**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 17 02:59:57 2011 Jul 17 08:11:18 marcellus1: a source/build tree should have rather good locality; so any optimised OS will do larger reads/writes rather than random access Jul 17 09:23:26 marcellus1, mrmoku hi Jul 17 09:30:02 ping dcordes_ Jul 17 09:30:55 hi morphis Jul 17 09:31:01 heyho Jul 17 09:31:15 marcellus1, has a geeksphone zero Jul 17 09:31:25 he started to do the port Jul 17 09:31:36 yeah Jul 17 09:31:38 you may be interested in his modem(or not) Jul 17 09:31:41 some notes about the modem? Jul 17 09:31:45 marcellus1: ping Jul 17 09:31:56 you should talk to him when he will respond Jul 17 09:31:59 GNUtoo|laptop: for sure I am interested Jul 17 09:32:01 ok Jul 17 09:32:08 whats with your geeksphone? Jul 17 09:32:12 I already pinged him and he may be sleeping or something like that or be busy Jul 17 09:32:20 abuot my geeksphone: Jul 17 09:32:31 * I failed at buying the battery in milan Jul 17 09:32:35 hi GNUtoo|laptop Jul 17 09:32:38 * I am neaar paris Jul 17 09:32:48 * I will retry when I'm near boardeaux Jul 17 09:33:02 mrmoku, did you see my commit? Jul 17 09:33:12 yup, but did not yet look at it Jul 17 09:33:16 ok Jul 17 09:33:20 roughly: Jul 17 09:33:37 I added the launching/killing to the rfkill plugin Jul 17 09:33:48 because that's what the openmoko uses Jul 17 09:33:58 I changed default and om-gta02 configs only Jul 17 09:34:15 so we'll have to update the other plugins and configs Jul 17 09:34:32 who has a working bluetooth? Jul 17 09:34:36 not n900 and dream Jul 17 09:34:49 n900 has a kernel with broken bluetooth Jul 17 09:34:51 palmpre neither Jul 17 09:35:00 btw. I looked at your commit Jul 17 09:35:01 and dream doesn't have support in fso Jul 17 09:35:05 when you do a logger.debug(...) Jul 17 09:35:12 wrap it into a assert(...) Jul 17 09:35:16 ok Jul 17 09:35:19 feel free to correct Jul 17 09:35:20 so you have assert( logger.debug(..)) Jul 17 09:35:27 just for the future :9 Jul 17 09:35:32 ah ok Jul 17 09:35:35 s/:9/:)/ Jul 17 09:35:36 morphis meant: just for the future :) Jul 17 09:35:56 what will the assert assert? Jul 17 09:37:15 <[Rui]> morphis: hey Jul 17 09:37:40 <[Rui]> morphis: want a Samsung Galaxy S modem dump? (and how can I best and quickly do it?) Jul 17 09:37:59 GNUtoo|laptop: with the assert we can disalbe all debug statements in a production release with one configure option Jul 17 09:38:03 [Rui]: hey Jul 17 09:38:08 [Rui]: yes, I want Jul 17 09:38:33 [Rui]: please can you take a look into /lib first and tell me which libs are there Jul 17 09:38:57 [Rui]: what I even need is a dump of the android rootfs Jul 17 09:40:48 <[Rui]> ls /lib http://pastebin.com/KnarrAGz Jul 17 09:42:58 [Rui]: can you search for a liboncrpc.so on the device? Jul 17 09:43:30 <[Rui]> doesn't exist, apparently. Jul 17 09:44:14 ok Jul 17 09:44:24 than it seems like they are using plain AT Jul 17 09:44:36 but a "find /" would be nice too Jul 17 09:47:00 <[Rui]> morphis: will send you right away. Jul 17 09:47:31 great Jul 17 09:48:07 ok nice Jul 17 09:48:22 <[Rui]> morphis: mailing Jul 17 09:51:55 /system/hw/libs or something like that Jul 17 09:54:26 [Rui], what's the phone already? Jul 17 09:54:32 galaxy S? Jul 17 09:56:07 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: Samsung Galaxy S. Jul 17 09:56:22 ok it's vibrant captive or something likethat? Jul 17 09:56:53 <[Rui]> I think it's the same as vibrant captive, model GT-I9000 or something. Jul 17 09:57:17 <[Rui]> it