**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 15 02:59:57 2011 Jul 15 05:35:03 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r4fb8d83bf4f9 10/aurora-components/components/SystemMenu.qml: aurora-components: add missing system menu component Jul 15 08:00:25 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rc7bd005c9b60 10/aurora-applications/app-phone/ (6 files): aurora-applications: more work on the phone application Jul 15 08:00:26 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r598074137c86 10/.gitignore: aurora: update gitignore file Jul 15 08:00:26 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r2a22037c002a 10/aurora-daemon/aurora/extensions/agents.py: aurora-daemon: use correct name for call activate method Jul 15 08:00:27 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r249bc008a28b 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): aurora-components: minor changes to the system menu Jul 15 08:00:28 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r8c11a65379d6 10/aurora-components/components/Button.qml: aurora-components: adjust the style of a button Jul 15 08:00:28 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r4723ad3fbfed 10/aurora-components/components/Dialpad.qml: aurora-components: dialpad: add a left/right/bottom margin for the buttons on the bottom Jul 15 09:35:48 Good day all , is there any was to forward sms in SHR ? Jul 15 09:39:37 alabd: on the messasges app select a sms and press options and chose (Answer,Call,Forward,delete) Jul 15 09:41:12 jluis_: mine just has answer and delete options Jul 15 09:44:58 anyway thanks any bye Jul 15 10:33:34 mrmoku: /dev/cmtspeech on "meego"-harmattan, and of course a module cmtspeech in lsmod Jul 15 10:34:42 RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# lsmod|grep cmt Jul 15 10:34:44 cmt_speech 10700 1 Jul 15 10:34:45 ssi_protocol 10470 1 cmt_speech Jul 15 10:34:47 cmt 1800 1 ssi_protocol Jul 15 10:34:49 DocScrutinizer: nice Jul 15 10:35:07 DocScrutinizer: that will make it easier :P Jul 15 10:35:24 ouch I hear the sarcasm tags Jul 15 10:35:29 :) Jul 15 10:36:03 hi, can iliwi connect to wep networks? Jul 15 10:36:05 well, I learnt kernel modules mustn't be closed Jul 15 10:36:24 so this has to be a foss implementation at least Jul 15 10:36:33 GNUtoo|laptop: I think so... WPA on n900 is the only problem I know of Jul 15 10:36:36 but then... never tried it Jul 15 10:36:50 ok Jul 15 10:36:54 I'll retry then Jul 15 10:40:19 hmmm Jul 15 10:40:29 ifconfig eht0 hw ether doesn't work on om-gta02 Jul 15 10:40:37 I wanted to get the mac address of my laptop Jul 15 10:40:42 that is already registered Jul 15 10:40:48 so I'll try to register the freerunner Jul 15 10:48:22 alias ssi:omap_ssi-p0.c1 cmt_speech Jul 15 10:48:23 /etc/modprobe.d/pulseaudio-module-meego-cmtspeech.conf Jul 15 10:48:49 p0.c1 sounds much like ALSA audiocard hw interfaces Jul 15 10:49:11 Play and Capture Jul 15 10:50:09 nevertheless I can't spot any cmtspeech.ko Jul 15 10:50:31 I wonder if it's compiled in to the kernel Jul 15 10:51:22 or is it possible to load kernel modules that are no kernel modules? :-O Jul 15 10:51:26 RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# find /lib/ /usr -name '*cmtspeech*' Jul 15 10:51:27 /lib/udev/rules.d/93-pulseaudio-module-meego-cmtspeech.rules Jul 15 10:51:29 /usr/lib/libcmtspeechdata.so.0 Jul 15 10:51:30 /usr/lib/libcmtspeechdata.so.0.1.0 Jul 15 10:51:32 /usr/lib/pulse-0.9.19/modules/module-meego-cmtspeech.so Jul 15 10:53:23 meh, forget it. It's nothing particularly new in there, same shit as on N900 Jul 15 10:53:46 IroN900:~# lsmod|grep cmt Jul 15 10:53:47 cmt_speech 8952 1 Jul 15 10:53:49 omap_ssi 18116 2 ssi_mcsaab_imp,cmt_speech Jul 15 10:55:22 so anybody with a clue, please tell me where from is cmt_speech in lsmod? Jul 15 13:44:19 Hi everyone Jul 15 14:57:23 mickeyl, hi Jul 15 14:57:43 pespin and me have a problem with bluetooth: Jul 15 14:57:59 bluetoothd doesn't start automatically when the phone doesn't have udev Jul 15 14:58:07 so how should I implement that? Jul 15 14:58:21 Is there some libfso functions for launching a binary? Jul 15 14:58:25 or should I do Jul 15 14:58:47 pid = Posix.System("bluetoothd &"); Jul 15 14:58:51 or something like that? Jul 15 15:03:55 i'd like to know that too,to use in Aurora,some function else posix.system