**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 21 02:59:56 2011 Jun 21 11:01:02 GNUtoo: hi. I did test software compositing under palmpre2 and it works! :) Jun 21 11:01:37 * GarthPS is anoying by openembedded unreachable... Jun 21 11:03:15 melo is down as they say in #oe Jun 21 11:03:27 I guess melo is the machine that hosts it Jun 21 11:03:34 s/down/broken/ Jun 21 11:03:48 GarthPS, wow can you share screenshots? Jun 21 11:04:04 GarthPS, so it worked out of the box? Jun 21 11:04:10 GNUtoo: well a video will be more relevant then Jun 21 11:04:29 GNUtoo: its seems yes Jun 21 11:04:32 yes but screenshots are so easy to do Jun 21 11:05:40 GNUtoo: yes but It does not show the fancy transition between apps! :p plus with this bug it is not perfect http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1326 Jun 21 11:06:19 ok Jun 21 11:06:48 GNUtoo: by the way , you have an idea about this bug ? Jun 21 11:07:38 NO Jun 21 11:07:45 oops caps Jun 21 11:07:58 no, unfortunately Jun 21 11:14:07 GNUtoo: ok I have a cute vieo with ppp connection and software compositing Jun 21 11:17:31 ok Jun 21 11:17:34 where is it? Jun 21 11:26:16 GNUtoo: in the hoover! :) Jun 21 11:33:01 ? Jun 21 11:33:41 GNUtoo: was rencoding because of the size.. I am uploading now Jun 21 11:33:50 ok Jun 21 11:36:29 GNUtoo: http://pare.sylvain.perso.sfr.fr/video/ppp+sw%20compositiong.ogg Jun 21 11:37:35 http://pare.sylvain.perso.sfr.fr/video/ppp+sw compositiong.ogg Jun 21 11:38:43 downloaded Jun 21 11:38:46 it's the pre 2? Jun 21 11:41:08 because it seem super-fast Jun 21 11:42:45 GNUtoo: yes it is! :p Jun 21 11:52:15 Looks very nice! I hope GTA04 feels the same in speed! Jun 21 11:55:15 a bit less I guess Jun 21 11:55:18 but still very fast Jun 21 13:00:34 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07framework * r962479a215bd 10/etc/palmpre2/frameworkd.conf: Add configuration file for the palmpre2 (it's same as the palmpre) Jun 21 13:14:40 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07framework * rc5bfbb6728ed 10/etc/palmpre2/frameworkd.conf: Jun 21 13:14:40 freesmartphone.org: Revert "Add configuration file for the palmpre2 (it's same as the palmpre)" Jun 21 13:14:40 freesmartphone.org: This reverts commit 962479a215bda648c9ddbf7aa652ee16851eda5a. We will fix this in OE and Jun 21 13:14:40 freesmartphone.org: not here! Jun 21 13:33:26 GarthPS, for your bug did you try xf86-video-fbdev instead? Jun 21 13:35:22 GNUtoo: hmm how to do thta ? Jun 21 13:35:42 opkg install xf86-video-fbdev Jun 21 13:35:44 as I don't currently know which one is used Jun 21 13:35:48 and change omapfb to fbdev in xorg.conf Jun 21 13:36:11 for instance: Jun 21 13:36:12 Driver "fbdev" Jun 21 13:36:21 in the device section Jun 21 13:36:41 GNUtoo: ok thx I will try Jun 21 13:37:05 ok Jun 21 13:37:07 * GarthPS hopes it will ! Jun 21 13:37:19 because I guess it has to do with refreshing Jun 21 13:37:33 xf-video-msmfb had a huge issue with gtk+ Jun 21 13:37:36 long time ago Jun 21 13:38:18 GNUtoo: msmfb or ompafb? so you did understand the issue? my captures are explicit enought ? Jun 21 13:38:34 msmfb Jun 21 13:38:43 no we just switched to xf86-video-fbdev Jun 21 13:38:46 I've many devices Jun 21 13:38:54 including a htcdream Jun 21 13:39:57 what is the diff between omapfb, msmfb and fbdev ? Jun 21 13:40:39 basically it's the xorg userspace driver for your framebuffer or graphic card Jun 21 13:40:50 fbdev supports static rotation Jun 21 13:40:57 (edit xorg.conf for rotating) Jun 21 13:41:46 ok Jun 21 13:41:50 omapfb is faster for omap Jun 21 13:41:55 it supports XV too Jun 21 13:42:11 msmfb is faster for snapdragoon devices Jun 21 13:42:17 but is hard to compile Jun 21 13:42:27 butapparently has issues with gtk and qt rendering or even efl Jun 21 13:42:35 it had long time ago Jun 21 13:42:45 but only gtk, not efl Jun 21 13:42:48 GNUtoo: at least as my bug Jun 21 13:43:07 GNUtoo: do you know why OE in unreacheable ? Jun 21 13:43:19 yes Jun 21 13:43:21 melo is down Jun 21 13:43:34 I guess melo is the oe machine that hosts oe Jun 21 13:43:45 no, melo is broken Jun 21 13:46:53 GNUtoo: ok cool.. :) Jun 21 13:47:06 