would be a very sweet phone if freeable. Jul 17 09:57:36 <[Rui]> but somehow I doubt some of its best hw features (like graphic card) would be freeable :| Jul 17 09:57:48 system/lib/libsamsung_ril.so Jul 17 09:58:01 ah no Jul 17 09:58:02 wait Jul 17 09:58:06 qcom here qcom there Jul 17 09:58:10 it's not the same Jul 17 09:58:40 I'll go Jul 17 09:58:50 <[Rui]> that doesn't exist, I sent a find / to morphis (can send it to you too if you want) and rild and libril Jul 17 09:59:03 ok Jul 17 09:59:34 <[Rui]> you want them? Jul 17 10:00:28 yes Jul 17 10:00:32 I'll take a look too Jul 17 10:01:07 <[Rui]> ok Jul 17 10:03:21 [Rui]: does the galaxy s has a qualcomm modem? Jul 17 10:04:19 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: sent. Jul 17 10:04:24 <[Rui]> morphis: I have no idea Jul 17 10:04:27 ok Jul 17 10:04:40 <[Rui]> my dmesg is already cleared with entries from iptables... Jul 17 10:04:47 it looks a lot like it is a AT based communication Jul 17 10:04:54 <[Rui]> I have something called droidwall, best defense against add ;) Jul 17 10:06:51 <[Rui]> morphis: this might be helpful: http://www.androidpt.info/images/f/fb/I9000_features.txt Jul 17 10:07:53 [Rui]: do we have the kernel sources? Jul 17 10:08:09 <[Rui]> this may be good too: http://www.androidpt.info/images/e/e3/I9000_lowlevel.txt Jul 17 10:08:33 <[Rui]> not sure. the guys from the rom I have installed seem to have new kernels, so possibly for most stuff with a binary blob or more Jul 17 10:08:42 <[Rui]> baby woke up Jul 17 10:09:14 bbl Jul 17 10:11:56 <[Rui]> I'll bbl too. see ya all Jul 17 10:12:03 <[Rui]> morphis: I'll try to know more about kernel sources. Jul 17 10:12:47 <[Rui]> morphis: but I'm quite limited on the tests I can do, as this is my job's phone I can't have it unavailable for long periods :| Jul 17 10:16:07 <[Rui]> it's such a "sweet" device that in order for people to buy version II of it, most stores don't provide comparisons between version II and version I :) Jul 17 10:16:57 <[Rui]> differences are: two cores, a bit more memory, more megapixels but, *really*, version I is already *very* powerful, and people would get it from the comparison table :) Jul 17 10:17:05 <[Rui]> now bbl, for good. Jul 17 10:24:11 [Rui]: ok Jul 17 11:27:41 hi mrmoku morphis Jul 17 11:27:52 mrmoku, what are you working on? audio routing? Jul 17 11:28:04 does that include bluetooth routing? Jul 17 11:28:18 because for now I use a hack Jul 17 11:28:42 a /home/root/.asoundrc that route to bluetooth Jul 17 11:29:17 GNUtoo|laptop: what's in the asoundrc? Jul 17 11:30:18 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:GNUtoo Jul 17 11:30:25 I already shown it to you Jul 17 11:30:27 last time Jul 17 11:30:51 maybe I'll try to help Jul 17 11:31:10 I need to find a free microsd Jul 17 11:31:18 since freerunner is my main phone now Jul 17 11:33:13 GNUtoo|laptop: audio routing needs some discussions Jul 17 11:33:30 ah ok Jul 17 11:33:40 I tought it was already done partially Jul 17 11:35:00 GNUtoo|laptop: bluetooth audio is only possible in this way? not way to set the alsamixer in some way to router audio to bluetooth? Jul 17 11:35:19 I've no idea Jul 17 11:35:35 I guess it should be possible with alsamixer Jul 17 11:35:41 but there was no scenario for it Jul 17 11:35:45 so I used this way Jul 17 11:35:53 the only scenario was gsmbluetooth Jul 17 11:36:00 and was for bluetooth in calls Jul 17 11:37:10 sigh Jul 17 11:37:20 why bluetoothd launching worked perfectly yesterday