:01 should I send you the pre-2 I will receive? Jun 17 18:23:04 I have to repair the other two pre phones Jun 17 18:23:05 morphis: I don't find it normal that I have to downgrade as I use autorev for fso and shr.. Jun 17 18:23:47 GarthPS: it's ok cause of the gitr0 Jun 17 18:23:56 and the former package has gitr4 Jun 17 18:24:26 it's maybe because you deleted tmp or so Jun 17 18:24:41 morphis: the number only represent the number a build by the build system right ?? Jun 17 18:24:43 GNUtoo: I don't think so Jun 17 18:25:10 ok Jun 17 18:25:17 you should receive one too Jun 17 18:25:24 morphis: yeah previous was build from the shr buildhost. do I need to reeboot ? or do i just do a modprobe sirloin_wifi Jun 17 18:26:11 morphis: wouhou lot of new lines in kernel log :p Jun 17 18:26:54 GarthPS: look at classes/gitpkgv.bbclass for a description Jun 17 18:27:02 GarthPS: which kind of? Jun 17 18:27:33 GNUtoo: yes and I wrote today a mail to palm to ask about the state of the shipment Jun 17 18:27:47 ok Jun 17 18:28:05 GarthPS: you are good in web design? Jun 17 18:28:33 morphis: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=33Kdth2f . nope why ? Jun 17 18:28:35 :) Jun 17 18:28:50 I am searching somebody who can give the fso site a facelift Jun 17 18:28:59 GarthPS: looks very good Jun 17 18:29:02 so wifi should work now Jun 17 18:29:03 ah it would be nice Jun 17 18:29:10 but the main problem is Jun 17 18:29:23 how to keep it modifiable by the community Jun 17 18:29:28 morphis: yes I have an eth0 interface listed by ifconfig -a Jun 17 18:29:30 the wiki is not wow enough Jun 17 18:29:34 but it's modifiable Jun 17 18:29:41 GNUtoo: we need some starting page Jun 17 18:29:47 like yocto have Jun 17 18:29:47 ah ok Jun 17 18:29:56 the wiki is for developers Jun 17 18:30:11 I am thinking about a site with news and infos about fso in general Jun 17 18:30:12 I know only worpress Jun 17 18:30:14 like for replicant Jun 17 18:30:27 ok Jun 17 18:30:30 but I want it to look nice :) Jun 17 18:30:42 so I am searching for a web designer with time Jun 17 18:33:17 wordpress is nice Jun 17 18:38:51 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rb7e31e416b04 10/aurora/ (7 files in 3 dirs): aurora: more work on the system manager Jun 17 18:38:53 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rdbf0d30e30d9 10/aurora/aurora/Makefile.am: aurora: add missingl qmlintrospection.py to Makefile Jun 17 18:38:54 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rdf0dd5efbb36 10/aurora/.gitignore: aurora: update .gitignore Jun 17 18:38:54 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r2f63f2abef69 10/aurora/systemmanager/controller.vala: aurora: adjust display brightness when idle state changes Jun 17 18:38:54 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r27a279297f8f 10/aurora/components/common/Controller.qml: aurora: remove idle state handling from qml Jun 17 18:38:54 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r8415384c3f9e 10/aurora/components/common/NotificationArea.qml: aurora: create announement item as child of the notification area Jun 17 18:38:54 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rd7eeda86d314 10/aurora/aurora/qmlintrospection.py: aurora: tweak qml introspection component a little bit more Jun 17 18:38:56 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rb6ec6354ced6 10/aurora/aurora/qmlintrospection.py: aurora: some fixes for the qml introspection code Jun 17 18:38:56 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r18c47a371c90 10/aurora/components/main.qml: aurora: remove test notification Jun 17 18:39:00 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * ra83addddef5e 10/aurora/components/main.qml: aurora: create new method in root window for sending notifications Jun 17 18:39:00 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rcc5cedcbbf6d 10/aurora/components/common/Dialpad.qml: aurora: port dialpad to use the gesture area component Jun 17 18:39:00 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * ree84894adf17 10/aurora/components/common/NotificationArea.qml: aurora: use gesture area in notification area too Jun 17 18:39:00 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r3a5fbfab2a11 10/aurora/systemmanager/controller.vala: aurora: implement handling of audio volume in systemmanager when pressing the right btns Jun 17 18:39:29 how do I setup meta-shr Jun 17 18:39:32 is there a howto? Jun 17 18:39:34 or any doc Jun 17 18:41:04 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07msmcomm * r6347422ab592 10/ (10 files in 6 dirs): libmsmcomm: implement more pdsm relevant messages Jun 17 18:41:17 GNUtoo: look at the shr-makefile Jun 17 18:41:30 and I think there is something written in shr wiki Jun 17 18:41:42 GNUtoo: but you should use meta-smartphone Jun 17 18:41:50 yes that's what I want to use Jun 17 18:41:51 meta-shr as standalone is obsolete Jun 17 18:41:56 ok Jun 17 18:42:16 I know Jun 17 18:42:24 sorry for saying the wrong thing Jun 17 18:42:31 no problem :) Jun 17 18:43:12 the Makefile is long Jun 17 18:44:08 I'll try in the dark else Jun 17 18:44:14 but I surely will get nervous Jun 17 18:50:33 morphis: I am not sure to make it right: Jun 17 18:50:42 modprobe sirloin_wifi then Jun 17 18:50:48 ifup eth0 Jun 17 18:51:11 wich is equivalent of mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/0 org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower true right ? Jun 17 18:51:31 because I have this Jun 17 18:51:32 root@palmpre2 ~ # ifup eth0 Jun 17 18:51:33 ifup: ignoring unknown interface eth0 Jun 17 18:51:33 root@palmpre2 ~ # Jun 17 18:52:44 ..hmm it seem good.. Jun 17 18:52:49 finally.. Jun 17 18:54:37 morphis: I succeded to connect to a unecrypted wii but it was with a captive portal then so I could not check if I could use eve Jun 17 19:13:38 someon is has some skills in wifi connexion wpa2 dhcp ? Jun 17 19:15:39 morphis: it seems that I am connected to my box but I don't have ip... I used this wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/home/root/.config/iliwi/wpa_supplicant.conf Jun 17 19:15:39 which seems to have worked but as I don't know how to do.. Jun 17 19:18:29 GarthPS: you need to run udhcpc Jun 17 19:18:33 on eth0 Jun 17 19:18:39 to get an ip Jun 17 19:20:05 morphis: so so way is: modprobe sirloin_wifi; ifup eth0 and then ? Jun 17 19:20:15 ok I found bblayers Jun 17 19:20:17 setup wpa_supplicant Jun 17 19:20:23 I'll ask in #oe Jun 17 19:20:24 run udhcpc Jun 17 19:20:27 GNUtoo: ok Jun 17 19:21:18 morphis: for setting up wpa_supplicant i do like this right ?wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/home/root/.config/iliwi/wpa_supplicant.conf Jun 17 19:21:24 yes Jun 17 19:21:35 sorry to bother you with that as I don't know how to do Jun 17 19:21:41 no problem Jun 17 19:34:51 morphis: yeah! I am connected to my private network over wifi in wpa2 Jun 17 20:14:56 thanks to the help of kergoth I got oe-core running *my way* Jun 17 21:01:12 GarthPS: yeah! Jun 17 21:01:16 GNUtoo: great Jun 17 21:02:08 I've to setup the tmpdir now Jun 17 21:10:32 GarthPS: I will fix the kernel the right way tomorrow and adjust OE to build it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 18 02:59:56 2011