GNUtoo: to return to fb Jun 21 13:47:49 GNUtoo: if switching to fbdev fix my issues , then it is omapfb that has a bug Jun 21 13:47:52 righ t? Jun 21 13:48:15 not necessaarly Jun 21 13:48:24 I guess your omapfb kenrel driver would have a bug Jun 21 13:48:39 GNUtoo: oh yeah Jun 21 13:49:02 GNUtoo: i will see.. I hope to find to who I could repport the bug Jun 21 13:49:06 ok Jun 21 13:49:16 try to get more infos on it Jun 21 13:49:22 so morphis could try to fix Jun 21 13:50:00 GNUtoo: for now he does have no clue. Jun 21 13:50:13 indeed Jun 21 13:50:20 that's why more infos would help Jun 21 13:50:26 specially to narrow the bug Jun 21 13:50:31 GNUtoo: I will try fbdev driver but then I don't see how I could provide more infos.. Jun 21 14:00:22 ohhh I've splitted screen but....I've 32bit on n900 Jun 21 14:01:01 GNUtoo: I don't understand your 32bit .. Jun 21 14:01:23 it's for having the software compositing Jun 21 14:01:27 you need 24 or 32bit Jun 21 14:04:53 GNUtoo: instruction set you mean ? Jun 21 14:05:04 no Jun 21 14:05:10 framebuffer depth Jun 21 14:05:16 GNUtoo: oh ok Jun 21 14:05:21 right Jun 21 15:09:11 <[Rui]> hi Jun 21 15:09:25 <[Rui]> are omgta02 images supposed to be extra unstable, currently? Jun 21 15:09:32 <[Rui]> images of shr-u, I mean :) Jun 21 15:09:55 <[Rui]> I installed a build from june 7th and it worked for a few calls until the sound got borked again Jun 21 15:10:32 <[Rui]> first I couldn't hear anything, but converting to speakerset I could talkm then a couple of calls later, not even that :( Jun 21 15:12:30 <[Rui]> now I turned it on and using the speaker set worked again :) Jun 21 15:14:59 mooo Jun 21 15:15:48 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: mooo! Jun 21 15:16:00 unrelated: Nokia announced N9, with maemo-meego-chimera OS and without hw kbd Jun 21 15:16:57 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: yeah, looked sweet. Jun 21 15:17:03 http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/N9-00/ if you're interested Jun 21 15:17:07 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: amoled screen Jun 21 15:17:25 <[Rui]> DocScrutinizer: how free and working do you expect it to be? Jun 21 15:17:39 related: http://paste.ubuntu.com/630386/ Jun 21 15:17:43 <[Rui]> if one removes Nokia proprietary mumbo-jambo? Jun 21 15:17:59 [Rui]: no clue yet Jun 21 15:19:28 GNUtoo: well the fbdev is bit better. with the software compositing activated, the part rendred compositely is ok but not the reste, like with omapfb. (do you know a commande lien to take a screenshoot?) Jun 21 15:19:29 in my book it's crap: no hw kbd, no external storage slot (uSD...), obviously not even hostmode for USB Jun 21 15:19:32 <[Rui]> first impression: very simimlar to Samsung Galaxy S Jun 21 15:19:59 <[Rui]> maybe not hw per hw, but in high level specs Jun 21 15:20:11 <[Rui]> I can live well without a hw kbd Jun 21 15:20:45 that's why I posted it here Jun 21 15:20:56 hmmm Jun 21 15:21:08 let me think Jun 21 15:24:31 <[Rui]> urgh, so much qt development it sucks :) Jun 21 15:24:38 <[Rui]> (at least to me) :) Jun 21 15:25:00 <[Rui]> if it's possible to have it working relatively well, could be interesting Jun 21 15:25:10 <[Rui]> but I won't hold my breath Jun 21 15:37:33 GNUtoo: http://www.hiboox.com/go/pictures/animals/numpty-plus-compisiting1,547ef4ab8f12b7e54a81cf9a80f1f1c5.jpg.html Jun 21 15:38:03 ah ok ouch Jun 21 15:38:58 GNUtoo: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/numptypluscompisiting2.jpg/ Jun 21 15:39:44 ok Jun 21 15:39:49 seem like a refresh issue Jun 21 15:39:54 maybe look in the kernel config Jun 21 15:39:59 if there is some options for that Jun 21 15:40:06 like in graphics/dss Jun 21 15:40:10 or framebuffer Jun 21 15:42:02 GNUtoo: you saw that we can see the app rendered through the composit. plus the fact when I use gpe-scap then it capture and render it well but this time it is gpe(scape that is not ell rendered ? Jun 21 15:42:26 as if if does not display the good buffer.. Jun 21 15:42:36 I think it's more a refresh thing Jun 21 15:43:07 ok so how can I access to kernel conf ? Jun 21 15:43:18 shr chroot ? Jun 