Jul 17 11:37:55 and now it's launched before requesting its resource Jul 17 11:40:00 hmmm Jul 17 11:40:41 eviceBasePowerControlResource : Could not register Bluetooth with ousaged: An object is already exp Jul 17 11:40:41 eviceBasePowerControlResource : enabling... Jul 17 11:40:41 el26RfKillPowerControl <2:Bluetooth:softon:hardon>: bluetoothd starting... Jul 17 11:43:54 was fsousaged restarted? Jul 17 11:44:03 maybe not Jul 17 11:44:05 I'll reboot Jul 17 11:44:31 basically there are 2 plugins that can take care of enabling bluetooth Jul 17 11:44:35 for om-gta02 Jul 17 11:44:44 the powercontrol openmoko Jul 17 11:44:49 this one takes cares of : Jul 17 11:44:51 *wifi Jul 17 11:44:53 *bluetooth Jul 17 11:44:55 *usb host Jul 17 11:45:07 however wifi and bluetooth are disabled by config in this plugin Jul 17 11:45:14 the real one is rfkill Jul 17 11:46:05 so *maybe* it's a conflict between the 2 plugins Jul 17 11:46:54 ah now after reboot it's fine Jul 17 11:47:04 I guess opkg update;opkg upgrade caused that mess Jul 17 11:50:13 maybe Jul 17 11:50:51 about the discussion Jul 17 11:51:04 what should you discuss and whith who? Jul 17 11:51:36 and who should I ask about bluetooth routing? Jul 17 11:51:44 bluetooth is very very important for me Jul 17 11:52:00 it's the only way I found to get clear audio out of the freerunner with headphones Jul 17 11:59:45 GNUtoo|laptop: about bluetooth in general in FSO it's handled with fsoaudiod Jul 17 11:59:51 with setting the correct device Jul 17 12:00:26 in the case of a alsa router (with enable/disabling the correct controls) bluetooth routing should be done this way Jul 17 12:00:32 which is the case for the om-gta02 Jul 17 12:02:13 yes I'll try to find a microsd and try what you told me to try Jul 17 12:02:23 *disabling fsodeviced Jul 17 12:02:32 's alsa routing Jul 17 12:02:34 yes Jul 17 12:02:40 GNUtoo|laptop: you looked at this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem#using_Bluetooth_headset_with_GSM Jul 17 12:02:41 *changing alsa.conf and enabling fsoaudiod Jul 17 12:02:57 especially this paragraph "Bluetooth headset with system audio" Jul 17 12:03:07 *swtiching libphone-ui[-shr] to fsoaudiod Jul 17 12:03:16 ok Jul 17 12:03:23 GNUtoo|laptop: discussion about who controls what... DocScrutinizer insists that all control must be in alsa... and something like having a (outside visible/settable) mode is not wanted... and he might well be right :-) Jul 17 12:03:30 can I somehow rerun the patch task on the kernel? Jul 17 12:03:31 NOTE none of this works with GTA02. Neo mode has disappeared, and none of the state files are GTA02 compatible. Jul 17 12:05:29 marcellus1, ping Jul 17 12:05:45 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Jul 17 12:05:54 mrmoku: yeah thats the optimal way Jul 17 12:06:08 but on most devices we have another way to control that Jul 17 12:06:10 let's follow DocScrutinizer Jul 17 12:06:17 see the palm pre Jul 17 12:06:23 see most msm devices Jul 17 12:06:24 ah? Jul 17 12:06:29 hi Jul 17 12:06:31 we can put all of that in a alsa plugin Jul 17 12:06:38 but is this the right place Jul 17 12:06:39 ? Jul 17 12:06:40 can both be compatible Jul 17 12:06:45 marcellus1, any news? Jul 17 12:06:58 marcellus1, could you pastebin your new defconfig? Jul 17 12:07:03 the one with g_ehter Jul 17 12:07:13 for example for the palm pre I need to load all audio scripts on startup into the kernel for audio works Jul 17 12:07:21 should this be done in a alsa plugin too? Jul 17 12:07:24 