and Process.spawn_command_line_sync Jul 15 15:04:16 maybe Process.spawn_***** can interest GNUtoo.. Jul 15 15:05:40 yes I know theses Jul 15 15:05:47 but I wonder if there are fso wrappers Jul 15 15:05:52 not to duplicate fso Jul 15 15:05:58 I'll do some video for replicant Jul 15 15:06:04 and then I'll look Jul 15 15:06:06 in code Jul 15 15:06:10 since nobody knows Jul 15 15:42:21 I don't find it in fso Jul 15 15:42:32 there is some stuff in fsoinitd Jul 15 15:42:34 but that's all Jul 15 15:42:39 I can find Jul 15 15:45:16 hi mrmoku Jul 15 15:49:01 hi GNUtoo|laptop Jul 15 15:50:14 GNUtoo|laptop: I think it was dos1 who did the n900_powercontrol plugin in fsodeviced Jul 15 15:50:38 ok Jul 15 15:50:42 yes Jul 15 15:50:50 Posix.system( "modprobe hci_h4p" ); Jul 15 15:50:52 I'll try with glib.process.spawn Jul 15 15:50:59 that is not sufficent for my needs Jul 15 15:51:03 not flexisble enough Jul 15 15:51:06 not sure if that is what we want though :P Jul 15 15:51:10 since I must be able to kill the process Jul 15 15:51:16 and similar stuff Jul 15 15:52:49 on the other hand libfsobasics/fsobasics/process.vala is probably not what you need Jul 15 15:53:07 ahhh it's there Jul 15 15:53:39 why it's not what I need? Jul 15 15:54:22 GProcessGuard Jul 15 15:54:38 you probably don't want to keep watching bluetoothd Jul 15 15:55:24 hmm... there is AsyncProcess too Jul 15 15:55:28 getting closer :-) Jul 15 15:56:01 ok Jul 15 15:56:14 pespin, hi Jul 15 15:57:02 GNUtoo|laptop: at least there you can see how to use spawn Jul 15 16:00:00 so what's the best way? Jul 15 16:00:03 using async? Jul 15 16:00:13 or I could use killall in Posix.system Jul 15 16:15:45 mrmoku, mickeyl I don't understand the bluetooth part of the gta02 fsodeviced powercontrol Jul 15 16:15:53 where is setPower for bluetooth? Jul 15 16:18:23 hi pespin Jul 15 16:18:27 did you ask mickeyl? Jul 15 16:23:32 pespin, maybe ask mickeyl to do the plugin Jul 15 16:23:49 or maybe I'll look furthurer Jul 15 16:23:55 I must do the replicant video now Jul 15 16:24:23 GNUtoo|laptop: Hi,i'm trying again Uboot on my phone,but now another way,using multiboot and uboot combined,it works booting MeeGo and Maemo,i'll try SHR right now,if i get it working,i'll fill up the wiki with that new way. Jul 15 16:24:34 because it's override bool getPower Jul 15 16:24:50 maybe the not-overridied function does the work Jul 15 16:24:53 I'll look Jul 15 16:25:10 ok Jul 15 16:25:27 angelox|laptop, are you ready to do some very small reverse engineering(scary word) Jul 15 16:25:29 ? Jul 15 16:25:38 because to implement multiboot Jul 15 16:25:53 you must be able to flash back a maemo kenrel from SHR Jul 15 16:26:06 so we'll have to figure the nolo format on flash Jul 15 16:26:24 I don't know if there is a checksum Jul 15 16:26:32 if there is we must find where it is Jul 15 16:26:35 and generate it Jul 15 16:26:52 but that new way do things another way completely different Jul 15 16:27:13 it uses Multiboot to boot between a standard-nokia-maemo kernel and a maemo kernel with uboot combined Jul 15 16:28:02 uboot itself can't boot maemo's default kernel,but maemo with multiboot combined,and maemo with multiboot combined can boot maemo itself Jul 15 16:28:04 FsoFramework.FileHandling.write( on ? onvalue : offvalue, powernode ); Jul 15 16:28:06 should work Jul 15 16:28:18 so I guess there is no override_append like in oe Jul 15 16:28:22 so I must override Jul 15 16:28:28 and add my stuff in Jul 15 16:29:15 angelox|laptop, yes but Jul 15 16:29:24 multiboot works the following way: Jul 15 16:29:31 the device boots under maemo Jul 15 16:29:44 you ask it to multiboot let's say nitdroid Jul 15 16:29:51 then it flashes nitdroid kenrel Jul 15 16:29:58 with a proprietary flasher on the device Jul 15 16:30:00 and reboots Jul 15 16:30:04 nitdroid then boots Jul 15 16:30:10 and then nitdroid does the same Jul 15 16:30:17 with a proprietary flasher app Jul 15 16:30:23 it will flash maemo's kenrel Jul 15 16:30:25 and reboot Jul 15 16:30:31 yes,unfortunately it flashes again and it reduce the NAND life Jul 15 16:30:32 DocScrutinizer, is it correct? Jul 15 16:30:48 s/NAND/NAND's/ Jul 15 16:30:48 angelox|laptop meant: yes,unfortunately it flashes again and it reduce the NAND's life Jul 15 16:30:51 that's what you told me last time Jul 15 16:31:00 how many lines backscroll