21 15:43:26 if you built it yes Jun 21 15:43:39 (as I still do"nt succed to use it..) Jun 21 15:44:12 personally I've issues with oe-core Jun 21 15:44:14 GNUtoo: well I think I set it up but then I can't figure out how to launch a build Jun 21 15:44:38 so I am happy to have keept my old build dir Jun 21 15:55:45 GNUtoo: what are we suppose to do to build when it is set up ? Jun 21 15:56:36 no idea Jun 21 15:57:42 I've to read the Makefile to be sure Jun 21 15:57:44 GNUtoo: :) shit Jun 21 15:57:52 I've another idea Jun 21 15:57:57 zcat /proc/config.gz Jun 21 15:57:59 look at that Jun 21 15:59:10 GNUtoo: oh I mean " do you know how to build when it is setup with the shr chroot?" . hm I have already reboot... wait a sec Jun 21 16:03:37 GNUtoo: http://pastebin.com/8JbVqHN0 Jun 21 16:04:05 pespin: hi . hey do you know how to start a build when it is set up with shr chroot ? Jun 21 16:07:36 GarthPS, everything is explained here: http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR Jun 21 16:07:59 pespin: well in fact If I ask it is because I did not find my way there :) Jun 21 16:08:34 GarthPS, sudo shr-chroot.sh; su - bitbake; make setup-shr-unstable; make update; . ./setup-env; bitbake shr-lite-image Jun 21 16:08:50 more a less that's what you need :) Jun 21 16:09:10 I tried but did not work. "root avaoiding and /or making nothing so ".. Plus I don't see what is a one shoot command and what are step to repproduce.. Jun 21 16:09:35 pespin: all of this EACH time ? Jun 21 16:09:38 nop Jun 21 16:09:50 that first time, as you need to configure everything Jun 21 16:09:55 you usually do: Jun 21 16:10:01 pespin: so what is the part you need to reproduce each time Jun 21 16:10:16 1) enter the chroot ---> sudo shr-chroot.sh Jun 21 16:10:29 2) change to bitbake user ---> su - bitbake Jun 21 16:10:49 3) Set build env: --> . ./setup-env Jun 21 16:10:59 4) bitbake whatever Jun 21 16:11:23 once bitbake is finished, you can use bitbake as much times as you want till you close the chroot session Jun 21 16:11:28 pespin: perfect thx you! but as currently OE is down .... Jun 21 16:11:45 pespin: yeah that part is ok then thx again Jun 21 16:11:59 np :) Jun 21 16:12:31 GNUtoo, hi, do you know if this phone is well supported already? http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_z-3421.php Jun 21 16:12:40 pespin: in fact I missed the fisrt bitbake shr-image as I though I was not need at this time . I prefered to finish to tweak things first Jun 21 16:12:48 pespin, it's not Jun 21 16:12:58 it's a qsd device and needs a lot of work Jun 21 16:13:15 GNUtoo, qsd = qualcomm? Jun 21 16:13:29 * GarthPS will reboot his phone without more needed lement from GNUtoo about fb Jun 21 16:14:03 pespin, yes Jun 21 16:14:09 I'll be back later for chat Jun 21 16:14:16 I'm fighting hard with Xorg Jun 21 16:14:21 I want 32bpp Jun 21 16:14:30 ok :) Jun 21 18:07:07 pespin, thanks to a friend that told me to modify the kernel instead of xorg.conf I've 24bit working Jun 21 18:07:43 GNUtoo, on which device? Jun 21 18:07:55 n900 Jun 21 18:08:16 s/ pespin / GarthPS / Jun 21 18:08:43 pespin, captainigloo and another person got the desire Jun 21 18:08:51 and they have nearly nothing working on it Jun 21 18:08:58 since no one upstreamed it yet Jun 21 18:09:09 upstreamed means in oe+fso Jun 21 18:10:11 GNUtoo, upstreaming something in OE right now is quite difficult because of the layer approach but still using OE dev. I'm having hard time myself trying to figure out where things should go... Jun 21 18:11:28 personally I didn't succeed yet at compiling oe-core Jun 21 18:13:58 I suppouse everything will be easier once oe-core + meta-smartphone is done and we drop old oe, but till then everytyhing is a mess Jun 21 18:24:08 * pespin writing News entry in blog Jun 21 18:24:21 GNUtoo, what does this mean exactly? "HTC Dream's DPI was added (By GNUtoo)" Jun 21 18:24:28 where was it added? Jun 21 18:24:36 xorg? illume? Jun 21 18:25:01 pespin, in oe Jun 21 18:25:04 here: Jun 21 18:25:36 /etc/X11/xserver-common Jun 21 18:25:54 ok, so xorg :) Jun 21 18:27:47 mrmoku|italy, hey there :) how's italy? (apart from