the compilation of the kernel failed with " drivers/usb/gadget/composite.c:117:3: error: implicit declaration of function 'msleep'" Jul 17 12:07:25 I don't think so Jul 17 12:07:32 on htcdream there are routing switches Jul 17 12:07:45 swtich to speaker,headset, headphones Jul 17 12:07:56 marcellus1, yes that's normal Jul 17 12:08:09 marcellus1, you need to re-read the end of the android porting guide Jul 17 12:08:17 let me find a link Jul 17 12:08:48 http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Android%20Porting%20Guide#usbnet Jul 17 12:08:50 .config http://paste.pocoo.org/show/440687/ but its the same as yesterday Jul 17 12:08:59 add usbnet in Jul 17 12:09:04 and make a patch to fix usbnet Jul 17 12:09:11 like the patch I did for the missing header Jul 17 12:09:50 darn, I manually patched delay.h into the kernel, but for that i had to read quite a bit of the code Jul 17 12:11:33 GNUtoo|laptop, mrmoku: I see alsa as the way to use audio but it should not contain all logic to setup the whole audio stuff, then we will have whenever a program starts to use one of the alsa audio device additional logic which needs to determine the current state and handles this Jul 17 12:12:36 in software design terms it's not the right place to include all the audio routing logic in the alsa layer, it's too much and to different from device to device Jul 17 12:13:00 if we would not have the big differences between all the devices, yes we can go that way but we have them Jul 17 12:13:26 basically if I understood well there are 2 approachs Jul 17 12:13:38 1) scenario based, you swithch scenario Jul 17 12:13:49 2)control based, more fine graned control Jul 17 12:14:18 marcellus1, what did you do exactly? only add theses includes in drivers/usb/gadget/composite.c: ? Jul 17 12:14:32 s/:// Jul 17 12:14:32 GNUtoo|laptop meant: marcellus1, what did you do exactly? only add theses includes in drivers/usb/gadget/composite.c ? Jul 17 12:14:55 only the delay one, than git format-patch and then add the patch to recipes/linux-... and add the patch to the config Jul 17 12:15:18 however I havend found any phase where the patch is applied Jul 17 12:15:49 morphis: we should find a way to do the optimal thing for every device individually then Jul 17 12:15:56 I tried running bb -c do_qa_configure linux-cm-zero to assure the new patch is applied, but the error remains Jul 17 12:15:59 via plugins Jul 17 12:16:28 so how it should look for the n900? Jul 17 12:16:53 marcellus1, do you want me to try Jul 17 12:17:16 wait a moment, I have something to finish first Jul 17 12:17:30 then apply the other include -> patch and so forth Jul 17 12:17:39 morphis, n900 has standard alsa for audio, a bit like freerunner, but for gsm it's different you decode audio from cmt_speech and play it back trough alsa Jul 17 12:18:05 morphis: my brain is full of daywork... have to relook to clean it :) Jul 17 12:18:20 ok Jul 17 12:18:29 we should collect all use cases and decide then Jul 17 12:18:40 and we should collect them on a wiki page in FSO wiki Jul 17 12:18:54 morphis: and we should involve DocScrutinizer51 in the discussion Jul 17 12:18:59 then we have a overview over the most use cases and can find similarities Jul 17 12:19:04 for sure Jul 17 12:19:13 he has very clear ideas about how it should work Jul 17 12:19:26 at least for n900 and gta Jul 17 12:20:16 ok Jul 17 12:20:26 morphis: (usecases) yup good idea Jul 17 12:21:20 I will create a page now Jul 17 12:25:27 morphis: hehe... you've been faster :P Jul 17 12:25:50 unfair though as I did it from n900 ;) Jul 17 12:26:03 and got an edit conflict Jul 17 12:26:13 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Implementations/fsoaudiod/RoutingUsecases Jul 17 12:26:22 :) Jul 17 12:26:33 could we link to devices Jul 17 12:26:41 because I've made a page on modems Jul 17 12:27:01 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Hardware#Support_and_Hardware_comparison Jul 17 12:27:39 yes Jul 17 12:30:25 morphis, also can I merge stuff in the news Jul 17 12:30:28 like for instance Jul 17 12:30:32 Since 2011/06/21 Jul 17 12:30:33 and Jul 17 12:30:39 Since 2011/07/2 Jul 17 12:30:46 because the since are not clear Jul 17 12:30:55 so I tought of adding a since last news Jul 17 12:30:58 you mean shr news? Jul 17 12:31:02 yes Jul 17 12:31:08 http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/News Jul 17 12:31:34 I need to reboot, wait a moment for me Jul 17 12:31:38 Basically since means from last time until now Jul 17 12:31:40 ok Jul 17 12:40:33 so Jul 17 12:49:21 <[Rui]> back Jul 17 12:53:37 GNUtoo|laptop: do_compile succeeded :) Jul 17 12:58:30 mkbootimg: command not found <= any clue? Jul 17 13:00:38 bitbake it Jul 17 13:00:50 GNUtoo|laptop: which recipe? Jul 17 13:00:52 or rather Jul 17 13:00:56 add it as a dependency Jul 17 13:00:59 let me look Jul 17 13:01:19 android-image-utils-native_git.bb Jul 17 13:01:20 bbl Jul 17 13:01:34 I guess it should be a dependency for every android phone Jul 17 13:03:06 hmm, it is I must have commentet it out at some point :/ Jul 17 13:14:39 GNUtoo|laptop: done :) Jul 17 13:22:10 has anyone of you done debugging of a phone over USB_ETH? Jul 17 13:36:38 nearly everyone did Jul 17 13:42:24 I just tried the host side configuration following http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/USBnet_Setup Jul 17 13:42:37 the kernel modules are in, however I have no eth0 network device Jul 17 13:47:08 err, usb0 network device Jul 17 13:47:50 marcellus1: most probably means your phone is not in cdc_ether or rndis mode. Jul 17 13:48:16 so what driver do I need? Jul 17 13:48:29 marcellus1: g_ether on the phone side. Jul 17 13:48:40 on the host side? Jul 17 13:48:43 I get http://paste.pocoo.org/show/440727/ Jul 17 13:48:50 marcellus1: on the host side cdc_ether module. Jul 17 13:49:43 marcellus1: damn, usb 1-4: device descriptor read/64, error -110 looks nasty. Jul 17 13:50:15 could it be the cable? Jul 17 13:50:32 mom, I'll check it out Jul 17 13:51:55 marcellus1: your dmesg says you plug your phone that should work in usb2.0 mode (high speed) but it fails, so it uses usb1.1 full speed instead. And then all you get is the device that says it's mass storage. Jul 17 13:52:41 marcellus1: so it means your phone has g_filestorage or similar usb gadget module loaded instead of g_ether. Jul 17 13:52:55 at the point which is marked with "<= supposely android setup" is where the phone boots up with android Jul 17 13:55:35 hmmmm timeouts Jul 17 13:55:49 JaMa, hi!!!! Jul 17 13:58:04 mah, menuconfig requires all tasks before :( Jul 17 13:59:12 GNUtoo|laptop: hi Jul 17 13:59:18 the config is back to android_gadget wtf? Jul 17 13:59:54 JaMa, some random things: Jul 17 14:00:02 *can we change to mplayer_svn Jul 17 14:00:09 because mplayer git is too slow Jul 17 14:00:16 on both om-gta02 and htcdream Jul 17 14:00:48 * I'm still on oe-dev I never succedded at switching to oe-core Jul 17 14:00:52 it always failed Jul 17 14:02:58 marcellus1, that's