shall I read? Jul 15 16:31:00 when we talked about that Jul 15 16:31:07 DocScrutinizer, I'll recap Jul 15 16:31:13 so no need to read backlog Jul 15 16:31:30 DocScrutinizer, we were talking about multiboot and I guessed it worked this way: Jul 15 16:31:59 maemo boots, you choose to boot nitdroid, then maemo flashes nitdoird kenrel with a proprietary flasher and reboots Jul 15 16:32:22 yes, that's how I understand it Jul 15 16:32:32 nitdroid boots, you choose to boot maemo, then nitdoird flashes maemo kenrel back with a proprietary flasher and reboots Jul 15 16:32:33 ok Jul 15 16:32:34 never installed that abomination though Jul 15 16:32:38 ok Jul 15 16:32:49 I did install it but I don't remember the usage Jul 15 16:32:52 GNUtoo|laptop: if were possible,instead flash,just boot the kernel,multiboot could be a good way to use... Jul 15 16:33:16 s/use/switch between distributions/ Jul 15 16:33:16 angelox|laptop meant: GNUtoo|laptop: if were possible,instead flash,just boot the kernel,multiboot could be a good way to switch between distributions... Jul 15 16:33:26 angelox|laptop, hmmm yes but no one replaced nolo yet Jul 15 16:33:40 but deducing from all the breakage users report when e.g updating their kernel, removing/uninstalling nitdroid, or whatnot else, it's pretty clear it has to work that way Jul 15 16:34:15 angelox|laptop, if someone replaced nolo you could boot a kernel from another partition, for instance the initrd partition Jul 15 16:34:19 and have 2 kernels flashed Jul 15 16:34:26 or boot it from whatever location Jul 15 16:34:39 hmm Jul 15 16:34:42 a non-chainloaded uboot isn't a replacement since it's too big Jul 15 16:34:52 but barebox(uboot v2) could replace it Jul 15 16:35:01 barebox...never heard.. Jul 15 16:35:02 however that is hard to do Jul 15 16:35:08 and require serial Jul 15 16:35:33 if I remember well the voltage is 2.8V Jul 15 16:35:41 which makes the thing even harder Jul 15 16:35:45 since 3.3v is risky Jul 15 16:35:54 there's a combined kernel+uBoot binary to flash to kernel partition, that will start uBoot to chainload either the appending kernel or any other kernel on e.g. uSD Jul 15 16:36:18 yes, that can work with the default kenrel Jul 15 16:37:14 alas this uBoot doesn't know how to boot from NAND, so you have no option to keep your kernels on NAND rootfs of maemo Jul 15 16:37:59 sorry,i need get out right now Jul 15 16:38:05 but i'll think in that... Jul 15 16:38:09 sorry. Jul 15 16:39:41 DocScrutinizer, we have kexecboot working....slowly Jul 15 16:39:52 1 min delay between kexec -e and kernel starting Jul 15 16:39:56 I suspect atags issues Jul 15 16:40:01 not bad, not bad Jul 15 16:40:16 anyway mameo kernel-power has atag issues too Jul 15 16:40:22 if you don't pass atags Jul 15 16:40:25 some stuff don't work Jul 15 16:40:31 I must look how to pass atags Jul 15 16:40:36 there is /proc/atags Jul 15 16:40:39 or something like that Jul 15 16:40:46 I must look on how to forward that Jul 15 16:40:50 like kexec --help Jul 15 16:41:01 but now I've to do replicant videos Jul 15 16:41:07 NFC, I just have a fuzzy idea what it is in a general view Jul 15 16:42:14 "atags are an alternative way to pass kernel cmdline arguments" is all I seem to know Jul 15 17:00:30 it's not (only) for arguments Jul 15 17:00:37 it's for passing informations Jul 15 17:00:47 s/arguments/command line arguments Jul 15 17:16:49 got a friend connection,but too bad,i can disconnect anytime,so sorry :) Jul 15 18:35:53 back Jul 15 20:02:54 mickeyl, ping Jul 15 20:02:55 ? Jul 15 21:02:29 "funny" comment/quote on TV: "Napoleon said that authoritarian governments have the privilege to stay silent. In the 1950's and 60's the US Gvmt spread lots of lies about UFOs, today they just stay silent about it" Jul 15 21:15:59 hi larsc Jul 15 21:16:12 I saw you worked on xf86-video-glamo too Jul 15 21:16:18 I've a suggestion Jul 15 21:16:52 you do something like that: Jul 15 21:16:57 echo "qvga-normal" > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state Jul 15 21:17:05 *there is Jul 15 21:17:22 echo "qvga" > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/resolution Jul 15 21:17:39 would rather be the thing to do with recent kernels Jul 15 21:17:54 I don't have commit access to that xf86-video-glamo repo **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 16 02:59:57 2011