hot on summer :P) Jun 21 18:34:20 GNUtoo, is there something you wanna add to the news wiki before I send the blog entry? Jun 21 18:34:27 s/send/publish/ Jun 21 18:34:28 pespin meant: GNUtoo, is there something you wanna add to the news wiki before I publish the blog entry? Jun 21 18:38:11 GNUtoo: So this is what made you thing about kernel config about my black rendered issue ? Jun 21 18:38:46 pespin, not yet Jun 21 18:39:01 maybe what I did will go in the next news Jun 21 18:39:03 I must go Jun 21 18:39:18 GarthPS, I think it's refresh as I said Jun 21 18:39:20 I must go Jun 21 18:39:22 bbl Jun 21 18:41:08 pespin: ther is a wiki page for news ? Jun 21 18:46:21 GarthPS, yes, it's the one I use to write blog entries. Everyone is welcome to write new features or improvements there so compiling information is easier when I write something for the blog :) Jun 21 18:46:30 GarthPS, http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/News Jun 21 18:46:59 pespin: ok so I will put some thing :) Jun 21 18:47:41 pespin: where can i found it entry on the tracker ? Jun 21 18:48:06 pespin: nevermind me Jun 21 18:48:10 GarthPS, sorry can you rephrase? Jun 21 18:48:22 ah ok :) Jun 21 18:49:03 entry published! :) http://blog.shr-project.org/2011/06/shr-summer.html Jun 21 18:49:36 pespin: which party did youcompile int a blog ? Jun 21 18:49:51 GarthPS, if you add something to wiki, please, add a new "Since 2011/6/21" Jun 21 18:50:26 pespin: it means that you did a blog on 2011/06/15 ? Jun 21 18:50:56 GarthPS, initially that was the idea, but as I didn't have time to write, people adding things there started adding new Since headers :P Jun 21 18:50:56 well infact what I want to had is done since a will Jun 21 18:51:09 pespin: ok Jun 21 18:51:39 GarthPS, I use the "Since headers" to know what's new and I need to write into the blog Jun 21 18:51:51 heyho Jun 21 18:51:55 s/will/while Jun 21 18:51:56 usually the Since means to me "Since X day, this has been added" Jun 21 18:52:06 hi morphis :) Jun 21 18:52:19 GarthPS: GPRS is still working fine? Jun 21 18:52:34 pespin: ok Jun 21 18:53:11 morphis: hmm I did not build an entire image because of OE unreachable Jun 21 18:53:22 ah ok Jun 21 18:53:29 is it still not reachable? Jun 21 18:54:00 morphis: yep Jun 21 18:54:05 hm Jun 21 18:54:11 AN Oy ing! Jun 21 18:54:19 :) Jun 21 18:54:31 but as I said you don't need the connection to OE to build an image Jun 21 18:54:35 I can build fine here :) Jun 21 18:57:47 morphis: not me. updated at a wrong moment and then oe down so me fucked Jun 21 18:57:48 * pespin just added blog link to main shr wiki page Jun 21 18:58:07 why don't you use on of the mirrors? Jun 21 18:58:09 GarthPS: so your git tree is broken? Jun 21 18:58:13 github or the other one Jun 21 18:58:21 or the one as fso.git Jun 21 19:05:40 angelox|n900: you have now a n900? Jun 21 19:06:03 hi morphis. yep :) Jun 21 19:06:37 angelox|n900: nice Jun 21 19:07:30 morphis : yes. i liked the phone Jun 21 19:08:52 my internet is weak now,so i can disconnect anytime Jun 21 19:13:52 ok Jun 21 19:22:26 btw, i could not install uboot on it...will try kexecboot when i arrive home Jun 21 19:28:46 GNUtoo: heyho Jun 21 19:29:01 hi Jun 21 19:29:20 GNUtoo: I will buy a hp veer this or next month Jun 21 19:29:28 morphis, GarthPS got software compositing on the pre-2 and I got it on n900 Jun 21 19:29:38 GNUtoo: yes I saw the video Jun 21 19:29:42 it's very nice Jun 21 19:29:46 I love it :) Jun 21 19:29:49 it's soo fast on the pre-2 Jun 21 19:29:58 cause of the 1ghz Jun 21 19:30:01 and it's a bit slow on the n900 Jun 21 19:30:02 yes Jun 21 19:30:28 btw. you are more familar with msm chips, how is 3d done there? Jun 21 19:30:38 impossible to get Jun 21 19:30:44 because it's for android Jun 21 19:31:01 android uses bionic Jun 21 19:31:08 which kind of chip they are using? Jun 21 19:31:16 adredano for instance Jun 21 19:31:17 no powervr I think Jun 21 19:31:21 it depends Jun 21 19:31:30 on qualcomm chips, no powervr Jun 21 19:31:34 things like adredano Jun 21 19:31:44 ok Jun 21 19:31:48 I didn't really look into it since it's non-free Jun 21 19:32:08 ok Jun 21 19:32:21 the hp veer is msm 7k30? Jun 21 19:32:42 isn't that a bit old? Jun 21 19:33:53 for the veer I have: http://pastie.org/2102909 Jun 21 19:34:17 don't know Jun 21 19:34:38 a MSM 7230 Jun 21 19:35:10 "... 