normal Jul 17 14:03:09 marcellus1, I told you to save the config each time Jul 17 14:03:14 better following that instead: Jul 17 14:03:20 bitbake -c patch foo-kernel Jul 17 14:03:28 go into workdir Jul 17 14:03:34 make ARCH=arm xconfig Jul 17 14:03:37 save it Jul 17 14:03:39 <[Rui]> JaMa: hey! hi, how're your vacations going? Jul 17 14:03:41 cp it back to oe Jul 17 14:03:45 I just ran menuconfig, took the config and copied it over the defconfig from the recipe Jul 17 14:04:01 and bitbake -c clean foo-kernel;bitbake foo-kernel Jul 17 14:04:10 ok Jul 17 14:04:41 JaMa, and I almost forget: welcome back, we missed you Jul 17 14:04:55 why clean? after the compilation finished bb cleaned the work directory Jul 17 14:05:16 and I have to compile evererything anew Jul 17 14:05:36 ah right, if you just did the configuration, no need to clean Jul 17 14:05:47 GNUtoo|laptop: sorry, I haven't even unpacked.. and need sleep now.. Jul 17 14:05:56 JaMa, np, so welcome back Jul 17 14:06:03 [Rui]: I've just arrived home... it was great :) Jul 17 14:06:26 <[Rui]> JaMa: oh, too bad it's already over, then :) Jul 17 14:06:27 when will you be back exactly? Jul 17 14:06:44 because on monday I will do some non-computer activities Jul 17 14:06:55 like collaborating with versailles's castle and wikipedia Jul 17 14:08:16 morphis, can I merge the 2 sections in the news, since has a meaning look it if you don't know what it means Jul 17 14:09:00 GNUtoo|laptop: why not, for me it's ok Jul 17 14:09:04 ok nice Jul 17 14:09:10 because it makes things more clean Jul 17 14:20:29 ping larsc Jul 17 14:27:31 darn http://paste.pocoo.org/show/440763/ Jul 17 14:28:23 change cable Jul 17 14:28:29 I did Jul 17 14:28:39 ah ok Jul 17 14:28:45 -110 is timeout Jul 17 14:28:46 I'll copy fastboot to my notebook and try it there Jul 17 14:28:55 wait a bit Jul 17 14:29:04 fastboot is for talking to the bootloader only Jul 17 14:29:27 yeah, but the micro image is on the sd card and I can copy the kernel image and fastboot over to my notebook Jul 17 14:29:29 adb is for talking to a running android and won't work on SHR unless you have adbd, I never needed it Jul 17 14:29:38 ok Jul 17 14:29:57 but I know dcordes_ knows how to get adbd on SHR Jul 17 14:30:21 compiling adb on x86_64 is nearly impossible Jul 17 14:30:38 ah ok Jul 17 14:31:00 it would be posssible if it had been converted to autotools Jul 17 14:31:09 but maybe I know someone how has a 64bit db Jul 17 14:31:12 *adb Jul 17 14:31:15 paulk in #replicant Jul 17 14:31:27 I can ask him Jul 17 14:31:34 if it worked etc... Jul 17 14:31:54 adb doesn't really help Jul 17 14:32:14 yes indeed it can only work in android Jul 17 14:32:16 I just need to get the usb network to run Jul 17 14:32:23 ok Jul 17 14:32:46 so try the laptop Jul 17 14:32:58 I've issues with my desktop's usb too Jul 17 14:37:14 <[Rui]> yeah, who needs adb when you can ssh into it :) Jul 17 14:37:24 yes but when you can't Jul 17 14:37:28 and don't have usbnet Jul 17 14:37:35 no usbnet -> adb Jul 17 14:37:41 usbnet but no ssh -> netcat Jul 17 14:37:47 usbnet and ssh -> ssh Jul 17 14:38:33 <[Rui]> I have a 64bit adb Jul 17 14:39:27 btw I've a big questions, what is the package that hold the certificates for firefox,midori etc... Jul 17 14:39:43 https doesn't seem to work well on midori Jul 17 14:44:01 <[Rui]> you need ca-certificates or something similar Jul 17 14:44:02 it's not relly surprising Jul 17 14:44:21 WebKit's API doesn't help Jul 17 14:44:26 ok Jul 17 