800 MHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM 7230 chipset" Jun 21 19:35:36 but I want support the new modem protocol variant as fast as possible Jun 21 19:35:44 and the veer is the best possibility for that Jun 21 19:35:51 and we can't wait until the pre 3 ist out Jun 21 19:35:58 ok Jun 21 19:36:25 and webOS has better ways to get the protocol Jun 21 19:36:34 indeed Jun 21 19:36:47 I will write a blog post about all this and ask for some funds if somebody wants to give something Jun 21 19:37:03 how much is a veer? Jun 21 19:39:38 evening. Jun 21 19:39:52 GarthPS: nice video, looks all snappy Jun 21 19:40:05 mickey|daddy, less snappy on the n900 Jun 21 19:40:19 mickey|daddy: heyho! Jun 21 19:40:25 hi Jun 21 19:40:46 somebody knows when devtmpfs joined the linux kernel? Jun 21 19:40:50 was it 2.6.30? Jun 21 19:41:34 .32 iric Jun 21 19:41:35 iirc Jun 21 19:42:41 ok Jun 21 19:42:41 or maybe 31 Jun 21 19:42:43 not sure Jun 21 19:42:50 maybe kernelnewbies knows Jun 21 19:42:54 mickey|daddy: palm released the sources for the new webos version yesterday Jun 21 19:43:01 (and they ping'ed me about that :) Jun 21 19:43:19 GNUtoo, mickey|daddy: thanks will look at kernelnewbies Jun 21 19:43:31 morphis: ok, good. amazing that they contacted you proactively Jun 21 19:43:33 mickey|daddy: kernel for the hp veer is pretty std. source from codeaurora Jun 21 19:43:51 mickey|daddy: maybe because I asked so often for the release of the patches Jun 21 19:44:10 http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_32 Jun 21 19:44:12 so 32 Jun 21 19:44:15 ok Jun 21 19:44:27 http://git.kernel.org/linus/2b2af54a5bb6f7e80ccf78f20084b93c398c3a8b Jun 21 19:44:30 (the commit) Jun 21 19:44:35 yeah! Jun 21 19:44:40 the commit I know very good Jun 21 19:44:58 I cherry-pick'ed many times Jun 21 19:45:03 ok Jun 21 19:45:06 for porting devtmpfs to 2.6.24 :) Jun 21 19:45:37 do they still stick with .24? Jun 21 19:45:47 29 Jun 21 19:45:50 with the veer Jun 21 19:46:05 but you won't like it Jun 21 19:46:10 it's msm7x30 Jun 21 19:46:34 mickey|daddy: for the hp veer not Jun 21 19:46:39 mickey|daddy: it's 2.6.29 Jun 21 19:46:43 hmm Jun 21 19:46:46 msm, uh oh Jun 21 19:46:49 and pretty std. so we can port it very easily to a newer version Jun 21 19:47:00 lol Jun 21 19:47:07 but it looks bettern than on other msm devices Jun 21 19:47:14 ah ok Jun 21 19:47:27 as far as I can say Jun 21 19:47:32 what is the detailed hardware? Jun 21 19:47:34 I looked at the rootfs Jun 21 19:47:55 you mean the other hardware components than processor? Jun 21 19:48:19 yes Jun 21 19:48:21 like wifi card Jun 21 19:49:54 hi leviathan Jun 21 19:50:35 mom Jun 21 19:50:52 ? Jun 21 19:53:13 wait a moment Jun 21 19:54:05 wifi card is a bcm4319 Jun 21 19:54:22 is there a driver for that Jun 21 19:54:26 a floss driver Jun 21 19:54:37 I know Jun 21 19:54:53 then there is another arm cpu in the device Jun 21 19:54:59 which they use for the touch-to-share stuff Jun 21 19:55:05 called a6 Jun 21 19:55:11 strange Jun 21 19:55:17 but the webos-internals guys broke the device by plaing with it Jun 21 19:55:25 ? Jun 21 19:55:30 where are the details? Jun 21 19:55:41 there is a binary PmA6Updater in the rootfs Jun 21 19:55:52 rwhitby played with it and broke his device Jun 21 19:55:57 more details I don't know Jun 21 19:55:58 ouch Jun 21 19:56:00 totally? Jun 21 19:56:07 yes Jun 21 19:57:28 GNUtoo: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Veer_Disassembly Jun 21 19:58:18 "Then it was used for further hard-core command-line investigation into the new "tap to share" interface (which seems to be controlled by an "A6" chip). That's when things went wrong, and the device was permanently bricked. To prevent this happening to you, stay away from the PmA6Updater binary. " Jun 21 19:58:48 ok Jun 21 20:00:53 the problem with bcm4319 would be that we have a driver, but I don't think it's for sdio or such things Jun 21 20:03:09 GNUtoo: http://pastie.org/2103018 Jun 21 20:03:28 license: GPL v2 Jun 21 20:03:28 nice Jun 21 20:03:31 how do i bump kernel PR? Jun 21 20:03:39 Heinervdm, which machine? Jun 21 20:03:48 omap4430-panda Jun 21 20:04:05 look in your machine config Jun 21 20:04:12 GNUtoo: it recommends it's GPL Jun 21 20:04:15 hmm, good idea Jun 21 20:04:49 Heinervdm, some machine have the kernel PR there Jun 21 20:04:53 like the omap one Jun 21 20:04:56 *ones Jun 21 20:05:27 yes, it's in a .inc file. Jun 21 20:05:29 thx Jun 21 20:05:45 np Jun 21 20:07:29 hmmm Jun 21 20:07:37 but no trace of it in the sources Jun 21 20:07:48 morphis: btw., i saw the tablet in action last week Jun 21 20:07:57 apart the activator named libra_sdioif.c Jun 21 20:08:15 build quality is ok, it's snappy and nice. did run a beta OS, but felt good Jun 21 20:12:38 mickey|daddy, btw I worked on booting recently Jun 21 20:12:44 for the n900 Jun 21 20:12:49 I must push it tough Jun 21 20:13:38 did you find out where the minutes have been spent? Jun 21 20:14:09 no Jun 21 20:14:33 mickey|daddy: you saw it in reality? Jun 21 20:14:38 yes Jun 21 20:14:46 one of our clients has one Jun 21 20:14:50 http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Devices/NokiaN900/Booting Jun 21 20:14:56 oh great Jun 21 20:15:46 mickey|daddy, do you have time to work on something? Jun 21 20:16:32 we still have huge work to do with the n900, and JaMa and mrmoku|italy are gone for a long period Jun 21 20:16:50 basically we need: Jun 21 20:16:51 GNUtoo: right now almost zero. the little one has problems with gastrointestinal tract. i slept 4 hours this and last night Jun 21 20:16:59 ouch Jun 21 20:17:10 i'm sure it's going to be better soon, but right now i'm at negative energy level :/ Jun 21 20:17:18 ok Jun 21 20:17:31 what's the status on the n900 audio front? Jun 21 20:17:39 I worked on booting Jun 21 20:17:41 for you Jun 21 20:17:58 angelox got an n900 btw Jun 21 20:18:04 ah, cool Jun 21 20:18:19 so the plan is to use kexec and not u-boot? Jun 21 20:18:27 to overcome the limitations of the size? Jun 21 20:19:39 it's to let the user choose Jun 21 20:20:08 that's why I started this huge page Jun 21 20:22:12 3g doesn't work for you? Jun 21 20:22:26 yes indeed Jun 21 20:22:35 it gives error 255 Jun 21 20:22:40 255 == 0xff Jun 21 20:22:41 hmm, do you know whether you have CHAP or PAP auth? Jun 21 20:22:51 I used fso Jun 21 20:22:58 mdbus2 or shr-settings Jun 21 20:23:06 sure, but the protocol your provider uses Jun 21 20:23:15 ah no idea Jun 21 20:23:18 I've only Jun 21 20:23:24 usernames,passwords,apn Jun 21 20:23:32 it's wind italy Jun 21 20:23:38 ok, so we should have a look at the auth configuration Jun 21 20:23:50 where should I get that? Jun 21 20:23:52 perhaps we need to set an additional flag to allow chap or so Jun 21 20:23:58 the password are empty Jun 21 20:23:59 we have to check the protocol bits Jun 21 20:24:04 ok Jun 21 20:24:11 something to add to the huge todo Jun 21 20:24:19 indeed Jun 21 20:24:23 thanks Jun 21 20:24:34 I want to push kexecboot Jun 21 20:24:36 but I can't Jun 21 20:24:43 I've to backport a patch Jun 21 20:24:47 or to put it in Jun 21 20:24:52 I didn't understand well Jun 21 20:24:57 but oe has issues Jun 21 20:25:03 melo is down Jun 21 20:25:09 ya, heard about that :/ Jun 21 20:25:22 i hope not for long... there are a couple of #oe folks who have been using kexecboot for quite a while. can't they help? Jun 21 20:25:28 ah it's up Jun 21 20:25:37 yes they gave pointers Jun 21 20:25:40 but I'm blind Jun 21 20:25:45 the only thing that I can do Jun 21 20:25:52 is to limit the number of drivers Jun 21 20:26:01 on the target kernel Jun 21 20:26:12 I need a serial console Jun 21 20:26:20 but the voltage is pretty low Jun 21 20:26:29 it's less than 3.3v Jun 21 20:27:49 hmm, where are the hardware experts if we need 'em Jun 21 20:28:29 I could look Jun 21 20:28:42 but I've to push the oe support for it first Jun 21 20:29:23 GNUtoo: you know where the driver for the bcm4319 is? Jun 21 20:30:17 bcm43xx Jun 21 20:30:22 I got the site but lost it Jun 21 20:30:24 or maybe on android git Jun 21 20:30:52 