14:44:39 I think I've already ca-certificates Jul 17 14:44:41 let me loook Jul 17 14:44:50 it's opkg installing scummvm currently Jul 17 14:44:55 I'll look on another device Jul 17 14:45:01 <[Rui]> GNUtoo|laptop: oh, then maybe you may be hitting on some bug (there are some) recognizing ssl sites. Jul 17 14:45:03 there are specific requirements, probably beyond just installing ca-certificates Jul 17 14:45:17 ah? Jul 17 14:45:22 what should I do? Jul 17 14:45:22 <[Rui]> eg: I can't reach my homebanking from the FreeRunner (well, I haven't tried recently, but I couldn't). Jul 17 14:45:24 afaik midori requires a certificate file Jul 17 14:45:34 with the collection of all trusted certificates Jul 17 14:45:41 it doesn't handle certificate directories Jul 17 14:45:45 <[Rui]> but other ssl sites worked fine Jul 17 14:45:47 so what should I do? Jul 17 14:45:59 I tried geeksphoneone shop and it failed Jul 17 14:46:03 on n900 Jul 17 14:46:07 create something like /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt Jul 17 14:46:10 <[Rui]> if that's the case, you can always cat *.crt > all_certs.crt and point midori into it Jul 17 14:46:14 with all the trusted certificates inside Jul 17 14:46:20 exactly Jul 17 14:46:29 ok thanks a lot!!!! Jul 17 14:46:38 I just don't remember where midori exactly looks by default Jul 17 14:46:46 ok I'll look Jul 17 14:46:56 in my code I do: Jul 17 14:47:07 #if WEBKIT_CHECK_VERSION(1, 1, 0) Jul 17 14:47:09 session = webkit_get_default_session(); Jul 17 14:47:12 for(i = 0; i < sizeof(cacerts) / sizeof(*cacerts); i++) Jul 17 14:47:14 if(access(cacerts[i], R_OK) == 0) Jul 17 14:47:17 { Jul 17 14:47:19 g_object_set(session, "ssl-ca-file", cacerts[i], Jul 17 14:47:22 "ssl-strict", FALSE, NULL); Jul 17 14:47:36 with cacerts a char ** with the list of files I check Jul 17 14:47:49 ok Jul 17 14:48:02 I got inspiration from midori, but don't remember how much I diverged Jul 17 14:48:36 what browser did you do? Jul 17 14:48:44 DeforaOS Surfer Jul 17 14:48:46 ok Jul 17 14:48:54 I guess it's not in oe Jul 17 14:48:58 http://www.defora.org/os/project/340/Surfer Jul 17 14:49:08 I made a special maemo repository for it Jul 17 14:49:33 http://people.defora.org/~khorben/place/blog/123/hackable-1-builds-and-provides-a-package-repository-for-Maemo Jul 17 14:49:45 I've SHR on the n900 Jul 17 14:50:08 http://build.hackable1.org/debian/dists/wip-maemo/main/binary-armel/ Jul 17 14:50:10 ok Jul 17 14:50:24 unfortunately apparently surfer didn't build for maemo Jul 17 14:50:29 ok Jul 17 14:50:29 probably lacking webkit Jul 17 14:50:34 (for Gtk+) Jul 17 14:50:40 ok Jul 17 14:50:45 is it better than midori? Jul 17 14:50:53 it's simpler Jul 17 14:50:57 ok Jul 17 14:51:02 probably not as usable Jul 17 14:51:06 finger friendly? Jul 17 14:51:07 but certainly lighter Jul 17 14:51:12 not specially no Jul 17 14:51:19 ok Jul 17 14:51:23 for icons and stuff yes Jul 17 14:51:28 for browsing itself no Jul 17 14:52:57 I'm currently porting hackable:1 to the n900 btw Jul 17 14:53:02 wow nice Jul 17 14:53:08 a real debian :) Jul 17 14:53:12 what framework will you use? Jul 17 14:53:13 fso? Jul 17 14:53:15 DeforaOS Jul 17 14:53:16 ofono? Jul 17 14:53:22 ah ok Jul 17 14:53:28 so nothing under it Jul 17 14:53:38 I have no phonet support yet Jul 17 14:53:42 ok Jul 17 14:54:02 maybe you could use fso under defora OS Jul 17 14:54:09 yes I was about to mention it Jul 17 14:54:14 it's possible Jul 17 14:54:15 radek is already using fso with qtmoko Jul 17 14:54:21