http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg55433.html Jun 21 20:31:41 which one? bcma brcm80211 or bcm43xx or b43 or b4329? Jun 21 20:31:57 there are too much broadcom drivers!!! I'm lost!!! Jun 21 20:32:19 s/b4329/bcm4329 Jun 21 20:32:38 ah that Jun 21 20:32:43 bcm4329 Jun 21 20:33:11 :) Jun 21 20:33:42 http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/broadcom/wlan.git;a=summary Jun 21 20:35:01 http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=summary ? Jun 21 20:36:36 confusing this android repos Jun 21 20:38:20 mickey|daddy, I'm blocked with oe, oe-core doesn't compile for me and normal oe needs that patch: Jun 21 20:38:24 http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/5077/ Jun 21 20:38:36 altough LSMA_COMPRESSION_LEVEL = "-9" Jun 21 20:38:39 would work Jun 21 20:38:41 *LZMA Jun 21 20:39:08 so I am off for today Jun 21 20:39:09 gn8 Jun 21 20:57:47 ok I mostly get what to do Jun 21 20:57:52 hi angelox Jun 21 20:58:16 mickey|daddy, who has access to SHR beside mrmoku|italy and JaMa ? Jun 21 20:58:19 GNUtoo: Hi Jun 21 20:58:47 GNUtoo: which type of access do you mean? Jun 21 20:58:53 for building Jun 21 20:59:10 because once I push the kexecboot stuff on oe I'd like it to be built Jun 21 20:59:11 i've access too Jun 21 20:59:18 ok nice Jun 21 21:00:03 Heinervdm, you're doing a comeback? Jun 21 21:00:14 you were involved in SHR? Jun 21 21:00:22 I guess yes Jun 21 21:00:35 what newer device do you have? Jun 21 21:00:47 i've done the shr-testing2011 Jun 21 21:00:52 ah right Jun 21 21:00:56 hi mrmoku|i` Jun 21 21:01:01 i just have gta02 and a pre Jun 21 21:01:05 ok Jun 21 21:01:19 the pre needs some work Jun 21 21:01:22 for instance on wifi Jun 21 21:01:42 i know, but i don't have so much time at the moment Jun 21 21:01:47 ah ok Jun 21 21:02:25 the touchscreen could need some more work too Jun 21 21:02:30 ok Jun 21 21:03:26 when do you want to commit? Jun 21 21:03:36 tomorrow for instance Jun 21 21:03:50 ah ok, then i don't have to stay awake :) Jun 21 21:03:54 it's not that urgent Jun 21 21:03:58 no, no need Jun 21 21:04:17 but I don't want to wait like 1 month to get my changes into the feeds Jun 21 21:04:28 since angelox|laptop would need theses changes Jun 21 21:04:47 just ping me, i can do this from work too Jun 21 21:04:53 ok nice Jun 21 21:04:55 thanks a lot Jun 21 21:05:26 yes,i say thanks too Jun 21 21:35:13 mickey|daddy: :) yeah it is pitty that this image has layout issue Jun 21 21:37:38 seeing the vid of SHR on pre 2 is making it hard for me to stick with gta02 until gta04 is available in the US Jun 21 21:48:28 GNUtoo, GarthPS where are those videos about compositing you were talking about? Jun 21 21:50:32 http://pare.sylvain.perso.sfr.fr/video/ppp+sw%20compositiong.ogg Jun 21 21:51:17 thanks :) Jun 21 21:51:54 GNUtoo, btw, it seems the hp verr morphis was speaking about before uses the same qualcomm chip than the htc desire z, the mobile I told you about this afternoon Jun 21 21:52:05 is he going to work on it? Jun 21 21:52:12 not the same chip Jun 21 21:52:23 veer is msm7x30 Jun 21 21:52:30 desire z is msm8xxx Jun 21 21:52:52 GNUtoo, gsmarena doesn't say so Jun 21 21:52:54 "800 MHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM 7230 chipset" Jun 21 21:53:00 http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_z-3421.php Jun 21 21:53:09 ah? Jun 21 21:53:10 I think you are thinking on htc desire HD Jun 21 21:53:13 are you sure? Jun 21 21:53:42 GNUtoo, you are thinking on htc Desire S, not Z Jun 21 21:53:43 according to gsmarena it seem the same chip Jun 21 21:53:49 ok Jun 21 21:53:53 http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_s-3776.php Jun 21 21:54:12 yes indeed Jun 21 21:54:24 btw, the video link is nowt working u.u Jun 21 21:54:40 replace %20 by a space Jun 21 21:55:08 GNUtoo, thas was done automatically by firefox and doesn't work hehe Jun 21 21:55:19 it says: Cette page est introuvable Jun 21 21:55:42 ok Jun 21 21:55:55 well, good news that morphis is working on that device, as I might be interested in it in the future ;) Jun 21 21:56:00 yes Jun 21 21:56:09 jeepingben: pespin GNUtoo: by the way I did not plan to make some add with this actual video.. It will not last. i will do a better one later Jun 21 21:56:13 but the modem firmware may be different Jun 21 21:56:29 pespin: http://pare.sylvain.perso.sfr.fr/video/ then click the video Jun 21 21:57:11 then get out your wallet Jun 21 21:57:17 GNUtoo, is the modem hw usually inside the same qualcomm chip? Jun 21 21:57:18 * jeepingben wants a faster phone now Jun 21 21:57:37 thanks hehe Jun 21 21:57:38 yes Jun 21 21:57:43 but its firmware can change Jun 21 21:57:52 for instance on some modem you get AT Jun 21 21:57:55 on some you don't Jun 21 21:58:03 on some the audio is a particular interface Jun 21 21:58:09 on some other it's different Jun 21 21:58:15 and the firmware is wrote in ROM in the chip?¿ Jun 21 21:58:19 or can be changed easily? Jun 21 21:58:29 it's proprietary so no Jun 21 21:58:30 but Jun 21 21:58:44 I guess the desire z is android Jun 21 21:58:45 right? Jun 21 21:58:47 yes Jun 21 21:59:00 according to what I saw on the veer sources Jun 21 21:59:04 it may be similar enough Jun 21 21:59:08 GNUtoo: did the phone arrive? Jun 21 21:59:11 on the audio Jun 21 21:59:13 leviathan, not yet Jun 21 21:59:17 damnit Jun 21 21:59:27 leviathan, hi there :) Jun 21 21:59:30 perhaps it went lost -.- Jun 21 21:59:34 leviathan, ouch Jun 21 21:59:37 where? Jun 21 21:59:39 in italy? Jun 21 21:59:41 good thing I made a tracking number Jun 21 21:59:43 yes Jun 21 21:59:49 or stolen maybe Jun 21 21:59:52 well Jun 21 21:59:54 that would be the worse thing Jun 21 22:00:00 GNUtoo, with "it's propietary so no" you mean that it's not in ROM? or is not easily changeable? Jun 21 22:00:02 that's why I made the tracking number :-) Jun 21 22:00:14 I'll go and check tomorrow Jun 21 22:00:16 btw Jun 21 22:00:19 ok Jun 21 22:00:20 the nozzle now works Jun 21 22:00:25 for the RepRap Jun 21 22:00:25 what's that? Jun 21 22:00:41 I'll hopefully be able to print stuff this week Jun 21 22:00:42 :-D Jun 21 22:00:55 pespin, basically all the modem firmwares are usually proprietary Jun 21 22:01:04 osmcombb plan to change that tough Jun 21 22:01:14 but they work only on freerunner and old phones Jun 21 22:01:32 GNUtoo, yeah but I could for example get palm veer vbinary and use it in the htc desire z? Jun 21 22:01:41 I don't think so Jun 21 22:01:48 if the hw is the same Jun 21 22:01:55 no idea Jun 21 22:02:05 the bootloader has to matches etc.... Jun 21 22:05:17 ok Jun 21 22:05:38 and maybe some stuff would be different Jun 21 22:05:56 so you'll have to adapt all that proprietary stuff like they do on xda Jun 21 22:14:14 anyone have thoughts on the accelerometer crash on gta02 in 2.6.37? It works in 2.6.39 with a 1 line change. Jun 21 22:14:38 tried the same change in 2.6.37, but it doesn't compile Jun 21 22:31:15 n900 for $263, very tempting. How is SHR on n900 these days? Jun 21 22:47:19 jeepingben, 1 line change in kernel? Jun 21 22:47:39 set_irq_handler -> irq_set_handler Jun 21 22:48:08 the commit for accelerometer support in 2.6.39 said it was disabled pending genirq support Jun 21 22:48:31 the 1 line makes it compile and work, I assumed there was more work to be done for real genirq support Jun 21 22:49:31 lis302dl.c:713 Jun 21 22:56:09 jeepingben, you may want to talk with jluis or larsc about this, afaik they have more knowledge on this :) Jun 21 22:58:37 pespin: thanks, I think this is the last thing keeping me at 2.6.34 on my daily-use phone Jun 21 23:06:20 GarthPS, I have an old bug of you in emtooth2 bugtracker about not hearing anything on the bluetooth headset once "Audio connect" was done. Jun 21 23:07:11 GarthPS, would you mind building rev152 of emtooth2 and trying it another time please? I think your bug report was for emtooth1, and lots of things have changed in emtooth/bluez/SHR since then ;) Jun 21 23:14:52 GNUtoo-N900, it seems my bt kb autoconnects input when I connect it in my PC Jun 21 23:16:04 but it is disconnecting and connecting all the time, so it's quite unusable Jun 21 23:16:25 but afaik it's quite unusable with bluez-gnome **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 22 02:59:57 2011